I agree with with your comment about them being more "visceral" sounding. I recently upgraded from the Ananda OG, and tracks felt so much more... alive. Vocals sound so natural and real.😊
Have you heard Arya Stealth? I'm trying to decide between Stealth vs Organic. Considering the price difference the stealth looks really appealing to me at $400 less than Organic
Great review! How do you think it compares with he1000 V2? I own the he1000 v2 stealth and Arya stealth and the described differences between Arya stealth and Arya organic by you and other reviewers seem like the organic is similar to the he1000
The only HE1000 I tried is the HE1000SE, which are still better, but not by much vs Arya Organic. HEKSE are a bit hotter sounding up top and are slightly more technical (clearer & faster) VS the Organic.
@@Soundnews you helped me purchase the HE1000SE, with your review. With some tuning I got the HE1000SE to slam very nicely and got rid of the annoying quality of too much air, out of the box. I have to be honest, to my ear, out of the box they sounded incredibly thin (although clear and fast) I added a 6 dB bass shelf to them, with a very similar type of comedown between 100 and 200 Hz, as the graph shows for the Organic. I got rid of the air and hotness of the treble, by lowering the 5.9K - 8K area, targeting around 6.5K with a shallow Q, down by 2 - 3 dB (done with 2 filters in that area, using the RME ADI 2 Pro FS) I raised around 200 Hz - 1000 kHz by 1 - 0.5 dB with a ultra wide Q. They sound very dynamic now, are still clear overall and are Thumpy, close to the LCD-X, but much cleaner and clearer. Try out those settings
A very informative and interesting take on the Ananda Nano, Sandu! From watching other 'Nano' reviews I'd have to say your take on them has been the most positive I've seen. And that's a good thing because your ear holes seem to have been cast from the same moulds as mine came from!!! Cheers!!
@@kanegforce3974 The sound signature EF400 is too cold, too crisp and does not even fit their products. I have tried it on my Sundara and Organic, performs even worse than my L&P W2-131 dongle
Why no comparison between Organic and HEk V2/HEk Stealth as they are only $100 difference now? The HEk SE is $600 more so why compare that?? It's so frustrating as many in Fb groups and in forums are trying to decide between these two and there are about 8 TH-cam Organic reviews and not one is offering help with this decision.
Its because the 1000se is the only one he owns rn (according to his review gear listed in the written review). But yeah, agreed that comparisons to v2 are non existent. Heck even Arya V2, not sure why thats always left out
it is so hard to choose one,both are very good.he1000v2 is more right,but the organic the low and high is more fun.thinking of the line,the he1000v2 is more cheap. so it depend on your listened,then choose one.i more like organic.
Watch Amplify Audio's review. (th-cam.com/video/_7JRmV-CDsE/w-d-xo.html) He does a little comparison in it, and it sounds like the Arya Organic pretty well obliterates the hd800 in every way. Monolithic soundstage, bass definition, tactility/texture... everything. I believe it too, considering how long the hd800 has been out, it doesn't surprise me at all that a lower cost headphone is capable of more.
@@Lost1ntheSauc3 nope according to Headfonia. These two are very different headphones, but in terms of bass and overall presence, the Arya Organic is very impressive. The HD800 S has great layering, soundstage, and spaciousness. It’s a matter of taste but I think if we compare straight technicalities, the HD800 S to me wins.
I have the HD800S (not the original one). Arya is more resolving across the FR and it's also livelier/punchier sounding. The only thing HD800S does better is the lateral soundstage.
@@Skeith89 Okay so you're trusting headfonia over an acclaimed audio reviewer, and you're telling me I'm objectively wrong about something neither of us have heard. Thanks for this worthwhile and fruitful interaction.
It's on the test bench, I'm currently working on its written/video review, I'll finish it probably next week (got Covid yesterday and I'm not feeling that well). Long story short: It pounds like Crazy! It's the pure definition of overkill in every possible way, but don't expect to carry it in your pocket - it's way too big.
Hello. great review of a great new product from my favorite headphone maker. I am the owner of the HE100SE headphones and I was a little nervous and fidgeting on the chair as I read your review ..
Oh yes my friend. I hope so. I look forward to your rave reviews about the new revolutionary susvara with an impedance of about 50-100 ohms and a price of 3-4 K. These are my prophetic dreams...@@Soundnews
While we wait for the new HEKSE and Susvara, I discovered one of the most revolutionary products for the price. I highly recommend buying the LHY Audio SW-10, it blew me away.@@Soundnews
Hi, it will drive them decently enough, but not to the level of a bigger DAC/AMP combos. If an xDuoo XD05 PRO would be a 10 out of 10 with the Organic, then the BTR7 would be an ~7.5 out of 10.
I tried both and me and even my brother deside that Organics sounds better!! More fun from music! SE are technically better, and more analytical but on good amp Organic are beasts! Extremely musical and fun to listen.
@@joelcutinho2020 yes.. Let me tell you this.. I was shocked how the sundara improved from fiio k5 pro ess to fiio k9.. More punch.. More open sound.. Details.. Basically the k5 was only incresing the volume.. While the k9 does what a dac amp should do... Improve the sound..
@@joelcutinho2020I totally agree as well the Sundara is amazing for the price. I have hybrid ZMF pads on mine and that alone gave it more punch and bigger soundstage and imo they sound way more expensive with these pads! I recently bought a brand new Schiit Mjolnir 3 which is a beastly 16 pound pure Class A headphone amp and it makes the Sundara shake and dance.
Greetings Sandu, Could you review the Kennerton Rognir,since you already own it? There are very few reviews on English and it seems to be a very interesting set of cans.
Watched that one right after the FT5 review. I am a soundstage guy and much appreciate your thoughts on this topic including your comparisons. To me the most important thing in headphone sound is soundstage depth and layering as well as soundstage heighth, while i almost dont care for soundstage width and details. Natural timbre is important to me tho. I would go for a Hifiman as my next planar (already own a couple), but i am always afraid of their bright sounding and piercing treble as they are tuned for max. resolution. At least the ones i have heard. Is there an alternative regarding soundstage depth and overall soundstage size, that is tuned like an FT5 under 2k EUR?
What portable dac/amp would you recommend for these? Preferably with Bluetooth capability also. Would a Topping G5 be good enough without breaking the bank or the back carrying it...?
The Organics and The XTC Open backs go head to head for sure - a little more listening pleasure from the JM XTC zero fatigue all addicting connection to music
I have the same prayer for father Odhin. Although Arya Organic will not change anything in their lineup and won't be able to compete with the higher end He1000 line...I think it's a welcome evolution. Not a big one, but a useful one. Still I clearly prefer Audeze Lcd-X for their punchy, musical, liquid and TRULY ORGANIC SOUND (😉), best in this class together with Hd800S. Arya is a combination between those two winner models without excelling at anything but doing most things quite good.
Susvara is their oldest current production Hifiman headphone, maybe its days are numbered and we'll see a successor that doesn't require nuclear power? We shall wait and see.
Bought a pair and have 300hrs on them. Using a Chord Hugo TT2. The organic are not worth the $$$ to my ears. Very good bass but that’s about it. Yes it stages well but it doesn’t sound like real musical instruments. Very disappointed.
you're definitely not butthurt are you? Hifiman offer a trade up programme you know, you don't have to trash talk the new improved versions of your headphones when they're released
I agree with with your comment about them being more "visceral" sounding. I recently upgraded from the Ananda OG, and tracks felt so much more... alive. Vocals sound so natural and real.😊
I have been using this headphone for about two weeks with Topping A90D and D90SE stack.
It's superb!
Have you heard Arya Stealth? I'm trying to decide between Stealth vs Organic. Considering the price difference the stealth looks really appealing to me at $400 less than Organic
Any chance for a review of the Hifiman Ananda Nano (for the less fortunate ones)? :)
Hey mate, sure thing. In about a month or so.
I'm definitely getting this one!
another awesome and useful review - thanks 👍
Great review! How do you think it compares with he1000 V2? I own the he1000 v2 stealth and Arya stealth and the described differences between Arya stealth and Arya organic by you and other reviewers seem like the organic is similar to the he1000
The only HE1000 I tried is the HE1000SE, which are still better, but not by much vs Arya Organic. HEKSE are a bit hotter sounding up top and are slightly more technical (clearer & faster) VS the Organic.
@@Soundnews you helped me purchase the HE1000SE, with your review. With some tuning I got the HE1000SE to slam very nicely and got rid of the annoying quality of too much air, out of the box. I have to be honest, to my ear, out of the box they sounded incredibly thin (although clear and fast) I added a 6 dB bass shelf to them, with a very similar type of comedown between 100 and 200 Hz, as the graph shows for the Organic. I got rid of the air and hotness of the treble, by lowering the 5.9K - 8K area, targeting around 6.5K with a shallow Q, down by 2 - 3 dB (done with 2 filters in that area, using the RME ADI 2 Pro FS) I raised around 200 Hz - 1000 kHz by 1 - 0.5 dB with a ultra wide Q. They sound very dynamic now, are still clear overall and are Thumpy, close to the LCD-X, but much cleaner and clearer. Try out those settings
A very informative and interesting take on the Ananda Nano, Sandu! From watching other 'Nano' reviews I'd have to say your take on them has been the most positive I've seen. And that's a good thing because your ear holes seem to have been cast from the same moulds as mine came from!!! Cheers!!
Price set to the side, would you prefer Meze 109 Pro or Arya Organic? Overall, quality, soundstage and vocals.
Arya Organic would be my choice. Their technical performance is better; they sound deeper and bigger and deliver every time I press play.
great review and nice T-Shirt. Got my organic last week - love it on my R2R Dac
Hi, which r2r you use, my organic will arrive in next two weeks..
Hifiman EF400
@@petrpulpytelis it arrived to you??
How the sound. Is it incredible??
@@mohammedbazhair2000 Hi, yes, they are superb, I use it with i aune s17pro, the sound is great, its my engame for a long time..
@@kanegforce3974 The sound signature EF400 is too cold, too crisp and does not even fit their products. I have tried it on my Sundara and Organic, performs even worse than my L&P W2-131 dongle
Hi, Sandu. Great content as always. Is there a chance you review Aune S9C Pro ? Thanks.
Hi Silviu, a plan like this is already in development. Not sure when it will happen, probably in a month or so.
Why no comparison between Organic and HEk V2/HEk Stealth as they are only $100 difference now? The HEk SE is $600 more so why compare that?? It's so frustrating as many in Fb groups and in forums are trying to decide between these two and there are about 8 TH-cam Organic reviews and not one is offering help with this decision.
Its because the 1000se is the only one he owns rn (according to his review gear listed in the written review). But yeah, agreed that comparisons to v2 are non existent. Heck even Arya V2, not sure why thats always left out
it is so hard to choose one,both are very good.he1000v2 is more right,but the organic the low and high is more fun.thinking of the line,the he1000v2 is more cheap. so it depend on your listened,then choose one.i more like organic.
how would these be for gaming ? i use a pair of AKGK812 and there sound stage and accuracy are pint point but a little to sharp for my ears
What is the best closed back planar for tone and timbre? Everything ekse is secondary. I would like instruments to sound like instruments
The best closed-back planar for tone & timbre is the Kennerton Rognir (planar version). Nothing surpassed it to this day
@@Soundnews thank you so much for the suggestion. Would a shanling h7 power this headphone?
@@ornobislam5106 H7 will easily drive them, mate
Nice review, how does it compare to HD800 ? hd800 got bigger stage and better resolution i think
Watch Amplify Audio's review. (th-cam.com/video/_7JRmV-CDsE/w-d-xo.html)
He does a little comparison in it, and it sounds like the Arya Organic pretty well obliterates the hd800 in every way. Monolithic soundstage, bass definition, tactility/texture... everything. I believe it too, considering how long the hd800 has been out, it doesn't surprise me at all that a lower cost headphone is capable of more.
@@Lost1ntheSauc3 nope according to Headfonia.
These two are very different headphones, but in terms of bass and overall presence, the Arya Organic is very impressive. The HD800 S has great layering, soundstage, and spaciousness. It’s a matter of taste but I think if we compare straight technicalities, the HD800 S to me wins.
I have the HD800S (not the original one). Arya is more resolving across the FR and it's also livelier/punchier sounding. The only thing HD800S does better is the lateral soundstage.
@@Skeith89 Okay so you're trusting headfonia over an acclaimed audio reviewer, and you're telling me I'm objectively wrong about something neither of us have heard. Thanks for this worthwhile and fruitful interaction.
I see xd05pro - what do you think, is it better than bal2?
It's on the test bench, I'm currently working on its written/video review, I'll finish it probably next week (got Covid yesterday and I'm not feeling that well). Long story short: It pounds like Crazy! It's the pure definition of overkill in every possible way, but don't expect to carry it in your pocket - it's way too big.
@@Soundnews I wish you health and thanks.
Hello. great review of a great new product from my favorite headphone maker. I am the owner of the HE100SE headphones and I was a little nervous and fidgeting on the chair as I read your review ..
Hey Evgeniy, relax, HEKSE are still better (but not by much). Intuition tells me a HEKSE succesor might be in the works. It feels that way.
Oh yes my friend. I hope so. I look forward to your rave reviews about the new revolutionary susvara with an impedance of about 50-100 ohms and a price of 3-4 K. These are my prophetic dreams...@@Soundnews
While we wait for the new HEKSE and Susvara, I discovered one of the most revolutionary products for the price. I highly recommend buying the LHY Audio SW-10, it blew me away.@@Soundnews
Can you drive them well with a BTR 7?
Yes, I've heard they can be amplified to sufficient volumes with an apple dongle. BTR7 will power them with ease.
@@Lost1ntheSauc3 not just sufficient volume but also sufficient punch and slam.
Hi, it will drive them decently enough, but not to the level of a bigger DAC/AMP combos. If an xDuoo XD05 PRO would be a 10 out of 10 with the Organic, then the BTR7 would be an ~7.5 out of 10.
Whitch you prever Arya Organic vs He1000se ?
I tried both and me and even my brother deside that Organics sounds better!! More fun from music! SE are technically better, and more analytical but on good amp Organic are beasts! Extremely musical and fun to listen.
@@jirilinhart2727 Is a Topping A50III a good enough amp?
Thank You! Great Review!
Good things about planar is they scales up with better dac amps.. When i tried that on sennheiser 6 series.. I didnt. Hear that at all..
Absolutely! These are scalling like crazy.
@@Soundnews even the sundara does.. And is only mid end.. I can immagine the aryas
@@TheMaurob1979yep, I own the sundara and it scales like crazy with the gear although it does sound good with gear close to its own price
@@joelcutinho2020 yes.. Let me tell you this.. I was shocked how the sundara improved from fiio k5 pro ess to fiio k9.. More punch.. More open sound.. Details.. Basically the k5 was only incresing the volume.. While the k9 does what a dac amp should do... Improve the sound..
@@joelcutinho2020I totally agree as well the Sundara is amazing for the price. I have hybrid ZMF pads on mine and that alone gave it more punch and bigger soundstage and imo they sound way more expensive with these pads! I recently bought a brand new Schiit Mjolnir 3 which is a beastly 16 pound pure Class A headphone amp and it makes the Sundara shake and dance.
Greetings Sandu,
Could you review the Kennerton Rognir,since you already own it? There are very few reviews on English and it seems to be a very interesting set of cans.
Watched that one right after the FT5 review. I am a soundstage guy and much appreciate your thoughts on this topic including your comparisons.
To me the most important thing in headphone sound is soundstage depth and layering as well as soundstage heighth, while i almost dont care for soundstage width and details. Natural timbre is important to me tho.
I would go for a Hifiman as my next planar (already own a couple), but i am always afraid of their bright sounding and piercing treble as they are tuned for max. resolution. At least the ones i have heard.
Is there an alternative regarding soundstage depth and overall soundstage size, that is tuned like an FT5 under 2k EUR?
Hifiman He1000 Stealth or V2, you are literally describing them lol 😉
You drive them well with a Qudelix-5K?
What portable dac/amp would you recommend for these? Preferably with Bluetooth capability also. Would a Topping G5 be good enough without breaking the bank or the back carrying it...?
The Questyle M15 works best
Just pick up my very first high end headphone. I ended up choosing Arya stealth
thank you, I will buy Arya Organic, it's a pity, of course, that I will live without a kidney, but I hope it's worth it.
Regarding the kidney, please check my latest community post :) Besides, who needs two kidneys anyways?
The Organics and The XTC Open backs go head to head for sure - a little more listening pleasure from the JM XTC zero fatigue all addicting connection to music
I'll be checking out your site. Jesus, they're beautiful!
If only the headband is that of HE1000SE fibrous type, I will consider this one.
They are great right up until they break, like mine just did :)
How long for break in?
about a week with my pair. I do really long listening sessions though... like up to 8 hours.
I have the same prayer for father Odhin. Although Arya Organic will not change anything in their lineup and won't be able to compete with the higher end He1000 line...I think it's a welcome evolution. Not a big one, but a useful one. Still I clearly prefer Audeze Lcd-X for their punchy, musical, liquid and TRULY ORGANIC SOUND (😉), best in this class together with Hd800S. Arya is a combination between those two winner models without excelling at anything but doing most things quite good.
Susvara is their oldest current production Hifiman headphone, maybe its days are numbered and we'll see a successor that doesn't require nuclear power? We shall wait and see.
@@Soundnews IT HAS YO BE THE NEXT UPGRADE, IT JUST HAS TO!
YAH!!!!
I like that shirt, is it merch?
It is not, but you gave me an idea so thank you for that! 🤝
@@Soundnews 🙏
❤
Bought a pair and have 300hrs on them. Using a Chord Hugo TT2. The organic are not worth the $$$ to my ears. Very good bass but that’s about it. Yes it stages well but it doesn’t sound like real musical instruments. Very disappointed.
Somebody that can afford a tt2 im assuming can go for something a susvara? I consider people in your price bracket to be audio snobs tbh no offense
Still hate the Organics. Piercing ear drum shredding upper end screech, I can't handle it. Long live my stealths :)
you're definitely not butthurt are you? Hifiman offer a trade up programme you know, you don't have to trash talk the new improved versions of your headphones when they're released
It's probably your source.
You are a God among Men. May you be blessed as such by Odin, and please continue to bless us mortals with your incredible videos!