It's already to long and whoever thinks elder scrolls 6 will be anything but incompetent and disappointing hasn't payed attention. They didn't release a good game for over a decade.
we do not want next Skyrim,we just want another Bethesda formula project,handcrafted world,dungeons,quests and actual story in it for both good and evil roleplay route existing,sometimes neutral between 2 factions like stormcloaks and imperials,and we would be fine even if the size of the game open world is not bigger than Skyrim,what we want isa game Bethesda cares for,to make immersive lore filled world,Starfield wasnt a game it was just a physics engine sim disguised as a game,if they go back to their old formula regardless of how well the game does,people will stil like it in the end
@@Dulc3B00kbyBrant0n it’s crazy cause that made my decision to not buy it too. I have literally never seen a company publicly admitting their product is bad prior to releasing that product. Like what
i like to imagine that Tes6 was like 70% done when Starfield launched and after the REAL reviews came out for the game they were like "we gotta start over...."
There is probably not a single talented dev left. There were a few bright spots in the map of 76 but that is 6 years ago now, damn where have the time gone?
I paid for it.. and enjoyed it.. over 2100 hours ... On my third DLC playthrough as well.. loving it.. laughing my butt off that I got my moneys worth and haters got salt in their eyes.. lololotrollolol
The fears -Further dumbed down RPG elements, most vanilla generic RPG systems -Combat still on the same level as Skyrim (no depth, dodge, parry/counter or rock paper scissors with weapon/armor types) -Railroaded quests without alternative paths/ending -0 player agency -Races are still just visual and stat change without unique mechanic coming from their species affinities (unique killmove, movement) -Mediocre story and uninteresting/shallow companions -Crap optimization and bug riddled -Open yet empty world
That's a given and it will only get worse. They are incompetent, the best talent has already left them and they aren't willing to change. They get what they deserve and only a few will shed tears after they didn't relase a good game for over a decade.
@@KissyKaede Haha. I'd also say avoid Square Enix - bitter about the lack of Dragon quest games we get overseas :(. Wouldn't want them handling TES or Fallout.
@@aaronh678 Ironically I think even modern Squeenix could do a better job with Elder Scrolls than Bethesda, not that that's saying a lot. Piranha Bites could as well. A Piranha Bites Elder Scrolls game would be full of jank but would probably be a lot of fun.
Here's my take; Skyrim came out in a time when open-world RPGs were still something of a rarity, especially in the AAA space. Skyrim brought that rarity into the hands of a very, very broad audience- and it was a slam dunk. After Skyrim, the "open-world-RPG with shallow mechanics" became commonplace, to the point of oversaturation. Back then, our options for casual-huge RPGs were basically limited to Bethesda titles- with some rare outliers like Fable. Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas. Fallout 4 was the first sign that they were no longer at the peak. Everyone I knew at the time considered the game a disappointment- very reminiscent of what happened with Starfield recently. We all played it and were really enjoying ourselves for the first few hours, but it rapidly started wearing-off as we peeled back the layers to find nothing underneath. (I'm well-aware that this wasn't the general sentiment, but this was the experience I shared with my friends back then) Now, we have Starfield releasing in a world where there's no end to the options we have for accessible RPGs. We have Cyberpunk 2077, we have the Far Cry games with those RPG-progression elements, the more recent Assassin's Creed games took on an RPG persona, we have Obsidian creating direct competition with Bethesda's "first-person fantasy RPG" style with Avowed (even though they lie and say that they're *not* trying to do that), we have the Borderlands franchise, we have survival-RPGs like Conan: Exiles or Ark, we have Dragon's Dogma, we have Middle-Earth: Shadow, we have South Park tie-in RPGs that are *actually fun*, we have YAKUZA games turning into RPGs!!! Bethesda no longer exists in a world where making something with "the most broad appeal in the industry" will work. We have been absolutely blessed in the past decade with RPGs appealing to every genre and sub-genre imaginable. In the modern landscape, a game developer casting too wide a net often finds their catch is just a sea of mixed reviews.
I agree. Also want to add my observation that the longer it takes to make a game, like, say Starfield, Concord, or Skull&Bones, the easier they are to be out of touch of the current gaming landscape upon release, as these gaming failures have shown.
@@huantruonginh2946 Absolutely- the fixation on appearance over EVERYTHING else plays a big part in that. How long did Bethesda spend on their "amazing new lighting technology, that bends light as it enters the atmosphere of a planet", only for their NPCs to look ten years out-of-date?
@@DutchThriceman Horizon zero dawn, god of war, RDR2, middle earth shadow of war, thise games look monumentally better, and play astronomically better
That's because Bethesda has this weird habit of hiring fresh-faced, inexperienced developers. On top of having only a few hundred developers compared to the thousands that other similar companies have. And then they try to make these giant groundbreaking games with that small inexperienced team. They're essentially a large indie company pretending to be a AAA one.
It's because they're using an ancient game engine that runs on their morrowind code base. It doesn't matter if they "revamped" the engine X times, still the same code base.
To me, there is NO hope now. After Emmmiillll the "writer" came out and says he "thinks" Slopfield is their bestest game evvvaaarrrr. Tells me SLOPRIM, SLOPPY SCROLLS is ...on the way.
Emil is their primary issue, the guy can't write. The dialogue in Bethesda games is god awful, the quests are basic and worst of all he dosen't grasp the IPs he's writing for so most of the lore is nonsensical and themed after irrelevant crap he's into (lovecraft, bladerunner etc).
"It's gamers fault for high expectarions" Damn. If only they didn't have over a decade to make a game with the expectations of it not being broken piles of shite. My bad Todd. I want ES6 but I'll wait another 6 months for the rot to be pointed out.
Yeah it’s like saying it’s like saying my yeah I didn’t have high expectations for my kids so I gave up on them now all they do is smoke weed and are a twitch streamer to one person and that one person is them….
That's why Bethesda games are getting worse, they will never take criticism seriously, instead blaming the players for not "getting it". ES6 will either be very mediocre or just bad.
Im waiting ES6 a lot. And enjoying Starfield in meantime, new dlc is even better and maybe more coming in the future. For me i want only more difficult and content.
Man, how hard is it to make an elder scrolls game for Bethesda. It’s all they know! I don’t even care about graphics, just make a cool open world with interesting creatures, magic, companions. They just have to focus on the important elements, not some random bullshit. If the graphics are the same as Skyrim it’s good enough for me 😂
Bethesda was on top of the world until late after FO4 in 2015. As good as the game was (and it was good despite the direction they seemed to be following since skyrim/oblivion and sold extraordinarily well), it was a sign of what was coming. TESV to FO4 were their golden, untouchable years. People thought they were incapable of not releasing absolute bangers despite the concerning signals, and so did the execs
No, I think part of it is that they are also listening to console players. A lot of console players were supportive of the Anniversary Edition and FO4 Next-Gen update, even with all the issues they caused. They bought the multiple releases of Skyrim, and praised Fallout 4. And I’m sure more copies of BGS games were sold on console than PC. Considering how many console players have low expectations and are easily pleased, Bethesda has been catering to them with the knowledge that they can afford to lose the PC audience.
@@waterloo32594 man. I'm so happy I don't think this way lol. I don't know why your blaming the console players for an incompetent company actions. You do realize that not all console players are fanboys that just eat up slop right? The next gen update was universally hated among all platforms. With the only players actually able to run the update being the most top of the line PC's. It was bethesda's incompetent actions and greed that costed their downfall, not console players. You do realize that PC players fall for the bethesda magic too right? Cause it'd be pretty ignorant to believe that only console peasants are to blame for the garbage bethesda has been releasing when it's the bethesda fanboys to blame.
@@CJS3637_MforAone I see you lack reading comprehension. See sentence 1 “No, I think part of it is that they are also listening to console player.” Furthermore, everyone who supports the updates that I PERSONALLY have run into say, when asked, that they are console players. A lot of people that I PERSONALLY have interacted with they like starfield, or that think fallout 4 was really good, was console players. A lot of the design decisions Bethesda has made in Skyrim, FO4, FO76, and Starfield, have large support from the console side of the player base. So from where I sit, looking at the Bethesda forums and the pro Bethesda channels, especially when Emil implies that Bethesda doesn’t look at or take criticism seriously and so wouldn’t be looking elsewhere for ideas or feed back, I can say that PART of the problem is the console players. I wish I could be as naive as you are when it comes to modern entertainment business practices and the casual consumer, but as some who’s job requires dealing with 400+ people everyday form all walks of life, I’m quite sure that I’m right. The consoles are part of the problem. And I’m not the first to say this, as it has been pointed out for every Bethesda release starting with Skyrim.
I see you lack reading comprehension. See sentence 1 “No, I think part of it is that they are also listening to console player.” Furthermore, everyone who supports the updates that I PERSONALLY have run into say, when asked, that they are console players. A lot of people that I PERSONALLY have interacted with they like starfield, or that think fallout 4 was really good, was console players. A lot of the design decisions Bethesda has made in Skyrim, FO4, FO76, and Starfield, have large support from the console side of the player base. So from where I sit, looking at the Bethesda forums and the pro Bethesda channels, especially when Emil implies that Bethesda doesn’t look at or take criticism seriously and so wouldn’t be looking elsewhere for ideas or feed back, I can say that PART of the problem is the console players. I wish I could be as naive as you are when it comes to modern entertainment business practices and the casual consumer, but as some who’s job requires dealing with 400+ people everyday form all walks of life, I’m quite sure that I’m right. The consoles are part of the problem. And I’m not the first to say this, as it has been pointed out for every Bethesda release starting with Skyrim.
People have been playing Skyrim for 15 years. If TES6 is just Skyrim again, in a different location, it's going to be an absolute shit storm of backlash. They better innovate in key areas, like combat for example, but I don't think they will. In fact, given that the melee combat in Starfield is the same as the melee combat in Skyrim, I don't think they're capable of innovation.
honestly if TES6 is just Skyrim again in a new location and high res graphics, the backlash wont be as bad as the likely outcome that TES6 will be worse than Skyrim, hell even potentially worse than Starfield just based on bethesda's release pattern of "make every game worse than the last"
5:10- WTF is this guy talking about ? with Baldur's gate 3 Larian did what they already done with Divinity Original Sin 1 & 2, they just refined their craft even more, but everything was already there before BG3, so i'm not worried about their next game which will most likely be another great title if they keep on the same trajectory; I just expect Larian to make Larian games. I'm way less confident about Bethesda and their ability to pull a good game (not even better than that) out as they went downhill a long time ago; after Skyrim TBF.
Dudes stupid. Larian focuses on their own passion and what they want to do, they shouldn't even be part of a discussion that concerns toxic game companies, they're far away from that. He should shut his mouth fr.
Literally couldn't agree more, this was a refining of their age long craft. I am SO excited for the next DoS game, lovely series with exceptional lore and some of the deepest role-playing mechanics found among games. They are a shining beacon of advocacy for traditional RPGs
Until Emil is fired and entirely removed from any BGS project, Bethesda is doomed. That POS is so smug about his latest shit ball that is the shattered space 'dlc' he refuses to take any criticism and believes his shit (ball) doesn't stink and is in fact smelling of fresh baked cookies and brownies. Dudes a joke and will end BGS's career.
Dude! You're not kidding about the Shattered Space DLC. It broke my heart. It had so much potential and it ended so abruptly... it was so damn short. Emil needs to go... into a woodchipper, in the middle of nowhere. That dude is just frustrating.
@@shanehaworth6090 emil should be blacklisted from ever being a main writer of any game studio ever again he's plain terrible as a writer (fallout 4's practically 2 endings prove it,either institute go boom,or not and you kill the bos and railroad,ofc you can kill the bos and railroad independently,yet that doesn't change that 3 of the 4 faction endings make the institute go boom unless you join the institute and yk)
Larian didn't "come out of nowhere" they've been making the divinity series which are some of the best rpgs ever made they were always on the map you guys were just too busy being distracted by mid games
Most players are casual RPG players that haven't played a hardcore rpg in their life. Their standards are very low and they may even be overwhelmed with real RPG systems, interesting characters, good stories, consequences with your choices and a complex combat system. Bethesda didn't release a good game since over a decade and is completely incompetent. The casuals get bored too and don't want the same slop with a different coat everytime. They have work and a family now and aren't willing to spend their time with an average or below average game.
Fr, dude is one of those casual plebs who only hop in what's trendy or something and values games based on how popular it is. He should keep Larian out of his mouth.
So tell me what’s crazy was I was 20 years old when fallout 4 came out, so I will be nearly 40 years old when the next fallout comes out. I was a sophomore in high school when Skyrim came out and I’ll be like 32 years old when the next elder scrolls comes out. That’s just wild to me.
Bro im already hitting 44 when it comes out and most of them are dudds, my ps4 broke and im not even considering buying a ps5 think ill upgrade my laptop or get a reasonable pc... Gta5 was ok but i still think it was smaller story wise than with all the gay Tony addons and stuff on the older gta .... Im afraid gta6 will be shit as well, they already have the strong female protagonist..... Dont mind if they include gay prides as long as you have the option to run them over! Lmao! Used to love.rome Total War but they f..ked that up 2... Guess the og programmers are getting 2 old for this shit and its not there fight anymore.
@@LordEha Dont worry lad, over half the youtube commenters are shadowbanned by now. I can't even count how many times my comments were deleted for seemingly no reason.
Bethesda's problem with making games is not "how to meet players' expectations". It's "how can we slip in as many monetizations without the player noticing?"
Let that sink in. 6 Years. Since you've seen a CGI clip of Elder scrolls 6, that literally showed you nothing. And Bethesda _still_ hasn't came out with anything yet. I'm sorry, but that takes a true mastery skill in incompetence.
Recipe for TES6 success: 1. Hand made detailed world no bigger than Skyrim's (no procedural generation crap) 2. Less loading screens (fine, I can take loading between world to buildings if that is necessary) 3. Memorable and fun well written characters and companions (modders did those for skyrim, so it's possible) 4. True RPG mechanics with stats and actual personality for your character (less streamlined gameplay) 5. No forced DEI and far left propaganda
Maybe another one 6. Create a game world that feels as if it exists even without you playing it. Like the Witcher 3. 7. Their engine is too old, i think it sucks. Graphics look to dated and to similar to their other games. They claim they need it, makes no sense since other game world like cyberpunk excists. Or the new witcher game will use UE5. 8. A great music score like the scrolls games music composed by Jeremy Soule. 9. And yes like you said true RPG mechanics. Not the dumbed down stuff that has been happening. But ah wel this will never happen. Thing like being able to create a crazy spell that makes you jump a mile high.
Basically , kinda follow the production value? I really think they should go more heavy on the RPG elements Better npcs and lives Handmade environments And of course , JEREMY SOULE
I know one thing, I’m not buying it until reviews come out. I haven’t bought a Bethesda game since the day I bought Skyrim and Fallout 4 together, and so far that’s worked out great for me
To put it in context we would be on elder scrolls 8-9 in 2026 if Bethesda retained the 3-4 year release schedule. Honestly I think Bethesda should sell off fallout and elder scrolls if they are so confident with starfield.
Also Todd has SAID that , " they take very little out of their games". Yeah, yeah the...little things like, spell selection, character customization, rpg elements. You know the...little things.Yet they'll leave things in their games like, kid in a fridge or the password for the railroad is RAILROAD. How HARD did you "work" to come up with THAT one?
They vastly downgraded Morrowind to just an island from the original plan of the whole province, cut out the entire Imperial Council questline from Oblivion and took an axe to the civil war so it wouldn't 'distract from the main plot' In a game that is built on nothing but distractions from the main plot
why would they make good game when they can release skyrim for the 10th time and ppl positively reward them for their decisions. Not to mention bethesda games were almost always been mid, Morrowind was something truly new but since then it was recycling and simplyfiyng. And because fans are no longer fixing their shit it is what it is
I still don't understand why normies were praising anniversary edition, like wtf my single player game got useless updates every month cause of it yet people were praising them
@@MGrey-qb5xzmost of the people praising the anniversary edition were console players, and as simple minded console peasants they didn’t care. A few actually told me it’s my fault for playing with mods, and that I should just buy the “creations”. Same with FO4s “next gen update”, at least until these peasants realized that the update broke their games too. Honestly, half the issues with Bethesda is because of console players, who as simple minded consumers with low standards they buy the creations and pre order each release and most of them will defend the games. Edit: this is just my experience dealing with people who supported the updates, and it was mostly on 2 channels, Juicehead and MrMattyPlays.
@@waterloo32594 I'm a console player and i was forced to delete my install cause it kept bloating and downloading over and over on my ssd. There are TOO many mods on the market to justify a PERMANENT install from bugthesda's handouts
@@waterloo32594 It isn't only console, but Bethesda fans that think they can't do no wrong. I have the anniversary collection of Skyrim on PS4, but that's on console, I also have the legendary edition on 360, I don't support paid for mods since they're a lower quality than what a modder can actually do and you get better content for it. Creation mods should be free and be given community feedback on how they could be improved upon, it took years just for some creations to actually be good in Skyrim and have a good quest line behind it, but it's too little, too late and they still cost $6-$10 each, with a bit more money you can buy an Indie game that offers you a new experience and give you hours of gameplay and new content over a creation that can be finished in 1-3 hours at most while that Indie game could last 6-10 hours and you get more of your money's worth out of it.
@@waterloo32594 his has a really gross "oh... poor people" vibe, and while there's some truth in that hardcore and casual players are different, and console is more approachable and therefore more likely to be casual, I don't know how many people will be able to look past the nasty attitude to see it. console players aren't the same as mobile game players XD
Almost none of the devs that made Skyrim will be making TES6, especially in similar development roles that they had. They will have hired a bunch of college kids who have never made successful video games. They will shove a bunch of woke corporate nonsense into the game. My guess is they will try to work to make the combat and graphics better, but since they don't know how to actually entertain people, it will still be boring. I can also guess that the NPCs will talk way too much like the Starfield npcs did.
I hope they get shut down, I hope they get taken off the corporate game fairy go round, and the loyal good devs start their own studio and somehow get the rights to Elder scrolls and Fallout.
@@IcyTorments Fallout 4 was alright and Starfield was bad. (imo to me). Fallout 4 with mods is incredible and I'm hopeful Starfield might be decent with mods someday in the future (perhaps it already is, haven't looked into SF modding yet). But we can't credit Bethesda for the mods that the community makes.
If they arrogantly claim that Starfail is their best game, then it's clear they're going in that same direction with TES6. I don't think Bethesda truly knows how to make an RPG even if they tried. None of their RPGs were as complex and role-play-ish as the best RPGs out there, possibly not even Morrowind. May the TES and Fallout IPs rest in peace, such a shame.
nah, morrowind was the bomb back in the day, to bad to many are to stupid to get complex stat systems and the like, so bethesda started dumbing things down.
I remember being a sophomore in High school and being so hyped for Fallout 4. My naive self actually thought they would build upon the rpg mechanics of New Vegas.
Most of the games I had the most fun this last couple of years were all games that came out "out of nowhere" with no marketing, no trailers, and no 6 years prior teasers. The irony is that one of them was from Bethesda themselves with HiFi Rush, being aware it was a 3rd party studio, which M$ then decided to have the "genius" move of shutting them down. Hype builds up preorder sales, but it also builds up extreme expectations which become impossible to satisfy. Expectations of which I now give for granted to be disappointing, due to the constant burns the AAA market has provided me for so long. I think it's some good 4 years that I don't buy any AAA at all, give AA a chance only after they got released, and focusing my trust almost entirely on indie games. Bethesda should attempt to bring out a genuinely good RPG (not TES. A different IP created ad-hoc) out of nowhere, with no announcements or trailers, and see how it goes, to build up some trust back. To me, seeing "20 years in the making" or teasers of something coming in "203X" only means "overbloated project which faced/is facing endless development hell". It is NOT something to brag onto.
Like you said with "endless development hell" ...They cant efficiently manage their current size as proven by either projects and witnesses. No matter the project if they just continue with their "bioware" magic nothing will change. They tried to bring out a genuinely "good rpg" with starfield and even looking back at the marketing it was nothing groundbreaking... They expanded without ever having a plan on how to continue.
The problem with a new IP can be seen with Starfield vs ES and FO. Both older IP were created long ago, by men much more creative and imaginative (and probably more intelligent) then the current crop at BGS. These creatives are long gone. It’s why older fans hate modern BGS games, as Todd and co rip out, retcon, and blatantly ignore old lore, replacing it with unimaginative, boring, contradictory, or even nonsensical new lore. Look at Starfield’s lore, and how bland and sanitized it is compared to even FO4 and ES5.
I think these studios get stuck on one type of game, and don't consider which format suits the game. There's still a decent segment of people who like turn based JRPG or CRPG games, so bethesda should lean in that direction with heavy dialogue and an immersive story. Even if its more linear it would play to the strengths of TES detailed world building and fleshed out locations. Dragonquest 8 is a fantastic JRPG and a TES game in that vein would be great. they seem to be doing just the exact same game, with a different skin again and again, and frankly they lose features with each installment.
I think ES6 will suck because it *WON'T* have the following: 1. Dark Souls like combat or Witcher 3 style combat or just improved combat in general over ES5. 2. Lame relationship system like Starfield where you can only romance 5 characters most of which are dudes and mid females except for Andreja. 3. Improved magic system. It's more than likely they'll reuse Skyrims magic system and we won't be able to spellcraft like in Oblivion. 4. A compelling story and side stories. 5. more armor slots and customization of armor in detail. 6. Day 1 creation kit access to make mods immediately. I hope I'm very wrong. Also to any naysayers on certain things above being possible, Mods have done all of the above to ES5.
It wouldn't actually be that hard to live up to skyrim. Its a super old ass game that they have had all the time in the world to improve upon. It will have been 2 generations of game consoles. they simply should just cease to exist as a game company if they can't improve on it. modders have already remade this game over and over, there is simply no excuse. Its actually so baffling that a company with millions of dollars at it's disposal manages to fail in every category of making a good game nowadays. All the resources one could ever ask for and they STILL just come up with complete dogshit. Truly embarrassing and the leadership should ALL be fired for putting such trash out onto the world!
Games are taking longer because they arent working on them. They pivoted to milking monetizing, especially mobile, to increase valuation for the MS acquisition. Also Todd himself said its good to miss things. Just an excuse to fabricate scarcity so ESO and FO76 are the only options for casuals (or rebuying older games). All of them hamfisted with MTXs - selling "solutions" to the problems they created.
Horrible example with Larian. That interviewer was a complete moron - Larian had already had enormous critical and popular acclaim before BG3, thanks to... y'know, the game that ACTUALLY put them on everyone's radar: Divinity Original Sin 2. Anyway, most of the issues you stated you were explicitly worried about are due to the game's engine by the way. So, until they rectify that issue, then yes the aforementioned issues will still be present in future titles such as ES6.
Bethesda won't do RPGs, simple because they don't have the drive for it. Class buff/debuffs, racial buff/debuffs, special abilities for race/class, special enchantments for race/class, min-maxing, height, speed, specific racial/class/faction hidden quests and tying that all together with non class/racial elements to form a actual RPG.
The fact they keep calling Stanfield a good and forcing it like it's skyrim or fallout. That kills hype for me. If elder scolls is ass thier not gonna admitted to it
Bethesda simply changing or upgrading their engine will not help I personally think... even going to unreal engine. I can think of tons of bad unreal engine games... its in the process and the rush / crunch time culture Bethesda gets stuck in.. playing with ideas , changing and restarting projects and than running short on time and rushing it out. Having a clean clear vision is Bethesda's biggest problem.
Shattered space feels like a cut faction questline . They did it that way because its something people already paid for... ... just did it to cover a pre order promise.
Larian has BEEN on the map for years! Divinity 2 was their Magnum Opus that is why BG3 is what it is. It's a failure on your part to say they were a nobody until BG3. D&D is the biggest TTRPG of all time. What makes you think they would pick a nobody company to develop their dream?
From the beginning I realized that The Elder Scrolls VI would be very difficult if not impossible to match The Elder Scrolls V because they put a MASSIVE amount of quality and effort into making The Elder Scrolls V for it's time, and for VI to match V, let alone exceed it, a level of quality and effort unheard of in the gaming industry would be needed. When the trailer rolled out, I was like, "That's it?", and when Starfield was finally released, I lost absolutely all hope whatsoever for a matching sequel to the Elder Scrolls VI. Cut your losses now, The Elder Scrolls VI IS NOT going to be worth it.
It's a bit of a shame in and of itself that a judgment can be made based on something that has not been released. Very often, complaining about the fact that it takes too long before a game is released leads to disappointment upon release, while trying to rush releases compromises its quality, after which complaints manifest over just how badly it turned out. Some people enjoy aspects of the new Bethesda games; some do not. If a game isn't targeted toward the likings of one group, that doesn't mean it won't appeal to others. Neutral, Bethesda is toeing a tight line. The time they take between releasing The Elder Scrolls VI, TES6, anticipation among their fans could go unrealistically high-a level where it could be almost impossible for Bethesda to meet such expectations. On the other hand, rushing TES6 will result in a low-quality game where mismanagement will open them to criticism both by fans and detractors alike. No matter how the game will turn out, there are still instances of negativity that cannot be avoided, be it from people who did not like their previous titles or people who are nitpicky with the new release. It's interesting to note that even Skyrim was a moderately detailed game and didn't need a very powerful computer to operate. That made it more accessible to almost anyone. It probably contributed to its high sales and popularity. For many, maybe this was their first game-a new experience that felt like a breakthrough at that time. Of course, this is just my speculation.
Very well said! Also the Hate fad for TH-cam clicks or X is also I huge reason so many good games recieve as many good reviews as bad but you don't see the good ones unless you look. No game will or can ever be for every gamer and made exactly how they want, seems very short sighted for gamers to expect that. If you didn't like the past Bethesda games move on already, stop trying to make them change to what you want, your not the target audience. I love all there games, shocking I love Starfield too wow! How is that possible?? Easy it is 75% just like all there other games but with better graphics, and more spread out locations, also has loading screens like ALL there other games too but if you played those on Xbox 360 or PS3 you know the loading times for entering buildings or dungeons was way way longer. In Starfield there what 3-5 seconds. My only expectation is I want them to stay true to Bethesda games and not change too much, graphics will be better like Starfield, all they need is more crafted locations, quest, NPC's/followers and story that are all bigger than Skyrim. I loved the combat in Vanilla Skyrim, do not like MCO or souls like combat. Either way I will love it for what they create not what I want as I am not making there game.
Dogshit take. Morrowind - Oblivion and Skyrim are quite distinct from each other, Morrowind for one has far deeper RPG mechanics in skills, combat greatly different etc.
"I wonder if the same design philosophy will work in a game slated to release in 2026" It didn't even work in a game that released in 2023: starfield. Starfield felt like a total conversion mod for skyrim. Nothing more. And certainly not worth $70. ES6 will release at $70 or higher, and i'll happily wait until it and it's over priced under delivering DLC all bundle together for around 30 bucks.
I Never ran Elder Scrolls Online hardcore but I would go to Morrowind in ESO and rock down fighting vampires outside the gates of Solitude. What I am saying is you can go to Seyda Neen in ESO because ESO has been the living Elder Scrolls game for the past 10 years,
bro, I gave up on this company a LONG time ago, they have fumbled majorly, waiting nearly two decades to make a sequel is possibly the lazies stupidest thing I've ever heard. Their entire audience is completely different now. I just wish their customers would STOP buying their games and make them pay.
For me writing on the wall was there since Fallout 4 came out. I still sort of enjoyed Skyrim and mods really helped pull it out of the “meh” hole. Even still, mechanically it felt like a downgrade from Oblivion. And playing Failout 4 after New Vegas felt like going from navigating a great flowing river to splashing in a kiddie pool. I don’t care about graphics or bugs. Those are the easiest things to fix. I powered through both New Vegas and Cyberpunk’s bugs on release, no complaints. What I care about is captivating story, decisions and consequ, mechanical depth and replayability. All of the things Bethesda outright refuses to engage with. Idk what “sky-high expectations” this dude was talking about. I expect TES6 to be uninspired and mediocre dumbed down slop
It’s their fault that Elder Scrolls six is going to be so bad. The longer the wait, the higher the expectations that fans are going to have for the game. But they won’t get anywhere close to fan expectations, and the game will fail
They will fail because one why bother pushing yourself when your fans will improve your games for free and you can charge them for their own work and two Bethesda is so reliant on its modding community to improve/ fix their games they no longer know how to create their own content just look at skyrim 2016 was the last time they added new meaningfull content the rest have been money grabs with little content added by themselves so I have zero expectations for elder scrolls 6 just release it so we the community can start turning it into the game it should've been
Todd if he was being honest: Just wait, Elder scrolls 6 will have companions that are only good guys and will dislike the way you talk, the way you walk, the way you breathe. It will also have the player character leading every single faction in the game in 3 missions(gotta keep the casuals happy). It will have 5000 loading screens just to enter and leave a small house. It will have: Shitty first person and even shittier third person combat(mods will fix it teheee :P ). It will have the most generic good guy vs bad guy story imaginable with fetch quests all over the place to bloat the game time.
I was thinking about this yesterday, and I feel like we can expect another Skyrim remaster before ES6 comes out. I would say to expect to see Skyrim ported into the ES6 engine with some minor feature enhancements and visual upgrades, and that will happen to offset costs of development for ES6. and then ES6 will suck.
Lets look at Oblivion, Skyrim and now starfield. Every newer game had shorter and shorter quest lines. every game had more and more fillers. Oblivion you had to work to get into some guilds. Skyrim, can I join... no problem.. Starfield what guilds... Quest lines themselves, Oblivion would take a day or three, Skyrim a day, starfield a few hours. They have found its cheaper and easier to make short quests lines and then fill the rest of the game with one offs like Starfield is. then looks at the worlds. Oblivion had thousands of characters with a full day night cycle, duties would talk randomly to people even though that part did become a meme. Skyrim's was hundreds of characters with half the characters with a day night cycle. And Starfield had nothing.
The quality of Elder Scrolls 6 hangs on the quality of talent pool at the current Bethesda... it isn't looking good. 😖😖😖 As for the loading times. Have you ever played games on Sinclair ZX Spectrum or Commodore C64? They used compact cassette as a medium (the thing people used to listen audio from). The game itself would take 15 minutes to load. After the game is loaded, splash screen will appear with message: "press fire (on Joystick) or "Enter/Return". After hitting the button or key, the level starts to load. cca, another ~5 minutes (per level mind you). While loading, the screen goes into psychedelic trans with sound of a dial up model the whole time (establishing line with the ISP). This was unavoidable part of THE gaming back in the '80s to early '90s. 😵💫😵💫😵💫
Expectations been sky high is one thing. The ability to execute on those sky high expectations is something different entirely. For me, I don’t have any high expectations that Bathesda can deliver as it’s rather disappointingly low. How they perform at executing their last game tells me everything I need to know about their next game.
2026??!! I’m gunna be homeless and half to trade my Xbox for a crack rock by then Edit:all Bethesda has to do is make the same exact game with the engine they used in starfeild with a new map🤷
I hope they don’t do the same thing with elder scrolls like they did to fallout series. Everything after skyrim and new vegas is boring there is no reason to play. I never played starfield and i will never do that. Rip fallout franchise fallout 4 isn’t a fallout game my opinion
Six years? Jesus Christ. These past six years wasn’t easy for me. I lost my mother, my grandmother, my father not being an active father. These greedy corporations are already getting on my last nerve.
After Fallout 4 Bethesda has really Shat the bed, and continues to do so... They are spouting off that Starfield is by far the best game they have ever made....Yea...they sure are learning from this. not only that, but its been how long? And Skyrim and fallout 4 are still not fixed, and if you get the mods that fix the games...You get no achievement points. Since No Man's Sky I haven't pre-ordered any games since and waiting on reviews before I make the decision.
yeah, Skryim and Fallout 4 are peak. They're dropping the ball, but Starfield is still better than most games out there. ES6 may be ok as long as it's not DEI infested
Skyrim and Fallout 4 were never that good. People were praising it left and right, calling it a masterpiece, but in the last years there is more than enough critique for the stupid and boring Bethesda formula. They are incompetent and can't/won't evolve. People tend to be nostalgic and count the hundreds of mods installed as if Bethesda should be given any credit for it.
@@DieEineMieze i mean its cliche to say "skyrim not as good as morrowind" but i am saying it. Skyrim was made for the brainrot generation that has little understanding of substance over style and will be wow'd and amazed because something looks cool, i was there in highschool when Skyrim came out having to tell people "yes elder scrolls 5 skyrim is the 5th game in a series" the consensus that "skyrim is a masterpiece" came about because of literal morons
@@DieEineMieze Just because people can critique it, doesn't mean that its not a masterpiece. Look at games made nowadays like Cyberpunk, Elden Ring and Baulders Gate 3. There is plenty to pick apart and criticize for those games but that doesn't mean they aren't masterpieces. Hell, Fallout New Vegas, a game everyone simps for can't even run half the time yet that game is considered one of the best RPGs of all time. Also "Bethesda formula" is used in all open world RPGs and frankly Skyrim still does a lot of things better then those games. The Reason BGS themselves are not pulling it off anymore is because they are devolving their design. In other words, they ruined their formula. Also I've never seen anyone credit BGS to the mods. They are 100% a part of the game though since everyone has access to them now but just because BGS didn't make them doesn't mean they don't count as part of the game.
Hey, but we can at least have a "non-binary," blue-haired liberal white woman cosplaying as an Altmer in ESO while we continue to wait for ES6. :D More seriously though, Bethesda has been going downhill for a long time. Even though I enjoyed Fallout 4 and Skyrim, the series peaked with Morrowind for me, and even that game had complaints of dumbing down at the time compared to Daggerfall.
I’m just gonna say it, Skyrim isn’t that great. I’ve rarely desired to go back and play it. I remember I beat the main story, got 100 smithing, and 100 block/shield. It just doesn’t have that same excitement and exploration enjoyment as oblivion and Morrowind had. Also so many people judge Skyrim, based on beautiful mod changes. That wasn’t the original or developer content. When I really think back to this game, it was honestly quite stale and mundane. Every cave I explored was lifeless and empty or cookie cutter. The combat lost its luster after playing for a few hours. I genuinely am curious how I beat the game, cause any time I see video gameplay of it, I just wonder what kept me playing it as long as I did? I still have fond memories of fallout 3 and genuinely enjoy going back to it sometimes. I really think Skyrim was the beginning of the end of Bethesda. They didn’t carry over what made quests and exploration exciting in older games .
My view on Skyrim is similar, though I have had plenty of fun with it. Skyrim is an RPG-lite cozy game that is trying to look like an epic fantasy adventure. When I just want to relax and turn off my brain, it can be fun to wander aimlessly around the world, grab all the useless loot I can find, and hoard it in chests in the player houses. It's a nice enough world to explore, but the depth of a game like Daggerfall or Morrowind simply isn't there. I recently got back into Morrowind and messed around with it a little, and it reminded me of just how much is missing from Skyrim. I think I might find some good mods, create a custom class, and play through the game again, though it might be a while since Timberborn just got a big update and I'll probably spend the next few days building beaver cities. I think I'll join House Redoran this time since, for some reason, I've never done that before. (I'm partial to House Telvanni - I like grumpy, crazy mages.) As for the next Elder Scrolls game, I think all we can expect is that it will be a decent, middle-of-the-road experience that isn't quite up to the standard of Skyrim, and that it will be polluted by an overpriced cash shop. Those who want a hard core RPG need to look elsewhere. Bethesda doesn't make those anymore.
@@heatherharrison264 friend of mine who loves Morrowind, adequately points out how he loves that the quests don’t hold your hands. The instructions can be as simple as head east past the giant tree. Skyrim gives you a path and marks it on your map, almost every cave feels the same, the combat gets so stale after enough time. Like BG3 every play through feels like a new experience with dialogue I missed last time, or characters I didn’t fully utilize in my party, different ways to approach every dialogue or combat. The npc interactions in Skyrim were so stale, versus haggling vendors in Morrowind for 10 mins until they relented. The guilds were so much more memorable in oblivion. I also laughed so much playing fallout 3 with so many niche interactions. Just felt the empty lifelessness of their open world, full of very dull experiences.
I said in a comment before, whether you like Skyrim or not, it was the beginning of Bethesda's downfall by them making rpgs more casual and simplifying the mechanics in their games as they try to sell Skyrim with a different skin. Fallout 4 is Skyrim with a different skin, Starfield is too, but with more mediocre content and empty worlds that are forgettable.
Manage OUR Expectations? So GTA V, RDR2, Doom 2016 and Eternal, God of war 2018, Stellar blade, Black Myth Wukong, etc. All games that had less than half the time TES 6 has, and it's still going to be shit? Stop defending these people dude. They lost a long time ago.
Its already a failure. Think about it if you are an investor are you going to wait 10-12 years for a return on that. Theres long term investing then there is owning bethesda stocks.
At first I thought the title was just to bring more views and midway he doesn't even sound that ridiculous but he just fhad to fucking say stupid shit like that at the end didn't he. Like what is up with YTrs putting out copy paste videos that have already been made a 1000 times besides for clicks and views
‘There aren’t many examples of advanced physics in the game’ Bro, every cell of this game contains dozens of objects that all have their own physics, and not only that the game remembers them even when you aren’t in the cell. You realise how nuts that is? It’s remembering the physics of an object that isn’t even rendered. Most games only really have to have the physics of the player and enemies when they ragdoll. The creation engine has to remember the physics of every single one of those sandwiches and succulents, all at once, even in a different cell. Then add that so many of those cells have different gravity settings. Just to be clear I’m not fanboying, and the game was absolutely mid. But that aspect is insanely complicated and I take my hat off to Bethesda for it. There’s a reason why no other games really operate like that with clutter.
Used to love watching this guy but like what is he talking about?? Ugh when the FANTASY GAME has diversity like no shit bro just because it doesn’t pander to you doesn’t mean it’s “propaganda”
Honestly Fallout 3 was a major step down in quality when it comes to storytelling, There is a good reason people still play Fallout 1,2 & New Vegas while no one ever replays Fallout 3.
The craziest thing is the LONGER they wait, the bigger the disappointment will be
It's already to long and whoever thinks elder scrolls 6 will be anything but incompetent and disappointing hasn't payed attention. They didn't release a good game for over a decade.
I no longer have any expectations for it and cannot be disappointed. My expectations is that it's going to flop...
The reason why HL3 was never made, not making it was the best option for everyone.
we do not want next Skyrim,we just want another Bethesda formula project,handcrafted world,dungeons,quests and actual story in it for both good and evil roleplay route existing,sometimes neutral between 2 factions like stormcloaks and imperials,and we would be fine even if the size of the game open world is not bigger than Skyrim,what we want isa game Bethesda cares for,to make immersive lore filled world,Starfield wasnt a game it was just a physics engine sim disguised as a game,if they go back to their old formula regardless of how well the game does,people will stil like it in the end
@@DieEineMiezealmost 2 decades, I'd argue that skyrim isn't that good
Bethesda is already making excuses before we even seen a second of gameplay
that's not a good sign
Yup i saw that too. I already decided to never buy ES6 but that just confirms how bad its going to be
@@Dulc3B00kbyBrant0n it’s crazy cause that made my decision to not buy it too. I have literally never seen a company publicly admitting their product is bad prior to releasing that product. Like what
i like to imagine that Tes6 was like 70% done when Starfield launched and after the REAL reviews came out for the game they were like "we gotta start over...."
There is probably not a single talented dev left. There were a few bright spots in the map of 76 but that is 6 years ago now, damn where have the time gone?
What is a good sign? Is there anything that you may consider a good sign?
A loading screen doesn’t bother me. Its a loading screen, loading screen, loading screen, loading screen cinematic in a row that really sucked.
Right. A few no big deal but I don't go to the lodge unless I absolutely have to. Load screen to it and bam again going through the door. Like wtf!!
First mistake was buying a modern Bethesda game
@@George-um2vc wait you guys paid for it? Wasn't for game pass I definitely wouldn't be playing it lol
@@jimhetland1423you reply to the wrong comment? I wouldn't even pirate that trash.
I paid for it.. and enjoyed it.. over 2100 hours ... On my third DLC playthrough as well.. loving it.. laughing my butt off that I got my moneys worth and haters got salt in their eyes.. lololotrollolol
The fears
-Further dumbed down RPG elements, most vanilla generic RPG systems
-Combat still on the same level as Skyrim (no depth, dodge, parry/counter or rock paper scissors with weapon/armor types)
-Railroaded quests without alternative paths/ending
-0 player agency
-Races are still just visual and stat change without unique mechanic coming from their species affinities (unique killmove, movement)
-Mediocre story and uninteresting/shallow companions
-Crap optimization and bug riddled
-Open yet empty world
It will have all of that.
mediocre story it's inevitable, until emil piglianculo is in charge
It will be that and worse. It will not even have any RPG system any more
I jokingly made a prediction that it'll be Infinity Blade but with Elder Scrolls paint.
That's a given and it will only get worse. They are incompetent, the best talent has already left them and they aren't willing to change. They get what they deserve and only a few will shed tears after they didn't relase a good game for over a decade.
At this point, i'm only praying TES6 is so fucking bad the Fallout IP is ripped away from Todd's hands and given to another studio(s)
TES and Fallout IP should be passed on. Absolute joke.
@@aaronh678 Literally anyone could do a better job with those IPs, even Obsidian and Larian. Maybe not Bioware though, let's be real.
@@KissyKaede Haha. I'd also say avoid Square Enix - bitter about the lack of Dragon quest games we get overseas :(. Wouldn't want them handling TES or Fallout.
@@aaronh678 Ironically I think even modern Squeenix could do a better job with Elder Scrolls than Bethesda, not that that's saying a lot. Piranha Bites could as well. A Piranha Bites Elder Scrolls game would be full of jank but would probably be a lot of fun.
Todd said he’s retiring after tes6
Here's my take;
Skyrim came out in a time when open-world RPGs were still something of a rarity, especially in the AAA space.
Skyrim brought that rarity into the hands of a very, very broad audience- and it was a slam dunk.
After Skyrim, the "open-world-RPG with shallow mechanics" became commonplace, to the point of oversaturation.
Back then, our options for casual-huge RPGs were basically limited to Bethesda titles- with some rare outliers like Fable.
Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas.
Fallout 4 was the first sign that they were no longer at the peak.
Everyone I knew at the time considered the game a disappointment- very reminiscent of what happened with Starfield recently.
We all played it and were really enjoying ourselves for the first few hours, but it rapidly started wearing-off as we peeled back the layers to find nothing underneath.
(I'm well-aware that this wasn't the general sentiment, but this was the experience I shared with my friends back then)
Now, we have Starfield releasing in a world where there's no end to the options we have for accessible RPGs.
We have Cyberpunk 2077, we have the Far Cry games with those RPG-progression elements, the more recent Assassin's Creed games took on an RPG persona, we have Obsidian creating direct competition with Bethesda's "first-person fantasy RPG" style with Avowed (even though they lie and say that they're *not* trying to do that), we have the Borderlands franchise, we have survival-RPGs like Conan: Exiles or Ark, we have Dragon's Dogma, we have Middle-Earth: Shadow, we have South Park tie-in RPGs that are *actually fun*, we have YAKUZA games turning into RPGs!!!
Bethesda no longer exists in a world where making something with "the most broad appeal in the industry" will work.
We have been absolutely blessed in the past decade with RPGs appealing to every genre and sub-genre imaginable.
In the modern landscape, a game developer casting too wide a net often finds their catch is just a sea of mixed reviews.
The Yakuza PSP RPGs are better than Starfield 😂
@@arostwocents GTA: Chinatown Wars was a better RPG than Starfield. XD
I agree. Also want to add my observation that the longer it takes to make a game, like, say Starfield, Concord, or Skull&Bones, the easier they are to be out of touch of the current gaming landscape upon release, as these gaming failures have shown.
@@huantruonginh2946 Absolutely- the fixation on appearance over EVERYTHING else plays a big part in that.
How long did Bethesda spend on their "amazing new lighting technology, that bends light as it enters the atmosphere of a planet", only for their NPCs to look ten years out-of-date?
seriusly? for you far cry 6 and cyberpunk are rpg-like? do you even have played some REAL rpg?
Starfield is so demanding but the game looks like it was released in 2015.
lets be honest here trash the game all you want it certainly isnt good but saying it has 9 year old dated graphics just isnt true
Complete nonsense to be debating graphic fidelity when the game's systems and structure is what is so woefully terrible.
@@DutchThriceman Horizon zero dawn, god of war, RDR2, middle earth shadow of war, thise games look monumentally better, and play astronomically better
That's because Bethesda has this weird habit of hiring fresh-faced, inexperienced developers. On top of having only a few hundred developers compared to the thousands that other similar companies have.
And then they try to make these giant groundbreaking games with that small inexperienced team.
They're essentially a large indie company pretending to be a AAA one.
It's because they're using an ancient game engine that runs on their morrowind code base. It doesn't matter if they "revamped" the engine X times, still the same code base.
To me, there is NO hope now. After Emmmiillll the "writer" came out and says he "thinks" Slopfield is their bestest game evvvaaarrrr. Tells me SLOPRIM, SLOPPY SCROLLS is ...on the way.
Emil is their primary issue, the guy can't write. The dialogue in Bethesda games is god awful, the quests are basic and worst of all he dosen't grasp the IPs he's writing for so most of the lore is nonsensical and themed after irrelevant crap he's into (lovecraft, bladerunner etc).
Wouldn’t “Elder Slop” work better there?
The Elder Slop VI: Hammerslop
"It's gamers fault for high expectarions"
Damn. If only they didn't have over a decade to make a game with the expectations of it not being broken piles of shite. My bad Todd. I want ES6 but I'll wait another 6 months for the rot to be pointed out.
Yeah it’s like saying it’s like saying my yeah I didn’t have high expectations for my kids so I gave up on them now all they do is smoke weed and are a twitch streamer to one person and that one person is them….
That's why Bethesda games are getting worse, they will never take criticism seriously, instead blaming the players for not "getting it". ES6 will either be very mediocre or just bad.
After Starfield, Elder Scrolls 6 is going to fail miserably.
They are in too deep, changing the entire design now would be almost impossible.
Exactly, When Starfield came out and even years before Fallout 76 and "it's release disaster," Bethesda has lowered the bar tremendously.
Im waiting ES6 a lot. And enjoying Starfield in meantime, new dlc is even better and maybe more coming in the future. For me i want only more difficult and content.
I lost hope after Fallout 4.
You would need competent programmers to do that.
Man, how hard is it to make an elder scrolls game for Bethesda. It’s all they know! I don’t even care about graphics, just make a cool open world with interesting creatures, magic, companions. They just have to focus on the important elements, not some random bullshit. If the graphics are the same as Skyrim it’s good enough for me 😂
The downfall of the BBB, Bethesda, BioWare, and Blizzard.
They are as corrupt as the other BBB
Bugisoft, Sony...
I mean, the actual Better Business Bureau can be thrown in there too - they suck. :P
Forgot Bungie son
Ubisoft
Bethesda is dead. And probably it was dead after TES5
Pretty much when ESO released.
Bethesda was on top of the world until late after FO4 in 2015. As good as the game was (and it was good despite the direction they seemed to be following since skyrim/oblivion and sold extraordinarily well), it was a sign of what was coming. TESV to FO4 were their golden, untouchable years. People thought they were incapable of not releasing absolute bangers despite the concerning signals, and so did the execs
I like your picture
Fallout 4 was pretty good.
Even Fallout 4 had major problems with RPG mechanics and replay value
It is not the engine that will make it fail, it is the fact that they are catering to critics and not players.
No, I think part of it is that they are also listening to console players. A lot of console players were supportive of the Anniversary Edition and FO4 Next-Gen update, even with all the issues they caused. They bought the multiple releases of Skyrim, and praised Fallout 4. And I’m sure more copies of BGS games were sold on console than PC. Considering how many console players have low expectations and are easily pleased, Bethesda has been catering to them with the knowledge that they can afford to lose the PC audience.
@@waterloo32594 man. I'm so happy I don't think this way lol. I don't know why your blaming the console players for an incompetent company actions. You do realize that not all console players are fanboys that just eat up slop right? The next gen update was universally hated among all platforms. With the only players actually able to run the update being the most top of the line PC's. It was bethesda's incompetent actions and greed that costed their downfall, not console players. You do realize that PC players fall for the bethesda magic too right? Cause it'd be pretty ignorant to believe that only console peasants are to blame for the garbage bethesda has been releasing when it's the bethesda fanboys to blame.
@@CJS3637_MforAone I see you lack reading comprehension. See sentence 1 “No, I think part of it is that they are also listening to console player.”
Furthermore, everyone who supports the updates that I PERSONALLY have run into say, when asked, that they are console players. A lot of people that I PERSONALLY have interacted with they like starfield, or that think fallout 4 was really good, was console players. A lot of the design decisions Bethesda has made in Skyrim, FO4, FO76, and Starfield, have large support from the console side of the player base. So from where I sit, looking at the Bethesda forums and the pro Bethesda channels, especially when Emil implies that Bethesda doesn’t look at or take criticism seriously and so wouldn’t be looking elsewhere for ideas or feed back, I can say that PART of the problem is the console players.
I wish I could be as naive as you are when it comes to modern entertainment business practices and the casual consumer, but as some who’s job requires dealing with 400+ people everyday form all walks of life, I’m quite sure that I’m right. The consoles are part of the problem. And I’m not the first to say this, as it has been pointed out for every Bethesda release starting with Skyrim.
I see you lack reading comprehension. See sentence 1 “No, I think part of it is that they are also listening to console player.”
Furthermore, everyone who supports the updates that I PERSONALLY have run into say, when asked, that they are console players. A lot of people that I PERSONALLY have interacted with they like starfield, or that think fallout 4 was really good, was console players. A lot of the design decisions Bethesda has made in Skyrim, FO4, FO76, and Starfield, have large support from the console side of the player base. So from where I sit, looking at the Bethesda forums and the pro Bethesda channels, especially when Emil implies that Bethesda doesn’t look at or take criticism seriously and so wouldn’t be looking elsewhere for ideas or feed back, I can say that PART of the problem is the console players.
I wish I could be as naive as you are when it comes to modern entertainment business practices and the casual consumer, but as some who’s job requires dealing with 400+ people everyday form all walks of life, I’m quite sure that I’m right. The consoles are part of the problem. And I’m not the first to say this, as it has been pointed out for every Bethesda release starting with Skyrim.
And woke people
People have been playing Skyrim for 15 years. If TES6 is just Skyrim again, in a different location, it's going to be an absolute shit storm of backlash. They better innovate in key areas, like combat for example, but I don't think they will. In fact, given that the melee combat in Starfield is the same as the melee combat in Skyrim, I don't think they're capable of innovation.
It will be far worse than Skyrim, only with better graphics (but probs a worse art style)
honestly if TES6 is just Skyrim again in a new location and high res graphics, the backlash wont be as bad as the likely outcome that TES6 will be worse than Skyrim, hell even potentially worse than Starfield just based on bethesda's release pattern of "make every game worse than the last"
Are they actually trying to kill their company off? Seems like it tbh…
Frankly if you expect it to be half as good as Skyrim, your expectations are already too high.
5:10- WTF is this guy talking about ? with Baldur's gate 3 Larian did what they already done with Divinity Original Sin 1 & 2, they just refined their craft even more, but everything was already there before BG3, so i'm not worried about their next game which will most likely be another great title if they keep on the same trajectory; I just expect Larian to make Larian games. I'm way less confident about Bethesda and their ability to pull a good game (not even better than that) out as they went downhill a long time ago; after Skyrim TBF.
Dudes stupid. Larian focuses on their own passion and what they want to do, they shouldn't even be part of a discussion that concerns toxic game companies, they're far away from that. He should shut his mouth fr.
Literally couldn't agree more, this was a refining of their age long craft. I am SO excited for the next DoS game, lovely series with exceptional lore and some of the deepest role-playing mechanics found among games. They are a shining beacon of advocacy for traditional RPGs
I recently did get DOS2, it's my first Larian game.
Until Emil is fired and entirely removed from any BGS project, Bethesda is doomed. That POS is so smug about his latest shit ball that is the shattered space 'dlc' he refuses to take any criticism and believes his shit (ball) doesn't stink and is in fact smelling of fresh baked cookies and brownies.
Dudes a joke and will end BGS's career.
Dude! You're not kidding about the Shattered Space DLC. It broke my heart. It had so much potential and it ended so abruptly... it was so damn short. Emil needs to go... into a woodchipper, in the middle of nowhere. That dude is just frustrating.
@@shanehaworth6090 emil should be blacklisted from ever being a main writer of any game studio ever again he's plain terrible as a writer (fallout 4's practically 2 endings prove it,either institute go boom,or not and you kill the bos and railroad,ofc you can kill the bos and railroad independently,yet that doesn't change that 3 of the 4 faction endings make the institute go boom unless you join the institute and yk)
Larian didn't "come out of nowhere" they've been making the divinity series which are some of the best rpgs ever made they were always on the map you guys were just too busy being distracted by mid games
Spicy comment, but true
Most players are casual RPG players that haven't played a hardcore rpg in their life. Their standards are very low and they may even be overwhelmed with real RPG systems, interesting characters, good stories, consequences with your choices and a complex combat system.
Bethesda didn't release a good game since over a decade and is completely incompetent. The casuals get bored too and don't want the same slop with a different coat everytime. They have work and a family now and aren't willing to spend their time with an average or below average game.
They expected Larian to still be AA, hell even Mircosoft though BG3 would be a AA mid game, yep you read that right lol 😆
Fr, dude is one of those casual plebs who only hop in what's trendy or something and values games based on how popular it is. He should keep Larian out of his mouth.
I just recently got DOS2, it's my first Larian game.
There is no ES6 hype anymore. I think most of us know BGS can't pull it off and it will suck.
So tell me what’s crazy was I was 20 years old when fallout 4 came out, so I will be nearly 40 years old when the next fallout comes out. I was a sophomore in high school when Skyrim came out and I’ll be like 32 years old when the next elder scrolls comes out. That’s just wild to me.
Bro im already hitting 44 when it comes out and most of them are dudds, my ps4 broke and im not even considering buying a ps5 think ill upgrade my laptop or get a reasonable pc...
Gta5 was ok but i still think it was smaller story wise than with all the gay Tony addons and stuff on the older gta ....
Im afraid gta6 will be shit as well, they already have the strong female protagonist..... Dont mind if they include gay prides as long as you have the option to run them over! Lmao!
Used to love.rome Total War but they f..ked that up 2... Guess the og programmers are getting 2 old for this shit and its not there fight anymore.
Stop reminding me of my mortality lol. I will also be ancient by the time they come out with their next mainline game.
Damn
Wow my reaction got deleted?
@@LordEha Dont worry lad, over half the youtube commenters are shadowbanned by now. I can't even count how many times my comments were deleted for seemingly no reason.
Bethesda's problem with making games is not "how to meet players' expectations". It's "how can we slip in as many monetizations without the player noticing?"
How can we... get away with something.....
How? Skyrim and Fo4 had basic dlc.
Lay off whatever you're smoking
@@Digger-Nick Dude they monetized the modding of Skyrim again in 2023. If you don't know things, better don't waste any air.
@@user-rn3mh2jq1h You paying for something that is free is not our problem
Starfail is just showing us how little Bethesda can get away with actually producing. They're just learning how far they can drop the bar. That's it.
15 year wait and it's going to be a dumpster fire. Well done Bethesda. This will be the nail in the coffin for them.
Let that sink in.
6 Years. Since you've seen a CGI clip of Elder scrolls 6, that literally showed you nothing. And Bethesda _still_ hasn't came out with anything yet. I'm sorry, but that takes a true mastery skill in incompetence.
Recipe for TES6 success:
1. Hand made detailed world no bigger than Skyrim's (no procedural generation crap)
2. Less loading screens (fine, I can take loading between world to buildings if that is necessary)
3. Memorable and fun well written characters and companions (modders did those for skyrim, so it's possible)
4. True RPG mechanics with stats and actual personality for your character (less streamlined gameplay)
5. No forced DEI and far left propaganda
Loading screens should be reserved for when you travel to a completely different world space, like from Skyrim to Solstheim or Sovngarde.
@@TheZeroSbr I agree.
Maybe another one
6. Create a game world that feels as if it exists even without you playing it. Like the Witcher 3.
7. Their engine is too old, i think it sucks. Graphics look to dated and to similar to their other games. They claim they need it, makes no sense since other game world like cyberpunk excists. Or the new witcher game will use UE5.
8. A great music score like the scrolls games music composed by Jeremy Soule.
9. And yes like you said true RPG mechanics. Not the dumbed down stuff that has been happening. But ah wel this will never happen. Thing like being able to create a crazy spell that makes you jump a mile high.
Basically , kinda follow the production value?
I really think they should go more heavy on the RPG elements
Better npcs and lives
Handmade environments
And of course , JEREMY SOULE
I know one thing, I’m not buying it until reviews come out. I haven’t bought a Bethesda game since the day I bought Skyrim and Fallout 4 together, and so far that’s worked out great for me
To put it in context we would be on elder scrolls 8-9 in 2026 if Bethesda retained the 3-4 year release schedule.
Honestly I think Bethesda should sell off fallout and elder scrolls if they are so confident with starfield.
Nah, sell off Fallout to somebody else competent and open source The Elder Scrolls.
@@DerpyRedneckthey would never it’s all they have left 😂
They’ll drag those IPs to the grave before open sourcing it
Also Todd has SAID that , " they take very little out of their games". Yeah, yeah the...little things like, spell selection, character customization, rpg elements. You know the...little things.Yet they'll leave things in their games like, kid in a fridge or the password for the railroad is RAILROAD. How HARD did you "work" to come up with THAT one?
They vastly downgraded Morrowind to just an island from the original plan of the whole province, cut out the entire Imperial Council questline from Oblivion and took an axe to the civil war so it wouldn't 'distract from the main plot'
In a game that is built on nothing but distractions from the main plot
I’ve never played fallout, wtf is with that password 🤣🤣🤣💀💀
Without question, they'll fail. No talent left at Bethesda. Worst investment Microsoft ever made, ZeniMax sold it at the perfect time.
6 billion dollars down the drain…
why would they make good game when they can release skyrim for the 10th time and ppl positively reward them for their decisions. Not to mention bethesda games were almost always been mid, Morrowind was something truly new but since then it was recycling and simplyfiyng. And because fans are no longer fixing their shit it is what it is
I still don't understand why normies were praising anniversary edition, like wtf my single player game got useless updates every month cause of it yet people were praising them
@@MGrey-qb5xzmost of the people praising the anniversary edition were console players, and as simple minded console peasants they didn’t care. A few actually told me it’s my fault for playing with mods, and that I should just buy the “creations”. Same with FO4s “next gen update”, at least until these peasants realized that the update broke their games too.
Honestly, half the issues with Bethesda is because of console players, who as simple minded consumers with low standards they buy the creations and pre order each release and most of them will defend the games.
Edit: this is just my experience dealing with people who supported the updates, and it was mostly on 2 channels, Juicehead and MrMattyPlays.
@@waterloo32594 I'm a console player and i was forced to delete my install cause it kept bloating and downloading over and over on my ssd. There are TOO many mods on the market to justify a PERMANENT install from bugthesda's handouts
@@waterloo32594 It isn't only console, but Bethesda fans that think they can't do no wrong. I have the anniversary collection of Skyrim on PS4, but that's on console, I also have the legendary edition on 360, I don't support paid for mods since they're a lower quality than what a modder can actually do and you get better content for it. Creation mods should be free and be given community feedback on how they could be improved upon, it took years just for some creations to actually be good in Skyrim and have a good quest line behind it, but it's too little, too late and they still cost $6-$10 each, with a bit more money you can buy an Indie game that offers you a new experience and give you hours of gameplay and new content over a creation that can be finished in 1-3 hours at most while that Indie game could last 6-10 hours and you get more of your money's worth out of it.
@@waterloo32594 his has a really gross "oh... poor people" vibe, and while there's some truth in that hardcore and casual players are different, and console is more approachable and therefore more likely to be casual, I don't know how many people will be able to look past the nasty attitude to see it.
console players aren't the same as mobile game players XD
Almost none of the devs that made Skyrim will be making TES6, especially in similar development roles that they had. They will have hired a bunch of college kids who have never made successful video games. They will shove a bunch of woke corporate nonsense into the game. My guess is they will try to work to make the combat and graphics better, but since they don't know how to actually entertain people, it will still be boring. I can also guess that the NPCs will talk way too much like the Starfield npcs did.
This is certain. But I dont think that they will be able to complete the game.
I hope they get shut down, I hope they get taken off the corporate game fairy go round, and the loyal good devs start their own studio and somehow get the rights to Elder scrolls and Fallout.
Wayward Realms ,a spiritual successor to Daggerfall, is being made by Julian Lefay and others
Todd is a smug nerd who doesn't like any criticism and will keep bugs in a game out of spite.
he needs a swirly lmao
After Fallout 4 and Starfield, only a blind person would believe Bethesda.
fallout 4 was good and Starfield was alright
@@IcyTormentswrong. Shill
And 76. Don’t forget!
@@IcyTorments Fallout 4 was alright and Starfield was bad. (imo to me). Fallout 4 with mods is incredible and I'm hopeful Starfield might be decent with mods someday in the future (perhaps it already is, haven't looked into SF modding yet). But we can't credit Bethesda for the mods that the community makes.
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The OG devs have all left, guys. There is not much to be hopeful about.
Just waiting for the announcement that it will be locked at 30fps
If they arrogantly claim that Starfail is their best game, then it's clear they're going in that same direction with TES6. I don't think Bethesda truly knows how to make an RPG even if they tried. None of their RPGs were as complex and role-play-ish as the best RPGs out there, possibly not even Morrowind. May the TES and Fallout IPs rest in peace, such a shame.
nah, morrowind was the bomb back in the day, to bad to many are to stupid to get complex stat systems and the like, so bethesda started dumbing things down.
I have lost all hope in Bethesda since Fallout 4 and how they treated it. No coming back. They are done.
Same here.
I remember being a sophomore in High school and being so hyped for Fallout 4. My naive self actually thought they would build upon the rpg mechanics of New Vegas.
Most of the games I had the most fun this last couple of years were all games that came out "out of nowhere" with no marketing, no trailers, and no 6 years prior teasers. The irony is that one of them was from Bethesda themselves with HiFi Rush, being aware it was a 3rd party studio, which M$ then decided to have the "genius" move of shutting them down.
Hype builds up preorder sales, but it also builds up extreme expectations which become impossible to satisfy. Expectations of which I now give for granted to be disappointing, due to the constant burns the AAA market has provided me for so long. I think it's some good 4 years that I don't buy any AAA at all, give AA a chance only after they got released, and focusing my trust almost entirely on indie games.
Bethesda should attempt to bring out a genuinely good RPG (not TES. A different IP created ad-hoc) out of nowhere, with no announcements or trailers, and see how it goes, to build up some trust back. To me, seeing "20 years in the making" or teasers of something coming in "203X" only means "overbloated project which faced/is facing endless development hell". It is NOT something to brag onto.
Like you said with "endless development hell" ...They cant efficiently manage their current size as proven by either projects and witnesses. No matter the project if they just continue with their "bioware" magic nothing will change. They tried to bring out a genuinely "good rpg" with starfield and even looking back at the marketing it was nothing groundbreaking... They expanded without ever having a plan on how to continue.
The problem with a new IP can be seen with Starfield vs ES and FO. Both older IP were created long ago, by men much more creative and imaginative (and probably more intelligent) then the current crop at BGS. These creatives are long gone. It’s why older fans hate modern BGS games, as Todd and co rip out, retcon, and blatantly ignore old lore, replacing it with unimaginative, boring, contradictory, or even nonsensical new lore. Look at Starfield’s lore, and how bland and sanitized it is compared to even FO4 and ES5.
I think these studios get stuck on one type of game, and don't consider which format suits the game. There's still a decent segment of people who like turn based JRPG or CRPG games, so bethesda should lean in that direction with heavy dialogue and an immersive story. Even if its more linear it would play to the strengths of TES detailed world building and fleshed out locations.
Dragonquest 8 is a fantastic JRPG and a TES game in that vein would be great.
they seem to be doing just the exact same game, with a different skin again and again, and frankly they lose features with each installment.
I think ES6 will suck because it *WON'T* have the following:
1. Dark Souls like combat or Witcher 3 style combat or just improved combat in general over ES5.
2. Lame relationship system like Starfield where you can only romance 5 characters most of which are dudes and mid females except for Andreja.
3. Improved magic system. It's more than likely they'll reuse Skyrims magic system and we won't be able to spellcraft like in Oblivion.
4. A compelling story and side stories.
5. more armor slots and customization of armor in detail.
6. Day 1 creation kit access to make mods immediately.
I hope I'm very wrong. Also to any naysayers on certain things above being possible, Mods have done all of the above to ES5.
Arkane Studios made a better combat system than Skyrim and Dishonored 1 released a year later after Skyrim.
The answer is simple, if Emil Tortilla writes the quests it’s gonna be generic slop.
Lmao. 😂😂 tortilla
It wouldn't actually be that hard to live up to skyrim. Its a super old ass game that they have had all the time in the world to improve upon. It will have been 2 generations of game consoles. they simply should just cease to exist as a game company if they can't improve on it. modders have already remade this game over and over, there is simply no excuse. Its actually so baffling that a company with millions of dollars at it's disposal manages to fail in every category of making a good game nowadays. All the resources one could ever ask for and they STILL just come up with complete dogshit. Truly embarrassing and the leadership should ALL be fired for putting such trash out onto the world!
Bethesda is doing the Tool release schedule with none of the passion or love
Todd: Here in 2026 We're proud to release Elder Scrolls VI: Skyrim 2 Anniversary Edition
Games are taking longer because they arent working on them. They pivoted to milking monetizing, especially mobile, to increase valuation for the MS acquisition. Also Todd himself said its good to miss things. Just an excuse to fabricate scarcity so ESO and FO76 are the only options for casuals (or rebuying older games). All of them hamfisted with MTXs - selling "solutions" to the problems they created.
Horrible example with Larian. That interviewer was a complete moron - Larian had already had enormous critical and popular acclaim before BG3, thanks to... y'know, the game that ACTUALLY put them on everyone's radar: Divinity Original Sin 2.
Anyway, most of the issues you stated you were explicitly worried about are due to the game's engine by the way. So, until they rectify that issue, then yes the aforementioned issues will still be present in future titles such as ES6.
Bethesda won't do RPGs, simple because they don't have the drive for it.
Class buff/debuffs, racial buff/debuffs, special abilities for race/class, special enchantments for race/class, min-maxing, height, speed, specific racial/class/faction hidden quests and tying that all together with non class/racial elements to form a actual RPG.
Todd: You might have to upgrade your PC.
Me: Todd. Have you ever heard of Unreal Engine...
The fact they keep calling Stanfield a good and forcing it like it's skyrim or fallout. That kills hype for me. If elder scolls is ass thier not gonna admitted to it
Bethesda simply changing or upgrading their engine will not help I personally think... even going to unreal engine. I can think of tons of bad unreal engine games... its in the process and the rush / crunch time culture Bethesda gets stuck in.. playing with ideas , changing and restarting projects and than running short on time and rushing it out. Having a clean clear vision is Bethesda's biggest problem.
Shattered space feels like a cut faction questline . They did it that way because its something people already paid for... ... just did it to cover a pre order promise.
Larian has BEEN on the map for years! Divinity 2 was their Magnum Opus that is why BG3 is what it is. It's a failure on your part to say they were a nobody until BG3. D&D is the biggest TTRPG of all time. What makes you think they would pick a nobody company to develop their dream?
I remember one company putting a huge emphasis on Metacritic scores with the release of New Vegas...
From the beginning I realized that The Elder Scrolls VI would be very difficult if not impossible to match The Elder Scrolls V because they put a MASSIVE amount of quality and effort into making The Elder Scrolls V for it's time, and for VI to match V, let alone exceed it, a level of quality and effort unheard of in the gaming industry would be needed. When the trailer rolled out, I was like, "That's it?", and when Starfield was finally released, I lost absolutely all hope whatsoever for a matching sequel to the Elder Scrolls VI.
Cut your losses now, The Elder Scrolls VI IS NOT going to be worth it.
Bethesda learned nothing from starfield and they'll do it again with the elder scrolls 6
It's a bit of a shame in and of itself that a judgment can be made based on something that has not been released. Very often, complaining about the fact that it takes too long before a game is released leads to disappointment upon release, while trying to rush releases compromises its quality, after which complaints manifest over just how badly it turned out.
Some people enjoy aspects of the new Bethesda games; some do not. If a game isn't targeted toward the likings of one group, that doesn't mean it won't appeal to others.
Neutral, Bethesda is toeing a tight line. The time they take between releasing The Elder Scrolls VI, TES6, anticipation among their fans could go unrealistically high-a level where it could be almost impossible for Bethesda to meet such expectations. On the other hand, rushing TES6 will result in a low-quality game where mismanagement will open them to criticism both by fans and detractors alike. No matter how the game will turn out, there are still instances of negativity that cannot be avoided, be it from people who did not like their previous titles or people who are nitpicky with the new release.
It's interesting to note that even Skyrim was a moderately detailed game and didn't need a very powerful computer to operate. That made it more accessible to almost anyone. It probably contributed to its high sales and popularity. For many, maybe this was their first game-a new experience that felt like a breakthrough at that time. Of course, this is just my speculation.
Very well said! Also the Hate fad for TH-cam clicks or X is also I huge reason so many good games recieve as many good reviews as bad but you don't see the good ones unless you look. No game will or can ever be for every gamer and made exactly how they want, seems very short sighted for gamers to expect that. If you didn't like the past Bethesda games move on already, stop trying to make them change to what you want, your not the target audience. I love all there games, shocking I love Starfield too wow! How is that possible?? Easy it is 75% just like all there other games but with better graphics, and more spread out locations, also has loading screens like ALL there other games too but if you played those on Xbox 360 or PS3 you know the loading times for entering buildings or dungeons was way way longer. In Starfield there what 3-5 seconds. My only expectation is I want them to stay true to Bethesda games and not change too much, graphics will be better like Starfield, all they need is more crafted locations, quest, NPC's/followers and story that are all bigger than Skyrim. I loved the combat in Vanilla Skyrim, do not like MCO or souls like combat. Either way I will love it for what they create not what I want as I am not making there game.
The expectations are only unreachable because all the talented devs have left the building. Bethesda is sadly enough gone.
Do you guys realize they have just been making a reiteration of morrowind with a different coat of paint all these years?
Yup. And each time, they make the game simpler, dumber, and more poorly written.
Bro... they've just been cutting mechanics and depth from their games since Morrowind.
Dogshit take. Morrowind - Oblivion and Skyrim are quite distinct from each other, Morrowind for one has far deeper RPG mechanics in skills, combat greatly different etc.
If only...
@@Lerbrandt Awesomewind.
"I wonder if the same design philosophy will work in a game slated to release in 2026"
It didn't even work in a game that released in 2023: starfield. Starfield felt like a total conversion mod for skyrim. Nothing more. And certainly not worth $70. ES6 will release at $70 or higher, and i'll happily wait until it and it's over priced under delivering DLC all bundle together for around 30 bucks.
it is impossible to live up to players expectations, the goal should be to get as close to it as possible
My headcannon of Bethesda peaking with Morrowind comes truer everyday.
I Never ran Elder Scrolls Online hardcore but I would go to Morrowind in ESO and rock down fighting vampires outside the gates of Solitude. What I am saying is you can go to Seyda Neen in ESO because ESO has been the living Elder Scrolls game for the past 10 years,
Game teasers aren't for us gamers. They're for the studio to attract talent. "Hey, we're working on this game. Come join us and help!"
bro, I gave up on this company a LONG time ago, they have fumbled majorly, waiting nearly two decades to make a sequel is possibly the lazies stupidest thing I've ever heard. Their entire audience is completely different now. I just wish their customers would STOP buying their games and make them pay.
I, for one, am really glad they chose to announce the Elder Scrolls VI logo in Skyrim.
Looking at every major game dev and major game series lately, my hopes arent high.
For me writing on the wall was there since Fallout 4 came out. I still sort of enjoyed Skyrim and mods really helped pull it out of the “meh” hole. Even still, mechanically it felt like a downgrade from Oblivion. And playing Failout 4 after New Vegas felt like going from navigating a great flowing river to splashing in a kiddie pool.
I don’t care about graphics or bugs. Those are the easiest things to fix. I powered through both New Vegas and Cyberpunk’s bugs on release, no complaints. What I care about is captivating story, decisions and consequ, mechanical depth and replayability. All of the things Bethesda outright refuses to engage with.
Idk what “sky-high expectations” this dude was talking about. I expect TES6 to be uninspired and mediocre dumbed down slop
It’s their fault that Elder Scrolls six is going to be so bad. The longer the wait, the higher the expectations that fans are going to have for the game. But they won’t get anywhere close to fan expectations, and the game will fail
Starfield taking 8 years is insane, that game is boring and lacks many things great about their previous games
it had to have taken 5 years just to get spaceships to function as much as they do
They hired new employees that's why
They will fail because one why bother pushing yourself when your fans will improve your games for free and you can charge them for their own work and two Bethesda is so reliant on its modding community to improve/ fix their games they no longer know how to create their own content just look at skyrim 2016 was the last time they added new meaningfull content the rest have been money grabs with little content added by themselves so I have zero expectations for elder scrolls 6 just release it so we the community can start turning it into the game it should've been
Todd if he was being honest: Just wait, Elder scrolls 6 will have companions that are only good guys and will dislike the way you talk, the way you walk, the way you breathe. It will also have the player character leading every single faction in the game in 3 missions(gotta keep the casuals happy). It will have 5000 loading screens just to enter and leave a small house. It will have: Shitty first person and even shittier third person combat(mods will fix it teheee :P ). It will have the most generic good guy vs bad guy story imaginable with fetch quests all over the place to bloat the game time.
I was thinking about this yesterday, and I feel like we can expect another Skyrim remaster before ES6 comes out.
I would say to expect to see Skyrim ported into the ES6 engine with some minor feature enhancements and visual upgrades, and that will happen to offset costs of development for ES6.
and then ES6 will suck.
Skyrim with the current modding scene will do more than fine for me.
@@huantruonginh2946The modding scene was the only reason Skyrim was relevant for so long.
@@DieEineMiezethe ONLY reason
Lets look at Oblivion, Skyrim and now starfield. Every newer game had shorter and shorter quest lines. every game had more and more fillers. Oblivion you had to work to get into some guilds. Skyrim, can I join... no problem.. Starfield what guilds... Quest lines themselves, Oblivion would take a day or three, Skyrim a day, starfield a few hours. They have found its cheaper and easier to make short quests lines and then fill the rest of the game with one offs like Starfield is.
then looks at the worlds. Oblivion had thousands of characters with a full day night cycle, duties would talk randomly to people even though that part did become a meme. Skyrim's was hundreds of characters with half the characters with a day night cycle. And Starfield had nothing.
The quality of Elder Scrolls 6 hangs on the quality of talent pool at the current Bethesda... it isn't looking good.
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As for the loading times. Have you ever played games on Sinclair ZX Spectrum or Commodore C64? They used compact cassette as a medium (the thing people used to listen audio from). The game itself would take 15 minutes to load. After the game is loaded, splash screen will appear with message: "press fire (on Joystick) or "Enter/Return". After hitting the button or key, the level starts to load. cca, another ~5 minutes (per level mind you). While loading, the screen goes into psychedelic trans with sound of a dial up model the whole time (establishing line with the ISP). This was unavoidable part of THE gaming back in the '80s to early '90s.
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As long as Emil Pagliarulo stays within BethesdaGS, don't expect good quality games ever again.
And the creator of the Universe Lore's of Elderscrolls universe is out. And Jeremy Soule (Master who create the best songs of Skyrim is out too).
Expectations been sky high is one thing. The ability to execute on those sky high expectations is something different entirely. For me, I don’t have any high expectations that Bathesda can deliver as it’s rather disappointingly low. How they perform at executing their last game tells me everything I need to know about their next game.
I pray to god that i can comment that this video aged like milkk
2026??!! I’m gunna be homeless and half to trade my Xbox for a crack rock by then
Edit:all Bethesda has to do is make the same exact game with the engine they used in starfeild with a new map🤷
Already know TES 6 is gonna be trash wish they would just remaster morrowind and oblivion instead
Fans have already done that
I hope they don’t do the same thing with elder scrolls like they did to fallout series. Everything after skyrim and new vegas is boring there is no reason to play. I never played starfield and i will never do that. Rip fallout franchise fallout 4 isn’t a fallout game my opinion
Six years? Jesus Christ.
These past six years wasn’t easy for me. I lost my mother, my grandmother, my father not being an active father. These greedy corporations are already getting on my last nerve.
After Fallout 4 Bethesda has really Shat the bed, and continues to do so...
They are spouting off that Starfield is by far the best game they have ever made....Yea...they sure are learning from this. not only that, but its been how long? And Skyrim and fallout 4 are still not fixed, and if you get the mods that fix the games...You get no achievement points.
Since No Man's Sky I haven't pre-ordered any games since and waiting on reviews before I make the decision.
Its going to be bad, Skyrim is a mediocre game , its fun but bad. Everything Bethesda has released has been bad.
This. Skyrim was good for its time but since than we’ve had way better rpgs. Starfield proves they’ll never catch up.
9 years of the making just to skyrim have more players than the new game, yeah, depressing! Zero hopes for TES 6
Skyrim was so good. They are just not in a position to live up to it.
yeah, Skryim and Fallout 4 are peak. They're dropping the ball, but Starfield is still better than most games out there. ES6 may be ok as long as it's not DEI infested
@@glowinTHX fallout 4 peak?
Skyrim and Fallout 4 were never that good. People were praising it left and right, calling it a masterpiece, but in the last years there is more than enough critique for the stupid and boring Bethesda formula. They are incompetent and can't/won't evolve.
People tend to be nostalgic and count the hundreds of mods installed as if Bethesda should be given any credit for it.
@@DieEineMieze i mean its cliche to say "skyrim not as good as morrowind" but i am saying it. Skyrim was made for the brainrot generation that has little understanding of substance over style and will be wow'd and amazed because something looks cool, i was there in highschool when Skyrim came out having to tell people "yes elder scrolls 5 skyrim is the 5th game in a series" the consensus that "skyrim is a masterpiece" came about because of literal morons
@@DieEineMieze Just because people can critique it, doesn't mean that its not a masterpiece. Look at games made nowadays like Cyberpunk, Elden Ring and Baulders Gate 3. There is plenty to pick apart and criticize for those games but that doesn't mean they aren't masterpieces. Hell, Fallout New Vegas, a game everyone simps for can't even run half the time yet that game is considered one of the best RPGs of all time. Also "Bethesda formula" is used in all open world RPGs and frankly Skyrim still does a lot of things better then those games. The Reason BGS themselves are not pulling it off anymore is because they are devolving their design. In other words, they ruined their formula. Also I've never seen anyone credit BGS to the mods. They are 100% a part of the game though since everyone has access to them now but just because BGS didn't make them doesn't mean they don't count as part of the game.
The crazy thing is all they have to do is remaster New Vegas, and we will happily play it over the modern slob they are making
You're not wrong.
Hell, even remastering F3 or Oblivion would be great. They’d be printing money ffs.
Give it to me for free then since I already bought it twice.
Hey, but we can at least have a "non-binary," blue-haired liberal white woman cosplaying as an Altmer in ESO while we continue to wait for ES6. :D More seriously though, Bethesda has been going downhill for a long time. Even though I enjoyed Fallout 4 and Skyrim, the series peaked with Morrowind for me, and even that game had complaints of dumbing down at the time compared to Daggerfall.
Hey guys! I'm upset because my ego is hurt over assumptions I've come to over choices in a video game! Give me attention!
@@ChocolateEffigygo play concord
Dog whistle alert ⚠️ 📢
It's not Bethesda's idea. Microsoft mandates it.
Def not buying. They lost me at Fallout 76.
Until I played Fallout 4 on PS4 and XB1, I've never had a game completely crash a console before. Quite an achievement.
I’m just gonna say it, Skyrim isn’t that great. I’ve rarely desired to go back and play it. I remember I beat the main story, got 100 smithing, and 100 block/shield. It just doesn’t have that same excitement and exploration enjoyment as oblivion and Morrowind had. Also so many people judge Skyrim, based on beautiful mod changes. That wasn’t the original or developer content. When I really think back to this game, it was honestly quite stale and mundane. Every cave I explored was lifeless and empty or cookie cutter. The combat lost its luster after playing for a few hours. I genuinely am curious how I beat the game, cause any time I see video gameplay of it, I just wonder what kept me playing it as long as I did?
I still have fond memories of fallout 3 and genuinely enjoy going back to it sometimes. I really think Skyrim was the beginning of the end of Bethesda. They didn’t carry over what made quests and exploration exciting in older games .
My view on Skyrim is similar, though I have had plenty of fun with it. Skyrim is an RPG-lite cozy game that is trying to look like an epic fantasy adventure. When I just want to relax and turn off my brain, it can be fun to wander aimlessly around the world, grab all the useless loot I can find, and hoard it in chests in the player houses. It's a nice enough world to explore, but the depth of a game like Daggerfall or Morrowind simply isn't there. I recently got back into Morrowind and messed around with it a little, and it reminded me of just how much is missing from Skyrim. I think I might find some good mods, create a custom class, and play through the game again, though it might be a while since Timberborn just got a big update and I'll probably spend the next few days building beaver cities. I think I'll join House Redoran this time since, for some reason, I've never done that before. (I'm partial to House Telvanni - I like grumpy, crazy mages.) As for the next Elder Scrolls game, I think all we can expect is that it will be a decent, middle-of-the-road experience that isn't quite up to the standard of Skyrim, and that it will be polluted by an overpriced cash shop. Those who want a hard core RPG need to look elsewhere. Bethesda doesn't make those anymore.
@@heatherharrison264 friend of mine who loves Morrowind, adequately points out how he loves that the quests don’t hold your hands. The instructions can be as simple as head east past the giant tree. Skyrim gives you a path and marks it on your map, almost every cave feels the same, the combat gets so stale after enough time. Like BG3 every play through feels like a new experience with dialogue I missed last time, or characters I didn’t fully utilize in my party, different ways to approach every dialogue or combat. The npc interactions in Skyrim were so stale, versus haggling vendors in Morrowind for 10 mins until they relented. The guilds were so much more memorable in oblivion. I also laughed so much playing fallout 3 with so many niche interactions. Just felt the empty lifelessness of their open world, full of very dull experiences.
I said in a comment before, whether you like Skyrim or not, it was the beginning of Bethesda's downfall by them making rpgs more casual and simplifying the mechanics in their games as they try to sell Skyrim with a different skin. Fallout 4 is Skyrim with a different skin, Starfield is too, but with more mediocre content and empty worlds that are forgettable.
Imagine it doesn't come out as a disappointment this video would look dumb
Manage OUR Expectations? So GTA V, RDR2, Doom 2016 and Eternal, God of war 2018, Stellar blade, Black Myth Wukong, etc. All games that had less than half the time TES 6 has, and it's still going to be shit? Stop defending these people dude. They lost a long time ago.
all i want is a hand crafted beautiful land to explore with fun landmarks interesting characters and fun mechanics for es6
Not having Jeremy Soule compose the music isn't going to help one bit.
Its already a failure. Think about it if you are an investor are you going to wait 10-12 years for a return on that.
Theres long term investing then there is owning bethesda stocks.
If tes 6 is a skyrim with better graphics and animations i'm happy. Why are people so disapointed?
Because games have to evolve over past iterations. Watch GTA 6
So why wait all these years to just play a Skyrim clone? May as well just keep playing Skyrim at that point.
@@flyawayq5115 high expectations give high disapointment
@@flyawayq5115exactly
I think you will see a revival of indie rpg games that improve upon the gameplay of daggerfall, morrowind, and skyrim. That's what people really want.
"filled with far left propaganda" my fucking god, some gamers just have worms in their head.
People are hopping on that train to get views.
At first I thought the title was just to bring more views and midway he doesn't even sound that ridiculous but he just fhad to fucking say stupid shit like that at the end didn't he.
Like what is up with YTrs putting out copy paste videos that have already been made a 1000 times besides for clicks and views
It's not wrong, but neither is it more important than the fact that the games are objectively not great.
@@RedSiegfried how can something be right or wrong when the words dont mean anything? what the f is far left propaganda supposed to mean?
‘There aren’t many examples of advanced physics in the game’
Bro, every cell of this game contains dozens of objects that all have their own physics, and not only that the game remembers them even when you aren’t in the cell. You realise how nuts that is? It’s remembering the physics of an object that isn’t even rendered. Most games only really have to have the physics of the player and enemies when they ragdoll. The creation engine has to remember the physics of every single one of those sandwiches and succulents, all at once, even in a different cell. Then add that so many of those cells have different gravity settings.
Just to be clear I’m not fanboying, and the game was absolutely mid. But that aspect is insanely complicated and I take my hat off to Bethesda for it. There’s a reason why no other games really operate like that with clutter.
Dude ruined his whole video at the end. Imagine being this much of a snowflake. Men just aren't men anymore.
Used to love watching this guy but like what is he talking about?? Ugh when the FANTASY GAME has diversity like no shit bro just because it doesn’t pander to you doesn’t mean it’s “propaganda”
Honestly Fallout 3 was a major step down in quality when it comes to storytelling, There is a good reason people still play Fallout 1,2 & New Vegas while no one ever replays Fallout 3.