Three Styles of Old Time Banjo Demonstrated

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ค. 2010
  • Ever wonder what the difference is between frailing / clawhammer, drop thumb, and round peak? This is Jeremy Stephens at The Bluegrass Shack in a short video demonstrating the song Cripple Creek in three different styles. (New Athens, IL)
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  • @N0GIY
    @N0GIY 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    On the first style he was playing and looking around at the same time. When he mixes the double thumb with the drop thumb at the end, it started getting really complicated to play. I could hardly look away from the complexities on the right hand... but I noticed after a while that neither did he look away from his right hand, that looks very difficult and mind bending to play!

  • @zmoseley
    @zmoseley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    He makes it look so easy and almost looks like he's bored lol. Great playing and nice Gibson.

  • @illinoisdoug
    @illinoisdoug 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    He's a great banjo player. I could was never able to get that drop-thumb style to work and then the last style he showed was beyond comprehension.

  • @bobpoor6348
    @bobpoor6348 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hey there. Uncle Charlie Lowe was at best a shirt tail relative of Tommy Jarrell. His real nephew showed up in 1977 or 8 at the National Fiddle Championships in Wieser, Idaho. Meeting Ed Lowe was the highlight of my banjo career and he certainly had the chops that he had learned directly from Uncle Charley after he caught him messing with his banjo at a young age. At the age of 16 he was riding the running board of a Model A home with his banjo after a dance and got bucked off and the banjo broke, never to be repaired as the story went, as he entered the Merchant Marines shortly afterwards lying about his age of course. After retiring from the Longshoremen's Union in San Pedro he somehow got the urge to play the banjo again after 50+ years. He got ahold of a banjo but it had frets and he had never played with anything but a fretless. Not to worry as his neighbor was tearing off the aluminum siding from his house and Eddie snagged a bit of it, tore out the frets and glued it on the wreckage. You can see the banjo here as well as get a good sense of his ragged but right Round Top style. th-cam.com/video/F6V6KwPj2ik/w-d-xo.html There were several of us clawhammerer's there at Weiser that year that he had a real influence on as he was not only a great banjo player but a heck of a nice guy! Up at 7 every morning to shave and get to the pancake breakfast that none of us ever made.....Not to mention the cut glass pitchers of ice cold Coors at Clifford's Tavern across from the Rodeo Grounds camping venue.

    • @YoungDeathWish
      @YoungDeathWish 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey I grew up not far from weiser idaho

  • @homersimpson7960
    @homersimpson7960 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Probably the best banjo-learnin video I've seen yet, probably because he's the best at the banjo I've seen yet! He actually cuts to the chase, and then starts playing. He obviously knows the difference in styles and how it all breaks down, great job

  • @Pickinbuddy
    @Pickinbuddy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this excellent demonstration...I've always loved old-time style banjo playing.

  • @badandy880
    @badandy880 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Never understood the difference in clawhammer styles until I saw this! Great summary and fantastic playing - thanks man!

  • @pugtronix
    @pugtronix 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got my banjo about a year and ago, started out trying to learn Scruggs style, found it very hard and got very frustrated to the point that I wasn't enjoying it anymore, then I discovered Patrick Costello's daily frail vids. I've come such a long way in the last six months! I love my banjo!

  • @ChrisTalley1
    @ChrisTalley1  12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes, Jeremy does an excellent job both explaining and demonstrating!

  • @millergqgq
    @millergqgq 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just get the banjo. I got mine at age 32 and its the first instrument I ever played. This guy has obviously doing it for years, there are lots of fun and satisfying things to work through as a beginner. PAtrick Costello's beginner clawhammer lessons got me started (on TH-cam) but im sure there are other good ones too.

  • @TheRwboss6
    @TheRwboss6 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounded great...Round Peak is a very interesting style...Nice job....Thanks for posting...

  • @banjoboy55
    @banjoboy55 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good Work, Chris! I really appreciate it

  • @ChrisTalley1
    @ChrisTalley1  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's awesome! Glad that you are enjoying the banjo again!

  • @pebaker2
    @pebaker2 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Bluegrass Shack for being there!

  • @sivad2
    @sivad2 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice demonstration. Thank you.

  • @LewisBurnerPugh
    @LewisBurnerPugh 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this mate. Top job!

  • @ystorm
    @ystorm 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was meandering through amazon.com for a tuner for my fiddle and came upon the banjos (i did say 'meandering') and found this video (because i can't let a new idea alone) and i am really really impressed. am thinking that maybe i might wanna learn banjo. that has been in the back of my mind since i heard some of the awesome mumford and son tunes last year. impressive and awesome Jeremy is!

  • @OldTimeyWakefield
    @OldTimeyWakefield 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an awesome video!!!

  • @davecrandell7587
    @davecrandell7587 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great demo and explanation!

  • @librandy77
    @librandy77 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have learnt from you over the years.. thanks man🪕🪕🪕

  • @silverblaize
    @silverblaize 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such an amazing player! I hope I'll be able to reach that level of skill some day :)

  • @NicolaiM654
    @NicolaiM654 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This guy REALLY CAN PLAY THE BANJO!!! Greetings from Russia!!!

  • @freddiebishop2553
    @freddiebishop2553 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    He makes it look so easy.

  • @vincentmondello2052
    @vincentmondello2052 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Killer vid man,

  • @WorldUkulele
    @WorldUkulele 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great playing and video

  • @kevinbenader
    @kevinbenader 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    been playing banjo for several years, and never could quite figure out the clawhammer style. i been playing sort of a pre scruggs thing with just the thumb and the index. something you'd see a lot of folks doing with monroe and such, but i think i'm finally getting the clawhammer. awesome demo, down with finger picks!

  • @ChrisTalley1
    @ChrisTalley1  11 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think if you can afford some lessons and there is someone nearby to teach you, I would recommend that. You can't ask a video questions, and a video can't tell you if you are doing something incorrectly. I think videos are great, though, and are certainly very helpful.

  • @apfelsnutz
    @apfelsnutz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job !

  • @9lontoonieful1
    @9lontoonieful1 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    All of styles sound good!

  • @hotone23
    @hotone23 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    OUTSTANDING thanks

  • @zaccrogers
    @zaccrogers 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it

  • @JonathonMcClung
    @JonathonMcClung 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a five string banjo, and there is a wealth of information and music available online for it. I don't have a 4 string so I couldn't tell you much about it except it that its lowest string generally gets tuned lower so you can play some more bassy things, and 6 string banjos are basically guitars that sound like banjos.

  • @brlyderder4095
    @brlyderder4095 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I faced the same sort of problem, although I have had an early musical background ;) Consequently, picking up banjo was simple already knowing a thing or two about music. Banjo chords and scales are easy, and there is plenty of sheet music to be found on the internet of can be purchased at your local music store. Don't ever let what other people may say get in the way of you're venture; they are probably just jealous anyway!

  • @ystorm
    @ystorm 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    guitar, the gateway instrument. I like that :D

  • @ciaranturner1817
    @ciaranturner1817 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I must say, that I did love how it all sounded.. do you buy chance have a slower version of cripple creek? or maybe even the tab? thank you for sharing

  • @Razer50000
    @Razer50000 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice pickin, I fancy the moonshine jug in the hallway too!

  • @rpatt100
    @rpatt100 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Start with a banjo, . I prefer an open back for clawhammer. I started 8 months ago at age 67. I love it and you are never to old to learn

  • @ChrisTalley1
    @ChrisTalley1  10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think many people find clawhammer easier to play than 3-finger style. You should certainly give it a try if you are interested. You may discover that it is the perfect style for you.

  • @ChrisTalley1
    @ChrisTalley1  12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No matter what instrument you choose, you will have things that will be difficult for you. If your heart is set on banjo, then you should play banjo. Otherwise, you'll always be wondering where you'd be at on the banjo if you had started it first. Dive in and enjoy yourself while you learn -- bad notes and all! If you are having fun, that is all that matters!

  • @jerredchouseman
    @jerredchouseman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This guy is amazingly good!!

  • @guywolff
    @guywolff 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice playing .I always think of Clarance Tom Ashley when I see a Bow Tie Gibson ...

  • @OdditiesandRarities
    @OdditiesandRarities 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    brilliant!

  • @davidcarpenter9232
    @davidcarpenter9232 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That would give me something to work on for a while

  • @parsivalshorse
    @parsivalshorse 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really useful

  • @tbobmann229
    @tbobmann229 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    EXCELLENT!

  • @9lontoonieful1
    @9lontoonieful1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope to play like that!

  • @fingerpickinman
    @fingerpickinman 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great! Thanks

  • @ChrisTalley1
    @ChrisTalley1  10 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can play any style, but you get different sounds based on the banjo and its setup. People generally play clawhammer style on open back banjos because you get a less bright tone quality and less volume. Most clawhammer players prefer a plunkier sound. The resonator amplifies the sound of the banjo, and with a tighter banjo head, you get a much brighter sound for 3-finger style.

  • @RusnakBanjo
    @RusnakBanjo 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great playing! Round Peake N.C style? That style was also being done in West Va, and Virginia at the same time those other folks were also playing it. The term, Round Peake has become popular because some of the players doing that style were very active and were being recorded early on at the festivals that became popular with a lot of folks wanting to learn. Term infers that it started in NC...met those folks back in 60's. Wade Ward, Kyle Creed etc. Super nice folks.Wade let me play his RB-11

  • @Dobroz99
    @Dobroz99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great! Thanks so much. Is two finger style considered an old style of banjo playing? I have seen what looks like multiple styles of 2 finger playing.

    • @Tasmanaut
      @Tasmanaut 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      very much so, yes.

  • @RandySchartiger
    @RandySchartiger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what year is his banjo? I have that exact rb250 from 1956. archtop and all! great banjos!

  • @ClarkMitchell2012
    @ClarkMitchell2012 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know of a Cripple Creek tab close to what's demonstrated here?

  • @mallykilla
    @mallykilla 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I started out pickin, learned a tune or two then tried frailin, I can pick Cripple Creek but just cant seem to frail it at all. I live on an Island north of Scotland and out of 22000 people, none play the 5 String! Nice frailing by the way!

  • @ArkRed1
    @ArkRed1 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What year is that "Bowtie" Mastertone? I had one similiar to that one in 1959.

  • @DanDDirges
    @DanDDirges 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah man! Go Cat Go! Great pickin!

  • @ChrisTalley1
    @ChrisTalley1  14 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    @shal0mnurh0me Since I play 3-finger style, I've always wondered what the difference was, if any. Jeremy can play any style. When he came by the shop the other day, I asked him to show me the difference. Then I decided to video it because I knew there would be others out there wanting to know as much as I did!

  • @9lontoonieful1
    @9lontoonieful1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    This style might be best!

  • @sparkydiaz397
    @sparkydiaz397 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Niiiiccceee

  • @HiNinqi
    @HiNinqi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing! This was helpful. Do you know what kind of banjo Jeremy is playing here? (like model, and all?)
    I'm hunting for the right banjo for me (without being able to try them out at the store since there aren't any near me) and this is really helpful!

    • @ChrisTalley1
      @ChrisTalley1  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is a pre-war Gibson bowtie. I don't know exactly what year, and I don't remember if this was his banjo or not. Set up is going to be the most important thing. That will give you the best sound for that banjo and will determine how easy it is to play.

  • @AlexCopeChap
    @AlexCopeChap 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll be getting a banjo soon and just wanted to know if it's better to find lessons or learn from the web?

  • @JonathonMcClung
    @JonathonMcClung 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    It really depends on the song you're playing, but I've seen beginner stuff saying to start with the bottom four or the bottom three. So far, as a fellow clawhammer beginner, I have not seen all five strings used in a "bum ditty" strum.

  • @HiMATE626
    @HiMATE626 9 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    So random question, but what's with the wad of cash near the neck at 3.09?

    • @ChrisTalley1
      @ChrisTalley1  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have no idea what you are talking about. You must be looking at the pockets on his shorts.

    • @louiswaddle9024
      @louiswaddle9024 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No I see what you are talking about. Under the metal bar on the top side of the body

    • @ChrisTalley1
      @ChrisTalley1  9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Louis Waddle Okay, I see it now. I think it's just a dollar bill or two. Haven't you heard of the song "Long Journey Home"? The chorus says "lost all my money but a two dollar bill."

    • @HiMATE626
      @HiMATE626 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I have not, tbh my youtube surfing started no where near banjo's, it began with Node Lan Parties lol

    • @robkunkel8833
      @robkunkel8833 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Probably lunch money. I love that double drop thumb of the old guy who "died in the sixties or fifties" ...
      I could do that, I think. Not drop dead in the sixties or fifties but double drop thumb.
      Working on it...double dropped thumb...not...never mind. 🌴🎶🇻🇮 .

  • @Pooptydoopoop
    @Pooptydoopoop 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This may be off topic but was Jeremy Stephens a member in the Chuck Wagon Gang a little while ago.

  • @duerksjv
    @duerksjv 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    A question for anyone who knows their banjo: I'm a complete beginner with no musical background aside from a bit of fooling around with bass guitar when I was a teen before I got distracted from it. I dearly want to learn to play the banjo, clawhammer style specifically, but I have to admit I'm a bit intimidated by how complex of an instrument it seems to be. Should I work my way up, using the guitar as a gateway instrument, or with the proper determination and patience can I just dive right in?

  • @Superperson562
    @Superperson562 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I played guitar before I played banjo and it helps a tiny bit with left hand fretting but not that much. I would start with banjo straight away if I were you.

  • @frogbear02
    @frogbear02 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy is good o.o; XD.

  • @LadyWeasel
    @LadyWeasel 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Dad used to use an acrylic nail to protect his middle fingernail.

  • @briarroot
    @briarroot 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The fingers in "drop thumb" still strike downward, not up like Seeger, right?

    • @lilyjune69
      @lilyjune69 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah. It's exactly the same as striking the high g string. It's weird to me that he's describing these as different styles. They're just different techniques commonly used together.

  • @dalegribble60
    @dalegribble60 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *takes banjo out of closet and blows the dust off it. Watches video and puts banjo back in the closet. Sits back on couch with a big bowl of potato chips and watches TV*

  • @davesiler4064
    @davesiler4064 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whooooe.....Call it claw hammer, drop thumb, frailin' , whatever; that boy can sure pick a banjer. (Think I'll go practice up a tad longer!) Wheee dogigies, wish I could do that!

  • @hunters.5627
    @hunters.5627 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you strum up on claw hammer?

    • @ChrisTalley1
      @ChrisTalley1  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You probably already have the answer to this by now, but the answer is no. Thumb goes down and slightly out, and the fingers are bent so that the fingernail comes in contact with the strings as you strum down.

  • @danf2
    @danf2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always wanted to play a string, problem is my right arm and left arm both want 100% of my brain at the same time.

  • @Guppyg53
    @Guppyg53 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    So that's a 5 string banjo? Is that the kind I wanna play if I'm a beginner banjo player?

  • @blottermad
    @blottermad 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Patrick's stuff if Awesome!!

  • @billpilgrim1121
    @billpilgrim1121 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    holy christ dude

  • @SeanEmmettGuitar
    @SeanEmmettGuitar 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats how ya clawhammer! so many people play it so shallow, weak and lifeless. This guy really gets it, well studied.

  • @GarrettXHolder
    @GarrettXHolder 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:10

  • @etparadox
    @etparadox 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Clawhammer banjo looks a lot harder that it actually is. The chords are easier than guitar chords, the strings are lighter so are easier to press, and the playing styles are quite different from guitar. The main thing with clawhammer is that the strum initially feels really unnatural, but if you practice for a few months the strum becomes easy and after that there are only a few basic tricks to learn. Good luck!

  • @blindhowlingdrunk
    @blindhowlingdrunk 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    and....he's chewing gum
    So when you have a stroke kids, make sure there's a banjo at hand, so at least when you go down, you go down humin and strumin

  • @billdmusician
    @billdmusician 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great playing. Only problem is he's playing on a bluegrass banjo.

    • @ChrisTalley1
      @ChrisTalley1  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He didn't know I was going to ask him to do that. He plays both styles and has banjos for both styles, but this was the banjo he had with him that day. You'll just have to overlook that...

    • @billdmusician
      @billdmusician 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChrisTalley1 OK John McEuen plays old timey on his bluegrass banjo too. John is one of my fav. banjo players.

  • @thegoodtimesclub608
    @thegoodtimesclub608 ปีที่แล้ว

    Last style has too much 5th for me. Almost feel like thats all I hear. Just my opinion.

  • @johndelaney9611
    @johndelaney9611 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very impressive banjo playing but no lessons how to get there

    • @ChrisTalley1
      @ChrisTalley1  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad you enjoyed it! It was not meant to be a teaching video -- just informational.

  • @mrtattoohead
    @mrtattoohead 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kinda mostly showing off. Not real useful. So um. Yeah.

    • @davidgibb4551
      @davidgibb4551 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well this was a demo, maybe a tutorial/lesson is what you had in mind

  • @kevinbenader
    @kevinbenader 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    been playing banjo for several years, and never could quite figure out the clawhammer style. i been playing sort of a pre scruggs thing with just the thumb and the index. something you'd see a lot of folks doing with monroe and such, but i think i'm finally getting the clawhammer. awesome demo, down with finger picks!