The Ferrari Dealer wants a FORTUNE To Fix this Factory Flaw. We Fixed it in a BARN for $325!
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If you've ever wondered why so many Ferraris Catch on Fire, I can show you in just a few minutes. We then fix the Fuel Pumps on our 360 Spider so that it runs much better and is no longer a risk to drive. Also with the convertible top assembly removed we can finish up some final repairs before buttoning everything up.
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Hi Sam
Zip ties are made of nylon usually, so they're already fuel and oil resistant.
...funny
Make sure you avoid buying salvage title mattresses.
I can vouch for the Helix. I've enjoyed mine for a few years now.
Man, it’s crazy seeing Adam Sandler work on his own car.
Haha
Damn you're funny, and really original. I've only read that "joke" about 20 times over the years.
Pretty sure I was the originator of this joke.
i thought i was the only one
No what's crazy is how u think due looks anything like Adam sandler
I was waiting for you to just cut an access panel to get the pump out.
I thought that's where this was going too, just like Hoovie and his Lambo.
Go Car wizard
Top had to come off anyway to access the hydraulic pistons that need rebuilding. Never buy an exotic convertible. Nightmare.
Hole saw
That's just what I was thinking a cutoff wheel right?
That fuel pump leak was really scary. Glad you know a lot about this car to catch the problem quickly before it goes kaboom!
Ferrari's plan to make sure their cars get more rare and valuable over the years.
A "ferrari flambe" - it's a new cocktail you can order at a bar. Very very expensive and usually doesn't end well when you drink it..... :)
The "my Ferrari burned down" market was saturated by hoovie 🤣
Designed in obsolescence. :( Oh, and it is a ff-whoomp (as I learned playing with gasoline and fire as a kid).
Who doesn't know by now....DUH...
Tip*** always lube o-rings when installing them, the will twist and bunch up when dry.....
I'm shocked he didn't know this or do this.
Thats what she said
Fuel Pump ring removal tool. 18 bucks on Amazon. Safer than hammering on that collar. On the cylinder rebuilds. I'm so glad you are smart enough to know how to avoid that stupid "ferrari" tax. Repairing those cylinders is very easy and straightforward. Don't ever pay $300. Tell them it's for a ford and they will charge like $75.
So, I owned both a Porsche and a 1980s Buick. They both needed custom crimped lines made. They were similar length and I supplied the fittings. They charged $700 for the Porsche, and $250 for the Buick.
They went to all that trouble and expense of manufacturing beautiful aluminium fuel tanks that basically no owner is ever going to see under the engine bay plastics, only to save 20c on materials for the pumps and have them burn the car down. Thats some real Business 101 shit right there!
Yeah for the cost of new ferrari it pump should have been done from aluminium.
The Pinnacle of Italian design and engineering.
Italian business is extremely nepotic, so the shitty pumps are probably from a close friend or relation of whoever was making the decisions. Also probably why they kept using them for years and years despite knowing they were a serious hazard.
@Freiherr Dinckelacker Never said they were Italian, just that as is often the Italian way, they might have been supplied by someone with connections. Supply is not the same as manufacture. Who knows, just been my experience with Italian business people, that questionable decisions can often be traced to nepotism. Bosh of course, is German crap.
Enzo says your buying the engine, not the car
Brilliant video Sam. Now, I hope you're also planning on replacing the rollover valves. They also have a 10-20 year lifespan, and will leak fuel. Even the late model 360 Spiders have to have the capote top removed to replace them.
"Fuel is actually petroleum-based . . . " . . . Sam, this is exactly why I love watching your channel. This is the kind of inside information you would never get anywhere else! Best to you!
Doubt you knew that before watching, boomer
The Mercedes R230s have the same type of hydraulic cylinders. There are guides online on how to take them apart and swap the seals. They are not only orings. Basically you would have to drill little holes into the side of the cylinder at the same height where these circlips are. Then depress them through that hole so you can take them out. The hard part comes when reassembling, though. The teflon piston seals are a bit finniky to get back inside as their diameter is slightly larger than the bore. Its the same kind of problem you have, when putting pistons into an engine block. A Tool in needed to compress the piston rings...
Thanks for the link.
I would've cleaned the area around the fuel-pump just to make there's as little dirt entering the system as possible.
sleepysnoot - My thought exactly!
Low risk of dirt entering but i would have done it anyways.
Good point 👍
Me too, I would also write the day of the fuel pump replacement on the pump with a sharpie.
@@keithbrookshire He should have completely drained the fuel tank and welded the date inside of there too...
Thanks for teaching us how to replace a Ferrari fuel pump. It will come in handy when I buy a Ferrari.
The smaller cylinders should be very easy to DIY rebuild. The larger cylinders, you'll have to undo the crimp that holds the fittings in. That may release the larger cylinder and also allow you to change the small fitting O-rings. Even if you don't want to tackle the rebuilds, literally any hydraulic shop should be able to handle it much cheaper than a Ferrari specialist.
Your humor is one of the reasons why i love this channel. Your "special Ferrari fuel pump tool made in Pittsburg". Hahahahaha
The best one was drop kicking out in the yard
That's exactly what happened to my Alfa 156 with its Bosch fuel pump. It looks pretty much the same except for the height. I ended up filling it with a rubber casting compound and covering that with epoxy. After 2 years it was still working when the coolant bottle went taking the head gasket with it.
Out of all the TH-cam channels I watch yours is my absolute number one favorite. And I've never seen somebody grow a beard so fast in my life
Thanks for the entertaining ad. Never annoyed watching them. Unlike most ads.
You and only a handful of TH-camrs know how to pull off transitional ads that catch your attention lol gotta get that bag. Thank you Sam you the man!
He’s one of the only TH-camrs I know who also will advertise pretty much anything for the bag 😅
Him and Uncle Rich. Just dump the ad right into a silly story.
Shit, get the chapstick out
I literally only watch his and Rich’s
@@domchapp people named Sam are always topnotch
I love these videos Sam. I always make sure I don't miss them. Very entertaining.
That Helix sponsorship/ad was done really well, it had me laughing pretty hard...
Oh man! Did you not replace the rollover valves while you were in there???? They're the two little round plastic vent valves on the top of each tank with rubber hoses attached. They're also just as common a failure point as the fuel pumps and should definitely be changed while you have the top off. They're super easy to change, you just turn them a quarter turn and they pull right out. I hope you haven't put the top back on yet because it's crazy not to do them while you have it apart.
Couldn’t imagine what a dealership would charge for that repair, your lift just paid for itself
18:45 that's where you use needle nose pliers. Small spade terminals can break in two very easily
Also I don't think it matters which wire goes where. The fact they're both red is a clue.
I think you are correct. Just a resistor reading the fuel level. South Main Auto just had a video on a GMC Terrain(?) & he tested the fuel level sensor.
FYI to really know if you have a tight seal around those rings you'll need to fill the tanks with fuel. You can't tell until you have a full tank and the fuel reaches the ring. You'll want to do that obviously before reinstalling the roof. I learned that the hard way. Also I broke down and bought the actual tool that seats over the ring and really seal the ring. Again I found out the hard way. You can quickly sell it on Ebay if you don't plan on using it again.
@faustp23 , thanks for the tip .
Hey @Samcrac those convertible cylinders look super similar to the ones that are used on R170 SLK Mercedes. There's a lot of tutorials on how to drill a small hole to be able to loosen the C clips and refurbish them for $3. Hope it helps!
Thought I recognised them!
My favorite type of video. You show us how you avoid a multi thousand $ Ferrari bill and DIY for under $400. Love it.
Great episode, Sam 👍 Are you going to cut holes and put covers in the rear deck so that you (or a future owner) can do this job more simply? I imagine replacing the deck with Ferrari's original part would be an exorbitant price.
I was watching Tavarich's channel the other day - he was rebuilding a fire damaged Ferrari. The fire had started because of a jubilee clip (hose clamp?) being fitted the wrong way around and eventually cutting through the fuel hose. I'm sure you're aware of this stuff, but, whilst you have good access to everything, it'll probably be worth looking at all cable and hose runs to make sure there's not a similar problem developing...
I was thinking the same while the roof is off the car.
I would add a screw type marine deck plate, to make it look semi professional.
Sam, I always appreciate the street smart in you and saving money..........You are the man so keep up the videos and the good work............Your sidekick is actually pretty good too!!!!!
Another awesome video. I love it when you get expensive replacement parts for cheap. Can’t wait for the next one.
With the Hydraulics that have no visible way to remove, two things to check 1) is that gland end just covered up with something like a bit of plastic hiding screws / clips etc? 2) can you depress it at all and possibly turn it to unhook it?
The fully extended piston might turn out...
Or maybe the bronze bush looking thing at the piston end of the cylinder could be pulled out? Maybe drilled first to weaken it. Or maybe just yanked out by pulling the piston? I think the end of the piston is screwed on after the bush is slid over the piston and then pressed in to the cylinder. Maybe!
You and Sage are AMAZING!!
Great video. Love the way you handled this project. I even watched all the ads also. I usually don't. Just subscribed
Lot's of European cars and motorcycles have these tightening rings for the fuel pump holder. Get a marker and mark the ring and reference point on the tank. Then, count the turns when removing. Transfer the mark to the new retaining ring and reinstall. If you turn the same number back on, then you'll know for sure you have it tight enough before you use your final snug tightening tool of choice to align the marks. Me personally, I used XL oil filter removal pliers. Someone got smart and started using metal retaining rings, depends on the manufacturer.
Really good tip. Thanks, gonna use it when i clean the fuel pump sock bi-yearly on my car!
I love how Sam always finds a cheaper solution that is just as good as OEM... most of the time lol
It's from the original OEM
Sam - the convertible top mechanism was made by Webasto - a German company. They have manufacturing in Italy, Germany, and the US (Michigan). The top mechanism and hydraulics were very similar to the top used in early BMW Mini convertibles. They (Webasto US) used to do warranty teardowns for the Mini. I wonder if they would be willing to help on the know-how in the cylinder teardown. Also, I believe the cylinder end is press-fit. To disassemble, you would need to attach something like a slide-hammer to the shaft end and pull. This may damage the piston, but other than drilling a couple of holes on the end, i'm not sure how. I have to believe that the rebuild services do it a similar way.
Glad to see this project moving along. Can't wait to see it get on the road. 👍
Man I truly admire how you share the options of saving money. Excellent advice on fuel pump option. That clutch you had rebuilt on older build saving hundreds💪
"Needs about 2 more inches of clearance" - proceeds to ignore the ratcheting straps that would have easily provided 2 more inches of clearance.
"Needs about 2 more inches of clearance" That's what his step-mom said .
Exactly that I thought, I'm like 4 or five cranks on those straps and done!
@@ek.74.914 or even just take some air out of the rear tyres.
It would be a good idea to vacuum clean the area before pump removal to stop bits dropping int the fuel tank
great sponsorship spot - well done
I love your videos Sam I binge watch them like no other TH-cam channel. When you kicked the strap tool I was laughing for so long. Keep up the great work man super inspiring
Definitely would have cleaned the area up of old dirt before opening it, also would have lubed the seals up with something like vaseline before placing them. Otherwise go you mate!
That and I'm pretty sure that seal wasn't seated properly from the clip he showed, same with the 2nd electrical connection, he said ' okay, all good" and it wasn't, maybe he checked again before install off camera but IDK. also why didn't he just get a pair of needle nose pliers to connect that wire is beyond me.
@@steveshillinger2920 - He's not a real Ferrari mechanic, he only plays one on TV.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH he never claimed to be your watching the man work on a car in a chicken barn bro
That spider at 22:42 was like "I'm outta here!" 🤣🤣
I would have thought you would clean the area around the fuel sending unit with some carb cleaner so when you install the new ones everything looks clean top to bottom????
Wanted to say the same thing. Thought it would be a great idea to clean up all the old fuel.
@@waynepantry7023 so is my butt, but I wash it every day. Lol
Well Wayne no disrespect but I’m not sure you an old school car guy. Those of us that are like to bring things back to their original state and I’m sure that Ferrari would never let that car leave their care without completely cleaning that whole area. PS I like the butt cleaning comment that was made😂
@@ckhayne2 your watching the wrong channel Lmfaooooo
@@MrBloodguns *You’re
when sage chimes in with the "for real" at 21:10 😂😂😂
Do me a favor. DON'T PUT YOUR ARM IN BETWEEN THE PART YOU ARE LIFTING AND THE CAR. Unless you really want to lose your arm? Please? Always safety first!
Ok Karen
@@CaptainRon1913 safety is no karen matter!
A can of silicon spray with long nozzle and spray the seal gasket and the lock ring collar threads would have made it easier and would have helped get a tighter seal. last thing you would want is to repeat this.
i wonder why there wasnt a safety recall on the plastic fuel pumps and also it seems insane to have all those electrical connections right where all the fuel vapors are lingering what a death trap those 360s and probably other models were oh well thats italian engineering for you from fiat to alpha right up to ferrari
I just saw an article about a recall on Ferrari's catching on fire. I believe it is on cars going back to 2005. So you may be covered under the recall.
@@michaelnolastname3342 well thanks lisa but ive never owned a ferrari and after seeing all these vids believe me i never will i will stick to old 4-cylinder british sports cars
Steve lehto made a video about this few days ago. Many Ferrari from 2000s to almost current year are affected
@@Pwnulolumad I was about to make the same comment, 2005 and up are having recalls. 🤣
That 'Italian engineering" had failing German Bosch parts, as you have seen, didn't you?
both off those sender wires are red because it doesnt matter what side they are on. it only measures resistance which is the same in either direction in a resistor
Especially when you ve only got 3inches total
“We need another two inches and we’ll be fine.”
-Samcrac 2022
That's also what his mother-in-law said
We’re gonna need a bigger lift!!🦈
Replaced the fuel pump on a 98 Taurus SHO last month and faced exactly the same problems you encountered, as far as, care and close quarters. One Taurus fuel pump - $49.00.
Understand completely had 93 and 95. Great club for them in AZ.
Why didn't you just cut access panels to change it out like the newer cars had? You even have a newer car to make templates so they would match perfectly and fit the same covers.
That's what I get for commenting in the middle of the video. Matter cylinder replacement too.
Yes but I still couldn't stomach hacking into that panel
Yeah cutting above a fuel leak is always a good idea.../s
@@grandtheftautotune7715 next up on "why women live longer than men" lol
It's a Ferrari mate not a fiat lol
What I like about Sam is that he always loves taking on a challenge
Excellent job Sam
Could u share the Bosch part numbers to order the pumps and sender?
Thanks
While u have the roof off why not convert that that spider to a roadster and remove the roof all together ;-)
No point the roof is nice when working
LPHUMEX Fuel Pump Removal Tool - Fuel Pump Lock Ring Tool, Fuel Tank Repair Kit, Fuel Tank Lid Cover Remove Spanner, 3/8" to 1/2" Adjustable Lock Ring Spanner might have made your removal and replacement easier.
hack for pump rings, use a block of wood to tap it not METAL.
This. Jeez. On everything from this to cartridge filters for swimming pools. And some downward pressure from an extra pair of hand in the middle might've helped as well.
Another great video saving people a lot of money well done SAM
Great work and seeing that in action is different... if I am not wrong removing air from tires can give you some space, can't say if it can give 2in but can provide some slack.. correct me if I am wrong!! Thanks for sharing 👍
I was in Scituate MA when Aerosmith's Joey Kramers' Ferrari went up in flames and he burned himself trying to put it out. I recall driving by the fuel station with my then GF and seeing the carnage.
Plus you have the electrical connector right there to provide the spark. Perfect setup
I'm waiting for Mustang video 😶
I'm waiting for you to stop talking about it
That Ferrari special part made in 'Pittsburgh' kick was ultimate 👌
I don't understand why the gas leak is not a lifetime recall for any owner.
You should catch some M539 videos. Done a ton of fuel pump replacements and rebuilds on BMWs that look far harder (though no drop top removal). Great tips and tricks on how to do it right. A strap wrench is a great tool, just not for that application.
To be fair to Ferrari the fuel pump is a Bosch solution. They at least share responsibility.
It's strange, when Germans and Italians get together things usually go so well...
buy a pvc coupling the diameter of the hold down collar nut and take a dremel tool and make cuts in the edge of the coupling that will mirror the opposite tabs that are on the hold down collar nut. Then drill a hole in the opposite side of the coupling for a large screw driver to fit into and you made a wrench to open up the hold down collar nut. Plumber do the same thing for the nut under the kitchen sink strainer. Worked for me. : )
You can buy a proper wrench at napa for like $20 to take the lock rings off.
This video is awesome. You called for gloves and eye protections but you weren't wearing any.
it's called sarcasm.....
You perfectly summed up my experiences with those strap wrenches... God what a great example of something that seems like a good idea but is almost always poopy in a real life example. I guess the 5.3 AFM is a similar example, and a real life experience at the moment!
My old man always said “Never put your hands where you wouldn’t put your c**k”!!
While you have that entire assembly out of the car, you should cut access openings in it over the fuel pumps; then order some of those access opening covers from Ferrari and complete the update.
Agreed
I am glad to see you got a lift. It will make your life a lot easier
Same issue on my 08 Q7. Fuel pump housing cracked. It really made the inside smell great.
It would have been a lot easier to just cut out a hole above the fuel pump!
yeah... lets make sparks near a huge leak of fuel....
That was Ferraris solution lol
and then how do you patch the hole after the repair?
Know what's easier than disconnecting all the components etc to the engine to change the timing belts? just cut the car in half!
He had to remove the hood assembly to remove the hydraulic rams
@@muskokamike127 fabricate a couple of covers - it’s not rocket surgery…
"make sure to be wearing eye protection and gloves, like I am right now" lol love the vids 14:09
Sam I love your videos but I cringed when I saw the extremely dangerous rigging you were using as those ratchet straps are not designed for that type of lifting application. It would have been much more safer to use industrial 3/4 ton chain type come alongs which can be rented at any rent all center. They give you much more control over the load and are much more safe to use. Just my two bits comment as an industrial millwright concerned for your safety and of those around you. Cheers from Edmonton, alberta.
If those same ratchet straps can tie my 1000lb Harley down in a a trailer and bounce around down the highway, they are no problem for a few hundred lb Ferrari seat frame. Those straps are rated to 700lbs each, minimum
@@CaptainRon1913 yeah those straps are more than strong enough!
Sam your Infomercials are some of the best I've seen on the youTube.
You forgot to include the Step Mom and Rich! Too busy I guess!!!!
Bosch made those fuel pumps? They shoud be f***ing ashamed of themselves.
Way to be courageous there Cpt Obvious! What would we all do without you?
how many tabs did you break off with the pry bar ? saw you jumping frames everytime one broke off
Bosch plastic junk fuel pumps.
My favorite part when he kicked that " Ferrarri special tool" :D
You should be using thick chains not polyester straps. What were you thinking?
He's not moving Atlas rockets, what are you thinking?
You do know he was just picking up the convertible top, right?
I love your series Sam. Looking forward to the next one mate
please get step mom back on, she definitely knows what she's doing!
Great video Sam, congrats, keep rocking!!!
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Interesting on the Bosch parts! Most of the fuel system in my 6.7L powerstroke (and most other trucks obviously) is made by Bosch. .. the frame mounted fuel filter/lift pump is sealed with that exact same size green seal rubber seal.
Shouldn't that have been a full blown recall and replaced on Ferrari dime? I know north American manufacturers it would have been.
Nope, US auto makers are extremely adept at making sure their lobby groups multi-million dollars bribes head off any such recalls.
@@slowery43 their been plenty of less dangerous problems recalled on North American vehicles. Just a few years ago it was air bag inflators which included almost all NA manufacturers and Asian ones as well.
While tightening the ring on the fuel pump it is best to have someone push down on the top to help compress the gasket as you use a hammer and screwdriver to turn it. As opposed to solely using the mechanical action of the threads to pull it down tightly. I would go back after it has been tightened and see if it will tighten just a a little bit more.
Holy Post Lift!
When i lived in Spain my toy was a Fiat Barchetta. Had a couple of issues with the fuel pump that looked similar to that one ! Differance was a new one cost €30 !
Likewise i repaired a couple of Merc SLK hydrolic roofs and as you say it cost me 15 euros for the new seals, bought from the company in germany that supplied mercedes.
Not a difficult job just time consuming removing all the plastic to get access !!
Sam is just magical with his Ferrari branded pry bar
Thanks Samcrac, I've just been to see my friends Maserati which was leaking fuel, as far as I can tell at this moment its the same fuel pump and same leak, I wouldn't have known that if it wasn't for your video, spread the love :)
The top seal in the bigger rams are under a threaded lock ring if you look really closely you will see some small holes a spanner with 2 small harden pins fits into the holes to spin the ring out and the piston with just fall out after that. Chances are high to with find a wide PTFE ring with a few o-rings the ptfe maintains the o-ring gap when side loading the rams and prevents the piston from scratching the walls but honestly if I had a few broken one's to use for modeling I just machine off a full set of new ones for not much more then fixing the old ones lol
Probably best to use a piece of hardwood or plywood to chisel the ring on you could then cot the end at the correct angle to make full contact with the tab, as well as doing away either the sharp chisel end.
I tried that method. The wood just crumbled. I broke a bunch of tabs using a hammer and large screwdriver, then went and got the proper tool.
also normally clean around the hat before removal to prevent shit falling in the tank dirt leaves etc
Always lightly grease up those collars before screwing it on and on the o-ring seal too the tank, everything will slip together nice and come apart later good too if need be.
Its like a petrol bomb waiting for a spark no wonder you have so many subscribers saving life's and the money pit that comes with these cars but we all still love them and you show with good maintenance and research you can try not set yourself on fire keep up the good tips and cost savings on parts
That’s the exact same fuel pump I just installed in a 2005 tacoma!!! Nice! My truck is related to Ferraris!!!lol
saw one of those in that exact color catch on fire at a ferrari customer appreciation day once.
I got some serious PTSD flashbacks from that, had a Fiat with a very similar pump, with the big o-ring failed... Had to make a special tool to get that shit off and on with literally no room and sharp metal edges.. Glad to se you doing it with all new hardware!