Love how you have to justify switching from being an actual car guy to just a money guy. This is why I unsub'd and stopped watching your shit a long time ago. I only came here to see a beautiful c4, just to learn you're going to destroy it, like usual. Don't call yourself a car guy though, cause now you're just a filthy money pig.
DO NOT part this Corvette out! She's gorgeous! I've had a few cars with rebuilt titles and loved them! Someone will love this car! You should post what the wrecking yard is offering for it and give us the chance to out bid them to keep the car in one piece!
He's running a business, not a charity. Maybe another Corvette who has true emotional value to someone, can be saved and put back on the road with parts of this random one.
Parting out an under 5K car of any kind would be sacrilege imo. I'm going to hazard a guess that there's plenty of people watching that would love to own and drive that thing as is.
Clean it up, document what you've done, and donate it to a charity raffle. Someone out there will be happy to get a bargain and clear the title. And the car, an original survivor, will live on.
Sam. You are a feeling type of guy. You respect cars. There is someone out there who dreams of owning any model corvette and would jump at the opportunity to buy this. Don’t part it out!
Such low mileage, it's worth making right, and maybe raffling it off for charity, if it's not to be kept. It would be an absolute shame to let it be parted out.
Most people don’t realize that the C4 model was a huge jump for the corvette, not unlike the C8’s was recently. The second year of C4 production had big improvements over the 1984’s crossfire injection and rough suspension. I shipped an 85 C4 to Germany with me back in 1987, and I still remember when an American soldier, with a group of young Italian NATO soldiers, asked if I would show them the engine. There were a lot of oohs and aahs to the sight of the engine’s tuned port injection manifold as I opened the clamshell hood.
I loved corvette ever since I was little and I just recently bought my first one A 85 c4 with only 110k miles and I love it Seeing corvettes like this or in a junkyard always hurts they need to be DRIVEN AND LOVED
Honestly I’m with the others Sam I don’t think you should part it out. There’s got to be someone out there (probably here in the comments!) who would pay a price you’d be happy with and would not care about the flood paperwork/salvage title.
Anytime there's a major weather event, it's not uncommon for people to take the opportunity to unload problems. This is because the insurers are usually so overwhelmed with claims that they don't actually investigate each one like they normally would. They just cut a check and send a wrecker.
I’ve been in the car bizz for 20 yrs , a salvage title and your video explaining your find will bring all the money,,, not dropping the tank and installing a new fuel pump was killing me .
I’ve also been in the car business for 20+ yrs and I looked this car up. It sold on Copart in Jan with a Certificate of destruction title due to flood with the miles listed for $4750. It shows only 1 sale record. I think he may be trying to pull a fast one on us. Here’s the vin 1G1YY22P1S5119675.
Hi Sam, WOW! What an incredible and FIND and TREMENDOUS STORY! And, YOU Found It! It is far too great a story, to ever, ever, "PART OUT" this amazing incredible C-4! Likely It Was Never Flooded! That's what really matters! Some happy future buyer, would never be like "a needle in a haystack." instead, you personally might easily be the joyful answer, to someone else's lifelong hopes and dreams! This are obviously so many people here, along with me too, that would love to buy this right now! Perhaps you might be some grateful and lucky person's, "TRUE HERO," instead of parting it out!😉🎉
not with that title, history. bet this was an insurance job not on the up and up. You could blow 10k on this car and still need lots...for a car thats worth less
"Soldersticks" are aviation "environmental butt splices, with an "MS" number and everything. They've been around for 20-30 years. I've been using them on "home projects" at least that long, usually in locations exposed to weather or oil/gas.
Like leno says: A car is only unmolested and unrestored once. Even with that title, that car is just to nice. Under 5k miles, that is almost something for a corvette museum.
If this were to really be used by someone the entire sender assembly needs replacing. I've got the wiring straight to the pump which is sitting in gas. It's fine for moving around not for driving at any sort of speed.
There are so many talented people out there that just love working on cars and restoration that the salvage title means nothing to them. I am not one of those people but I would love to own this Corvette.
My 1995 I bought new hadn't been started in 7 years (transmission failure). A few months ago I finally swapped the tranny. When I tried to start it, same problem as yours, except my fuel pump was way more corroded than yours. I replaced the whole assembly. I also had about an inch of molasses in the tank. I scraped it all out with my hand (took hours). I threw the old gas on a brush fire I had burning, and it did burn, but did not explode/flare up like gas should. After a cleanup, the car fired up fine.
I am guessing this Corvette was written off because the fuel pump went out sometime around Ian. Insurance was already writing off thousands of cars for flood damage, and this one was probably written off with out being checked.
My guess is the owner really wasn't impressed when he bought it and he kept having to dump thousands into keeping it running for intermittent use. He probably took advantage of storm damage in his area to get the insurance company to buy it from him.
This is most likely. Got old or hurt, couldn't use it any more, and took the easy out when Ian or another storm lead to adjusters totalling anything a customer put a claim on because they'd have taken years to look at all from the severe understaffing.
Give it to a viewer 😊 I think what happened is pretty much longer the lines of what you were saying. The original owner knew that it needed work and did not want to pay the repair bill. They were likely in a federal disaster area, which triggers special allowances with the insurance where insurance basically has to cover and total it out if the person says it was flooded. One of my neighbors did the same thing many many years ago during a flood in Aurora Illinois those designated a federal disaster area. The water literally reach the bottom of the car where their house was, but because the car was so problematic there are able to get it totaled out under very favorable conditions for them due to the disaster area designation.
@@gelynch52phPH Insurance companies are smart. they can investigate stuff for a loong time. By the time they come knocking its off to prison. In this case he may be ok just saying.
Glad youre jumping back on the C4 / ZR-1 . One of my favorite videos ever was the one where you described as being a kid and your uncle took you out in his new C4 / ZR-1 . After the ride you never wanted anything to do with C4 / ZR-1 because the car was fast and scared you as a boy. Great family story. Thank you for sharing. Ive told my niece and nephews that story, and they loved it too. Take care Bud
You do great work I just got a c5 it spend 21 years in Florida it has 20k miles on it. Runs and looks good. I am not handy at all and won't attempt to do anything mechanical but I like washing it
Sam, when you do those solder connections keep the heat gun on the connector until ALL the solder has melted. On both connectors you only half soldered them!
I restore pinball machines and motorcycles and aslong as you have all of the original parts keep it together. Sell it to someone who has the time to get it road ready. The cost of restoring is mostly elbow grease as long as you have the parts. Years ago the money I earned restoring motorcycles helped pay my way through college.
No to parting it out, drop that tank and clean it properly, new pump and sender, new fuel filter and run thought the brakes, powered coat the wheels and new tyres. Do it right, looks a clean motor
I tried to tell you about those connectors on another video and all the "experts" said you need to solder it manually. As a former R&D tech, QE, and soldering instructor I know they are good.
Interesting. I've been taught that you never ever want to solder anything on a car. Crimp and screw, but never solder! Now I'm not claiming this is right, it's just what I've been taught. The problem with solder is that it stiffens the wire you solder and it tend to break from vibrations. And if the car is ever used up north where it gets cold there's a risk the solder will turn to dust. I tested that last part. Soldered a couple of leads together and stuck them in a bag in the freezer for a month. And yes, the solder joint didn't look all that good. As a kid I did an experiment putting a tin soldier in the freezer and pure tin was quite bad. A 60/40 Tin/Lead mix didn't seem to be the least bit affected. So I guess it's all about the solder used.
Dude I found your channel as a recommendation from TH-cam. I am completely impressed. Awesome work, great tips and recommendations and just overall a great channel. I have now watched several of your segments and am completely hooked. Thank you greatly...
If I could make a suggestion regarding those solder connectors: make sure the glue/sealer bands are on the wire insulation PASSED the bare wire. Those are what seal the joint. If you look carefully at 8:16 there's a bit of bare wire outside the sealed area on the left side. Fuel will probably wick into the end of the shrink tube and reach the bare wire. There was no reason to have that much wire twisted together. And pay additional attention when connecting 3 wires like that - the glue/seal needs to fill in the gap between the two wires on the right, or at least cover the bare wire, which it looks like it may have. If this was anywhere else on the car, I wouldn't be too concerned, but going into the fuel tank... that scares me. Last thing you want inside a fuel tank is a short, unless your goal is to make the car live up to it's salvage title.
@@j_freed The metal housing on the pump and the pickup tubes the wires go right past are almost certainly grounded. That was on a ground wire itself, but if he did it there, it's probably something he's not particular about anywhere. Just saying it's best to have all electrical wires sealed from the elements, flammable or not.
Those are good tips. But i’ve found the best way to use these is to install another layer of adhesive lined heat shrink tubing over the top of the solder tubing. The solder often seeps through the clear tubing and causes shorts with other wires or grounds.
ive used these a few times. Twisting the wires like he he did is not recommended. The suggested way that I read says to clip off the 1/8" insulation on both wires and loosen exposed wires just enough the allow the wires to basically pass through each other until they reach the others insulation. This allows the heat to get the center of the wires hot enough to avoid a cold solder joint without melting the material. You can tell the difference by the solder. Cold solder joints will be dull and gray while a solid joint will be shiny silver. i found that twisting the wires together would melt the material before the solder reached that shiny state.
Sam, I'm gonna join in on the echo chamber here. Don't part that car out. If it was ratty, bad paint, 100k+ miles, etc. it would be different. But that's a gorgeous time capsule that deserves to live on. Rebuilt title or not, that car is way too nice to be broken down. It's almost a museum piece.
With a fuel tank that cruddy I might even get in there with a spray nozzle from a hose and then a wet/dry vac. if you fill the tank with water first there won't be any gas vapors to have an issue with sparking at the vac motor. and you can literally wash it out and then vacuum out the water and crud. At a minimum I'd swab it out with paper towels on a length of brazing rod or a wire coat hanger. 95% of that crud can be removed without dropping the tank and sloshing it. As far as the car goes, rebuilding a title is not that big a deal. and for a sweet car like this I'd do it. Grab a set of tires and wheels from a wrecker, give it a set of new brake disks ( and pads if they are not 3/4 or better ) and with some work to the fuel tank and some new fluids you have a great car! Don't go overboard on the tires and wheels as the new owner will probably want something different than whatever you might choose.
Many car guys make th e mistake of buying a cheap vette or foreign car convinced they can fix it up cheap Cars like this will create someone who hates vettes the rest of thier life lol.
At 8:21 Those heat shrink solder sleeves... Suck! By the time you get enough heat to the wires and solder, the heat shrink is fried and you will Rarely if ever wet out the solder joint like you can doing it the right way! Solder First, Heat shrink Second with good quality adhesive lined heat shrink tubing.👍 Do the job once! Mike in San Diego. 🌞🎸🚀🖖
I use these all the time but I always put heat shrink over them. They have worked extremely well for me for years. Zero failures on cars, trucks, motorcycles, trailers, etc etc. They kick ass and are WAY quicker and easier than a soldering iron.
I was a little surprised when he said he’s parting it out…but I’m not sure he’s committed to going that route so much as trying to drive up the value a little more. The condition makes this car much more desirable than a typical salvage title car. I live in a state where it could converted to “rebuilt salvage” and I wouldn’t hesitate to own it. The actual condition far outweighs whatever the title says.
If I had the money I would buy it from you in a heartbeat no job the title doesn’t bug me one bit lol. It’s such a low mile car keep it together. I would love to buy it if I could. My dad had a c4 and they mean so much to me.
I'm glad you cranked it for a little bit without it firing. That gets oil distributed, scrapes off some cylinder surface rust and basically avoids catastrophic failure in an engine that has been sitting.
There are a number of states where you can not put a flooded salvage car under registration because no insurance company would want to touch it. Part it out rather than originally sending it to the crusher. Parting is good for the soul, and pocketbook.
Parting c4s out is tough..20 yrs ago it was profitable but few are restoring these its not cost effective. he could sell that engine for more than the entire car I bet
@@YOEL_44 You sound like a Trump supporter. Fraud is illegal, why not flag up fraud, especially if it means that something you own is worth less due to another's fraud.
I agree, it is a shame to not put a car in this condition back on the road. Surely someone out there would take it? Once it is parted, there is no coming back and I cannot see you getting more money that way after the junkyard takes their cut.
well, the most profitable thing if you exclude work would be to move the parts over to a car with a title that doesn't have flood damage on it, perhaps. anyhow parting it out can absolutely be more profitable than finding a buyer. you can look at it like this too.. those parts will go to someone who absolutely loves their vette and wants good parts for their vette(and not gamble on some technically flood damage car).
This C4 was obviosity branded incorrectly and you explained that perfectly in the video. Please clean it up as a showroom car and I Truly believe you'll make a tidy profit and make a C4 lover very happy. Or make it a give away to one of your loyal subscribers like me ! Please dont part it out!
There isn't in Florida, once it's stamped, it's stamped. There is one state that will issue a clear title, I think Delaware, but once it's titled in another state, it will again be branded.
Most places you can get it changed to restored rebuilt, which will give it a good status . But who really cares if there was an 67 jaguar with $4000 miles on it, my view of the car wouldn't change of what label was put on it.
Guaranteed you could find a buyer willing to pay the price this would have without the flood title on it. I think it would be a shame to part out any car that has been used this little.
Love your channel! You always are all business with showing what us viewers want. Others seem to get off repairs and offering learning.I am cancelling many subscriptions. You are now my number 1!
I noticed that the solder was not melted when using those connectors. I have used them and you need a little more heat to make the proper connection. Just an observation. I love these video's.
You must be living right, my friend, you got the car for a good price with a minimum investment to get it running, now with a good detail you should have a good daily driver and/or a good profit when you sell it to a buyer who is looking for a C-4. I wish you all the good things with the car. Thanks for sharing this video with all of us.
Wow those Solder Sticks are. Slicker than Deer Guts n a Doorknob ! ironically i have been a long time .boat Owner that does all my own Maintnancecand repairs one crucial tool i keep onboard is a HeatGun that is sold at Hobby Shops for covering Remote Control Airplanes those heat guns are. designed to get into tighter areas and also usually come with nozzles andcAccessories that allow you to direct. the air into very specific areas in a concentrated manner on a boat. that’s often helpfull to get hoses on and off easily or even loosen Corroded Fasteners those Butt Conecctors will help make electrical connections in tight engine rooms and Electrical distribution panels Thankyou
The rusty brake rotors are a decent sign of flood damage. The car sat in water but it failed to permeate anything more than the lower drive train/brake components. You should sell it complete and let someone repair the components that were damaged. Nice interior!!
I bought a 89 when it was 2 years old, still have it, The car drives, and performs great, is fun to drive and handles amazing. I love it, I have 12 cars in my collection and I just keep adding as I can. In my collection I have a Ferrari, and my 89 vette is every bit as fun as it. I also have a 74 Ford Capri and that car is probably more fun.
C4s make great cars for someone just getting into autocross and track day stuff. That would be a great car for that and it would keep it together and extend its life.
Sam my C5 wouldn’t start do to a bad ground underneath the battery tray (4x 13mm bolts) It’s a splice pack ground (one of many). Jump the fuel pump relay with a wire to see if that helps Sage get it running. If that works it’s probably that ground.
When ever you hit a snag stop what your doing and go back to the last decision you made. When you used the acetone in your tank bad idea to let that get though the system. What you should have done is get a garden hose and fill the tank with hot soapy water and then vacuum the tank out and repeat until n till it was clean when it’s dry your set to reinstall the unit. It would be a good idea to remove the filter and blow out the lines with compressed air
If it has been sitting for 7 years, and only had 4k miles, parting it out makes sense. The transmission will probably have seats, seals, o-rings, and components that have also dry rotted through lack of use lubrication and once put back into service, will ultimately require major transmission service work. This is speaking from experience. The crud that was in the fuel tank is also in the fuel lines and injectors. The small orifices in the injectors may randomly clog, causing rough running issues and CELs.
Part 2, Here's Why it's Near Impossible to Save this Corvette: th-cam.com/video/luAF028WeKI/w-d-xo.html
Love how you have to justify switching from being an actual car guy to just a money guy. This is why I unsub'd and stopped watching your shit a long time ago. I only came here to see a beautiful c4, just to learn you're going to destroy it, like usual. Don't call yourself a car guy though, cause now you're just a filthy money pig.
NòooooooòooooooooNooooooooo don't part it out it wants to live you got it running and now you want to kill it find it a good home
July 4 2024
Scrap it? How dare you!
Sell it with the background knowledge someone will drive it
DO NOT part this Corvette out! She's gorgeous! I've had a few cars with rebuilt titles and loved them! Someone will love this car! You should post what the wrecking yard is offering for it and give us the chance to out bid them to keep the car in one piece!
Rebuild the corvette and see if there is a way to change title status legally
@@keithlempka2593branded titles can never be changed
@@spencersims1285vin swap with another car of same spec. Easy to do.
I would like to export it. It won't matter in another country what the title says. Let me know the price
Half the time the repair exceeds OEM 😂
What a shame. Salvage title or not, that car deserves to be brought back to life. Even if you're not the one to do it. Sell it to someone to enjoy.
Agreed!!
He's running a business, not a charity. Maybe another Corvette who has true emotional value to someone, can be saved and put back on the road with parts of this random one.
You can still make a profit selling it whole. By this logic he should've parted out the ZR1.
but then he can't make babies
Yes why ow why part it out im deleting this channel 😢😢
Parting out an under 5K car of any kind would be sacrilege imo. I'm going to hazard a guess that there's plenty of people watching that would love to own and drive that thing as is.
the title can be rebuilt, easily
Announcing the plan to part it out is a clever way to motivate that person who might want to buy it to drive!
@@jimichan7649 your right thats kinda big brain 😂
100%. I almost started to cry when he said that.
The interior is a huge win . That car can be brought back without too much . Great buy
Clean it up, document what you've done, and donate it to a charity raffle.
Someone out there will be happy to get a bargain and clear the title.
And the car, an original survivor, will live on.
Sam. You are a feeling type of guy. You respect cars. There is someone out there who dreams of owning any model corvette and would jump at the opportunity to buy this. Don’t part it out!
That person is Me!
Sam is a shark. I can respect that, but he is who he is. He'll make the most lucrative deal, no matter what. Business is business.
@@andytaylor1588 - There is always a buck chasing POS around every corner... The love of money is the root of all evil. Parting it out is evil.
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@@KlodFathersomeone will buy it from him and say they're gonna rebuild it then part it out and make as much as they can
Such low mileage, it's worth making right, and maybe raffling it off for charity, if it's not to be kept. It would be an absolute shame to let it be parted out.
I’ll raffle you off as charity
I like the charity auction idea
Such an un-witty reply.
he said it has a junk title so cant be put back on the road
You can absolutly drive it on the road with a salvage title after inspection.@@mrj-charles6383
Maximum profit is not always worth the cost of destroying a rare find. Do the right thing and preserve the integrity of that car. Please Sam
its a c4. There's nothing rare about it except mileage but its not unique enough for that to matter.
@@russellv6234Disagree. They're not making any more of these...
You sound like you wanna suck his dick. Well do you?
😂😂😂
That is not a rare or collectible car. They made hundreds of thousands of c4s
Most people don’t realize that the C4 model was a huge jump for the corvette, not unlike the C8’s was recently. The second year of C4 production had big improvements over the 1984’s crossfire injection and rough suspension. I shipped an 85 C4 to Germany with me back in 1987, and I still remember when an American soldier, with a group of young Italian NATO soldiers, asked if I would show them the engine. There were a lot of oohs and aahs to the sight of the engine’s tuned port injection manifold as I opened the clamshell hood.
I loved corvette ever since I was little and I just recently bought my first one
A 85 c4 with only 110k miles and I love it
Seeing corvettes like this or in a junkyard always hurts they need to be DRIVEN AND LOVED
Honestly I’m with the others Sam I don’t think you should part it out. There’s got to be someone out there (probably here in the comments!) who would pay a price you’d be happy with and would not care about the flood paperwork/salvage title.
Anytime there's a major weather event, it's not uncommon for people to take the opportunity to unload problems. This is because the insurers are usually so overwhelmed with claims that they don't actually investigate each one like they normally would. They just cut a check and send a wrecker.
Indeed, the area might have flooded - a few inches. Just enough to create a "plausible cause" to the paper shufflers.
Bingo
In the Finance/M/A&D sector, it’s referred to as “muddying the water”, obscuring the minutiae
Sam is in need of a little bit of yard and car storage and parts organization assistance
How much did parts guy offer you
I’ve been in the car bizz for 20 yrs , a salvage title and your video explaining your find will bring all the money,,, not dropping the tank and installing a new fuel pump was killing me .
I’ve also been in the car business for 20+ yrs and I looked this car up. It sold on Copart in Jan with a Certificate of destruction title due to flood with the miles listed for $4750. It shows only 1 sale record. I think he may be trying to pull a fast one on us. Here’s the vin 1G1YY22P1S5119675.
Saying he's gonna run acetone that he hopes liquifies the shit in the tank 😅 how about fucking rinsing it out a few times wtf
Hi Sam, WOW! What an incredible and FIND and TREMENDOUS STORY! And, YOU Found It! It is far too great a story, to ever, ever, "PART OUT" this amazing incredible C-4! Likely It Was Never Flooded! That's what really matters! Some happy future buyer, would never be like "a needle in a haystack." instead, you personally might easily be the joyful answer, to someone else's lifelong hopes and dreams! This are obviously so many people here, along with me too, that would love to buy this right now! Perhaps you might be some grateful and lucky person's, "TRUE HERO," instead of parting it out!😉🎉
anyone who has had a c4 would touch this car unless it was for parts...probably offer less than a grand too
Please don't part it out. This is someone's dream car, including mine. I'm sure someone would love to spend the time to make it great again.
If I was in the states I'd be tempted, love those corvettes
oh, is he in canada?@@benmac940
It’s the flood salvage title that is a huge problem it’s worth more as parts than a complete car.
not with that title, history. bet this was an insurance job not on the up and up.
You could blow 10k on this car and still need lots...for a car thats worth less
This car deserves to live and not be parted
Sam, that poor C4 deserves better. For all you put into it, it atleast deserves a spot at home in the stables
If there's one thing we've all learned from Sam, it's how valuable it is to have a field full of reference vehicles! (Most of which don't run).
"Soldersticks" are aviation "environmental butt splices, with an "MS" number and everything. They've been around for 20-30 years. I've been using them on "home projects" at least that long, usually in locations exposed to weather or oil/gas.
Sell it to a subscriber. At least let it live.
I certainly would buy it..
What's your price?
@@BlooMuleI’d give him a few grand over what he paid as a finders fee.
Like leno says: A car is only unmolested and unrestored once. Even with that title, that car is just to nice. Under 5k miles, that is almost something for a corvette museum.
Gay car good thing it got chopped to get rid of one less on the road 😂
Salvage titles can be rebuilt and put back on the road.
@Chi978 awe some little re-re got dragged by a c4 and is still upset 😂
What’s “gay” about it???
@@Dustyfingers😊
“We’re just putting it back to get the car to run.”
There’s nothing more permanent than temporary wiring that works. 😂
If this were to really be used by someone the entire sender assembly needs replacing. I've got the wiring straight to the pump which is sitting in gas. It's fine for moving around not for driving at any sort of speed.
There are so many talented people out there that just love working on cars and restoration that the salvage title means nothing to them. I am not one of those people but I would love to own this Corvette.
My 1995 I bought new hadn't been started in 7 years (transmission failure). A few months ago I finally swapped the tranny. When I tried to start it, same problem as yours, except my fuel pump was way more corroded than yours. I replaced the whole assembly. I also had about an inch of molasses in the tank. I scraped it all out with my hand (took hours). I threw the old gas on a brush fire I had burning, and it did burn, but did not explode/flare up like gas should. After a cleanup, the car fired up fine.
I am guessing this Corvette was written off because the fuel pump went out sometime around Ian. Insurance was already writing off thousands of cars for flood damage, and this one was probably written off with out being checked.
Don't blame me 😮
My guess is the owner really wasn't impressed when he bought it and he kept having to dump thousands into keeping it running for intermittent use.
He probably took advantage of storm damage in his area to get the insurance company to buy it from him.
Shame the part that car out.
What a DUMB FUCK comment.
100% what happened, good call
Wonder if the owner dumped a little something in the tank to make sure the insurance money would come through......
This is most likely. Got old or hurt, couldn't use it any more, and took the easy out when Ian or another storm lead to adjusters totalling anything a customer put a claim on because they'd have taken years to look at all from the severe understaffing.
Cmon Sam, parting it out feels so wrong
Give it to a viewer 😊
I think what happened is pretty much longer the lines of what you were saying. The original owner knew that it needed work and did not want to pay the repair bill. They were likely in a federal disaster area, which triggers special allowances with the insurance where insurance basically has to cover and total it out if the person says it was flooded.
One of my neighbors did the same thing many many years ago during a flood in Aurora Illinois those designated a federal disaster area. The water literally reach the bottom of the car where their house was, but because the car was so problematic there are able to get it totaled out under very favorable conditions for them due to the disaster area designation.
I get why and what they did but that’s insurance fraud and is illegal and IMO not worth going to jail for if caught
@@jakereal3604 It's done now, so need for Sam to worry. Besides, at this point it's all speculation.
Give? I'm not sure you realize who this guy is. I highly doubt charity is in his vocabulary
@@gelynch52phPH Insurance companies are smart. they can investigate stuff for a loong time. By the time they come knocking its off to prison. In this case he may be ok just saying.
Glad youre jumping back on the C4 / ZR-1 . One of my favorite videos ever was the one where you described as being a kid and your uncle took you out in his new C4 / ZR-1 .
After the ride you never wanted anything to do with C4 / ZR-1 because the car was fast and scared you as a boy.
Great family story. Thank you for sharing. Ive told my niece and nephews that story, and they loved it too.
Take care Bud
You do great work I just got a c5 it spend 21 years in Florida it has 20k miles on it. Runs and looks good. I am not handy at all and won't attempt to do anything mechanical but I like washing it
Tyler Hoover will buy that car in heartbeat!!! That car deserves to be a road Hooptie!!!
Nah. He just sold off a part of his fleet to get money for the farm.
With low milleage and condition it is ... im sure someone would buy to make it road worthy again car is really nice !!👌👌
Sam, when you do those solder connections keep the heat gun on the connector until ALL the solder has melted. On both connectors you only half soldered them!
Yep I’ve seen these connectors on legit street cars and Alex melts them completely!
Love your videos, always looking forward to them. DO NOT PART IT... there's always someone looking these classics. Watching u from Zambia 🇿🇲
I restore pinball machines and motorcycles and aslong as you have all of the original parts keep it together. Sell it to someone who has the time to get it road ready. The cost of restoring is mostly elbow grease as long as you have the parts. Years ago the money I earned restoring motorcycles helped pay my way through college.
No to parting it out, drop that tank and clean it properly, new pump and sender, new fuel filter and run thought the brakes, powered coat the wheels and new tyres. Do it right, looks a clean motor
I tried to tell you about those connectors on another video and all the "experts" said you need to solder it manually. As a former R&D tech, QE, and soldering instructor I know they are good.
Are the budget types fuel resistant?
Interesting. I've been taught that you never ever want to solder anything on a car. Crimp and screw, but never solder!
Now I'm not claiming this is right, it's just what I've been taught. The problem with solder is that it stiffens the wire you solder and it tend to break from vibrations. And if the car is ever used up north where it gets cold there's a risk the solder will turn to dust.
I tested that last part. Soldered a couple of leads together and stuck them in a bag in the freezer for a month. And yes, the solder joint didn't look all that good. As a kid I did an experiment putting a tin soldier in the freezer and pure tin was quite bad. A 60/40 Tin/Lead mix didn't seem to be the least bit affected. So I guess it's all about the solder used.
@blahorgaslisk7763 100% about the mix
@@ImperrfectStranger Very doubtful. Fuel resistant is in a whole different category.
@@johnelectric933 Apparently they are made of polyolefin which is resistant to fuel, but I've seen so-called fuel resistant plastics go soft in time.
I would buy that car in a heartbeat just the way it sits. I love the C4 platform.
Too nice to part out. I’m a current owner of a 72 t top 4 sp. L48 that I have owned for 51 yrs. And owner of 2019 stingray bought new in 2018.
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If I could make a suggestion regarding those solder connectors: make sure the glue/sealer bands are on the wire insulation PASSED the bare wire. Those are what seal the joint. If you look carefully at 8:16 there's a bit of bare wire outside the sealed area on the left side. Fuel will probably wick into the end of the shrink tube and reach the bare wire. There was no reason to have that much wire twisted together. And pay additional attention when connecting 3 wires like that - the glue/seal needs to fill in the gap between the two wires on the right, or at least cover the bare wire, which it looks like it may have. If this was anywhere else on the car, I wouldn't be too concerned, but going into the fuel tank... that scares me. Last thing you want inside a fuel tank is a short, unless your goal is to make the car live up to it's salvage title.
Maybe. You'd need a spark in gasoline vapor though right? And where is it going to short to?
Good notes on wiring hygiene. 👍
@@j_freed The metal housing on the pump and the pickup tubes the wires go right past are almost certainly grounded. That was on a ground wire itself, but if he did it there, it's probably something he's not particular about anywhere. Just saying it's best to have all electrical wires sealed from the elements, flammable or not.
Just like oil or transmission fluid it can wick all of the way through the harness potentially.
Those are good tips. But i’ve found the best way to use these is to install another layer of adhesive lined heat shrink tubing over the top of the solder tubing. The solder often seeps through the clear tubing and causes shorts with other wires or grounds.
ive used these a few times. Twisting the wires like he he did is not recommended. The suggested way that I read says to clip off the 1/8" insulation on both wires and loosen exposed wires just enough the allow the wires to basically pass through each other until they reach the others insulation. This allows the heat to get the center of the wires hot enough to avoid a cold solder joint without melting the material. You can tell the difference by the solder. Cold solder joints will be dull and gray while a solid joint will be shiny silver. i found that twisting the wires together would melt the material before the solder reached that shiny state.
Not cleaning that tank out is just asking for an injector swap to be added to the list.
Even if I don't agree, his idea is to part it out, so who cares...
Dudes just making videos to get views.
Give Tyler Hoover a call ! He'll buy it !!! 🤣
He is only spending money on the farm now. Also, he only buys ticking time bombs, so I gotta disagree 😂.
Sam, I'm gonna join in on the echo chamber here. Don't part that car out. If it was ratty, bad paint, 100k+ miles, etc. it would be different. But that's a gorgeous time capsule that deserves to live on. Rebuilt title or not, that car is way too nice to be broken down. It's almost a museum piece.
With a fuel tank that cruddy I might even get in there with a spray nozzle from a hose and then a wet/dry vac. if you fill the tank with water first there won't be any gas vapors to have an issue with sparking at the vac motor. and you can literally wash it out and then vacuum out the water and crud. At a minimum I'd swab it out with paper towels on a length of brazing rod or a wire coat hanger. 95% of that crud can be removed without dropping the tank and sloshing it.
As far as the car goes, rebuilding a title is not that big a deal. and for a sweet car like this I'd do it. Grab a set of tires and wheels from a wrecker, give it a set of new brake disks ( and pads if they are not 3/4 or better ) and with some work to the fuel tank and some new fluids you have a great car! Don't go overboard on the tires and wheels as the new owner will probably want something different than whatever you might choose.
Sam
My opinion is that’s the wrong move. So many people are struggling to buy a good used car. That one would definitely make someone super happy!!
Many car guys make th e mistake of buying a cheap vette or foreign car convinced they can fix it up cheap
Cars like this will create someone who hates vettes the rest of thier life lol.
Do not part it out!! It deserves to be given a new life to an enthusiast!
That would make a great channel give away prize
Those solder stick are actually waterproof as well. They have a heat activated glue inside.
Not the way he used them...
Those things are sweet. I prefer them over standard crimps. Good seal. Good wire retention. Clearly a good contact when you are soldered up.
the glue disolves in gasoline
@@dennisfahey2379 Less space as well.
Wish I knew about these before I started my 20k watt car audio build.
At 8:21
Those heat shrink solder sleeves... Suck!
By the time you get enough heat to the wires and solder, the heat shrink is fried and you will Rarely if ever wet out the solder joint like you can doing it the right way!
Solder First, Heat shrink Second with good quality adhesive lined heat shrink tubing.👍
Do the job once!
Mike in San Diego. 🌞🎸🚀🖖
I use these all the time but I always put heat shrink over them. They have worked extremely well for me for years. Zero failures on cars, trucks, motorcycles, trailers, etc etc. They kick ass and are WAY quicker and easier than a soldering iron.
I was a little surprised when he said he’s parting it out…but I’m not sure he’s committed to going that route so much as trying to drive up the value a little more.
The condition makes this car much more desirable than a typical salvage title car. I live in a state where it could converted to “rebuilt salvage” and I wouldn’t hesitate to own it. The actual condition far outweighs whatever the title says.
Offer it up to one of your viewers at a price similar to the recycler!
Car needs to be given a 2nd chance. Too good to scrap but it gives you the best bucks for the deal.
If I had the money I would buy it from you in a heartbeat no job the title doesn’t bug me one bit lol. It’s such a low mile car keep it together. I would love to buy it if I could. My dad had a c4 and they mean so much to me.
Same here
I just bought a 2008 Nissan Pathfinder with 18k miles.
Looks brand new out of the showroom condition. Salvage title
I agree with previous posters. Give us a chance at least to match the J&J bid. Keeping it whole gives someone a chance to buy a time capsule.
Samcrac is fhe OG of TH-cam automotive drama 😂
Sam, get it road worthy and sell it to someone who appreciate the car and can give it a good home!
It’s running and driving and a lot of people don’t care what the title says. Can’t believe you would part out such a nice car.
It’s not always about the money, but about a beautiful low mileage car that deserves to be back on the road
I'm glad you cranked it for a little bit without it firing. That gets oil distributed, scrapes off some cylinder surface rust and basically avoids catastrophic failure in an engine that has been sitting.
There are a number of states where you can not put a flooded salvage car under registration because no insurance company would want to touch it. Part it out rather than originally sending it to the crusher. Parting is good for the soul, and pocketbook.
Parting c4s out is tough..20 yrs ago it was profitable but few are restoring these its not cost effective.
he could sell that engine for more than the entire car I bet
It looks to be an insurance scam. Could you have it inspected and get fhe flood title removed?
And f*ck with the og owner, what a genius...
Once it’s branded, don’t think it can go back to Clean/original.
@@YOEL_44 You sound like a Trump supporter. Fraud is illegal, why not flag up fraud, especially if it means that something you own is worth less due to another's fraud.
@@justintime4466 In normal circumstances it should be permanent, but if this is due to fraud then maybe it is different.
You can get rebuilt titles in many states, this car would pass instantly
I agree, it is a shame to not put a car in this condition back on the road. Surely someone out there would take it? Once it is parted, there is no coming back and I cannot see you getting more money that way after the junkyard takes their cut.
well, the most profitable thing if you exclude work would be to move the parts over to a car with a title that doesn't have flood damage on it, perhaps.
anyhow parting it out can absolutely be more profitable than finding a buyer. you can look at it like this too.. those parts will go to someone who absolutely loves their vette and wants good parts for their vette(and not gamble on some technically flood damage car).
Check to see if the title would come clean if resold a couple times. Then just bounce it back and forth with someone you can trust.
@@krypka4212 Lost cause. He isnt fixing this thing for a reason. Many insurance co's once they search the vin may not wanna touch it.
I can’t believe he didn’t pump out the acetone once it had dissolved most of the crud in the tank!
Yeah, between that and using those Crappy Solder ring heat shrink wastes of time, I'm feeling like he not the sharpest tool in the shed! 🤔
Thanks for being consistent Samuel! Hopefully we get step mom back one day
This C4 was obviosity branded incorrectly and you explained that perfectly in the video. Please clean it up as a showroom car and I Truly believe you'll make a tidy profit and make a C4 lover very happy. Or make it a give away to one of your loyal subscribers like me ! Please dont part it out!
Great! Did I win The Car?
Man that c5 needs some love!! That c4 is clean and was a good find/buy
I wonder if there's a way to legally dispute the salvage status of this car. In any case it's too nice to part out!
There isn't in Florida, once it's stamped, it's stamped. There is one state that will issue a clear title, I think Delaware, but once it's titled in another state, it will again be branded.
you can rebuild flood titles in most states very easily, this car would instantly pass and be road legal again
@@reggienieman7872is that why I can't go on the road if it's flood damaged. Though it's fine just like if u fix the front damage from another car?
@@katom2111 Salvage cars can be driven on the road with a salvage title.
Most places you can get it changed to restored rebuilt, which will give it a good status . But who really cares if there was an 67 jaguar with $4000 miles on it, my view of the car wouldn't change of what label was put on it.
Guaranteed you could find a buyer willing to pay the price this would have without the flood title on it. I think it would be a shame to part out any car that has been used this little.
Dude!!! TAHANK YOU FOR SHOWING THAT WITH SOLDER STICK.. I see them all over a website and now I’ll take advantage of that deal!!
I say make more videos of its restoration and give it to a charity to auction off. Then someone will be able love it and drive it for years to come.
Bro dang, that interiors mint. I’m actually impressed
You can always part it out. Why not try ‘Bring aTrailer’ (or similar) first? Wouldn’t it be better to save it?
def worth a try b4 killing it. This old dog deserves a forever home!
I’ll be interested in buying please don’t brake her apart
Love your channel! You always are all business with showing what us viewers want. Others seem to get off repairs and offering learning.I am cancelling many subscriptions. You are now my number 1!
I noticed that the solder was not melted when using those connectors. I have used them and you need a little more heat to make the proper connection. Just an observation. I love these video's.
Detail it and keep it. Parting it out would be a true shame.
Part it out, no way. A lot of people would love to own and drive that c4 including me.
Then buy it?
Please don’t kill it, post a price to sell it and let it live on!!
You must be living right, my friend, you got the car for a good price with a minimum investment to get it running, now with a good detail you should have a good daily driver and/or a good profit when you sell it to a buyer who is looking for a C-4. I wish you all the good things with the car. Thanks for sharing this video with all of us.
Wow those Solder Sticks are. Slicker than Deer Guts n a Doorknob ! ironically i have been a long time .boat Owner that does all my own Maintnancecand repairs one crucial tool i keep onboard is a HeatGun that is sold at Hobby Shops for covering Remote Control Airplanes those heat guns are. designed to get into tighter areas and also usually come with nozzles andcAccessories that allow you to direct. the air into very specific areas in a concentrated manner on a boat. that’s often helpfull to get hoses on and off easily or even loosen Corroded Fasteners those Butt Conecctors will help make electrical connections in tight engine rooms and Electrical distribution panels Thankyou
You should restore it to 100% and auction it off for charity, hurricane relief
If flood damage was in the sale description, why wouldn't you check for water in the cylinders first?
Because oil was at correct level and no presence of a milk shake.
interior smells, water lines, grime, oil, etc. many indicators not showing it was a flood.
@@lukewalker1051 If it wasnt ran the water would be sitting on top of the oil not sure it would be mixed as if it was running
@@baldisaerodynamic9692 Ins job...bet the mileage was created to get more on their ck too.
What a shame to part out this beautiful C4 😢
The rusty brake rotors are a decent sign of flood damage. The car sat in water but it failed to permeate anything more than the lower drive train/brake components. You should sell it complete and let someone repair the components that were damaged. Nice interior!!
I bought a 89 when it was 2 years old, still have it, The car drives, and performs great, is fun to drive and handles amazing. I love it, I have 12 cars in my collection and I just keep adding as I can. In my collection I have a Ferrari, and my 89 vette is every bit as fun as it. I also have a 74 Ford Capri and that car is probably more fun.
Can’t you apply to have the car reinspected to verify it’s not flood damaged?
you can rebuild the title on any flood car in most states easily
Busting up a perfectly good car seems pretty mercenary.
Hi Sam. I interest in the corvette. I would like to make it my daily driver. So I can buy it from you.
please dont let him part it out. Get a good clean 1-2 owner car that runs out good trust me on this one
C4s make great cars for someone just getting into autocross and track day stuff. That would be a great car for that and it would keep it together and extend its life.
Sam my C5 wouldn’t start do to a bad ground underneath the battery tray (4x 13mm bolts) It’s a splice pack ground (one of many). Jump the fuel pump relay with a wire to see if that helps Sage get it running. If that works it’s probably that ground.
Salvage or not its honestly way to nice to part out im sure someone will buy it
the title can be rebuilt and it can be road legal again with an R title
Raffle it off. I think you’ll be shocked what the response will be, hell I’d love to have it. Put that money you make to the next project.
Makes me wonder about insurance companies sometimes.
I think you're on the right track with parting this heap out. On to part 2.
Wow always had a problem with making those connections but that kit is frigging awesome connector it is frigging awesome! 😀
WHERES step mom been at lol?
Only fans
At my house.
Hanging out with Rich rebuilds side chick, 'Lena the plug'.......
She is a pornstar and not hard to find... the mom thing is her gig.
Parting it out would be criminal. Sell to someone please.
When ever you hit a snag stop what your doing and go back to the last decision you made. When you used the acetone in your tank bad idea to let that get though the system. What you should have done is get a garden hose and fill the tank with hot soapy water and then vacuum the tank out and repeat until n till it was clean when it’s dry your set to reinstall the unit. It would be a good idea to remove the filter and blow out the lines with compressed air
If it has been sitting for 7 years, and only had 4k miles, parting it out makes sense. The transmission will probably have seats, seals, o-rings, and components that have also dry rotted through lack of use lubrication and once put back into service, will ultimately require major transmission service work. This is speaking from experience.
The crud that was in the fuel tank is also in the fuel lines and injectors. The small orifices in the injectors may randomly clog, causing rough running issues and CELs.