Nice! i used this solution 5 years ago on my Squier Jazz Bass, there is a lot of friction between the groove neck and truss rod, you need to release this before adjusting with great bending. Take care to do that job. For me , heat solution is not good for frets and fretboard gluing. Good job sir!
Have you ever tried this with a neck bowed the other way? I have a humped neck, forward bow? Dual action truss rod, clockwise increases the forward bow, CCW flattens the neck but not enough. So if I emulate your method here I would get the truss rod adjusted so it's not engaged in either direction, secure the body and the peg head and with a clamp at 7th or 8th put a bow in it in the relief direction, back bow? (I can never keep them straight, no pun!) Then I would tighten the truss rod CCW to the stop, leave it and cross my fingers. I might want to do your hot bag of rice heat treatment as well, or a couple heating pads, given the 2024 price of rice lol! What do you think?
Hi! I have this problem on a mexican Precision. I will do exactly what you did, brilliant solution! Only one question: why you set the truss rod at the max tension while clamping the neck? How about if once restringed the strings tension will pull the neck up again? Thank you!
Because I am putting the neck in an extreme backbow and the truss rod will help it keep that shape when released. You can try it with the truss rod loose and see if it works for you... it might, depends on the neck.
If the truss is very hard to tighten to get the neck Straight do you ever put it on a stand and drop some 3-1 oil down the truss rod and let it sit over night? I did that once and I was able to turn the next day. Another time I did that and still did not move so I dropped some more oil and this time I wrapped a heating pad around the neck and of course both times I slacked the truss rod all the way and the next day I was able to tighten it up and I was able to move the truss rod a lot more and I really cranked on it till I had a slight back bow. I waited a couple of hours before putting strings on it and set it up correctly and I got it to the way I like it. Do you think what I did with the heat and oil did the trick or did I just got lucky because I really turned the wrench a lot harder this time and was not worried about breaking anything. It was my own bass and it was a cheap Ibanez that I bought used and got very cheap because of the neck. I don't know if I would have done that on one of my Vintage Fenders. Sorry for all the questions but do you think that basses are more prone to have a bad bow on the neck then guitars do? Thanks
Basses have more string tension so I do believe they necks can be prone to bowing... oil doesn't usually work on the nut; I would only use a little bit if it was obviously rusted
Interesting way to fix a bow. I usually clamp it to a long aluminium beam and stick it on a heater for 10 to 30 mins. Then leave it clamped over night. Fixes it usually and stays that way.
You know how I do it I tune the guitar and I hold the first fret down and I go to the bottom threats and I hold that down and I use the string as my line the guitar string in the middle is supposed to have enough gap to put a credit card through if you got back bow he probably want to make it straight are usually have my guitar slightly bowed forward and it’s depends on the guitar and if you’re still not getting a clean night I’ll get a bit of sandpaper even with the strings on and I see what’s touching and I just the threats but I Sandingham but usually I takeoff all the strings and suck down all the threats and give it to Sand each one and then I put my strings on and I see what’s touching and I fine-tune it the threats because with his strings on you can see exactly where it’s not a clean night I just loosen them up and pick out the main ones that are interfering if I do this I make the show with the guitar is fully set up the way I want it
He usually have trouble with a truss rod if you’re having a low profile with your strings obviously if you’re making it to slap and you having the strings up hi well nothings going to be touching that for a light set up obviously some adjustments will be made another thing I do is knock off the nut and font unit to 100th of a mil
Anyway I set up all my guitars and I have about 10 and I use the string to hold it down at each end and I check it and you should be able to get a credit card between the string in the middle of the guitar of the board there should be a little gap in the middle always I’ve never made market up buying back you’ll have no gap you won’t be able to get the credit card through and you have to have a credit card fitting in the middle otherwise you’ll get Threat buzz that’s one hell of an expensive guitar as well
Remember that should be a slight bow in the middle enough to get a credit card through otherwise you’ll have Threat buzz A neck of the guitar isn’t designed to be perfectly straight it’s not designed for that otherwise I wouldn’t make it movable
I am not sitting through a 30 minute video on how to do a neck adjustment. Plus, I don’t have all these tools that are needed It’s moments when I have fucking neck issues that I fucking regret ever getting into playing. If I try doing it myself , I know I will fuck ip the instrument permanently making it unplayable. And I’m not taking it to my local guitar guy, who’s been nothing but a prick lately, as most guitar guys are. They all have a serious god complex to go with their soft whispery voices that they all have.:. It’s unreal how they’re all alike 😆
I really enjoyed this video and I learned a new technique for clamping a neck into a back bow. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed the video!
Came here to say this. Great video
Nice! i used this solution 5 years ago on my Squier Jazz Bass, there is a lot of friction between the groove neck and truss rod, you need to release this before adjusting with great bending. Take care to do that job. For me , heat solution is not good for frets and fretboard gluing. Good job sir!
I use the "mechanical" solution first before trying to heat up the neck.
Should bass be stored with strings loose?
@@grantkoeller8911 if you are not going to be playing any stringed instrument for a while, just detune it a half step. No need to loosen the strings
it's a common known fact amongst most Master Luthiers that all precision wood working tools are calibrated to Steve's pointer finger
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this job (mechanically assisting ) is why we're glag we know you 👍
I've tried numerous things on my Ibanez Ergodyne. Since the neck is luthite, not wood, nothing has worked!
@@Pookiestud out of luck, I am afraid
Have you ever tried this with a neck bowed the other way? I have a humped neck, forward bow? Dual action truss rod, clockwise increases the forward bow, CCW flattens the neck but not enough.
So if I emulate your method here I would get the truss rod adjusted so it's not engaged in either direction, secure the body and the peg head and with a clamp at 7th or 8th put a bow in it in the relief direction, back bow? (I can never keep them straight, no pun!) Then I would tighten the truss rod CCW to the stop, leave it and cross my fingers.
I might want to do your hot bag of rice heat treatment as well, or a couple heating pads, given the 2024 price of rice lol! What do you think?
@@oldasrocks9121 theoretically, it should work
Loosen trussrod
Take bass to a professional
@grantkoeller8911 Who are you?
@@oldasrocks9121 professional bassist 49 years
Hi! I have this problem on a mexican Precision. I will do exactly what you did, brilliant solution! Only one question: why you set the truss rod at the max tension while clamping the neck? How about if once restringed the strings tension will pull the neck up again? Thank you!
Because I am putting the neck in an extreme backbow and the truss rod will help it keep that shape when released. You can try it with the truss rod loose and see if it works for you... it might, depends on the neck.
@@ManotickGuitarTech thanks for the answer. Would a middle way work? My neck is seriously bowed
@@gaetanopellinoA middle way?
Interesting stuff -- no heated sock this time ;) Thanks for the video! :)
Did you make the notch yourself for the straight edge used on the base?
That is a beautiful bass
It is a classic look- very nice... a bit heavy, though
If the truss is very hard to tighten to get the neck Straight do you ever put it on a stand and drop some 3-1 oil down the truss rod and let it sit over night? I did that once and I was able to turn the next day. Another time I did that and still did not move so I dropped some more oil and this time I wrapped a heating pad around the neck and of course both times I slacked the truss rod all the way and the next day I was able to tighten it up and I was able to move the truss rod a lot more and I really cranked on it till I had a slight back bow. I waited a couple of hours before putting strings on it and set it up correctly and I got it to the way I like it. Do you think what I did with the heat and oil did the trick or did I just got lucky because I really turned the wrench a lot harder this time and was not worried about breaking anything. It was my own bass and it was a cheap Ibanez that I bought used and got very cheap because of the neck. I don't know if I would have done that on one of my Vintage Fenders. Sorry for all the questions but do you think that basses are more prone to have a bad bow on the neck then guitars do? Thanks
Basses have more string tension so I do believe they necks can be prone to bowing... oil doesn't usually work on the nut; I would only use a little bit if it was obviously rusted
@@ManotickGuitarTech Thanks you for the response.
Interesting way to fix a bow. I usually clamp it to a long aluminium beam and stick it on a heater for 10 to 30 mins. Then leave it clamped over night. Fixes it usually and stays that way.
I told the owner that we would revisit the neck in a few months and see if it needs heat treatment
@@ManotickGuitarTech Good stuff, I hope it's worked with your method!
@@bobsguitarmods so far so good
You know how I do it I tune the guitar and I hold the first fret down and I go to the bottom threats and I hold that down and I use the string as my line the guitar string in the middle is supposed to have enough gap to put a credit card through if you got back bow he probably want to make it straight are usually have my guitar slightly bowed forward and it’s depends on the guitar and if you’re still not getting a clean night I’ll get a bit of sandpaper even with the strings on and I see what’s touching and I just the threats but I Sandingham but usually I takeoff all the strings and suck down all the threats and give it to Sand each one and then I put my strings on and I see what’s touching and I fine-tune it the threats because with his strings on you can see exactly where it’s not a clean night I just loosen them up and pick out the main ones that are interfering if I do this I make the show with the guitar is fully set up the way I want it
good
How long did you keep it clamped down?
About 45mins
@@ManotickGuitarTech Cool, didn't know if you needed to do it overnight or what.
@@larrysdinner overnight is good if you have the time
He usually have trouble with a truss rod if you’re having a low profile with your strings obviously if you’re making it to slap and you having the strings up hi well nothings going to be touching that for a light set up obviously some adjustments will be made another thing I do is knock off the nut and font unit to 100th of a mil
Anyway I set up all my guitars and I have about 10 and I use the string to hold it down at each end and I check it and you should be able to get a credit card between the string in the middle of the guitar of the board there should be a little gap in the middle always I’ve never made market up buying back you’ll have no gap you won’t be able to get the credit card through and you have to have a credit card fitting in the middle otherwise you’ll get Threat buzz that’s one hell of an expensive guitar as well
Remember that should be a slight bow in the middle enough to get a credit card through otherwise you’ll have Threat buzz A neck of the guitar isn’t designed to be perfectly straight it’s not designed for that otherwise I wouldn’t make it movable
What’s a threat buzz? You mean fret buzz??
I had threat buzz on my 1972 ovation, that was a pita!
Neck relief is .012", not a credit card. Google "truss rod" and "feeler gauges".
I am not sitting through a 30 minute video on how to do a neck adjustment. Plus, I don’t have all these tools that are needed
It’s moments when I have fucking neck issues that I fucking regret ever getting into playing. If I try doing it myself , I know I will fuck ip the instrument permanently making it unplayable. And I’m not taking it to my local guitar guy, who’s been nothing but a prick lately, as most guitar guys are. They all have a serious god complex to go with their soft whispery voices that they all have.:. It’s unreal how they’re all alike 😆
Actually, it's only 27mins and 49 secs 😁
Whoa dude hope you find a better tech locally and get your bass fixed so you can chill a bit. Stuff breaks, it happens 😉
That's an ash body I believe.
Ash body