Premier League Title Winners Every Season WITHOUT The 'Big Six'

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  • From Newcastle United and Leeds United in the 1990s to Everton, Burnley, and Wolves in recent years, HITC Sevens takes a look at every hypothetical champion of England during the Premier League without the big six of Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City, and Spurs.
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  • @truthoverlies1820
    @truthoverlies1820 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +151

    Moves did an absolute magnificent job turning Everton from perennial relegation fodder to a regular top 6 side.

    • @insideinside9450
      @insideinside9450 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Moyes=goat

    • @wlfzy7306
      @wlfzy7306 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      thats just been the last 2-3 seasons

    • @iankemp1131
      @iankemp1131 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      They were more mid-table generally in the preceding years, but he still did a fine job on a limited budget.

    • @zombievikinggaming4258
      @zombievikinggaming4258 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@iankemp1131Yeah he bumped them up a fair few places and held them there for a decade just about

    • @truthoverlies1820
      @truthoverlies1820 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@iankemp1131 they finished 15, 17, 14, 13 and 16 in the preceeding years..hardly mid table

  • @BOABModels
    @BOABModels 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +236

    15:15 It shows how recent the 'Big 6' is when in 2003/04, Portsmouth, in their first year in the Prem, finished above Spurs and Man City.

    • @NineHands
      @NineHands 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Tbh I feel like spurs barely count

    • @Rhubarb.and.Crustard
      @Rhubarb.and.Crustard 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      That was 20 years ago to be fair, and I'd argue that in terms of fanbase, Spurs were still a big club at the time, even if they weren't trophy winners (obviously). City surpassed Portsmouth in the league for the next two years after 03-04, and Spurs did it for the next three seasons.

    • @that_flnger
      @that_flnger 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@NineHandsthey consistently make it to the top 5-6, so imo it counts

    • @franohmsford7548
      @franohmsford7548 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      The Big Six is much more recent than that - It was still a Big Four until the early 2010s!
      Spurs only had two Top 6 finishes between 1990 and 2010 {5th in 06 and 07}.
      Man City went 17 seasons without a Top 6 finish between 92 {5th} and 2010 {5th}.
      Everton had 5 Top 6 finishes in that same period.
      Blackburn had 6.
      Newcastle had 7.
      Aston Villa and Leeds United both finished in the Top 6 NINE TIMES!

    • @jeepyyyy
      @jeepyyyy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      For sure, I remember the big 4 but the big 5 and 6 was only in the early 2010s its weird how long people think it was

  • @bababababababa6124
    @bababababababa6124 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +440

    Wolves, Villa, West Ham, Brighton and Newcastle would love this scenario today

    • @matthancock260
      @matthancock260 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Villa are ahead of 2 of the the so called big 5, I refuse to put Tottenham in the category

    • @DylanWard-tb1ee
      @DylanWard-tb1ee 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      as a Villa fan we are winning

    • @DynoKea
      @DynoKea 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@matthancock260Half the league is ahead of Chelsea tbf, so that's not particularly impressive

    • @cbaileyware4650
      @cbaileyware4650 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@matthancock260 you refuse to put the team with the 6th most trophies won in the 6th spot in the group of the teams with the 6th most trophies? Exquisite logic

    • @franohmsford7548
      @franohmsford7548 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Wolves have basically been docked 8 points this season - We'd be 6th...1 point behind Spurs and 4 points ahead of Man U if Refs and VAR hadn't cheated us earlier in the season.
      6 points ahead of Man U if we'd put away just one of the myriad blatant chances we had against them at Old Trafford in August and the clear penalty had been given!

  • @seandelap8587
    @seandelap8587 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +120

    Everton were of course in the original big 5 during the inaugural EPL season alongside Man Utd' Liverpool' Arsenal and Spurs which is really hard to believe nowadays but Everton certainly are a long with very rich tradition and have played more seasons in the English top flight than any other team

    • @JuanCarlosOmar1
      @JuanCarlosOmar1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes this was when English football was real. Now its full of fake plastic dishwasher clubs like chelsea and man city

    • @M1ggins
      @M1ggins 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I can't understand why he excluded Villa.

    • @Linesjointspenaltypoints
      @Linesjointspenaltypoints 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      They’ve not played outside the prem since it’s inception.. which is impressive when you look at how many times they just about escaped 😂

    • @obamaslefteyeball1710
      @obamaslefteyeball1710 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@Linesjointspenaltypointsswear to god if Everton needed to beat Real Madrid to stay up they’d win 5-0

    • @Batcat2022
      @Batcat2022 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@LinesjointspenaltypointsYeah but what have they won? Thats why theyre called Neverton. They never win anything they just linger like a bad odour

  • @Theohunter6808
    @Theohunter6808 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +231

    This video is the example of what would have happened if the super league happened.

    • @jackbrownio3
      @jackbrownio3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Yeah in some ways it would be nice if they just buggered off and let the Prem become the old Division 1. May as well send all the prem teams away as most of them aren't even big clubs these days (who the f supports Luton, Palace, Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton)

    • @hakc97again
      @hakc97again 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      @@jackbrownio3 Palace and Brighton have a sizeable fanbase.

    • @alexanderwright2236
      @alexanderwright2236 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed as a seagull, I can still acknowledge that palace are actually also a big club with a lot of fans and no one shuts up about selhurts park​@@hakc97again

    • @Alfie_1
      @Alfie_1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@jackbrownio3 I know that was hardly meant to be a serious comment haha, but, to be fair, the last Division 1 season did have some big clubs in it, like you know, literally Luton Town and Crystal Palace, Notts County, Oldham, Wimbledon, and in the previous few seasons, clubs like Millwall and Oxford United. I mean, Brentford are probably smaller than all of those clubs, and maybe Bournemouth, but we (Brentford), couldn't really fill our old 11000 seat stadium, so I don't know what'll happen when we get relegated again, now in a 17000 seater stadium.

    • @redboyjan
      @redboyjan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And a collapse of the pyramid below yeah, great

  • @XanderGray1990
    @XanderGray1990 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    God as an Everton fan this was a depressing watch to see how far we've fallen. I'm glad some people could see what an unreal job Moyes did for Everton though. Great video mate.

    • @westhamaremassive8099
      @westhamaremassive8099 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can have him back if you want

    • @kskhas6750
      @kskhas6750 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@westhamaremassive8099 gladly.. you lot really need to be grateful for what he has done for your club, youre sitting in 7th talking about wanting him sacked (js won the conference for west ham)

    • @westhamaremassive8099
      @westhamaremassive8099 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@kskhas6750 grateful for what? Ruining our youth academy being an arrogant idiot. Playing 20% possession dross. You take him you watch that dross because we don’t want to anymore. Anyone could of won that cup in the prem. here’s a stat combined all the teams we played in that competition combined didn’t have a net spend near us. We were favourites by a country mile so anyone could of won that trophy with that squad off players we have the 8th highest spend in the top 5 leagues in Europe. But yes Moyes is the reason we are so good. Not the fact we have paqueta Bowen kudus an overall unreal squad in general no it’s because of David Moyes

  • @adityatiwary2221
    @adityatiwary2221 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Leicester finishing 5th back to back was miraculous looking back at it

    • @andrasszabo1570
      @andrasszabo1570 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      So fucking close to the CL in both years, it must've been such a disappointment to lose it at the last second! 😞

  • @benjc2842
    @benjc2842 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Depressing watch as an Everton fan take me back to those late 2000’s early 2010’s years😢

    • @core_russell3869
      @core_russell3869 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah I would've classified you as part of the big 6 because a lot of them time you was battling for europa league often when you were managed by Moyes and Roberto Martinez

  • @Tricolorrr533
    @Tricolorrr533 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

    Forgot to mention Leeds's greatest achievement in 2000 was Erling Haaland being born there that year

    • @DavidLimofLimReport
      @DavidLimofLimReport 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      A year later, Erling's dad would be mimed by a drunk Irishman in red.

    • @Tricolorrr533
      @Tricolorrr533 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DavidLimofLimReport he wot

    • @jayhall6793
      @jayhall6793 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@DavidLimofLimReport he's a football 2008 fan he will have no idea what your on about because football didn't exist before then

    • @Tricolorrr533
      @Tricolorrr533 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jayhall6793 yes, English football didnt really exist for foreigners before around 2005 tbh

  • @Huayra21
    @Huayra21 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    So basically what we have gathered is that the new big six is Villa, Newcastle, Blackburn, Leeds, Leicester and Everton are the new big 6, whilst Southampton was the 7 team that was always in the league but never really close of winning, (such as the current Everton)

  • @seandelap8587
    @seandelap8587 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    How about Scottish league winners without Celtic or Rangers that would be an interesting one perhaps Hearts vs Hibernian would become the new old firm

    • @robcurley2585
      @robcurley2585 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Going back to season 1985/86 with 1984/85 being the last time someone outside of Celtic / Rangers won there would have been 8 different winners. Aberdeen would have been champions 12 times, Hearts 11 times, Motherwell 6 times, Hibs & Dundee Utd 3 times and finally Kilmarnock, St Johnstone & Livingston all winning 1 title each.

    • @LuigiLuigi728
      @LuigiLuigi728 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Spanish league winners without Real Madrid, Barca and Atletico; German league winners without Bayern and Dortmund; French league winners without PSG; Portuguese league winners without Benfica, Porto and Sporting Lisbon

  • @lucaslonchampt613
    @lucaslonchampt613 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +155

    Day 21 of asking a "What Went Right for Stade Brestois?" Video
    This is currently, by far, the best season in club history, one which could result in their first ever qualification for Europe in over 70 years of existence. There's a fascinating story to tell, from going bankrupt and slowly climbing back, to various great names that played there such as Ribéry, Makélélé or José Luis Brown, to the story of the Brest president going up against the Colombian drug cartel. Plus, you can have a lot of Brest related puns.
    Would love to see that concept for other leagues, such as Spain

    • @akunwanneprosper7016
      @akunwanneprosper7016 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Didn't Lens do the same last season?

    • @lucaslonchampt613
      @lucaslonchampt613 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@akunwanneprosper7016 I would argue that this is more impressive in Brest's case as Lens are former French champions, have had impressive European runs in the past and has a bigger budget than Brest who has the 15th budget in France

    • @dazwold
      @dazwold 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Is Alfie a Liege or a Brest man?

    • @Eric_Hunt194
      @Eric_Hunt194 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dazwold or Arse(nal)?

    • @SuperDuperHappyTime
      @SuperDuperHappyTime 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I will happily admit that I am a Brest Man.

  • @RyuzakiTaiyou
    @RyuzakiTaiyou 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +114

    Best German players in the premier league of all time. (Day 609)
    I will not give up until the video is made or Alfie himself tells me to stop. Everyone else telling me that will be ignored.
    If you don't believe my number, just go back to the previous videos. I'm at the bottom most of the time, but I'm there.

    • @keeganlubbe2470
      @keeganlubbe2470 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hell yeah great idea

    • @zorojuro9814
      @zorojuro9814 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I rate the dedication ngl

    • @benreed4957
      @benreed4957 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I don't care about the subject of the video but I feel you have earned it. Go on Alfie!

    • @joachimhovgaardramlau3064
      @joachimhovgaardramlau3064 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are back with it lol

    • @Friddsch
      @Friddsch 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We are krauts, do not expect that XD

  • @nathanjgtaylor1985
    @nathanjgtaylor1985 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I remember the first premier league season, especially being a villa fan. UTV!
    Thoroughly enjoyed the video Alfie.

  • @thejungwookim
    @thejungwookim 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    *Alternative Video Idea:*
    Premier League winners if each previous winner was removed

    • @SuperDuperHappyTime
      @SuperDuperHappyTime 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      The year is 2099, and Spurs have finished 2nd yet again.

    • @DM_Andy
      @DM_Andy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you did that, then the 2022/23 winner would have been Brentford as the only PL winner that hadn't won it before and this year's winner would be Luton as the only PL team left that hadn't won it before. The favourites for 2024/25 would be Hull, Norwich or Preston.

    • @yatman6305
      @yatman6305 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@DM_Andy probably Southampton actually

    • @DM_Andy
      @DM_Andy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@yatman6305 If the PL winners couldn't win again then Southampton would have won it in 13/14, Leeds in 99/00, Ipswich in 00/01, Leicester not until 15/16, West Brom in 11/12.

    • @yatman6305
      @yatman6305 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DM_Andy it's a little confusing really, when you word it like: " if the teams that would have won the league but didn't already did..."

  • @BlueandWhiteArmyBRFC
    @BlueandWhiteArmyBRFC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    As a Blackburn Rovers fan I can safely say I would be more than happy if this was the universe we lived in

  • @kieranlowcock6905
    @kieranlowcock6905 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Can't believe there was no 'Further Adu'joke in the video... devastated

  • @charleslincoln7147
    @charleslincoln7147 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is one of my favorite ever vids of yours Alfie. Love it. Thanks

  • @cd1051
    @cd1051 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The rate that these high quality videos get pumped outs at is insane

  • @kozukizaki8675
    @kozukizaki8675 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Solid video idea Alf, always thinking outside the box. Keep up the good work.
    I'd like to ask if you could incorporate more players'nicknames? I think it's a shame the English side of the game doesn't partake in it as much, as say the Latin side.
    I'm sure as you go, you'll find more obscure ones, but for now I'll give ya 5, and whoever you mention in the video.
    Di María - El Fideo (The noodle, because he's skinny)
    Enzo - La Perla (The pearl)
    Ivan Zamorano - Bam Bam (He liked the Flintstones as a kid)
    Gary Medal - Pitbull (Yeah)
    Cade Cowell - El vaquero (The cowboy, this one is interesting because it's so recent, but he's really taken to it since he's moved and he's become a fan favorite. )

  • @dev0nSA1nt
    @dev0nSA1nt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    CHAMPIONS 2014/15 🥲❤️🤍❤️🤍

    • @connorarendse1202
      @connorarendse1202 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Chelsea in 2014/15!

    • @dev0nSA1nt
      @dev0nSA1nt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@connorarendse1202 have you seen the video??

    • @connorarendse1202
      @connorarendse1202 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@dev0nSA1nt missed sunderland!

    • @dev0nSA1nt
      @dev0nSA1nt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@connorarendse1202 what??

    • @henmp4225
      @henmp4225 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      frrrrrrrr

  • @MrGAMERBOY300
    @MrGAMERBOY300 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @HITC, rate the top 10 series. But the What on earth is going on at... and the deep dives into Countries are top tier lad.
    Love from New Zealand. Keep it up!!! It's always red panty night when you drop

  • @AF-bk2bw
    @AF-bk2bw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alfie dropping another banger. Any morning I see a new vid I know the day will be good.

  • @ryoryo9936
    @ryoryo9936 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I guess I’m going to have to be that guy, but to be really true to the mission of this video, you’d have to deduct every point that teams got from the Big 6 clubs instead of just looking at the real world table. But I appreciate that it probably would’ve been way too much work.

  • @hammers1966
    @hammers1966 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I remember seeing the statistics for the 20/21 season after the Super League episode, if you took out all the big 6's results, West Ham would actually have more points than Leicester.

    • @stalfithrildi5366
      @stalfithrildi5366 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was wondering if this way of doing it would look different, glad to see it confirmed already

  • @connorarendse1202
    @connorarendse1202 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Premier league, la liga and bundesliga have missed the teams you know over the years!

  • @AntoniusTyas
    @AntoniusTyas 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Newcastle's Robson era was some of the greatest campaign The Magpies have done, especially with the likes of Given, Bellamy, Shearer, Lua-lua and Ameobi.

    • @nickkilty2842
      @nickkilty2842 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You’re forgetting solano and Robert who are so underrated

  • @RVDv1
    @RVDv1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    As a Spurs fan, I dont recognise that we are treated the same way as Liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and Man City.
    We have gradually built our way into a position where we can more or less safely assume a top 8 finish every year, but we never start the season with a real prospect of winning the league.

    • @SilvaRiz
      @SilvaRiz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      We got to a UCL final off the back of signing one player in three windows
      Everton spent 200m a season on dross, and we’re the rich bad guys

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It seems Spurs are on a place all of their own, just below the top 5 but above everyone else. Good idea for a video though... "are Spurs really part of the big 6"? _Sit back, relax and join me on a journey to North London..._ 😄

  • @mustardking20
    @mustardking20 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the Villa on FIFA reference. Those years were what made me a Villa fan (as a yank) and I’ve been along for the ride ever since.

  • @thelastgreataudit8112
    @thelastgreataudit8112 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    God that Big Sam Bolton team was good. Reason I'm a Bolton fan to this day. Its... its been rough.

  • @gm2407
    @gm2407 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In fairness the last time the top flight of English football was unpredictable season to season was the 70s. Title winners, Arsenal, Derby, Everton, Leeds, Liverpool, Nottingham Forest and even then Liverpool became dominant by the end. But come to think about it, Bob Paisley made the 70s less predictable than 1960s top flight.

  • @jacopobn1659
    @jacopobn1659 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lovely video as always for Alfie! Does someone know channels who do similar videos, maybe also for serie A or other league?

  • @cindella204
    @cindella204 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting video! I didn't fully appreciate that the one year I was living in East London was that exact season where we won the "non-big 6" table - I was mad we dropped under Man United during their banter era.

    • @Hi5GhostMUFC
      @Hi5GhostMUFC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s cuz Man Utd at their worst are still a better club and team than Wet Spam, lol

  • @cajeeofkitagawa4361
    @cajeeofkitagawa4361 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for recognising Beckford. Quality Striker. Loved him at Leeds. MOT

  • @bubblebubble1058
    @bubblebubble1058 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It'd be a lot of work but I'd be curious if the results remain the same when you remove the matches against the 'big six'

  • @ZoePengers
    @ZoePengers 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    how, as a spurs fan, have you managed to rob me of even more titles by choosing the big 6 instead of just former winners

    • @PHDiaz-vv7yo
      @PHDiaz-vv7yo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah - I was dwelling on this - Apparently we are a big club!!
      In all seriousness - before The FA Cup lost its lustre and it was all about winning the league or Premier League - Spurs were regarded as a big club because of the FA Cup. It’s been 33 yrs since we won my favourite trophy. But some won’t care because it’s not the Premier League or UCL. Crazy in that everyone bangs on about the trophies but if we won The Europa Conference it won’t be good enough for a team like Spurs (according to some media types)

  • @indiekiddrugpatrol3117
    @indiekiddrugpatrol3117 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a fellow Englishmen who despises the Premier League and all that comes with it, I love this video.

  • @studentloandebt7598
    @studentloandebt7598 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    isn't the Aston villa owner like the richest outside of Man City and Newcastle?

    • @albertbrammer9263
      @albertbrammer9263 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Either him or the Arsenal owner.

    • @albertbrammer9263
      @albertbrammer9263 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Sovereign wealth funds should never have been allowed to own clubs.

  • @EstebanMataVargas
    @EstebanMataVargas 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In the last five years the "most unpredictable league" has been won four times by the same club.

  • @jesuisunstroopwafel
    @jesuisunstroopwafel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imagine if Alfie also had to cover all pre-PL seasons as well.

  • @nickjeffery536
    @nickjeffery536 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just wondering... when compiling this video, did you go purely based on final league positions each year, or did you actually remove each team's results versus the Big Six? In many cases it would have made no difference, but it may have done on some occasions...

    • @gm2407
      @gm2407 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would have done it the way you said, but I got the impression Alfie just went by league position, as he is the sort of person to say if he does something more conveluted. Oddly enough I would have expected Alfie to go the extra mile, because it is something he often does. If I was being cruel I would say I am disappointed in him. But I am not; and this was still entertaining.

  • @ErinStephanie-mf2qk
    @ErinStephanie-mf2qk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    In sum. Before the Premier League , it was a big five (Liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal, Everton & Spurs). During the 90s, Everton and Spurs dropped back to mid table, at best. Leeds, Blackburn, Villa and Newcastle competed at the top end on a semi regular basis - before most dropped back by the end of the decade. Chelsea, for the first time since the early 70s, rejoined the elite in the late 90s - cemented further by the Abramovich takeover. For most of the 2000s, it was a big four (Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool). Man City, and following in their slipstream, Spurs, come up at the beginning of the 2010s, to turn it into a big six. Everton, Leicester, Villa and Newcastle have tried occasionally to crack the elite at different points in the last 12 years, but not on a consistent enough basis. And that is where we are now.

    • @JuanCarlosOmar1
      @JuanCarlosOmar1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      chelsea was never a big club even in the early 70s. Before they started cheating in 1995 they had 4 trophies in their 90 year history, spent a third of their history in the lower leagues, had an avg top flight league position of 13th and regularly played in front of crowds of 8,000 people. They are more comparable to a wimbledon or charlton level club.

    • @ErinStephanie-mf2qk
      @ErinStephanie-mf2qk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JuanCarlosOmar1 Not one to defend Chelsea myself. But between the mid 60s and early 70s, they were mostly in the top five, and finishing as London’s top side regularly. They were having a purple patch in winning trophies, and were regularly in the top six for top flight attendances. Similar to Spurs since 2009 (accept for the trophy bit). Most historians of English football agree, Chelsea were a big club in that period. As for the low attendances. That was in the late 70s and early 80s, where they spent huge chunks in Div2.

  • @bentarbuck6161
    @bentarbuck6161 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Of all the videos made to take the pressure off as you research something deeper, this is certainly one of them

  • @marctestarossa
    @marctestarossa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A "Big Six"? Sounds like a dream for the German football fan, having Bayern München win the Bundesliga for 10 years now, only being somewhat rivaled by Borussia Dortmund.

  • @Joeyplaysguitar1082
    @Joeyplaysguitar1082 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alfie’s Freddy Adu joke gives me so much joy

  • @highentropy2468
    @highentropy2468 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Blows my mind why you haven't yet featured my team Ipswich in a video. So much to talk about there.

  • @1630revelloify
    @1630revelloify 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm going to be a pain, but if you're serious about recalibrating the table without the 'top 6', you should remove the results of the remaining teams against those six in order to work out the real 'winners'. Also, as you say, the notion of the 'big 6' has changed over time, so it's slightly unfair to include Man City (and Chelsea pre-Abaramovic) in the early years, while excluding Blackburn and Newcastle who were among the biggest teams in England at the time.

  • @Jeff_2x
    @Jeff_2x 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hopefully one day this could sort of become the norm. Prem and other top 5 leagues NEED more competition like this to happen more often

  • @vorakitlertackakorn2827
    @vorakitlertackakorn2827 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    How about La Liga without the big 3 (Real Madrid, Barcelona & Atletico Madrid)?

  • @paddyw65
    @paddyw65 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:24 you really have a way with words alfie

  • @elliebellieboo
    @elliebellieboo 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Northampton mentioned 💪💪

  • @shanemcnee2638
    @shanemcnee2638 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Alfie, I have a video idea for you - with Liverpool’s Caribao Cup winning team containing three sons of Premier League players, maybe you could do the 7 best nepo babies (headed by Maldini?) or the 7 worst (and you could add your own perspective on whether Alex Bruce wins this one!)

  • @Eric_Hunt194
    @Eric_Hunt194 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Another suggestion: Independent Yorkshire XI if all eligible players declared allegiance.

    • @ILikedGooglePlus
      @ILikedGooglePlus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also independent Cornish XI, see how they'd do against San Marino
      Or give them Devon as well so they could have Ollie Watkins: the pride of Newton Abbot

  • @sp0nge1337
    @sp0nge1337 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    5000-1 baybee! That was such a miraculous year, the right people in the right place at the right time as the top 6 falter.

  • @GrumpyOldGit-zk1kw
    @GrumpyOldGit-zk1kw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As interesting as this scenario is, it should be remembered that the owners, managers, and players of the missing big six would/could been involved among the other clubs (and national leagues).

  • @anthonyjozefek7666
    @anthonyjozefek7666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alfie, what was your method?
    Did you remove the results/points all teams got against the Big 6?
    Did/would that method have created a different result than just using the "highest finishing non-Big 6" team?

  • @TheKoonLoquendo
    @TheKoonLoquendo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly lads, I don't really understand why we still consider Spurs as part of the "Big Six" if the last official title they won was back in 2008 (16 years ago) and historically had only won 2 league titles. This is clearly about the financial power rather than sporting achievements.

  • @montanaprime
    @montanaprime 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The English Top Flight has always been interesting starting with Big 5, then Top 4, now it’s Big 6. Soon we shall witness new or evolved players.

  • @LordZontar
    @LordZontar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "It's this degree of chaos and excitement that should happen every season that makes football fun."
    To which the Lords of the English Game said "Well, we can't have any of THAT, now can we?"

  • @adamwhatdoyamean9297
    @adamwhatdoyamean9297 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This isn’t title winners without top six, this is the highest finishing team excluding the top six, you would have to take out the results against the big six to get a true result. Come on Alfie I thought you put more effort in to your video than this

  • @PorterStats3
    @PorterStats3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All these people saying Tottenham shouldn’t be in the big six yet they finish in the top 6 most seasons. They also have brilliant facilities and a lot of money, silly people.

  • @user-bw9sf5yt7c
    @user-bw9sf5yt7c 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    would be interesting (but time consuming) to work this out with the points from games vs top 6 teams in it. Basically making a 14 team league table

  • @naseriiradukunda5866
    @naseriiradukunda5866 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love your intros

  • @danielwebb8402
    @danielwebb8402 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chaos and excitement = fun so....
    Just play heads or tails for game result. Maximum excitement.

  • @jackbrownio3
    @jackbrownio3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Suggestion: Similar video for other leagues, or for other cup competitions

  • @ethanwalshe766
    @ethanwalshe766 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Probably a lot more work, but it would be interesting to see what the results of this would be if every result against Big 6 teams were removed from the final points totals as well

  • @owenfitzgerald5928
    @owenfitzgerald5928 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The main take away I took from this is that Moyes is insane

  • @davidukuame2334
    @davidukuame2334 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Summary for those too lazy to watch the whole video: more than 90% of the teams here are Everton, Aston villa, Blackburn, Leeds, Leicester city and Newcastle

  • @Pieroxcing
    @Pieroxcing 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Babe wake up! Alfie just posted 🔥

  • @eliandthatsit
    @eliandthatsit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remeber that Burnley season so well. I trust Vinny but man do I miss Dyche

  • @rhystight9519
    @rhystight9519 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is David Moyes’ world and we’re all just living in it

  • @Buffalo31
    @Buffalo31 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Don't think that the stats were adjusted for the teams not playing the top 6.

  • @someguynamedmike4766
    @someguynamedmike4766 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Off topic but what are people's thoughts on how Luton will do in the Champ next season? (Lets be honest they're going down which is no shame considering budget & the shambles of the 2 'better' promoted teams) personally I think they'll float around mid table with the big players they'll lose & I don't think many players 'too you'd for the level will trust they can go back up

    • @Eric_Hunt194
      @Eric_Hunt194 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not over 'til it's over... the so-called experts said they'd be down before the Christmas decorations but they're the best performing promoted team. There's also the small matter of a possible (deserved) points deduction for Nottingham Forest. The fat lady hasn't even warmed up yet, let alone started singing.

  • @AmazinJ89
    @AmazinJ89 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Possibly video idea - which cities have the most professional clubs, so London has 7 in the prem, 1 in the champ, 2 in league 1 and 2 in league 2. So that's 12 London clubs in our professional leagues. I know you could also include 5 from the national league and 1 from but those leagues aren't considered professional like the 92

    • @jackjude
      @jackjude 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      2 in the Champ (Millwall and QPR). Buenos Aires has the most globally with 24

    • @AmazinJ89
      @AmazinJ89 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jackjude wow, they have 24 professional teams, are they all in Argentine professional league structures?

    • @jackjude
      @jackjude 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AmazinJ89 from what I can tell 18 are currently in professional leagues. Wiki "Football in Buenos Aires" , the last club in this list play in _Primera D Metropolitana_ which is amateur. Maybe the 24 is a world record for having 24 at some point? I suppose the boundary of what is considered Buenos Aires could also be a factor?

  • @Midtable1881
    @Midtable1881 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A great video would be FA/League Cup finals and winners since 2000 without the big six.

  • @danieleatwell7757
    @danieleatwell7757 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This would be so much better than what we have now!

  • @mateuszzielezinski6069
    @mateuszzielezinski6069 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The polish Ekstraklsa is kind of like the 1992/93 PL season. But here everyone is so mediocre that every score is always possible. Lechia was fighting for the championship only to drop down year later with the same squad nearly and also every few years a random club like Piast wins the league only to struggle to not go down in the following year

  • @yeoscore
    @yeoscore 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it’s crazy that it costs 8x more to watch them prem on tv in england than it does in the states. peacock is $5 a month and gets you the prem and also top flight rugby

  • @Ugu09
    @Ugu09 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder how much the table would change (and if it would change at all) if we would also remove the points of the matches the big 6 were involved in

  • @YouAimYourArrowsHigh
    @YouAimYourArrowsHigh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Including Newcastle in the "Rich 7" is assuming FFP isn't a thing. The owners' hands are tied, it's why we had to sell Saint Maximin, get Hall on a loan to buy, couldn't buy anyone in January, and Dan Ashworth has thrown his toys out the pram.
    To finish 4th with a squad including the likes of Jacob Murphy, Miguel Almiron, Sean Longstaff and Dan Burn is crazy. I'd say only Leicester winning the league is a bigger shock in the last 10 years.
    I admire Alfie for always taking a moral approach with his videos, and that's partly why he's one of my fave football content creators. But I would be interested to know what he would do if his beloved Hull City got bought out by a state. It's a catch 22 for Newcastle fans, and I'm sure it's the same for Man Utd fans in regards to the possibility of Mason Greenwood returning.

    • @listey
      @listey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Of course Newcastle are rich. You'd have to be an idiot to think otherwise.

  • @B3Band
    @B3Band 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Before watching the video, I specifically remember that the second half of Crystal Palace's season under Tony Pulis, we were really good at beating every other club in the league EXCEPT the big six (in fact we were top of the table if you excluded the top 8's results). I wonder how high up we would be with just the top 6 removed.
    And then the first (full) season under Roy Hodgson was the complete opposite. We upset the Big Six repeatedly and lost to the teams at the bottom of the table.
    EDIT: Oh, you literally just checked the table to see who was closest to the top. That's boring. I was hoping for some actual data analysis.

  • @Ariurotl
    @Ariurotl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    God I miss the days when Spurs were a midtable club. Curse you ENIC and Levy for ruining everything, I hope your own fans chase you out as soon as possible. They could really use their own Todd Boehly.

    • @carltonleboss
      @carltonleboss 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Found the Arsenal fan

    • @Ariurotl
      @Ariurotl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@carltonlebossGuess again :)

  • @VictorPortilla1018
    @VictorPortilla1018 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, Tottenham, Everton, Aston Villa, Newcastle…

  • @PhilippeRomero
    @PhilippeRomero 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unless I am mistaken, there's a methodology error: if you want to figure out who would win the league without the big 6, you'd need to discount all points taken against said big 6, to eliminate any crappy patch of form from one of them. Not sure it'd make a huge difference, but that could actually be interesting

  • @BALHAM69
    @BALHAM69 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    #thepeopleschannel a video on the Bangladesh premier league and the rise of Bashundhara kings would be good
    A team who went into the top flight after promotion and won the last four league titles now!
    Are they the next Newcastle? Are they a team to keep a eye on next few years? Thanks Alfie 😊

  • @albertbrammer9263
    @albertbrammer9263 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If we take Newcastle as an example, people complain under PSR that they cannot spend big. BUT their Stadium can be either upgraded and enlarged, increasing revenue. They can invest heavily in their Academy. They can look at ways to increase revenue. None of that involves PSR.

  • @DavidLimofLimReport
    @DavidLimofLimReport 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Big six should really be a big ten and include Newcastle, Leeds, Aston Villa and Everton/Blackburn.

  • @zuhayershadmankhan9870
    @zuhayershadmankhan9870 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So basically Leeds, Newcastle and Everton are by far the big 3 in this scenario.

  • @carnifex2005
    @carnifex2005 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ridsdale was like me at the blackjack table in Vegas.

    • @albertbrammer9263
      @albertbrammer9263 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, and Leeds went bust too.

    • @conshea7382
      @conshea7382 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can thank Ridsdale for all the FFP stuff now thats his legacy

  • @SirLudvigL
    @SirLudvigL 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should really do a "seven" of coaches who had a direct contribution on a team/group of players which spilled over on their national team.
    For example, Roy Hogdson coached Malmö FF in Sweden and in a time where Swedish players wasn't full time footballers, he made a group of youngsters full timers. They then got a heavy advantage, performed well and was the spine of our national team in Euro '92 on home soil and World Cup '94 with a bronze medal as reward.
    The players in question was Patrik Andersson and Roger Ljung in the backline, Jonas Thern, maybe the most underrated Swede outside Sweden and Stefan Schwarz as our central midfield duo and last but not least Martin Dahlin. The man who's goals took Sweden to the World Cup in question, in a time where the ultimate Star, Tomas Brolin had a down period with Sweden.
    Hopefully there are other examples like that and I wouldn't consider the class of '92 as such an example since England didn't win anything and that their journey with United is already well documented.

  • @straightouttazambia2835
    @straightouttazambia2835 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you do a similar video for La Liga (without the big 3) and the Bundesliga without Bayern

  • @davidspear9790
    @davidspear9790 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you expunge all the results of matches involving the 'big 6'?. This could have an effect on where 'the rest' finished.

  • @tdyerwestfield
    @tdyerwestfield 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've always wondered why Everton and Newcastle have had a long-running hatred of each other. This video explains exactly why. They're battling for best of the rest.

  • @afraidofbridges4053
    @afraidofbridges4053 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you should make a video about the romanian club dinamo bucharest who were basically the romanian arsenal up until a few years ago and now are the romanian norwich

  • @mwallace997
    @mwallace997 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The 7 best trophy-less seasons

  • @T.E.S.S.
    @T.E.S.S. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Still no Barry Vennison, but a mention of Stan Staunton will do I suppose

  • @misty_gg
    @misty_gg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The old premier league in the 90’s reminds me of how the Brazilian serie A is today - very unpredictable with teams that were promoted one season leading the league that same season like Botafogo and almost even Grêmio

    • @jackjude
      @jackjude 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Blackburn were majorly bankrolled. What was the other team, Newcastle? It was pretty rare still. Man Utd and Arsenal dominated

  • @subparnaturedocumentary
    @subparnaturedocumentary 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @21:19 it's the very nice philadelphia unions stadium. DOOP!

  • @RoccoSKE777
    @RoccoSKE777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You Should make a Video Like the What is going At Malaga one you made but About The Turkish Team Bursaspor The Team Who played Man Utd in the Champions League in 2010/11 Ever since then Bursaspor have been Relegated 3 time and are now Bottom of the Third Division in the Turkish league I thought this would be a Good video idea I don’t know

    • @RoccoSKE777
      @RoccoSKE777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bursaspor won the Turkish League in 2010 then played Man UTD in the champions league and now In 2024 Last Of the Turkish 3rd division

  • @randomhooman3236
    @randomhooman3236 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    alfie not cracking that adu pun after saying "without further ado" doesn't feel so right

    • @ryany6776
      @ryany6776 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah we really need that🥲