Classical Composer Reacts to JUDAS PRIEST: VICTIM OF CHANGES | The Daily Doug (Episode 726)
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In this #metalmonday edition of #thedailydoug, I'm returning to the music of Judas Priest with their classic Victim of Changes. I almost went for a newer live version of this song, but I ended up going to the original studio recording. I loved the heavy riffs, the progressive song structure, and the soaring vocals. I hope you enjoy as well!
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"I can't even think that high!"
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LMAO!
That one got me too. :D
Made my day, lol
I can. When I'm high.
Next one: Beyond realms of death 😊
Way overdue!
You thought this was proggy...
Definetly
Yes! I agree. BTROD next!
Just like early Scorpions, the 70’s albums were more prog
Whereas the 80’s grew more anthemic, simplistic and riff driven
My favorite priest song
For next Priest one I suggest "Beyond The Realms of Death". Beautiful melodies from Rob and a timeless guitar solo!
Excellent suggestion! I couldn't agree more. The Ripper, especially from Unleashed in the East, is another
I was going to say the same thing... Love that song.
I contend that Glenn's solo is one of the greatest rock solos of all time.
Totally agree. I play in a Priest band...and think about that solo..it's 1978, and Disco is king at the time...KISS, Styx, Boston and Glenn writes this masterpiece solo.
Time was, I listened to that daily. I used to make compilation tapes in the 80s. That was always after Iron Maiden's "Hallowed Be Thy Name" and before Candlemass "Through the Infinite Halls of Death". Those were the days.
The best way to tell which guitar player is which in solos is usually; Glen is the professor & KK is the madman
Great description
K.K. = Chaotic Good. Glen = Melodic Good.
K.K is the whammy bar master 💪🏻
This has been my favorite song and album of Judas Priest for almost 50 years now. Watching Rob sing this years later is extremely impressive. They were finally inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in 2022 and he performed this then, at 70 years old. His voice had some limitations, as would be expected, but 15 years earlier he was still able to able to reach the full range.
Metal gods for sure!
The live version on Unle ashed in the East is the best. Japanese sound engineers did a STELLAR job (even if the vocals were re-recorded in studio as Halford caught a cold before the gig)
Exactly right. Every song on Unleashed in the East is awesome. For me, one of the greatest metal albums of all time.
DITTO. Unleashed in the East was my first Priest album and it's perfect.
@@FeralPatrick Yeah, maybe should I re-learn to play some stuff from it, as well as Out in the Cold: at the time, I didn't owned a G-synth. JP is really fun stuff to play.
Yep the version of Tyrant on Unleashed is just epic- Ian's bass sounds amazing!
That's still my favorite JP record. It's basically the pre-British Steel best of.
Run of the Mill would be a great one, actually underrated
Brilliant song
Brilliant album!@@brucedickinson12
One of my very favorites!
OOOohhhhhhhh yes!!!!!!!!!
That's the best song from the first album 🤘🤘🤘
Quintessential metal song. When I was a young teenager, a TV commercial for a heavy metal record store used the end of this song as the background music. I had no idea who it was, but I knew I had to find the whole album! Decades later I saw them perform at a relatively small indoor venue, with a stadium sized PA. Even wearing ear plugs, it was almost unbearably loud.
Another musician who was part of the recording of this song was Chris Campbell who backed out of the band because he didn't want to tour. He chose to be a studio musician instead. He has remained involved in Judas Priest ever since. It's his Electronic Kit heard on the Turbo Lover album. He and his wife still make sure the hotel and meal requests are met during the tours. Back in the early days, Chris Campbell's wife would cook for the band when promotors and venues wouldn't feed them. She always had Jerk chicken, rice&beans ready when they got home and that never changed. Even when the band moved to New York City, Chris and his wife arrived out of the blue and took them grocery shopping and made sure their refrigerators were full. Glenn Tipton has said "we could finally afford steak dinner at a steakhouse every night but she still filled our homes up with groceries and she always brought that home energy with her everywhere she went. I think she still has a key to my house".
That's for sharing that cool info onto us ‼️ 🤘🔥🤘
The 1982 live vengeance in Memphis is what you want if you're looking for a proper live version of priest in their absolute prime. That whole concert is heavy metal 101.
Oh, early Priest is what is great about Priest. The sound/ the tone is just awesome. Great stuff on their earlier albums. saw this performed live in May of '84. it was awesome!
Gotta listen to it live . They pick up the tempo a bit , and he still hits that ending scream, saw him live 2 years ago and it was electric !
Victim of changes from Unleashed in the East is the BEST live version. It is even better than the studio version - faster, more raw and aggressive... And Rob's vocal are so theatrical and artistic... Later (80s) his singing is more brutal and aggressive, and not so colorful... So - the entire Unleashed in the East is the crown jewel for all their works from the more progressive 70s albums. This album never stops to amaze me, even after so many years!
This song along with Beyond the Realms of Death from Stained Class are my two favorites. Both have such a great melodic departure from their normal metal sound.
Definitely my favorite Priest album.
mine too.
same mate
Same ...but sin, stained, and vengence are very close for me
@@gypsysteve3576 Sin, stained and rocka rolla are close for me. I saw their vengeance tour. couldn't hear until 5th period, in school, the next day
mine aswell, easily their best in my opinion.
I've never clicked on a video so fast. Something awesome about Priest is that they have two lead guitarists. Both Glenn and KK aould alternate constantly with solos and whatnot and would often harmonize with the riffs
We saw Rob nail this less than 2 years ago. True, the band tunes down half a step live nowadays but it was still damned impressive. If you really want to see Priest at the height of their compositional powers in a harmonic sense you should check ot Exciter. Some absolutely crazy stuff going on there. Cheers!
I don’t even think of this song as a metal song, it has such a Rock and Roll groove. I prefer this studio rendition over the much heavier and definitely metal version they play live in their concerts
Metal =
Psychedelic Rock +
Blues Rock +
Hard Rock
This song is one of the best examples
Forgot jazz. Black Sabbath is super jazzy. Half the solos are straight up jazz with a bluesy twist and a lot of gain over groovy drums and heavy bass. Django Rheinhardt is all over Tony's playing.
@@user-lv7ph7hs7l I'd say the element your speaking to is the experimental/experimenting angle of jazz, which I'd say is very present in psychedelic rock aswell.
Not denying jazz is an element, I just think it's much less clear/direct than the three I listed
@@TheCruxy I disagree strongly. Every early Sabbath song played without distortion is super jazzy. And I don't mean the sound I mean from a music theory aspect. Scales, chord progressions, melodies, rythm etc... Bill Wards drumming is 100% heavy swing. Jazz is all over metal. If you don't hear listen to more jazz. It's a very broad category, if you don't listen to it and just have the cliché jazz songs in your head okay but if you actually listen to jazz it's quite obvious. Tony Iommi would not have started Black Sabbath without Django Reinhardt. He gave up playing and fell into depression before he heard Django play. No jazz, no Black Sabbath, no Black Sabbath no metal. And it's not psychedelic rock it's Hendrix specifically. Everyone took over his style, which included the heavy riffs with as much distortion as Sabbath would use, though Hendrix used a fuzz pedal not an overdrive like most later. But you can say that of any guitarist. There is before Hendrix when people played like Chuck Berry or BB King and there is after Hendrix, which is how everyone plays today. Metal, blues, rock doesn't matter. He wrote one of the main books on the electric guitar. Now I've only studied music and played electric guitar for 19 years, my first song being War Pigs and I studied jazz theory. This is my opinion you may disagree.
Metal = Blues, Jazz, Rock and later classical elements in the late 70s.
Psych rock influence is just Hendrix. Because everyone played like him afterwards. Clapton, Beck, Iommi, Downing, Tipton... KK is basically Hendrix reinterpreted. His solos are all Hendrix....
Hard rock evolved side by side. It's roots are in Rock n Roll. The chord progressions are all different.
And music didn't begin the day the album was published the musicians who made them learned to play long before that.
Tony Iommi Nr1 influence? The Shadows. It's why he played a Strat! Until he broke a string and got the SG he never played and P90s into his Laney stack along with the Dallas Rangemaster Treble booster is the Black Sabbath guitar sound and the Sabbath guitar tone is metal. Every metal band copied that style of high gain sound.
Early Maiden, Priest, Zeppelin, it's all the same equipment. Humbuckers or P90s, into an SLP1959 boosted by an OD.
And Tony's Laney amps are just boutique versions of what Marshall was doing along with a few mods.
@@TheCruxy So actually I disagree with all three of your choices for what made metal. Blues rock is already a fusion, it's not a root influence as is hard rock but I explained how that one is questionable. And no one would ever say psychedelic rock. It's Hendrix and a bunch of people who copied him and that was called psych rock because reasons... ask any guitarist. Most probably don't even know what psychedelic rock is. It's like going out of your way to say Hendrix without saying his name.
It's not Hendrix! It's a dude with a big afro, playing a Strat through a fuzz into a Plexi and doing things to the guitar no one had ever done before. Okay. You can just say Hendrix...
His guitar sound, live, it's metal. It's so much gain the amp is near death. Even Jimmy Page's tone was downright tame compared to Hendrix (live). It's almost Randy Rhoads. He used an MXR Dist+ into a modded Plexi and humbuckers but a fuzz and a distortion pedal ate closely related both being soft clipping boost circuits, if I remember. But same type of "amp about to detonate" sound. Which is what metal is.
Edit: a fuzz pedal uses transistor stacks to create hard clipping like modern distortion pedals and unlike early ones like Randys MXR D+. Still the principle is the same, make the sinus wave square at the top (clip off the top, clipping, get it?) makes a distorted guitar sound.
I find it fantastic that a self-described classical composer is open to listening to and enjoying all kinds of other forms of music.
The 1980 album British Steel and “Breaking The Law” were my introduction to Judas Priest at the age of 15, so it was a while before I made my way into the back catalogue, but Victim of Changes will always be my favourite Priest song. Yes, Painkiller is regarded by many as the definitive JP song, and many heavy metal magazines seem to regard “Living After Midnight” as JPs best song, but for me nothing comes close to the majesty of Victim of Changes.
A few minutes of your life will be well spent watching any live rendition of “Breaking The Law”. It is so beloved by the fans that Rob Halford doesn’t even sing it: the audience sings the entire song! 😁
A Touch of Evil would make for a great review, Doug. I love this channel!
Thank you Mr. Helvering for your reflections.
Best live version of Victim of Changes is on a live lp titled "Unleashed in the East"
I consider this song The Quintessential metal song of all time. It has everything.
You must do the live version as well, yes. Rob doesn't attempt to do the high scream, he *does* it. "Do or do not, there is no try."
I've gone down the TH-cam rabbit hole with and watched lots of reaction videos for this song. It's an all-time classic that has multiple spots in the song where the reactor stops and says "did I really just hear that?" I'm glad that you finally got around to this one.
As for live versions - I'm in the camp for the 83 US Festival version. Even if it's not for a reaction video, it's worth checking out (that whole performance is worth checking out). Rob Halford shows not only that he can do all of those vocals live, but also how (seemingly) effortless it is for him to do them.
Next One: BLOOD RED SKIES
(from their 1988 album "Ram it down", the best Halford studio vocal performance, in my opinion)
Underrated album, as is Defenders of the Faith
Blood red skies should have been the soundtrack for terminator. You'll never remove this convintion from my brain
@@12gark And Turbo Lover and Love Bites for Titanic speaking of Cameron movies :) Saw em live Monday. They played both!!! Turbo Lover is more common but Love Bites!!! Man it sounded good live. No Sentinel!!!
This song was my gateway into metal music 🤘and this entire album is a masterpiece 🤘 so underrated 🤘
Hell yeah, one of their greatest songs
My favourite version is on "Unleashed in the East", though my favourite video is from the 1983 US Festival. In every version Rob really gets across the anguish of watching someone you love(d) destroying themself. Alcoholism has been a problem in my family for generations, which I think adds to the personal impact.
Same, 83
Absolutely the live versions are the best.
Unleashed In The East is one of my favorite live albums. As for the US Festival, I was there, what a performance.
Too bad Doug doesn’t play the live versions
Absolutely the live versions are the best.
Unleashed In The East is one of my favorite live albums. As for the US Festival, I was there, what a performance.
Too bad Doug doesn’t play the live versions
Well I saw them about 10 years ago... He hit those notes no problem. A good night? I don't know he wailed like it was nothing, really incredible.
Will never forget that concert back at Cucamonga, worked over 13 hours, rode on a pitch black highway, and they played in a tiny venue yet still pulled out the Harley. Killer band, KK was no longer there but the rest were absolutely on point.
The Unleashed in the East version live is incredible. I listen to that one exclusively almost.
I'm glad you went with the studio version first 👍👍. Their best of album was my first exposure to JP.
Great video! In answer to your musings of Rob Halford being able still hit the high notes .... YES he can!!!!
I have seen Judas Priest three times in the last decade or so and he still gets way up there and has the power too! Amazing shows!
70s Priest was great stuff, specifically the Sad Wings, Sin after Sin, and Stained Class albums. The riffs themselves aren't mindblowing, but the thick textures from the dual guitars, the winding song structures, and Rob's raw operatic vocals keep you engaged.
But it gets better again, with Screaming for Vengeance. They just needed to not starve so hence British Steel and Point of Entry. Though I like Point of Entry. But the later albums feature heavily in the live sets, like Defenders of the Faith with songs like Sentinel.
You have to watch the live version at the Seminole Hard Rock Arena. It will blow you away. This is with Rob much older. This will answer your question if he can still do it.
THE SENTINEL from "Fuel For Life" tour has a great solo duel
Alan Moore on drums? I have the 1976 vinyl edition and it lists studio/session drummer Simon Phillips. There was a reason for the self-combusting drummer in "Spinal Tap!" I would have loved to see Priest in the early 1980's and almost had my chance in 1988, except the guy who bought the tickets didn't know me. I finally got my chance in the 1990's and saw them for the first time with Tim "Ripper" Owens on vox. He nailed this song, my favorite Priest song of all time! I did eventually get to see Priest live with Rob. Doug, you wouldn't want to see Rob do this song later in his career because his voice cracks, especially if you're on the latter lag of the tour, but he's still Rob Halford, "The Metal God," and puts on a great show! You should do this entire album -- there's not a bad track on it!
Actually, Simon Phillips is on the next album, Sin After Sin.
And the live version that you are looking for is the Live at the US Festival Performance from 1983 or 84. It is available on TH-cam and it easily the best live performance of the song I have ever seen. Rob and the rest of the guys are a little bit older and have a different drummer in the band but their this live performance absolutely sails and it fits all the criteria you are looking for. Unless you are looking for performances of them doing the track in recent years. Rob can still pull off a lot of his original range at 73 years old, which is insane.
one of my all time favorite albums
I saw Judas priest in Charlotte NC 2022, they performed this song and at age 70, Rob sounded awesome and the song was no different.
Great, epic tune, a hard story, brought to glorious life by Priest getting their career in gear. We saw them the next tour and a half dozen times after that, they always played this song live and never let us down. You should do Beyond the Realms of Death, another all-time epic from them. They have tons of songs to get your metal on. Enjoy! 🎵🎸🎤🎸🎶
It's been a long time since I heard the original studio version ( Live version is on my playlists). I forgot that the tempo was slower and the riff is a little funky. I gotta add this to my rotation. Thanks for putting this on a Metal Monday Doug!
I listened to this album for the first time because Mikael Akerfeldt of Opeth mentioned it in an interview or something, and I fell in love. Great album.
Thank you. My favorite Priest tune from my favorite album.
KK did the first main solo and Glen did the outro solo.
He did it and STILL does it 73 years Old.
no he cant bro
@@tonygallo2361Sad but true
He actually comes impressively close !!
There's a video of Rob Halford recently where he has been adding Death Growls to certain songs. In the video clip he's singing part of Painkiller and adds a bit of the Down with the Sickness-like "Ooh-ooh" growl then shakes his shoulders as if to say "That's right, mutha-fuqua!" 🤘💀
@@m.vondrake5534 got a link?
if you want to listen to Rob Halford's range live but in 2000's since that studio recording was made try Halford - Life in Black from his solo band Halford's album Live Insurrection the note he hits at the end of this song made my skin crawl cause I've been a fan since 1982 and now his almost 80 and still got that delivery range his upcoming album with Judas Priest released a teaser called Trial By Fire in 2024 and he still doing it after all this years
Thanks a lot Doug for this video. As you can hear, listening Priest is a great journey. On Sad Wings, there is Epitaph, beautiful song, no heavy metal at all, where Rob is fantastic. Beyond the Realms of Death, A Touch of Evil, The Rage, and so many more great songs. A great journey!
I've seen JP a few times over the last decade and Rob still hits those high notes.
People swooning over the’83 US Festival?!? Have you ever heard of 1979’s Unleashed In The East? That’s the pinnacle of performances of every track on it, including this one. Just saying as it was my introduction to Priest and had me seeking out all their previous albums up to and after that. Screaming for Vengeance was my first concert in 1983!🤘🤘🖖👌✌️🎸🎸🥁🎤
As a huge metalhead ive been loving your breakdown. Id like to see you cover one of Vektors songs, like tetrastructural minds, oblivion, or if you want a long song, accelerating universe or recharging the void.
"Good gawd, love me"....filthy riff. Beautifully done. That's our JP. Rob hits that note that I love and splits atoms. Absolute perfection.
Hi Doug! You need to watch the live performance of this at the US festival ..Its stellar!!
There is a great live of this song from 2010 in Seminole arena. Best quality, and the solo improvisation from KK is just heaven music. Actually Another thing coming you reacted to was from that very concert.
I was at that show. It was fantastic.
I love that whole show video
So good.
Unleashed In The East. Wicked live album you need to hear.
A lot of great live versions of this. I have always loved the 83 US festival version.
Good choice on the studio cut of this, to really hear Halfords voice clean. He didn’t use any filters or effects, other than echos and fades, but no enhancers.
This has always been my fave JP album. You are dead on when you say there are elements of prog metal!! Very Sabbath like as well. They used to be incredible live back in the late 70s and early 80s. This song and the Ripper are my fave songs from this album. So glad to see you reviewing some of these classic metal albums from the early days of metal. BTW, LOVE the TOOL shirt!! One of my all time fave bands!!!! Cheers!
If you ever decide on a live take on Victim of changes, may i recommend live in Dortmund Germany. It's my favorite version and i believe Rob was just starting to peak in his performance. The recording is actually pretty good for 1983.
Run of the Mill Doug! Thanks for the great video sir!
I remember as if it was yesterday putting the needle on Sad Wings Vinyl in 1977 as a young 13 year old rocker. Still one of my favorite tracks of all time nearly 50 years later
Just seen a recent interview with Rib Halford in the Guardian, this is his favourite Pruest song also
The live version from their show at the Seminole Hard Rock Cafe is pretty damn good. Worth a watch.
Awesome song and the studio IS the best version, no matter how much louder live. Halford is on another level as is the entire band. Face melting! Eraly, classic prog metal for me.
Hi Doug. Nice choice, I grew up listening to early Priest and learned to play many of their songs when I was a teenager. I now have the utter privilege of playing this song in Les Binks Priesthood!
That's too cool!
Les Binks was always my favorite Judas Priest drummer. Stained Class! Hell Bent for Leather!
Please do the live version, it's unbelievable to the ear
Great review of one of my favorite songs.
A great Judas Priest song, that I would have done as your second song with them. The best version of this song is Live 1983 at the US Festival as well as the Live Vengeance '82 version or the Unleashed in the East version.
I stick with the Unleashed in the East version ;-)
The first long solo of the song is played by KK Downing and the second one is played by Glenn Tipton.
Do the live version from 1982… it is unREAL! Not only does he hit those notes, he hits them better, and with more venom.
What a beautiful wall of vinyl record covers behind you... that says a lot about you.
Thank you for your continued good and tireless work in providing us with details about their songs and bands with the bonus of you hearing them for the first time.
This song is familiar to me from the first live recorded version I heard, which is excellent.
Hug.
Interesting how you talked about how this was originally two songs, then fused into one. That makes a lot of sense. Usually it works the other way. One song will spawn multiple songs.
Saw Priest perform this track many times over the years. Awesome tune!
Great video Doug. Thanks
1982-83, Live version. I saw him do this live and he was in his best voice then.
Just saw Judas priest in march and rob can still hit those notes
My first and favorite album from Priest! So much range and instrumentation plus lyrical content.
If you want to hear Halford's range, I would suggest -
Beyond the Realms of Death
Blood Red Skies
Riding on the Wind
Jawbreaker
Freewheel Burning
Ram it Down
Hell Patrol
and Love Bites & Some Heads are Gonna Roll (both from the live album Priest Live)
Unleashed In The East -
Now that's where it's at!
Great song, a classic form Judas Priest. For a future reaction, I'd like to hear your thoughts on a song called "Beyond the Realms of Death" from the album "Stained Class". Really nice song, musically and lyrically to listen.
One of the best intros ever ❤️
Oh, he absolutely can get that high now, just check out one of Judas Priest's new songs, and he's in his 70's, and still singing like a Master!
Finally! Ive waited a long time for you to do this.
100% could do it on the latest tour! though my favorite version is from may 2019 and he still has it live
Doug there is a couple
Live versions out there and they are completely on point. You’d be impressed.
He still does it. I've seen him live, i mean real live with my eyes, not recorded live. I don't know if there is some wizardry going on but he does it. It's insane. And this is not the only song he does such stuff
I've seen them a few years ago and no, he cant do it. He just cant. its weird to see comments like that when Rob actually lost so much of his highs
@@FlagerMiszcz th-cam.com/video/KB9Da6fIVt8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=3sZIkM6zwdNJNqrg&t=3227
This was 1 year ago. Not so good as the original, but he is still up there, and this is the hardest song. In other songs he sounds much better, such as touch of evil or Hell Patrol.
Great episode DH!
I love early JP
I will donate for you to check out early Scorpions with Uli Roth on guitar
If you haven’t already, it will be a real treat to explore a few tunes
KK is 1st solo, Glenn is 2nd.
When you know a little about them it's pretty clear yeah. Never really paid attention on the song in particular, but I could have tell
@@tondaron2362 KK is the most "over the place" with a powerful influence from Hendrix, while Tipton is more harmonious and technical. The difference in their solos is JP's magic.
@@silentgnome yes, and if they'd been too closely in style what would've been the point with two soloists?
@@michaelkarlsson5966 As I said, both are very different. KK likes to play a very crazy & super fast solo, full of a lot of looseness (very influenced by Hendrix), while Glenn is much more measured, technical, and harmonious. When you listen to a Judas Priest song, you can detect who each solo belongs to.
I love their earlier stuff, more adventurous than they would be later. The multiple riffs and sections were clearly an influence on early Metallica.
Classical Judas Priest masterpiece ❤️🤘🔥
Many parts of this song are Black Sabbath influenced without a doubt, and done as good or better - but if you were lucky enough to hear this song when it came out, you are old enough to probably have been high enough to truly appreciate it for all that it encompasses - awesome react as always Doug!
Live at the Seminole Hard Rock Arena 2010 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Now do "Beyond the realms of death" It is their epic masterpiece!
I’m going to see Judas Priest,Saxon,Uriah Heap on the 15/3/24 I’ve never saw JP live before so I’m looking forward to this concert Saxon is also a classic band from the 80,s along with UH😊
The live version takes this to the next level. Stone cold classic.
First solo was K.K. Downing. If it's crazy and messy, it's him. The second solo was Glen Tipton. Every solo he does is highly organized and played carefully.
If you watch Tipton play the solos live I've never seen a guy shred that had so smoothly with so little hand movements
Rob is still doing the song at 72. Flawlessly!
I can't believe I missed this upload. I just searched it and here if was.
Maybe my favorite Judas Priest song, definitely my favorite album!
Oh geez, what a great tune. I'd suggest you'd do their live version of "Dreamer Deceiver/Deceiver". You can look it up as "Judas Priest - Dreamer Deceiver / Deceiver (BBC Performance)" one of my favorite songs by Priest before their Painkiller crazy era. All the best to you! \m/
Edit: got the wrong title of the video :p
Doug! The live version of this, on " Unleashed in the East"! You should give hat a listen!