Classical Composer Reacts to LED ZEPPELIN: IMMIGRANT SONG | The Daily Doug (Episode 728)
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In this edition of #thedailydoug, I'm listening to Immigrant Song by Led Zeppelin. I didn't realize what song it actually is until I started listening to it. It's an iconic song from rock and roll history, and we're hearing both the studio version and a live version from 1972. Enjoy!
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It's great when the brain makes the connection and you see someone realize that they remember something after all.
The bass in this song is badass. Period. JPJ, baby!
Those ascending runs tho
10/10 he's just doing a bass solo over the riff the whole time it's so sick
Not a Tarzan scream,it's Plant's interpretation of what a Viking war cry would,perhaps, sound like.
It's actually Plant's homage to the theme tune of one of his favourite 1960s tv programmes called Get Smart. He's said so.
@@lyndoncmp5751 Really! I do hear the similarities in opening credits! I stand corrected,sir! I don't remember Plant mentioning that.Do you know in what interview he stated that? As Maxwell Smart catch phrase said'' Sorry chief,It'll never happen again'',LOL!....Sitll,I imagine it's what a Viking war cry would sound like!
No. It’s stolen from the Rogers & Hammerstein “South Pacific” song Bali Ha'i.
@@mirandak3273 What? I just googled that song and didn't see any similarity at all
Yes!
The first album by a band that I bought with my own money, 1971, Led Zeppelin III. I drop the needle on my parents HiFi, and this comes out of the speakers. Dad wasn't home, good, mom, well she was a little startled but she started to move a little. She was a little more "adventurous" than my dad with her musical tastes. And so it all began. That live footage is from Sydney, Australia.
yes..me too
I was just in front of you. My first album was Led Zep II 🙂
It's used twice in Thor: Ragnarok, and also in Shrek the Third.
and School of Rock
When I saw Thor: Ragnorak in the theater, the whole audience stood up and cheered when it come on the second time, as Thor launched himself into the air on the way to kicking some serious ass.
А разве в шреке не Барракуда.??? Почему то я путаю эти 2е песни🤦
It was prominent in one of the "Thor" flicks. I think it was the Ragnarok film where this song rings through the battle scene
That bridge scene is my favorite Marvel scene mostly because of this song.
Start and end (ish) of the movie
Correctamundo. Thor leaps onto the Rainbow Bridge scattering bad guys with lightning as he lands, at the other end Valkyrie with a confident smile on her face sashays towards the bad guys with her sword at the ready.
it's all over media to be honest. Commercials, movies, comedy... it was even in a Shrek scene (don't remember which one).
I can’t wait until you get to “Achilles Last Stand” on their album “Presence”. We are talking full on orchestration of guitar parts on that one, similar to “ten years gone “, but at an epic scale. Pay attention to the drum parts on that one, because they will fly right by you if you’re not paying attention.
Impossible
Think of what the phrase “Valhalla I am coming” means!
The warrior intends to die while fighting!!
I think it might have been a recognition of possible death, and a declaration that he is ready for that transition to Valhalla if that death should happen.
@@OriginalLictre Terrifying to hear if you're on the opposing side!
Sometimes a burst of inspiration and a guitar riff is all that is needed for a song. Nothing complicated just rock and roll
I saw them in ‘71 at the Forum in LA. Fliipping incredible! A concert that was burnt into my memory.
A reaction to the entire album.... Yes, please.
Yes please.
Start st Zeppelin I and keep going!
I’d love to as his reaction to friends and the whole album would be great too
The Bass Line Is Stunning, Especially The Fills Leading Up To The Rest. Page Always Added A Solo When Playing This Live.
Yep, one rarely hears Immigrant Song as one of JPJ's masterlines but it is right there with Achilles Last Stand.
It was used in School of Rock after Jack Black and the cast recited a plea to the band on video (an extra on the DVD). As far as I know, the first time Zeppelin had been used in a film.
Actually, if memory serves, Kashmir was used in Fastimes at Ridgemont High with Sean Penn. But yeah other than those 2 I can't think of any other Zep songs in movies.
Don't forget Shrek 3 th-cam.com/video/MNu_kqxqbew/w-d-xo.html@@jonrhythm3686
I guess their own concert (plus fantasy) film (The Song Remains the Same) doesn't count....
Let's not forget this was used in one of the Shrek movies. Shrek 2 I think.
"Immigrant Song" used in a movie for the first time in the 1998 Sci Fi/ Action film "Soldier" starring Kurt Russell. Earlier that same year "Communication Breakdown" was used in the comedy/action film "Small Soldiers" Led Zeppelin is said to be very picky about which movies, right down to the scene it's to be used in, they will give their blessing to for their music to be used in.
III is my favorite Zep album
III encapsulates everything Zeppelin did on one disc. If I could only have one LZ album, III would be it.
Mine too
Same
If memory serves correct, on “Led Zeppelin lll”, the “Immigrant Song” bleeds into the song, “Friends” which bleeds into the song, “Celebration Day” for a nice little 3 song medley that begins the album.
Yeah, the only thing wrong with “Immigrant Song” is its length. It would’ve been great for a 4:00 minute studio version!
One of the best Led Zeppelin songs.
We were at Watkins Glen, for the 28th July Summer Jam, with the Grateful Dead, The Band and The Allman Brothers Band, in 1973. Kids ran past us Sunday morning, as the remnants of 600,000 happy heads slogged out of the mud, and i shouted
"Why are you running?" 😂😂❤ and one replied over his shoulder "We've got ZEP tickets!"🎉
And that was their second show at Madison Square Garden, on Sunday, after their receipts from Saturday were stolen from the hotel safe ... all of which forms their film:
"The Song Remains The Same"
☮️☮️❤☮️☮️
I think Zeppelin 3 is such an overlooked album.
As is Presence
@@Capricornsrule I couldn’t agree more, all you gotta do is listen to Achilles Last Stand.
It baffled reviewers at the time, because some of it represented a turn away from the "pure hard rock/blues rock" mould of the first two albums, just as everybody was picking up on heavy metal and blues rock, but it was an essential expansion of their sound.
@@louise_rose absolutely. It was the evolution of the band and its sound. Now it was a complete album where every song was amazing like the previous albums, but 90% of a great zeppelin album is better than any of the one hit wonders. The stones never had as many complete awesome albums as zeppelin
@@Capricornsrule I agree the Stones albums (or many Dylan albums!) feel much spottier than Zeppelin's. Page, in particular, seems to have been determined not to do any real filler tracks on the Zep albums, and it paid off.
Hi Doug! If you want to hear the sequel of this, jump to Achilles Last Stand on the Presence album!
Their best overall song
I think that "No Quarter" is related too...
You want a solo? Jimmy is only too happy to melt your face.
I had never been the biggest Zepp fan, but a band I was in covered the live version of Immigrant Song, and the bass line was a lot of fun to play. That made me appreciate them enough to climb aboard the Zepp train.
In the movie "The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo" there is a good cover of "The Immigrant Song" by The Yeh, Yeh, Yehs (or their lead singer). It was used at the very beginning of the movie.
Oh yeah, I totally forgot. That was a really good cover. I think the cover worked better for the way that film went. I’ll always like the original way better, but using that one for the film just seemed appropriate.
Karen O and Trent Reznor I think 🖤
The film clip is from the Sydney Showground where the annual Royal Agricultural Show ( I’m guessing like a U.S. State Fair)is held each year at Easter in Sydney Australia. The clip was filmed for GTK (Get to Know) for the Australian Broadcast Commission, Australia’s version of the UK’s BBC. GTK was a youth program that covered News and culture for Australian youths. Occasionally they would have live in studio and out door performances.
Apparently, the video clip was from Sydney, but the audio was taken from Auckland, which is why it doesn't sync up.
@@shanebielski5424 Thank you. I didn’t know that.
@@shanebielski5424 marks correct,the clip was from the Sydney showgrounds in February 72 but the Sydney audio track had problems so they mashed up audio from their long beach california arena show that was held in the US summer of the same year this is mention in the second booklet of the Led Zeppelin double DVD set
Since I’ve Been Loving You, live at Madison Square Garden (1973) is absolutely amazing, from this album. Yes there are several acoustic songs on it, & it’s a great album.
Yes explore Led Zeppelin III. Since I've Been Loving You has one of the most beautiful blues solos ever. And that should lead you to Tea For One on Presence with a solo you wish would go on forever. I can promise you will love these.
Mmmmm! This was my first introduction to Led Zep way back in 1976 on a ship sailing to South Africa from the UK. I was 18 and my crew mates were older and wiser. I listened. And never looked back!!
Hi Doug. You mentioned that 'Led Zeppelin III" might be a candidate for a full-album reaction, and I 100% agree.
This album was a departure from the band's first 2 albums, and I liken it to Bob Dylan's 'Bringing It All Back Home' in terms of signalling a new direction.
But, whereas Dylan expanded his repertoire from acoustic to electric, Zeppelin went the other way.
They also made enormous strides in terms of the various instruments played and the use of alternate guitar tuning.
'Led Zeppelin III' is certainly viewed as their acoustic album, and this is half true. Only 1 of the 5 songs on side 1 is acoustic, but all 5 songs on side 2 can be considered acoustic. Again, this is roughly equivalent to how Dylan sequenced the material on 'Bringing It All Back Home' (which always made me wonder why the folk purists where so alarmed when he played a portion of his set on electric guitar at the 1965 Newport Folk Festival ... he had already shown where his music was heading).
Hi Doug , the only time I see Zep they opened with Immigrant Song and its stayed with me to this day , brilliant set at Bath Shepton Mallet UK. It was a privilege to see them . Night before we had Pink Floyd .
You were at Bath?!? That was one of the all-time greatest Zep gigs. Not to mention Floyd. I'm so jealous!
Doug, I was unaware that Peter Schickele aka. PDQ Bach passed away last month. You might consider a memorial for a great musical satirist.
Doug mentioned it in a previous episode.
Because it is so short and so incredible you never get enough and you want to hear it again and again.
It's a fantastic album - mostly acoustic but with several rockers. And several classics - especially Since I've been Loving You (and this one of course).
This and Fool In The Rain shift regularly as my favorite.
Do you mean "The Rain Song?" and just watched Dr.Becky's astrophysics channel and heard about the Red Shift???
@@harounel-poussah6936 yeah, I should’ve said this and Fool in The Rain switch often as my favorite.
We saw 'em live in Bremen, Germany, in 1980. Half a year before Bonzo passed away. I had gotten my driving liscense just a year before. Driving down in mom's car with my younger brother and 2 classmates of him. We even had a camera with us. (Yes! That was still allowed.) Kodak Ektachrome 400, pushed to 1600ASA in the development. Two or three of them pics are now hanging in a guitar shop in Perth, Australia.
Your always amazing Mr. Helvering, thank you so much for so much content and joy!
Shortest song they do. I've always wanted it to be longer.
They played a clip of this in the TV show _"Rock Follies"_ in the '70s. This guy was trying to show how to focus in to tap your inner energy and power, and one of the girls was listening on headphones.
Some time after 9/11, a guy got arrested because people complained that he was listening to this on headphones and thought he was going to do something dodgy on the plane!
{:o:O:}
Yeah, we know Muslims are into Led Zeppelin.
LOVE this song.
But it's not "pop" rock. Zeppelin did do some pop rock, but that's more like songs such as _The Rover, Houses of the Holy, Fool in the Rain_ and _The Song Remains the Same._
_"Immigrant Song"_ belongs in the "mystical/progressive" group, along with _Achilles' Last Stand, Kashmir, In the Light_ and so on.
You can actually make 5 CDs of Led Zeppelin music, Acoustic, Blues, Mystical/Progressive, Poppy and Rock.
{:o:O:}
One of the best.
Very best.
Bonhams beat is tribal.
Great video ✌🏻
This is one of my strongest memory of my childhood. I was 12 when I heard this on the radio. I remember thinking only not humans could play such a thing. This was like coming from nowhere, outerspace but not from something I could handle. I then fell in love with rock music !
Their live version of this is amazing!
My old man was at that Sydney show in '72! He was 15 and got in for free (my grandfather was an usher and snuck him in) 😂
A good friend of mine also went he had just turned 18 and they drove from Goulburn think he mentioned 25,000 people at the show not bad all things considered,
@@mjk45 That's awesome! What a memorable road trip that would've been.
Music like this is not made anymore 😢
What a band, such talents, what an awseome recording. Just hear the drama created on how its produced, the dynamics from full on to more smoth and softer parts.
And then the variations created live… thx Doug🙏
Woah that last Daily Doug song bit at the end was amazing! Loved it!
If you're going to start doing stuff off Zep 3 then you have to do Since I've Been Loving You. One of Jimmy's greatest guitar solos
This song was great in Thor Ragnarok
There's a track on Led Zeppelin III called 'Friends' that has a quality I've never been able to explain and I would love to hear your take.
This is THAT song? Classic. Listen to Since I've been Loving You off Led Zeppelin III.
I am SO glad you checked out the live version!
I love the way you talk over the guitar solo. Such a pleasure
I was at the Bath blues and progressive rock festival at Shepton Mallet. In 1979, I was 20 years old. It was the best festival I have ever been to and I have been to a lot of festivals. ❤
That should say 1970
I was at the Bath festival & saw Led Zeppelin perform, among many other great bands.
My introduction to and favorite version of this is from the BBC sessions. Same with Since I’ve Been Loving You
The live footage is from the Sydney Show Ground in Australia, 1972 ... my Father was at the show ... the audio is however taken off the desk from another show in Melbourne I believe, They spliced the two together.
Another excellent video. Thank you Doug.
Tritones and lions and bears, oh my! After all these years, still my favorite Zep song.
Yes! Please do a full album reaction! Plus the packaging of the vinyl is super cool
My first Zep aibum. Still one of my favourites.
Led Zeppelin is like Beethoven. Anything you check out ends up being awesome.
One of the great rock riffs!
Love it when Doug pulls out the air drums.
I love this song. I got shivers when it showed up as a soundtrack in Thor: Ragnarok.
Oh please, yes! Led III is my favorite album of any and all albums. That’s high praise given the plethora of fantastic music that gifted our generation.
3 is honestly my favorite Zep album.. although it's hard to pick only 1 lol. Their 1st 5 records are back to back gold 🥰
I mostly agree. Love the first 4 albums, but I always struggle with 'Houses of the Holy'. I love the songs, but I am not a fan of Plant's vocals on this album. I find that he too often sings in almost a falsetto at times. I wish they would bring it down to a lower key.
In my top 1000 Led Zeppelin is no 1
Thank you for your everything you do
Yes...there are acoustic songs from the album that paint a very 'dramatic mindscape'.....this is a beautiful sounding album...very diverse. ❤
One of my favorite Led songs. Resonates with my Danish heritage!
That live version was filmed in Sydney.
The audio is from either LA or Long Beach, late June of '72, but the video is February '72 in Sydney.
For me 3 is their best album. They really leaned into their folk and blues roots. Gallows Pole, Tangerine and Since I've Been Loving You are some of their best studio tracks.
one of my all-time favorite albums
The live is a little longer, it’s been in several movies, like School of Rock. I believe a few commercials too, it is a song many realize they’ve heard it before. In case you didn’t know, Valhalla is where Vikings go when they die, especially if they died as a warrior in battle. They believed there were different halls in Valhalla. The thing I find odd, one other time listening to you, you kept saying oh shut up Robert. Sorry but that is Plants instrument, & he’s very talented at using it, & his voice is one of the most amazing ever. This band is the most talented group of 4 men, the writing the music, is all pure genius.
"How did they let the song fizzle out like that?" Valhalla I am cominggg!
Thanks for this reaction and greetings from Iceland🙂 Yesterday I attended one of the greatest concerts I've ever been to in Reykjavik. The Icelandic band "The Vintage Caravan" was doing a Led Zeppelin tribute with some Icelandic singers and of course this was the first song. What a show this was and it is hard for me to believe tere's a better Zeppelin cover band in the world even though it's not their purpose. The have their own carrier going. I strongly recommend listening to these great young guys!!
My favourite part that Doug missed is the turning all the amps on at the beginning of the song to kick of the album. @5:49
*tick tick tick tick*
Check out Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck doing it from The Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame. Beck does the Plant screams on guitar. Rockin!
Having first heard this song not long after Led Zepplin 3 was released I am always surprised when people say they have never heard of this song before, but when I play it for them they say "Oh, that song".
However being the die hard fan that I am, I always listen to the entire album whenever I listen to Led Zepplin, so I get an overwhelming impulse to listen to the rest of this album whenever I hear this song being played in a stand alone situation like this. In fact my brain is so accustomed to listening to the entire album that the next song "Friends" starts playing in my head as soon as this song finishes.
One of the first albums I bought. Thanks for your take on the 2 versions.
One of my favorite songs. Love it.
Timeless classic !
That was fun, Doug. Thanks! And yes, by all means you should do an EPL with LedZep III. Lots of tasty tidbits in store for you there, and many of them are at least partly acoustic.
I often wonder on these reviews, when you pick apart he song structure etc how much the band know what they are doing and how much just sounds good to them. Steve Harris from Maiden always says he knows no music theory, it's all done by ear. I suspect in this case, both Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones know exactly what they are doing. Great review again.
Coming to you from your future, Fat Tuesday. I haven't watched in a couple weeks so it's nice to get back into your content with this phenomenal song. Thanks for being you! From your neighbor to the south.
The opening vocal line is a direct lift from Billy Boy Arnold’s harmonica line on his song I Wish You Would first recorded in the 50s.
Back in those days, a track restricted to 2.5 mins was because it was intended to get radio plays on popular radio shows, because Singles hoping for Chart success were restricted to that time historically by radio stations. Radio shows aiming for a different non-Chart orientated audience (usually on FM) were quite prepared to play tracks of 5, 10 minutes or longer.
All that may well be true, but Zeppelin didn't release singles so it doesn't apply here.
@@MichaelRooke-pe6oy They may well have decided not to try, but what other explanation do you have for it being that particular length. How many of their other recordings were that short ?
Great reaction as usual. Thanks!
Sales of The Immigrant Song jumped by nearly 1000% after it was used in Thor: Ragnarok. It took nearly two years to secure the rights to use the song in the movie, but it paid off for all involved ... plus made the movie even better. It introduced a new generation to Led Zeppelin. Many went on to find more Zeppelin songs and because of that Led Zeppelin sales in general increased after Thor: Ragnarok.
“It’s this song…” that was hilarious. Great video.
I was somewhat surprised at first you didn't know that song, lol. So cool to see it was just that you didn't know it by name but immediately recognized it.
0:27 "It took me AWHILE to get to Led Zeppelin on the channel..." Word! People out there in TH-cam land, I am one of the people on the august COUNCIL OF DOUGS who spent nearly a YEAR getting the good Dr. to pay more attention to this band, thank you very much! Dr. Doug complained about Robert Plant's voice - but he usually praised the band's rhythm track in particular, as well he should! Give Bonzo much love! And don't forget John Paul Jones, 'cause that would be a sin... The other three get the lion's share of the glory, but JPJ's bass, organ, and arranging skills are par excellence!
You said you haven't done any other songs from this third album. Well... SINCE I'VE BEEN LOVING YOU is the best song by the band for many many many LZ fans. It's one of the very blues songs ever recorded. (Okay, maybe Howlin' Wolf's SMOKESTACK LIGHTNING is number one.)
I call their "folk" music "Heavy Mellow". Aprtl 13 1970 in Montreal, I saw Zeppelin. It was months before the 3rd album was released and they opened the show with this song.
I love Out on the Tiles from this album. It’s my happy song.
I recognize the background city scenes as being (70's-era) Melbourne, Australia (including pre-renovation-over-the-last-50-years version of: Arts Centre Melbourne).
This was very helpful even as a musician to hear his commentary and input to help me think musically and learn from it.
They left you wanting more, Doug! Lol
The best thing about the third album is it showed Zeppelin going in a new direction away from the first two. I’ve always felt like they covered familiar ground at first and just did a variation on the British rock of the sixties that Hendrix, Cream and others started.
IV was the first album they made that sounded like no one else. III was a transitional album.
Love zeppelin love this track it's always good to hear the difference between studio and live , for me live is always best as each performance is different
Immigrant song was used in the Marvel Film Thor: Ragnarok when Thor battles his evil sister Hela for control of Aagard. A perfect soundtrack for that scene.
Interesting side note that I picked up somewhere is that the solo Page plays live in Immigrant Song was actually reused as the live solo in Over the Hills and Far Away when they played it (extended a bit of course) and if I remember correctly it was still played in F# even though Over the Hills is not in that key. I could be wrong but that is my recollection. It does sound very similar, especially the lower register parts.
It was home movies! I believe they crowd-sourced video from people attending the show and pieced it together to make the video. 😂
LZ III is my favourite album. So many different types of music