I noticed my young goats went to hay super fast. They hit up their moms but I could have easily separated them and it would have been fine. I didnt but Im leaning to your logic. I notice they are biting their mom causing bleeding.
Help... first refreshing.. our doe had triplets and they are sucking all her weight off.. if I wean her babies, what do I need feed them? How can I get her weight back?
I just love your videos, they have helped me so much. I do have a question regarding bottle feeding, how long should you bottle feed the babies? I picked up a momma and her little buck. He's pretty big now, 2-3 months and he's still nursing. His momma has been exposed, not sure on her time line. I am new to goats and haven't gotten any solid dates from the breeder. Can you help?
Your channel has been so helpful! Thank you for taking the time to make these videos to help a newbie like me. :-) Have you ever dealt with a doe with a prolapse?
If your goat has a prolapse I'd say call a Vet ASAP as far as I know it's a very particular procedure, on getting bit back in and if left out for to Long can cause infection and kill your goat.
Blue Cactus Dairy Goats haha love that answer! I’m a wuss in the rain! I live in Alpine (outskirts of San Diego county) it doesn’t rain a lot but when it does, it POURS! Snowed a little last night
Hey C(K)rystal. Great discussion. I know you sell your babies, but if you keep them, when would you introduce them to the main adult herd? We have a small herd and will sell and keep some, but would be interested in your thoughts.
Hello! The ones we retain, we add to the big doe pen around 4 to 5 months old. We train them to the electric fence before introducing them to the big does too.
@@BlueCactusDairyGoats Perfect! Thanks! Thats kind of what we thought and that would work great. They are such little goats that one milking a day has seemed pretty limiting.
I know this video is over a year old and someone asked about how much and how often a 2 day old kid needs to be fed with a bottle. You replied that you were going to handle all that info in an upcoming video. I was wondering if you did the video and if you could let me know how to find it? If no video yet, can you let me know how many ounces of milk and how often a baby kid would need to start with and then an average amount and time’s going forward? Thank you 😊
Hi, my question is when you separate them, about how far away from the moms are they? Do you move them out of their line of sight or can the moms see them? Wondering if they should be out of sight for it to not be stressful on them.
If you pull at birth. The kids don't know any better and the does will scream for a day or so. If you wait until the kids are 2 or 3 months old to separate. The kids and does will scream for weeks. A visual barrier and ear plugs will help. - Derek
PS I currently have my FIRST set of goats! I got a Mama and her baby when baby was 1 day old.... she is about 10 weeks now and I haven’t separated because they would be lonely and she’s stillll nursing and I can barely get her to eat hay or the organic grain! I don’t know what to do at this point! Is it too late to start milking? I ordered some tape to tape mamas teats but it hasn’t come yet.... the reason it took so long for me to get prepared was because my friend had to suddenly give me the goats and I had NOTHING started from scratch and I just didn’t know what to buy or what to do.... please help!
I would separate them. I dont believe the tape works well but hopefully it will for you. Trouble with allowing them to nurse for so long is, it can be close to impossible for them to break that habit. She may try nursing after mama kids again and take the milk from the babies. It wont hurt them to be separated for a while. If you an on milking her and keeping her in milk, then I hope the tape works! She may not have much milk left at this point. If you dry her up, then separate until shes dry.
I do not have goats yet but planning for next year. I live in 5 acres and only plan on ever having one goat bred at a time. if She only has one kid and I start pulling her off and bottle feeding her but she’s not separated from the mom will I still be able to wean her? OR i assume if She has two kids I need to completely separate them in a different pen? I hope this makes sense. Also If I plan to keep any kids and once they are weaned they can all be together again, right? Thanks, and I love your channel.
It would be impossible to wean a kid if they are with their dam. Even if you do bottle feed. If you only have one baby and still milk your doe out every morning and night. I wouldn't separate a baby by itself though.
Thank you Crystal. The babies are 3 weeks now, i really want to separate them as i feel we are not getting as much milk. I have noticed both the girls only allowing the kids on at selective times. Im assuming they are slowly weaning. The kids have become interested in hay and a small amount of their mothers feed. Would it be best to start the separation at night, then let them with their mothers during the day? Really appreciate your advice. We have triplets and a single. Great info once again too, thank you so much!
In my experience cold turkey separation works best! I have done the over night separating as well. It does, however seem to prolong the inevitable:). If you do decide to do that, give the babies free range access to hay. They will begin eating much more of it. And yes, at three weeks dams begin to stop allowing kids to eat as much because she knows they need to start eating hay.
Ms. Crystal, My Dad's herd management for our herd was very similar. Usually by day three after delivery the calf was in a calf hut. There were a few exceptions over the years. Cows that, for reasons that I cannot remember at the moment, he would put calves on and let them milk the cow.
Quick question. Since you separate at 2 days old or so how long must you bottle feed the kids before they will eat "grown-up" food?? Also, how many times a day must you feed the kids ?? Thank you.
Great questions! I have a video in that will answer all those questions coming out in the near future ;).. Make sure your subscribed. I post every Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday in case you don't get the notifications.
Its not natural to seperate any baby animal from its mother. They share a bond like any other animal on this planet. How would humans like this practice ?
@Jillousa I do raise dairy goats. I keep the kids with their mothers and let them raise their kids naturally as any other mammal does. The kids grow faster and are happier sharing that special bond with their mother. If I want some goat milk , I just place the kid in an pen next to mom overnite and take milk from the doe in the morning . The kid is then put back in with its mom. I cant think of any animal on the planet, including humans that isnt with his mother when born and grows. Humans rip the babies from their mom at birth , so unnatural !
I have a hard time being ok with separating them so young. It's no different than the mass produced milk cows when their babies are taken from them right away. Animals feel emotion and attachment and you are causing such stress to those mama goats, to all really. All for the sake of you having the milk that is meant for her babies. SAD.
You are very uneducated in regards to livestock, especially goats. I think before you assume greed is the motivation here, you should do some research on WHY people separate and why a some customers would prefer or require a bottle fed kid over a dam raised.
Just noticed your sitting in a wheel barrel. That's funny. I can see how the Goats are much easier to manage when they enjoy your company. "Handled"
Thank you so much for this information.I wanted to know what is the best way.
Thanks for the info. I always wondered why
I really appreciate your time and effort on this channel. You just are straight to the point and your ideas work. love it
Great reasons for separation. I never understood before but easier for everyone All around... thank you
Thanks for sharing
So I see everybody has videos on battle feeding baby goats. But what other charity you need to provide for them if they are rejected
I noticed my young goats went to hay super fast. They hit up their moms but I could have easily separated them and it would have been fine. I didnt but Im leaning to your logic. I notice they are biting their mom causing bleeding.
Help... first refreshing.. our doe had triplets and they are sucking all her weight off.. if I wean her babies, what do I need feed them? How can I get her weight back?
how often and how much do you feed your bottle babies?
I just love your videos, they have helped me so much. I do have a question regarding bottle feeding, how long should you bottle feed the babies? I picked up a momma and her little buck. He's pretty big now, 2-3 months and he's still nursing. His momma has been exposed, not sure on her time line. I am new to goats and haven't gotten any solid dates from the breeder. Can you help?
What do you do with all the male goat babies.. they can't produce milk of course and can't all be studs?
Your channel has been so helpful! Thank you for taking the time to make these videos to help a newbie like me. :-) Have you ever dealt with a doe with a prolapse?
You Are very welcome! I have not dealt with a prolapse before luckily. Does one of yours have a prolapse?
If your goat has a prolapse I'd say call a Vet ASAP as far as I know it's a very particular procedure, on getting bit back in and if left out for to Long can cause infection and kill your goat.
Butterscotch!
Your videos have been such a blessing to me! I notice that your milk stand is out in the open, what do you do when it rains??
Lol. I milk! We dont get much rain though.
Blue Cactus Dairy Goats haha love that answer! I’m a wuss in the rain! I live in Alpine (outskirts of San Diego county) it doesn’t rain a lot but when it does, it POURS! Snowed a little last night
We got more snow last night too too!
Blue Cactus Dairy Goats fun!!! Do you homeschool your kids? We have a plan to move to Arizona if homeschooling ever becomes illegal here in Cali
Hey C(K)rystal. Great discussion. I know you sell your babies, but if you keep them, when would you introduce them to the main adult herd? We have a small herd and will sell and keep some, but would be interested in your thoughts.
Hello! The ones we retain, we add to the big doe pen around 4 to 5 months old. We train them to the electric fence before introducing them to the big does too.
@@BlueCactusDairyGoats Perfect! Thanks! Thats kind of what we thought and that would work great. They are such little goats that one milking a day has seemed pretty limiting.
@Marirose Thomas greetings!
Thnx for this video! I can tell my friend now because shes breeding goats!
DoxHighAnimations, my doeling needs a name! So, I'm asking the help of people on TH-cam. Oakley or Odessa? Thank you!
Oakley sound very cute in my opinion!
Thank you very much! I will let you know what her name ends up being.
No problemo!
I know this video is over a year old and someone asked about how much and how often a 2 day old kid needs to be fed with a bottle. You replied that you were going to handle all that info in an upcoming video. I was wondering if you did the video and if you could let me know how to find it? If no video yet, can you let me know how many ounces of milk and how often a baby kid would need to start with and then an average amount and time’s going forward? Thank you 😊
Hi, my question is when you separate them, about how far away from the moms are they? Do you move them out of their line of sight or can the moms see them? Wondering if they should be out of sight for it to not be stressful on them.
If you pull at birth. The kids don't know any better and the does will scream for a day or so. If you wait until the kids are 2 or 3 months old to separate. The kids and does will scream for weeks. A visual barrier and ear plugs will help. - Derek
@@BlueCactusDairyGoats ok thanks. So just to be clear, I should put them far away where the moms can’t see them?
PS I currently have my FIRST set of goats! I got a Mama and her baby when baby was 1 day old.... she is about 10 weeks now and I haven’t separated because they would be lonely and she’s stillll nursing and I can barely get her to eat hay or the organic grain! I don’t know what to do at this point! Is it too late to start milking? I ordered some tape to tape mamas teats but it hasn’t come yet.... the reason it took so long for me to get prepared was because my friend had to suddenly give me the goats and I had NOTHING started from scratch and I just didn’t know what to buy or what to do.... please help!
I would separate them. I dont believe the tape works well but hopefully it will for you. Trouble with allowing them to nurse for so long is, it can be close to impossible for them to break that habit. She may try nursing after mama kids again and take the milk from the babies. It wont hurt them to be separated for a while. If you an on milking her and keeping her in milk, then I hope the tape works! She may not have much milk left at this point. If you dry her up, then separate until shes dry.
Blue Cactus Dairy Goats thank you 😊
I do not have goats yet but planning for next year. I live in 5 acres and only plan on ever having one goat bred at a time. if She only has one kid and I start pulling her off and bottle feeding her but she’s not separated from the mom will I still be able to wean her? OR i assume if She has two kids I need to completely separate them in a different pen? I hope this makes sense. Also If I plan to keep any kids and once they are weaned they can all be together again, right?
Thanks, and I love your channel.
It would be impossible to wean a kid if they are with their dam. Even if you do bottle feed. If you only have one baby and still milk your doe out every morning and night. I wouldn't separate a baby by itself though.
He looks like a Dexter to me.
I like that name!
Thank you Crystal. The babies are 3 weeks now, i really want to separate them as i feel we are not getting as much milk. I have noticed both the girls only allowing the kids on at selective times. Im assuming they are slowly weaning. The kids have become interested in hay and a small amount of their mothers feed. Would it be best to start the separation at night, then let them with their mothers during the day? Really appreciate your advice. We have triplets and a single.
Great info once again too, thank you so much!
In my experience cold turkey separation works best! I have done the over night separating as well. It does, however seem to prolong the inevitable:). If you do decide to do that, give the babies free range access to hay. They will begin eating much more of it. And yes, at three weeks dams begin to stop allowing kids to eat as much because she knows they need to start eating hay.
Blue Cactus Dairy Goats thankyou. I will take your advice. I'll let you know how it goes.
Thank you so much for the quick response 😁
Please do! And good luck! Most important thing is to not give into the screaming once you decide to separate. You will create a monster if you do lol
Thank you very informative. I will try a couple different days to separate.
Animalsforever31, my 3 day old doeling needs a name! So, I'm asking random people on TH-cam. Oakley or Odessa?
Abster Stratton What color is she?
Ms. Crystal,
My Dad's herd management for our herd was very similar. Usually by day three after delivery the calf was in a calf hut.
There were a few exceptions over the years. Cows that, for reasons that I cannot remember at the moment, he would put calves on and let them milk the cow.
@Marirose Thomas
I'm all right.
How are you doing?
Quick question. Since you separate at 2 days old or so how long must you bottle feed the kids before they will eat "grown-up" food?? Also, how many times a day must you feed the kids ?? Thank you.
Great questions! I have a video in that will answer all those questions coming out in the near future ;).. Make sure your subscribed. I post every Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday in case you don't get the notifications.
@@BlueCactusDairyGoats have you done the video yet??
Its not natural to seperate any baby animal from its mother. They share a bond like any other animal on this planet. How would humans like this practice ?
Do you consume any dairy? If so, do you raise your own animals and how would you suggest to do it better?
@Jillousa I do raise dairy goats. I keep the kids with their mothers and let them raise their kids naturally as any other mammal does. The kids grow faster and are happier sharing that special bond with their mother. If I want some goat milk , I just place the kid in an pen next to mom overnite and take milk from the doe in the morning . The kid is then put back in with its mom. I cant think of any animal on the planet, including humans that isnt with his mother when born and grows. Humans rip the babies from their mom at birth , so unnatural !
So do you bring baby in house? I have done both. Left on mom and brought baby in the house
We only bring the ba ies in if needed. Cold weather, sick or small kid, etc. They do very well with being outside :)
I have a hard time being ok with separating them so young. It's no different than the mass produced milk cows when their babies are taken from them right away. Animals feel emotion and attachment and you are causing such stress to those mama goats, to all really. All for the sake of you having the milk that is meant for her babies. SAD.
You are very uneducated in regards to livestock, especially goats.
I think before you assume greed is the motivation here, you should do some research on WHY people separate and why a some customers would prefer or require a bottle fed kid over a dam raised.
Go away vegan
I completely disagree 😩