Remember seeing my first one at Peterborough, then chasing the other 99 the length of the country. Seems not so long ago. Then came the bloody ying yings
As a railwayman of some 37 years and a current serving driver of nearly 25 years and having driven 15 forms of traction, I have to say that the class 66 is a superb locomotive, strong and reliable. Very reliable. Since 2005 I have only had 6 locos fail on me that I couldn’t fix. I recall a week on class 47’s where I failed at least one a day! The 60’s are good but are far from reliable. Maybe with rebuilding with a GM engine they might be an excellent loco after all..
60008/038/090 could be usable as they look less wrecked. Maybe GE could rebuild them but with 60014 at EMD for whatever reason and a demand for freight locomotives being high. Perhaps some could be gutted and rebuilt with GE or EMD parts for a Class 62 or Class 64 type. So I wouldn't rule further use just yet. I still think GE could do something with these Class 60's though as they are more or less a Dash 8 in terms of the tech.
I was speaking to someone from Brush yesterday, and it appears that some are for component removal and a couple “could” be destined for test beds for future engine designs (possibly electric/hybrid).
Presumably if they were all for scrapping buyers would have expressed an interest whilst the Locos were parked up at Toton. Would then have made sense to just Tow them or transport them straight to the Recyclers yard for breaking.
There is a possibility that some of them may be saved or reborn into something new. There is probably more going on in offices working out to see newer engines or conversion into hybrid locos.
I believe there was more 60s being stored last time I was there, there was two groups instead of one group which makes me think that either one group has been transported to another company or wasn’t captured on camera as there definitely is more than one group of 60s there.
When I worked for EWS / DBC I suggested ten years ago that a 60 be re engined with a GM 710 power unit or larger. Up grade its traction control. You could have a 4000 hp loco that would be far better than the 69's
If new Diesels are banned then returning these to service may be an option as long as operators are not hung up on being carbon neutral (maybe return these to service and plant a load of trees at the same time?), or they may be suitable for conversion similar to the class 56 to 69 program. Failing all that, it would be good to see a few more preserved (some more 58's as well since they're mostly just rusting away on the continent)
Such a waste of resources that many of the 60s were stored when they were little more than 10 years old It is certainly not impossible to re-activate at least some of them (Some of the class 37s currently operational with UKRL were in similar condition before they were re-activated)
@@stevenpryce7808 obviously, all entitled to our opinions. I suspect you are too young to have grown up with the classes I mentioned. I’m too old to regard tugs as other that young upstarts.
Let's hope one day some of these will once again grace our railways.
Remember seeing my first one at Peterborough, then chasing the other 99 the length of the country. Seems not so long ago. Then came the bloody ying yings
As a railwayman of some 37 years and a current serving driver of nearly 25 years and having driven 15 forms of traction, I have to say that the class 66 is a superb locomotive, strong and reliable. Very reliable. Since 2005 I have only had 6 locos fail on me that I couldn’t fix. I recall a week on class 47’s where I failed at least one a day! The 60’s are good but are far from reliable. Maybe with rebuilding with a GM engine they might be an excellent loco after all..
60008/038/090 could be usable as they look less wrecked. Maybe GE could rebuild them but with 60014 at EMD for whatever reason and a demand for freight locomotives being high. Perhaps some could be gutted and rebuilt with GE or EMD parts for a Class 62 or Class 64 type. So I wouldn't rule further use just yet. I still think GE could do something with these Class 60's though as they are more or less a Dash 8 in terms of the tech.
I was speaking to someone from Brush yesterday, and it appears that some are for component removal and a couple “could” be destined for test beds for future engine designs (possibly electric/hybrid).
Great music!
Brilliant video well done great camera work as usual as well i am really enjoying your lovely videos keep it up bye for now Philip
Great drone vid. Top work
They could well be used for spares.
edit: 60 061 has a sign on the window saying brakes non operational.
Presumably if they were all for scrapping buyers would have expressed an interest whilst the Locos were parked up at Toton. Would then have made sense to just Tow them or transport them straight to the Recyclers yard for breaking.
love to see them in DCR green
I wonder if they will get the same upgrades that the class 56 units were given
Hopefully a few preservation groups or something will be able to secure them and return them to operational condition
Full circle as they were built there!
Let's hope some are saved,
Are those the new Class 730 West Midland trains in the background??
Hi Ravi, yes those are the ones 👍
There is a possibility that some of them may be saved or reborn into something new. There is probably more going on in offices working out to see newer engines or conversion into hybrid locos.
I believe there was more 60s being stored last time I was there, there was two groups instead of one group which makes me think that either one group has been transported to another company or wasn’t captured on camera as there definitely is more than one group of 60s there.
When I worked for EWS / DBC I suggested ten years ago that a 60 be re engined with a GM 710 power unit or larger. Up grade its traction control. You could have a 4000 hp loco that would be far better than the 69's
3000 hp is enough.
If new Diesels are banned then returning these to service may be an option as long as operators are not hung up on being carbon neutral (maybe return these to service and plant a load of trees at the same time?), or they may be suitable for conversion similar to the class 56 to 69 program.
Failing all that, it would be good to see a few more preserved (some more 58's as well since they're mostly just rusting away on the continent)
Last time there were that many 60s there was probably when they were being built in the early 90s!!!!!! Amazing sight.
Such a waste of resources that many of the 60s were stored when they were little more than 10 years old
It is certainly not impossible to re-activate at least some of them
(Some of the class 37s currently operational with UKRL were in similar condition before they were re-activated)
UKRL doesn't operate Class 37s.
I hope they do
When was this filmed. I only ask because there were some class 92 ‘s there yesterday.
It was 1-2 weeks ago..
@@trainsplanes ok . I went to see what could be seen, and they had put an artic trailer at the end covering up the rows.
Only one 92 there 006.
There is 3 more dcr 60s around the other side 013/75/98
I have a model of 60008 Gypsum Queen in Load Haul livery.
Can’t understand for the life of me. These places like Loughborough and Toten and others don’t have open days to raise money for charity.
Canabalisation and for the scrapper.
No. They are in store.
They are surplus
69/1 & maybe 69/2 possibly.
Boden Rail to overhaul them
60070 is a disgrace.
I take it it’s the one missing the most exterior parts in the video .
@@chrisrichmond403 Yep👍
GBRF took a loco from the buffers at Booths scrapyard for class 69 conversion. Nothing is too far gone.
Criminal waste of reusable resources...
Why? DCR has specifically purchased them.
No. Just stored.
Destroying capital
Stored.
As long as a couple of the class end up in preservation, no great loss for the others. They are hardly deltics, westerns, peaks, warships.
That's a matter of opinion,my opinion is there my favourite loco & far better than your aforementioned classes of loco
@@stevenpryce7808 obviously, all entitled to our opinions. I suspect you are too young to have grown up with the classes I mentioned. I’m too old to regard tugs as other that young upstarts.