Juggernaut would possible win in the first couple of fights, the thing about Doomsday is he keeps evolving to defeat his opponent. In the end the W will go to Doomsday.
Jugg is my favorite of all time but giving credit to doomsday for being what he is if it's a 1 and done jugg has it all the way, if it is a all out nonstop fight back to back I think its a draw bc jugg is just going to keep Matching him bc his power is near inexaustable
Just read comments above with actual DD feats and fact is he never adapted to blunt force. He have been killed several times also by that. The perfect adaptation story is disproved by feats.
@@charlessmith2963but DD can’t inmune to physic attack bro so how he can evolving by that ? U see superman punch him many time and DD still be punch right? if juggernaut throw a nuclear boom to DD, in that point DD will inmune to nuclear boom. So in the first fight is enough. DD is very strong in DC but these guy bring him and compared him with marvel and anime verse is a thing that kid do 🤣
@@albaestrada8603 cyttorac's agenda? ... to have a representative host for his power to bring destruction ... you could think of him as Khorne, the bloodgod of chaos from Warhammer 40K he doesn't care about his "champion's" desires but simply that if they use the gem they cause destruction ... otherwise they would not be fully empowered or at all ...
The idea that Doomsday cannot be killed is ABSOLUTELY wrong. He HAS been killed permanently twice and was only brought back through outside means. Also, DC themselves have admitted that Hulk was more powerful than Doomsday and a writer that has written for both Hulk and Doomsday stated that Doomsday would lose against Hulk. Edit: For the brainless people that cannot read. By killed permanently twice, one was by Impriex and he was only brought back because Lex Luthor cloned him. In other words, the original Doomsday is still dead and it was an entirely new creature. The second time was at the end of Hunter/Prey where he was brought back by a minion of Brainiac. Neither time did his regeneration bring him back. Without Lex or that minion of Brainiac he would still be dead, both times.
@@NeocadeX Your sources are the comics, read them for a change. Hell, one of the times is even almost mentioned in the video but he leaves out that part of it. Imperiex kills Doomsday and he is only brought back through outside means, NOT his own regeneration. Lex brought him back by cloning. Oh, and if you are talking about the Hulk part, the write is Greg Pak and DC admits Hulk is more powerful than Doomsday, I cannot remember which comic it is, but just google "DC green behemoth stronger than Doomsday".
This is why DD's RA ability is so awesome. How else could Hulk or Juggs beat DD besides brute force? Imagine the unknown adaptations DD could make vs Hulk or Juggs. Possibly a KO by Hulk or Juggs with GREAT effort (DD's been KO's only a few times I think, but not by punches). I'm picking DD.
Base Juggs can not even be hurt by Doomsday. Juggs is completely impervious to any and all physical attacks, Doomsday has nothing but physical attacks.
That's not true, he's virtually immune to MOST physical attacks most being the key word, beings like superman can most definitely hurt him and if superman can hurt him so can doomsday
@@choshow86not really because hulk aka Mr infinite strength can hit juggs and nothing happens superman has a set limit hulk has infinite possibility and has infinite durability he literally got ko'ed by juggs multiple times and hulk was only able to stop juggs after being boosted by apocalypse and doomsday can be killed permanently too it's stupid how many lies this guy told
@@choshow86 Juggernaut shrugs off attacks from Thor's hammer and Hulk. The Marvel vs DC comic where Superman beat Juggernaut with physical attacks is non-canon. The only way Classic Juggernaut gets beat in the comics is getting his helmet taken off and being attacked by Charles Xavier's telepathy.
First off, that's the lamest argument against vs battles ever, vs battles are a fun argument comparing character's moveset just saying "whoever the writer wants" while accurate is also kinda lame
Exactly. It’s why Superman can “contain “ the weight of a galaxy in his hands in one storyline and get knocked unconscious by a ray gun in another. Wrtiers aren’t obligated to abide by decades established canon anymore.
Peak Juggernaut > Peak Doomsday > Typical Doomsday > Weak Doomsday > Typical Juggernaut > Weak Juggernaut I think that's a fair assessment. Doomsday is the more consistent of the two. But Juggernaut's top feats are higher.
@@reddrex8617 A fine example of the inconsistency I was talking about. Typical Hulk definitely wins against typical Juggernaut. But you definitely get some silly exceptions.
This needs to happen. X3 was a meh teaser. Deadpool was very cool until they clowned him. I need to see him wail on the F4 or somebody until he has to turn antihero at the end and stomp the big bad.
@@aldeur did you not watch the video he literally said he could beat world breaker hulk and that the only way that he could even halt hum for a a few seconds is to step out of the way and let him run out of the fight
@@THE_OUTCAST36 Cytorax is nothing against toba that is why hulk should be always above. for doomsday if you think hulk can beat superman no one can save you.
I totally understand wym but when you think about how these characters been around for literal generations…there comes a point where they have to evolve ya know?
In a hypothetical battle between Doomsday and Juggernaut, based solely on their powers as depicted in comic books, here’s a look at the comic book facts: Doomsday is a formidable opponent with abilities that include: Superhuman strength, stamina, durability, speed, and leaping. Healing factor and adaptive evolution, allowing him to resurrect after death and become immune to what previously killed him. Controlled bone growth which can be used as weapons. Telescopic vision and immortality. Juggernaut (Cain Marko), on the other hand, possesses: Superhuman strength, stamina, durability, and speed. Self-sustenance and regeneration, granting him the ability to survive without basic human needs and recover from injuries. Unstoppable momentum, meaning once he begins moving, it’s nearly impossible to stop him. Immortality and a psychic shield provided by his helmet, protecting him from mental attacks. Considering their powers, the fight would likely be incredibly intense and destructive. Doomsday’s ability to adapt and evolve could potentially give him an edge, as he could become resistant to Juggernaut’s brute force. However, Juggernaut’s unstoppable momentum and immortality make him an equally relentless force. In the comics, both characters have been portrayed as nearly unbeatable, with Doomsday being known for killing Superman and Juggernaut for his battles against powerful beings like the Hulk. Without bias and based purely on their abilities, it’s plausible to conclude that the battle could result in a stalemate, with neither being able to permanently overcome the other due to their respective powers of immortality and regeneration. It’s a clash of two titans with no clear victor, as both are essentially forces of nature in their own right. The outcome might ultimately depend on the specific circumstances of their encounter and the creative direction of the writers.
Juggernaut once defeated Thor by grabbing the strap of Thor's hammer briefly allowing Juggy to fly when it was returning back to Thor. The scenes were beautifully drawn showing the Juggernaut crashing into Thor as they went through multiple train-cars and a building causing a fiery explosion. Then showing Thor totally flat out on his back unconscious. Of course, to protect Thor's reputation, that same story portrayed Thor of becoming unusually weak at times. I always admired Marvel writers entering an excuse on why their treasured characters would lose a fight. But at least Marvel wasn't afraid of their characters being physically defeated every once in a while. Now a lot of formidable characters in Marvel and DC are purposely nerfed by modern writers.
Would go for longer Juggernaut would never age and never get tired. The only way to stop him in the moment is to entrap him where he can't move period. That's how Spiderman beat him by encasing him in concrete. Doomsday would never beat him that way because you would have to actively intending to restrain him, that, of course, is something Doomsday would never try to do so this fight would never end as long as the stone that gives him his power existed.
And he's taking the old juggernaut too cus juggernaut has fought and defeated beings like Galactus before with ease it's so stupidly twisted in doomsdays favor it's crazy juggs has infinite power doomsday doesn't have that
@@Godsoldiergaming juggs doesn't have Infinite power he has Infinite stamina and in every superman world there's a doomsday that contested him and DC made all those worlds canon so Doomsday should be that strong also fighting a guy that can hold infinity and black wholes and destroy multiverses and infinite space casually outscales
@@orpheemulemo8053 Doomsday was never contesting against the stronger superman's...he was always an enemy "far in the past" in those runs. Doomsday is strong, but he is not the power level this guy considers. Best part? That Access event he talks about was decided by votes for the heroes/villains. Doomsday wasn't a part of those comics either because the fans back then AND THE WRITERS stated that he would have to be put against Juggernaut, Thing, or Hulk...and all 3 of them are stronger than Doomsday. The writers at DC have actively acknowledged all three of them are able to take out Doomsday. Which in itself ends all arguments people should have. The reasoning they gave for each was pretty good really too. Doomsday has limits, his is only slightly stronger than base Superman, slightly more durable than base Superman, and slightly more endurance than base Superman. Meanwhile the Thing has a durability off the charts while having the strength to contend with the Hulk (Thing is Hulk's rival early on when Hulk was mostly an unwilling villain) and the endurance to just outlast the Hulk till they could talk sense into him and bring Banner back out. Hulk's strength is immense and even base Hulk outclasses Doomsday by miles, the only reason Hulk lost to Superman in the one crossover is because of the votes. Hulk's durability is more than Doomsday as well. Doomsday does have more endurance than base Hulk but the problem here is Doomsday is an animal and dumb...and wouldn't capitalize on it. Then you have Juggernaut who is Durability and Endurance personified. His strength is limited by Cytorak, well all of his stats really, but strength is actually his weakest stat. To live up to his name he has incredible endurance and durability to just keep going. He also has insane levels of invulnerability that would ultimately be why Doomsday would fall to him as the beast has no means of breaking his invulnerability. Remember Doomsday only counters the invulnerability of Kryptonians! These are the reasons the writers themselves gave why Doomsday would fall to those 3 characters. Superman could best them because Superman would not fight a purely physical game and would use his other powers to contend with them as well, which tips the scales. Doomsday only has his physical attacks, his decidedly anti-kryptonian nature, and an unfortunately beastial mind that limits his cunning.
@@Nempo13 the writer of invincible said Omniman beats superman and that's a long comic issue that doesn't compare to knew DC scaling the fact is since superman base Has universal level fears anybody that can equal superman without the use of underhanded tactics while superman is being serious should scale to that basic he then Added that doomsday regen and Ability to come back to life also superman's base strength has been shown to move hold planets doomsday is consistently beating the shit out of superman Unfortunately does he scale to the highest interpretation of superman no but base to serious superman doomsday scales directly too so he wins
Trion Juggernaut, which is Juggernaut with 100% of Cyttorak's power at his command, was ripping through space time with a swing of his fist and smashing apart barriers that separate entire dimensions from one another as well as shattering reality. He's tanked, not even at full power, full power hits from Thor who can turn planets into pebbles with them. And it didn't even phase him. You seriously lowballed Juggernaut here. Doomsday is able to adapt to ordinary physical damage and regenerate stronger after being defeated. If full power Trion Juggernaut hit Doomsday, then his reality, space and time, and dimensional destroying strikes would permanently remove Doomsday from the universe. This isn't omega beams that send you back in time crap. His punches fracture all of reality at max power and he is completely invulnerable and unphased by even the strongest Marvel characters brutality. World War Hulk isn't stronger. Not even Rune King Thor is stronger. Nor is One Below All empowered Entropy Hulk. Once you start shattering reality with a punch, the power scale becomes multiversal and Doomsday is barely a galaxy level threat.
Joggernaut was nerfed. He is not a mutant, but a guy possessed by a demon with magic by an energy stone. He was really unstoppable before, they nerfed him for the plot.
Yeah thats my thought as well. One of the biggest things with doomsday is that he doesnt get tired. Thats not gonna be an issue for Juggernaut. As the avatar of destruction just the collateral from their fight would make Cytorak so happy he would boost Juggs to new levels
ignorant doomsday are not be create by kryptonian, and for information he can adapt to magic the only chance to survive against doomsday is knock out and flee before he awake more powerfull than the cause of his death, he has already scared powerfull cosmic being in DC and he was not in his prime
@@aldeur I know theyge retconned him multiple times but his original version was that he was a Kryptonian invention.They used that to inspire the version in the most recent superman movies.
Here is the reason the video is not entirely accurate: At 8:41, hulk did stop juggernaut. This was incredible hulk issue 457 when the hulk became one of the horsemen of apocalypse. At 8:43, the only reason juggernaut beats the hulk is because it was professor hulk who couldn't get stronger the angrier he gets. More importantly, Juggernaut disguised himself as a civilian so professor Hulk held back because he didn't know it was Juggernaut. He taught it was a regular guy. Juggernaut kept using gorilla tactics. He would punch the hulk then run away. More info in the replies below
At the same time, he forgot to mention Juggernaut's almost instantaneous healing factor (X force issue 4) . And the fact that he is listed as "Totally indestructible" in his durability rating in marvel universe hand book even without the shield .
Crossovers just don’t work because then you start pulling in that Tryon version of juggernaut that surpasses beyonder and cosmic cube and things like that.
Stop it😂 He can't do anything to The Beyonder. The Beyonder is either 2 or 3 in Marvel. The Trion version is meaningless garbage only appeared like 8 times, back in the 60s and early 70s. We weren't even born yet!!!
No. He can be killed the same way, over, and over, and over, and over, and over. He just becomes resistant. But with a character like Hulk, whose ceiling is literally destroying the very fabric of all existence, matter, spacetime, consciousness, life, energy, of the entire multiverse with his bare hands, how ever resistant Doomsday may be against getting beaten to death, Hulk will still be able to beat him to death. Even if Hulk beat Doomday to death a billion times, with each revival, Doomsday becoming a billion times more resistant to them Hulk hands, Hulk would continue beating Doomsday to death another Billion times. Hulk’s body was made by a being that is only equal to The Presence in DC, to be the physical means of the destruction of everything. Doomsday was made by a High Evolutionary rip-off.
removing the helmet doesn't remove Juggernaut's impenetrable field, that field is always active. The helmet is psionic protection because what he is vulnerable to is telepaths like his step brother.
Trion Juggs wins. Maybe even a properly written classic Juggernaut. Many writers seem to forget he has an impenetrable forcefield, for example. Of course Juggs is way weaker now, which is where that quote about Hulk being stronger came from.
@@jonashworth9757 Yup. The entire point of juggs was a enemy they could not just punch out, so what is captain punchy going to do to win. He should show up rarely as there are only so many variations of throwing him into the ocean you can do before it gets old.
I always tell people, Juggernaut is a hard counter to Doomsday. He literally has nothing to stop him. Also Danco you’re wrong. The helmet has nothing to do with his abilities. It’s just that he’s not protected by psychic attacks so he wears the helmet for the exact same reason as Magneto. Fear of Charles
Has Doomsday evolved to resist magic effects yet? Because Juggernaut's tricks are demon magic. That's why he cannot be stopped. That's why he's so strong and so indestructible.
12:20 I also remember there being a crossover issue where Juggernaut punch his way across realities and ended up in Metropolis. I think the next issue showed Superman and Juggernaut fighting.
Its always a writer thing as Stan Lee said. Fact sheet im personally going with Juggz. Doomsday is strong but Juggz has so much more versatility and power. I mean if he wasnt a villain in the past and more loved, he would win more. Also being magic based, he would have a stronger fight against a standard Superman too.
Yes but sadly doomsday would comeback alive evolved from whatever killed him and even if juggernaut could do it again, doomsday would eventually be immune and win. Doomsday is written to be death itself. Juggernaut would sadly lose after maybe a second or third conflict
@@stevein.thats not true peak juggernaut has the backing of cosmic beings , doomsday dies for good when dying at the hands of cosmic beings so he does infact have a limit
Doomsday is beating Juggernaut, hes beaten Kingdom Come Superman and beaten Darkseid who both would beat Juggernaut. It would be a badass fight id love to watch tho.
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Juggernaut doesn't need the helmet to make the force field to work. It just protects his mind from telepaths. Also, him beating Hulk isn't technically a feat of pure strength since he has hax in his arsenal. It's like this, Juggy is a Tank build, Thor is DPS, and Hulk is both. And, the book didn't just have infinite pages, it has the life story of whoever touches it.
It depends on which version of the Juggernaut. Cyttorak has depowered him a few times like when he joins the X-Men because he's not violent enough for the god's liking. There have been versions of Juggernaut that have been totally ridiculous like this time he punch his way through time and space. Pretty crazy.
As powerful as Juggs, Doomsday has caused fear in Darkseid himself. Doomsday also has better feats too, Juggernaut tends to job a lot and he has too many anti feats. Even at the peak of their strength I’ll still give it to Doomsday.
Doomsday has more feats I mean ik pipo gone argue bt let's be real here he beat darkside a being who was able to beat superman n the justice league a being who conquered the planet in darkapocalyse even tho it's a clone u still got to give doomsday his flowers defeating even jxt one clone of darkside is no easy feat doomsday wins
U mean the same avatars that were able to conquer earth in darkapocalyse the same avatar that was able to beat superman on multiple occasions the same avatar that has universal power ryt yeah we kno
Nah .. juggernaut is always done wrong by writers. His literal attributes make him more powerful than the hulk. To me the hulk is a joke because you can only get so angry. Dont get me started on the hulks anger. If the writers didnt misrepresent juggs by having him be a punching bag rather than what his attributes have him as, i think he will beat doomsday.
Doomsday is a HEAVILY modified Kryptonian, so its probable he has Supermans weakness to magic..and Juggernaut isnt a mutant, hes a magically powered human, so means he has a slight edge.
So I'm not the most informed when it comes to the comic book variants, but I think it'd probabay be a stalemate. Some points I've seen are that Juggernaut does not tire, need nutrition, and can survive in space. As well as I'm aware, Doomsday can too. Both of them are absurdly powerful beings with their own ways around death, either with adaptive evolution and self reviving capabilities or utter invulnerability and that force field. At the very least it's highly likely that Doomsday would just adapt to Juggernaut's strength unless Juggernaut could vaporize him in one go, leaving him with nothing to regenerate from. As for dealing with Juggernaut's magical nature, Doomsday lives in a universe full of magical beings. Could he adapt a way to get around it? Maybe, but as far as I'm aware he hasn't yet adapted to magic. So in the end, it'd probably just turn into a never ending slugfest between the two
Look if I'm picking for one person to have in my corner, either Juggernaut or Doomsday, I'm going with Juggernaut. If Juggernaut is fighting for his life, Cyttorak will just make him more powerful.
@@SIoyvenheaven1T800m101 what? you dont know what constant adaptation power means in the beginning juggernaut could be more powerfull but in the end doomsday should be infinitly above cytorax himself
@@aldeur You don’t know what anything means. Juggernaut can’t be physically harmed by any means (only way doomsday can attack) and Juggernaut has unlimited strength which scales way above doomsday. It’s not close. Juggernaut stomps and Marvel is way too strong.
@@SIoyvenheaven1T800m101 doomsday can adapt to any kind of concept death magic time space etc when you fight doomsday he copy all your ability with include magic and psychic power i said all doomsday has scared cosmic being infinitly above him who knock him down and teleport him in another dimension before he copy all their power like nothing doomsday is the cheat code
Power scaling for comics characters is so arbitrary and inconsistent, subject to the whims of the writers, that comparisons like this are virtually pointless without an established and rigorously adhered-to canon for them.
Who is also psionic in nature, one of Juggernaut's two weaknesses. Magic and psychics both by pass his force field and can harm him. This does nothing to help Doomsday win, as it just shows Doomsday lacks the means to harm Cain.
At first Doomsday didn't have much story, but as time went on his back story included this thing where he comes back stronger whenever he's killed, hence why he is so strong now where he's enduring thousands or millions of deaths. When Doomsday first showed up dozens of super heroes couldn't even stop him, not even Superman (who he was only able to put into a coma). When Juggernaut first shows up, the X-men find ways to take him out regularly.
Defeating Juggernaut wouldn’t actually be hard at all, once you understand how his powers function. He requires momentum to gain the force that keeps his acceleration. Inertia via his momentum from running requires a solid surface to run on. All you would need to do to stop him is remove the ground from under him, and that goes away. Tons of characters, both Marvel and DC, can do that, whether by lifting him up off the ground or other means. Marvel (and DC characters who get written into these cross universe battles) characters, you’re welcome.
Sounds like a great way to make Doomsday immune to infinite strength. Remember, he adapts to anything. He adapted to Darkseid's Omega Rays. Nothing Juggernaut has will faze Doomsday more than once.
@@richardkenan2891 Hunter Prey is only time Doomsday did that. Every other appearance he's been beaten to death just fine. A gang of kryptonians pounded him to death. None of them were even named characters, so yeah he can be smacked around just fine. Cain is immune to physical damage and Doomsday is too dumb to use battlefield removal to win. This basically is rigged for Cain to win the fight.
@@aldeur Doomsday can be beaten to death and has multiple times. Juggernaut is physically immune to damage. There's no viable way for Doomsday to win, as he's not smart enough use battlefield removal. He just keeps punching his opponents till they die, but it won't ever work. The entire point of Juggernaut is he's a villain you can't punch to death and you need outsmart or remove from the field as a threat. Doomdays lacks the tools or intelligence to win. Doomsday can come back, but it generally takes awhile while Cain never falls.
I think the phrase it's not even close is a phrase used for the novelty of it that is completely inaccurate. If this fight is anything, it's a close fight. But Juggernaut takes it. The classic Juggernaut with the Gem is absolutely invulnerable with the exception of psychic attacks. Has armor as durable as him. Has limitless strength, and stamina, Longevity, Instant regeneration, extreme durability, density, virtually physically indestructible, Force Field Generation, and Unstoppable Momentum. And Juggernaut doesn't have to die to access his defensive and offensive ability, and he can't die as long as we're talking about the standard version with the gem. Fight to the death, yes Doomsday will resurrect, but fight to the death Juggs takes it. Juggernaut is an absolute. Marvel isn't as consistent with their feats and they are ever contradicting. So I know history of feats and analysis of stats is always the go to for determining these match ups but when you have so many inconsistencies this renders that variable as a point of reference to conclude what can beat Juggernaut as a unreliable conclusion. Technically the fight just goes on and on. But, if we go unto one dies 1st then Doomsday is going to die first. Juggernaut is nigh invulnerable, as strong as he wants to be, Indestructible armor, indestructible force field and Unstoppable momentum. Marvel feats are so inconsistent they contradict each other, Like Hulk can stop Juggernaut, when the integrity of Juggs powerset shouldn't be compromised just to make Hulk look better. Marvels writers don't strictly adhere to the very power concepts inherent to their characters so feats as a frame of reference is outta the bag for me.
may be you dont know what constant adaptation means in the beginning juggernaut could be more powerfull but in the end doomsday would be infinitly above cytorax himself
From what I know ,comics are drawn by different creators and the characters in some comics have different power levels, in some comics characters can destroy planets, and in other comics The same character can not even destroy a planet
@@Ahglock Powerscaling is lazy anyways. People rely on that too much, as basically if someone lives in a unvierse where a character is capable of soloing Godzilla....anyone in that universe can too by that logic. If you didn't actually do the feat yourself, or the context of the feat is removed, you invalidate your own argument. Doomsday has been beaten down by far less than Omega beams, so the notion Juggenraut doesn't cobbler him is laughable. Doomsday basically if you made a dumber villain hulk with spikes who kills people. If the Hulk can't punch out Juggernaut and he has limitless strength..why would a guy with Bonespikes do any better?
My biggest problem with these comparisons is they never take the loser at their most powerful. Trion Juggernaut is able to punch holes into other dimensions, that feat is something that Doomsday has never done in any iteration or even came close to.
Stalemate, but slight edge to Juggernaut... Because magic > science. Both are basically "unkillable" , but Doomsday's evolution comes from his defeats & deaths. So does that count as a loss if Doomsday dies; if only temporarily? Meanwhile, Juggernaut has never been killed in the comics (at least not in continuity). Juggernaut has no upper threshold of power. Cyttorak endowed him with more power to become Trion Juggernaut, and he was punching holes in reality. That was only Juggernaut's peak SO FAR. He arguably has unlimited power if Cyttorak wishes. And that would be more than enough to put down Doomsday, if only temporarily. At the end of the day, Juggernaut's mystical powers defy reality. Doomsday on the other hand is mostly bound by physics & the laws of the universe.
@@LiquidusGaming Nonsense. Doomsday can be beaten to death and has multiple times. Juggernaut is physically immune to damage. There's no viable way for Doomsday to win, as he's not smart enough use battlefield removal. He just keeps punching his opponents till they die, but it won't ever work. The entire point of Juggernaut is he's a villain you can't punch to death and you need outsmart or remove from the field as a threat. Doomdays lacks the tools or intelligence to win.
Problem is they needed juggernaut throughout the years because they realized they made him entirely too strong. The reason they brought in Thor was to fight and compete against the hulk. Two of the strongest characters in marvel. Then they introduce juggernaut who laughs at them. Because his power comes from a deity and not a mutant or something like that. Peak juggernaut before the nerfing to make him beatable is THE unstoppable force.
I am not a comic book nerd. I want to be but I am not. I know where I am outclassed, but even I know its Jugs. He has the helmet to protect his ONLY weakness, mind powers.
The panel that shows juggernaut agreeing hulk was stronger isn't accurate because at that point he had a fraction of the power of cytorak and wasn't as strong as he normally was and i don't agree juggernaut is overrated if anything he's underrated he's just become a jobber nowadays but he was a demon back in the days.
Nonsense. Doomsday been beaten down by far less than Superman. Steel exploded him to ashes. A gang of Kryptonians pounded him down. His new car smell wore off after Hunter Prey and he's been taken down. There was no where to go but down for Doomy as he started off with Death of Superman. Doomsday can be beaten to death and has multiple times. Juggernaut is physically immune to damage. There's no viable way for Doomsday to win, as he's not smart enough use battlefield removal. He just keeps punching his opponents till they die, but it won't ever work. The entire point of Juggernaut is he's a villain you can't punch to death and you need outsmart or remove from the field as a threat. Doomdays lacks the tools or intelligence to win.
@@Painisforever0 You know what the Xmen and Hulk have that Doomsday doesn't? Intelligence and Psychic powers. You seem to be missing that context to why both can beat the juggernaut. The Juggernaut at 100% of his power with Cyttorak is 100% immune to physical damage. Punching Juggernaut does NOTHING. What part of that do you not get? Doomsday been beaten to death plenty of times. There's no reason to assume juggernaut can't do the same when Superman has literally torn this worthless MF-er in half.
@@LastjusticeSuperman would dog the shit out of juggernaut that immune to damage shit only work on weak characters Thor with his bare hands beat the shit outta juggernaut Doomsday would do him even worse it takes the whole justice league to get bullied by him to see his power
@@Painisforever0 No, you are talking out of your ass. Thor tossed the Midguard Serpent which weights as much as the planet Earth off the earth while it was coiled around the planet. In Justice league Cross over Thor and Superman beat the hell out of each other. Superman wins, but easily gets flattened afterwards as he has nothing in the tank after the fight. So this notion Thor isn't on par with Superman is utter nonsense. Thor and Hulk both have never harmed the Juggernaut when he was at his full power. Even DC agrees the Hulk is stronger than Superman. Juggernaut is literally immune to physical damage, is immortal, never needs eat sleep or breath when he has the full power form Cyttorak. Only Psionics or Magic harm him, which Doomsday is neither. (And Doomy is entirely too dumb to battlefield removal for the win.) Juggernaut has regenerated from being blasted to a skeleton by spells then instantly back too full power.if something does manage to damage him. His force field warded off the Godblast from thor which sent Galactus running, whom would demolish Superman. Doomsday been beaten to a pulp by random Kryptonians. Just a gang of them smashed his sorry butt. He gets beaten to death regularly. Juggernaut has never died, even during his depowered phases. Doomsday has died repeatedly. These are facts and you can dog walk your out of here so you can stop embaressing yourself. You don't have anything to back up your bullcrap.
And he SLAPPED his Hands together, ending TEN UNIVERSES, while Being the Cause of Two Dozen More Big Bangs! The Feats of Strength and Invincibility just NEVER ends with the people that write the characters in the Comics. What they FAIL to realize, and one of the BIG reasons Marvel tends to sell better over all, is that the Avid Fans and Readers WANT Imperfection in their HEROES.
Marvel has been power scaling like Dc recently. Hulk has punches that shake the infinite multiverse, apparently the word infinite has lost meaning in the marvel universe just like it has in DC. Though Juggs was initially infinitely durable. He was a plot device villain to give the hero a enemy they couldn't just punch their way to victory on, they actually needed a plan..
One thing that wasnt mentioned was the Juggernaut's power is give to him by a God, And at anytime can increase or decrease how powerful Juggernaut is. I'm not sure Juggernaut has ever gotten 100% use of his full use his powers.
Thank you! People here seem to have forgotten the whole point of DD is to evolve to overcome anything put in his way. Juggernaut will probably win a few fights but DD will take the ultimate win
@@Saber170292 The whole evolving thing is overstated as he got nerfed post Hunter Prey(where he tanked Omega beams and basically had to be banished to the end of time to be removed as a threat). His new car smell wore off, and he became much easier to drop after that. Superman and other people have punched him to death with any real issue multiple times. Doomsday can be beaten to death and has multiple times. Juggernaut is physically immune to damage. There's no viable way for Doomsday to win, as he's not smart enough use battlefield removal. He just keeps punching his opponents till they die, but it won't ever work. The entire point of Juggernaut is he's a villain you can't punch to death and you need outsmart or remove from the field as a threat. Doomdays lacks the tools or intelligence to win. Even if he returns, it basically never goes his way since he still is limited to same set of attacked that still don't work on Cain. Cain immortality protects him against everything Doomsday does, and I think Doomsday would eventually become too afraid of Cain to continue this contest.
Doomsday can be beaten to death and has multiple times. Juggernaut is physically immune to damage. There's no viable way for Doomsday to win, as he's not smart enough use battlefield removal. He just keeps punching his opponents till they die, but it won't ever work. The entire point of Juggernaut is he's a villain you can't punch to death and you need outsmart or remove from the field as a threat. Doomdays lacks the tools or intelligence to win. This fight is basically rigged for Juggernaut to win.
I remember in the X-men animated series... Juggernaught got tossed by the first cosmic (?) character that showed up... just chucked him... And that was the image I had left in my head lol😂
They softened juggernaut over the years. The one I grew up on was unstoppable. I’m rolling with juggernaut
Juggernaut would possible win in the first couple of fights, the thing about Doomsday is he keeps evolving to defeat his opponent. In the end the W will go to Doomsday.
Jugg is my favorite of all time but giving credit to doomsday for being what he is if it's a 1 and done jugg has it all the way, if it is a all out nonstop fight back to back I think its a draw bc jugg is just going to keep Matching him bc his power is near inexaustable
Just read comments above with actual DD feats and fact is he never adapted to blunt force. He have been killed several times also by that. The perfect adaptation story is disproved by feats.
Totally agree.
@@charlessmith2963but DD can’t inmune to physic attack bro so how he can evolving by that ? U see superman punch him many time and DD still be punch right? if juggernaut throw a nuclear boom to DD, in that point DD will inmune to nuclear boom. So in the first fight is enough. DD is very strong in DC but these guy bring him and compared him with marvel and anime verse is a thing that kid do 🤣
Juggernaut isn’t a mutant he was a human tht got powers from an ancient stone
Dumb storyline honestly lol when does he ever interact with that stones maker in the cartoons lol whatsvhis agenda even?
Bruh what?@@albaestrada8603
@@albaestrada8603 cyttorac's agenda? ... to have a representative host for his power to bring destruction ...
you could think of him as Khorne, the bloodgod of chaos from Warhammer 40K
he doesn't care about his "champion's" desires but simply that if they use the gem they cause destruction ... otherwise they would not be fully empowered or at all ...
Good job, Scooby Doo.
Yeah, people keep on calling him a mutant (Sinister, too.).
The idea that Doomsday cannot be killed is ABSOLUTELY wrong. He HAS been killed permanently twice and was only brought back through outside means. Also, DC themselves have admitted that Hulk was more powerful than Doomsday and a writer that has written for both Hulk and Doomsday stated that Doomsday would lose against Hulk.
Edit: For the brainless people that cannot read. By killed permanently twice, one was by Impriex and he was only brought back because Lex Luthor cloned him. In other words, the original Doomsday is still dead and it was an entirely new creature. The second time was at the end of Hunter/Prey where he was brought back by a minion of Brainiac. Neither time did his regeneration bring him back. Without Lex or that minion of Brainiac he would still be dead, both times.
proof?
Gonna need some sources on that hoss.
Absolutely correct.
@@NeocadeX Your sources are the comics, read them for a change. Hell, one of the times is even almost mentioned in the video but he leaves out that part of it. Imperiex kills Doomsday and he is only brought back through outside means, NOT his own regeneration. Lex brought him back by cloning. Oh, and if you are talking about the Hulk part, the write is Greg Pak and DC admits Hulk is more powerful than Doomsday, I cannot remember which comic it is, but just google "DC green behemoth stronger than Doomsday".
This is why DD's RA ability is so awesome. How else could Hulk or Juggs beat DD besides brute force? Imagine the unknown adaptations DD could make vs Hulk or Juggs. Possibly a KO by Hulk or Juggs with GREAT effort (DD's been KO's only a few times I think, but not by punches). I'm picking DD.
Juggernaut can become even more powerful if Cyttorak allows it.
Yep. A lot of people don't know that.
Big if
😂 yeah but doomsday doesn't need someone to allow him get stronger
That someone is thr writer. Lol, try again
That's a total copout lmao
Base Juggs can not even be hurt by Doomsday. Juggs is completely impervious to any and all physical attacks, Doomsday has nothing but physical attacks.
Doomsday could literally throw juggs in to orbit
@@ShelleyLevyMusic And? Juggs could do the exact same thing to him and neither of them would be effected by that.
That's not true, he's virtually immune to MOST physical attacks most being the key word, beings like superman can most definitely hurt him and if superman can hurt him so can doomsday
@@choshow86not really because hulk aka Mr infinite strength can hit juggs and nothing happens superman has a set limit hulk has infinite possibility and has infinite durability he literally got ko'ed by juggs multiple times and hulk was only able to stop juggs after being boosted by apocalypse and doomsday can be killed permanently too it's stupid how many lies this guy told
@@choshow86 Juggernaut shrugs off attacks from Thor's hammer and Hulk. The Marvel vs DC comic where Superman beat Juggernaut with physical attacks is non-canon. The only way Classic Juggernaut gets beat in the comics is getting his helmet taken off and being attacked by Charles Xavier's telepathy.
The true answer is the same as with any Vs. argument, and that is that the winner depends on who is writing the comic.
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First off, that's the lamest argument against vs battles ever, vs battles are a fun argument comparing character's moveset just saying "whoever the writer wants" while accurate is also kinda lame
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Comics are never consistent.
Exactly. It’s why Superman can “contain “ the weight of a galaxy in his hands in one storyline and get knocked unconscious by a ray gun in another. Wrtiers aren’t obligated to abide by decades established canon anymore.
Peak Juggernaut > Peak Doomsday > Typical Doomsday > Weak Doomsday > Typical Juggernaut > Weak Juggernaut
I think that's a fair assessment. Doomsday is the more consistent of the two. But Juggernaut's top feats are higher.
Juggs choked out Hulk, without his armor on, in a classic Marvel comic. Marko was wearing a Big Earl from Dinosaurs t-shirt 😎👍
@@TexasHollowEarthhulk literally beat jugs almost everytime they fought
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False, Doomsday's top feats are far greater.
@@reddrex8617 A fine example of the inconsistency I was talking about.
Typical Hulk definitely wins against typical Juggernaut.
But you definitely get some silly exceptions.
I still want to see Juggernaut in his armored out fit in an MCU film and wrecking havoc-TOO.
This needs to happen. X3 was a meh teaser. Deadpool was very cool until they clowned him. I need to see him wail on the F4 or somebody until he has to turn antihero at the end and stomp the big bad.
Sooo close in Deadpool but we got him in that jail outfit 😩
This would've been literally
Unstoppable force vs unstoppable force
jugger cant even defeat normal hulk
@@aldeur did you not watch the video he literally said he could beat world breaker hulk and that the only way that he could even halt hum for a a few seconds is to step out of the way and let him run out of the fight
@@THE_OUTCAST36 Cytorax is nothing against toba that is why hulk should be always above.
for doomsday if you think hulk can beat superman no one can save you.
@@aldeur ok dude you need a mental health check nobody said anything about any of them
DD can't beat Hulk either! Didn't DC say this year's ago?
The one thing i dont like about comics is that it makes every character a god basically with impossible to even think of feats
Yeah and I noticed like most of the heroes have more than one power especially the X-Men
Their cosmology explains why they can be so powerful
I totally understand wym but when you think about how these characters been around for literal generations…there comes a point where they have to evolve ya know?
Skilless writers for childish readers. The opposite of what Lee and Kirby put together for Marvel
A lot of that is DC with their “gods among men” motif, where Marvel goes more for “men trying to be like gods”
In a hypothetical battle between Doomsday and Juggernaut, based solely on their powers as depicted in comic books, here’s a look at the comic book facts:
Doomsday is a formidable opponent with abilities that include: Superhuman strength, stamina, durability, speed, and leaping. Healing factor and adaptive evolution, allowing him to resurrect after death and become immune to what previously killed him. Controlled bone growth which can be used as weapons. Telescopic vision and immortality.
Juggernaut (Cain Marko), on the other hand, possesses: Superhuman strength, stamina, durability, and speed. Self-sustenance and regeneration, granting him the ability to survive without basic human needs and recover from injuries. Unstoppable momentum, meaning once he begins moving, it’s nearly impossible to stop him. Immortality and a psychic shield provided by his helmet, protecting him from mental attacks.
Considering their powers, the fight would likely be incredibly intense and destructive. Doomsday’s ability to adapt and evolve could potentially give him an edge, as he could become resistant to Juggernaut’s brute force. However, Juggernaut’s unstoppable momentum and immortality make him an equally relentless force. In the comics, both characters have been portrayed as nearly unbeatable, with Doomsday being known for killing Superman and Juggernaut for his battles against powerful beings like the Hulk. Without bias and based purely on their abilities, it’s plausible to conclude that the battle could result in a stalemate, with neither being able to permanently overcome the other due to their respective powers of immortality and regeneration. It’s a clash of two titans with no clear victor, as both are essentially forces of nature in their own right. The outcome might ultimately depend on the specific circumstances of their encounter and the creative direction of the writers.
Unstoppable spear meets unbreakable shield😊
Juggernaut, at peak power as Trion Juggernaut, punches holes in reality. Doomsday does nothing of the sort at his peak.
You really asked ChatGPT?
Juggernaut once defeated Thor by grabbing the strap of Thor's hammer briefly allowing Juggy to fly when it was returning back to Thor. The scenes were beautifully drawn showing the Juggernaut crashing into Thor as they went through multiple train-cars and a building causing a fiery explosion. Then showing Thor totally flat out on his back unconscious. Of course, to protect Thor's reputation, that same story portrayed Thor of becoming unusually weak at times. I always admired Marvel writers entering an excuse on why their treasured characters would lose a fight. But at least Marvel wasn't afraid of their characters being physically defeated every once in a while. Now a lot of formidable characters in Marvel and DC are purposely nerfed by modern writers.
It’s a Stalemate/Draw. It’s that simple.
Unstoppable vs unkillable. Would be an amazing match to watch. I’d imagine this fight going on for decades
Nah eventually Spectre would get bored of watching it and come turn them both into frogs.
@@JuliusTurner-hm6ff 😂 indeed
Would go for longer Juggernaut would never age and never get tired. The only way to stop him in the moment is to entrap him where he can't move period. That's how Spiderman beat him by encasing him in concrete. Doomsday would never beat him that way because you would have to actively intending to restrain him, that, of course, is something Doomsday would never try to do so this fight would never end as long as the stone that gives him his power existed.
Doomsday has died, juggernaut is literally immortal
I think your scaling is off, you are comparing a doomsday to a Superman that didn’t exist when they fought.
And he's taking the old juggernaut too cus juggernaut has fought and defeated beings like Galactus before with ease it's so stupidly twisted in doomsdays favor it's crazy juggs has infinite power doomsday doesn't have that
@@Godsoldiergaming juggs doesn't have Infinite power he has Infinite stamina and in every superman world there's a doomsday that contested him and DC made all those worlds canon so Doomsday should be that strong also fighting a guy that can hold infinity and black wholes and destroy multiverses and infinite space casually outscales
@@orpheemulemo8053 Doomsday was never contesting against the stronger superman's...he was always an enemy "far in the past" in those runs. Doomsday is strong, but he is not the power level this guy considers.
Best part? That Access event he talks about was decided by votes for the heroes/villains. Doomsday wasn't a part of those comics either because the fans back then AND THE WRITERS stated that he would have to be put against Juggernaut, Thing, or Hulk...and all 3 of them are stronger than Doomsday. The writers at DC have actively acknowledged all three of them are able to take out Doomsday. Which in itself ends all arguments people should have. The reasoning they gave for each was pretty good really too. Doomsday has limits, his is only slightly stronger than base Superman, slightly more durable than base Superman, and slightly more endurance than base Superman.
Meanwhile the Thing has a durability off the charts while having the strength to contend with the Hulk (Thing is Hulk's rival early on when Hulk was mostly an unwilling villain) and the endurance to just outlast the Hulk till they could talk sense into him and bring Banner back out.
Hulk's strength is immense and even base Hulk outclasses Doomsday by miles, the only reason Hulk lost to Superman in the one crossover is because of the votes. Hulk's durability is more than Doomsday as well. Doomsday does have more endurance than base Hulk but the problem here is Doomsday is an animal and dumb...and wouldn't capitalize on it.
Then you have Juggernaut who is Durability and Endurance personified. His strength is limited by Cytorak, well all of his stats really, but strength is actually his weakest stat. To live up to his name he has incredible endurance and durability to just keep going. He also has insane levels of invulnerability that would ultimately be why Doomsday would fall to him as the beast has no means of breaking his invulnerability. Remember Doomsday only counters the invulnerability of Kryptonians!
These are the reasons the writers themselves gave why Doomsday would fall to those 3 characters. Superman could best them because Superman would not fight a purely physical game and would use his other powers to contend with them as well, which tips the scales. Doomsday only has his physical attacks, his decidedly anti-kryptonian nature, and an unfortunately beastial mind that limits his cunning.
@@Nempo13 the writer of invincible said Omniman beats superman and that's a long comic issue that doesn't compare to knew DC scaling the fact is since superman base
Has universal level fears anybody that can equal superman without the use of underhanded tactics while superman is being serious should scale to that basic he then
Added that doomsday regen and Ability to come back to life also superman's base strength has been shown to move hold planets doomsday is consistently beating the shit out of superman
Unfortunately does he scale to the highest interpretation of superman no but base to serious superman doomsday scales directly too so he wins
Out of these two Chuck Norris will win
Crazy thing is the very Doomsday that fought and beat Superman wasn’t even full grown yet
Superman beat Doomsday too
@whitelichmage7004 Amazo
In a comic he did fight the adult doomsday who broke out of the phantom zone and he ripped doomsday in half after a hard battle
@whitelichmage7004 how about superman one million. The strongest version of superman. Nobody can defeat that superman. He's godlike.
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I'm going with juggernaut.
Isn't Doomsday way more powerful?
Same
Juggernaut wins
Absolutely correct.
Doomsday bodies
"No One can't beat the juggernaut or Doomsday!"
Onslaught: "Hold my Tea!"
Trion Juggernaut, which is Juggernaut with 100% of Cyttorak's power at his command, was ripping through space time with a swing of his fist and smashing apart barriers that separate entire dimensions from one another as well as shattering reality.
He's tanked, not even at full power, full power hits from Thor who can turn planets into pebbles with them. And it didn't even phase him.
You seriously lowballed Juggernaut here. Doomsday is able to adapt to ordinary physical damage and regenerate stronger after being defeated. If full power Trion Juggernaut hit Doomsday, then his reality, space and time, and dimensional destroying strikes would permanently remove Doomsday from the universe.
This isn't omega beams that send you back in time crap. His punches fracture all of reality at max power and he is completely invulnerable and unphased by even the strongest Marvel characters brutality. World War Hulk isn't stronger. Not even Rune King Thor is stronger. Nor is One Below All empowered Entropy Hulk.
Once you start shattering reality with a punch, the power scale becomes multiversal and Doomsday is barely a galaxy level threat.
Joggernaut was nerfed. He is not a mutant, but a guy possessed by a demon with magic by an energy stone. He was really unstoppable before, they nerfed him for the plot.
Cytorak > than Kryptonian science. Fully uncorked Juggernaut consumes universes. It's not even close because Juggs is OP and magic based.
Yeah thats my thought as well. One of the biggest things with doomsday is that he doesnt get tired. Thats not gonna be an issue for Juggernaut. As the avatar of destruction just the collateral from their fight would make Cytorak so happy he would boost Juggs to new levels
ignorant doomsday are not be create by kryptonian, and for information he can adapt to magic the only chance to survive against doomsday is knock out and flee before he awake more powerfull than the cause of his death, he has already scared powerfull cosmic being in DC and he was not in his prime
@@aldeur I know theyge retconned him multiple times but his original version was that he was a Kryptonian invention.They used that to inspire the version in the most recent superman movies.
And not many people know that fact
Doomsday>juggernaut and it was never close
Here is the reason the video is not entirely accurate: At 8:41, hulk did stop juggernaut. This was incredible hulk issue 457 when the hulk became one of the horsemen of apocalypse. At 8:43, the only reason juggernaut beats the hulk is because it was professor hulk who couldn't get stronger the angrier he gets. More importantly, Juggernaut disguised himself as a civilian so professor Hulk held back because he didn't know it was Juggernaut. He taught it was a regular guy. Juggernaut kept using gorilla tactics. He would punch the hulk then run away. More info in the replies below
Wow I didn't know all of that. Thanks for sharing!
At the same time, he forgot to mention Juggernaut's almost instantaneous healing factor (X force issue 4) . And the fact that he is listed as "Totally indestructible" in his durability rating in marvel universe hand book even without the shield .
It's guerrilla tactics. 😀
remember when gladiator threw juggernaut like a small rock, and gladiator is a walmart superman.
Jubilee: I didn't think anybody could do that to juggernaut!
Gambit: nobody from earth
He do it to doomsday 2 datz the champ
That was the cartoon. In comics, Gladiator didn't do so well vs the Hulk, who rivals the Juggernaut.
Gladiator power is linked to his confidence . he was very confident that day.
But I’m the juggernaut biiiiiiisshhhh 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Crossovers just don’t work because then you start pulling in that Tryon version of juggernaut that surpasses beyonder and cosmic cube and things like that.
Stop it😂 He can't do anything to The Beyonder. The Beyonder is either 2 or 3 in Marvel. The Trion version is meaningless garbage only appeared like 8 times, back in the 60s and early 70s. We weren't even born yet!!!
“I have a cousin that became a “Crack-Head”.
Is that a super power?
Didnt doomsday writers say that doomsday could not be killed the same way twice? Juggy wins once..but what about the next time?
No. He can be killed the same way, over, and over, and over, and over, and over. He just becomes resistant.
But with a character like Hulk, whose ceiling is literally destroying the very fabric of all existence, matter, spacetime, consciousness, life, energy, of the entire multiverse with his bare hands, how ever resistant Doomsday may be against getting beaten to death, Hulk will still be able to beat him to death.
Even if Hulk beat Doomday to death a billion times, with each revival, Doomsday becoming a billion times more resistant to them Hulk hands, Hulk would continue beating Doomsday to death another Billion times.
Hulk’s body was made by a being that is only equal to The Presence in DC, to be the physical means of the destruction of everything.
Doomsday was made by a High Evolutionary rip-off.
@@JoannaJedrzejczyksForeheadthe glazing on hulk is insane bro had to write a whole essay
He can not die the same way twice. You are correct
@JoannaJedrzejczyksForehead dude you couldn't be more wrong. Hulk gets destroyed by Doomsday, and definitely Superman
@@TheHorseman351 false. Hulk is literally unkillable, and his body is the physical means by which the entire Marvel Multiverse gets destroyed.
removing the helmet doesn't remove Juggernaut's impenetrable field, that field is always active. The helmet is psionic protection because what he is vulnerable to is telepaths like his step brother.
There's only ONE, Juggernaut!
Completely agree, doomsday is just an absolute beast, destruction incarnate.
Jugg: “Your weapons can’t harm me!! Can’t you see how tight my suit is?!?
That just sounds like “I’ve got a wedgie and there’s nothing you can do about it” with extra steps
it's made outta COCKATOO FEATHERS!
Trion Juggs wins. Maybe even a properly written classic Juggernaut. Many writers seem to forget he has an impenetrable forcefield, for example. Of course Juggs is way weaker now, which is where that quote about Hulk being stronger came from.
That’s what I’ve been saying. The writers have made Juggernaut a jobber instead of what he originally was. Too many people got their hands on him.
@@jonashworth9757 Yup. The entire point of juggs was a enemy they could not just punch out, so what is captain punchy going to do to win. He should show up rarely as there are only so many variations of throwing him into the ocean you can do before it gets old.
I always tell people, Juggernaut is a hard counter to Doomsday. He literally has nothing to stop him.
Also Danco you’re wrong. The helmet has nothing to do with his abilities. It’s just that he’s not protected by psychic attacks so he wears the helmet for the exact same reason as Magneto. Fear of Charles
Has Doomsday evolved to resist magic effects yet? Because Juggernaut's tricks are demon magic. That's why he cannot be stopped. That's why he's so strong and so indestructible.
12:20 I also remember there being a crossover issue where Juggernaut punch his way across realities and ended up in Metropolis. I think the next issue showed Superman and Juggernaut fighting.
Its always a writer thing as Stan Lee said. Fact sheet im personally going with Juggz. Doomsday is strong but Juggz has so much more versatility and power. I mean if he wasnt a villain in the past and more loved, he would win more. Also being magic based, he would have a stronger fight against a standard Superman too.
full power cyttorak juggy demolishes doomsday
Yes but sadly doomsday would comeback alive evolved from whatever killed him and even if juggernaut could do it again, doomsday would eventually be immune and win. Doomsday is written to be death itself. Juggernaut would sadly lose after maybe a second or third conflict
But DD will evolve and counter anything Juggs throws at him. Jugs has a limit, DD doesn't
@@stevein.thats not true peak juggernaut has the backing of cosmic beings , doomsday dies for good when dying at the hands of cosmic beings so he does infact have a limit
@@aydenharvey579so U r saying cosmic superman could beat doomsday??
@@krishanramsammy4349 ofcourse he could
Doomsday is beating Juggernaut, hes beaten Kingdom Come Superman and beaten Darkseid who both would beat Juggernaut. It would be a badass fight id love to watch tho.
Darkseid has beaten gods and shouldn't even be able to harm Darkseid. If you wanna take inconsistent comics seriously, be my guest.
Juggernaut isn't unstoppable. Mjolnir drove him backward.
When this guy said Juggs could run through WBH, I cut it off and went to the comments. Wasn't any need to hear any more nonsense.
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Juggernaut doesn't need the helmet to make the force field to work. It just protects his mind from telepaths. Also, him beating Hulk isn't technically a feat of pure strength since he has hax in his arsenal. It's like this, Juggy is a Tank build, Thor is DPS, and Hulk is both. And, the book didn't just have infinite pages, it has the life story of whoever touches it.
you FORGET , that cytyrrak will support his avatar, and NO MAN MADE ANYTHING is more powerful then him.
Juggie to Doomsday "I'm gonna rip you in half now"
One Punch Man comes in and takes them both out with a single punch. 😮
I fuckin love Saitama, he'd basically beat about 99% of characters man. Dude literally fought God @@rayharvey1330
@@rayharvey1330crazy how this video isn't about saitama
Also he can't do that. Both are insanely durable
Juggernaut takes this for one reason and one reason only. Cyttorak won't accept anything less.
It depends on which version of the Juggernaut. Cyttorak has depowered him a few times like when he joins the X-Men because he's not violent enough for the god's liking. There have been versions of Juggernaut that have been totally ridiculous like this time he punch his way through time and space. Pretty crazy.
DC & MARVEL...Shake hands and make up. Bring us a Juggernaut vs Doomsday crossover!
Juggernaut is really powerfull even hulk struggling against him
As powerful as Juggs, Doomsday has caused fear in Darkseid himself. Doomsday also has better feats too, Juggernaut tends to job a lot and he has too many anti feats. Even at the peak of their strength I’ll still give it to Doomsday.
You can't beat Doomsday the same way-TWICE-that gives him a-HUGE-tactical advantage,plus he's much stronger than ole JUGGS.
That was a avatar darkseid
@user-be7tc2bd6e I agree with Doomsday's victory but he isn't stronger or tougher than Juggernaut...at best it's a wash.
Doomsday has more feats I mean ik pipo gone argue bt let's be real here he beat darkside a being who was able to beat superman n the justice league a being who conquered the planet in darkapocalyse even tho it's a clone u still got to give doomsday his flowers defeating even jxt one clone of darkside is no easy feat doomsday wins
U mean the same avatars that were able to conquer earth in darkapocalyse the same avatar that was able to beat superman on multiple occasions the same avatar that has universal power ryt yeah we kno
My moneys on Juggernaut anyday. Doomsday is steller true, but Juggernaut is highly underrated.
Nah .. juggernaut is always done wrong by writers. His literal attributes make him more powerful than the hulk. To me the hulk is a joke because you can only get so angry. Dont get me started on the hulks anger. If the writers didnt misrepresent juggs by having him be a punching bag rather than what his attributes have him as, i think he will beat doomsday.
Should have been Trion Juggernaut vs Doomsday.
even then, Doosmday one shots. No version of Juggersnot wins.
Nah dude Trion Juggernaut literally punches through reality. No way Doomsday beats him @@michaelgamble2848
@@michaelgamble2848 "One shots "You exaggerate.
@@michaelgamble2848 Trion Juggernaut is definitely winning
@@AC-94_da_Rap_Arsonist no hes not
If Juggernaut went to DC, did Doomsday go to Marvel?!?
Well actually yes kind of, there was a lot of collab what if's
Doomsday is a HEAVILY modified Kryptonian, so its probable he has Supermans weakness to magic..and Juggernaut isnt a mutant, hes a magically powered human, so means he has a slight edge.
That's where you are wrong. Was doomsday affected by kryptonite no.
@@SupremeMegaman11 he was never exposed to it that we know of. Though if he was, its likely it wouldnt effect him because of the modifications.
An unstoppable force meeting an immovable object.. I think they could just fight it out forever, unless Juggernaut loses his helmet.
So I'm not the most informed when it comes to the comic book variants, but I think it'd probabay be a stalemate.
Some points I've seen are that Juggernaut does not tire, need nutrition, and can survive in space. As well as I'm aware, Doomsday can too.
Both of them are absurdly powerful beings with their own ways around death, either with adaptive evolution and self reviving capabilities or utter invulnerability and that force field.
At the very least it's highly likely that Doomsday would just adapt to Juggernaut's strength unless Juggernaut could vaporize him in one go, leaving him with nothing to regenerate from.
As for dealing with Juggernaut's magical nature, Doomsday lives in a universe full of magical beings. Could he adapt a way to get around it? Maybe, but as far as I'm aware he hasn't yet adapted to magic.
So in the end, it'd probably just turn into a never ending slugfest between the two
Juggernaut cannot be hurt physically so no matter what Doomsday did it wouldn't matter, in theory Juggs would just outlast him and eventually beat him
Doomsday got this.
*_Shoulda been 8th Day Juggernaut VS Doomsday._*
Look if I'm picking for one person to have in my corner, either Juggernaut or Doomsday, I'm going with Juggernaut. If Juggernaut is fighting for his life, Cyttorak will just make him more powerful.
I don't always agree with you, but the shop talk hits the nostalgia for sure.
Juggernaut wins.
Keep wishing
We know. Juggernaut curb stomps wimpy doomsday.
Doomsday killed Superman, and even though Juggernaut is extremely strong, he ain't winning against Doomsday at the end of the day.
@@TymeJefferson Yeah he is. Doomsday can’t hurt Juggernaut kiddo, not to mention Juggernaut has unlimited strength, doomsday doesn’t.
@@SIoyvenheaven1T800m101 what? you dont know what constant adaptation power means in the beginning juggernaut could be more powerfull but in the end doomsday should be infinitly above cytorax himself
@@aldeur You don’t know what anything means. Juggernaut can’t be physically harmed by any means (only way doomsday can attack) and Juggernaut has unlimited strength which scales way above doomsday. It’s not close. Juggernaut stomps and Marvel is way too strong.
@@SIoyvenheaven1T800m101 doomsday can adapt to any kind of concept death magic time space etc
when you fight doomsday he copy all your ability with include magic and psychic power i said all
doomsday has scared cosmic being infinitly above him who knock him down and teleport him in another dimension before he copy all their power like nothing
doomsday is the cheat code
why do i feel like danco did this one to troll us about the doomsday vs hulk video lol. good match up dude
it's because the strongest Hulk is stronger than Doomsday and Hulk has beaten Juggernaut already.
In Superman: Doomed, Superman tore Doomsday in half with his bare hands.
That should count for something in these debates.
Power scaling for comics characters is so arbitrary and inconsistent, subject to the whims of the writers, that comparisons like this are virtually pointless without an established and rigorously adhered-to canon for them.
It was confirmed by Marvel that Hulk did in fact stop Juggs.
I think it was once, when he was empowered by Apocalypse as his Horsemen.
like once or something, juggs clapped hulk a few times and max powered jugg takes down the toughest versions of hulk as well
Juggernaut KO’ed the Hulk. And the hulk was only able to stop him because he was enhanced by apocalypse.
Juggernaut ko’d the Hulk one time when the Hulk had no idea he was fighting Jugs. And it was Prof Hulk
@@alexsookhoo9919lmao when? Jugs rarely ever beats hulk
Danny phantom vs invincible
Danny: "I'm going Ghost!!!"
Invincible: "Oh yeah? And I'm...."
-Title Page
@@UltimateSpider1385Danny: You’re
-Title Page- *blood splatter* ?
Mark: Haha Yeap. I’m
-Title Page- *more blood splatter* 😏😏
Unless Invincible drops Danny before he goes Ghost, I’d give this one to Danny.
Danny claps, faster, stronger, and way better hax
@@oxiclean8536we talking current animated mark or end of comic mark ?
Onslaught beat the crap out of Juggernaut and ripped the gem from him.
Who is also psionic in nature, one of Juggernaut's two weaknesses. Magic and psychics both by pass his force field and can harm him. This does nothing to help Doomsday win, as it just shows Doomsday lacks the means to harm Cain.
At first Doomsday didn't have much story, but as time went on his back story included this thing where he comes back stronger whenever he's killed, hence why he is so strong now where he's enduring thousands or millions of deaths. When Doomsday first showed up dozens of super heroes couldn't even stop him, not even Superman (who he was only able to put into a coma). When Juggernaut first shows up, the X-men find ways to take him out regularly.
Defeating Juggernaut wouldn’t actually be hard at all, once you understand how his powers function. He requires momentum to gain the force that keeps his acceleration. Inertia via his momentum from running requires a solid surface to run on. All you would need to do to stop him is remove the ground from under him, and that goes away. Tons of characters, both Marvel and DC, can do that, whether by lifting him up off the ground or other means. Marvel (and DC characters who get written into these cross universe battles) characters, you’re welcome.
Juggernaut with infinite strength and doomsday with immortality
Sounds like a great way to make Doomsday immune to infinite strength. Remember, he adapts to anything. He adapted to Darkseid's Omega Rays. Nothing Juggernaut has will faze Doomsday more than once.
@@richardkenan2891 except for juggernauts momentum bc once he starts going he can't be stopped
doomsday with immortality and constant adaption ability to any cause of death, no chance of jugger to win
@@richardkenan2891 Hunter Prey is only time Doomsday did that. Every other appearance he's been beaten to death just fine. A gang of kryptonians pounded him to death. None of them were even named characters, so yeah he can be smacked around just fine. Cain is immune to physical damage and Doomsday is too dumb to use battlefield removal to win. This basically is rigged for Cain to win the fight.
@@aldeur Doomsday can be beaten to death and has multiple times. Juggernaut is physically immune to damage. There's no viable way for Doomsday to win, as he's not smart enough use battlefield removal. He just keeps punching his opponents till they die, but it won't ever work. The entire point of Juggernaut is he's a villain you can't punch to death and you need outsmart or remove from the field as a threat. Doomdays lacks the tools or intelligence to win. Doomsday can come back, but it generally takes awhile while Cain never falls.
What about when Gladiator just lifted Juggernaut, spun him around and tossed him away?
Animated series overpowered fake superman
i think that was not juggy in motion, unstopable force doesnt mean nobody can lif you.
.... then Rogue handed Gladiator his ass in the same Phoenix Saga.... forget about that inconsistency? Rogue can't beat Juggs 😎
That is not Canon.
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I think the phrase it's not even close is a phrase used for the novelty of it that is completely inaccurate. If this fight is anything, it's a close fight.
But Juggernaut takes it.
The classic Juggernaut with the Gem is absolutely invulnerable with the exception of psychic attacks. Has armor as durable as him. Has limitless strength, and stamina, Longevity, Instant regeneration, extreme durability, density, virtually physically indestructible, Force Field Generation, and Unstoppable Momentum. And Juggernaut doesn't have to die to access his defensive and offensive ability, and he can't die as long as we're talking about the standard version with the gem.
Fight to the death, yes Doomsday will resurrect, but fight to the death Juggs takes it. Juggernaut is an absolute. Marvel isn't as consistent with their feats and they are ever contradicting. So I know history of feats and analysis of stats is always the go to for determining these match ups but when you have so many inconsistencies this renders that variable as a point of reference to conclude what can beat Juggernaut as a unreliable conclusion.
Technically the fight just goes on and on. But, if we go unto one dies 1st then Doomsday is going to die first. Juggernaut is nigh invulnerable, as strong as he wants to be, Indestructible armor, indestructible force field and Unstoppable momentum.
Marvel feats are so inconsistent they contradict each other, Like Hulk can stop Juggernaut, when the integrity of Juggs powerset shouldn't be compromised just to make Hulk look better.
Marvels writers don't strictly adhere to the very power concepts inherent to their characters so feats as a frame of reference is outta the bag for me.
may be you dont know what constant adaptation means in the beginning juggernaut could be more powerfull but in the end doomsday would be infinitly above cytorax himself
@@aldeur He would be dead before that happened. Plenty of people punched out Doomsday before.
How would Doomsday vs. Superman One Million Prime match up?
From what I know ,comics are drawn by different creators and the characters in some comics have different power levels, in some comics characters can destroy planets, and in other comics The same character can not even destroy a planet
can you please do a fight between Dr. Manhattan vs Rune King Thor please and thank you.
😂 dr stomps easily
Doomsday beat Superman before he accomplished most of those feats.
They need to power scale back to that, heck powerscale the universe to be like the 90s animated series.
Superman beat Doomsday too
@@Ahglock Powerscaling is lazy anyways. People rely on that too much, as basically if someone lives in a unvierse where a character is capable of soloing Godzilla....anyone in that universe can too by that logic. If you didn't actually do the feat yourself, or the context of the feat is removed, you invalidate your own argument. Doomsday has been beaten down by far less than Omega beams, so the notion Juggenraut doesn't cobbler him is laughable. Doomsday basically if you made a dumber villain hulk with spikes who kills people. If the Hulk can't punch out Juggernaut and he has limitless strength..why would a guy with Bonespikes do any better?
JAGGERNAUT!!!!! HANDS DOWN
Juggernaut's helmet protects him from telepathic attacks. It doesn't have anything to do with his powers.
Is protection from telepathic attacks not a power?
@@jakepullman4914 no it's like Magneto's helmet. Doesn't have anything to do with powers.
My biggest problem with these comparisons is they never take the loser at their most powerful. Trion Juggernaut is able to punch holes into other dimensions, that feat is something that Doomsday has never done in any iteration or even came close to.
A character who has to fight Superman vs a character who DOESN’T have to fight Superman. Let’s be real
Juggernaut wins , hands down .... If you don't know the material just shut up.
Doomsday cant even touch him.
Stalemate, but slight edge to Juggernaut... Because magic > science. Both are basically "unkillable" , but Doomsday's evolution comes from his defeats & deaths. So does that count as a loss if Doomsday dies; if only temporarily? Meanwhile, Juggernaut has never been killed in the comics (at least not in continuity). Juggernaut has no upper threshold of power. Cyttorak endowed him with more power to become Trion Juggernaut, and he was punching holes in reality. That was only Juggernaut's peak SO FAR. He arguably has unlimited power if Cyttorak wishes. And that would be more than enough to put down Doomsday, if only temporarily. At the end of the day, Juggernaut's mystical powers defy reality. Doomsday on the other hand is mostly bound by physics & the laws of the universe.
Doomsday is winning every single time he's unbeatable
@@LiquidusGaming Nonsense. Doomsday can be beaten to death and has multiple times. Juggernaut is physically immune to damage. There's no viable way for Doomsday to win, as he's not smart enough use battlefield removal. He just keeps punching his opponents till they die, but it won't ever work. The entire point of Juggernaut is he's a villain you can't punch to death and you need outsmart or remove from the field as a threat. Doomdays lacks the tools or intelligence to win.
Problem is they needed juggernaut throughout the years because they realized they made him entirely too strong. The reason they brought in Thor was to fight and compete against the hulk. Two of the strongest characters in marvel. Then they introduce juggernaut who laughs at them. Because his power comes from a deity and not a mutant or something like that. Peak juggernaut before the nerfing to make him beatable is THE unstoppable force.
First needed should be nerfed. Stupid auto correct.
Isn't Thor himself a deity?
I am not a comic book nerd. I want to be but I am not. I know where I am outclassed, but even I know its Jugs. He has the helmet to protect his ONLY weakness, mind powers.
Sliver Surfer giggles in space
The panel that shows juggernaut agreeing hulk was stronger isn't accurate because at that point he had a fraction of the power of cytorak and wasn't as strong as he normally was and i don't agree juggernaut is overrated if anything he's underrated he's just become a jobber nowadays but he was a demon back in the days.
Exactly
Truth. If memory serves, Cytorak was not interested in the fight and gave him a fraction of his powers to keep him alive.
His first few years were awesome.
juggernaut could beat superman since his entire power is magic
If the og juggernaut fought doomsday, THAT WOULD BE A LEGENDARY BATTLE
Jug wears a helmet to bloc professor x from getting into his head not to activate his force field
Wrong. It's a very close fight...just not one where Juggernaut wins.
Juggernaut eventually KO’s Doomsday.
Eventually? More like one shots him, Doomsday isn't getting g beat by anyone in Marvel.
@@michaelgamble2848 ignorant fanboy
Nah doomsday adapts nd punishes him
@@Painisforever0Adapts after he dies
@@DarkCloudNChe adapts during battle hence the reactive adaptation power. He doesnt need to die to adapt
Doomsday wins every time.
The only one to stop Doomsday was Superman but it cost him his life.
Nonsense. Doomsday been beaten down by far less than Superman. Steel exploded him to ashes. A gang of Kryptonians pounded him down. His new car smell wore off after Hunter Prey and he's been taken down. There was no where to go but down for Doomy as he started off with Death of Superman.
Doomsday can be beaten to death and has multiple times. Juggernaut is physically immune to damage. There's no viable way for Doomsday to win, as he's not smart enough use battlefield removal. He just keeps punching his opponents till they die, but it won't ever work. The entire point of Juggernaut is he's a villain you can't punch to death and you need outsmart or remove from the field as a threat. Doomdays lacks the tools or intelligence to win.
@@LastjusticeJuggernaut has lost to the X-men on numerous occasions and hulks son Doomsday has beaten darkseid he blitzes
@@Painisforever0 You know what the Xmen and Hulk have that Doomsday doesn't? Intelligence and Psychic powers. You seem to be missing that context to why both can beat the juggernaut. The Juggernaut at 100% of his power with Cyttorak is 100% immune to physical damage. Punching Juggernaut does NOTHING. What part of that do you not get? Doomsday been beaten to death plenty of times. There's no reason to assume juggernaut can't do the same when Superman has literally torn this worthless MF-er in half.
@@LastjusticeSuperman would dog the shit out of juggernaut that immune to damage shit only work on weak characters Thor with his bare hands beat the shit outta juggernaut Doomsday would do him even worse it takes the whole justice league to get bullied by him to see his power
@@Painisforever0 No, you are talking out of your ass. Thor tossed the Midguard Serpent which weights as much as the planet Earth off the earth while it was coiled around the planet. In Justice league Cross over Thor and Superman beat the hell out of each other. Superman wins, but easily gets flattened afterwards as he has nothing in the tank after the fight. So this notion Thor isn't on par with Superman is utter nonsense. Thor and Hulk both have never harmed the Juggernaut when he was at his full power. Even DC agrees the Hulk is stronger than Superman.
Juggernaut is literally immune to physical damage, is immortal, never needs eat sleep or breath when he has the full power form Cyttorak. Only Psionics or Magic harm him, which Doomsday is neither. (And Doomy is entirely too dumb to battlefield removal for the win.) Juggernaut has regenerated from being blasted to a skeleton by spells then instantly back too full power.if something does manage to damage him. His force field warded off the Godblast from thor which sent Galactus running, whom would demolish Superman.
Doomsday been beaten to a pulp by random Kryptonians. Just a gang of them smashed his sorry butt. He gets beaten to death regularly. Juggernaut has never died, even during his depowered phases. Doomsday has died repeatedly. These are facts and you can dog walk your out of here so you can stop embaressing yourself. You don't have anything to back up your bullcrap.
And he SLAPPED his Hands together, ending TEN UNIVERSES, while Being the Cause of Two Dozen More Big Bangs!
The Feats of Strength and Invincibility just NEVER ends with the people that write the characters in the Comics.
What they FAIL to realize, and one of the BIG reasons Marvel tends to sell better over all, is that the Avid Fans and Readers WANT Imperfection in their HEROES.
Marvel has been power scaling like Dc recently. Hulk has punches that shake the infinite multiverse, apparently the word infinite has lost meaning in the marvel universe just like it has in DC. Though Juggs was initially infinitely durable. He was a plot device villain to give the hero a enemy they couldn't just punch their way to victory on, they actually needed a plan..
One thing that wasnt mentioned was the Juggernaut's power is give to him by a God, And at anytime can increase or decrease how powerful Juggernaut is.
I'm not sure Juggernaut has ever gotten 100% use of his full use his powers.
The real Question with DD isn't really "How did the Fight Go" is more "HOW DOES the 2nd FIGHT GO!?" When DD Evolves.
Thank you! People here seem to have forgotten the whole point of DD is to evolve to overcome anything put in his way. Juggernaut will probably win a few fights but DD will take the ultimate win
Two knowledgeable fans that know comic characters to a "T."
@@Saber170292 The whole evolving thing is overstated as he got nerfed post Hunter Prey(where he tanked Omega beams and basically had to be banished to the end of time to be removed as a threat). His new car smell wore off, and he became much easier to drop after that. Superman and other people have punched him to death with any real issue multiple times.
Doomsday can be beaten to death and has multiple times. Juggernaut is physically immune to damage. There's no viable way for Doomsday to win, as he's not smart enough use battlefield removal. He just keeps punching his opponents till they die, but it won't ever work. The entire point of Juggernaut is he's a villain you can't punch to death and you need outsmart or remove from the field as a threat. Doomdays lacks the tools or intelligence to win. Even if he returns, it basically never goes his way since he still is limited to same set of attacked that still don't work on Cain. Cain immortality protects him against everything Doomsday does, and I think Doomsday would eventually become too afraid of Cain to continue this contest.
Doomsday
Doomsday is gonna beat his ass, the juggernaut will be stopped
Doomsday can be beaten to death and has multiple times. Juggernaut is physically immune to damage. There's no viable way for Doomsday to win, as he's not smart enough use battlefield removal. He just keeps punching his opponents till they die, but it won't ever work. The entire point of Juggernaut is he's a villain you can't punch to death and you need outsmart or remove from the field as a threat. Doomdays lacks the tools or intelligence to win. This fight is basically rigged for Juggernaut to win.
I remember in the X-men animated series...
Juggernaught got tossed by the first cosmic (?) character that showed up... just chucked him...
And that was the image I had left in my head lol😂
I Totally agree, DOOMSDAY for the win 🏆
Juggernaut is the most underrated character in marvel. They underestimate his true power. He’s definitely top 5 strongest