I agree. She still has a line that I think is one of my favorites in cinema, "Sometimes I like to dance around in my underwear. Doesn't make me Madonna, never will".
Thelma Ritter and Mary Wickes - the two "every woman" character actresses who could put any of us right into a scene - and then steal it from a Bette Davis or Lionel Barrymore or James Stewart.
@@leeharrison8222 I need to see that, again. First Addams Family wasn't bad. I don't remember it well, though. A young Christina Rici as Wednesday: "Prepare to meet your maker." She said that in the first one, right?! Anyways, Joan Cusack was suitably chilling in the conspiracy, domestic terrorist movie Arlington Road, again, showing her range.
Thanks so much for recognizing Thelma Ritter in "Rear Window." My wife and I thought she deserved it as well! 🙏🏻🙏🏻 Our second TR face was "Miracle on 34th St".
As much as I love Holly Hunter, but I would have taken her nomination for The Firm out, and I would have put in Joan Cusack for Adam's Family Values. It's amazing how she managed to steal the film from its already stellar cast. Cusack is just brilliant and sadly underrated.
I loved Holly Hunter in The Firm but, yes, I would've put Joan Cusack in over her for Addams Family Values. She was also amazing in Men Don't Leave and should've been nominated for that as well.
God, I need a weekly Oscars history / commentary podcast hosted by Louis. Can't second Louis' Secrets & Lies recommendation enough as well - everyone go watch it, it's so brilliant.
Wizard of Oz is my all-time favorite film and I adore Margaret Hamilton, but Hattie McDaniel as Mammy in Gone With the Wind richly deserved her historic best supporting actress Oscar that year, 1939.
@@connorrorison4247 where were you in my life the year when this movie came out and I saw it 24 times in the movie theater and I would say those exact words?
Props to Joan Cusack for turning a theoretical liability -- her speech defect -- into a strength. I could say the same about Carol Kane, too. (You can add James Stewart of Bob Newhart to that list.) (I'm a stutterer, so I speak from experience.)
Louis, you are the sharp-tongued sister I didn't know I needed. Great video. Highlights: Joan Cusack being right in line with Marissa Tomei and Diane Wiest (never would have thought of this but true!). Joan Cusack looking like a Kabuki warlord! Geraldine Chaplin invented Parker Posey. I'm dying! And looking forward to more. Now I'm going to go check out the Judy Maxwell store.
Madeline Kahn in everything she did, but specifically Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstein, High Anxiety and Clue. If they ever give posthumous lifetime achievement awards, she should be the first. Also: a cosplay event called MadelineCon.
@@ascent8487 Agreed! She so deserved that first, mostly unexpected, Oscar nomination. She is up there as a beautiful comedic actress with Carole Lombard, Myrna Loy, Roz Russel.
Just saw The Landlord within the last couple years. It is surprisingly good and the inter rational relevancy of the movie is dare i say: Brilliantly done. Beau Bridges plays the young, 20 something spoiled rich boy Urbane, property owner Landlord ... and the movie is sooo not a cliche. For those not in the know check it out.
Louis, I just love listening to you enthusiastically talk about movies!❤ And you ALWAYS introduce me to movies I’ve never heard of and remind me of movies I want to revisit.
Love you mentioned Thelma Ritter in this video. I love her whenever she turns up in a movie. To me she should have won the best supporting actress Oscar for Pickup on South Street. Such a brilliant performance by her in that film. I love when acting is so good you "feel it" in your gut. I really felt for her character in that film.
Two suggestions: 1. Madeline Kahn in basically everything. I don't feel like I need to justify this. 2. Veronica Cartwright in 1978 Invasion of the Body Snatchers and Alien. I adore VC. She is one of the best criers of all time. She gets into the ugly cry territory that most actors stray from. She has fantastic lines in IOTBS, just some really great conspiracy theory type lines. She then comes off as the most sane in Alien when she is on the verge of breaking down. I'd need to rewatch The Birds and The Children's Hour to see if either were worthy. She was good in The Birds, but I don't know if there was enough there. I'd also need to rewatch The Witches of Eastwick. She is great in The Right Stuff, but that is a stacked cast and I would put Mary Jo Deschanel or Pamala Reed as the likelier to have been nominated.
The Children's Hour was ahead of its time, both book and film. We were students...and did not understand what was going on. Only that it was unfair, somehow. Years later...the light dawned, and I was infuriated by the destruction caused by small , envious minds.
I LOVE how righteously indignant Louis gets! Please keep doing these videos- talk fast, get mad, educate us - you are a blast to watch. I'm bingeing all of your Oscar Snub educational series right now. Hard to keep up with the lists of movies you refer to because not all of them are Oscar nominees we can easily reference by year.
Margaret Hamilton certainly deserved an Oscar nom, but she never got one for The Wizard of Oz. I believe there were a few "For your consideration..." ads, but she didn't make the list.
I actually did not mean to say that -- I obviously know the '39 nominees by heart! Geraldine Fitzgerald would probably be my choice to be switched out; Edna May Oliver is enjoyably stubborn in Drums Along the Mohawk, which is a solid epic
@@CmonVogue I figured it was a slip of the tongue, but I had to go remind myself of the nominees for that year because Hamilton was obviously so deserving for the indelibility of her performance, although, of course, that wasn't obvious to anyone yet, plus, I can't imagine 1930s Hollywood ever believing that any kind of witch role would deserve an Oscar (unless, of course, that witch was played by Bette).
This video has given me life. Thank you. You are so correct about Thelma Ritter. I love her in "Rear Window" which I got to see on the big screen a few years ago. She, Edna May Oliver and Marjorie Main are three of my all-time favorite character actresses.
Dutifully following your instructions to comment about Secrets & Lies; I just watched this film for the first time within the last year and was blown away. Absolutely beautiful and I agree that more people should be talking about it!
Just found your channel. First off, I like your videos a lot. Second, I thank you so much for not using AI for narration. Your comments are fantastic, thoughtful, cogent, and interesting (and spot-on!!). Please keep things as good as they are, and I'll be a (new) subscriber for life!!!
@@garymeise673Saw it in the theater as well! I'm not even sure I've seen it since then but their initial meetup scene still lives in my brain rent free.
Love retro Louis diving into Oscar lore! Grahame was in the biggest hit of the year ("The Greatest Show on Earth"), was a fantastic femme fatale in "Sudden Fear" and worked opposite Robert Mitchum and Jane Russell in "Macao" the same year as "The Bad and the Beautiful"- I think getting the nod, then win for "Sudden Fear" would have aged a lot better for Grahame, but "Bad" was the big year-end release that got a lot of Oscar buzz, going on to win five Academy Awards. Also note: I wish it was the opposite, but Hamilton was not nominated for "Oz." Also, 1953 is showing for 1954 when discussing the Thelma Ritter in "Rear Window" race. And thanks for the shout out to Carolyn Jones in "The Bachelor Party"- one of the greatest performances in a tiny role ever.
Great video and list - just discovered your channel. One correction...I rewatched the last section and I think you said the last group of people DID get nominated, but didn't win...Unfortunately Margaret Hamilton was not nominated for The Wizard of Oz, or tragically for any of her films.
I absolutely love your commentary and agree with much of what you say. The Kabuki Warlord line almost made me implode. You're praise of Joan Cusack reminded me of her very small but unforgettable non-speaking (I believe if I remember correctly) role in Sixteen Candles. Both she and her brother John had small roles in that classic John Hughes film. Oh, I'm now a subscriber to your channel so y'all can look forward to frequent annoying posts. Enjoy your day everyone
So spot on regarding Teresa Wright in “Shadow of A Doubt”! This was the first time I’ve seen you! I’m a huge Thelma Ritter fan as well (she should have won for “Pillow Talk”). You are pure Awesomeness!
First of all, a great big YES in support of Thelma Ritter! Secondly, thank you for giving me a list of more movies I need to watch. And thirdly, accept my expression of delight for the fact that you don't go negative -- you have something good to say about everyone!
I haven't watched many of your videos, but I strongly agreed with you about The English Patient and Ordinary People, two of my all-time favorite films, both masterpieces.
Great list! Appreciate the reasoning and was impressed by your knowledge of movies. I'll definitely check out some of those films. P.S. I've often felt the same way about best picture winners, how 'important' films are often chosen over films whose craftsmanship are overshadowed by their mass appeal (or perception, as you mentioned about Hitchcock).
Oh man, YES...YES YES YES...especially Joan Cusack! AFV is my most favorite movie...I cannot ever get enough of it. And Dame Edith and Thelma are just smashing in anything they did. Love them!
OMG!!! I've never laughed harder while at the same time nodding and snapping my fingers and exclaiming, "that's right!" or "what? really?". Had so much fun watching this segment and immediately subscribed. Looking forward to laughing and learning more. Thanks for the good work!!
Judy Parfitt in ‘Dolores Claiborne’ Karen Black in ‘Come back to the five and dime, Jimmy Dean…’ Shelly Duvall in ‘Three Women’ Veronica Cartwright in The Witches of Eastwick.’
First time to the channel, and I found the subject and discussion fascinating and provocative. Spot on on most all points, some others omitted for snub talk would have been drinking buddies Burton and O'Toole with 15 competitive Oscar nods between them, with ZERO win. And one glaring pain in the back of my teeth for 25 years now from 70th Oscar Ceremony...Helen Hunt's abysmal Best Actress honor for "As Good As It Gets"...horrible. I look forward to learning more on your channel. Cheers
Wow! I love listening to u! What a great speaker and what vast KNOWLEDGE!! The biggest shoulda coulda winner for best supporting actress that wasn't nominated is Michelle Pfeiffer in Batman Returns.
Am I crying for joy at this special as much as the Olympics? Yes. Yes I am! Also... Louis... I agree that no "nepo babies" should be left out of movies or television or music for "who they are"... But, I truly MISS actors becoming known for "who they AREN'T"... Are they silent or are they SILENCED? xo
Thank you. The Oscars need a Best Ensemble award, like the SAGs. 1. Nashville predated the award by two decades. 2. Maybe the award would have prevented two of the most Best Film Oscar misfires of all time. a) Shakespeare in Love and Crash won the SAG Best Ensemble and Oscar Best Film. b) If Oscar had Best Ensemble, Oscar voters would have felt more free to vote for Saving Private Ryan and Brokeback Mountain as Best Film. Both are more deserving than Shakespeare and Crash, the winners in their respectful years. 3. Maybe it would prevent acting award misfires, especially supporting. a) A few years, a film took three of the five slots. Like the Godfather and Best Supporting Actor. b) Prevent award fraud. An unworthy Lead Nominee would instead be nominated for Ensemble and Supporting.
Thelma Ritter is the only actress that gave life to the otherwise dull performances in "Misfits". She was so far ahead of her time in the way she acted, it´s simply stunning.
First of all, thank you for this. My viewing of this video was my introduction to you and your work and I'm looking forward to checking more of it out. I spent years insisting that Margaret Hamilton was robbed for her Wicked Witch performance. But then something interesting happened: I saw Gone With the Wind on the big screen. We always think "Oh, I need to see that on the big screen" when talking about epic movies, but it's usually the small scenes - not the big ones - that benefit most from the movie theatre setting. What I saw in Hattie McDaniel's eyes in the theatre, that I had never noticed on TV, really led me to reconsider that year's contest. So yeah, I don't have much of an argument for those who would vote for Hamilton, but I don't think it's quite as clear-cut as I used to. By the way, Rear Window and On the Waterfront were in 1954, not 1953 as shown on the video. Small detail but I figured it was worth noting. Thanks again. I'll definitely be back.
Another Oscar snub: Keke Palmer in Nope (2022.) It’s such a great performance, so underrated. I know it’s not a great film but she gave one the year’s best performances. Certainly deserved the nomination and win. Only rivals Stephanie Hsu and certainly better than the year’s winner, JLC. Joan Cusack 100%!!! She’s mesmerizing in Addams Family Values. She makes it one of my favorite films. Yes, Secrets & Lies is a dynamic film with brilliant performances. I still think MJB should have won the Oscar that year.
One major snub was in 1977, Lynne Frederick for Voyage of the Damned. Lee Grant (who played Lynne’s mother in the film) got the nomination instead. However, Beatrice Straight won that year for The Network. Lynne wasn’t nominated because she wasn’t as known as Lee Grant. Grant also confirmed in her book that the only reason she got nominated was because she shaved her head on screen in the film. As good as Lee Grants performance was, it has no substance without Lynne’s performance. Highly recommend you see Voyage if you haven’t seen it already. Lynne Frederick was magnificent in the film!!!
No disagreement about Dame Edith Evans - her performance is the one on which everyone else bases their interpretation. I appreciate you shining a light on her Lady Bracknell performance.
Angela Lansbury was in one of my favorite movies "The World of Henry Orient" where she played an adulterous bee-otch ice queen and I loved her in "Blue Hawaii" as Elvis' mother with a southern accent, even though she was only ten years older than him. It's amazing that she never won an Emmy award even though she was nominated 18 times! She became a Disney Legend in 1995 and won five Tony awards, as well as some other ones, so that says something.
I love that you mention “The World of Henry Orient” which is an all time favorite film for me. The two girls were terrific and Angela was dead on as the unfaithful wife that the girls discover while following around their favorite crush, Henry Orient. Angela Lansbury was always a great actress. The Emmys had it way wrong for never giving her an Emmy.
You are so right about 'The Landlord'. Criminally underseen. And Lee Grant fought for that role as the Mother, though she was years too young, because she knew she could nail the character.
the HANDBAG....was both my Mum and Dad's all time favourite line 🥰.....we ALL said .." A HAAAAANDDD BAAAAAAAAAAGGG?!" whenever my Mum would say "wheres my handbag"? or can you find my Handbag ..etc 🤣
Glad to see love for Addams Family Values. It's a slam-dunk comedy and just such a confidently-crafted film that I'm in awe of it. Every single person was perfectly cast and brought their A-game to their roles. The movie got a perfectly deserved Oscar nomination for best Art/Set Direction, and I am 100% on board with that, it visually tells its story succinctly. Sorry, I can't help but rant about AFV, it's fantastic, and Joan Cusack was indeed beyond excellent in it.
I learned nothing from you .....but I found a kindred soul regarding movies . I became obsessed with the movie NASHVILLE when it was first released. I was 6 and my dad work drive passed the Lyric theater just so I could see the one sheet poster. To this day it's still my favorite film. I love movies so much . Woody Allen ,Robert Altman ,David Lynch and Eric Rohmer ❤
Love this take. Angela Lansbury was often cast as much older. She was born in 1925 and plays the mother of Laurence Harvey, born in 1928. I would like to throw Toni Collette into this conversation. Her 5 minute scene in The Hours is, to me, the standout under-the-radar performance for 2002. Another is Billie Whitelaw in The Omen. Such a menacing figure, played beautifully.
Joan Cusack in Addams Family Values was such a masterclass in how to be a villian who has comedic, kooky and likable qualities that steals every scene she is in with a performance so sharp and purposeful it was just incredible to see, one of the best and quotable performances of all time. She was that good!!!
When I saw Addams Family Values in the theatre, I nearly fell out of my seat laughing. It remains my favorite comedy to this day. I must have seen it 2 dozen times by now.
Yes...Joan Cusack for "Debbie" in the Addams Family Values and Margaret Hamilton as "The Wicked Witch of the West" in The Wizard of Oz definitely deserved nominations and wins in the best supporting actress Oscar category. 2 of my favorite cinematic villains. 😁
Some pretty good choices, especially Joan Cusack. Here are some of mine, I know it's a long list, but my list was longer and I had to whittle it down to this. And I know, the majority is 80s and 90s, but hey, I'm an 80s and 90s kid 1947 Kathleen Byron - Black Narcissus 1954 Mercedes McCambridge - Johnny Guitar 1955 Angela Lansbury - The Court Jester 1983 Melinda Dillon - A Christmas Story 1985 Any of the female cast from Clue 1989 Laura San Giacomo - sex, lies, and videotape 1990 Glenn Close - Reversal of Fortune 1991 Joanna Cassidy - Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead 1995 Jennifer Elise Cox - The Brady Bunch Movie 1996 Drew Barrymore - Scream 1996 Pam Ferris - Matilda 1999 Sigourney Weaver - Galaxy Quest 2000 Eartha Kitt - The Emperor's New Groove 2005 Glenn Close - The Chumscrubber 2011 Shirley MacLaine - Bernie 2014 Suzanne Clement - Mommy 2017 Lois Smith - Marjorie Prime
Joan Cusack's eye shadow was another character in Working Girl.
I agree. She still has a line that I think is one of my favorites in cinema, "Sometimes I like to dance around in my underwear. Doesn't make me Madonna, never will".
indeed it was 😅
She deserved the Oscar.😊
How about that hair?
Finally someone who speaks on the supremacy of Thelma Ritter
Indeed!
Thelma Ritter and Mary Wickes - the two "every woman" character actresses who could put any of us right into a scene - and then steal it from a Bette Davis or Lionel Barrymore or James Stewart.
Thelma was robbed!
YES
Yes Thelma Ritter in Rear Window. "What's General Motors got to be nervous about, over production I'd say"
Joan Cussack’s performance in Adams Family Values was a tour de force
I love her in that movie. I watch it every year around Halloween and the humor never gets old for me. She's a great actress with range.
@@leeharrison8222 I need to see that, again. First Addams Family wasn't bad. I don't remember it well, though. A young Christina Rici as Wednesday: "Prepare to meet your maker." She said that in the first one, right?!
Anyways, Joan Cusack was suitably chilling in the conspiracy, domestic terrorist movie Arlington Road, again, showing her range.
She was awesome AF in Shameless US version.
@ won an Emmy for that
Thanks so much for recognizing Thelma Ritter in "Rear Window." My wife and I thought she deserved it as well! 🙏🏻🙏🏻 Our second TR face was "Miracle on 34th St".
I could watch Louis talk about the Oscar’s for 1 million hours.
Over 57 years?!
same. I also wish he would guest on This Had Oscar Buzz. Curious to know what movie he’d pick to talk about
Im in love!
OK, I know this will be perceived as inappropriate, but I’d like to watch him doing anything shirtless. Or in a Speedo. OK, i said it.
@@jamiebranco4092
Right there with you.
As much as I love Holly Hunter, but I would have taken her nomination for The Firm out, and I would have put in Joan Cusack for Adam's Family Values. It's amazing how she managed to steal the film from its already stellar cast. Cusack is just brilliant and sadly underrated.
I think casting directors see her as niche.
I loved Holly Hunter in The Firm but, yes, I would've put Joan Cusack in over her for Addams Family Values. She was also amazing in Men Don't Leave and should've been nominated for that as well.
"A Kabuki Warlord who sometimes goes into the office" OMG! Louis you are too funny!
Came here to post the same quote. I literally LOLed! 🤣🤣🤣
I nearly spat out my coffee at that and then just let it dribble down my chin as I shrugged and thought... "Yeah, that's about accurate."
Ah, the 80s...
Addam's Family Values is a legendary comedy, and Joan Cusack was incredible along with the rest of the cast.
God, I need a weekly Oscars history / commentary podcast hosted by Louis.
Can't second Louis' Secrets & Lies recommendation enough as well - everyone go watch it, it's so brilliant.
Also chiming in re Secrets and Lies. Brenda Blethyn and Timothy Spall! It's stunning.
Same!!
Yes!
That film makes me wither to this day just thinking about it
MARGARET HAMILTON: "THE WIZARD OF OZ: YES!!! A performance for the ages!!!!
Except she wasn't nominated.
@@garymacmillan6401 Yes, she was not nominated, and is there a more iconic, chilling, unforgettable performance in the history of film?
@@johnnolan5579 Totally agree. The whole film is a masterpiece.
Wizard of Oz is my all-time favorite film and I adore Margaret Hamilton, but Hattie McDaniel as Mammy in Gone With the Wind richly deserved her historic best supporting actress Oscar that year, 1939.
@@johnnolan5579 No. Oh, that was a rhetorical question. Sorry.
Audiences are routinely “um….wrong!” Savage!😂😂
The biggest snub in my opinion is Michelle Pfeiffer for Batman returns
There should be an awards show for the really good campy movies and Batman Returns should have been in it.
Honestly, one could argue she’s a lead in that film considering she has more screen time than Micheal Keaton/Batman
@@connorrorison4247 where were you in my life the year when this movie came out and I saw it 24 times in the movie theater and I would say those exact words?
Meow.
Amen!!! Best female villain performance since The Wicked Witch of the West, still my fave Batman movie of all time!! Robbed of an Oscar!!
Thank you for talking about older films! I feel like so many Oscar-related channels act like movies didn’t exist before 1970!
Joan Cusack in In & Out. She was wonderful
And how about Joan Cusack in the totally unknown and underrated "Men Don't Leave?"
I saw Men Don’t Leave on a flight. Meh. As for Cusack, I love her but in that film she was kind of a reboot of Geena Davis in the Accidental Tourist.
Props to Joan Cusack for turning a theoretical liability -- her speech defect -- into a strength. I could say the same about Carol Kane, too. (You can add James Stewart of Bob Newhart to that list.) (I'm a stutterer, so I speak from experience.)
And also nominated so wouldn't apply here...
OMG! We died dead we laughed SO hard when she ‘melts’ down in the wedding dress! Had to rewind that scene I don’t remember how many times.
Louis, you are the sharp-tongued sister I didn't know I needed. Great video. Highlights: Joan Cusack being right in line with Marissa Tomei and Diane Wiest (never would have thought of this but true!). Joan Cusack looking like a Kabuki warlord!
Geraldine Chaplin invented Parker Posey. I'm dying! And looking forward to more. Now I'm going to go check out the Judy Maxwell store.
Yeah, that was another great line-comparison. Geraldine in Nashville and Parker side by side.😆 Forget about it🤣
Hahaha...loved the Susan Hayward intro! Love Secrets and Lies.
A Kabuki Warlord....Sir, You´ve made my day...🤣
I HOWLED
I’m 💀
Madeline Kahn in "What's Up, Doc?"
Madeline Kahn in everything she did, but specifically Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstein, High Anxiety and Clue. If they ever give posthumous lifetime achievement awards, she should be the first. Also: a cosplay event called MadelineCon.
Right there with you!
Madeline Kahn in almost everything she was in.
@@ascent8487
Agreed! She so deserved that first, mostly unexpected, Oscar nomination. She is up there as a beautiful comedic actress with Carole Lombard, Myrna Loy, Roz Russel.
Definitely. She should have won, hands down, genius comedic performance in a very underrated film.
You gave me a a complete catch'-up period of all the movies I never had time to watch to watch. Fascinating delivery...clear and precise. Well done.
“The Landlord” callout in this vid is everything to me. But, Ruth Negga not even being nominated still
keeps me up at night.
Just saw The Landlord within the last couple years. It is surprisingly good and the inter rational relevancy of the movie is dare i say: Brilliantly done. Beau Bridges plays the young, 20 something spoiled rich boy Urbane, property owner Landlord ... and the movie is sooo not a cliche. For those not in the know check it out.
Thank you so much for bringing attention to these magnificent overlooked performances!! Thelma Ritter is my all time favorite character actress.
Margaret Hamilton was NOT nominated for a supporting Oscar award for "Wizard of Oz." Hamilton never recieved a nomiation for any film.
Louis, I just love listening to you enthusiastically talk about movies!❤ And you ALWAYS introduce me to movies I’ve never heard of and remind me of movies I want to revisit.
Love you mentioned Thelma Ritter in this video. I love her whenever she turns up in a movie. To me she should have won the best supporting actress Oscar for Pickup on South Street. Such a brilliant performance by her in that film. I love when acting is so good you "feel it" in your gut. I really felt for her character in that film.
you are a delight.................. Loved it.
Two suggestions: 1. Madeline Kahn in basically everything. I don't feel like I need to justify this.
2. Veronica Cartwright in 1978 Invasion of the Body Snatchers and Alien. I adore VC. She is one of the best criers of all time. She gets into the ugly cry territory that most actors stray from. She has fantastic lines in IOTBS, just some really great conspiracy theory type lines. She then comes off as the most sane in Alien when she is on the verge of breaking down.
I'd need to rewatch The Birds and The Children's Hour to see if either were worthy. She was good in The Birds, but I don't know if there was enough there. I'd also need to rewatch The Witches of Eastwick. She is great in The Right Stuff, but that is a stacked cast and I would put Mary Jo Deschanel or Pamala Reed as the likelier to have been nominated.
The Children's Hour was ahead of its time, both book and film. We were students...and did not understand what was going on. Only that it was unfair, somehow. Years later...the light dawned, and I was infuriated by the destruction caused by small , envious minds.
Actually, Cartwright might have been the best performer in the movie.
I LOVE how righteously indignant Louis gets! Please keep doing these videos- talk fast, get mad, educate us - you are a blast to watch. I'm bingeing all of your Oscar Snub educational series right now. Hard to keep up with the lists of movies you refer to because not all of them are Oscar nominees we can easily reference by year.
MADELINE KAHN in What's Up Doc!
Damn! How did I miss your return to TH-cam!? I've been waiting for this content since Verbal Vogueing! SUBSCRIBED!
Margaret Hamilton certainly deserved an Oscar nom, but she never got one for The Wizard of Oz. I believe there were a few "For your consideration..." ads, but she didn't make the list.
I actually did not mean to say that -- I obviously know the '39 nominees by heart! Geraldine Fitzgerald would probably be my choice to be switched out; Edna May Oliver is enjoyably stubborn in Drums Along the Mohawk, which is a solid epic
@@CmonVogue I figured it was a slip of the tongue, but I had to go remind myself of the nominees for that year because Hamilton was obviously so deserving for the indelibility of her performance, although, of course, that wasn't obvious to anyone yet, plus, I can't imagine 1930s Hollywood ever believing that any kind of witch role would deserve an Oscar (unless, of course, that witch was played by Bette).
I'm going to try to fit "ha-a-and-ba-a-a-ag" into my every day conversation.
make it work, one way or another! lol
This video has given me life. Thank you. You are so correct about Thelma Ritter. I love her in "Rear Window" which I got to see on the big screen a few years ago. She, Edna May Oliver and Marjorie Main are three of my all-time favorite character actresses.
Lee Grant in The Landlord is SO UNSUNG, thank you!!! I'm never not thinking about her acting with icon Pearl Bailey
Loved THE LANDLORD. Very underseen.
Dutifully following your instructions to comment about Secrets & Lies; I just watched this film for the first time within the last year and was blown away. Absolutely beautiful and I agree that more people should be talking about it!
Just found your channel. First off, I like your videos a lot. Second, I thank you so much for not using AI for narration. Your comments are fantastic, thoughtful, cogent, and interesting (and spot-on!!). Please keep things as good as they are, and I'll be a (new) subscriber for life!!!
I loved this. Funny and informative! Great job.
a Marianne Jean Baptiste callout this early in the morning? I was not prepared.
One of my favorite movies of all time. And Brenda Blethyn is brilliant too!
Secrets and Lies was absolutely sublime. I will never forget watching this movie in the theater. Baptiste and Brenda B. simply A level
@@garymeise673Saw it in the theater as well! I'm not even sure I've seen it since then but their initial meetup scene still lives in my brain rent free.
Love retro Louis diving into Oscar lore! Grahame was in the biggest hit of the year ("The Greatest Show on Earth"), was a fantastic femme fatale in "Sudden Fear" and worked opposite Robert Mitchum and Jane Russell in "Macao" the same year as "The Bad and the Beautiful"- I think getting the nod, then win for "Sudden Fear" would have aged a lot better for Grahame, but "Bad" was the big year-end release that got a lot of Oscar buzz, going on to win five Academy Awards. Also note: I wish it was the opposite, but Hamilton was not nominated for "Oz." Also, 1953 is showing for 1954 when discussing the Thelma Ritter in "Rear Window" race. And thanks for the shout out to Carolyn Jones in "The Bachelor Party"- one of the greatest performances in a tiny role ever.
Great video and list - just discovered your channel. One correction...I rewatched the last section and I think you said the last group of people DID get nominated, but didn't win...Unfortunately Margaret Hamilton was not nominated for The Wizard of Oz, or tragically for any of her films.
Louis - discovered this by accident. YOU ARE A GEM!!! I agree with EVERY snub you've identified. Keep up the good work!
I love the way you love movies!!!!This has been fun and I learned some new films to see. Thank you.
I absolutely love your commentary and agree with much of what you say. The Kabuki Warlord line almost made me implode. You're praise of Joan Cusack reminded me of her very small but unforgettable non-speaking (I believe if I remember correctly) role in Sixteen Candles. Both she and her brother John had small roles in that classic John Hughes film. Oh, I'm now a subscriber to your channel so y'all can look forward to frequent annoying posts. Enjoy your day everyone
So spot on regarding Teresa Wright in “Shadow of A Doubt”! This was the first time I’ve seen you! I’m a huge Thelma Ritter fan as well (she should have won for “Pillow Talk”). You are pure Awesomeness!
Love that you champion Secrets & Lies!! Such a special & important movie.
First of all, a great big YES in support of Thelma Ritter! Secondly, thank you for giving me a list of more movies I need to watch. And thirdly, accept my expression of delight for the fact that you don't go negative -- you have something good to say about everyone!
I haven't watched many of your videos, but I strongly agreed with you about The English Patient and Ordinary People, two of my all-time favorite films, both masterpieces.
Beverly D’Angelo in “Coal Miner’s Daughter” is one of the worst snubs. She was fantastic in that movie.
This is the first of your vids I've ever seen. I think I love you.
Great list! Appreciate the reasoning and was impressed by your knowledge of movies. I'll definitely check out some of those films. P.S. I've often felt the same way about best picture winners, how 'important' films are often chosen over films whose craftsmanship are overshadowed by their mass appeal (or perception, as you mentioned about Hitchcock).
Oh man, YES...YES YES YES...especially Joan Cusack! AFV is my most favorite movie...I cannot ever get enough of it. And Dame Edith and Thelma are just smashing in anything they did. Love them!
You’re so passionate, love it!
OMG!!! I've never laughed harder while at the same time nodding and snapping my fingers and exclaiming, "that's right!" or "what? really?". Had so much fun watching this segment and immediately subscribed. Looking forward to laughing and learning more. Thanks for the good work!!
Ahhh Secrets and Lies! Such a good one! Thank you for calling attention to it. I was also a fan of Rosie Perez and Fearless.
Secrets and Lies - Just perfect in every way.
You are great at this.
Thank you. There has never been a better comedic performance that Joan Cusack in Addams family Values.
Judy Parfitt in ‘Dolores Claiborne’
Karen Black in ‘Come back to the five and dime, Jimmy Dean…’
Shelly Duvall in ‘Three Women’
Veronica Cartwright in The Witches of Eastwick.’
Veronica Cartwright in "Alien" and "Invasion of the Body Snatchers."
First time to the channel, and I found the subject and discussion fascinating and provocative. Spot on on most all points, some others omitted for snub talk would have been drinking buddies Burton and O'Toole with 15 competitive Oscar nods between them, with ZERO win. And one glaring pain in the back of my teeth for 25 years now from 70th Oscar Ceremony...Helen Hunt's abysmal Best Actress honor for "As Good As It Gets"...horrible. I look forward to learning more on your channel. Cheers
I was brushing my teeth and thoroughly unprepared for the kabuki warlord comment.
Wow! I love listening to u! What a great speaker and what vast KNOWLEDGE!!
The biggest shoulda coulda winner for best supporting actress that wasn't nominated is Michelle Pfeiffer in Batman Returns.
Am I crying for joy at this special as much as the Olympics? Yes. Yes I am! Also... Louis... I agree that no "nepo babies" should be left out of movies or television or music for "who they are"... But, I truly MISS actors becoming known for "who they AREN'T"... Are they silent or are they SILENCED? xo
Thank you.
The Oscars need a Best Ensemble award, like the SAGs.
1. Nashville predated the award by two decades.
2. Maybe the award would have prevented two of the most Best Film Oscar misfires of all time.
a) Shakespeare in Love and Crash won the SAG Best Ensemble and Oscar Best Film.
b) If Oscar had Best Ensemble, Oscar voters would have felt more free to vote for Saving Private Ryan and Brokeback Mountain as Best Film. Both are more deserving than Shakespeare and Crash, the winners in their respectful years.
3. Maybe it would prevent acting award misfires, especially supporting.
a) A few years, a film took three of the five slots. Like the Godfather and Best Supporting Actor.
b) Prevent award fraud. An unworthy Lead Nominee would instead be nominated for Ensemble and Supporting.
How did I just now find you?? THANK YOU for mentioning Mike Leigh’s Secrets and Lies!
Brilliant, as always! ❤
Thelma Ritter is the only actress that gave life to the otherwise dull performances in "Misfits". She was so far ahead of her time in the way she acted, it´s simply stunning.
You nailed it. thx
You’re hilarious and drop dead gorgeous!! Thank you!
Why is it NOW I discover your channel? Where have you been!? I love you!!
Great video. One correction: Margaret Hamilton wasn't nominated for The Wizard of Oz.
Well done 👏👏👏
My first visit and I’ll be back. Thelma Ritter was a wonderful force on the screen. Yes, loved this autopsy
First of all, thank you for this. My viewing of this video was my introduction to you and your work and I'm looking forward to checking more of it out.
I spent years insisting that Margaret Hamilton was robbed for her Wicked Witch performance. But then something interesting happened: I saw Gone With the Wind on the big screen. We always think "Oh, I need to see that on the big screen" when talking about epic movies, but it's usually the small scenes - not the big ones - that benefit most from the movie theatre setting. What I saw in Hattie McDaniel's eyes in the theatre, that I had never noticed on TV, really led me to reconsider that year's contest. So yeah, I don't have much of an argument for those who would vote for Hamilton, but I don't think it's quite as clear-cut as I used to.
By the way, Rear Window and On the Waterfront were in 1954, not 1953 as shown on the video. Small detail but I figured it was worth noting. Thanks again. I'll definitely be back.
Suzanne Pleshette for The Birds
Ooooh, good one.
Her longing for Mitch in her monologue is tragically sublime.
Excellent clip!! I liked it very much.
Oh my this is so much fun. Makes me want to see movies again.
Another Oscar snub: Keke Palmer in Nope (2022.) It’s such a great performance, so underrated. I know it’s not a great film but she gave one the year’s best performances. Certainly deserved the nomination and win. Only rivals Stephanie Hsu and certainly better than the year’s winner, JLC.
Joan Cusack 100%!!! She’s mesmerizing in Addams Family Values. She makes it one of my favorite films.
Yes, Secrets & Lies is a dynamic film with brilliant performances. I still think MJB should have won the Oscar that year.
Keke yes!!! So talented
I went back and watched “a haa-aand baa-aa-aag” at least six times until my stomach hurt from laughing.
I NEED THIS ON A SHIRT!!!🤣🤣🤣
One major snub was in 1977, Lynne Frederick for Voyage of the Damned. Lee Grant (who played Lynne’s mother in the film) got the nomination instead. However, Beatrice Straight won that year for The Network.
Lynne wasn’t nominated because she wasn’t as known as Lee Grant. Grant also confirmed in her book that the only reason she got nominated was because she shaved her head on screen in the film.
As good as Lee Grants performance was, it has no substance without Lynne’s performance. Highly recommend you see Voyage if you haven’t seen it already. Lynne Frederick was magnificent in the film!!!
No disagreement about Dame Edith Evans - her performance is the one on which everyone else bases their interpretation. I appreciate you shining a light on her Lady Bracknell performance.
I’m about six and half minutes in and have already burst into two loud “HA!!”s of incredulous laughter. Subscribed.
So sorry, Patty Duke. Angela Lansbury deserved that Oscar for her magnificent performance as the villainous “Mrs. Iselin”.
Patty Duke died in 2016. So, RIP is warranted,imo.
@@yvonneplant9434 Patty was my girl 😔. I was a huge fan of hers. 👏
Enjoyed the presenters' depth of knowledge on the subject. Hope to see more videos.😊
Handsome knowledgeable and entertaining. You won me over ❤
Great video. One correction... Margaret Hamilton was, unfortunately, not Oscar nominated for The Wizard of Oz.
Angela Lansbury was in one of my favorite movies "The World of Henry Orient" where she played an adulterous bee-otch ice queen and I loved her in "Blue Hawaii" as Elvis' mother with a southern accent, even though she was only ten years older than him. It's amazing that she never won an Emmy award even though she was nominated 18 times! She became a Disney Legend in 1995 and won five Tony awards, as well as some other ones, so that says something.
I love that you mention “The World of Henry Orient” which is an all time favorite film for me. The two girls were terrific and Angela was dead on as the unfaithful wife that the girls discover while following around their favorite crush, Henry Orient. Angela Lansbury was always a great actress. The Emmys had it way wrong for never giving her an Emmy.
“probably, 450 years younger than he is” 😂😂😂😂
You are so right about 'The Landlord'. Criminally underseen. And Lee Grant fought for that role as the Mother, though she was years too young, because she knew she could nail the character.
the HANDBAG....was both my Mum and Dad's all time favourite line 🥰.....we ALL said .." A HAAAAANDDD BAAAAAAAAAAGGG?!" whenever my Mum would say "wheres my handbag"? or can you find my Handbag ..etc 🤣
Glad to see love for Addams Family Values. It's a slam-dunk comedy and just such a confidently-crafted film that I'm in awe of it. Every single person was perfectly cast and brought their A-game to their roles. The movie got a perfectly deserved Oscar nomination for best Art/Set Direction, and I am 100% on board with that, it visually tells its story succinctly. Sorry, I can't help but rant about AFV, it's fantastic, and Joan Cusack was indeed beyond excellent in it.
Ruth Negga. That performance keeps me up at night.
Thelma Ritter!!!!!
I learned nothing from you .....but I found a kindred soul regarding movies . I became obsessed with the movie NASHVILLE when it was first released. I was 6 and my dad work drive passed the Lyric theater just so I could see the one sheet poster. To this day it's still my favorite film. I love movies so much . Woody Allen ,Robert Altman ,David Lynch and Eric Rohmer ❤
Love this take. Angela Lansbury was often cast as much older. She was born in 1925 and plays the mother of Laurence Harvey, born in 1928. I would like to throw Toni Collette into this conversation. Her 5 minute scene in The Hours is, to me, the standout under-the-radar performance for 2002. Another is Billie Whitelaw in The Omen. Such a menacing figure, played beautifully.
I just posted about Whitelaw. She 100% deserved at least a nomination that year.
Jean Hagen should have won for Singin’ In The Rain.
Hear, hear!
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Joan Cusack in Addams Family Values was such a masterclass in how to be a villian who has comedic, kooky and likable qualities that steals every scene she is in with a performance so sharp and purposeful it was just incredible to see, one of the best and quotable performances of all time. She was that good!!!
When I saw Addams Family Values in the theatre, I nearly fell out of my seat laughing. It remains my favorite comedy to this day. I must have seen it 2 dozen times by now.
You are so right about Thelma Ritter. All her roles were great, but she was brilliant in Pick Up On South Street. Everyone must see Secrets and Lies.
Thanks for making this video from India..
Yes Yes Yes Margaret Hamilton Wizard of Oz, her performance is perfect and unforgettable.
Yes...Joan Cusack for "Debbie" in the Addams Family Values and Margaret Hamilton as "The Wicked Witch of the West" in The Wizard of Oz definitely deserved nominations and wins in the best supporting actress Oscar category. 2 of my favorite cinematic villains. 😁
Some pretty good choices, especially Joan Cusack. Here are some of mine, I know it's a long list, but my list was longer and I had to whittle it down to this. And I know, the majority is 80s and 90s, but hey, I'm an 80s and 90s kid
1947 Kathleen Byron - Black Narcissus
1954 Mercedes McCambridge - Johnny Guitar
1955 Angela Lansbury - The Court Jester
1983 Melinda Dillon - A Christmas Story
1985 Any of the female cast from Clue
1989 Laura San Giacomo - sex, lies, and videotape
1990 Glenn Close - Reversal of Fortune
1991 Joanna Cassidy - Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead
1995 Jennifer Elise Cox - The Brady Bunch Movie
1996 Drew Barrymore - Scream
1996 Pam Ferris - Matilda
1999 Sigourney Weaver - Galaxy Quest
2000 Eartha Kitt - The Emperor's New Groove
2005 Glenn Close - The Chumscrubber
2011 Shirley MacLaine - Bernie
2014 Suzanne Clement - Mommy
2017 Lois Smith - Marjorie Prime
If there were a Really Good Campy and Spoof Movie awards, Don’t Tell Mom the Babysitter’s Dead and Galaxy Quest would be in it