I agree. She still has a line that I think is one of my favorites in cinema, "Sometimes I like to dance around in my underwear. Doesn't make me Madonna, never will".
Thelma Ritter and Mary Wickes - the two "every woman" character actresses who could put any of us right into a scene - and then steal it from a Bette Davis or Lionel Barrymore or James Stewart.
@@leeharrison8222 I need to see that, again. First Addams Family wasn't bad. I don't remember it well, though. A young Christina Rici as Wednesday: "Prepare to meet your maker." She said that in the first one, right?! Anyways, Joan Cusack was suitably chilling in the conspiracy, domestic terrorist movie Arlington Road, again, showing her range.
Wizard of Oz is my all-time favorite film and I adore Margaret Hamilton, but Hattie McDaniel as Mammy in Gone With the Wind richly deserved her historic best supporting actress Oscar that year, 1939.
As much as I love Holly Hunter, but I would have taken her nomination for The Firm out, and I would have put in Joan Cusack for Adam's Family Values. It's amazing how she managed to steal the film from its already stellar cast. Cusack is just brilliant and sadly underrated.
Madeline Kahn in everything she did, but specifically Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstein, High Anxiety and Clue. If they ever give posthumous lifetime achievement awards, she should be the first. Also: a cosplay event called MadelineCon.
@@ascent8487 Agreed! She so deserved that first, mostly unexpected, Oscar nomination. She is up there as a beautiful comedic actress with Carole Lombard, Myrna Loy, Roz Russel.
God, I need a weekly Oscars history / commentary podcast hosted by Louis. Can't second Louis' Secrets & Lies recommendation enough as well - everyone go watch it, it's so brilliant.
@@connorrorison4247 where were you in my life the year when this movie came out and I saw it 24 times in the movie theater and I would say those exact words?
Thanks so much for recognizing Thelma Ritter in "Rear Window." My wife and I thought she deserved it as well! 🙏🏻🙏🏻 Our second TR face was "Miracle on 34th St".
Just saw The Landlord within the last couple years. It is surprisingly good and the inter rational relevancy of the movie is dare i say: Brilliantly done. Beau Bridges plays the young, 20 something spoiled rich boy Urbane, property owner Landlord ... and the movie is sooo not a cliche. For those not in the know check it out.
Props to Joan Cusack for turning a theoretical liability -- her speech defect -- into a strength. I could say the same about Carol Kane, too. (You can add James Stewart of Bob Newhart to that list.) (I'm a stutterer, so I speak from experience.)
Louis, you are the sharp-tongued sister I didn't know I needed. Great video. Highlights: Joan Cusack being right in line with Marissa Tomei and Diane Wiest (never would have thought of this but true!). Joan Cusack looking like a Kabuki warlord! Geraldine Chaplin invented Parker Posey. I'm dying! And looking forward to more. Now I'm going to go check out the Judy Maxwell store.
Louis, I just love listening to you enthusiastically talk about movies!❤ And you ALWAYS introduce me to movies I’ve never heard of and remind me of movies I want to revisit.
Judy Parfitt in ‘Dolores Claiborne’ Karen Black in ‘Come back to the five and dime, Jimmy Dean…’ Shelly Duvall in ‘Three Women’ Veronica Cartwright in The Witches of Eastwick.’
Thelma Ritter is the only actress that gave life to the otherwise dull performances in "Misfits". She was so far ahead of her time in the way she acted, it´s simply stunning.
@@garymeise673Saw it in the theater as well! I'm not even sure I've seen it since then but their initial meetup scene still lives in my brain rent free.
Margaret Hamilton certainly deserved an Oscar nom, but she never got one for The Wizard of Oz. I believe there were a few "For your consideration..." ads, but she didn't make the list.
I actually did not mean to say that -- I obviously know the '39 nominees by heart! Geraldine Fitzgerald would probably be my choice to be switched out; Edna May Oliver is enjoyably stubborn in Drums Along the Mohawk, which is a solid epic
@@CmonVogue I figured it was a slip of the tongue, but I had to go remind myself of the nominees for that year because Hamilton was obviously so deserving for the indelibility of her performance, although, of course, that wasn't obvious to anyone yet, plus, I can't imagine 1930s Hollywood ever believing that any kind of witch role would deserve an Oscar (unless, of course, that witch was played by Bette).
Love you mentioned Thelma Ritter in this video. I love her whenever she turns up in a movie. To me she should have won the best supporting actress Oscar for Pickup on South Street. Such a brilliant performance by her in that film. I love when acting is so good you "feel it" in your gut. I really felt for her character in that film.
Two suggestions: 1. Madeline Kahn in basically everything. I don't feel like I need to justify this. 2. Veronica Cartwright in 1978 Invasion of the Body Snatchers and Alien. I adore VC. She is one of the best criers of all time. She gets into the ugly cry territory that most actors stray from. She has fantastic lines in IOTBS, just some really great conspiracy theory type lines. She then comes off as the most sane in Alien when she is on the verge of breaking down. I'd need to rewatch The Birds and The Children's Hour to see if either were worthy. She was good in The Birds, but I don't know if there was enough there. I'd also need to rewatch The Witches of Eastwick. She is great in The Right Stuff, but that is a stacked cast and I would put Mary Jo Deschanel or Pamala Reed as the likelier to have been nominated.
The Children's Hour was ahead of its time, both book and film. We were students...and did not understand what was going on. Only that it was unfair, somehow. Years later...the light dawned, and I was infuriated by the destruction caused by small , envious minds.
Thank you. The Oscars need a Best Ensemble award, like the SAGs. 1. Nashville predated the award by two decades. 2. Maybe the award would have prevented two of the most Best Film Oscar misfires of all time. a) Shakespeare in Love and Crash won the SAG Best Ensemble and Oscar Best Film. b) If Oscar had Best Ensemble, Oscar voters would have felt more free to vote for Saving Private Ryan and Brokeback Mountain as Best Film. Both are more deserving than Shakespeare and Crash, the winners in their respectful years. 3. Maybe it would prevent acting award misfires, especially supporting. a) A few years, a film took three of the five slots. Like the Godfather and Best Supporting Actor. b) Prevent award fraud. An unworthy Lead Nominee would instead be nominated for Ensemble and Supporting.
Love retro Louis diving into Oscar lore! Grahame was in the biggest hit of the year ("The Greatest Show on Earth"), was a fantastic femme fatale in "Sudden Fear" and worked opposite Robert Mitchum and Jane Russell in "Macao" the same year as "The Bad and the Beautiful"- I think getting the nod, then win for "Sudden Fear" would have aged a lot better for Grahame, but "Bad" was the big year-end release that got a lot of Oscar buzz, going on to win five Academy Awards. Also note: I wish it was the opposite, but Hamilton was not nominated for "Oz." Also, 1953 is showing for 1954 when discussing the Thelma Ritter in "Rear Window" race. And thanks for the shout out to Carolyn Jones in "The Bachelor Party"- one of the greatest performances in a tiny role ever.
Another Oscar snub: Keke Palmer in Nope (2022.) It’s such a great performance, so underrated. I know it’s not a great film but she gave one the year’s best performances. Certainly deserved the nomination and win. Only rivals Stephanie Hsu and certainly better than the year’s winner, JLC. Joan Cusack 100%!!! She’s mesmerizing in Addams Family Values. She makes it one of my favorite films. Yes, Secrets & Lies is a dynamic film with brilliant performances. I still think MJB should have won the Oscar that year.
I LOVE how righteously indignant Louis gets! Please keep doing these videos- talk fast, get mad, educate us - you are a blast to watch. I'm bingeing all of your Oscar Snub educational series right now. Hard to keep up with the lists of movies you refer to because not all of them are Oscar nominees we can easily reference by year.
Am I crying for joy at this special as much as the Olympics? Yes. Yes I am! Also... Louis... I agree that no "nepo babies" should be left out of movies or television or music for "who they are"... But, I truly MISS actors becoming known for "who they AREN'T"... Are they silent or are they SILENCED? xo
Joan Cusack in Addams Family Values was such a masterclass in how to be a villian who has comedic, kooky and likable qualities that steals every scene she is in with a performance so sharp and purposeful it was just incredible to see, one of the best and quotable performances of all time. She was that good!!!
One major snub was in 1977, Lynne Frederick for Voyage of the Damned. Lee Grant (who played Lynne’s mother in the film) got the nomination instead. However, Beatrice Straight won that year for The Network. Lynne wasn’t nominated because she wasn’t as known as Lee Grant. Grant also confirmed in her book that the only reason she got nominated was because she shaved her head on screen in the film. As good as Lee Grants performance was, it has no substance without Lynne’s performance. Highly recommend you see Voyage if you haven’t seen it already. Lynne Frederick was magnificent in the film!!!
This video has given me life. Thank you. You are so correct about Thelma Ritter. I love her in "Rear Window" which I got to see on the big screen a few years ago. She, Edna May Oliver and Marjorie Main are three of my all-time favorite character actresses.
Just found your channel. First off, I like your videos a lot. Second, I thank you so much for not using AI for narration. Your comments are fantastic, thoughtful, cogent, and interesting (and spot-on!!). Please keep things as good as they are, and I'll be a (new) subscriber for life!!!
Great list! Appreciate the reasoning and was impressed by your knowledge of movies. I'll definitely check out some of those films. P.S. I've often felt the same way about best picture winners, how 'important' films are often chosen over films whose craftsmanship are overshadowed by their mass appeal (or perception, as you mentioned about Hitchcock).
I would love for Izzy Custodio from Be Kind Rewind to be a guest on the pod because she goes in depth on the politics of the Oscars, specifically for the Best Actress and Best Supporting Actress categories. They’re always playing in our faces 😤
What a genius combo! I love Be Kind Rewind's video essays, and I bet the mutual language of Oscar's trivia that Louis and Izzy share would create a dynamic conversation
No, the movie was not sullied by a single Seinfeld episode. It was sullied by the fact that it was long and boring. I think Minghella’s talented Mr. Ripley was a far better example of an Oscar worthy movie. But the English patient was the cinematic equivalent of its color palette: beige and brown.
On the Hitchcock list, would want to add that Foreign Correspondent has a Best Pic nom - same yr as Rebecca. ❤ Rosie Perez shout out! Would also mention Kathleen Byron - Black Narcissus
First of all, a great big YES in support of Thelma Ritter! Secondly, thank you for giving me a list of more movies I need to watch. And thirdly, accept my expression of delight for the fact that you don't go negative -- you have something good to say about everyone!
Dutifully following your instructions to comment about Secrets & Lies; I just watched this film for the first time within the last year and was blown away. Absolutely beautiful and I agree that more people should be talking about it!
The first two Addams Family movies were perfectly cast. But considering it’s based on an old TV show, it is very, very easy to imagine someone else in the family member roles.
the HANDBAG....was both my Mum and Dad's all time favourite line 🥰.....we ALL said .." A HAAAAANDDD BAAAAAAAAAAGGG?!" whenever my Mum would say "wheres my handbag"? or can you find my Handbag ..etc 🤣
Yes...Joan Cusack for "Debbie" in the Addams Family Values and Margaret Hamilton as "The Wicked Witch of the West" in The Wizard of Oz definitely deserved nominations and wins in the best supporting actress Oscar category. 2 of my favorite cinematic villains. 😁
In the little-seen Come Back to the 5 & Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean, Karen Black gave her best performance, but was overshadowed by the attention paid to Cher. I highly recommend this film (it's on YT).
So spot on regarding Teresa Wright in “Shadow of A Doubt”! This was the first time I’ve seen you! I’m a huge Thelma Ritter fan as well (she should have won for “Pillow Talk”). You are pure Awesomeness!
You are so right about 'The Landlord'. Criminally underseen. And Lee Grant fought for that role as the Mother, though she was years too young, because she knew she could nail the character.
Angela Lansbury should have also been nominated (and won) for Death on the Nile in the late 1970s. She was magnificent and stole every scene she was in.
You are so right about Lee Grant. She should have won for The Landlord. The scene with Pearl Bailey where she drunkenly puts a hamhock in her purse had me howling. Missed opportunity by the Academy because she is so much better than Helen Hayes in Airport.
Glad to see love for Addams Family Values. It's a slam-dunk comedy and just such a confidently-crafted film that I'm in awe of it. Every single person was perfectly cast and brought their A-game to their roles. The movie got a perfectly deserved Oscar nomination for best Art/Set Direction, and I am 100% on board with that, it visually tells its story succinctly. Sorry, I can't help but rant about AFV, it's fantastic, and Joan Cusack was indeed beyond excellent in it.
Joan Cusack was bloody robbed! Renée Zellweger also talked about how brilliant Joan was in "Addams Family Values" on a SAG interview during her Oscar campaign for "Judy."
I was reminded of “The Ice Storm” in Louis’ recent interview of Cate Blanchett. Sigourney Weaver and Joan Allen are astounding and both worthy of supporting nominations this year. Weaver was nominated for the Golden Globe this year in supporting and Allen had been nominated the year prior for “The Crucible” so they were definitely in The Academy’s orbit. Both performances are so nuance and thoughtful and searingly stunning.
I had no idea about Joan Cusack's store. I must go. I met her once at the airport and breathlessly recited her filmography at her. It is extremely embarrassing to think about now, and she was incredibly gracious at the time. She's the best.
"A handbag!" I LOVE this version of Earnest made by a son of WWI Prime Minister Herbert Asquith. Thank you for shouting out that film. I'd love to know who was long-listed each year, I'm guessing some of these people might have been long-listed.
Some pretty good choices, especially Joan Cusack. Here are some of mine, I know it's a long list, but my list was longer and I had to whittle it down to this. And I know, the majority is 80s and 90s, but hey, I'm an 80s and 90s kid 1947 Kathleen Byron - Black Narcissus 1954 Mercedes McCambridge - Johnny Guitar 1955 Angela Lansbury - The Court Jester 1983 Melinda Dillon - A Christmas Story 1985 Any of the female cast from Clue 1989 Laura San Giacomo - sex, lies, and videotape 1990 Glenn Close - Reversal of Fortune 1991 Joanna Cassidy - Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead 1995 Jennifer Elise Cox - The Brady Bunch Movie 1996 Drew Barrymore - Scream 1996 Pam Ferris - Matilda 1999 Sigourney Weaver - Galaxy Quest 2000 Eartha Kitt - The Emperor's New Groove 2005 Glenn Close - The Chumscrubber 2011 Shirley MacLaine - Bernie 2014 Suzanne Clement - Mommy 2017 Lois Smith - Marjorie Prime
When I saw Addams Family Values in the theatre, I nearly fell out of my seat laughing. It remains my favorite comedy to this day. I must have seen it 2 dozen times by now.
I absolutely love your commentary and agree with much of what you say. The Kabuki Warlord line almost made me implode. You're praise of Joan Cusack reminded me of her very small but unforgettable non-speaking (I believe if I remember correctly) role in Sixteen Candles. Both she and her brother John had small roles in that classic John Hughes film. Oh, I'm now a subscriber to your channel so y'all can look forward to frequent annoying posts. Enjoy your day everyone
Great video and list - just discovered your channel. One correction...I rewatched the last section and I think you said the last group of people DID get nominated, but didn't win...Unfortunately Margaret Hamilton was not nominated for The Wizard of Oz, or tragically for any of her films.
Timing prevented Thelma from being nominated for Rear Window in 1954, as she had just had 4 consecutive nominations in 1950 (All About Eve) 1951 (The Mating Season) 1952 (With A Song in My Heart) and 1953 (Pick-Up on South Street). Unjustly, the Academy decided to pick some fresh faces (3 nominees born in 1924) and a not-so-fresh one (Trevor).
I haven't watched many of your videos, but I strongly agreed with you about The English Patient and Ordinary People, two of my all-time favorite films, both masterpieces.
Angela Lansbury was in one of my favorite movies "The World of Henry Orient" where she played an adulterous bee-otch ice queen and I loved her in "Blue Hawaii" as Elvis' mother with a southern accent, even though she was only ten years older than him. It's amazing that she never won an Emmy award even though she was nominated 18 times! She became a Disney Legend in 1995 and won five Tony awards, as well as some other ones, so that says something.
Oh man, YES...YES YES YES...especially Joan Cusack! AFV is my most favorite movie...I cannot ever get enough of it. And Dame Edith and Thelma are just smashing in anything they did. Love them!
Joan Cusack's eye shadow was another character in Working Girl.
I agree. She still has a line that I think is one of my favorites in cinema, "Sometimes I like to dance around in my underwear. Doesn't make me Madonna, never will".
indeed it was 😅
She deserved the Oscar.😊
Finally someone who speaks on the supremacy of Thelma Ritter
Indeed!
Thelma Ritter and Mary Wickes - the two "every woman" character actresses who could put any of us right into a scene - and then steal it from a Bette Davis or Lionel Barrymore or James Stewart.
Thelma was robbed!
YES
Yes Thelma Ritter in Rear Window. "What's General Motors got to be nervous about, over production I'd say"
Joan Cussack’s performance in Adams Family Values was a tour de force
I love her in that movie. I watch it every year around Halloween and the humor never gets old for me. She's a great actress with range.
@@leeharrison8222 I need to see that, again. First Addams Family wasn't bad. I don't remember it well, though. A young Christina Rici as Wednesday: "Prepare to meet your maker." She said that in the first one, right?!
Anyways, Joan Cusack was suitably chilling in the conspiracy, domestic terrorist movie Arlington Road, again, showing her range.
I could watch Louis talk about the Oscar’s for 1 million hours.
Over 57 years?!
same. I also wish he would guest on This Had Oscar Buzz. Curious to know what movie he’d pick to talk about
Im in love!
OK, I know this will be perceived as inappropriate, but I’d like to watch him doing anything shirtless. Or in a Speedo. OK, i said it.
@@jamiebranco4092
Right there with you.
"A Kabuki Warlord who sometimes goes into the office" OMG! Louis you are too funny!
Came here to post the same quote. I literally LOLed! 🤣🤣🤣
I nearly spat out my coffee at that and then just let it dribble down my chin as I shrugged and thought... "Yeah, that's about accurate."
Ah, the 80s...
MARGARET HAMILTON: "THE WIZARD OF OZ: YES!!! A performance for the ages!!!!
Except she wasn't nominated.
@@garymacmillan6401 Yes, she was not nominated, and is there a more iconic, chilling, unforgettable performance in the history of film?
@@johnnolan5579 Totally agree. The whole film is a masterpiece.
Wizard of Oz is my all-time favorite film and I adore Margaret Hamilton, but Hattie McDaniel as Mammy in Gone With the Wind richly deserved her historic best supporting actress Oscar that year, 1939.
@@johnnolan5579 No. Oh, that was a rhetorical question. Sorry.
As much as I love Holly Hunter, but I would have taken her nomination for The Firm out, and I would have put in Joan Cusack for Adam's Family Values. It's amazing how she managed to steal the film from its already stellar cast. Cusack is just brilliant and sadly underrated.
I think casting directors see her as niche.
Madeline Kahn in "What's Up, Doc?"
Madeline Kahn in everything she did, but specifically Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstein, High Anxiety and Clue. If they ever give posthumous lifetime achievement awards, she should be the first. Also: a cosplay event called MadelineCon.
Right there with you!
Madeline Kahn in almost everything she was in.
@@ascent8487
Agreed! She so deserved that first, mostly unexpected, Oscar nomination. She is up there as a beautiful comedic actress with Carole Lombard, Myrna Loy, Roz Russel.
God, I need a weekly Oscars history / commentary podcast hosted by Louis.
Can't second Louis' Secrets & Lies recommendation enough as well - everyone go watch it, it's so brilliant.
Also chiming in re Secrets and Lies. Brenda Blethyn and Timothy Spall! It's stunning.
Same!!
Yes!
That film makes me wither to this day just thinking about it
Audiences are routinely “um….wrong!” Savage!😂😂
A Kabuki Warlord....Sir, You´ve made my day...🤣
I HOWLED
I’m 💀
The biggest snub in my opinion is Michelle Pfeiffer for Batman returns
There should be an awards show for the really good campy movies and Batman Returns should have been in it.
Honestly, one could argue she’s a lead in that film considering she has more screen time than Micheal Keaton/Batman
@@connorrorison4247 where were you in my life the year when this movie came out and I saw it 24 times in the movie theater and I would say those exact words?
Meow.
Amen!!! Best female villain performance since The Wicked Witch of the West, still my fave Batman movie of all time!! Robbed of an Oscar!!
Addam's Family Values is a legendary comedy, and Joan Cusack was incredible along with the rest of the cast.
Thanks so much for recognizing Thelma Ritter in "Rear Window." My wife and I thought she deserved it as well! 🙏🏻🙏🏻 Our second TR face was "Miracle on 34th St".
“The Landlord” callout in this vid is everything to me. But, Ruth Negga not even being nominated still
keeps me up at night.
Just saw The Landlord within the last couple years. It is surprisingly good and the inter rational relevancy of the movie is dare i say: Brilliantly done. Beau Bridges plays the young, 20 something spoiled rich boy Urbane, property owner Landlord ... and the movie is sooo not a cliche. For those not in the know check it out.
Joan Cusack in In & Out. She was wonderful
And how about Joan Cusack in the totally unknown and underrated "Men Don't Leave?"
I saw Men Don’t Leave on a flight. Meh. As for Cusack, I love her but in that film she was kind of a reboot of Geena Davis in the Accidental Tourist.
Props to Joan Cusack for turning a theoretical liability -- her speech defect -- into a strength. I could say the same about Carol Kane, too. (You can add James Stewart of Bob Newhart to that list.) (I'm a stutterer, so I speak from experience.)
And also nominated so wouldn't apply here...
OMG! We died dead we laughed SO hard when she ‘melts’ down in the wedding dress! Had to rewind that scene I don’t remember how many times.
I'm going to try to fit "ha-a-and-ba-a-a-ag" into my every day conversation.
make it work, one way or another! lol
Louis, you are the sharp-tongued sister I didn't know I needed. Great video. Highlights: Joan Cusack being right in line with Marissa Tomei and Diane Wiest (never would have thought of this but true!). Joan Cusack looking like a Kabuki warlord!
Geraldine Chaplin invented Parker Posey. I'm dying! And looking forward to more. Now I'm going to go check out the Judy Maxwell store.
Yeah, that was another great line-comparison. Geraldine in Nashville and Parker side by side.😆 Forget about it🤣
Louis, I just love listening to you enthusiastically talk about movies!❤ And you ALWAYS introduce me to movies I’ve never heard of and remind me of movies I want to revisit.
Judy Parfitt in ‘Dolores Claiborne’
Karen Black in ‘Come back to the five and dime, Jimmy Dean…’
Shelly Duvall in ‘Three Women’
Veronica Cartwright in The Witches of Eastwick.’
Jean Hagen should have won for Singin’ In The Rain.
Hear, hear!
Thelma Ritter is the only actress that gave life to the otherwise dull performances in "Misfits". She was so far ahead of her time in the way she acted, it´s simply stunning.
MADELINE KAHN in What's Up Doc!
a Marianne Jean Baptiste callout this early in the morning? I was not prepared.
One of my favorite movies of all time. And Brenda Blethyn is brilliant too!
Secrets and Lies was absolutely sublime. I will never forget watching this movie in the theater. Baptiste and Brenda B. simply A level
@@garymeise673Saw it in the theater as well! I'm not even sure I've seen it since then but their initial meetup scene still lives in my brain rent free.
Thank you for talking about older films! I feel like so many Oscar-related channels act like movies didn’t exist before 1970!
Beverly D’Angelo in “Coal Miner’s Daughter” is one of the worst snubs. She was fantastic in that movie.
Margaret Hamilton certainly deserved an Oscar nom, but she never got one for The Wizard of Oz. I believe there were a few "For your consideration..." ads, but she didn't make the list.
I actually did not mean to say that -- I obviously know the '39 nominees by heart! Geraldine Fitzgerald would probably be my choice to be switched out; Edna May Oliver is enjoyably stubborn in Drums Along the Mohawk, which is a solid epic
@@CmonVogue I figured it was a slip of the tongue, but I had to go remind myself of the nominees for that year because Hamilton was obviously so deserving for the indelibility of her performance, although, of course, that wasn't obvious to anyone yet, plus, I can't imagine 1930s Hollywood ever believing that any kind of witch role would deserve an Oscar (unless, of course, that witch was played by Bette).
You gave me a a complete catch'-up period of all the movies I never had time to watch to watch. Fascinating delivery...clear and precise. Well done.
Love you mentioned Thelma Ritter in this video. I love her whenever she turns up in a movie. To me she should have won the best supporting actress Oscar for Pickup on South Street. Such a brilliant performance by her in that film. I love when acting is so good you "feel it" in your gut. I really felt for her character in that film.
Two suggestions: 1. Madeline Kahn in basically everything. I don't feel like I need to justify this.
2. Veronica Cartwright in 1978 Invasion of the Body Snatchers and Alien. I adore VC. She is one of the best criers of all time. She gets into the ugly cry territory that most actors stray from. She has fantastic lines in IOTBS, just some really great conspiracy theory type lines. She then comes off as the most sane in Alien when she is on the verge of breaking down.
I'd need to rewatch The Birds and The Children's Hour to see if either were worthy. She was good in The Birds, but I don't know if there was enough there. I'd also need to rewatch The Witches of Eastwick. She is great in The Right Stuff, but that is a stacked cast and I would put Mary Jo Deschanel or Pamala Reed as the likelier to have been nominated.
The Children's Hour was ahead of its time, both book and film. We were students...and did not understand what was going on. Only that it was unfair, somehow. Years later...the light dawned, and I was infuriated by the destruction caused by small , envious minds.
Hahaha...loved the Susan Hayward intro! Love Secrets and Lies.
I was brushing my teeth and thoroughly unprepared for the kabuki warlord comment.
Lee Grant in The Landlord is SO UNSUNG, thank you!!! I'm never not thinking about her acting with icon Pearl Bailey
Loved THE LANDLORD. Very underseen.
Thank you.
The Oscars need a Best Ensemble award, like the SAGs.
1. Nashville predated the award by two decades.
2. Maybe the award would have prevented two of the most Best Film Oscar misfires of all time.
a) Shakespeare in Love and Crash won the SAG Best Ensemble and Oscar Best Film.
b) If Oscar had Best Ensemble, Oscar voters would have felt more free to vote for Saving Private Ryan and Brokeback Mountain as Best Film. Both are more deserving than Shakespeare and Crash, the winners in their respectful years.
3. Maybe it would prevent acting award misfires, especially supporting.
a) A few years, a film took three of the five slots. Like the Godfather and Best Supporting Actor.
b) Prevent award fraud. An unworthy Lead Nominee would instead be nominated for Ensemble and Supporting.
Love retro Louis diving into Oscar lore! Grahame was in the biggest hit of the year ("The Greatest Show on Earth"), was a fantastic femme fatale in "Sudden Fear" and worked opposite Robert Mitchum and Jane Russell in "Macao" the same year as "The Bad and the Beautiful"- I think getting the nod, then win for "Sudden Fear" would have aged a lot better for Grahame, but "Bad" was the big year-end release that got a lot of Oscar buzz, going on to win five Academy Awards. Also note: I wish it was the opposite, but Hamilton was not nominated for "Oz." Also, 1953 is showing for 1954 when discussing the Thelma Ritter in "Rear Window" race. And thanks for the shout out to Carolyn Jones in "The Bachelor Party"- one of the greatest performances in a tiny role ever.
So sorry, Patty Duke. Angela Lansbury deserved that Oscar for her magnificent performance as the villainous “Mrs. Iselin”.
Patty Duke died in 2016. So, RIP is warranted,imo.
Damn! How did I miss your return to TH-cam!? I've been waiting for this content since Verbal Vogueing! SUBSCRIBED!
Suzanne Pleshette for The Birds
Ooooh, good one.
Her longing for Mitch in her monologue is tragically sublime.
Thank you so much for bringing attention to these magnificent overlooked performances!! Thelma Ritter is my all time favorite character actress.
Another Oscar snub: Keke Palmer in Nope (2022.) It’s such a great performance, so underrated. I know it’s not a great film but she gave one the year’s best performances. Certainly deserved the nomination and win. Only rivals Stephanie Hsu and certainly better than the year’s winner, JLC.
Joan Cusack 100%!!! She’s mesmerizing in Addams Family Values. She makes it one of my favorite films.
Yes, Secrets & Lies is a dynamic film with brilliant performances. I still think MJB should have won the Oscar that year.
Keke yes!!! So talented
Margaret Hamilton was NOT nominated for a supporting Oscar award for "Wizard of Oz." Hamilton never recieved a nomiation for any film.
I hate to correct but Hamilton was not nominated for Wizard of Oz. We all know we she should’ve been nominated
you are a delight.................. Loved it.
What’s up Doc is one of my favorite movies. I’m a good gay boy
Right there with you!
Hilarious film!
I’m not a gay boy, but loved that movie since I was a little girl!
Love it!
@@kittykatz4001
You have good taste!
I LOVE how righteously indignant Louis gets! Please keep doing these videos- talk fast, get mad, educate us - you are a blast to watch. I'm bingeing all of your Oscar Snub educational series right now. Hard to keep up with the lists of movies you refer to because not all of them are Oscar nominees we can easily reference by year.
I love your list but where the fuck is Michelle Pfeiffer for White Oleander?
Ruth Negga. That performance keeps me up at night.
Thelma Ritter!!!!!
Am I crying for joy at this special as much as the Olympics? Yes. Yes I am! Also... Louis... I agree that no "nepo babies" should be left out of movies or television or music for "who they are"... But, I truly MISS actors becoming known for "who they AREN'T"... Are they silent or are they SILENCED? xo
Joan Cusack in Addams Family Values was such a masterclass in how to be a villian who has comedic, kooky and likable qualities that steals every scene she is in with a performance so sharp and purposeful it was just incredible to see, one of the best and quotable performances of all time. She was that good!!!
One major snub was in 1977, Lynne Frederick for Voyage of the Damned. Lee Grant (who played Lynne’s mother in the film) got the nomination instead. However, Beatrice Straight won that year for The Network.
Lynne wasn’t nominated because she wasn’t as known as Lee Grant. Grant also confirmed in her book that the only reason she got nominated was because she shaved her head on screen in the film.
As good as Lee Grants performance was, it has no substance without Lynne’s performance. Highly recommend you see Voyage if you haven’t seen it already. Lynne Frederick was magnificent in the film!!!
This video has given me life. Thank you. You are so correct about Thelma Ritter. I love her in "Rear Window" which I got to see on the big screen a few years ago. She, Edna May Oliver and Marjorie Main are three of my all-time favorite character actresses.
Just found your channel. First off, I like your videos a lot. Second, I thank you so much for not using AI for narration. Your comments are fantastic, thoughtful, cogent, and interesting (and spot-on!!). Please keep things as good as they are, and I'll be a (new) subscriber for life!!!
Thank you. There has never been a better comedic performance that Joan Cusack in Addams family Values.
Great list! Appreciate the reasoning and was impressed by your knowledge of movies. I'll definitely check out some of those films. P.S. I've often felt the same way about best picture winners, how 'important' films are often chosen over films whose craftsmanship are overshadowed by their mass appeal (or perception, as you mentioned about Hitchcock).
I went back and watched “a haa-aand baa-aa-aag” at least six times until my stomach hurt from laughing.
I NEED THIS ON A SHIRT!!!🤣🤣🤣
I would love for Izzy Custodio from Be Kind Rewind to be a guest on the pod because she goes in depth on the politics of the Oscars, specifically for the Best Actress and Best Supporting Actress categories. They’re always playing in our faces 😤
What a genius combo! I love Be Kind Rewind's video essays, and I bet the mutual language of Oscar's trivia that Louis and Izzy share would create a dynamic conversation
Margaret Hamilton was NOT nominated for The Wizard of Oz.
I loved this. Funny and informative! Great job.
No, the movie was not sullied by a single Seinfeld episode. It was sullied by the fact that it was long and boring. I think Minghella’s talented Mr. Ripley was a far better example of an Oscar worthy movie. But the English patient was the cinematic equivalent of its color palette: beige and brown.
Louis - discovered this by accident. YOU ARE A GEM!!! I agree with EVERY snub you've identified. Keep up the good work!
On the Hitchcock list, would want to add that Foreign Correspondent has a Best Pic nom - same yr as Rebecca. ❤ Rosie Perez shout out! Would also mention Kathleen Byron - Black Narcissus
Ruth Negga in Passing was phenomenal and I was devastated she wasn't nominated.
I haven't seen that but everything I've seen her in she's very good. She's the only reason I would sit through Preacher.
First of all, a great big YES in support of Thelma Ritter! Secondly, thank you for giving me a list of more movies I need to watch. And thirdly, accept my expression of delight for the fact that you don't go negative -- you have something good to say about everyone!
Dutifully following your instructions to comment about Secrets & Lies; I just watched this film for the first time within the last year and was blown away. Absolutely beautiful and I agree that more people should be talking about it!
Yes Yes Yes Margaret Hamilton Wizard of Oz, her performance is perfect and unforgettable.
The first two Addams Family movies were perfectly cast. But considering it’s based on an old TV show, it is very, very easy to imagine someone else in the family member roles.
My first visit and I’ll be back. Thelma Ritter was a wonderful force on the screen. Yes, loved this autopsy
Ahhh hahah not Anna Paqin being 2years old! hahahaha
the HANDBAG....was both my Mum and Dad's all time favourite line 🥰.....we ALL said .." A HAAAAANDDD BAAAAAAAAAAGGG?!" whenever my Mum would say "wheres my handbag"? or can you find my Handbag ..etc 🤣
Yes...Joan Cusack for "Debbie" in the Addams Family Values and Margaret Hamilton as "The Wicked Witch of the West" in The Wizard of Oz definitely deserved nominations and wins in the best supporting actress Oscar category. 2 of my favorite cinematic villains. 😁
Shoutout to Miriam Margolyes as Mrs Mingott in The Age of Innocence who got robbed too.
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What'd you call me?!
In the little-seen Come Back to the 5 & Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean, Karen Black gave her best performance, but was overshadowed by the attention paid to Cher. I highly recommend this film (it's on YT).
So true. Karen's performance was stunning, with some heartbreaking lines.
Can't think of any other actress who could have pulled that off so convincingly.
Robert Shaw for Supporting Actor in Jaws. I don’t know how he wasn’t at least nominated.
So spot on regarding Teresa Wright in “Shadow of A Doubt”! This was the first time I’ve seen you! I’m a huge Thelma Ritter fan as well (she should have won for “Pillow Talk”). You are pure Awesomeness!
You are so right about 'The Landlord'. Criminally underseen. And Lee Grant fought for that role as the Mother, though she was years too young, because she knew she could nail the character.
Angela Lansbury should have also been nominated (and won) for Death on the Nile in the late 1970s. She was magnificent and stole every scene she was in.
You are so right about Lee Grant. She should have won for The Landlord. The scene with Pearl Bailey where she drunkenly puts a hamhock in her purse had me howling. Missed opportunity by the Academy because she is so much better than Helen Hayes in Airport.
Glad to see love for Addams Family Values. It's a slam-dunk comedy and just such a confidently-crafted film that I'm in awe of it. Every single person was perfectly cast and brought their A-game to their roles. The movie got a perfectly deserved Oscar nomination for best Art/Set Direction, and I am 100% on board with that, it visually tells its story succinctly. Sorry, I can't help but rant about AFV, it's fantastic, and Joan Cusack was indeed beyond excellent in it.
Joan Cusack was bloody robbed! Renée Zellweger also talked about how brilliant Joan was in "Addams Family Values" on a SAG interview during her Oscar campaign for "Judy."
I was reminded of “The Ice Storm” in Louis’ recent interview of Cate Blanchett. Sigourney Weaver and Joan Allen are astounding and both worthy of supporting nominations this year. Weaver was nominated for the Golden Globe this year in supporting and Allen had been nominated the year prior for “The Crucible” so they were definitely in The Academy’s orbit. Both performances are so nuance and thoughtful and searingly stunning.
I had no idea about Joan Cusack's store. I must go. I met her once at the airport and breathlessly recited her filmography at her. It is extremely embarrassing to think about now, and she was incredibly gracious at the time. She's the best.
"A handbag!" I LOVE this version of Earnest made by a son of WWI Prime Minister Herbert Asquith. Thank you for shouting out that film.
I'd love to know who was long-listed each year, I'm guessing some of these people might have been long-listed.
Some pretty good choices, especially Joan Cusack. Here are some of mine, I know it's a long list, but my list was longer and I had to whittle it down to this. And I know, the majority is 80s and 90s, but hey, I'm an 80s and 90s kid
1947 Kathleen Byron - Black Narcissus
1954 Mercedes McCambridge - Johnny Guitar
1955 Angela Lansbury - The Court Jester
1983 Melinda Dillon - A Christmas Story
1985 Any of the female cast from Clue
1989 Laura San Giacomo - sex, lies, and videotape
1990 Glenn Close - Reversal of Fortune
1991 Joanna Cassidy - Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead
1995 Jennifer Elise Cox - The Brady Bunch Movie
1996 Drew Barrymore - Scream
1996 Pam Ferris - Matilda
1999 Sigourney Weaver - Galaxy Quest
2000 Eartha Kitt - The Emperor's New Groove
2005 Glenn Close - The Chumscrubber
2011 Shirley MacLaine - Bernie
2014 Suzanne Clement - Mommy
2017 Lois Smith - Marjorie Prime
If there were a Really Good Campy and Spoof Movie awards, Don’t Tell Mom the Babysitter’s Dead and Galaxy Quest would be in it
When I saw Addams Family Values in the theatre, I nearly fell out of my seat laughing. It remains my favorite comedy to this day. I must have seen it 2 dozen times by now.
I absolutely love your commentary and agree with much of what you say. The Kabuki Warlord line almost made me implode. You're praise of Joan Cusack reminded me of her very small but unforgettable non-speaking (I believe if I remember correctly) role in Sixteen Candles. Both she and her brother John had small roles in that classic John Hughes film. Oh, I'm now a subscriber to your channel so y'all can look forward to frequent annoying posts. Enjoy your day everyone
Love that you champion Secrets & Lies!! Such a special & important movie.
This is the first of your vids I've ever seen. I think I love you.
How did I just now find you?? THANK YOU for mentioning Mike Leigh’s Secrets and Lies!
Great video and list - just discovered your channel. One correction...I rewatched the last section and I think you said the last group of people DID get nominated, but didn't win...Unfortunately Margaret Hamilton was not nominated for The Wizard of Oz, or tragically for any of her films.
I was sure you’d mention Meg Tilly losing out to Angelica Houston for Agnes of God! Maybe that film needs its own video!
“Kabuki war lord”. He just gets it. Beautifully.
Timing prevented Thelma from being nominated for Rear Window in 1954, as she had just had 4 consecutive nominations in 1950 (All About Eve) 1951 (The Mating Season) 1952 (With A Song in My Heart) and 1953 (Pick-Up on South Street). Unjustly, the Academy decided to pick some fresh faces (3 nominees born in 1924) and a not-so-fresh one (Trevor).
You nailed it. thx
Having never seen this channel before, the thumbnail had me thinking “who’s that actor and why’d they snub him” lol
I haven't watched many of your videos, but I strongly agreed with you about The English Patient and Ordinary People, two of my all-time favorite films, both masterpieces.
Angela Lansbury was in one of my favorite movies "The World of Henry Orient" where she played an adulterous bee-otch ice queen and I loved her in "Blue Hawaii" as Elvis' mother with a southern accent, even though she was only ten years older than him. It's amazing that she never won an Emmy award even though she was nominated 18 times! She became a Disney Legend in 1995 and won five Tony awards, as well as some other ones, so that says something.
Oh man, YES...YES YES YES...especially Joan Cusack! AFV is my most favorite movie...I cannot ever get enough of it. And Dame Edith and Thelma are just smashing in anything they did. Love them!
Angela Lansbury as the titular "Grandma" of "Grandma's house" in "The Company of Wolves". Just an amazing performance.
Ahhh Secrets and Lies! Such a good one! Thank you for calling attention to it. I was also a fan of Rosie Perez and Fearless.