I like to think that some of the unused designs are how they would dress back in the two separate worlds. Cammuravi’s beta design certainly seems more “Blade” than soldier.
@@fandaze4517 not necessarily. Everyone was transfered into Aionios without an age requirement. We don't even know if the Agnus side of the party were children. There's even a scene with Rex and Shulk where they say something like "I never thought I'd be seeing them grow up again", implying Nikol and Glimmer were already grown ups when the worlds collided.
@@XenoVis you do remember the game started with 10 year old Noah then once time stayed game we see noah going off to the flute mio is playing the same age 10 🙏🏻
Since Mwamba's unused Hero recruitment line is "Let's smash this mission, for the Consul!", which is definitely something that can only be realistically said in Chapter 1, then the far more likely theory imo is that Mwamba was originally going to be a proper introduction to Heroes in Chapter 1, and by extension, likely mean that Chain Attacks were originally going to be unlocked in Chapter 1 instead of Chapter 2. They likely moved both the Hero and Chain Attack unlocks/tutorials to later in the game, both to not overwhelm the player with too many mechanics at once, and also to make it so that you have the full party by the time you have access to these tools. Another possible theory is that Mwamba is the test/dummy character for Heroes and Hero Chain Attacks. Either way, due to the fact that there is no unused Blade associated with him unlike with Joran and Nimue, he was likely never planned to be a permanent Hero at any point in development.
I didn't see you cover it, but one of the concepts for Rex shows him attacking in a manner that looks reminiscent of Mythra's Photon Edge special where he quickly dashes around an area attacking multiple times. My guess is it was probably a contender to be his talent art or an unused idea for unison attacks. Its a shame too cause if he did have that, then he'd have something from both pyra and mythra in his kit.
I wonder if mio having an aegis core crystal might be a remnent from Rex heart having part of pyra/mythra's core crystal and the effects lingered even after his heart being repaired. wouldn't surprise me if the aegis core crystal altered Rex dna in some capacity considering similar precedents do exist with how the creation process for blades becoming flesh eaters and a human becoming a blade eaters both showing signs of the host being altered after the fact.
Thanks for the shout out. I found even more unused voice files after you made this video. It appears that almost every named NPC has battle voice lines, regardless if you fight them or not. It'll probably be a few weeks before I post them because I need to finish sorting through all the other used files to make sure I don't miss anything else.
@@ShiftedPyro At the end of Chapter 1, Moebius D says "Now the whole world will be your enemy!" I'm guessing you were originally supposed to fight NPCs from every Colony before you freed them. But then the confusing thing about that is the City NPCs also have battle lines too.
Lemme just say, white Taion is some cursed sh*t. Also the shade of saying people would like Joran more if he was skinny, like damn bro don't be mean, also Joran as a hero probably would've been in a playable flashback scene, like maybe the flashback scene of a practice battle against Garvel's team was a playable section
Maybe they would've even done something like Na'el in Future Redeemed where you get to battle during the story with the character and after completing the game you unlock em permanently
Last week i attended fanime expo in san jose california. And there, i found a copy of the full official art books of both xenoblade 2 and 3. It was well worth the money as the self proclaimed “pope of the church of klaus” so i get to see all the cut content and beta designs and concept art i could ever want.
There is some art of Ponny tail Noah with Monado replica so yeah, beta noah design. There's also a cool underwater captocorn peak/gormott head The leftherian islands on the grass gives me major Xenoblade X Primordia vibes Also, yeah team cape for N&M and costumes for heroes (give us a wave 5 monolith!) , maybe in XC3 definitive edition
30:16 My favorite piece of unused graphics has to be strm_hero_pic. A relatively unremarkable piece in the grand scheme of things, but the fact that it's one of the earliest design concepts and it was created day and date with *my 20th birthday* is downright AWESOME to have learned!
I have the book but thanks for this as I missed some of these specilations and I wish I can get high res versions of the world disign pics you showed with the proto party
20:18 Ashera's (best girl) Ferronis is quite similar to these, but its upper half is more humanoid. Kinda looks like a centipede...? That thing game me the chills first time I saw it
Melia does use Mind Blast, and a couple other arts she doesn’t use as a hero, during her robot boss fight. I think the voice lines are different though
There's two things about the unused Heroes that really makes me think that you were supposed to be allowed to have them as NG+ content. One, after beating the game, when returning to your save file, You get a few new accessories that are auto attached to Mwamba, despite him not being in the list, and when Ethele leaves in the main game, her accessories disappear from the list. Another is more so a reason they Could and should have been. They could have gone the way of Shulk/Rex and had them not interact with cutscenes.
After seeing all those beta designs, I gotta say - the final cast looks absolutely spectacular. there's so much unity between the six of them, but with a lot of personal expression at the same time. I don't think I would have connected with the cast nearly as well as I did if they wore those goofy-ass fits.
They could have had multiple zohars if those were zohar emulators, and maybe they would have looked more like the emulators if Monolith stuck with that idea. I suspect that they still could not secure rights permissions from Squeenix before XC3 originally released, and by the time Future Redeemed released they only had enough time to include several nods to Xenosaga instead of straight up including zohars/emulators.
things i don't believe were mentioned, there seem to be leftovers for a photo mode that was going to be in the game, although not much. They also mention in the book that they thought about having whole towns on ferronis's but reduced the scale (you can still see this in some art). and there was art of the colony mio comes from (forgot the name rn) that has a different flame clock and a zohar on it. also if you enter Z's theatre without his bossfight you can fight the screen in it(it just takes one hit) just a very odd thing. And the reson given for N and M's capes being removed was that it interfered with their hair in modeling.
Ooh I see. I didn't know about the photo mode, would've been great to have it in the game especially for awesome screenshot opportunities. The reason for N and M not having capes is a bummer but is understandable. Probably would've looked more goofy than cool in practice.
Big disagree on Taion, his ass was done so dirty in the final version. that early fit was clean and that fro is crazy, not sure it would fit his personality though.
This is awesome! I love the concept art for xenoblade 3 arguably the most out of the games in the series. There’s just one thing I got confused by, how does the game and art book deconfirm Sena’s connection to Brighid? If it’s because of the core crystals not matching it could be cuz she might’ve inherited the circular core Crystal and ether lines from Aegeon assuming that Sena is the daughter of Brighid and Aegeon
@@ShiftedPyro that’s true, though it could be that Sena’s parents are both blades, so if Sena’s father is Aegeon, then it’s possible for her to have inherited the ether lines and round core Crystal from him
Cool video but RUDE, don't talk about Joran like that, he's great just the way he is ! Skinny Joran is some cursed shit, I like the final design way better. Wish there were more fat characters in Xenoblade tbh, I understand that there's not as many fat people in Japan compared to say, the US, but almost all the ones we get are antagonists... Even Joran was against us most of the game.
seriously all these ferroronis town is cool as hellm but instead we got same looking camp as the town, that is one of my issue with the game, the other "city" is boring old tent camp
@@IcyDragonRB I also wouldn't be surprised if they just didn't need much concept for him other than design. Especially if it was decided early that Shulk would still use the Monado REX from Future Connected and his movement/animations would take after Dunban, they probably could just look back at whatever concepts they had for those instead of making new ones here.
It is still content that didn't make it into the final game. Sure, concept art was never going to look 1:1 in-game, but it's still cool to discuss and talk about
@@ShiftedPyro it isnt content its concepts, idea unused content is things that were or are still programmed in but arent used, concepts is the stage before that, unused concepts are just the results of brainstorming ideas until they decide which one theyre going with
@julien827 while you are right, it is digestible for the viewer to just put it under one umbrella. Plus The Unused Concepts and Content of Xenoblade 3 wouldn't be a pretty title 😅😅
I like to think that some of the unused designs are how they would dress back in the two separate worlds. Cammuravi’s beta design certainly seems more “Blade” than soldier.
Back in the 2 worlds they was kids lol
@@fandaze4517 not necessarily. Everyone was transfered into Aionios without an age requirement. We don't even know if the Agnus side of the party were children.
There's even a scene with Rex and Shulk where they say something like "I never thought I'd be seeing them grow up again", implying Nikol and Glimmer were already grown ups when the worlds collided.
@@XenoVis you do remember the game started with 10 year old Noah then once time stayed game we see noah going off to the flute mio is playing the same age 10 🙏🏻
Since Mwamba's unused Hero recruitment line is "Let's smash this mission, for the Consul!", which is definitely something that can only be realistically said in Chapter 1, then the far more likely theory imo is that Mwamba was originally going to be a proper introduction to Heroes in Chapter 1, and by extension, likely mean that Chain Attacks were originally going to be unlocked in Chapter 1 instead of Chapter 2.
They likely moved both the Hero and Chain Attack unlocks/tutorials to later in the game, both to not overwhelm the player with too many mechanics at once, and also to make it so that you have the full party by the time you have access to these tools.
Another possible theory is that Mwamba is the test/dummy character for Heroes and Hero Chain Attacks.
Either way, due to the fact that there is no unused Blade associated with him unlike with Joran and Nimue, he was likely never planned to be a permanent Hero at any point in development.
I wake up everyday now thanking the lord for not taking away my Nigga Taion skin color we could have been robbed
For real man crazy how he went from that to a clean ass design man. Did that nigga dirty beforehand
@@ShiftedPyro The character designers decided to lock in at the last minute thankfully
THE RETURN OF THE KING!! I really wish Eunie's interlink kept the halo ring look, I think it would have added a lot to the current design.
I didn't see you cover it, but one of the concepts for Rex shows him attacking in a manner that looks reminiscent of Mythra's Photon Edge special where he quickly dashes around an area attacking multiple times. My guess is it was probably a contender to be his talent art or an unused idea for unison attacks. Its a shame too cause if he did have that, then he'd have something from both pyra and mythra in his kit.
Oooh I missed that one, definitely would've been pretty cool to see in game as well
I wonder if mio having an aegis core crystal might be a remnent from Rex heart having part of pyra/mythra's core crystal and the effects lingered even after his heart being repaired. wouldn't surprise me if the aegis core crystal altered Rex dna in some capacity considering similar precedents do exist with how the creation process for blades becoming flesh eaters and a human becoming a blade eaters both showing signs of the host being altered after the fact.
Hmmm I've heard people say that. It's cool to think about even though I just think it would've made that scene complicated imo
Thanks for the shout out. I found even more unused voice files after you made this video. It appears that almost every named NPC has battle voice lines, regardless if you fight them or not.
It'll probably be a few weeks before I post them because I need to finish sorting through all the other used files to make sure I don't miss anything else.
Oh wow, that's interesting. I wonder why they had them do all that work just for it to be left unused.
@@ShiftedPyro At the end of Chapter 1, Moebius D says "Now the whole world will be your enemy!" I'm guessing you were originally supposed to fight NPCs from every Colony before you freed them. But then the confusing thing about that is the City NPCs also have battle lines too.
White taion is so cursed
Lemme just say, white Taion is some cursed sh*t.
Also the shade of saying people would like Joran more if he was skinny, like damn bro don't be mean, also Joran as a hero probably would've been in a playable flashback scene, like maybe the flashback scene of a practice battle against Garvel's team was a playable section
Maybe they would've even done something like Na'el in Future Redeemed where you get to battle during the story with the character and after completing the game you unlock em permanently
I think Joran could have been a post game unlock. Would be nice to have another Kevesi Healer.
@@terminallyunfunny9728Yeah, almost all healers in the game are agnian, a keves healer would've been dope
holy shit i was so absorbed by his goofy ass hair i legit never noticed he had a different skin color
Man, I wish some of these unused designs became skins at least...
Most of the unused outfits still look great!
That's what I said! Such a missed opportunity to put them in LOC, it would've been great
Hopefully they use some in the next game.
7:52 Aha yes. I have to look on TH-cam first to find out how to change the hair length.
10:02
Noooooooooooooooo
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I wouldn't be mad if it wasn't for the design which was clearly based on Bridgit
24:25 I'm not sure how you see that as Guernica, second from the right pretty clearly looks like an early version of Lanz.
The tip of the coat threw me off no lie. It looked like the ends of his hair and then I looked in closely and you're right lol
Last week i attended fanime expo in san jose california. And there, i found a copy of the full official art books of both xenoblade 2 and 3. It was well worth the money as the self proclaimed “pope of the church of klaus” so i get to see all the cut content and beta designs and concept art i could ever want.
24:41, Looks more like an early concept for the City if anything, makes sense if it could move at anytime to avoid Moebius.
There is some art of Ponny tail Noah with Monado replica so yeah, beta noah design.
There's also a cool underwater captocorn peak/gormott head
The leftherian islands on the grass gives me major Xenoblade X Primordia vibes
Also, yeah team cape for N&M and costumes for heroes (give us a wave 5 monolith!) , maybe in XC3 definitive edition
17:58 that isn't exactly true. We did get some control over her in one moment of the story.
This art book going to make Xenoblade Chronicles 4 speculation be harder to resist
White Taion haunts my nightmares.
30:16 My favorite piece of unused graphics has to be strm_hero_pic. A relatively unremarkable piece in the grand scheme of things, but the fact that it's one of the earliest design concepts and it was created day and date with *my 20th birthday* is downright AWESOME to have learned!
holy fuc that Princess Mio beta design is beautiful. and if anyone ever doubts she's Nia's baby...just show them that
41:03 Rex’s line made me cackle lmao
13:10 The truest words from the video
I have the book but thanks for this as I missed some of these specilations and I wish I can get high res versions of the world disign pics you showed with the proto party
Yeah would've loved to see more of a closeup on their designs
Dude concept art and concept ideas ≠ unused content
I like Mio’s straight long hair beta design the most
20:18 Ashera's (best girl) Ferronis is quite similar to these, but its upper half is more humanoid. Kinda looks like a centipede...? That thing game me the chills first time I saw it
yo the thumniall is so cool!
The final version of New Battle!!! is much better but that vibrato in the intro of the beta version is fire
Hard agree it's great ❤
I haven’t even touched xb3 yet, and I already know Pyro cooked with this video
Melia does use Mind Blast, and a couple other arts she doesn’t use as a hero, during her robot boss fight. I think the voice lines are different though
There's two things about the unused Heroes that really makes me think that you were supposed to be allowed to have them as NG+ content.
One, after beating the game, when returning to your save file, You get a few new accessories that are auto attached to Mwamba, despite him not being in the list, and when Ethele leaves in the main game, her accessories disappear from the list.
Another is more so a reason they Could and should have been.
They could have gone the way of Shulk/Rex and had them not interact with cutscenes.
After seeing all those beta designs, I gotta say - the final cast looks absolutely spectacular. there's so much unity between the six of them, but with a lot of personal expression at the same time. I don't think I would have connected with the cast nearly as well as I did if they wore those goofy-ass fits.
Stuck 3 hours from home sure why not watch some pyro.
21:59 okay who was it that gave keves, the technology of the protoss from starcraft?
Really cool video all around! I noticed you left the “N” out of Hypnotize around 39 minutes btw
You can I was really tired making this video😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
They could have had multiple zohars if those were zohar emulators, and maybe they would have looked more like the emulators if Monolith stuck with that idea. I suspect that they still could not secure rights permissions from Squeenix before XC3 originally released, and by the time Future Redeemed released they only had enough time to include several nods to Xenosaga instead of straight up including zohars/emulators.
damn its sad that alot of cool concept art wasnt used
things i don't believe were mentioned, there seem to be leftovers for a photo mode that was going to be in the game, although not much. They also mention in the book that they thought about having whole towns on ferronis's but reduced the scale (you can still see this in some art). and there was art of the colony mio comes from (forgot the name rn) that has a different flame clock and a zohar on it. also if you enter Z's theatre without his bossfight you can fight the screen in it(it just takes one hit) just a very odd thing.
And the reson given for N and M's capes being removed was that it interfered with their hair in modeling.
Ooh I see. I didn't know about the photo mode, would've been great to have it in the game especially for awesome screenshot opportunities. The reason for N and M not having capes is a bummer but is understandable. Probably would've looked more goofy than cool in practice.
13:10 I have never agreed more with anyone in my life.
the year..... is 2024.... and shifted pyro...... has FINALLY release a new video
Its great to be a Madoka and Xenoblade fan
Yessir indeed
XBC3 UI so cool
It is very cool indeed
Big disagree on Taion, his ass was done so dirty in the final version. that early fit was clean and that fro is crazy, not sure it would fit his personality though.
Hmm interesting, first one I've seen being a supporter of Early Taion. Hard agree on it clashing with his personality lol
This is awesome! I love the concept art for xenoblade 3 arguably the most out of the games in the series. There’s just one thing I got confused by, how does the game and art book deconfirm Sena’s connection to Brighid? If it’s because of the core crystals not matching it could be cuz she might’ve inherited the circular core Crystal and ether lines from Aegeon assuming that Sena is the daughter of Brighid and Aegeon
It's mainly Ether Lines and Core Crystal not lining up with Brighid.
@@ShiftedPyro that’s true, though it could be that Sena’s parents are both blades, so if Sena’s father is Aegeon, then it’s possible for her to have inherited the ether lines and round core Crystal from him
6:35 mmmmm
that zohar art :O
Cool video but RUDE, don't talk about Joran like that, he's great just the way he is ! Skinny Joran is some cursed shit, I like the final design way better.
Wish there were more fat characters in Xenoblade tbh, I understand that there's not as many fat people in Japan compared to say, the US, but almost all the ones we get are antagonists... Even Joran was against us most of the game.
Welcome Back buddy
great video!
God I really wish aionios moments was English I want it so bad but I don't know of any way to get it here :(
Pyro, notice me
seriously all these ferroronis town is cool as hellm but instead we got same looking camp as the town, that is one of my issue with the game, the other "city" is boring old tent camp
Very interesting!
Taion as a Caucasian is like seeing a bootleg version of the game xD it just feels OFF!
U would have been fine had his beta design went through
10:02 What deconfirms it? Afaik it's unconfirmed, not deconfirmed.
transition at 18:16 seems to be wrong but otherwise goated video
Yeah i saved over the wrong file when trying to fix one because I was tired from the all-nighters
Patiently waiting someone to create a white taion mod. My money is on the localization team forcing taion to be black
Pyro you're so sec-c haha
where did yiu find the digitalized pages?
Mio in the aionios moments outfit makes me feel things.
She did keep her mother's thighs and hips it seems
17:58 Nothing about Shulk?
Nothing I'm afraid. Shulk is still the same way he is with the Monado REX
Yep, Shulk's section in this new artbook is very lacking, its like half a page I think
@@ShiftedPyro Aw man! But I guess it shouldn't be a surprise when he's more tied to Monolith than Saito.
@@IcyDragonRB I also wouldn't be surprised if they just didn't need much concept for him other than design. Especially if it was decided early that Shulk would still use the Monado REX from Future Connected and his movement/animations would take after Dunban, they probably could just look back at whatever concepts they had for those instead of making new ones here.
Y O
It's been a while. I've been cooking up videos for a long time now
@@ShiftedPyro Ya love to see it
Concept art is not really unused content, though?
It is still content that didn't make it into the final game. Sure, concept art was never going to look 1:1 in-game, but it's still cool to discuss and talk about
@@ShiftedPyro it isnt content its concepts, idea unused content is things that were or are still programmed in but arent used, concepts is the stage before that, unused concepts are just the results of brainstorming ideas until they decide which one theyre going with
@julien827 while you are right, it is digestible for the viewer to just put it under one umbrella. Plus The Unused Concepts and Content of Xenoblade 3 wouldn't be a pretty title 😅😅
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