It's the old power plant above Telluride, CO. (I live 50 miles from the Black Bear "road", and have taken a commercial trip over it.) There's no way on earth that I would ever take anything that I own over that "road". Make one mistake and guess what? th-cam.com/video/2R5cLghSWGQ/w-d-xo.html Note: I've preordered a Rivian.
I'm so happy to see the rivian can handle all this. It's a little more off road than what I have planned so if the ford lightning can do half this good I'll be a happy camper. Also glad to see you can get that far out and still not have to worry about the range. Good job. Great review.
@@cypvh74 Hopefully it wasn't too expensive. I've damaged that part of a car before (turns out it's dumb to try to drive your car onto car ramps by yourself/without a spotter) and it was well into the 4 figure range and it didn't even include damage to the door. The part that would have rubbed against the rock looked like it was probably the side door(s). It looks like the doors go all the way down over the rocker panel. You're right though, even if it was just paint/cosmetic, it hurt.
That’s a famous turn where just about every vehicle needs to do a 5 point turn and the guy was trying to be cool for the camera not realizing he was documenting a huge mistake.
Just about yes electric drivetrains are not effected by atmospheric conditions as their entire system is sealed with the exception of cooling that could be affected but that's a thermodynamics thing
Why wasn’t the key interests put in this video like where and when did you charge ? we would love to know that you left it completely out of the video. How many days did it take. ?? How far did you go total how far did you go per charge?
I would like to see TFL have an opportunity to evaluate the truck. They are unbiased and I value their opinion. If it is the greatest thing since sliced bread let TFL have at it.
The pickup has had tons of validation from its engineers in the real world before being sold to the general public. I think Rivian has addressed every weakness at this point. I reserved one in February but am waiting for the 250 mile version with a lower price point. I’m going Glacier White with the awesome Forest Edge green interior.
A lot of knowledgeable people in the comments. I had a question about the four motor setup and traction control. In a typical vehicle a single motor puts out a certain amount of torque. Open differentials send that torque to the wheel with the least amount of traction. In something like a wrangler rubicon the lockers send the same amount of torque to every wheel. My question is this… With the 4 motor setup if only one wheel has traction it will still get power, but because it has its own motor does it only get 1/4 of the torque the truck produces?
Great series but I would have liked to see more footage in and around the truck doing its thing and showing it’s features, and less talking about the trip and drone footage. It feels like you were trying to make a ten minute video but only really had two minutes of actual useable footage.
Interested in the suspension. I understand the dampening and the adjustment is great, but what about basic travel. I know IFS will never flex as much as a solid axle, but it is hard to see how much articulation there actually is.
They have a hybrid air/hydraulic system. In sport mode the hydraulics make the vehicle corner very flat, like a sports car. In off road the "virtual" anti-sway bar portion of the suspension programming decouples and you have max droop at each wheel.
Rivian employs more than one ex McLaren chassis engineer. They designed a electro mechanical suspension using adjustable air shocks and Ohlins components. It’s what differentiates this pickup from all of the other truck competitors. It can climb like a goat off-road and then turns into a performance car when it hits pavement. Truly amazing.
@@mini2nut67 the adaptability of the suspension does seem to really be a highlight. With that setup you should be able to have a suspension that has maximum adjustability. Although the lower control arms appear to be fixed, there appears to be something going on with the upper control arms that changes the whole geometry of the suspension. How is caster, camber, and tow maintained through the arc of the suspension?
Also, how do the suspension characteristics change. For instance, most air suspension gets stiffer at higher tide heights because of added pressure. The Rivian appears to be able to change the stiffness and be softer despite the higher ride height.
Looks like you trashed your plastic side skirt making the turn at 9:00 in the video. This is why you get steel side rails for overlanding, boys and girls.
Why not? If spending $70k on truck, you likely have enough $$ to spend on repairs. Or just not worry about cosmetic damage. And show that the world you actually use the truck as a truck and not just a status symbol.
@@cypvh74 sorry, but that’s a well known turn that usually requires going back and forth several times. They were trying to be cool for the camera rather than doing it realistically. The New Bronco’s trail turn assist makes easy work of that turn but no one in their right mind says that it’s “normal” to damage your vehicle just because you can afford to wreck it. When you damage it you’re exercising either low skill or a poor understanding of your equipment’s capability. Nobody goes and wrecks their off road rig on a “basic” move like that only clueless Jerrys.
So did they actually spend a night not in a hotel room? They still have to go into town every day to recharge. True Overlanding is being away from civilization for days. Still, it seems like a solid day truck.
@@cypvh74 that’s not true that slower speeds will increase their range. At high torque, slow speed, on rough roads with all the weight they are lugging around going uphill their energy use will be much higher per mile than on a smooth road. That being said, the regen descending may or may not offset that significantly. When you refer to “slow” you’re probably thinking 30-50 mph. These guys are going under 10 mph and the regen doesn’t work that well without a little bit of momentum so instead you use more physical brake to control your speed. The other day I drove 30 miles from roughly 9.5k elevation down to about 4k and averaged negative 8-9 kwh/100 miles. Going up over 20 miles from 4500 to 9.5k (in a Taycan 4S with three bike racks on top) it was about 80-100 kwh/100 miles. So imagine how much energy you need to climb up loose uphill rock. It will be 100 kwh/100 miles at a minimum or 1.0 kwh/mile which is about 1/3 to 1/2 of a reasonably efficient EV on flat or rolling roads and then going down something like BB pass you’re crawling at such a slow speed you may only regen 1% or less per 1000 ft of elevation change. So I highly doubt they had great efficiency because in general you have all of the variables stacked against you: low traction, lots of climbing, slow descending, and a lot of weight.
@@davect01It's just possible to go across the country w output having to go into town. Check the video your commenting on. It's not a traditional overlanding trip. It's thousands of miles.
Motortrend usually does a great job of evaluating vehicles and this is a cool piece but it seems like a big advertisement for the R1T. I'd love to See Rivian succeed but no car is perfect....and these segments are just a little too perfect.
There are 20 million millionaires in the USA. If only 1% choose to buy a Rivian that's 200000 sales. Enough to cover the next few years of production until the can design a more affordable model.
Rivian is building out charging infrastructure for remote areas. Also a lot of this “trail” runs through towns and such, so not a big deal. You can literally plug this in anywhere there’s an outlet. Plus you have the build back better plan to expand charging infrastructure.
This is the most gorgeous, uplifting series about electrification and decarbonation of our transportation that has even been published. Wow.
Awesome video MotorTrend! This series knocks it out of the park! Awesome job to the photographers/videographers too!
Couldn’t agree more!
Great to see the R1Ts actually picking up a coat of dirt and mud, and doing some legit off-roading
Man, the scenery really makes me want to do this trip.
Holy cow, that house on that cliff at that opening shot!! Talk about a room with a view!
Wherever that is, I need to go there!!
It's the old power plant above Telluride, CO. (I live 50 miles from the Black Bear "road", and have taken a commercial trip over it.) There's no way on earth that I would ever take anything that I own over that "road". Make one mistake and guess what? th-cam.com/video/2R5cLghSWGQ/w-d-xo.html Note: I've preordered a Rivian.
Yes to that house with the waterfall!!!!
I'm so happy to see the rivian can handle all this. It's a little more off road than what I have planned so if the ford lightning can do half this good I'll be a happy camper. Also glad to see you can get that far out and still not have to worry about the range. Good job. Great review.
Only 2.5 min in but like these guys so much more than the 2nd segment personalities. These guys are at home on the trail.
Hats off to Rivian Marketing team...This is how to advertise a product.
What a scenery men😍😍💗
I agree!
That turn against the rock… ouch :(
I wonder how many thousands of dollars of damage they caused. It's an awesome truck, but I'd be afraid of taking it anywhere like that.
@@LanceT. doubt it was thousands. It scraped the rocker panel is all. Just cosmetic damage probably.
@@cypvh74 Hopefully it wasn't too expensive. I've damaged that part of a car before (turns out it's dumb to try to drive your car onto car ramps by yourself/without a spotter) and it was well into the 4 figure range and it didn't even include damage to the door. The part that would have rubbed against the rock looked like it was probably the side door(s). It looks like the doors go all the way down over the rocker panel. You're right though, even if it was just paint/cosmetic, it hurt.
That’s a famous turn where just about every vehicle needs to do a 5 point turn and the guy was trying to be cool for the camera not realizing he was documenting a huge mistake.
Since gas cars lose HP at higher elevation due to the less dense air, would that mean that electric engines have the same HP at all elevations?
Correct
Just about yes electric drivetrains are not effected by atmospheric conditions as their entire system is sealed with the exception of cooling that could be affected but that's a thermodynamics thing
Best Leg Yet!
Beautiful. Great camera work especially the aerial shots.
Wish I could afford one.
Nothing reminds me how it was 150 years ago quite like electric pickup trucks with campers and processed meat 🤣
Why wasn’t the key interests put in this video like where and when did you charge ? we would love to know that you left it completely out of the video. How many days did it take. ?? How far did you go total how far did you go per charge?
Some of that is in the written article.
awesome video and nice review at the end
I would like to see TFL have an opportunity to evaluate the truck. They are unbiased and I value their opinion.
If it is the greatest thing since sliced bread let TFL have at it.
I want to buy this legendary electric car from Rivian 😍
The pickup has had tons of validation from its engineers in the real world before being sold to the general public. I think Rivian has addressed every weakness at this point. I reserved one in February but am waiting for the 250 mile version with a lower price point. I’m going Glacier White with the awesome Forest Edge green interior.
love the rivian want one
A lot of knowledgeable people in the comments. I had a question about the four motor setup and traction control.
In a typical vehicle a single motor puts out a certain amount of torque. Open differentials send that torque to the wheel with the least amount of traction. In something like a wrangler rubicon the lockers send the same amount of torque to every wheel.
My question is this…
With the 4 motor setup if only one wheel has traction it will still get power, but because it has its own motor does it only get 1/4 of the torque the truck produces?
Probably the best leg really showcasing the r1t but least viewed what the heck
When’s leg 4 and 5? We need em!
Great series but I would have liked to see more footage in and around the truck doing its thing and showing it’s features, and less talking about the trip and drone footage. It feels like you were trying to make a ten minute video but only really had two minutes of actual useable footage.
Interested in the suspension. I understand the dampening and the adjustment is great, but what about basic travel. I know IFS will never flex as much as a solid axle, but it is hard to see how much articulation there actually is.
They have a hybrid air/hydraulic system. In sport mode the hydraulics make the vehicle corner very flat, like a sports car.
In off road the "virtual" anti-sway bar portion of the suspension programming decouples and you have max droop at each wheel.
Rivian employs more than one ex McLaren chassis engineer. They designed a electro mechanical suspension using adjustable air shocks and Ohlins components. It’s what differentiates this pickup from all of the other truck competitors. It can climb like a goat off-road and then turns into a performance car when it hits pavement. Truly amazing.
@@mini2nut67 the adaptability of the suspension does seem to really be a highlight. With that setup you should be able to have a suspension that has maximum adjustability. Although the lower control arms appear to be fixed, there appears to be something going on with the upper control arms that changes the whole geometry of the suspension. How is caster, camber, and tow maintained through the arc of the suspension?
Also, how do the suspension characteristics change. For instance, most air suspension gets stiffer at higher tide heights because of added pressure. The Rivian appears to be able to change the stiffness and be softer despite the higher ride height.
Rivian needs to drive one under water like Fred did with the cummins jeep.
This video is a light beer when I was expecting a stout.
Beautiful vid................................... 👍👍👍
TFL > MotorTrend
Looks like you trashed your plastic side skirt making the turn at 9:00 in the video. This is why you get steel side rails for overlanding, boys and girls.
Black Bear Pass??
fantastic !
This same trip in the new Hummer would be awesome!
I don’t think that can make its way down the Black Bear Pass. Would get stuck on the switch-backs. Rivian’s the perfect size for everything
@@ashrafc7794 Even the Rivian was a tight fit. Pivoting on the rockers was cringe worthy.
@@ashrafc7794 what are you talking about? The hummer EV has 4 wheel steering and can run 37” tires. You have no idea what you’re saying.
@@radcardad size of vehicle...
I would not take my R1T down Black Bear pass, it looked like he hit the door sill on one of the turns and kept going it definitely needs rock rails.
Future.
Is now.
Less talk more truck and trail please!
Check out Sean Holman & Jay Tilles’ The Truck Show Podcast. Highly recommend
These episodes are awesome I enjoy them but they really seem like a commercial. Not a test.
Very nice but it looks like the dinged it up a bit on some rocks. Not something I would do with my own $70K truck....
Why not? If spending $70k on truck, you likely have enough $$ to spend on repairs. Or just not worry about cosmetic damage. And show that the world you actually use the truck as a truck and not just a status symbol.
@@cypvh74 sorry, but that’s a well known turn that usually requires going back and forth several times. They were trying to be cool for the camera rather than doing it realistically. The New Bronco’s trail turn assist makes easy work of that turn but no one in their right mind says that it’s “normal” to damage your vehicle just because you can afford to wreck it. When you damage it you’re exercising either low skill or a poor understanding of your equipment’s capability. Nobody goes and wrecks their off road rig on a “basic” move like that only clueless Jerrys.
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Hey Kris!
nice commercial
So did they actually spend a night not in a hotel room?
They still have to go into town every day to recharge. True Overlanding is being away from civilization for days.
Still, it seems like a solid day truck.
Depends on how many miles they traveled in a day. Truck has more than 300miles rated range and at slow speeds, going to have a lot more than that.
@@cypvh74 that’s not true that slower speeds will increase their range. At high torque, slow speed, on rough roads with all the weight they are lugging around going uphill their energy use will be much higher per mile than on a smooth road. That being said, the regen descending may or may not offset that significantly. When you refer to “slow” you’re probably thinking 30-50 mph. These guys are going under 10 mph and the regen doesn’t work that well without a little bit of momentum so instead you use more physical brake to control your speed. The other day I drove 30 miles from roughly 9.5k elevation down to about 4k and averaged negative 8-9 kwh/100 miles. Going up over 20 miles from 4500 to 9.5k (in a Taycan 4S with three bike racks on top) it was about 80-100 kwh/100 miles. So imagine how much energy you need to climb up loose uphill rock. It will be 100 kwh/100 miles at a minimum or 1.0 kwh/mile which is about 1/3 to 1/2 of a reasonably efficient EV on flat or rolling roads and then going down something like BB pass you’re crawling at such a slow speed you may only regen 1% or less per 1000 ft of elevation change. So I highly doubt they had great efficiency because in general you have all of the variables stacked against you: low traction, lots of climbing, slow descending, and a lot of weight.
Bruh. Gas vehicles have to go back into town at some point too. Can't carry enough fuel for this whole trip smh.
@@dylanvelasquez9869 You have never overlanded have you.
@@davect01It's just possible to go across the country w output having to go into town. Check the video your commenting on. It's not a traditional overlanding trip. It's thousands of miles.
Motortrend usually does a great job of evaluating vehicles and this is a cool piece but it seems like a big advertisement for the R1T. I'd love to See Rivian succeed but no car is perfect....and these segments are just a little too perfect.
Lend it to TFL ... don't be scared
Pretty much one giant advertisement.
And it’s working
"Hardcore" off-roader but don't like camping but prefers hotels. What a townie whimps.
Issue is normal people cant afford it!
Most people can’t afford new trucks. Most buy used.
There are 20 million millionaires in the USA. If only 1% choose to buy a Rivian that's 200000 sales. Enough to cover the next few years of production until the can design a more affordable model.
At $67,000, it’s going to be a slow burn.
Lol
У всех мужчин на видео на лице - борода. Почему? У них нет бритвы и они не соблюдают гигиену? Почему у людей борода на лице?
Add a V8 and I'm your huckleberry
Nice and well designed truck but that front end design is by Edsel?? A face only a mother could love!! Ugly 🤡..
Problem, no recharge station in middle of the wild. It won't work. So no on ev bs
Rivian is building out charging infrastructure for remote areas. Also a lot of this “trail” runs through towns and such, so not a big deal. You can literally plug this in anywhere there’s an outlet. Plus you have the build back better plan to expand charging infrastructure.
Problem, no gas station I. The middle of the wild. It won't work. No no gas bs. Boomers just be holding on to old tech. Smh.
No electric vehicles!