I absolutely love how halsin embodies being a druid so much, talking about how the idol is nothing compared to the life of a child, and how grace is bestowed by nafure, not him. Such amazing writing
@@lem0nad3z Sad thing is, you never actually have to find that out at all. There is nothing that i know of that even points you towards this unless you see the chest and think "oh, i'll steal something from this" and find the breadcrumb.
This is how you portray a true Good-aligned Druid. Someone who reveres all forms of natural life, whether that life belongs to a plant, an animal, or a person, all life is sacred and precious to them, and the choice to take a life is one not to be made lightly. To him, Life itself is the greatest treasure and gift bestowed by nature, not some religious idol or icon....especially when compared to the life of a child. That is where Kagha made her biggest mistake, viewing some idol, a mere lump of stone, as being more valuable than the life of a child.
Right after at the party, Arabella's parents poison Kagha. Then stab her. What's interesting is that Kagha has an antidote on her at all times, but it doesn't work apparently. Suffice to say, Oakfather's will.
Astarion: *Rises from the shadow behind Kagha, grabbing her head and shoulder as he sinks his fangs in her, draining her of life.* Karlach: “Astarion, you giant boob! Tav said Execute Order 66, not 86!”
There really is no reason for you to kill her. If Arabella's parents are alive for the party they murder her by the lake for there daughter. It is a sick sense of justice but one Khaga brought on herself.
@@JnEricsonx”I see you are ready to meet Kelemvor, be yee sure of thy actions for although Kelemvor is merciful and just, I am not. Raise a blade to me and I will strike you down” then pull out a great sword the hums with a necrotic green flame “The path of the righteous is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers and you will know My name is Death when I lay my vengeance upon thee
I love how Kagha's excuse immediately falls apart, first claiming it was an accident, then contradicting herself by trying to justify it. It would be funny if the subject matter wasn't so grim.
Hell I’m sure Halsin would be even more severe knowing Kagha was going to essentially sell out the grove to the shadow druids, but I don’t think that route allows for Kagha to be spared for the discussion.
its ridiculous because the goblins werent even there for the refugees, they were specifically there to raid the grove and kill the druids in search of the gith artifact. If they hadnt been such exclusionary bigots, they could have worked together to save themselves. They were the only ones stopping the druids from being slaughtered. Hell you even find a letter in Thorm's rooms where he made contact with the shadow druids promising power if they spread their influence with the groves, all to sow discord with among the druids to isolate them and keep them stuck up their own asses in neutral gear, unwilling to oppose him as "he's just focused on people", right uptil the point they were the last ones on the list for him to eliminate. If one grove got massacred, the others wouldnt find out until it was too late.
@@Ratty524 Get Arabella killed, then redeem Kagha during the shadow druid confrontation? You need to be a druid yourself or have some other prerequisite to convince her
I was always curious on what Halsin’s reaction would be should Arabella get killed by Kagha. Not only this answers my curiosity, but man! This reaction from Halsin is more than satisfying. I refuse to let Arabella die in any of my playthroughs. So this video helps~
Same I can't see an arch druid going at a mere child and do nothing, but personally I feel like this speech is so much better than when you save Arabella.
@@ArthurLocatelli It honestly is. Part of me wishes Halsin would've just outright banished Kagha, regardless. Since she was willing to put the Grove in danger, killing the refugees within it, and forsake the ideals the Grove was built on. Kagha is lucky that I've allowed her to live in my playthroughs. However, that might change since I want to witness what it's like playing as a Durge...
I'm sure if you do the shadow druid side quest, you can just not persuade Kagha to repent and you can axe her in the fight with the rest of the shadow druids, no problem.@@ChocolateLoveKitten
Halsin’s amazing. He can be both kind and sincere and brutally terrifying. It’s crazy how she was his second in command and yet there are years between them in wisdom and humbleness.
Halsin's a great character for sure. My only problem with him is a gameplay bug where his follow behaviour will randomly break, that's my only issue with him and that's hardly the character's fault.
@@humrH2360Found another quote sort of like this which I find funny but pretty true. "You can't truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of great violence. If you aren't capable of violence, you aren't peaceful. You're harmless. Important distinction." Halsin is truly peaceful. Even after condemning her like this he chooses exile over violence- though he is very capable of the latter option.
The worst part: *even the snake that Kagha uses to kill Arabella thinks it's the wrong thing to do!* If you're a druid with Speak With Animals on, you can tell it that Arabella's only a kid and it'll go "damn I didn't know... that's messed up!" and it will talk Kagha down for you.
Let's be real none of your companions except halsin would be upset. In fact shadow would probably use the gravity is natural line while tav stares off in to space not listening to halsin rant.
@@tianshuhuang5431The child is not innocent though. She stole a sacred idol. Being a theif is not the same as being innocent. Not to mention, that she stole it while being a guest on Druid land.
His dialog is so different here. My first play though I was a Druid and convinced Kagha to turn back to the light during the battle against the evil druids. Halsin’s response had some similar lines but he tried to give her a second chance. But as soon as a child is killed, he shows no forgiveness
There's a huge difference between if you did or didn't expose the shadow druid angle, which I love. She says similar things when she's being shouted at, but if she's been exposed then she means the apologies HARD.
Thats such a cool little side story i didnt even know existed until my 3rd or 4th playthrough. Convinced her to turn back and her apology to Halsin when he returned completely changed with how sincere she was and realized she fucked up.
Druids are also about protecting their people, their rituals, and their groves/dens. While also maintaining population control. Khaga is just as much a druid in that sense as well. They just have different morals.
Halsin: Whatever happens to you next, know that it is the Oak Father's will. Durge: *[Flashes Kagha a bloodthirsty grin]* Be seeing you later tonight~!
Same, although it would be hypocritical of him. He doesn’t take her life out of malice because then he’d have sunk as low as her. A hero at heart indeed.
He still hopes and has the slightest belief that Kagha will repent and be the Druid she's supposed to be. He wants to punish her for her grave mistake but that hope made him resort to banishing her. If he does think that Kagha cannot repent, he will kill her. This is why Halsin shows 0 pity to Goblins and resort to violence at mere sight of them, because he does not see that Goblins can be kind and live in harmony with nature.
He really is and it's sad that the gamers' thirst for his physique overshadows his personality. He is exactly what a wise, caring archdruid should be. I love that he's not some dictator who strikes her down, he is the Oak father's servant and only their god should pass judgment on such grave matters, which does allow for her redemption if that'd be the case, because life is life and it's sacred.
It was somewhat of an accident though. "Stand still, devil", - Kaugha said, yet Arabella tried to run and was bitten in the attempt. Kaugha's still guilty, but she didn't explicitly order Teela to off Arabella.
I got this part by accident after saving Arabelle but forgetting to hand in her quest but seeing Halsin get very upset like this had me very confused until I realised what had happened
The voice actors and directors did such an amazing job in this game. Everyone gave it their all. And of course the animators deserve a round of applause too. Their work adds so much to these characters feeling alive
Kind of a shame that this dialogue only happens if you pretty much willingly let Arabella die. It's so intense, and it shows Halsin's commitment to the druid ideology and beliefs early on.
tbf I didn't think it was a 100% guarantee that Arabella would try to run regardless of what you do- so on my paladin I just followed accordingly to my oath and she still ran and got bit!
Yeah uh, it's easy to save her but just as easy to mess up if you follow a roleplay and pick riskier options with skill checks. I know two of my runs have a dead Arabella, one of which was unintended.
Early on in my first playthrough I spent so long trying to figure out how to push Kargha off that ledge that she stands by in the back of the Druid Grove without alerting the other druids only to realize that that is one of the very few chasms in the game that is an invisible wall.
im glad they rewrote this scene because it always threw his character off how in early access he showed leniency and still allowed kagha to remain in the grove all while calling what happened a "terrible misdeed" and that the grove still needed kagha's passion. like im sorry a passion for what? being ruthless and killing children? um ok halsin 😶 so im glad that he responds more appropriately for his character now
The child broke sacred Druid laws by going into their essential temple and stealing an idol. Druids are territorial, and all about plants and animals. More so then mortal life. Khaga is passionate about protecting nature and the grove. She didnt abide a theif. She also wanted to seal the grove off, so that the Goblins & Drow couldn't get inside and harm the grove. How do you all not see that?
@@phonicrose8395 Shadow druids are. Druids are also healers and caretakers of people, too. Murdering a child because she was trying to protect her people the druids had given shelter to and were about to drive out to certain death doesn't protect the balance of nature, either.
@@1steelcobra Druids are healers, and they will take care of people yes. But on the whole, they care mainly about plants and animals, not sentient people. Also, if you see the child as a protector. Then you have to see Kagha in the same way. Kagha wanted to protect her people, her den/temple, and nature as most groves have a STRONG amount of nature magic imbued to and tied to them. If say hypothetically a child ran into the Vatican and stole a very HOLY object like say the Holy Grail or something. Then not only would the people of the Vatican see it as a MASSIVELY unforgivable crime regardless of the reason. Most Christians on the planet would as well. Since it defiles a sacred place and an artifact. These people would feel this way even more so, if they knew that the church was providing safe harbor to said child before they ran into an off-limits sacred site and stole the artifact. If we look at the balance of nature aspect, there are PLENTY of living mortal creatures, and that Grove is a significant beacon of positive nature magic, unlike say the Hag's more deathy spin of fey magic. Making protection of the grove, more important then the life of one child in the grand scheme. Not to mention, that technically the Teifling refugees would still be SAFE inside of the briar walls. They would just have to STAY in the grove, until the druids felt it was safe and took the barrier down. Meaning that the little girl wasn't protecting anyone truly, just as they would've been safer inside the walls. She was just stopping them from being locked inside the safe barrier of the grove, that they were choosing to stay at for safety anyhow.
There are mountains of gold, entire planets of diamonds in the universe while only rare thing in entire universe is life! But simple minded people think metal or even paper worth more..
I mean, the child trespassed on sacred ground and stole a sacred relic. When it's a religous or sentimental object. Especially one that is needed for a ritual. It becomes far more then just some object.
Problem with that is despite how far she ends up falling, she genuinely cares about the grove, and her reasoning for joining the shadow druids is because she felt that Halsin wasn't doing enough to protect the grove from the growing dangers. She knew her actions were fucked up, but saw them as justified since it was in the name of protecting the grove - in her mind she was making the hard decisions Halsin refused to. Her actions are Evil but they're done in an attempt to protect the grove. And since the 'evil' option here is to side with the Goblins and destroy the grove, Kagha would NEVER be on board, and would die defending the grove as she usually does. And even if there was a new evil path that allowed you to spare the grove but not Halsin and the refugees - maybe something like conspiring with Kagha to turn the whole grove against the tieflings, then defeating the goblins + freeing Halsin, then having to kill him when he returns to the carnage and aggros - why would she leave the grove when she finally got the power she's been working towards for years before the player gets involved? Halsin all but admits he had one foot out the door already when he offered to join their camp, but Kagha has every reason to want to stay put.
She'd be an even greater for good walkthrough. There's zero character growth with Halsin and his writing becomes progressively worse. Kagha was a perfect contender for disgraced druid seeking redemption. We already have a bunch of failures in our Tav-train, she'd fit in just fine.
Honestly I don’t think I could stand her even on an evil playthrough. Evil is one thing, but on top of that she is arrogant, stubborn, rude, and just a foul person even to the other druids besides Halsin who has power over her. I don’t think there’s a single endearing trait about her.
@@melancholyentertainmentArrogant, stubborn, rude & just a foul person all around are descriptions that fit Lae'zel well before discovering that her queen ordered her killed for finding out secrets that she ain't supposed to, & to a lesser extent, Minthara too. Yet, Lae'zel turned out to be endearing all the same after that, & Minthara was revealed to be far more than the murder hobo that we first encountered. Kagha, if she truly realized the errors of her ways & actually wanted to become a better person, would have had a lotta room to grow by Tav's side, just like Lae'zel & Minthara. Whether she'll turn out to have endearing traits, is a just a matter of writing quality.
@@AlexZebolThe problem with wholesome goody-two-shoes characters who also are quite powerful. There's so little room left for them to grow in stories that they often end up being redundant side characters, especially when the protag & just about everyone else turn out to have a lot more going on with them. Much as i like Halsin, he's so utterly boring when compared to Minthara, & there's so little going on for him in act 3 that i kinda wish he'd just stay back in either the grove or the former shadow cursed lands at times.
*spoiler warning for Act 1* I believe this is the version that occurs if you successfully redeem Kagha from the shadow druid’s influence before saving the grove (she ends up realizing that it was a mistake and admitting responsibility for her actions, which I did not see coming) if Arabella survived, then Halsin lets her off pretty easy and she accepts him as the leader once again; but if Arabella dies then Halsin banishes her like you see here, regardless of whether or not she repented
@@estebanuniversidad6976 Oh yeah I killed her after exposing her on my first playthrough and saved Arabella and forgot to find Halsin in the camp so I never got that dialogue but on my second playthrough I went straight to the goblin camp and slaughtered half the camp with Halsin but I guess that was a no-no because Arabella died offscreen and Kagha was just completely unremorseful.
@@estebanuniversidad6976 If you didn't expose the shadow druid thing, she's clearly not remotely sorry when Halsin shouts at her and gives the impression she's going to try and murder everyone loyal to him and take over as soon as his back is turned. If you DID expose the shadow druids and she isn't dead, Kagha will clearly be EXTREMELY sorry when Halsin gives her a shouting at and express gratitude for a second chance if he gives it.
The first time yes, but when she just closes her eyes when Halsin says: *"I cannot absolve you, even if you are repentant."* I see that as her being resigned to what's coming, as though she's thinking to herself: *"Here it comes."* As she tries to brace herself for it, but when Halsin's chosen punishment is *EXILE* I believe it's worse than what Kagha was expecting. I feel like she may have been expecting a heavy demotion but still being allowed to stay in the grove, but the realization that she wouldn't eve be allowed to remain in the grove is what shocked her to her core and really drove home just how badly she had screwed up.
the difference between the grace he extends to kagha if arabella survives and the unrestrained vitriol when she doesn't is staggering....really shows how much he values his people
@@j42827this is up there with the good/bad choices in the witcher, not knowing or think you know which is right or wrong but you find out after and it's too late to fix it
0:43-0:45 Kagha rolls her eyes. If I was Halsin, I would just gone bear mode and maul her for that alone. Halsin: "DID YOU JUST ROLL YOUR EYES! THAT IS IT!" *Turns into a bear* Kagha: "MERCY! MERCY!" Halsin: *As a bear* "Mercy is bestowed by nature, not me." *Attacks*
Look at Kagha's bootlicking. She's all "I'm in charge now, drive the devils out, don't speak his name!" when Halsin is away. But when Halsin arrives she's all "I beg your grace."
I was a druid in my first playthrough. I was furious with the grove and how they were treating the refugees and quickly caught on that Kagha was a power-hungry bitch. In the end though I was more angry the druids didn't stand up to defend the grove when the goblins came. THIS WAS EVERYTHING we were supposed to stand for. I had done so much to stop the shadow druids from winning. But in the end I was the only druid on the wall. Proclaiming that "THIS GROVE IS SACRED, THE ABSOLUTE HAS NO PLACE HERE".
What do you mean with how they were treating refugees? Druids are not all this peace/love whatever. They gave them sanctuary in the grove, which was more then enough. The temple area essentially is a sacred area, that non druids or circle members aren't permitted. But that's not them harming the refugess. Also, closing off the grove doesn't mean them physically hurting the tieflings. They are protecting the grove and preventing outsiders from entering it. Presumably the Tieflings still could've stayed withing the boughs of the briar walls.
@@phonicrose8395 Thing is if you read the books and records you'll see even druids are opposed to the rite of thorns because it usually results in the circle's that used it imploding under their own tensions while this particular circle has a history of standing up against evil. Whether that be the great evil that cursed a land or settlers who are destroying everything. Kagha's approach is basically a rejection of everything their supposed to stand for and as mentioned above the Tieflings aren't actually the cults target its the druids and their idol because they think its the weapon from the Nautiloid. Halsin their first druid actually welcomed the refugee's initially and the tension is all Kagha ordering them to leave because the druids can't supply enough food from the lake and plants to support them.
@@phonicrose8395That presumably is doing a lot of heavy lifting and is actually wrong within the game setting They couldn’t have stayed for two reasons, reason 1, they are refugees, outsiders, and they actually want to reach Baldur’s Gate even before being kicked out, the Grove was a stop for sanctuary in the middle of the goblin and absolute mess, its “their camp” not “their home” Reason 2 and explained by Kagha, this whole mess was caused for “opening the grove to outsiders” (the tieflings) so why would the ritual in any way permit the tieflings to stay??? The game is very clear on them being thrown into the deadly roads because of it, the ritual is a deadline both because *they don’t want to stay indefinitely when tempers are this bad*, because the grove probably proved just as dangerous as the road considering Arabella could be dead by this point, AND because the ritual definitely involves the druids physically kicking them out/taking back their offer of sanctuary
Im on my first playthrough and got this conclusion unintentionally. I already saw clips of Kagha and the druids before i met her. Because of that, I stopped myself exploring the grove and b lined it to halsin because I wanted to see all the druid scenes with halsin in the party to see how he would react to it. It never occurred to me that time passed and by the time i got back, Arabella was dead and so was that teifling boy that was near the harpies. Didn't reload and accepted it. Sucks but the fact that any of this happened is crazy cool in its own right. Love baldur's gate 3
This is like one of those anime where the background characters look normal and then there's the main character who's casually embodying the entire spectrum of visible light.
The best part about this is that Halsin is like 15 times the size of literally everyone else. Bro is a bear regardless of whether or not he’s in wildshape.
i got this in my first play through because i couldn’t find where kagha was located, and i didn’t know arabella was taken in there - i went to the goblin camp without even talking to kagha & when i rescued halsin this was the dialogue 😅 imagine my confusion LMAO learning about arabella was a trip
Dave Jones is amazing. He can have the sweetest, soft spoken expression in his voice but then can also make you rumble in your boots in the same breath. And turn people on too, I guess lol
In my first playthrough I was so eager to progress quickly that I missed the Druid circle entirely before rescuing Halsin and had no clue what child he was mad about 😅
Goblins don't count. The good Paladins oaths don't even break if you kill Goblin children(in combat, sneak attacking is oathbreaking). Druids are much less bound by rules/morality than oathsworn Paladins.
Halsin: Whatever happens to you is the Oak Father’s Will. My Tav: Hi! I’ll be playing the part of the Oak Father’s Will. Would you prefer immolation, laceration, or defenestration?
Felt like he was way too soft on Kagha for me though I saved the cute tiefling but still made the effort to find out how Kagha was a shadow Druid and he just sent her back to bottom of the Druid ladder.
The shadow druid philosophy seeping into the grove is very cleverly done. Most people are not familiar with the different DND druid philosophies and even less would be familiar enough with the specific tenets of Silvanus and Cloakwood. For an average person, stumbling into the druid grove at the beginning of the game, it would not seem out of place at all for a group of secluded nature loving hermits to be distrustful of outsiders. Surely it is possible for a group to feel so strongly about protecting their own that they decide to cast the "ultimate xenophobia" spell, right?
They really have a contingency for almost everything, don't they? Except, weirdly, rescuing Lae'zel before Shadowheart. (Shart still says 'she's abandoned us!' 🤦♂️)
@@ExileTwilight and yet, there are entire scenes if you ignore her all together and instead find her at the grove or the goblin camp. So they clearly did plan for that.
In this version you can see she doesn't care at all, her animal partner Teela has better morals and can see reason if you talk to her and she's an ACTUAL viper 🤨. Also if anyone else plays druid and wants to really lean into the Faithwarden thing, the mod Druids Unleashed is a must, while it does amp up your character you can still die pretty quick even on Story Mode, and I have Dragonborn Unleashed with it too 😅. Both are on NEXUS. I hope someone makes a Dragonborn cosmetic mod soon, I'd love more horn and tail options.
If the shadow druid angle has been exposed, she's extremely sincere in her contrition when she's being shouted at, you DID actually make her think about what a monster she'd turned into.
The viper is also against theives. The only REAL difference, is that the Viper is open to other opinions. Because you can simply explain that Arabella is a child who doesn't know not to steal really. Which makes the Viper chill out, because the child is believed to not been tought proper morals from it's parents yet.
when Kagha was confronting Arabella my Tav Paladin stept in: Bro, I'm the embodiment of justice here. Shut up and let me hear her defense. I spared her. She was just scared and just trying to survive.
glad to see this here because i wouldn't have it in me to let her die just too see. but man i expected him to be mad but dude had the rage of a barbarian there oof
In all my campaigns Halsin is really chill to her, which i mean makes which was cool with me (i play either a barbarian/druid, monk/sorcerer, or warlock/wizard) since most of my characters are down to earth kind people. but dang seeing him get angry you can literally hear the wraith of nature in his voice. such a good game.
THAT’S WHAT I’M SAYING! I always turn on non-lethal during that fight so I can knock out the kids before Halsin gets to them…which is also pretty terrible to be honest but it’s better than them calling for backup
i love how in every cutscene where kagha is found out or gets her comeuppance she becomes overly apologetic, struggling to find excuses for her actions like a child getting caught misbehaving, showing that she doesnt have a backbone or any beliefs she actually held for herself. At the end she was never the cunning viper she thought, she was just a squirming worm terrified that a child might step on her
I absolutely love how halsin embodies being a druid so much, talking about how the idol is nothing compared to the life of a child, and how grace is bestowed by nafure, not him. Such amazing writing
What else you could expect from man who likes ducks
Fr, like first thing I thought when the Tieflings mentioned the druids were forcing them out I was like "wait what?? Druids???"
@@madmouse1016 then it all makes sense when you learn that Kahga is being influenced by shadow druids
@@lem0nad3z yeah I heard about that, didn't learn about it myself, but saw other people mention it. Does make sense after finding that out
@@lem0nad3z Sad thing is, you never actually have to find that out at all. There is nothing that i know of that even points you towards this unless you see the chest and think "oh, i'll steal something from this" and find the breadcrumb.
Halsin: *having the most sincere dialogue in his story line*
your Tav: 👁️👄👁️✨
Tav is inspired 😉
No thanks, I rather sleep with Minthara as a male player xD
@@coops1992become female playeer theen
@@schabowy6149 Me, a female player obsessed with my lesbian girlfriend Minthara: *quietly sips wine*
Missing out
DAAAAAMN.
"It would have been easier if you just died, Kagha."
DAAAAMN HE'S
P I S S E D.
She wasn't ready 😂
That shit hurt MY feelings
Low tier halsin
Holy shit, that's how you know Halsin was mad as hell
This is how you portray a true Good-aligned Druid. Someone who reveres all forms of natural life, whether that life belongs to a plant, an animal, or a person, all life is sacred and precious to them, and the choice to take a life is one not to be made lightly. To him, Life itself is the greatest treasure and gift bestowed by nature, not some religious idol or icon....especially when compared to the life of a child. That is where Kagha made her biggest mistake, viewing some idol, a mere lump of stone, as being more valuable than the life of a child.
Halsin: "Whatever happens to you next, know that it is the Oak Father's will."
Tav: *skids in and punches Kagha in the face*
Right after at the party, Arabella's parents poison Kagha. Then stab her. What's interesting is that Kagha has an antidote on her at all times, but it doesn't work apparently.
Suffice to say, Oakfather's will.
@dadab22 or maybe she just doesn't drink it? Also I doubt antidote has an effect on stabby stabbys
And I doubt she would have been stabby stabbied were it not for the paralysing poison
@@irregular_banana
Yeah you cant drink an antidote if you can't move, and she clearly didnt realise she was about to get got.
We can talk the parents down from killing her but if a Tav is passive to letting a kid die why would they step in to help her?
Halsin: A child is dead because of you!
Kahga: It was an accident; We were overzealous😢
The Other Druids: WE?!
"WHO'S WE? YOU SPEAKING FRENCH?"
There is def a we in there if you talk to the other druids there are a few who are in favor of what kahga was doing
@@gridlock2958"YOU wanted to murder children! *_I_* wanted to be in VR Chat!"
There's an annoying (halfling I think) who always agrees with Kagha no matter what it takes a lot of restraint not to punch her
@@DannyRayqu for me it was the elf dude that chills inside their little library hes completely unrepentant even if you expose the shadow druids
Halsin: "Whatever happens to you next, know that it is the Oak Father's will."
Dark Urge: "Execute order 66"
Astarion: *Rises from the shadow behind Kagha, grabbing her head and shoulder as he sinks his fangs in her, draining her of life.*
Karlach: “Astarion, you giant boob! Tav said Execute Order 66, not 86!”
There really is no reason for you to kill her. If Arabella's parents are alive for the party they murder her by the lake for there daughter. It is a sick sense of justice but one Khaga brought on herself.
power word: kill
@@Samuel-nj4yyokay but the satisfaction.... also the price money the other tiefling leader offered for her head
@@Samuel-nj4yy wdym no reason to kill her? I want my +15 exp. Yeah, I'm petty like that 😂
"We were overzealous!"
Sister, other druids were actively telling you to stop 😭
Rath was. Since druids supported kagha
I like how _"Grace is bestowed by nature, _*_not me._*_ "_ is the Druid equivalent of _"God forgives, _*_not me._*_ "_ 😂 beast mode scolding ☠️
"Forgiveness is between them and god. Its my job to arrange the meeting." Paladin Creasy. :)
@@JnEricsonx”I see you are ready to meet Kelemvor, be yee sure of thy actions for although Kelemvor is merciful and just, I am not. Raise a blade to me and I will strike you down” then pull out a great sword the hums with a necrotic green flame “The path of the righteous is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers and you will know My name is Death when I lay my vengeance upon thee
@@skyesmith5683 En Nomine Patris Et Fili, Et Spirictus Sante. ::holds up autographed copy of Boondock Saints::
I love how Kagha's excuse immediately falls apart, first claiming it was an accident, then contradicting herself by trying to justify it. It would be funny if the subject matter wasn't so grim.
Hell I’m sure Halsin would be even more severe knowing Kagha was going to essentially sell out the grove to the shadow druids, but I don’t think that route allows for Kagha to be spared for the discussion.
its ridiculous because the goblins werent even there for the refugees, they were specifically there to raid the grove and kill the druids in search of the gith artifact. If they hadnt been such exclusionary bigots, they could have worked together to save themselves. They were the only ones stopping the druids from being slaughtered.
Hell you even find a letter in Thorm's rooms where he made contact with the shadow druids promising power if they spread their influence with the groves, all to sow discord with among the druids to isolate them and keep them stuck up their own asses in neutral gear, unwilling to oppose him as "he's just focused on people", right uptil the point they were the last ones on the list for him to eliminate. If one grove got massacred, the others wouldnt find out until it was too late.
@@Ratty524 Get Arabella killed, then redeem Kagha during the shadow druid confrontation? You need to be a druid yourself or have some other prerequisite to convince her
elves am i right
It was still an accident as it was snake itself who attacked her. She didn't gave the command, she wanted Arabella imprisoned, not killed.
I was always curious on what Halsin’s reaction would be should Arabella get killed by Kagha. Not only this answers my curiosity, but man! This reaction from Halsin is more than satisfying.
I refuse to let Arabella die in any of my playthroughs. So this video helps~
Same I can't see an arch druid going at a mere child and do nothing, but personally I feel like this speech is so much better than when you save Arabella.
@@ArthurLocatelli It honestly is. Part of me wishes Halsin would've just outright banished Kagha, regardless. Since she was willing to put the Grove in danger, killing the refugees within it, and forsake the ideals the Grove was built on.
Kagha is lucky that I've allowed her to live in my playthroughs. However, that might change since I want to witness what it's like playing as a Durge...
I'm sure if you do the shadow druid side quest, you can just not persuade Kagha to repent and you can axe her in the fight with the rest of the shadow druids, no problem.@@ChocolateLoveKitten
@@thewick-j1837 Oh this I’m completely aware of. Just find the thought of doing it as a Durge more fun, in my eyes.
@@ChocolateLoveKittenoh, just killed her today as Durge. Good Durge, but not THAT good.
It was nice, nicer than killing poor Alfira.
Kagha: “We were overzealous, yes, but-“
Halsin: “WE? Who’s WE?! You speakin’ French?!”
YOU WANTED TO BE HERE I WANTED TO BE IN MOONRISE!
Halsin’s amazing. He can be both kind and sincere and brutally terrifying. It’s crazy how she was his second in command and yet there are years between them in wisdom and humbleness.
Halsin embodies the phrase "Fear the wrath of a patient man."
Halsin's a great character for sure. My only problem with him is a gameplay bug where his follow behaviour will randomly break, that's my only issue with him and that's hardly the character's fault.
It's an issue with any character, not just Halsin@@businesscasualsauron
Feel like the whole "being a freaking giant of a man with bulging muscles" helps with the terrifying part...
@@humrH2360Found another quote sort of like this which I find funny but pretty true.
"You can't truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of great violence. If you aren't capable of violence, you aren't peaceful. You're harmless. Important distinction."
Halsin is truly peaceful. Even after condemning her like this he chooses exile over violence- though he is very capable of the latter option.
The worst part: *even the snake that Kagha uses to kill Arabella thinks it's the wrong thing to do!* If you're a druid with Speak With Animals on, you can tell it that Arabella's only a kid and it'll go "damn I didn't know... that's messed up!" and it will talk Kagha down for you.
Says something like "nestlings frequently have poor judgement". But if you're not a druid the snake tells you to fuck off.
Tav: “she died of natural causes”
Shadowheart: “you pushed her off a cliff!”
Tav: “gravity is natural”
If your Tav is drow that's answer have so many sense.
A naturally-formed cliff.
is it not natural to die from a broken neck?
Halsin: "it was the Oak Father's will for you to intervene."
Let's be real none of your companions except halsin would be upset. In fact shadow would probably use the gravity is natural line while tav stares off in to space not listening to halsin rant.
Halsin: SHE WAS JUST A CHILD
Also Halsin: *absolutely destroys One and Three*
Goblin lives don't matter I guess.
This kids were harming him and enjoyed it
Goblins aren't people just like (half) orcs.
simple as
Halsin :it wouldve been easier if you died
Durge: that can be arranged
I think the only thing that makes halsin more angry than this is destroying the grove, this is halsin almost at his worst
Or his best, depending on perspective ;) Daddy Halsin getting all riled up in defense of Arabella is a thing to behold.
Whole grove destroyed: oh no not again, oh well... One innocent child died: I'm gonna end her whole career!
@@tianshuhuang5431 No. Halsin confronts you in a fight to the death over the grove. Kagha is exiled for this.
@@bearhugzfam649i suppose "at his mist severe" would be the most accurate
@@tianshuhuang5431The child is not innocent though. She stole a sacred idol.
Being a theif is not the same as being innocent.
Not to mention, that she stole it while being a guest on Druid land.
His dialog is so different here. My first play though I was a Druid and convinced Kagha to turn back to the light during the battle against the evil druids. Halsin’s response had some similar lines but he tried to give her a second chance. But as soon as a child is killed, he shows no forgiveness
There's a huge difference between if you did or didn't expose the shadow druid angle, which I love. She says similar things when she's being shouted at, but if she's been exposed then she means the apologies HARD.
I was Paladin when I fought the shadow druids and convinced her to turn away from them
WHAT EVIL DRUIDS
Wait hold up, evil druids?
Thats such a cool little side story i didnt even know existed until my 3rd or 4th playthrough.
Convinced her to turn back and her apology to Halsin when he returned completely changed with how sincere she was and realized she fucked up.
Halsin: you KILLED a CHILD
Kagha: 🎤🎶everybody makes mistakes🎶
Everybody has those days 🎤🎵
His love for nature and life was why he was angry and also why he spared Kagha's life, a true druid indeed!
Druids are also about protecting their people, their rituals, and their groves/dens.
While also maintaining population control.
Khaga is just as much a druid in that sense as well.
They just have different morals.
@@phonicrose8395 nope
@@destroyerofnirn3537 Yes, try knowing the actual DnD lore you dingus.
@@phonicrose8395 nope, wrong
He's not wrong. @@destroyerofnirn3537
Halsin: Whatever happens to you next, know that it is the Oak Father's will.
Durge: *[Flashes Kagha a bloodthirsty grin]* Be seeing you later tonight~!
Or, my Durge is a resist type, but sometimes, violence is a tool.
Halsin is such a great character
Kinda wanted to see him kill her as soon as she started making excuses tho
Same, although it would be hypocritical of him. He doesn’t take her life out of malice because then he’d have sunk as low as her. A hero at heart indeed.
@@dharmeshmistry342thats what IM here for. I fuck Kagha's shit up every time
He still hopes and has the slightest belief that Kagha will repent and be the Druid she's supposed to be. He wants to punish her for her grave mistake but that hope made him resort to banishing her.
If he does think that Kagha cannot repent, he will kill her. This is why Halsin shows 0 pity to Goblins and resort to violence at mere sight of them, because he does not see that Goblins can be kind and live in harmony with nature.
"Nature will be your grace after you catch these hands, snakebitch."
He really is and it's sad that the gamers' thirst for his physique overshadows his personality. He is exactly what a wise, caring archdruid should be. I love that he's not some dictator who strikes her down, he is the Oak father's servant and only their god should pass judgment on such grave matters, which does allow for her redemption if that'd be the case, because life is life and it's sacred.
"It was an accident."
How do you accidently tell your snake to kill a child?
It was somewhat of an accident though. "Stand still, devil", - Kaugha said, yet Arabella tried to run and was bitten in the attempt. Kaugha's still guilty, but she didn't explicitly order Teela to off Arabella.
She didnt, its a made up narrative. There is literally not a single proof that she commanded to attack. "But bro she is a druid!!!111".
bro pulled up with the whole camp 🤣
I got this part by accident after saving Arabelle but forgetting to hand in her quest but seeing Halsin get very upset like this had me very confused until I realised what had happened
What do you mean hand in her quest?! I didn't know there was a follow up!
I think you just have to talk to her parents... but getting this reaction then is still weird@@oakenshadow6763
@@oakenshadow6763you have to check up on her near the Druid grove, she will give you a necklace gale can…. “Eat” haha
@@oakenshadow6763its just talk to arabella's parent.
@@ranulphshieldwield7631 thank you!
You tell 'em, Papa Bear!
The voice actors and directors did such an amazing job in this game. Everyone gave it their all.
And of course the animators deserve a round of applause too. Their work adds so much to these characters feeling alive
Halsin the cuddly bear man being angry is really something!
Like a true bear Halsin goes from awe to oh yeah this thing can rip me apart.
Right? I love how dynamic his character is. Favorite romance by far and definitely one of my favorite characters.
Kind of a shame that this dialogue only happens if you pretty much willingly let Arabella die. It's so intense, and it shows Halsin's commitment to the druid ideology and beliefs early on.
Well said.
tbf I didn't think it was a 100% guarantee that Arabella would try to run regardless of what you do- so on my paladin I just followed accordingly to my oath and she still ran and got bit!
Yeah uh, it's easy to save her but just as easy to mess up if you follow a roleplay and pick riskier options with skill checks. I know two of my runs have a dead Arabella, one of which was unintended.
"I cannot absolve you, even if you are repentant."
Halsin, she literally just said "I killed a child yes, but...".
ngl i wont kill kagha just bc i want to see halsin sweeping the floor with her
Yeah it ends up being a thing if you want to try to save kagha or kill her for her items witch aren’t to bad
Early on in my first playthrough I spent so long trying to figure out how to push Kargha off that ledge that she stands by in the back of the Druid Grove without alerting the other druids only to realize that that is one of the very few chasms in the game that is an invisible wall.
im glad they rewrote this scene because it always threw his character off how in early access he showed leniency and still allowed kagha to remain in the grove all while calling what happened a "terrible misdeed" and that the grove still needed kagha's passion. like im sorry a passion for what? being ruthless and killing children? um ok halsin 😶 so im glad that he responds more appropriately for his character now
As it is now if you save the kid she basically gets demoted to being a new novice.
@@1steelcobrabecause she technically didn't cross the line yet
The child broke sacred Druid laws by going into their essential temple and stealing an idol.
Druids are territorial, and all about plants and animals. More so then mortal life.
Khaga is passionate about protecting nature and the grove. She didnt abide a theif. She also wanted to seal the grove off, so that the Goblins & Drow couldn't get inside and harm the grove.
How do you all not see that?
@@phonicrose8395 Shadow druids are. Druids are also healers and caretakers of people, too. Murdering a child because she was trying to protect her people the druids had given shelter to and were about to drive out to certain death doesn't protect the balance of nature, either.
@@1steelcobra Druids are healers, and they will take care of people yes. But on the whole, they care mainly about plants and animals, not sentient people.
Also, if you see the child as a protector. Then you have to see Kagha in the same way.
Kagha wanted to protect her people, her den/temple, and nature as most groves have a STRONG amount of nature magic imbued to and tied to them.
If say hypothetically a child ran into the Vatican and stole a very HOLY object like say the Holy Grail or something. Then not only would the people of the Vatican see it as a MASSIVELY unforgivable crime regardless of the reason. Most Christians on the planet would as well. Since it defiles a sacred place and an artifact. These people would feel this way even more so, if they knew that the church was providing safe harbor to said child before they ran into an off-limits sacred site and stole the artifact.
If we look at the balance of nature aspect, there are PLENTY of living mortal creatures, and that Grove is a significant beacon of positive nature magic, unlike say the Hag's more deathy spin of fey magic. Making protection of the grove, more important then the life of one child in the grand scheme.
Not to mention, that technically the Teifling refugees would still be SAFE inside of the briar walls. They would just have to STAY in the grove, until the druids felt it was safe and took the barrier down.
Meaning that the little girl wasn't protecting anyone truly, just as they would've been safer inside the walls. She was just stopping them from being locked inside the safe barrier of the grove, that they were choosing to stay at for safety anyhow.
insane how shes literally rolling her eyes when shes being scolded for MURDERING A CHILD
the sad glance back like that tigger gif actually made me laugh out loud
wish more people valued lives over objects
There are mountains of gold, entire planets of diamonds in the universe while only rare thing in entire universe is life! But simple minded people think metal or even paper worth more..
I mean, the child trespassed on sacred ground and stole a sacred relic.
When it's a religous or sentimental object. Especially one that is needed for a ritual. It becomes far more then just some object.
@@phonicrose8395again stop being such a relegious fanatic
@@sadsworth4605 It's not being a religious fanatic. How about you stop supporting disgusting thug behavior and thievery like a degenerate.
@@phonicrose8395you are insane if you think a child should die for trying to save her people from harm
They should have given Halsin more opportunities to get pissed off, his VA is killing it here
I think Kagha would've been a great option as a companion for an evil playthrough
Problem with that is despite how far she ends up falling, she genuinely cares about the grove, and her reasoning for joining the shadow druids is because she felt that Halsin wasn't doing enough to protect the grove from the growing dangers. She knew her actions were fucked up, but saw them as justified since it was in the name of protecting the grove - in her mind she was making the hard decisions Halsin refused to. Her actions are Evil but they're done in an attempt to protect the grove. And since the 'evil' option here is to side with the Goblins and destroy the grove, Kagha would NEVER be on board, and would die defending the grove as she usually does.
And even if there was a new evil path that allowed you to spare the grove but not Halsin and the refugees - maybe something like conspiring with Kagha to turn the whole grove against the tieflings, then defeating the goblins + freeing Halsin, then having to kill him when he returns to the carnage and aggros - why would she leave the grove when she finally got the power she's been working towards for years before the player gets involved? Halsin all but admits he had one foot out the door already when he offered to join their camp, but Kagha has every reason to want to stay put.
She'd be an even greater for good walkthrough. There's zero character growth with Halsin and his writing becomes progressively worse. Kagha was a perfect contender for disgraced druid seeking redemption. We already have a bunch of failures in our Tav-train, she'd fit in just fine.
Honestly I don’t think I could stand her even on an evil playthrough. Evil is one thing, but on top of that she is arrogant, stubborn, rude, and just a foul person even to the other druids besides Halsin who has power over her. I don’t think there’s a single endearing trait about her.
@@melancholyentertainmentArrogant, stubborn, rude & just a foul person all around are descriptions that fit Lae'zel well before discovering that her queen ordered her killed for finding out secrets that she ain't supposed to, & to a lesser extent, Minthara too. Yet, Lae'zel turned out to be endearing all the same after that, & Minthara was revealed to be far more than the murder hobo that we first encountered.
Kagha, if she truly realized the errors of her ways & actually wanted to become a better person, would have had a lotta room to grow by Tav's side, just like Lae'zel & Minthara. Whether she'll turn out to have endearing traits, is a just a matter of writing quality.
@@AlexZebolThe problem with wholesome goody-two-shoes characters who also are quite powerful. There's so little room left for them to grow in stories that they often end up being redundant side characters, especially when the protag & just about everyone else turn out to have a lot more going on with them.
Much as i like Halsin, he's so utterly boring when compared to Minthara, & there's so little going on for him in act 3 that i kinda wish he'd just stay back in either the grove or the former shadow cursed lands at times.
In my game Kagha stood her ground and said Halsin abandoned them.
*spoiler warning for Act 1*
I believe this is the version that occurs if you successfully redeem Kagha from the shadow druid’s influence before saving the grove (she ends up realizing that it was a mistake and admitting responsibility for her actions, which I did not see coming) if Arabella survived, then Halsin lets her off pretty easy and she accepts him as the leader once again; but if Arabella dies then Halsin banishes her like you see here, regardless of whether or not she repented
@@estebanuniversidad6976 Oh yeah I killed her after exposing her on my first playthrough and saved Arabella and forgot to find Halsin in the camp so I never got that dialogue but on my second playthrough I went straight to the goblin camp and slaughtered half the camp with Halsin but I guess that was a no-no because Arabella died offscreen and Kagha was just completely unremorseful.
@@estebanuniversidad6976 If you didn't expose the shadow druid thing, she's clearly not remotely sorry when Halsin shouts at her and gives the impression she's going to try and murder everyone loyal to him and take over as soon as his back is turned.
If you DID expose the shadow druids and she isn't dead, Kagha will clearly be EXTREMELY sorry when Halsin gives her a shouting at and express gratitude for a second chance if he gives it.
I love how kahga is literally rolling her eyes when halsin is scolding her as she really doesnt care haha
when she turned back, you can tell it wasnt to be like "please im sorry" and was more she wanted to say something spiteful
The first time yes, but when she just closes her eyes when Halsin says: *"I cannot absolve you, even if you are repentant."* I see that as her being resigned to what's coming, as though she's thinking to herself: *"Here it comes."* As she tries to brace herself for it, but when Halsin's chosen punishment is *EXILE* I believe it's worse than what Kagha was expecting. I feel like she may have been expecting a heavy demotion but still being allowed to stay in the grove, but the realization that she wouldn't eve be allowed to remain in the grove is what shocked her to her core and really drove home just how badly she had screwed up.
the difference between the grace he extends to kagha if arabella survives and the unrestrained vitriol when she doesn't is staggering....really shows how much he values his people
I could never let Arabella die
my dumbass didnt even get the chance to meet her :( I started the goblin raid before fully exploring the grove ah
it’s even more tragic knowing that if you do let her die.. her parents will live.. 😞
@@j42827this is up there with the good/bad choices in the witcher, not knowing or think you know which is right or wrong but you find out after and it's too late to fix it
@@j42827 Wait what? how?
@@TheRifild If Arabella dies in the grove her parents have no reason to go looking for her in the Shadow Cursed lands, so they stay alive.
0:43-0:45
Kagha rolls her eyes. If I was Halsin, I would just gone bear mode and maul her for that alone.
Halsin: "DID YOU JUST ROLL YOUR EYES! THAT IS IT!" *Turns into a bear*
Kagha: "MERCY! MERCY!"
Halsin: *As a bear* "Mercy is bestowed by nature, not me." *Attacks*
Look at Kagha's bootlicking. She's all "I'm in charge now, drive the devils out, don't speak his name!" when Halsin is away. But when Halsin arrives she's all "I beg your grace."
Well, seeing how he’s screaming at her right now, can ya blame her?
god halsins delievery of his lines right here are gut wrenching
Halsin's character is so well written. He truly represents his high wisdom stat!
I was a druid in my first playthrough. I was furious with the grove and how they were treating the refugees and quickly caught on that Kagha was a power-hungry bitch. In the end though I was more angry the druids didn't stand up to defend the grove when the goblins came. THIS WAS EVERYTHING we were supposed to stand for. I had done so much to stop the shadow druids from winning. But in the end I was the only druid on the wall. Proclaiming that "THIS GROVE IS SACRED, THE ABSOLUTE HAS NO PLACE HERE".
What do you mean with how they were treating refugees?
Druids are not all this peace/love whatever. They gave them sanctuary in the grove, which was more then enough.
The temple area essentially is a sacred area, that non druids or circle members aren't permitted. But that's not them harming the refugess.
Also, closing off the grove doesn't mean them physically hurting the tieflings. They are protecting the grove and preventing outsiders from entering it.
Presumably the Tieflings still could've stayed withing the boughs of the briar walls.
@@phonicrose8395 Thing is if you read the books and records you'll see even druids are opposed to the rite of thorns because it usually results in the circle's that used it imploding under their own tensions while this particular circle has a history of standing up against evil. Whether that be the great evil that cursed a land or settlers who are destroying everything. Kagha's approach is basically a rejection of everything their supposed to stand for and as mentioned above the Tieflings aren't actually the cults target its the druids and their idol because they think its the weapon from the Nautiloid. Halsin their first druid actually welcomed the refugee's initially and the tension is all Kagha ordering them to leave because the druids can't supply enough food from the lake and plants to support them.
@@phonicrose8395 take the shadow druid dick out
@@phonicrose8395That presumably is doing a lot of heavy lifting and is actually wrong within the game setting
They couldn’t have stayed for two reasons, reason 1, they are refugees, outsiders, and they actually want to reach Baldur’s Gate even before being kicked out, the Grove was a stop for sanctuary in the middle of the goblin and absolute mess, its “their camp” not “their home”
Reason 2 and explained by Kagha, this whole mess was caused for “opening the grove to outsiders” (the tieflings) so why would the ritual in any way permit the tieflings to stay??? The game is very clear on them being thrown into the deadly roads because of it, the ritual is a deadline both because *they don’t want to stay indefinitely when tempers are this bad*, because the grove probably proved just as dangerous as the road considering Arabella could be dead by this point, AND because the ritual definitely involves the druids physically kicking them out/taking back their offer of sanctuary
Oak Father preserve you, my fellow protector of Nature. 🌳✨
"Whatever happens next know it is the oak father's will"
Why do I hear Astarion getting a murder high from this?
I can hear his thoughts: "Well, well, I guess there's at least ONE reason to like him..."
For how little he gets to show it, his voice actor is one of the best in the game, he crushes this role.
Im on my first playthrough and got this conclusion unintentionally. I already saw clips of Kagha and the druids before i met her. Because of that, I stopped myself exploring the grove and b lined it to halsin because I wanted to see all the druid scenes with halsin in the party to see how he would react to it. It never occurred to me that time passed and by the time i got back, Arabella was dead and so was that teifling boy that was near the harpies. Didn't reload and accepted it. Sucks but the fact that any of this happened is crazy cool in its own right. Love baldur's gate 3
This is like one of those anime where the background characters look normal and then there's the main character who's casually embodying the entire spectrum of visible light.
He’s a druid and a Dad at heart 100% ❤
Halsin: now get out of my sight! There is nothing more to be said.
Tav: 🤡
Lmao
The best part about this is that Halsin is like 15 times the size of literally everyone else.
Bro is a bear regardless of whether or not he’s in wildshape.
i got this in my first play through because i couldn’t find where kagha was located, and i didn’t know arabella was taken in there - i went to the goblin camp without even talking to kagha & when i rescued halsin this was the dialogue 😅 imagine my confusion LMAO learning about arabella was a trip
Seeing Halsin mad it's really something
"Grace is bestowed by nature, not me" has the same energy as "I believe you, BUT MY TOMMYGUN DON'T!"
Kagha: "Little Arabella's death.. Whatever happened there.."
Halsin: "WHATEVER HAPPENED THERE!?"
I understood that reference.
Her walking away was very “sad ant with bindle” core
Dave Jones is amazing. He can have the sweetest, soft spoken expression in his voice but then can also make you rumble in your boots in the same breath. And turn people on too, I guess lol
Halsin giving off some serious Daddy vibes
His VA killed it dude. They had great direction in the VA department for BG3.
ok like this is a great scene, super emotional, well-written, well-acted, well-directed
but
also
Halsin is sexy as hell when he's angry omfg
The scene is especially fun if your durge character is the one responsible for the "accident"
Could never let Arabella die....but dang this scene!! Tree Daddy is maaaaad. Thanks for showcasing this otherwise scene I would have missed out on.
Halsin, channeling someone from a different universe, and a different year: "YOU BLOODY ARROGANT FOOL!!!"
Daaamn never got this cut scene but holy shit the voice actor earned his keep for that performance
In my first playthrough I was so eager to progress quickly that I missed the Druid circle entirely before rescuing Halsin and had no clue what child he was mad about 😅
"It was an accident." - You know what's also an accident, Kagha? You. :)
"A child is dead!"
Meanwhile Tav who just got done killing about 6 goblin children in their camp as well as their parents, siblings and friends: 😮
Goblins don't count. The good Paladins oaths don't even break if you kill Goblin children(in combat, sneak attacking is oathbreaking). Druids are much less bound by rules/morality than oathsworn Paladins.
You've never seen goblin slayer huh😅
I seem to recall killing only two goblin children. And if memory serves, they were gleefully torturing a caged bear.
Halsin: Whatever happens to you is the Oak Father’s Will.
My Tav: Hi! I’ll be playing the part of the Oak Father’s Will. Would you prefer immolation, laceration, or defenestration?
Or, in my Durge's example, HAMMAR!
Kagha acting all tough and above Halsin when he's not around, then being all scared when he returns
Honestly its tempting to let Arabella die just because Halsins reaction to Kagha normally is so underwhelming
There’s also the detail he mentioned that in his bear form he is much more ruthless, and that him as a bear attacks any goblins at all-
This woman only cares that she got in trouble, not that a life was lost. She's a true psychopath. Not to mention her _arrogance._
Seeing Halsin this angry is legitimately scary. Yeesh.
The anger of a good man is not in question. :)
Oh good, now I don't need to let the kid die just to see what he says
Thanks for that 👍
Felt like he was way too soft on Kagha for me though I saved the cute tiefling but still made the effort to find out how Kagha was a shadow Druid and he just sent her back to bottom of the Druid ladder.
Kagha: Halsin, listen! I started the rite of thorns becau-
Halsin: ⚡👨🏾⚡
i love your character's design!!
Durge: the oak father told me to slide this sword in between your ribcage!
The shadow druid philosophy seeping into the grove is very cleverly done. Most people are not familiar with the different DND druid philosophies and even less would be familiar enough with the specific tenets of Silvanus and Cloakwood. For an average person, stumbling into the druid grove at the beginning of the game, it would not seem out of place at all for a group of secluded nature loving hermits to be distrustful of outsiders. Surely it is possible for a group to feel so strongly about protecting their own that they decide to cast the "ultimate xenophobia" spell, right?
Plus the part where she isn't actually repentant. Kagha doesn’t apologize until *after* she Arabella's mom enacts the viper justice she preached.
They really have a contingency for almost everything, don't they? Except, weirdly, rescuing Lae'zel before Shadowheart. (Shart still says 'she's abandoned us!' 🤦♂️)
Considering Shadowheart is literally right in front of you when you start... It would seem odd to account for that.
@@ExileTwilight and yet, there are entire scenes if you ignore her all together and instead find her at the grove or the goblin camp. So they clearly did plan for that.
In this version you can see she doesn't care at all, her animal partner Teela has better morals and can see reason if you talk to her and she's an ACTUAL viper 🤨. Also if anyone else plays druid and wants to really lean into the Faithwarden thing, the mod Druids Unleashed is a must, while it does amp up your character you can still die pretty quick even on Story Mode, and I have Dragonborn Unleashed with it too 😅. Both are on NEXUS. I hope someone makes a Dragonborn cosmetic mod soon, I'd love more horn and tail options.
The viper has more morals than a she-elf. Which is deeply amusing considering Kagha is a sociopath and a monster I hated her the moment I saw her.
Thanks, I am playing a druid, have to take a look at that.
If the shadow druid angle has been exposed, she's extremely sincere in her contrition when she's being shouted at, you DID actually make her think about what a monster she'd turned into.
The viper is also against theives.
The only REAL difference, is that the Viper is open to other opinions. Because you can simply explain that Arabella is a child who doesn't know not to steal really.
Which makes the Viper chill out, because the child is believed to not been tought proper morals from it's parents yet.
I love that Arabella becomes Silvanus' chosen.
when Kagha was confronting Arabella my Tav Paladin stept in: Bro, I'm the embodiment of justice here. Shut up and let me hear her defense.
I spared her. She was just scared and just trying to survive.
It's always the quiet, wise, gentle ones you have to watch out for. Halsin is proof of that.
"There's nothing more sacred than the life of a child"
- Halsin, who just mauled 3 goblin children to death 10 minutes ago
They don't caunt, are goblins.
😬 Kaghas facials as she walks away after getting told off 🤣
Halsin is scary when he gets pissed
glad to see this here because i wouldn't have it in me to let her die just too see. but man i expected him to be mad but dude had the rage of a barbarian there oof
In all my campaigns Halsin is really chill to her, which i mean makes which was cool with me (i play either a barbarian/druid, monk/sorcerer, or warlock/wizard) since most of my characters are down to earth kind people. but dang seeing him get angry you can literally hear the wraith of nature in his voice. such a good game.
Seeing Halsin mad just hits different, he's just so devastatingly disappointed even I felt a knot in my chest 😰
That's a lot of companions in your party
Halsin: *this cutscene*
Also Halsin: *kills goblin children without hesitation*
Fuck theme goblin kids
THAT’S WHAT I’M SAYING!
I always turn on non-lethal during that fight so I can knock out the kids before Halsin gets to them…which is also pretty terrible to be honest but it’s better than them calling for backup
As Anakin once said "They are like animals!"
I didn't even know about goblin children in the game.
@FlyJonat yeah, the little shits throwing rocks at Halsin when he's caged in the goblin camp. I think they're literally called one, two and three.
i love how in every cutscene where kagha is found out or gets her comeuppance she becomes overly apologetic, struggling to find excuses for her actions like a child getting caught misbehaving, showing that she doesnt have a backbone or any beliefs she actually held for herself. At the end she was never the cunning viper she thought, she was just a squirming worm terrified that a child might step on her
It really is a shame halsin doesn’t become more prominent or interesting after act 2 I mean he’s involved in act 2 but act 3 there’s nothing for him.
There might be new updates for that, hopefully.
And hopefully the DLC will have some more.
me during this entire scene: YEAAAAH HALSIN YEAHHHH!!! WOO TREE DADDY!! YELL AT HER!!!
he sounds a lot angrier than he is if arabella lives. From what i remember, he shouts much less if kagha doesn’t kill anyone.
Great dialogue and delivery.