I'd like to see a selection of buttons or levers for the octopuses to push so we can see if they have a musical preference or if they just like the off button.
now thats the test! buttons for choices. also with a silence, and an human audible book. give a solitary octo several options. i bet we see extreme differences, just like we have. then later, maybe a drum set...scratch board...sax....you know, see where this goes.
Or difference buttons for daily different music, depending on his mood, with one button per genre. Or a music app, for "music of squid", he can play self Musik.
YAAAASSSSS!!! Do it!!! That would be neat. We are working with our talented performing flock of parrots (whom we are also studying) on learning to use toddler musical & electronic toys to learn colors, numbers, etc & have a friend running a parrot study on teaching parrots to read. We feel octopi are also highly intelligent in more ways than we currently understand. But we do think this is a skill they can learn, levers & buttons, maze navigation, recovering good items from objects it’s hidden in, & I’d love to see object recognition & classification like Dr Pepperberg did with Alex the African Gray, except on octopusi. He was able to distinguish what color and material items were made out of, what shapes and what categories they could be lumped together in. Astonishing progress was made on understanding more about parrot intelligence cuz of this study.
I wonder if the experiment would have been better if they both had somewhere to hide. Putting them in a completely empty tank is a bit unnatural. They have nowhere to go. If they had a hidey hole, then you could see if they wanted to come out of not.
Its a copyrights issue so they couldn't just choose anybody song specially a major artist the video would have been taking down. But wasn't nothing wrong with some of them instrumentals some had some good vibes to them
@@erickreyes351 Well, I'm not sure why we should assume octopuses don't have taste. I mean, it might make a real difference to a scientific study whether they are being played good music or bad music.
What we're observing in that tank is the product of five-hundred million years of evolutionary biology. If octopi had a need for rhythm, then it's likely they would have already invented music long before any upright-walking primates had the chance.
U need one thing: 1. A switch or something they can interact with to turn the music on/off. Or at least something they can hide in so you can see if they dislike the music when they hideaway or if they are interested when they come out.
I was thinking the same thing. It would be easier to tell if they don't like it if they can hide from the music. Also it was hard to tell if Arnold wanted to get closer to feel the music more or if he just wanted to get past the wall and break the speaker, since I've seen him break things when he's mad. lol
This makes me quite frustrated as octopus spend more than 80% of their time hidden in small dark spaces. They do not prefer open water let alone brightly lit tanks with nowhere to hide and nowhere to go to escape the music. I’m sure they experienced considerable amounts of stress. This is just plain terrible.
interesting how they gravitate to the divider for some music and move as far away as they can from other music. They both seemed to quite like the cinematic/dark music. They really have different tastes in music. That was fun to watch.
As a diver, I can tell you that sound under water, is coming from all directions. Most of the time, it appeared that these octopi were looking for a direction to swim in to get away from the noise. I believe this is worth noting; marine life can also pick up on sounds from above the surface. Once when I was aboard a ship and sailing near the Western coast of Australia, I was on deck with a few other guys and we were jamming. Shortly after we started, a school of dolphin swam along side us and followed us, jumping out of the water as they did. They followed us as long as we kept playing. When we stopped, they swam away.
@@jessikapiche6097 Actually. this was in 1980. We were just jamming on some of our favorite tunes at the time. Led Zeppelin, Cars, Ted Nugent, Pat Travers. and so on. We were in the Navy and aboard the USS Independence.
@@jessikapiche6097 Thank you, and I salute your service also. Canada is a beautiful country. I believe Dolphins just love music in general, they don't seem to be too picky.
You know, i was thinking, they should have a video in which a band of musician play a song and 3 dolphins came and start singing too... Ok i should stop drinking... ;)
Is "ambient" even a genre? I would have classified it as contemporary choral. I noticed they both sat on the wall with arms in all directions appearing relaxed. Maybe try more choral music without percussion?
It's interesting to see that both octopuses have different tastes in music. This shows that these creatures have reached a level of intelligence to which they have developed personalities
OK video. Some of my friends and I tried this during our Marine Biology class. We used soft, slow music. We placed a low-volume speaker on the opposite end of the aquarium approximately 8 inches from aquarium. Roughly 11 minutes in, all 5 of them had traveled from the rocks they were amongst, to the speaker end. 3 of them weirdly ran their tentacles over the glass. When we moved the speaker to the other end, all 5 returned to the other end within 4 minutes. Their were other people who did this same experiment/study decades before we tried.
Tchaikovsky would also be good. I think the treble would make a difference.. most of these had a strong bass (at least what we heard). Maybe also something from the 1940s. (for the sake of the experiment, I think it would be easy to get free licensing to do short clips if needed)
@@tonicastel2390 I love the version Glenn Gould did 1981. (It's so good, I don't even mind the 'humming' and other noises he makes while he's playing.)
Don’t forget Debussy and Ravel! So much of the impressionist music is fluid in motion, on piano pedaling blends the harmonies like watercolor painting.
Is it just me, or the one on the left, pardon that I can't recall the name, seems to go closer to the speakers when the beat of the song is more pronounced? Did anybody else notice that? Also, good choice with Chtulthu at the end there. What would be more interesting is to hear these songs the way they would, maybe using an underwater microphone, since I am sure water distorts these a lot.
yep the bigger one seemed to like bumpy rhythmic music so bigger drum beat music. when it was too chaotic like death metal type stuff he was put off by it. then he camps his body right on top the speaker there to i assume fully feel the rhythm of the drums. my god they should play him some tool so he can meet his spirit brother danny carry's drum playing.
Yep, I saw that. He's definitely more into rock and she's into jazz lol! I love this experiment, it makes their thought processes seem even more human. They definitely have different "likes" (I am trying not to anthropomorphise too much!)
Yes, I noticed that as well. The one on the left responded more to a distinctive beat and lower tones while Lisa on the right just seemed to be fluttering (dancing). Disappointed that there was no high tones as in violins in classical music. Would love to have seen their reaction to a. It of Mozart or Haydn.
This is just an experimental tank that these octopuses are temporarily put in. They have their own homes in their separate tanks with coral reefs and "gardens."
It is difficult to interpret their reactions - are they excited or are they trying to escape the sound waves? The most interesting reactions were to the "ambient" music track. I'd like to see how they react to traditional gregorian chant, and real classical music. It would also be instructive to see how they react to specific instruments. My own thought from watching this video is that they seem to react best to music that moves at mostly the same pace as themselves. The sea is also full of noise - including clicks - so do octopus react to staccato noises in alarm or as if it was prey? The reactions in the video were difficult for a lay person to interpret
These reactions are similar to humans - we usually like chill tunes which are neither too fast nor too slow. But when we listen to fast-paced tunes, our hearts beat faster. For example, dance, march, cinematic, or scary music, since we think that some kind of action will take place. I also noticed the octopi running around and changing colors when fast music is played.
I felt also that the octopuses didn't have enough space to express their mood through motion, banging against the sides as soon as they start swimming (away?) They are not given anything to hide into or play with etc. Why was it important that they could not see each other? was there any real study behind this experiment or was it just an excuse for a video?
I totally agree. The selections were too much like each other. The "classical" piece really wasn't. I'd like to see how they react to Mozart, who is a favorite among more people in the classical genre than anyone else. I'd like to see how they react to Bach. Can they distinguish pitches? So much to explore.
Laughed pretty hard at that. I wouldn't be surprised if some sound combinations make them feel dizzy or confused. It seemed like the left-side one was interested in strong beats. I'd guess it's just the vibration.
If you are interested in seeing if there is a range of responses, you must choose music that is very different in how its put together from example to example, such as very different instrumentation/frequency range, vocal vs instrumental, percussion and no percussion, ONLY percussion and also western and non western music, etc etc. The range of "genres" here is actually very limited.... and the music you labeled classical is NOT classical music in the sense that most people understand it. But the more important problem is that there is too much similarity in the dominant frequencies and patterns, looking at it from just a sonic point of view. As someone pointed out, if they had a choice of music, and even MORE importantly, a choice of IF and WHEN to listen to music, then you would really get a sense for their true preference. I like the basic idea here...however in some ways it is a bit too much like the experiment conducted everyday on people who live in apartments, who are subjected to a wide range of... sonic experiences from their neighbors, and, like the poor boy in the left side tank, wish to hurl themselves at the offending noise. And finally, give them something that they can play, like a keyboard. And look out! Octomixx!!!
Yes, thank you, this "experiment" didn't actually show us anything. Different frequencies and ranges definitely should have been a factor especially since sound travels differently in water.
I can’t tell if they like it or not.... the children’s music they both got closer to the speaker. I think they liked it OR they were looking for the off button. ❤️
When Arnold went to the speakers during the music with a solid beat was it because he liked the music or wanted to kill the speakers? They both spread their tentacles out during the dark cinematic music. Does this mean it stressed them out? Seeing their movements is one thing but figuring out what they are feeling is another. Fascinating, nonetheless.
@EccentricSage ...I saw that as extreme distress...the equivalent of "hiding under the blankets, in a foetal position..trying to shut the World out" for humans...I just wanted to "cuddle" them, and tell them "everything is going to be ok, it will stop soon".
I would guess that spreading out and slower movement is a good sign, signifying less fear of something trying to eat them. Curling up and sitting still would be to try and present as small and unnoticeable a target as possible.
Jo-Anna Hicks Last thing you want to do is put human traits on a completely non human animal. The only thing we have in common is an extraordinary intelligent and even then it is evolved in completely different ways. Apparently curling up is a way they shed. Honestly, this experiment was pretty poor, there’s nothing definitive going on here about whether or not the like the music, the vibration, or if they really notice at all. The music variety isn’t there either...
I suspect in the ambient piece they heard the loud, semi-random clicking/tapping noise as a potential threat or source of food to investigate. The only other piece I saw any possibly consistent reaction from the two was the children’s piece right before it, which was literally the only one with the slightest bit interesting going on musically. All the rest were just tedious and repetitive and probably of little real interest to either octopi or humans.
If I see them at a music festival, I'd recognize them like these types: the left one is the one running to the stage to be at the front row, but ONLY with the cool bands, and the right one is just chilling on a hill somewhere, enjoying herself from a distance, smoking a blunt because all is fine as long as we're here anyway 😄
Music has meaning to us due to a million reasons. The ocean is full of sounds, vibrations. I can imagine that most music sounds as interesting as a boat propeller under water.
Mary McMahon - Yes. Pointless, at least in methodology. I was waiting for at least a _little_ analysis, even if to just hear “we have no idea what they’re thinking, or how this is impacting them”. I know I’m anthropomorphizing, but my guess is the octapuses were thinking “when’s this hell gonna end?!”
I thought this video could have used an explanation at the end. Letting the viewers know exactly what each one was doing and how they reacted positively or negatively to each song and how it shows their differences in their likes of the music.
I think it is pretty obvious the reactions were mostly random and unconnected to the music. Which is no surprise, as I wouldn’t react to most of that music either. :)
@@tonicoles6831 yes, exactly. I don't know octopus body language well enough to identify moments of particular responses and what they might mean, I would have really liked a bit if a discussion at the end.
🐙 I don't know much about Octopus. 🐙 Do they actually 'hear' or do they 'feel' the vibrations? 🐙 I'm highly sensitive to certain sounds and half of these I couldn't listen to. 🐙 I'd love to hear an interview with each of these little characters to see how they felt about the experiment because I'm still a little in the dark, but thanks for sharing! 🐙
I'd like to see this study be taken a step further. Test their musical memory, see their reaction to songs they would become familiar with vs. songs they are new to hearing.
Or could just be just the normal movement behavior they randomly do anyway. One would need to run the test repeatedly to determine if there really is a distinct behavior pattern or not associated with the music.
@post boredom, I’m guessing it had to do with copyright claims. Although they could have just muted the sound, these songs were likely royalty-free, or something along those lines
I would like to see how they respond to 1 instrument at a time, only piano, harp, guitar, flute etc. because so much is going on in a song with many instruments. Also what would be their reaction to a woman singing vs a man singing...like an opera song or soft love song. Has anyone ever tried one of those mood machines that plays rain, babbling brooks and forest sounds etc?
Looks more like they were annoyed with the sound pressure in the water, and it looked like the one octopus on the left was trying to get at the source to get rid of it.
Exactly so. It has the same monotonous lack of any interesting melody, harmony, rhythm, dynamics, or emotion of the rest or the rhythm backing tracks played. They were all incredibly boring and monotonous.
The choice of music was from the experimenter’s “own garden” and taste, with no relevant variety... too much rock, just one fragment of classical (not the best choice even)... no chill out, no ethnic, instrumental, etc - which explains why the experiment looked like pure torture at time (Arthur shaped himself into a blob?!)
Inquisitor Shu I know... I know how hard it can be to go through life knowing that you’ll never reach a boomer’s sophistication... but, life’s never been fair.
Unless you see them doing the octopus, any response could be to the vibration created by the sound waves rather than any appreciation for the sound itself.
From 3:30 to 3:45 Liza does the CUTEST little movement where she curls up all het tentacles and does a little wiggle before she straightens them out again. Adorable!
If they are hearing what I'm hearing/feeling, then it all sounds like crap, due to the water slowing the driver down and causing a great amount of distortion.
I think you should have used more widespread "commercial" musicians (Beethoven for example). Also, I think it would have been nice to see how they responded to the speaker itself. See how they act when it's silent, then different sounds, then music. Seeing if they try to destroy it and during which cases could tell you more about their "Emotions"
Why do people keep saying this? They can't use recordings from labels or else they'll likely get copyright strikes. I'm sure they had songs they would like to have played, but are stuck with whatever generic royalty free songs they could find. That would also make the experiment repeatable for other labs.
@@funstuff2006 thats what I was saying, as someone whom has searched for royalty free songs i can attest to the fact that there are plenty of genres to choose from. You are implying that I am saying play whatever, I am not. Likewise, playing a song for its INTENDED purpose is what triggers copyright laws. Just look up why so many reaction videos get taken down. They dont have to play the entire song on camera but I'm not in the mood to explain this sorry.
Why didn't you play ANY songs with words/singing/lyrics? This seemed like you picked things that were a mishmash of several genres spliced together. From start to finish, it all sounded nearly identical. Looks like the result of which was a single, identical "mood".
I'd like to see a test where you have a snack in a container and the lid has several holes with only one big enough to fit the snack through I'd like to see how he solves the problem.
What colors do they turn when they're agitated? Octopuses communicate with each other and their environment using color changes. I've always heard the paler the octopus the happier...so what music makes both octopuses change colors?
The metal song at the end, they both started briefly flashing a dark red. Scared em a little I guess, songs invoking cthulu are a sign of a much larger octopus on the way.
I wonder what I just watched. During some of the songs, one or the other would just freeze in place. During others both would be mobile. Sometimes they would spread themselves to their full extent. When they did this, I wondered if they were making themselves into their best "ears". As if they were making a giant receiver of their bodies, like a big radar dish, or something similar. However, I am not a specialist, those were just my impressions. I also noticed that Liza was more active then Arnold at different times as though she liked a type of music that he didn't. One other observation that I made, human music tends to have a beat based on our heartbeats. Do Octopi have heartbeats also? If music were written based on their heartbeats, would they possibly react differently?
I'd like to see a selection of buttons or levers for the octopuses to push so we can see if they have a musical preference or if they just like the off button.
Yes!!! Now that's an idea worth putting to the test
now thats the test! buttons for choices. also with a silence, and an human audible book. give a solitary octo several options. i bet we see extreme differences, just like we have.
then later, maybe a drum set...scratch board...sax....you know, see where this goes.
Maybe a jukebox to put quarters in...
Or difference buttons for daily different music, depending on his mood, with one button per genre.
Or a music app, for "music of squid", he can play self Musik.
YAAAASSSSS!!! Do it!!! That would be neat. We are working with our talented performing flock of parrots (whom we are also studying) on learning to use toddler musical & electronic toys to learn colors, numbers, etc & have a friend running a parrot study on teaching parrots to read. We feel octopi are also highly intelligent in more ways than we currently understand. But we do think this is a skill they can learn, levers & buttons, maze navigation, recovering good items from objects it’s hidden in, & I’d love to see object recognition & classification like Dr Pepperberg did with Alex the African Gray, except on octopusi. He was able to distinguish what color and material items were made out of, what shapes and what categories they could be lumped together in. Astonishing progress was made on understanding more about parrot intelligence cuz of this study.
Genre: Country
*throws himself at wall head first*
I've done that.
Not good. 😟 Maybe that kind of waves length are not good to listen to if it drives them away from the sound.
Patricia Wolford: Sounds like it is. Its what we so called humans do best to the other living beings on this planet, as well to others.
Patricia Wolford
Hi! I was wondering if you lived in Florida 80-90's? Same name as a friend I've lost touch with. TY
I like how the second it started, they simultaneously noped away.
I wonder if the experiment would have been better if they both had somewhere to hide. Putting them in a completely empty tank is a bit unnatural. They have nowhere to go. If they had a hidey hole, then you could see if they wanted to come out of not.
I concur
Better yet - an ON/OFF switch.
Agree
They looked bored in those empty tanks, assaulted by all that music, which just has to be weird/irritating to them.
the only real reaction I saw was that they both moved close to the speakers when the childrens music came on.
Sure would have liked to see them react to REAL Classical music like Mozart, Beethoven, Bach etc. legit.
Rachmaninoff wasn't one of your top 3 mentions? Lol
Probably due to youtube copyright
It has to be non-copyrighted.
Lost in Prayer is real classical also.
@@anagaby2553 All these guys have been dead for hundreds of years. It's in the public domain.
This sounds like music chosen by someone who has never listened to music in his life. Nice idea, though.
Pretty sure they're stuck with the youtube audio library for copyright free stuff
It'll be royalty free
Its a copyrights issue so they couldn't just choose anybody song specially a major artist the video would have been taking down. But wasn't nothing wrong with some of them instrumentals some had some good vibes to them
Are we here for royalties or monitized videos or for science? You've got to risk it for the biscuit
@@erickreyes351 Well, I'm not sure why we should assume octopuses don't have taste. I mean, it might make a real difference to a scientific study whether they are being played good music or bad music.
So far, I can’t tell if they’re reacting or just doing octopus things 🤔
did they start dancing?
It would help if there was a period where they played nothing. So we could see what that looks like.
J W yeah, you’re right
Also, everything should be in the same range, mode, and key for fairness. Also, octopi probably have different like and dislikes, just like humans.
What we're observing in that tank is the product of five-hundred million years of evolutionary biology. If octopi had a need for rhythm, then it's likely they would have already invented music long before any upright-walking primates had the chance.
U need one thing:
1. A switch or something they can interact with to turn the music on/off.
Or at least something they can hide in so you can see if they dislike the music when they hideaway or if they are interested when they come out.
I was thinking the same thing. It would be easier to tell if they don't like it if they can hide from the music. Also it was hard to tell if Arnold wanted to get closer to feel the music more or if he just wanted to get past the wall and break the speaker, since I've seen him break things when he's mad. lol
This makes me quite frustrated as octopus spend more than 80% of their time hidden in small dark spaces. They do not prefer open water let alone brightly lit tanks with nowhere to hide and nowhere to go to escape the music. I’m sure they experienced considerable amounts of stress. This is just plain terrible.
@Southern Fern who lol
I'm pretty sure their only reaction is "can I go home yet?"
During the "metal" song, lisa swan hard to the right and banged her head against the glass. Even she found "head banging" music annoying!
suzarraelizabeth hey you don’t know about my food play
In 3:40 the right one surely looks like wanting go home XD
So, me at a concert = octopus.
@@dustigenes She did that with half of them. 😑
I would have liked to see how they reacted to something like Tibetan Singing Bowls...
Interesting
Probably too much vibration ?? Idk
how about mongolian throat singing?
interesting how they gravitate to the divider for some music and move as far away as they can from other music. They both seemed to quite like the cinematic/dark music. They really have different tastes in music. That was fun to watch.
They probably didn't know any of the songs, I've never heard of them either
Bwahahahaha!!! Good one!;; I didn't either, except the children genre sounded like saloon music to me!!
Not my style either. Pop music get them dancing.
Ummm excuse me, but I'm preeetty damb sure that they at least know Chtulchu (sic)
You're welcome 😁
Lol they could have used real recording artist songs, the video would have gotten taking down for copyright issues
It's probably music that's not copyrighted from an audio sample library.
As a diver, I can tell you that sound under water, is coming from all directions. Most of the time, it appeared that these octopi were looking for a direction to swim in to get away from the noise.
I believe this is worth noting; marine life can also pick up on sounds from above the surface. Once when I was aboard a ship and sailing near the Western coast of Australia, I was on deck with a few other guys and we were jamming. Shortly after we started, a school of dolphin swam along side us and followed us, jumping out of the water as they did. They followed us as long as we kept playing. When we stopped, they swam away.
That is so interresting! What were you playing? More like techno music or more like country music? Acoustic Guitar or more like Electronics?
@@jessikapiche6097 Actually. this was in 1980. We were just jamming on some of our favorite tunes at the time. Led Zeppelin, Cars, Ted Nugent, Pat Travers. and so on. We were in the Navy and aboard the USS Independence.
@@harleyhexxe9806 i salute your service. I was in Canadian Air force myself in the 90's. I didn't know Dolphin loved Led Zeppelin! lol Cool.
@@jessikapiche6097 Thank you, and I salute your service also. Canada is a beautiful country.
I believe Dolphins just love music in general, they don't seem to be too picky.
You know, i was thinking, they should have a video in which a band of musician play a song and 3 dolphins came and start singing too... Ok i should stop drinking... ;)
They both assumed a similar position momentarily while the ambient music was playing.
I noticed that too. Seemed like the only genre where they were reacting similar.
Or trying to get out lol
Is "ambient" even a genre? I would have classified it as contemporary choral. I noticed they both sat on the wall with arms in all directions appearing relaxed. Maybe try more choral music without percussion?
@@kthybrown007 I'd say it is, but that song definitely wasn't ambient.
I like the movement the one on the right is doing at 3:41 very beautiful
It's interesting to see that both octopuses have different tastes in music. This shows that these creatures have reached a level of intelligence to which they have developed personalities
OK video.
Some of my friends and I tried this during our Marine Biology class.
We used soft, slow music.
We placed a low-volume speaker on the opposite end of the aquarium approximately 8 inches from aquarium.
Roughly 11 minutes in, all 5 of them had traveled from the rocks they were amongst, to the speaker end.
3 of them weirdly ran their tentacles over the glass.
When we moved the speaker to the other end, all 5 returned to the other end within 4 minutes.
Their were other people who did this same experiment/study decades before we tried.
The vibrations on the glass
@@chok2129 Put the speakers ABOVE the water then!
So?? How did you interpret this data? Sounds like Octopi are interested in new data
Great job. Data.
They have an inherent understanding of octaves.
ok...that was a good one ;)
.......nice X3
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*groan*
*slow clap*
She's a little bit country. He's a little bit rock and roll.
😂😂😂
Love the reference... :)))
Lol
Well played.
Who cares! 100 episodes.
Started playing that country music and he wasn't having it lol. Full on headbutts the wall 🤣🤣🤣
😂 i hate it too!
Yes the poor boy, he bashed his head against the wall quite hard!
How about the ambient when he just curled up in a ball in the corner!!!🤣🤣
I can understand him I do the same
Trying to cover his hearing sense
Well, I’m a human & here’s my reaction to the entire music selection: 😖
Yeah, it was all equally bad!
That's for sure. They should be together, so that they can dance. Maybe get lucky eh.,,🌝
Well each song was what each genre said
The classical one was nice imo
Like the R octopus. The left one looked like a music lover. The R one couldn't be bothered IMO
conclusion: they both have different af music tastes xd
You have to try Mozart, Bach, and Beethoven, Handel, and Hayden.
Pup314 agreed! They’re awesome!
Best would be Bach like Goldberg Variations. The complexity & melody might intrigue them. Very interesting experiment.
Tchaikovsky would also be good. I think the treble would make a difference.. most of these had a strong bass (at least what we heard). Maybe also something from the 1940s. (for the sake of the experiment, I think it would be easy to get free licensing to do short clips if needed)
@@tonicastel2390 I love the version Glenn Gould did 1981. (It's so good, I don't even mind the 'humming' and other noises he makes while he's playing.)
Don’t forget Debussy and Ravel! So much of the impressionist music is fluid in motion, on piano pedaling blends the harmonies like watercolor painting.
Is it just me, or the one on the left, pardon that I can't recall the name, seems to go closer to the speakers when the beat of the song is more pronounced? Did anybody else notice that? Also, good choice with Chtulthu at the end there. What would be more interesting is to hear these songs the way they would, maybe using an underwater microphone, since I am sure water distorts these a lot.
yep the bigger one seemed to like bumpy rhythmic music so bigger drum beat music.
when it was too chaotic like death metal type stuff he was put off by it.
then he camps his body right on top the speaker there to i assume fully feel the rhythm of the drums.
my god they should play him some tool so he can meet his spirit brother danny carry's drum playing.
I saw that too!
Yep, I saw that. He's definitely more into rock and she's into jazz lol! I love this experiment, it makes their thought processes seem even more human. They definitely have different "likes" (I am trying not to anthropomorphise too much!)
Yes, I noticed that as well. The one on the left responded more to a distinctive beat and lower tones while Lisa on the right just seemed to be fluttering (dancing). Disappointed that there was no high tones as in violins in classical music. Would love to have seen their reaction to a. It of Mozart or Haydn.
It's my first watching the octopi but that's what I noticed- the one on the left side likes the rhythm
Pfft, they did not play "Under the Sea"
Octopus Garden
Or Octapus's Garden.
But please, no Yellow Submarine: by request of the octopi
Ocean Man (ween)
It's all Copy right free music so they dont get demonetized.
The one on the left looks like "pfft, when do I evolve the ability to yell shut up?"
Awful music. This is torture for them and me.
I imagine words would sound worse.
Tbh they were probably looking for decent music that would also not get them copyright-striked or something
@@frownyclowny6955 - There are so many better choices.
I know! My first choice would be Mozart. That's the standard of perfection. Then play them a Bach cantata.
You. Just you.
What no Octopuses Garden by The Beatles?
This is just an experimental tank that these octopuses are temporarily put in. They have their own homes in their separate tanks with coral reefs and "gardens."
Pardon was just referring to the Beatles song.
Wylde Bill oh sorry. I thought you meant the tank without the garden. I didn't think of that song till you mentioned it.
Would’ve been the perfect song 👍
Or Octopus by Syd Barret.
They seem more relaxed with ambient and classical
Relaxed? Guy on the right in 3:40 looks like relaxed? XDDD
She's having a little chair dance! We've all done it when the mood takes us! 😜
They're chill with the reggae too 😎
That's Cuz Excellent Classical Music Has a way of relaxing your Spirit...
@@GenderWoman666 thats... a girl
It is difficult to interpret their reactions - are they excited or are they trying to escape the sound waves? The most interesting reactions were to the "ambient" music track.
I'd like to see how they react to traditional gregorian chant, and real classical music. It would also be instructive to see how they react to specific instruments.
My own thought from watching this video is that they seem to react best to music that moves at mostly the same pace as themselves. The sea is also full of noise - including clicks - so do octopus react to staccato noises in alarm or as if it was prey? The reactions in the video were difficult for a lay person to interpret
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These reactions are similar to humans - we usually like chill tunes which are neither too fast nor too slow. But when we listen to fast-paced tunes, our hearts beat faster. For example, dance, march, cinematic, or scary music, since we think that some kind of action will take place. I also noticed the octopi running around and changing colors when fast music is played.
The one on the right seems like he’s trying to get away from it most of the time.
I felt also that the octopuses didn't have enough space to express their mood through motion, banging against the sides as soon as they start swimming (away?) They are not given anything to hide into or play with etc. Why was it important that they could not see each other? was there any real study behind this experiment or was it just an excuse for a video?
I totally agree. The selections were too much like each other. The "classical" piece really wasn't. I'd like to see how they react to Mozart, who is a favorite among more people in the classical genre than anyone else. I'd like to see how they react to Bach. Can they distinguish pitches? So much to explore.
Dark Cinematic: Octopus: "OOOH This Is my jam!" Cthulu: Octopus: "Crap, this is what Mom listened to...."
i wonder if their reaction would differ depending on the hertz of the soundwaves??
exactly, different animals hear at different frequencies and the like, playing human music will probably not be anything to them
Scientist: plays Nickleback
Arnold: tries to hide
Liza: throws out speaker
Basically. lol
Scientist: Look at this graph [o octopus]
6:23 would this reaction from Arnold mean something in particular? It's as if he prefers to bash his head in rather than listen to country music.
Laughed pretty hard at that.
I wouldn't be surprised if some sound combinations make them feel dizzy or confused.
It seemed like the left-side one was interested in strong beats. I'd guess it's just the vibration.
I don’t blame him!
Wouldn't we all?
understandable
same thing happens to me. head...meet wall.
The real question is do they like Disney music. We need some “under the sea” playing
Nah man, we need something that really speaks to them on a personal level, like H.P. Lovecraft Historical Society - "A Shoggoth on the Roof"
Or better yet, Poor Unfortunate Souls.
Ariel.. Yed
The seaweed is always greener in somebody else's lake
Under The Sea? Isn't that sung by a lobster? That's food to octopi. 🤣
She is dancing so gracefully. Now that we know they are sentient and intelligent, should we make it illegal to kill them and eat them ?
It should be illegal to kill and eat them anyway based on the fact that THEY ARE DISGUSTING! 🤮
If you are interested in seeing if there is a range of responses, you must choose music that is very different in how its put together from example to example, such as very different instrumentation/frequency range, vocal vs instrumental, percussion and no percussion, ONLY percussion and also western and non western music, etc etc. The range of "genres" here is actually very limited.... and the music you labeled classical is NOT classical music in the sense that most people understand it. But the more important problem is that there is too much similarity in the dominant frequencies and patterns, looking at it from just a sonic point of view. As someone pointed out, if they had a choice of music, and even MORE importantly, a choice of IF and WHEN to listen to music, then you would really get a sense for their true preference. I like the basic idea here...however in some ways it is a bit too much like the experiment conducted everyday on people who live in apartments, who are subjected to a wide range of... sonic experiences from their neighbors, and, like the poor boy in the left side tank, wish to hurl themselves at the offending noise. And finally, give them something that they can play, like a keyboard. And look out! Octomixx!!!
Yes, thank you, this "experiment" didn't actually show us anything. Different frequencies and ranges definitely should have been a factor especially since sound travels differently in water.
As an introvert I can feel their existential dread and the need to cover up with something.
Indeed! Especially the big one on the left is feeling very uncomfortable and even seems to try to escape.
They clearly didn't like it and was trying to escape or find the sound to probably kill it.
Additionally I was fascinated how their tentacles turned into dreadlocks once reggae was introduced 😌
TzadikTheManic 🤣
Lol...Too funny!😁
yo, watch this space! when they will be also accused of cultural appropriation ....
I loved how excited they got with Cthulu.
@@hobbiesandpassions9137 🙄
Country music at 6.15
Head first into wall:
*Make it stop!*
😂😂😂😂😂
Awww poor guy
I can’t tell if they like it or not.... the children’s music they both got closer to the speaker. I think they liked it OR they were looking for the off button. ❤️
When Arnold went to the speakers during the music with a solid beat was it because he liked the music or wanted to kill the speakers? They both spread their tentacles out during the dark cinematic music. Does this mean it stressed them out? Seeing their movements is one thing but figuring out what they are feeling is another. Fascinating, nonetheless.
This ⏫
@EccentricSage ...I saw that as extreme distress...the equivalent of "hiding under the blankets, in a foetal position..trying to shut the World out" for humans...I just wanted to "cuddle" them, and tell them "everything is going to be ok, it will stop soon".
I would guess that spreading out and slower movement is a good sign, signifying less fear of something trying to eat them. Curling up and sitting still would be to try and present as small and unnoticeable a target as possible.
Jo-Anna Hicks
Last thing you want to do is put human traits on a completely non human animal. The only thing we have in common is an extraordinary intelligent and even then it is evolved in completely different ways. Apparently curling up is a way they shed.
Honestly, this experiment was pretty poor, there’s nothing definitive going on here about whether or not the like the music, the vibration, or if they really notice at all. The music variety isn’t there either...
I suspect in the ambient piece they heard the loud, semi-random clicking/tapping noise as a potential threat or source of food to investigate.
The only other piece I saw any possibly consistent reaction from the two was the children’s piece right before it, which was literally the only one with the slightest bit interesting going on musically. All the rest were just tedious and repetitive and probably of little real interest to either octopi or humans.
I think they both responded excitedly to the Ambient music. The Octopus on the left appeared more interested in the music overall.
If I see them at a music festival, I'd recognize them like these types: the left one is the one running to the stage to be at the front row, but ONLY with the cool bands, and the right one is just chilling on a hill somewhere, enjoying herself from a distance, smoking a blunt because all is fine as long as we're here anyway 😄
I didn't learn what type of music they like..I learned they are individuals. So cool!
Music has meaning to us due to a million reasons. The ocean is full of sounds, vibrations. I can imagine that most music sounds as interesting as a boat propeller under water.
That would be kinda fucked. Dolphins are a predator of octopus.
Who
Picked the music...really its all kind of irritating to me..
Poor guys. What's the point of this anyway?
Think it was the music they had to pay the least for rights to use. Lol. Fav. Dan Lebowitz - Country/Folk. Lmbo. The Jewish cowboy
Mary McMahon - Yes. Pointless, at least in methodology. I was waiting for at least a _little_ analysis, even if to just hear “we have no idea what they’re thinking, or how this is impacting them”. I know I’m anthropomorphizing, but my guess is the octapuses were thinking “when’s this hell gonna end?!”
@@marlaleemouse Read the Title.
"Will an octopus React to Music".Kinda self explanatory.
Yeah. How can they enjoy it if I can't.
I thought this video could have used an explanation at the end. Letting the viewers know exactly what each one was doing and how they reacted positively or negatively to each song and how it shows their differences in their likes of the music.
I think the problem with that is, who ever set this up doesn't know either and wanted Our opinion. Lol
I think it is pretty obvious the reactions were mostly random and unconnected to the music. Which is no surprise, as I wouldn’t react to most of that music either. :)
I really was hoping for the scientists to say something too. I’m kind of disappointed because they know more about the octopuses mannerisms
Sound doesn't travel the same underwater and I'm not even sure octopus have ears to actually hear things with.
@@tonicoles6831 yes, exactly. I don't know octopus body language well enough to identify moments of particular responses and what they might mean, I would have really liked a bit if a discussion at the end.
🐙 I don't know much about Octopus.
🐙 Do they actually 'hear' or do they 'feel' the vibrations?
🐙 I'm highly sensitive to certain sounds and half of these I couldn't listen to.
🐙 I'd love to hear an interview with each of these little characters to see how they felt about the experiment because I'm still a little in the dark, but thanks for sharing! 🐙
I'd like to see this study be taken a step further. Test their musical memory, see their reaction to songs they would become familiar with vs. songs they are new to hearing.
"Genre: Rock"
Lies!
Ikr
They were vibing so much when the ambient music was on aww
The one on the left "gee, what's this crap disturbing my afternoon nap?"
Look like one liked jazz the other rock lol and both spaced out to ambient music!
Or could just be just the normal movement behavior they randomly do anyway. One would need to run the test repeatedly to determine if there really is a distinct behavior pattern or not associated with the music.
and both tried to get away from country & folk. :D
Idk... To me it seems Liza was more interested in learning the tank
Wtf, rap & hip hop? In who's world? A white as snow one?!
Fascinating! Now let’s see how they react to GOOD music.
Exactly!!! Why not play the best of each genre? Music that evokes emotion, not that generic, elevator crap..
@@April-t6z 'best' is purely subjective to humans and also, I suspect, to octopuses so good luck with that!
@post boredom, I’m guessing it had to do with copyright claims. Although they could have just muted the sound, these songs were likely royalty-free, or something along those lines
Most animals respond to harmonic or classical music best. Some of these selections would have been torture to me.
@@April-t6z idk how well they'd be able to hear words in water. It would probably sound far worse than the elevator music ever would.
Plays country and tries to knock himself out... Lol
i know i did.
Octopus on left: "PLAY SOME SKYNYRD, MAN!"
FREEBIRD!
Arnold looks like he really wants to mess with the stereo as Liza likes every genre and dances to it lol
I THOUGHT THEY WHERE GOING TO PLAY SOME CLASSICAL MUSIC THAT HAS MATHEMATIC REPETITION
I would like to see how they respond to 1 instrument at a time, only piano, harp, guitar, flute etc. because so much is going on in a song with many instruments. Also what would be their reaction to a woman singing vs a man singing...like an opera song or soft love song.
Has anyone ever tried one of those mood machines that plays rain, babbling brooks and forest sounds etc?
Looks more like they were annoyed with the sound pressure in the water, and it looked like the one octopus on the left was trying to get at the source to get rid of it.
*blues plays*
Liza: 💃 💃
Arnold: 😐
If that’s Hip Hop and Rap, you’re doing it wrong.
Brenda Williams I agree that was not rap
They may have been hard pressed to find something without words and just a beat.
You haven't listened to much Nas have you?
Thats because Hip Hop and Rap are just plain wrong!
If hip hop or rap sound like music, then they're being done wrong too
Result: subjects remained fixated on getting out and living free in nature.
Right?!
Ok
Are they ever freed?
The "Lost In A Prayer" song is NOT CLASSICAL. It is New Age.
ok boomer
Mimimimimimimi
@@arch758 I don't think that means what you think it means.
Exactly so. It has the same monotonous lack of any interesting melody, harmony, rhythm, dynamics, or emotion of the rest or the rhythm backing tracks played. They were all incredibly boring and monotonous.
@Veit Zeret Okay, dumbass.
It's possible that when they went to the speaker, they were looking for a way to make it stop.
Anyone else notice any time there was a good beat he kept going straight for the speakers?
Really lousy music selections, I suspect that both tank critters thought the same.
The choice of music was from the experimenter’s “own garden” and taste, with no relevant variety... too much rock, just one fragment of classical (not the best choice even)... no chill out, no ethnic, instrumental, etc - which explains why the experiment looked like pure torture at time (Arthur shaped himself into a blob?!)
The whole experiment was very badly done and serves Us or the Octopus not one bit.
this is youtube, the music was likely restricted by copyright
I agree. I would like to see another of these experiments done with more diverse music choices
ok boomer
Inquisitor Shu I know... I know how hard it can be to go through life knowing that you’ll never reach a boomer’s sophistication... but, life’s never been fair.
6:20 knocking on the neighbour's wall because of the loud music 😂😂
Unless you see them doing the octopus, any response could be to the vibration created by the sound waves rather than any appreciation for the sound itself.
I’m waiting for the videos of the octopus performing experiments on humans. 🐙
i am as well!!
Your "classical", "hip-hop", and "pop" all sound like new age electronica.
And "alternative" is a "genre"?
On second listen, I think you could be right.
Oh we all live in a yellow submarine...
Instead of complex musical pieces, I wonder how they would react to individual instrument composition.
From 3:30 to 3:45 Liza does the CUTEST little movement where she curls up all het tentacles and does a little wiggle before she straightens them out again. Adorable!
They're not much on dancing. They have 8 left feet!!
😂😂😂😂
And this is why, Squidward loves talents very much.
In your descriptions can you please include the type of octopus we are viewing, along with info such as age, how long you've had them, etc...
I'd like to see them react to the Beatles "Octopus Garden."
Country and Folk: Swim For The Hills!!!
I would like to see how an octopus would react to art - like Van gogh’s sunflowers. Would they try to blend into it?
I find it funny, that out of all the rock-metal songs, you find one that perfectly fits this particular experiment
Ambient was their favorite. They looked like they were stretched out and walking/floating along.
If they are hearing what I'm hearing/feeling, then it all sounds like crap, due to the water slowing the driver down and causing a great amount of distortion.
I think you should have used more widespread "commercial" musicians (Beethoven for example). Also, I think it would have been nice to see how they responded to the speaker itself. See how they act when it's silent, then different sounds, then music. Seeing if they try to destroy it and during which cases could tell you more about their "Emotions"
Why do people keep saying this? They can't use recordings from labels or else they'll likely get copyright strikes. I'm sure they had songs they would like to have played, but are stuck with whatever generic royalty free songs they could find. That would also make the experiment repeatable for other labs.
@@funstuff2006 thats what I was saying, as someone whom has searched for royalty free songs i can attest to the fact that there are plenty of genres to choose from. You are implying that I am saying play whatever, I am not. Likewise, playing a song for its INTENDED purpose is what triggers copyright laws. Just look up why so many reaction videos get taken down. They dont have to play the entire song on camera but I'm not in the mood to explain this sorry.
“ What are these crappy versions of music they are trying to feed us? Silly humans! 😆🐙
Octopi only like slayer
The octopus on the left was pretending it was in the mosh pit when rock was played. 🤘
I feel paranoid wondering who has been watching me watch octopuses not dance for twelve minutes. 🐙
arnold's like "I can't listen to the blues without my shades man"........
Im SO excited you did my experiment!!! I saw some really interesting reactions! Did anyone else?!
Why didn't you play ANY songs with words/singing/lyrics? This seemed like you picked things that were a mishmash of several genres spliced together. From start to finish, it all sounded nearly identical. Looks like the result of which was a single, identical "mood".
That's song this is music
I'm sure the researchers were just trying to show them musical sounds, not humans singing our language
When you provide buttons to let them select music, you should give them an off or mute button as well. Who says mollusks have to be music lovers.
Octopuss are like " why are they torturing us today? "
Let's take it a step further: let's have them react to different classical composers!!!
I'd like to see a test where you have a snack in a container and the lid has several holes with only one big enough to fit the snack through I'd like to see how he solves the problem.
What colors do they turn when they're agitated? Octopuses communicate with each other and their environment using color changes. I've always heard the paler the octopus the happier...so what music makes both octopuses change colors?
The metal song at the end, they both started briefly flashing a dark red. Scared em a little I guess, songs invoking cthulu are a sign of a much larger octopus on the way.
I felt sorry for them having to put up with some of those selections of "music".
The big one seemed to like the rock music. Rawk on dude, rawk on.
Have you tried teaching them shapes and signals? Like showing a picture of a triangle means food, circle means fake food etc
I wonder what I just watched. During some of the songs, one or the other would just freeze in place. During others both would be mobile. Sometimes they would spread themselves to their full extent. When they did this, I wondered if they were making themselves into their best "ears". As if they were making a giant receiver of their bodies, like a big radar dish, or something similar. However, I am not a specialist, those were just my impressions. I also noticed that Liza was more active then Arnold at different times as though she liked a type of music that he didn't. One other observation that I made, human music tends to have a beat based on our heartbeats. Do Octopi have heartbeats also? If music were written based on their heartbeats, would they possibly react differently?