I really like DeDeDe's status as Kirby's frenemy not only because it fits them thematically and shows a very fitting growth, but because in a more meta level since it fits his role as a giant loveable doofus so much more. I mean, Bowser himself kinda struggles when we start to think about his relationship with Mario(specially outside of the main games), but when DeDeDe hugs Kirby in Smash it fits his character enough to make the moment much more amusing.
@@skipthetutorial even way back in the game boy days I knew dedede was a huge goofball he just wanted to flex his kingly muscle. Basically if you think about the original game on the game boy he was mischevious and selfish so he needed a push in the right direction which is why kirby was there. Actually if you put these on a timeline game boy would come first because after that game dedede was friends with kirby because he was pushed on the path of good. Its a nice take on the selfish king where at the end you realize "...oh dedede was protecting us, ah I see." Yes he's greedy but all he wants is to clobbah dat Dere kirbeh but not kill him. I think that's what makes dedede have more personality than other video game bosses. So in the end is dedede a bad or good guy... I would say he's a rolling stone, goes with how he fits the role the most.
Good to see someone that actually recognizes Revenge of the King's Masked Dedede as a fight for his honor rather than him being a bad guy. His depiction as a good boy even continues to Smash with him basically saving everyone in Brawl thanks to his stickers.
I do like how Dedede has morphed from Lead villain to consistent frienemy more likely to be competing in a race to eat the most food than actively causing trouble, honestly. A Redededemption arc at it's finest. (And looking it up out of curiosity - Turns out Kracko is the Kirby boss with the most appearances as a boss, counting spinoffs, at 19 - Thought it would be Whispy Woods, but he ties with King Dedede at 16 - Meta Knight's a surprisingly lean 7, and only Mr Shine & Mr Bright, and Ice Dragon join those at 5 or more boss appearances at 5 each. Considering Kirby's reputation for recycling the same bosses over and over, that only really applies to a handful, and the most infamous boss for it - Whispy Woods - doesn't even tie for most appearances.)
Okay - redededmption arc is brilliant. Props out the gate. Secondly, the meta knight number is surprising! He needs to be better represented - maybe even in a spin-off. Thanks for checking this one out, GF!
It should be noted, however, that Meta Knight has quite a bit of, er, clones, if memory serves Galacta has been fought three times, dark meta knight twice and morpho once. Whispy also has a replacement in Amazing Mirror.
Good analysis! I wish Nintendo did this with Bowser more. I forgot how great the dialog was in Super Star Ultra! I wish more Mario and Kirby games did that. It seems pretty simple but allows for a lot of storytelling and character without actually interrupting the flow very much.
Hey Caleb! I think Odyssey is an example of the Mario series taking strides to build some character, so here’s hoping that continues through to other series. Thanks for checking this one out!
Can’t wait for the Mario and Luigi game where you get caught between 2 equally matched villainous factions going at each other in a full-on massive turf war - it’s gonna happen at some point I swear
I wish people won't act like the music that perfectly fits cutscenes, the lore, good bosses and good, but simple dialogues are only in KSSU. It's also in Return to Dreamland, Triple Deluxe, Planet Robobot and Star Allies. Just like the new parts of KSSU and updates of older ones, the director is Shinya Kumazaki, and it shows. I'd see why would you make such a statement, though - Shimomura, Flagship and Sakurai games didn't had things like that, except Shimomura's K64 having the music that perfectly fits the cutscenes.
Just simple steps can go a long way into developing a character - definitely something I would love to see happen in other platformers. Thanks for checking this one out, oiram!
@@unhingedelbows2907 oh yeah I'm a huge kirby fan and know all the lore regarding ancients and what not, but was pointing out that still it's impressive that triple D has developed in a way that others have not
@@Luka98068 Kirby characters have definitely progressed more than any Mario character, (outside the RPG spinoffs) not saying Mario characters aren't good, just that they don't go anywhere
If you like the subject, look up Meteorz and Woolie Versus. They both have great lore videos. Meteorz is more of a deep detailed study into all the different topics, while Woolie Versus is more focused on the creepy thematic nature of the lore.
@@MrSuperbeast92 Yeah, I am subscribed to both of them. However, they're only two people, so it's good to see someone else pitch in on the lore fest of the Kirby fanbase.
Here's hoping! That would be the greatest category read - all of these big budget Xbox and PlayStation Triple-A titles and then Kirby: Bake a Cake! wins for the write-up. Brilliant haha Thanks for checking this one out, GBA!
There are 2 things we can be sure about King dedede when we play a new kirby game 1- we will hear his amazing theme somewhere. 2-Dedede is going to be possessed by something
The funny thing about Meta Knight I noticed is that he’s constantly considered an anti-hero, but he’s only been villainous once: in Revenge of Meta Knight. Every other time he’s either protecting something Kirby doesn’t understand, (Adventure and Squeak Squad) or possessed (Epic Yarn, Planet Robobot, and Star Allies)
@@skipthetutorial Fair enough. Also the more I think about it the more I realize that most Kirby bosses would work well for this. Kracko being another example of the dedede return formula, Kabula and Core Kabula, Holo-Defense API, ect.
@@gmazurek746 Kracko especially is versatile, since his basic abilities all stem from "he's a cloud" and even his shape varies. That's how they do so many unique things with him - like in Dreamland 2 where he pops out from the cloudy foreground, Triple Deluxe where he covers the entire sky to unleash devastating lightning strikes, and Star Allies where he splits into two.
That's part of the formula. Dedede was being controlled by Taranaza when he got that axe, which made his attacks HELLA fast. Very different from the norm, indeed.
I can't wait to get dedede in smash ultimate, now that i have the game. He was one of my sm4sh mains (alongside mr.G&W and bowser jr) and he got some neat buffs i hear. I especially love playing dedede against friends and doing nothing but spamming gordows and pressing down EDIT: i've seen some people deny dedede's villain status, but he still is kirby's arch nemesis. Star allies calls him that. He just isn't as hostile or evil as usual villains.
King Dedede is such a joy to play in that game. Absolutely love using him as an alternate with GW. Thanks for checking this one out, Dededelete this! Always good to see you
This was great. I was wondering if you could do an episode on another Kirby boss, Whispy Woods. What makes Whispy interesting is that being a tree, he can't move and remains stationary during the entirety of (most) fights. Meaning you don't have to aim your Star spitting. And I think an interesting talking point would be on his attacks and how, somehow he gains even more every game, namely his basic attack, dropping apples. The attack has a neat mentality, where the game teaches you that food is good, and touching it heals you. But now touching it hurts you, the player understands they must inhale the apples and spit them back. And where the other bosses drop stars, Whispy drops apples. There's a lot of cool yet hidden things about this boss, and I wish you could talk about them. TL;DR Please make a Whispy Woods Video and keep up the incredible work!
Hey Prisma Can - I’m thinking of a doing a kind of mini series on these reoccurring bosses like kracko, whispy woods, meta knight, and maybe even other examples like Ridley! Thanks for checking this one out!
An explanation that fleshes out in a very organized format and keeping it very simple while also not losing focus on the the main subject you are try to state...have my respect and sub
I could maybe explain Dedede’s reason for his food stealing ways back in the first game. WaddleDee’s. A WaddleDees will work and serve anyone who gives them a home, a job to do, and food. Now look at Dedede. He gave the WaddleDees an entire castle to stay at, he uses them to run most of dreamland in construction, but allows them to make and go to schools and even drive(Robobot) Dedede is just...a giant clumsy doof
The simple fact that Kirby vs Dedede has been one of the few iconic video game rivalries to actually be settled has cemented it as my favorite 😊 Their "final battle" in the electric cage in SSU remains one of my favorite boss battles in the entire series, you can just FEEL how personal it is, both these two trying to prove they have what it takes to beat the other once and for all. And when it's all said and done, they shake hands and work together as allies. Beautiful.
Hey MCD! Smart choice - that's definitely a fun character to mess around with. I need to get better at him - I always misplace my up B and fall back down to the abyss. Thanks for checking this one out!
Gotta love the little continuity details on the Kirby series like how King Dedede learned to fly like Kirby to trying to be better than him on the air too because it's been stated in Smash Bros that between the first Dream Land game and Adventure/Knightmare in Dream Land he trained to be able to fly like Kirby and it's something that the player could notice because in the first game he couldn't fly but he can since Adventure. Another great detail that I like is how the Halberd is sunked on the same ocean from Kirby Super Star in Kirby Squeak Squad.
I can't believe I missed the upload, I guess I'll hit the bell too... *ding* Another instance of King Dedede is in Subspace Emissary where he unintentionally saves everyone by giving them a timer on their trophies to later revive them. He then, once being revived himself by Kirby, hugs him with the most adorable grin, before showing the main threat, Taboo. I'm surprised you didn't mention that other instance as Sakurai directed that one.
everyone else: listening to how king dedede develops a good boss battle system throughout years me: loving the music in the background because i played kirby epic yarn and is too addicted
This was a very nice analysis. I never really thought about it much (aside from the story, I love Dedede's progression through the series). Meta Knight is very similar. He fights with honor. Always providing Kirby a sword before the battle (except in Squeak Squad, or when he is controlled sometimes). You never actually defeat Meta Knight. If he loses his mask, he is in shame, and simply runs from battle. He wants to be seen as a great warrior, but no one would take him seriously if he was cute. Kirby himself isn't seen as a warrior in his own games. He is still seen as cute and lovable, or not very smart. Meta knight only fights Kirby when he finds it necessary. In Kirby's Adventure, he tested Kirby (supposedly) to see if he would be able to win against Nightmare... It was his first time meeting him after all. He doesn't appear again until Super Star... Where he grows tired of Dreamland's lazy lifestyle and wants to rule it to fix the problems he sees. However, Kirby comes and fights him, and he allows his crew to escape, and then has a completely fair dual with Kirby. I feel like this was also a test... He knew Kirby would oppose him, and he wanted to see how powerful he truly was. The next time he appears is in Squeak Squad... He acts completely uncharacteristic. Not trusting Kirby to fight off Dark Nebula. He jsut hides that it even exists and runs away with the chest... However, everyone acts weird in Squeak Squad... Kirby attacks Dedede for no reason. Dedede attacks Kirby for no reason... and of course, Meta Knight acts very stupidly. Ever since Meta Knight's Revenge, he trusts Kirby and fights alongside him when possible. He's still a lone wolf, but he knows that there are some things that only Kirby can do.
the thing about Squeak Squad is that Kirby is for once in the wrong... and Meta Knight knows that. Yes, he could have communicated better. But as it was going, Kirby was probably going to open Dark Nebula's chest himself and most likely get possessed. Meta Knight isn't fighting for honor now- he's fighting to stop Kirby from hurting himself by getting the chest. The game itself acknowledges that MK was right, and THAT is why (I think) Meta Knight doesn't give you a sword when you fight him.
That is exactly why Meta Knight doesn't give him a sword. he's still very uncharacteristic though. By that point he knew how powerful Kirby was and should've trusted him to fight him off. You are right about the possession thing, but stealing the chest with no communication whatsoever is completely stupid. I'm sure if Daroach knew there was a dark evil inside, he wouldn't have opened the chest, and seeing as not wanting anyone to open the chest is why Meta Knight stole it in the first place, it could've been a whole lot easier for him.
Nice vid, and a great overview of how Dedede went from Villain-to-Hero! Kind of surprised you didn't mention Kirby Battle Royale. That game kind of had Dedede fall back into a Villainous Role.
Hey TWG - I mainly wanted to focus on the mainline games and core titles here past some mentions to the other games like Epic Yarn or Mass Attack. Thanks for bringing this up though!Good to hear from you
@@skipthetutorial Heh, that's fair! Battle Royale almost seems more like it's a reminder that Dedede was once a villain long ago, even tho it's plot is basically "Have Kirby lose in my tournament and fail to win the big prize" than anything.
Thanks for checking this one out, MKXB! Dedede is definitely one of the best bosses in gaming, and his progression plays a huge part into that in my mind
@@skipthetutorial WOAH OKAY I GOT A REPLY FROM A CHANNEL OWNER And, yeah! I really agree with your thoughts on Hal's boss design and character arcs. Still waiting on them to make you fight with a Dedede AI as your only ally.
More Nintendo spin off games need to happen. Captain toad and Luigi’s Mansion really have me chomping at the bit for similar genre breaks in the Kirby franchise. Thanks for checking this one out, 3.14 Dragon!
Dedede's a good guy?! Wow, I never knew. I'm happy for Dedede and all but I think it's important for video game character to have well defined and classic antagonists. Sonic has Eggman, Mario has Bowser, Mega Man has Dr. Wily. The Kirby creators know this too, that's why they keep making Dedede possessed or something so he can fight Kirby. But it's not the same if he's not really evil. Sort of takes away from classic nature of the good guy fighting the bad guy and devalues Dedede as a antagonists. You're video makes it clear that he's not even that bad of a dude!
I love how game-wise Dedede has become friendlier after his Masked Dedede fight in Super Star Ultra in which he outright says something like "lets end this rivalry now"
I do like how Hal Laboratory is more consistent when it comes to King Dedede's character development. They put a lot more effort in having Kirby enteract with him and give us unique and creative ways to flesh out Kirby's fight against him.
Revenge of the king (masked dedede fight) is really the last time he fights Kirby as an enemy. Every game since then he’s either been an ally, or possessed when you fight him.
I really really Like this video. The commentary and the small editing quirks are what make you one of my favorite video game analysis channels. Just a quick suggestion tho. I wanted to watch this video later but I forgot the title of it. So i googled "dedede boss battle analysis" and this video didn't show up? Do you think you can put the word "analysis" into your video tags so it can be easier to find your videos through the search bar? This boss battle breakdown series is one that a lot of youtube kiddos are wanting to see and I'd love for you to expand your audience. Thanks so much Dude and Keep on pumping out this sexy sexy content
This Video Is A Great Christmas Gift For It Goes Over One My Favorite Sort Of Villains (he hasn’t really done anything evil in a while ok let’s just say anti hero) King Dee Dee Dee
One exception can be made for Dedede to keep being the final boss of games where the stakes are just competition and rivalry with Kirby, rather than part of some evil plan - like Kirby Battle Royale or Kirby Fighters 2. These are games where Dedede isn't a villain, but still gets to be the main antagonist in a competition.
Can you do a Video on "*(Astral Birth) Void" since it has a TON of Interesting Stuff and even the Unlock Ties into the Boss' Design. Let me know if you're Planning to do that! :3
5:27 okay this is actually my #1 favorite thing about kirby. it has a kind of positive outlook on people. if you have had an argument with someone on the internet, just remember, that other person is probably just like Dedede. misguided. that, or YOU are Dedede. its hard to tell.
I absolutely love how The King has gone from the Bowser of the franchise to one of Kirby's most recurring allies. However at the same time I hope he hasn't lost all of his boss status, and may again some day challenge Kirby of his own volition...
He may not be a major antagonist, but he's still da king! Which is why I really appreciate how they handle his redemption and growth into more of a frenemy, while still being the same king we all know and love.
On top of being fun to fight, one thing I'll give Dedede credit for is that he never fights the exact same way twice. He always uses some new move or item, when he's not possessed that is
Including spin-offs, my guess was eight. There were seven. So close, but yet so far... I wonder if Dedede has something intrinsic about him that makes him easier to possess. After all, Dark Matter chose him as a vessel three times, and the Jamba Heart also targeted him. It really makes one think. And I also love how the Masked Dedede fight has had an effect on all canon since. He said that that fight would settle things between them, and he’s never been antagonistic to Kirby since. Every fight has been due to possession or brainwashing.
Dedede formula: swing your hammer a couple times at the ground, chase the enemy by floating like a giant blue balloon of destruction, if all else fails....attempt cannibalism
revenge of the king is actually a retelling of the extra mode from dreamland 1. a much harder version of the main game (or spring breeze, itself a remake of dreamland 1) all with the intent on getting revenge on you, by upgrading both himself and his entire army. with spring breeze and revenge of the king having the entirety of super stars contents sandwiched between them... you could say super star ultra takes place before adventure in terms of a timeline.
Hey another great vid Skip. I couldn’t agree more about Dedede being a great guy. Plus that masked dedede theme too. You have a good holiday season alright?
Hey Mr. Brightside! Thanks for checking this one out. Definitely hoping for a Dedede spin-off at some point, I think that would be a blast. Have a great holiday!
This is also a reason why I love the EX bosses in kirby games. They take the original attacks, and tweak them so that they are harder. But, HAL does it in a way that still makes the bosses feel new instead of just boring.
Big ol' Dedede is my Favorite character in gaming. Period. At this stage (when conscious) hes done more good then bad (or at least attempted to) and whenever hes possessed, he makes up for whatever he was forced to do even if it wasn't his fault. Ya know what, Taranza wasn't far off mistaking the royal goofball as Dreamlands hero
I’ll give that one to you, Alexander! Adding up the main games, spin off titles, and the one where he’s possessed multiple times - the number comes to about there. Nice work! Thanks for checking this one out!
If you look at his description in the guest star mode in Kirby star allies, your point is proven as it talks about Dedede wanting redededemtion, not to mention the Dedede tour in triple deluxe.
I consider there are three periods in Kirby/Dedede's relationship. They started off as ENNEMIES, but his action at the Fountain of Dreams opened the door for the guy not being a total villain. After Kirby saves him twice from being possessed by Dark Matter, he begrudgingly allies himself to Kirby in 64, mostly out of pride apparently. From that point on, they are RIVALS with a tense relationship, sometimes fighting but never without a reason. Finally, when Dedede talks about settling their grudge, he means it. Once defeated in Revenge of the King, he abandons their rivalry, and become FRIENDS with Kirby. He wholeheartedly accompanies him in adventures, and whenever they fight, he is invariably controlled or possessed.
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Dedede video during Christmas.
This.
(Swipes away tear)
This is beautiful.
Happy to live up to the season haha
Thanks for checking this one out, TTOK!
Merry late creemah! And thanks for the pin!
Absolutely
Excuse me let's talk about our supa sta worrea Dedede
Kinda suits the season since dedede is a penguin
I really like DeDeDe's status as Kirby's frenemy not only because it fits them thematically and shows a very fitting growth, but because in a more meta level since it fits his role as a giant loveable doofus so much more. I mean, Bowser himself kinda struggles when we start to think about his relationship with Mario(specially outside of the main games), but when DeDeDe hugs Kirby in Smash it fits his character enough to make the moment much more amusing.
Dedede is very much a big huggable design - no doubts about that! Thanks for bringing this up, Mike
Good to hear from you!
@@skipthetutorial even way back in the game boy days I knew dedede was a huge goofball he just wanted to flex his kingly muscle. Basically if you think about the original game on the game boy he was mischevious and selfish so he needed a push in the right direction which is why kirby was there. Actually if you put these on a timeline game boy would come first because after that game dedede was friends with kirby because he was pushed on the path of good. Its a nice take on the selfish king where at the end you realize "...oh dedede was protecting us, ah I see." Yes he's greedy but all he wants is to clobbah dat Dere kirbeh but not kill him. I think that's what makes dedede have more personality than other video game bosses. So in the end is dedede a bad or good guy... I would say he's a rolling stone, goes with how he fits the role the most.
Dedede is pretty much "bad" guy, but not a "Bad Guy".
@@skipthetutorial *Friend shaped!*
Kirby is little spoon hug shaped, dedede is big spoon hug shaped
Good to see someone that actually recognizes Revenge of the King's Masked Dedede as a fight for his honor rather than him being a bad guy.
His depiction as a good boy even continues to Smash with him basically saving everyone in Brawl thanks to his stickers.
I do like how Dedede has morphed from Lead villain to consistent frienemy more likely to be competing in a race to eat the most food than actively causing trouble, honestly. A Redededemption arc at it's finest.
(And looking it up out of curiosity - Turns out Kracko is the Kirby boss with the most appearances as a boss, counting spinoffs, at 19 - Thought it would be Whispy Woods, but he ties with King Dedede at 16 - Meta Knight's a surprisingly lean 7, and only Mr Shine & Mr Bright, and Ice Dragon join those at 5 or more boss appearances at 5 each. Considering Kirby's reputation for recycling the same bosses over and over, that only really applies to a handful, and the most infamous boss for it - Whispy Woods - doesn't even tie for most appearances.)
Yeah.
Kracko is Wacko.
Okay - redededmption arc is brilliant. Props out the gate.
Secondly, the meta knight number is surprising! He needs to be better represented - maybe even in a spin-off.
Thanks for checking this one out, GF!
It should be noted, however, that Meta Knight has quite a bit of, er, clones, if memory serves Galacta has been fought three times, dark meta knight twice and morpho once. Whispy also has a replacement in Amazing Mirror.
Masahiro Sakurai that is correct, also Whispy has a replacement, but Kracko is just Kracko in Amazing Mirror
@@namelastname3126 And Parallel Meta Knight once.
Good analysis! I wish Nintendo did this with Bowser more.
I forgot how great the dialog was in Super Star Ultra! I wish more Mario and Kirby games did that. It seems pretty simple but allows for a lot of storytelling and character without actually interrupting the flow very much.
Hey Caleb! I think Odyssey is an example of the Mario series taking strides to build some character, so here’s hoping that continues through to other series.
Thanks for checking this one out!
They seem to be giving Bowser a character arc in M&L, albeit one in the opposite direction of Dedede's.
Can’t wait for the Mario and Luigi game where you get caught between 2 equally matched villainous factions going at each other in a full-on massive turf war - it’s gonna happen at some point I swear
@@PALWolfOS like what almost happened in paper mario ttyd
I wish people won't act like the music that perfectly fits cutscenes, the lore, good bosses and good, but simple dialogues are only in KSSU. It's also in Return to Dreamland, Triple Deluxe, Planet Robobot and Star Allies. Just like the new parts of KSSU and updates of older ones, the director is Shinya Kumazaki, and it shows. I'd see why would you make such a statement, though - Shimomura, Flagship and Sakurai games didn't had things like that, except Shimomura's K64 having the music that perfectly fits the cutscenes.
Funny how one of the most kid friendly cute and accessible Nintendo franchises has legit character development.
Just simple steps can go a long way into developing a character - definitely something I would love to see happen in other platformers.
Thanks for checking this one out, oiram!
Take that, Miyamoto!
Obligatory “uhh, actually Kirby has deep lore” comment (it does though)
@@unhingedelbows2907 oh yeah I'm a huge kirby fan and know all the lore regarding ancients and what not, but was pointing out that still it's impressive that triple D has developed in a way that others have not
@@Luka98068 Kirby characters have definitely progressed more than any Mario character, (outside the RPG spinoffs)
not saying Mario characters aren't good, just that they don't go anywhere
**I SEE THAT YOU TOO RECOGNIZE THE GLORY OF OUR TRUE LORD!**
He’s a prophet - I love dat dere guy!
Thanks for checking this one out, dedede clobber kirb (love the name haha)
*PRAISE THE KING!*
PRAISE THE CLOBBER OF KIRBS
PRAISE!!!
K. ROOL IS THE TRUE KING
Well Dedede is already perfect so there is no need to change up his fighting style THAT much.
Hey Edward! I agree - it plays well into his overall character arc
Thanks for checking this one out!
Interesting to finally hear another video talking about the plot of Kirby games. It's surprising how little you can find on this kind of stuff.
Happy to discuss this! It’s definitely a topic that’s interested me throughout the series.
Thanks for checking this one out, RDU!
If you like the subject, look up Meteorz and Woolie Versus. They both have great lore videos. Meteorz is more of a deep detailed study into all the different topics, while Woolie Versus is more focused on the creepy thematic nature of the lore.
@@MrSuperbeast92 Yeah, I am subscribed to both of them. However, they're only two people, so it's good to see someone else pitch in on the lore fest of the Kirby fanbase.
Game awards 2019
Kirby wins best most in-depth story
because why not
Here's hoping! That would be the greatest category read - all of these big budget Xbox and PlayStation Triple-A titles and then Kirby: Bake a Cake! wins for the write-up. Brilliant haha
Thanks for checking this one out, GBA!
GameBear Art let’s be fair Kirby lore got really deep in the last game I hope they explore the ancients and the star warriors more in the next game
Alvaro Tobaruela Star warriors aren’t canon
HEHEHE IAMASUPAHSTARWARRIAH ok then I want them to explain the Kirby-meta knight-galacta knight speacies lore
Speaking of which, how can meta-knight be the same species as Kirby if he actually has arms???
There are 2 things we can be sure about King dedede when we play a new kirby game
1- we will hear his amazing theme somewhere.
2-Dedede is going to be possessed by something
His theme doesn't play in kirby 64 or adventure/ Nightmare in dreamland
You had me at "Clobbah".
1:24 Please. *It's called the Dedede Super Jump.*
Woah - TIL! Thanks for clarifying this one, MK - good to finally hear the name for it 👍
Thanks for checking this one out!
@@skipthetutorial No problem. It just felt so weird hearing it be called the "jump up and slam down technique".
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Its "Come on and SLAM!".
@@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx welcome to the JAM
Thank god (also known as Dedede) for a Kirby video, on Christmas no less! Please do Meta Knight next (though, really, who else would you do?).
It’s on the list! Thanks for the suggestion, HEHEHE
I really appreciate you checking this one out!
Now this is epic
The funny thing about Meta Knight I noticed is that he’s constantly considered an anti-hero, but he’s only been villainous once: in Revenge of Meta Knight. Every other time he’s either protecting something Kirby doesn’t understand, (Adventure and Squeak Squad) or possessed (Epic Yarn, Planet Robobot, and Star Allies)
Magistone it’s the same for Dedede, with the added category of fighting out of a grudge
HEHEHE IAMASUPAHSTARWARRIAH
True, good point. Also I just have to say you have a great name and icon
this man is chill, polite, and the vidyas are great. nice work mans o/
lol but he soundin like doctah wahwee with that king doodee over there.
Hey JK! I really appreciate you checking this one out - I’ll work on my pronunciation haha
I’ve been asking for a Kirby vid for forever now; lo and behold, it happens on Christmas. This is the perfect gift!
Glad I could finally come through - it definitely won’t be the last.
Thanks for sticking by here, Kingslayer! Always great to hear from you
Have you ever notice how Dedede looks kinda similar to Santa?
Except he steals presents instead
@@davidhower7095 no
@@annecameron4787 yes.
@@davidhower7095 he gives the most important present
Finally Kirby.
Also bit sad there was no mention of Dedede wielding a axe.
I don’t accept that reality - he’ll always be a hammer guy in my mind haha
Thanks for checking this one out, GMA!
@@skipthetutorial Fair enough.
Also the more I think about it the more I realize that most Kirby bosses would work well for this.
Kracko being another example of the dedede return formula, Kabula and Core Kabula, Holo-Defense API, ect.
@@gmazurek746 Kracko especially is versatile, since his basic abilities all stem from "he's a cloud" and even his shape varies. That's how they do so many unique things with him - like in Dreamland 2 where he pops out from the cloudy foreground, Triple Deluxe where he covers the entire sky to unleash devastating lightning strikes, and Star Allies where he splits into two.
@Justin
Kracko is also a surprisingly deep character, with him having an actual personality. It's pretty cool.
That's part of the formula. Dedede was being controlled by Taranaza when he got that axe, which made his attacks HELLA fast. Very different from the norm, indeed.
I can't wait to get dedede in smash ultimate, now that i have the game. He was one of my sm4sh mains (alongside mr.G&W and bowser jr) and he got some neat buffs i hear. I especially love playing dedede against friends and doing nothing but spamming gordows and pressing down
EDIT: i've seen some people deny dedede's villain status, but he still is kirby's arch nemesis. Star allies calls him that. He just isn't as hostile or evil as usual villains.
King Dedede is such a joy to play in that game. Absolutely love using him as an alternate with GW.
Thanks for checking this one out, Dededelete this! Always good to see you
@@skipthetutorial always glad to see you in my sub box, my dude
He isn’t a villain, read the pause description for him when you play as him in the guest star mode
@@unhingedelbows2907 He isn't a villain, but still considers himself a rival to Kirby.
*CLOBBA DAT DER KIRBY*
That's what we do best at NME
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No wonder Dedede is perfect. Merry Christmas!
He’s such a legend. One of the best bosses ever!
Merry Christmas, Diego!
This was great. I was wondering if you could do an episode on another Kirby boss, Whispy Woods. What makes Whispy interesting is that being a tree, he can't move and remains stationary during the entirety of (most) fights. Meaning you don't have to aim your Star spitting. And I think an interesting talking point would be on his attacks and how, somehow he gains even more every game, namely his basic attack, dropping apples. The attack has a neat mentality, where the game teaches you that food is good, and touching it heals you. But now touching it hurts you, the player understands they must inhale the apples and spit them back. And where the other bosses drop stars, Whispy drops apples. There's a lot of cool yet hidden things about this boss, and I wish you could talk about them.
TL;DR Please make a Whispy Woods Video and keep up the incredible work!
Hey Prisma Can - I’m thinking of a doing a kind of mini series on these reoccurring bosses like kracko, whispy woods, meta knight, and maybe even other examples like Ridley!
Thanks for checking this one out!
@@skipthetutorial A miniseries huh?
There could be one for soul bosses as well.
An explanation that fleshes out in a very organized format and keeping it very simple while also not losing focus on the the main subject you are try to state...have my respect and sub
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I could maybe explain Dedede’s reason for his food stealing ways back in the first game.
WaddleDee’s. A WaddleDees will work and serve anyone who gives them a home, a job to do, and food. Now look at Dedede. He gave the WaddleDees an entire castle to stay at, he uses them to run most of dreamland in construction, but allows them to make and go to schools and even drive(Robobot)
Dedede is just...a giant clumsy doof
The simple fact that Kirby vs Dedede has been one of the few iconic video game rivalries to actually be settled has cemented it as my favorite 😊 Their "final battle" in the electric cage in SSU remains one of my favorite boss battles in the entire series, you can just FEEL how personal it is, both these two trying to prove they have what it takes to beat the other once and for all. And when it's all said and done, they shake hands and work together as allies.
Beautiful.
Dedede main for life
Hey MCD! Smart choice - that's definitely a fun character to mess around with. I need to get better at him - I always misplace my up B and fall back down to the abyss.
Thanks for checking this one out!
@Skip the Tutorial, Always happy to see some quality content from a quality channel.
Gotta love the little continuity details on the Kirby series like how King Dedede learned to fly like Kirby to trying to be better than him on the air too because it's been stated in Smash Bros that between the first Dream Land game and Adventure/Knightmare in Dream Land he trained to be able to fly like Kirby and it's something that the player could notice because in the first game he couldn't fly but he can since Adventure.
Another great detail that I like is how the Halberd is sunked on the same ocean from Kirby Super Star in Kirby Squeak Squad.
OMG the nostalgia from listening to that music makes me want to play Squeak Squad and Epic Yarn again. Both of which I still have.
Brings back childhood memories man
This was such a nostalgic episode to work on - the Kirby series is such a nostalgia trip, I love it.
Thanks for checking this one out, Asta!
You'd be surprised how few people actually recognize the character development that took place with Dedede. Glad to see someone finally talk about it
I can't believe I missed the upload, I guess I'll hit the bell too... *ding*
Another instance of King Dedede is in Subspace Emissary where he unintentionally saves everyone by giving them a timer on their trophies to later revive them. He then, once being revived himself by Kirby, hugs him with the most adorable grin, before showing the main threat, Taboo. I'm surprised you didn't mention that other instance as Sakurai directed that one.
His character isn't the only thing that's changed over time. The music from some of his other fights are great. The Masked DeDeDe theme is god tier.
everyone else: listening to how king dedede develops a good boss battle system throughout years
me: loving the music in the background because i played kirby epic yarn and is too addicted
This was a very nice analysis. I never really thought about it much (aside from the story, I love Dedede's progression through the series).
Meta Knight is very similar. He fights with honor. Always providing Kirby a sword before the battle (except in Squeak Squad, or when he is controlled sometimes). You never actually defeat Meta Knight. If he loses his mask, he is in shame, and simply runs from battle. He wants to be seen as a great warrior, but no one would take him seriously if he was cute. Kirby himself isn't seen as a warrior in his own games. He is still seen as cute and lovable, or not very smart. Meta knight only fights Kirby when he finds it necessary. In Kirby's Adventure, he tested Kirby (supposedly) to see if he would be able to win against Nightmare... It was his first time meeting him after all.
He doesn't appear again until Super Star... Where he grows tired of Dreamland's lazy lifestyle and wants to rule it to fix the problems he sees. However, Kirby comes and fights him, and he allows his crew to escape, and then has a completely fair dual with Kirby. I feel like this was also a test... He knew Kirby would oppose him, and he wanted to see how powerful he truly was.
The next time he appears is in Squeak Squad... He acts completely uncharacteristic. Not trusting Kirby to fight off Dark Nebula. He jsut hides that it even exists and runs away with the chest... However, everyone acts weird in Squeak Squad... Kirby attacks Dedede for no reason. Dedede attacks Kirby for no reason... and of course, Meta Knight acts very stupidly.
Ever since Meta Knight's Revenge, he trusts Kirby and fights alongside him when possible. He's still a lone wolf, but he knows that there are some things that only Kirby can do.
the thing about Squeak Squad is that Kirby is for once in the wrong... and Meta Knight knows that. Yes, he could have communicated better. But as it was going, Kirby was probably going to open Dark Nebula's chest himself and most likely get possessed. Meta Knight isn't fighting for honor now- he's fighting to stop Kirby from hurting himself by getting the chest.
The game itself acknowledges that MK was right, and THAT is why (I think) Meta Knight doesn't give you a sword when you fight him.
That is exactly why Meta Knight doesn't give him a sword.
he's still very uncharacteristic though. By that point he knew how powerful Kirby was and should've trusted him to fight him off. You are right about the possession thing, but stealing the chest with no communication whatsoever is completely stupid. I'm sure if Daroach knew there was a dark evil inside, he wouldn't have opened the chest, and seeing as not wanting anyone to open the chest is why Meta Knight stole it in the first place, it could've been a whole lot easier for him.
@@DaNintendude yeah I don't think communication is Meta's strong side
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Nice vid, and a great overview of how Dedede went from Villain-to-Hero!
Kind of surprised you didn't mention Kirby Battle Royale. That game kind of had Dedede fall back into a Villainous Role.
Hey TWG - I mainly wanted to focus on the mainline games and core titles here past some mentions to the other games like Epic Yarn or Mass Attack.
Thanks for bringing this up though!Good to hear from you
@@skipthetutorial Heh, that's fair!
Battle Royale almost seems more like it's a reminder that Dedede was once a villain long ago, even tho it's plot is basically "Have Kirby lose in my tournament and fail to win the big prize" than anything.
Nice Boss/character analyse of Dedede. I do like Dedede's progression of the series from Kirby's biggest rival to Kirby's biggest ally.
Thanks for checking this one out, MKXB!
Dedede is definitely one of the best bosses in gaming, and his progression plays a huge part into that in my mind
Its cool that you dive into kirby. The games have some of the best bosses in video game history.
*Dedede is the definition of improving perfection for he is going beyond normal boss battles*
I open the video and get greeted with "King DooDee"
Yeah the allergy season apparently makes me forget some syllables haha
Thanks for checking this one out, PsYan!
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And, yeah! I really agree with your thoughts on Hal's boss design and character arcs. Still waiting on them to make you fight with a Dedede AI as your only ally.
8:32 This was probably Peach's inspiration for joining smash
We need a King Dedede Game, or at least a Kirby game that doesn't star Kirby. Kirby is missing!
Dedede's Drum Dash Deluxe.
More Nintendo spin off games need to happen. Captain toad and Luigi’s Mansion really have me chomping at the bit for similar genre breaks in the Kirby franchise.
Thanks for checking this one out, 3.14 Dragon!
Dedede's a good guy?! Wow, I never knew. I'm happy for Dedede and all but I think it's important for video game character to have well defined and classic antagonists. Sonic has Eggman, Mario has Bowser, Mega Man has Dr. Wily. The Kirby creators know this too, that's why they keep making Dedede possessed or something so he can fight Kirby. But it's not the same if he's not really evil. Sort of takes away from classic nature of the good guy fighting the bad guy and devalues Dedede as a antagonists. You're video makes it clear that he's not even that bad of a dude!
I love how game-wise Dedede has become friendlier after his Masked Dedede fight in Super Star Ultra in which he outright says something like "lets end this rivalry now"
I liked inmediately before watching the video for the tittle alone. Truer words have never been spoken.
The King is a prophet. I love this guy so much haha
Thanks for checking this one out, Bill!
Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas, Pun! Great to see you again - I hope your year finishes out great and you have a wonderful 2019!
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Dedede is buetiful
His whole character is a work of art.
Thanks for checking this one out, DF! Good to hear from you as always
I do like how Hal Laboratory is more consistent when it comes to King Dedede's character development. They put a lot more effort in having Kirby enteract with him and give us unique and creative ways to flesh out Kirby's fight against him.
A King Dedede video is the holiday gift because he is just that wonderful and perfect.
He’s such a great character - one of the all times for video game bosses!
Thanks for checking this one out, Julia - and happy holidays!
Thanks for the great video! Happy holidays! :)
Revenge of the king (masked dedede fight) is really the last time he fights Kirby as an enemy. Every game since then he’s either been an ally, or possessed when you fight him.
I absolutely love the super ripped, muscleman Dedede. It's such an awesome design: equal parts amusing and badass.
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I really really Like this video. The commentary and the small editing quirks are what make you one of my favorite video game analysis channels. Just a quick suggestion tho. I wanted to watch this video later but I forgot the title of it. So i googled "dedede boss battle analysis" and this video didn't show up? Do you think you can put the word "analysis" into your video tags so it can be easier to find your videos through the search bar? This boss battle breakdown series is one that a lot of youtube kiddos are wanting to see and I'd love for you to expand your audience. Thanks so much Dude and Keep on pumping out this sexy sexy content
5:31 well hello there Mario and Peach, I didn't see you there
Why are they there?!
This Video Is A Great Christmas Gift For It Goes Over One My Favorite Sort Of Villains (he hasn’t really done anything evil in a while ok let’s just say anti hero) King Dee Dee Dee
Merry Christmas, ImSoR! Dedede is a legend - always happy to talk about him.
Thanks for checking this one out!
One exception can be made for Dedede to keep being the final boss of games where the stakes are just competition and rivalry with Kirby, rather than part of some evil plan - like Kirby Battle Royale or Kirby Fighters 2. These are games where Dedede isn't a villain, but still gets to be the main antagonist in a competition.
You know something? If there even a new series about Kirby, then hands down want to see Dedede development as character.
Can you do a Video on "*(Astral Birth) Void" since it has a TON of Interesting Stuff and even the Unlock Ties into the Boss' Design.
Let me know if you're Planning to do that! :3
His Squeak Squad iteration is atrociously easy.
Yer content is really enjoyable man. Keep it up
Hey thanks for checking it out, wonderguardstalker! Glad to hear you enjoyed it - it means a lot that you took the time to watch it!
Masked Dedede was Kirby’s last actual fight with Dedede from what I can remember
His appearance in subspace was perfect.
This is just one instance where the upload date makes the video better.
Haha - merry Christmas, SF! Dedede Claus came through this year.
Thanks for checking this one out!
5:27 okay this is actually my #1 favorite thing about kirby. it has a kind of positive outlook on people. if you have had an argument with someone on the internet, just remember, that other person is probably just like Dedede. misguided. that, or YOU are Dedede. its hard to tell.
I absolutely love how The King has gone from the Bowser of the franchise to one of Kirby's most recurring allies. However at the same time I hope he hasn't lost all of his boss status, and may again some day challenge Kirby of his own volition...
Fun Fact: Dedede trained his body to fly like kirby after being defeated by in Kirby's Dreamland.
He may not be a major antagonist, but he's still da king! Which is why I really appreciate how they handle his redemption and growth into more of a frenemy, while still being the same king we all know and love.
On top of being fun to fight, one thing I'll give Dedede credit for is that he never fights the exact same way twice. He always uses some new move or item, when he's not possessed that is
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Including spin-offs, my guess was eight. There were seven. So close, but yet so far...
I wonder if Dedede has something intrinsic about him that makes him easier to possess. After all, Dark Matter chose him as a vessel three times, and the Jamba Heart also targeted him. It really makes one think.
And I also love how the Masked Dedede fight has had an effect on all canon since. He said that that fight would settle things between them, and he’s never been antagonistic to Kirby since. Every fight has been due to possession or brainwashing.
Dedede formula: swing your hammer a couple times at the ground, chase the enemy by floating like a giant blue balloon of destruction, if all else fails....attempt cannibalism
revenge of the king is actually a retelling of the extra mode from dreamland 1. a much harder version of the main game (or spring breeze, itself a remake of dreamland 1) all with the intent on getting revenge on you, by upgrading both himself and his entire army. with spring breeze and revenge of the king having the entirety of super stars contents sandwiched between them... you could say super star ultra takes place before adventure in terms of a timeline.
You only started this channel 5 months ago and you are already so far
Hey another great vid Skip. I couldn’t agree more about Dedede being a great guy. Plus that masked dedede theme too. You have a good holiday season alright?
Hey Mr. Brightside! Thanks for checking this one out.
Definitely hoping for a Dedede spin-off at some point, I think that would be a blast.
Have a great holiday!
This is also a reason why I love the EX bosses in kirby games. They take the original attacks, and tweak them so that they are harder. But, HAL does it in a way that still makes the bosses feel new instead of just boring.
I’d love to examine that topic down the road in more detail - thanks for bringing it up, BDee3!
Good to hear from you!
And Deluxe bosses. . .
And Parallels. . .
And 2.0s. . .
Oh yeah, nothing like a good prayer to start the day.
I mean, what did ya expect? He IS already *PERFECT*
Cool! Have a happy holiday!
Hey PS! Thanks for checking this one out - happy holidays!
5:02 "More as a friend than a foe of the franchise" So you're saying King Dedede's a tsundere?
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Big ol' Dedede is my Favorite character in gaming. Period. At this stage (when conscious) hes done more good then bad (or at least attempted to) and whenever hes possessed, he makes up for whatever he was forced to do even if it wasn't his fault. Ya know what, Taranza wasn't far off mistaking the royal goofball as Dreamlands hero
King Dedede: I NEEDA MOUSE WITH THE ARROW THINGY TO CLOBBAH DAT DERE SUBSCRIBE BUTTON!
Daroach: Were you looking for someone?
King Dedede: (Facepalms)
I'd say hes possessed 8 times.
I’ll give that one to you, Alexander! Adding up the main games, spin off titles, and the one where he’s possessed multiple times - the number comes to about there. Nice work!
Thanks for checking this one out!
@@skipthetutorial You are welcome, I really love these kinds of videos.
Dedede in Blowout Blast and Battle Royale: Triple D in Triple Dimensions
This is why more people should talk about kirby
Dedede isn't actually a bad person, he just wants food, and he keeps getting possessed.
I guess we could say that dedede looks T H I C C
Great vid subbed
Look at that charisma!
Long live King Dedede! May his reign be great and his thiccness be greater!
I dont usually subscribe on the first video I see, but clobberin' dat dere subscribe button sounded like such a good idea.
If you look at his description in the guest star mode in Kirby star allies, your point is proven as it talks about Dedede wanting redededemtion, not to mention the Dedede tour in triple deluxe.
What a triumph is THAT?!
“Dedede, you need an exorcist.”
I consider there are three periods in Kirby/Dedede's relationship. They started off as ENNEMIES, but his action at the Fountain of Dreams opened the door for the guy not being a total villain.
After Kirby saves him twice from being possessed by Dark Matter, he begrudgingly allies himself to Kirby in 64, mostly out of pride apparently. From that point on, they are RIVALS with a tense relationship, sometimes fighting but never without a reason.
Finally, when Dedede talks about settling their grudge, he means it. Once defeated in Revenge of the King, he abandons their rivalry, and become FRIENDS with Kirby. He wholeheartedly accompanies him in adventures, and whenever they fight, he is invariably controlled or possessed.
Now HAL just needs to make him his own platformer where HE'S the hero.