A Case Almost Too Disturbing To Mention: Elizabeth Olten
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- In today's true crime and murder documentary, we're covering the chilling case of a girl who bragged in her diary about murdering a 9-year-old. While investigating the disappearance of 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten, detectives would come across something utterly horrifying: a diary entry written by 15-year-old neighbor Alyssa Bustamante, bragging about committing a sickening murder. This solved case rocked the small town of St. Martins, Missouri. No one could believe that a 15-year-old girl could commit such a heinous crime. To this day, Alyssa is serving time at a women's correctional center. Join us for a true crime storytime covering the chilling case of Alyssa Bustamante.
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I like that the title has the victims name instead of the girl that took her life. You don’t see that very often and i find it really respectful
yeah me too it’s definitely better to do that kinda prevents a fanbase for the killer
Very disrespectful
@@crystalwiebe6961 care to elaborate??
@8trxck what
@@tamae0692 well that clearly didn't work didn't it 😹😹😹
Anybody thinking she should be released is just as crazy as her. That diary statement was absolutely insane.
Not "insane";
EVIL.
@@themaskedtalker2171 it's disturbing
@@nopenoway1519 you can tell smh, I ALMOST feel sorry for her
High security mental psychiatric unit at least. Prison at most.
Even tho our brains r not formed until adulthood, kids don’t just kill. Especially in such a calculated and cold blooded way. She hurt so much she wanted someone else to also.
I have a lot of questions about the "stability" of a household that allows a kid to write on their walls with blood. Alyssa obviously needed help that she wasn't getting.
Honestly, how does no one smell it or even see blood on the walls? It wasn’t like she was trying to hide it either
@@depressedchickenman3682 blood doesn’t have a smell tho ?
@@Ivy-og5xd idk about others but me personally can smell blood. And ion like it☹️
@@user-dn6lz8gu1e really ? What does it smell like to you ?
@@Ivy-og5xd
You can typically smell blood if you are close enough; it smells distinctively metallic, mostly due to the iron content.
The guilt that the mother must feel for simply letting her daughter play. It's obviously not her fault but I'm sure she must blame herself.
Imagine the guilt of her younger sister who has to live with the knowledge that she unknowingly helped get her friend murdered.
she probably gets nightmares nowadays
She shouldn’t feel any guilt, she just wanted to play with her fiend
@@Mort-es4vl for some people they should, for some it's the only way of moving forward
@@Mort-es4vl despite the fact that she shouldn’t feel guilty, that doesn’t change the fact that she probably does. The human mind is often self destructive.
Okay for those who are on this 50/50 scale on wether she should be feeling guilty or not understand this: she was just a child at this very moment when her older sister wanted her to get her friend, she was obeying her sister's request and had no idea as to what was happening at all. So in conclusion she was absolutely innocent from the beginning and end of this crime that was committed, there is no way she understood why her sister wanted to grab her and should not feel guilty. Although she probably blames herself for doing what her sister told her to do.
This was obviously premeditated so why did she get convicted of second-degree murder, and not first-degree murder????
I guess because of her age. People are too lenient towards teens but why? If they're fully aware of the magnitude of their actions.
Plea deal probably
@@oAgL214 while I definitely don't think this girl should be released, I will say that teenagers definitely don't have a full understanding of consequences of their actions. Yeah they understand punishment but I don't think they can really understand the "magnitude" of death. Like how permanent, how finite, and how painful it really is. Especially of they've never been confronted with it in their personal lives.
Definitely NOT an excuse, and I think she should continue to be locked away.
@@doperagu8471 as a teenager who was s.a by my adopted dad and mom(uncle not by blood but his wife who was my great aunt) and I never wanted to kill anyone. I knew death was permanent and I knew right from wrong and that killing was evil. You don't need to be a genius to understand that. That's no excuse she knew Right from wrong.
@@native_beauty1340 ya I agree - not an excuse for sure. Just saying that not every 15 year old has a great understanding of the finality of death, especially if they've never been confronted with it personally. But this girl was obviously disturbed and knew what she was doing was wrong. Not understanding the full magnitude of death is not an excuse to not knowing what's right and wrong. I don't think I had a full understanding of death at that age, but I also knew that you don't kill people.
The theory that Prozac is linked to violent behaviour doesn't explain the fact that she killed a younger child who couldn't fight back. It wasn't a fit of rage it was premeditated and evil
Agreed. I was on Prozac successfully for years. My mother is on it right now. There have been some side effects in TEENS taking it, including some aggression etc., it doesn't excuse away a crime like this.
Very insightful…..it would have been an excellent argument for the prosecution!
@@marilyndresser2377 thank you
@@SamanthaMagdalenayou are so right
she should have been sentenced to capital punishment; she's a bad seed and a hopeless case and will always be dangerous.
Of you haven't watched the full police interrogation, you should. A very well conducted one, by the investigator. It's also devastating to see and hear the reaction of her grandmother, that was with her in the interrogation room... Extremely sad.
Yes I watched it. The guttural, visceral reaction when the grandmother realized the truth was absolutely equal parts horrifying and heartbreaking 💔
Where I can watch a real video ?
Where i can watch this video ,I mean full police interrogation ...
That interrogation was ruined by the minor's advocate acting like she was also a detective. The murder girl's confession was thrown out because of that.
@@mederrayimbekov97 On this channel lol.
Man I love this narrators voice. Its like a legitimate crime show voice over from way back in the late 90s.
He sounds like that guy from factfaction I think it's the channel name
My favorite narrator was the first guy that did forensic files
i watch this dude on 1.5 speed lol
Like unsolved mysteries with the previous narrator
Is not it artificial?
When even her dad thinks she should be locked up forever... I think you should listen.
He just didn't want to raise her lol
He can’t even see the small child when he’s released as he probably hoped because his killed her. And no one dislikes child killers more than a person who has to bunk with one I bet.
It was the victims dad. But yes she should never get out.
The dad saw a opportunity and cowardly acted upon the modern solution
It wasn't her dad tho
Start teaching kids how to deal with their emotions and negative thoughts !!!!
Right on. Messed up.
Therapy / good parenting > drugs
@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC ok 👌
Right?
Nah, let's just pump them full of drugs and hormones instead...that'll help.
@@tablescissors they have been for years already , basic mentoring in dealing with pain and hurtful emotions is just a start , our minds our sometimes our own worst enemy
She chose to kill an innocent child for no reason besides "I wanted to know how it would feel".
I won't ever trust this person outside prison, drugs or no.
would never wish that on someone no matter what they've done, though jail time is needed and deserved but to suffer for their whole life is the exact same description of hell and I would never wish hell on a person because if i do I'm just as crazy and mental as they are.
@@olivejar5897 there is no problem with that with fucked up ppl like this loool
@@olivejar5897 there's gotta be a limit to that imo. People like Bundy Dahmer and ramirerz deserve nothing but prison
@LunaticLuni monsters like them and anyone else who kills for pleasure deserve a lot lot more than just prison. They get fed, warmth, a roof over their head. Their victims felt terror and pain in their final moments, why should they not get the same? We should not be keeping evil alive, in the face of overwhelming, irrefutable evidence, evil should be removed from this world.
regardless her behavior was really erratic, prozac probably caused her to rapid cycle. she needed to be on a mood stabelizer or antipsychotic. like im actually baffled when she had a suicide attempt and mood swings and very strange behavior they expected prozac to help ☠️
She looks like an average emo kid being goofy and edgy, most of them are perfectly nice and innocent people on the inside. It's a shame this one turned out to be a monster.
I must be getting old?! What is an emo kid? Is it another term for Gothic? Which I think it is but I’d like to be sure? If so I went to school with some kids, girls & boys who were Goth and actually one of them was the smartest kid in our calculus class! Not to mention very well mannered. He like his friends just really liked the look or style! I agree it doesn’t make them bad kids by any means.
@@coffeecrimegal5968 yeah pretty close. Just a different look and music taste.
Exactly. She looked like a lot of my exes from highschool times, I found that deeply disturbing too, how normal she looked, like your average emo/scene.
@@coffeecrimegal5968 Gothics believe that the world is dark and terrible. Emo, short for Emotional, believe they are the terrible ones, unfortunately true Emo's are known for self harm and suicide attempts, which have unfortunately been so common with those whom claim allegiance to the ideology that it has become one of the main stereotypes of Emo's. They are often just emotional and feel misunderstood, the style is a way of feeling beautiful and there's a lot of support online for that look as well so they often get verified for their edgy takes and are therefore encouraged to go further with it.
@@coffeecrimegal5968 what do you mean getting old, emos were around in the late 80s,90s and they were in fashion even in late 00s.
The "She would take disturbing photos of herself" part made me laugh. I think anyone who went through highschool early to mid 00's will understand.
An edgy fringe photo with the rawr hand
An edgy photo with too much black make up and shooting herself.
Someone didn't pay much attention to emo or scene back then lol.
Yeah, those photos were pretty standard Myspace fare back in the day lol. I knew a bunch of girls that had similar pics up. None of them have murdered anyone, at least to my knowledge. Just stupid edgy teenage shite.
@Alyssa I was a part of it before emo was a fashion style, when it was emotional hardcore.
It phased out by 2006/2007 and remained as a fashion and lost clarity. After 2007 new generations took the style up but anyone with the right hair and eye make up was "emo" at that point.
It wasn't real, that next generation considered MCR and Green Day to be emo because it fit the style forgetting that it was a genre of music not a look.
Basically any people after 2006-2007 were imitating the fashion but the genre was dead/dying then.
@@PumpkinHoard none of them murdered…. that you know of
@@callmetravesty8762 “i was _____ when it was cool” is a new one for me
@@SafeBurrito5465 Putting words in peoples mouths is not smart.
My point is there is a lack of understanding and a big difference between the emotional hardcore music scene and the lingering emo fashion.
If that's what you took from that, then that's on you.
Possible release? Nope, keep her there for life. There is no excuse for such a blatant disregard for life.
I disagree. Capital punishment is cheaper for us taxpayers.
@@JasperRoth
Yes, good riddance
that's it, you're absolutely right
@@JasperRoth I agree!
I agree with Crafted Voxel.
I've been friends Elizabeth's older brother since we were little kids (we're now 26-27) Elizabeth was such a sweetheart and all of mid Missouri will happily tell her to go straight to hell where she belongs. But before that, she can rot in prison. Also, Alyssa used to babysit one of my closest friends.
Sincerely, All of Mid Missouri
Um, that’s a pretty bad dangling modifier there 😂
Toward the end of the video where he says she has supporters and people want to be her friend I was like really? I wonder if any of those people would like to go for a walk with her in the woods.
@@mariakelly1059 I never knew her personally but I too deal with mental health problems and Ik people that deal with mental health problems too, and she wasn’t not in the right mindset
People like that should be locked up aswell to say they love her for what she did means they get off on that sick shit the cold blooded killing of a child is fukn sick and if people think Allysa is great well they should be locked in a cage with her
NOT NO BUT HELL NO. BUT I WOULDN'T MIND TAKING HER FOR A WALK IN THE WOODS. TRUE MENACE TO SOCIETY,😭😭😭🙏🙏
@@mariakelly1059 AT THAT POINT I DOUBT IT. SHE'S OBVIOUSLY DEMENTED AND SHE WOULD DO IT AGAIN I'M SURE.😭🙏
@@magicalpasta5462 YOU THINK 🤔
A alot people come from bad childhoods or have mental issues,but don't kill people or animals,she killed because she wanted to and the fact she planned it, shows she was fully aware of what she was doing. RIP Elizabeth Olten💕🙏💕
Yes that is true but not all people cope with abuse and neglect the same way. Killers and serial killers, all had terrible childhoods, not saying that is a justification but the mind is a mysterious thing.
Just because some people are abused and live in torment and never lash out doesn't make it okay to do a shifty job of raising your kids. Making excuses for abusing people is not right.
Not *all* serial killers etc had bad upbringings, most, but not all. Didnt Dahmer say he had a normal childhood? (I might be wrong)
I did child psychology as part of my teaching degree. All the statistics show abused children often become desensitised & see abuse as a norm they model & repeat. It's also an attempt to avoid their victim role & take back their lost power. Some children won't abuse, but they may be attracted to relationships with abusers because it's familiar & again, they see it as a norm . And some children will come out of it & build a happy life. You can't lump everyone in the same category. Humans are way more complex than that psychologically.
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. NO REMORSE AT ALL. ,😭😭🙏🙏
You know what's odd. Having a teen mother doesn't automatically condemn you to a life of sadness and crime. I'm typing this in all seriousness and respect for what happened to these young people. A friend of mine who was actually only two days older than me went to school for almost our whole life. When I was older I found/figured out why his mom was so pretty. He was born just after his mom's 15th birthday. He had two loving, non drug abusing parents that raised him and he turned out pretty much ok. It's not all about automatic condemnation for a child of teen parents. It also has a lot to do with their support system, and extended family relationships. Just trying to put a positive little light on this horrific story I guess. Peace everyone. 😎
I agree. I had my first daughter at 17 my then bf was 15. I’m now married to him with 3 children, a very successful business and a degree in science of psychology. In this case it seems like both parents were disfuncional and unstable. Their drug and alcohol use could have also contributed to her being born with mental illness’s.
Hmm, kinda sounds like you re condoning the impregnation of teenagers.
It's about taking responsibility of your actions. If you're not ready, the child will be a victim. But if you're ready to step up and move forward, the child will learn and have a deserved childhood. Sometimes we make mistakes, but how we react to them is crucial. We do our level best with what we have at that time.
I agree. My mom was 27 when she had me, she did drugs and drank alcohol while pregnant with me and she’s still an addict and drunk...I’m 32. She didn’t raise any of her kids, my grandma did. It’s stupid that people act like grown ass adults don’t have kids that they should have never had. I was a teen mom and not a drug user or alcoholic. I had my first at 17. Anyone at any age can be a bad parent.
@@reverendmarvelous2243 maybe you should learn to read and comprehend because he never condoned teen pregnancy. He was obviously making a specific point.🙄
I can't imagine the way Emma had felt after hearing what happened to Elizabeth, knowing that she unknowingly helped to make it happen :(
She’s prolly still stuck w it
@@iamgreatness6649 must be
It’s honestly tragic to see that there are some people who are supporting her in the comments. antidepressants don’t make u premeditate murder. she’s evil.
xactly my dude...exactly...U said it in very little words...its just evil & always will be.
im on lexapro and no they dont
@Nairu Kawa no one is born evil, but as soon as they gain consciousness then they are fully aware of their actions, i understand that people do horrible things such as hurting others or being mean out of sheer frustration but going as far as murder is inexcusable.
@Nairu Kawa i am currently 14 years old, the amount of f uped things i have seen, such as horrendous cases of murder that made me disgusted, yet here i am, extremely disgusted by seeing how can a child kill another child and say "the feeling was good"
I know you are not defending her, but by any means it will justify what she had done, its inexcusable(or however you spell it)
she did because she wanted to, she might had a hard past and it could come in play for her actions, she still did it, she shouldnt be released, she is a threat
Evil isn’t a thing
"I'd love to be friends with her!" All fun and games until you piss her off during an arguement and she decides to dig your grave 💀
Lol not even that, she would just do it for funzies 🤪 and the grave is already buried before you even meet her lol that was her hobby
@@ItPixie “her hobby”
@@LunaticLuni yea if you watch her interrogation she says it there
@@ItPixie clearly a lie though, who digs graves as a hobby? Serial killers,
@@LunaticLuni watch her interrogation and you’ll see
I could understand the Prozac argument if it were the case that Alyssa had committed the act in the “heat of the moment” during some teenage disagreement. Calculating a methodical plan to lure a girl to the woods, premeditatively digging a grave for her and slitting her throat doesn’t really suggest a person experiencing violent side effects
I'd disagree, if murder isn't violent then what is? You are more likely to be violent, doesn't mean that it's going to be sudden. Same as a kleptomaniac could also be more careful about there stealings to avoid being caught.
@@goopguy548 While i agree with you that some drugs may affect someone's behavior even on a long period of time im less enclined to believe that Prozac turns people into heartless demons. What she did to that poor child is beyond reason. Her actions where un-explainable on a human and moral point of view. she meticulously planned to not just kill but enjoyed stabbing that poor child 8 times before burying her into the ground to hide her deed. She knew perfectly what she was doing, planned the thing long in advance and then proceeded to describe in her journal in detail how she enjoyed the murder. To me thats the heart of a demon that will never live a normal life and be safe to others around her
@@TheRainstormer I 💯 agree with you, this was premeditated and the victim was younger and couldn't fight back which shows was calculated and medication should not be used as an excuse.
@@goopguy548 there saying that they would get it if it was a spare of the moment but it was planned out which is a lot different
@@louisea6129 she originally was going to kill her brothers so ya it was premeditated she changed the plans killed her instead it wasnt in the heat of the moment and was well thought out even changed targeted victims
As a teenager, I only imagine feeling guilty for not completing chores, homework or taking clothes from my sister. Never do I imagine feeling guilty for murdering someone. She needed help and her guardians should’ve paid more attention to her action like honestly
It could be the guardians fault but she could of just been a psychopath
I love that the title regards the victims name and not the killer :))
It’s important to remember the victims rather than the monsters in these cases.
I agree
@Serge S Damn, good luck surviving.
@Serge S “Purge night.” As if that’s a thing. Delusional loser confirmed, don’t even bother taking to me.
Muted.
@Serge S ok edgelord
@Serge S doubt that you stand much of a chance as a 9 year old against a 15 year old with a knife. „Survival of the fittest“ applies to a wild environment where multiple species fight for survival. Not only was elizabeth also a human like alyssa so same species, but alyssa was in no danger. Nothing about this has to do with „survival“. Alyssas life wasnt in danger so why „survival“? Please elaborate your thought process.
I do not like how this leans into demonizing alternative culture. Her "edginess" has nothing to do with her hideous crimes.
If you're young and reading this, struggling with self harm and turning to morbid art or music, I just wanna say you'll be okay. You're not weird or broken or anything like that.
@@sentryogmixmaster acceptance of self & others will help heal and nurture all relationships within your life. be kind 🖤
Atm they are not normal and broken. Most of them will get normal when they grow up but their is a reason you want to stand out and delimit yourself from others. they are broken inside, but it can be fixed.
@@sentryogmixmaster what the hell 😭 just because i like wearing black and listen to alternative music does not mean i’m going to go kill someone.. i’m a straight A senior in high school and i’m going to go to college to become a doctor. Just because i like different things does not make me a freak.
@@sentryogmixmaster i would be more scared of u than any alternative person. ur weird
@@77miniskull77 Dude, a doctor? I mean, you are going to open bodies and fix them, you have to cut them open, right?
I love listening to folks explaining emo culture haha. it’s sad that Alyssa didn’t get the help she needed. the tragic loss of life is devastating.
"She painted her nails black"
I look down at my freshly painted black nails.. 👀😂😈🤘🏼
The stands of hair 😂
@@13MorningStar666 lol fr
They tried helping her. Some people just choose to be evil.
It's much like the Satanic Panic of the 90s. Some of us are still scarred by the treatment, and just wanted to be free, individual and happy in ourselves. While looking stylishly dead. ;P
remember that being emo/scene/goth/punk/grunge/WHATEVER does not *inherently* make you a bad/evil person. however i am not defending her by saying this
She is already evil ever since she was born
you seem evil
@@jasonvoorhees5640 wuh
No it's exactly what being emo means! Evil!
@@Rvh1 oh yeah totally how could i have forgotten
I think the fact she dug 2 graves tells me she had plans for at least one more victim. Horrific
Her brothers
Yep, her sister Emma
@@denofthieves6587 it's possible Emma since she was one of the last people to see Alyssa alive
@Dionne Cowley It's almost like you didn't watch the video.
Or planned a possible murder suicide?
A persons' appearance has nothing to do with their interior motives, just ask Ted Bundy
💯 so true
@Serchic Rams What the hell does his lying have anything to do with his dress code? We're just saying that the dress does not make the person's intent, you numskull.
@@DemBigOlEyes thank you
God I can't imagine the guilt and burden that Emma must feel for being used in this :(
What if she wanted it all along ? 🤔
@@aba22125 she was a innocent little girl lol, even if she wanted it nobody will ever know
@@luci.1140 yo she was like 8 foo I doubt she knew her older sister would do anything
Man I love this narrator's voice. You don’t see that very often and I find it really respectful. It’s vital to remember the victims rather than the monsters in these true crime cases.
We as a society need to start teaching kids how to deal with their emotions and negative thoughts...that diary statement was just absolutely insane. St. Martins will never be the same.
I was actually in prison with this girl. Sat and talked with her too. She said that she might get released because of the new law where she will get released or get new trial because she was underage when convicted. They changed the law with the underage convictions since being in prison. Smdh She had a girlfriend in there and she even said she had a lot of people as her fans that kept money on her books so she's actually living the life in prison.
Jeez. That sounds terrible. What a piece of trash.
She deserves to stay in prison for the rest of her life.
I'm glad you got out and I hope you are living an amazing life now. You are worthy of a much better life than prison. God bless you.
Ugh! Sounds like a true narcissistic sociopath! She truly never learned from her “mistakes” (I don’t like even calling them that bc she KNEW what she was doing), and she definitely enjoys all the fame & notoriety she’s getting for what she did. She’s the EXACT type of person who can NEVER be rehabilitated… bc she sees no wrong in what she’s done. I hope she never ever sees the outside of prison walls again!
On a separate note, I hope that you are doing good now & that you’ve been able to overcome any of the things that caused you to end up in prison too. As someone else commented, you do deserve better than that!
She's surviving GP ??
Yes thats horrible but a 15 year old is aware of whats wrong or not. Now she has to face accountability.Something which she will never forget RIP little girl Elizabeth. Sad that life was short for you hon. Prayers for all affected.
She absolutely knows killing is wrong
@@dawnsutton928 yes but she just doesn't car, she loved it, and would do it again if given the chance. That's just how natural born demons are >:(
@@starquaked What’s scary is that she will still be alive and well when she gets out of prison.
@@censoredquotes3518 yea for real and ready to kill again
apparently shes "famous" in prison (according to an ex inmate)
She doesn't deserve to have 'followers' just because they feel like she's edgy. She's a cruel person who shows no regrets or change.
I was n prison with her. It's crazy she has a whole fan club and girlfriends and her books r stacked
@@kshejohnson6649 wow thats crazy
That's messed up because she killed an innocent defenceless child for no reason, and if ever given the chance, will do the same to any one of her stupid "friends."
She had followers cause she was an emo kid then
She was in the emo kid scene 😳 they gone back her up
I've taken a few antidepressants, the worse one gave me bizarre anxiety (something I've never had) and kept giving me strange reactions when I looked at people with beards. It hit me like I was looking at some form of facial distortion, even though I knew wasn't. Drugs can really override your brain, but killing children!? No way man...
Ya, they always want to blame anything other than the person themself. Everyone's a victim and it's not their fault! Bunch a hooblah
Yes way, in fact
Simple question,how do medicate a symptom with no understanding of the brain?Answer=they have now and always guessed
I dont know, the 11 times increase in violent behavior is kind of significant. Though I would imagine its more of a in the moment thing. Not a planed event like this clearly was.
@@silkroad1201
are you victim blaming the dead kid?
I hope she never gets out of prison.
She'll get out.
Knowing the legal system, her time will be cut in half. For "good behavior of course".
@@beCoCOi I seen men get far more time for doing far less. Honestly I hate the American justice system.
@@censoredquotes3518 America is way better than The Netherlands. A murderer here gets like 5 to 10 years only. There are not a lot of cases where someone gets like 20 years of prison.
@@censoredquotes3518 same
Man this case was messed the fuck up! But that poor little girl 😞 May she Rest In Peace.
agreed hun very sad indeed rip lil one
😪so sad
That poor little innocent girl. My heart goes out to her family. May she rest in peace.
Stumbled onto this vid and within the first 20 seconds I was reminded of when I used to be stuck sick at home watching forensic files on day time tv. Talk about nostalgia
Bad childhood, mental health issues (the antidepressants) are not an excuse for murder. She led her easiest target, a 9 year old, straight to her death and it was brutal. She knew what she was doing. And that urge will probably be a part of her twisted mind forever. She shouldn't be released. At all.
+ hate for herself that make her anti-social and sadistic , unstable family patterns and maybe she was a bit jealous about the little girl . How did the therapists didnt notice it .
Because thats what you think sane people do?
Your comment is bull$hit,you don’t know what Alyssa went through or the sort of life she lead so there’s no need for you to be ignorantly moving that filth spewing gob of yours.People like couldn’t which is why knuckleheads come up with these ludicrous assumptions when in reality,unhinged chowderheads like you don’t even know the first thing about the kind of traumas she was exposed to during her childhood that actually led to her developing such an abominable ,twisted and menacing mentality and committing such a hideous crime in the first place.
Hey EWU crew. Hope that everyone is having a good day. I feel so bad for that little girl, she didn't deserve what happened to her. Alyssa needed some therapy, it's too bad she didn't get help sooner. Sending love to their parents, who lost their daughters.
some therapy?! No I think she needed a LOT more than "some therapy", my non professional guess would be a few years of closed psychiatric ward and then close monitoring for life.
@@raphaellavictoria01 I totally agree Alyssa seems to have not only ASPD, but also BPD, clear cluster B
Hey
@@raphaellavictoria01 that's not psychopathy, it's more likely sociopathy, but she was lead down a bad walk because of her life. Plenty of psychopaths and sociopaths that never kill anyone
would never wish that on someone no matter what they've done, though jail time is needed and deserved but to suffer for their whole life is the exact same description of hell and I would never wish hell on a person because if i do I'm just as crazy and mental as they are.
I’ve seen a documentary about this ,
She said that she enjoyed seeing the light go out in the little girl who she muttered s eyes,
She shouldn’t ever be released
Guys, bring emo was not a "contrast" in 2008. There were thousands of us, and although she, in particular, was disturbed, most of us just liked loud music and scary movies. It shouldn't be considered a sign of mental illness.
Actually...
She took someone's life and felt a rush that she described as amazing and pretty enjoyable. Like a dog that tasted blood and liked it. There is not going back from enjoying killing. Much less at a young age. She cannot be released. She planned it, and loved it. She could only worsen with time.
She needs therapy in jail
@@xCDF-pt8kj dude you need to seek professional help
@@xCDF-pt8kj well that's just untrue
i used to think like you but it's a very selfish and ultimately self sabotaging way of thinking. You arent impressing anyone with that edgy outlook and no one thinks it's cool
i chose to get professional help when i most needed it. i never tried to kill myself but i had considered and planned it several times. It was my decision to stop pitying myself and feeling like a piece of shit because i knew it would never get me anywhere
just like it should be your decision to get help and realize that the entire world isn't against you. you're not that important, it's okay to just be okay
@@xCDF-pt8kj you have a lot of anger inside you and from what you've said it's caused you to be incredibly violent. that isn't okay, and neither is that grudge you seem to hold
@@xCDF-pt8kj it's a little concerning that you keep mentioning "normal" people as if it's a bad thing. that's an entirely different discussion though
it can very easily become your problem for more than just the reasons you mention
Arrested for assault, high blood pressure from stress, you can severely injure yourself, poor sleep has its own myriad of issues, and if you dont take better care of your mental health then it can seriously impact your performance in life
there's no reason to keep your standards so low for your own life
Descriptions like this of "edgy", "alternative" etc. is dangerous and unhelpful. For some people, it's simply self-expression or exploration of self. Not everyone with black eyeliner, black clothes and a sad expression is going to kill someone.
That's true but people can use self expression as a excuse for murder
@@angexll7085 True, but it's not good to use such descriptions as people get generalised like that which can lead to unhelpful stereotypes, bullying etc. Personally, I think it's better to describe the person's behaviours etc. and have their style choices as a small add on if needed just like the colour of their eyes.
@@angexll7085 What? No one says "I wear black clothing therefore I am not responsible for the death I caused." Tf?
@@zrc1514 no what I'm saying is your be so surprised to learn how many people used blood and edgy knife pictures as a cover up for murder. People assume there just a edgy teen. I love the alt style but I'm talking about people who will literally use blood on selfies from others. It happens often. It's no only emo either it's Barbie styles. Girls or guys will act innocent and have a cute style so nobody suspects them. I honestly Recccomened looking into it it's interesting.
No shit Sherlock.
I can definitely agree that Prozac causes violent thoughts. While I was on it for a couple of months, I had the most gruesome and realistic nightmares that I would wake up and believe they were real and it was horrifying. I had a dream there was a dead body in my trash can and when I woke up I went outside to check because it felt that damn real..
Same. Prozac gave me the worst nightmares. I just don’t get how you can give some one mentally struggling something that’s going to make them struggle even more.
Monkey Mom right? I took at least 4 different anti depressants before I just realized it didn’t really help me at all. The only thing it did do was take away violent tendencies but that was it
Were you taking them at night out of curiosity? Zoloft gave me horrible nightmares until I switched to mornings, but I always assumed it was because I used to have night terrors or something. Weird to know that's just a common thing if so
There's a big difference between angry outbursts, and meticulously plotting the cold-blooded murder of a child
@@VelvetandGinger Why sell something that will fix the problem when you can keep making money?
Antidepressants do not increase one's aggression level - it's quite the opposite, in fact.
Yeah people are dumb af.
It's like saying Xanax causes panic attacks when people are prescribed or for anxiety disorders
There are certain crime stories that always creep me out no matter how many times I hear them...this one is definitely the one. There's something incredibly sinister about Alyssa, like looking into the eyes of darkness.
Look into the story of Junko Furuta or something like that forgot how to spell it, but I can never forget about that poor girl and what they done to her over those 44 days of hell she was locked in that house. Also a murder committed by teenagers 😭😭😭 that poor girl, she was a good girl with great grades in school just such a depressing violent end to such a beautiful kind girl 😫
@@soukybird9274 oh,yeah, this one is an absolute horror, so perverted!
@@indi3066 😞😞😞 May god protect us and our families from harm 💗
@@soukybird9274 amen🙏
@@soukybird9274 The monsters that live amongst us. We never see them but they see us. You can never be too safe and remember the golden rule, never speak to strangers.
“Elisabeth was given a death sentence and we were given a life sentence” wow
She deserves to be in jail for life for killing an innocent kid. It's really creepy, hearing stuff from her diary. Not really sure why anyone would defend her.
That being said, I find it weird black nail polish and posing in edgy ways are "questionable," like girl I've been alt since I was 14 but I've never hurt anyone or wanted to kill someone. It's just clothes my guys
Not life in prison lol
@@richardgomez1151 wym
@@ono2588 wat that supposed to mean?
Not English speaker
@@richardgomez1151 it means “what do you mean”
@@jeff-hd9og I mean she was a kid and even if not it's just one murder we all deserve 2nd chance
wow, 15 year olds aren’t good parents? shocking. who could have guessed.
Right? I can't believe that a child does not make a good mother!?!?!?!
It wasn’t that long ago that humans were having kids at age 13 and dead by 30. If what you’re saying was true, very few of us would be here.
@@datboibuttersit wasnt that long ago when half the children born wouldn't even live past their fifth birthday
@@datboibutterssomebody should check your hard drive
The moment I realized Alyssa had disturbing tendencies (prior to seeing all the evidence) and was not just a average teen being edgy was when the officers said they found a picture of Emma that was painted with Alyssa's own blood. That's very unnerving.
I don't think the picture of Emma was drawn in blood. I believe that it was only some of the writing on her walls that were. Disturbing and gross nonetheless.
I’ve seen this story so many times but I’m so excited to hear how you guys cover it
Same
I hate her to
Same here!
Ikr, always manage to get new info from EWU videos
Same here
It's really hard to tell edgy teenagers from actual murderers sometimes. I had friends who acted exactly like Alyssa in every way, male and female, including the self harm and fantasizing about killing people and all of them ended up fine as adults. It's such a weird age to try to predict outcomes at
did you report these friends with fantasies about killing people though - what type of people think such things - when i was that age it was girls and footy on my mind- glad i live in my country and not the US - they seem to have a lot of whacky kids who go on murder sprees for no reason at all.
@@dukewellington3174 as I’m writing this I’m waiting to go into my hs, and I totally agree ik so many people who dress and look like her and talk abt this stuff, you just gotta mind your buisness now tbh I don’t get Involved in it
@@hawaiianthunder4408 ur freinds were the weirdest mfs as kids man..
@@dukewellington3174 Do you really think anybody would care, realistically? "My friend has fantasies about killing people", they are just fantasies, and nobody would care in the slightest. It's definitely not uncommon for teenagers to feel disturbing emotions, especially if they've endured trauma, and not just in the US, but all over the world, including your country. There are child killers in every place in the world, it seems to be more in the US because it's a insanely large country and it's logical that they're more prominent there, as it's population is way bigger then most other countries.
Just because YOU haven't experienced these type of thoughts and it's not normal for you personally, doesn't automatically mean that it's not the case for many other people, and most of them grow up to be regular people.
We had strange teenage years, the ones that lived thru the early-mid ‘00s. I remember that the emo/scene culture was all about being edgy, cute but bloody, yadda yadda. And also t*mblr played a significant role there, there were A LOT of accounts dedicated to blood and gory, depressive, black and white aesthetics in general. I’m sure that really helped to f*ck up some kids. I am now friends with people the same age as me, that I didn’t get to know ‘till early adulthood and most of them have the scars of when self harming was cool between adolescents.
another thing, parents and guardians PLEASE let your kids release their emotions, do NOT take it as disrespect when they do please. find patience in your heart please, holding in emotions creates dangerous amounts of anger and sadness.
Sometimes people are just born wrong/evil. Alyssa maintained that personality for a long amount of time, a sudden change in dosage didn't make her a sicko..she already was one.
No one is born evil. At this point thats basically a fact if you do any bit of research on the subject. Michael Myers is not a real person
I wouldn’t say people are born to be wrong/evil. Sure there may be occasions where a person is more likely to turn to violent behaviour as some people are born with abnormalities in the brain. However, that doesn’t mean they can’t be raised into being a good person. It’s all about your environment and the people around you who look after you which helps shape you into the person you are.
They aren't born evil, they were made evil, Alisa probably had to grow up in a horrible environment
Nobody is evil at birth, upbringing is what makes murderers and psychos
You people have no idea how the brain works. There are people who are born with more aggressive tendencies and lack of empathy due to brain defects. That's an undeniable fact. And it can't truly be corrected.
Can you guys break down the case of Jessica Chambers who was burnt in her car and firemen saw her walking down the road on fire?
I always thought it was Quentin who murdered her.
@@Gioachina0279 me too,i watched the trial and that volunteer firefighter that found her on the road on fire he will never be the same again
@@Gioachina0279 btw isn't he in jail for killing someone else? But not for Jessica Chambers
@@mellmerc6029 i had nightmares after what i've heard about her murder. I cannot imagine what the People on the scene going through.
I wish you a happy and healthy Week with your loved ones 🍀♥ greetings from Germany🙋
@@Gioachina0279 yes terrible indeed,,maybe EWU CREW will break down that case! Much love ,stay safe you and yours!
This was super alarming to me because I take the maximum dose of Prozac and have for years, and i just turned 21. I'm angry and aggressive unmedicated, but I've never been more stable on Prozac. That's insane!
My ex is in jail because of these pills .he changed was different.
That's the thing about medication (drugs) there are so many variables that come into play and the same drug can affect different people in vastly different ways, I feel like this murder was preventable, there were warning signs that I think were overlooked by professionals.
RIP xx
See I'm normally angry when unmedicated and depressed, prozac made it worse, but zoloft made it completely better. Just a sign, if one SSRI doesn't work don't give up immediately! Everyone is different
@@uselessmikuarchive That's insane! Prozac completely helped, Zoloft made everything 10x worse. I couldn't stop crying on that stuff
I think it affects people differently, It's the only anti depressant that has actually worked for me too
She went from Rawr XD to killing her 9 year old neighbor. Jesus
There are sick horrible people in this world. Always be aware of your surroundings and the people you allow into your life.
I didn't let my kids go to many of their friends homes as kids, but I let their friends come to our house. I just didn't trust anyone.
Never let this one out, she dug two graves this was premeditated, if she hadn't been caught she probably would have done it again.
Poor baby. Rest in paradise
I was on Prozac for a short time as a young adult. It change my whole personality. I was not only a danger to myself but to others. I won't go into to much detail, but before I hurt someone, I managed to stop the medication cold turkey after recognizing that the pills were making me absolutely insane. Scared myself so much that for years afterwards. I would refuse to be around people who I knew were on it.
I'm not at all defending what she did. I just knew that it would get someone, someday. "If" that's what happened here. Sad for everyone involved.
prozac is awful !!
Yes anti depressants can make someone psychotic
If I was Elizabeth’s parents I would start looking at medical and psychiatric negligence charges being brought against Alyssa’s therapists… This could have possibly been avoided…
I would look at myself for criminal negligence if my children
I had to scroll down 50 comments to find one about the thumbnail. It’s her morphing into something horrifying and says more in one illustration than 1,000 words could say.
What do you mean
The thing about Prozac though is that people take lower doses unless they have OCD. Most antidepressant prescriptions of Prozac are actually still fairly low compared to an OCD dosage.
I have OCD and take Prozac, personally it has never made me think violent thoughts or have any violent tendencies. I know it’s different for everyone though.
Thank you for pointing that out. "Raising the dosage one was previously taking" doesn't equal "taking a high dosage". That's what really bothered me when I watched the video. As long as there are no clear numbers to be said, you can't just assume that they raised her dosage to the amount that it would actually do the opposite of what it did before. It's a SSRI after all, so of course it might make you feel more active, aggitated or aggressive if you increase the dosage.
I've been looking for someone covering this case for so long! Why that is, is because my aunt was put in the same jail as allysa and she told me the story of her talking to allysa for the first time. She said allysa had a girlfriend names Rosie or something along those lines and she seemed sweet and energetic and was very popular around the jail. However she had attempted hurting multiple other young inmates put in for smaller crimes. She said she often would paint on the cell walls with her on blood which is disturbing. My aunt never knew what she was writing but was disgusted by it each time. She said she never talked about her crime and would always brush it off when someone asked why. HOWEVER that pysco would always talk about how she might get realised early and how she wanted to go back for the rest of the family. So that in itself should be enough to prove she hasn't learned from her "mistake".
Tbf, how is she or anyone for that matter supposed to "learn from their mistake" when all we do is lock them in prison. We can't not provide mental health treatment to people like this and expect them to behave any differently
@@dinahb1170 the jail she went to provide therapy 1 on 1 and sessions with multiple other inmates, she lives in a healthy clean cell with no other women. She's been put in therapy and mental health cycles but nothing works.
None of that shit is true .
@@angexll7085 idk where you got your info either but that's not true at all .
And I spent two and a half years in prison with Alyssa , so I KNOW none of that is true at all .
@@tiajuanasmalls3534 it very much is? I can give you my aunts prison info? It'll show she was in the same cell block as Alyssa
I was locked up in prison with her. I honestly don't think any child killer should be released
How is she alive? I thought prisoners didn't like child killers?
@SpaceBoy Prisoners are humans too you know. You're acting like they're all a bunch of psychopathic serial killers.
@@KathleenEdge That's only in male prisons I guess. Female prisons seem just to be like a big lesbian orgy or something.
@@Kitsuragi556 what
@SpaceBoy A lot of prisoners come from broken homes and suffered abuse as children. Many are parents themselves. So child abuse and murder is very personal to them.
People say that these murderers are insane. I don't believe they are insane but down right mean and hateful. She knew what she was doing and planned it the whole time. She needs to stay in jail for the rest of her life. I have a friend that didn't have the best up bringing but she took care of her own children and went college and made something of herself. Not going around and killing folks. 🙄
I agree..only a small percentage are certifiably insane. Most ppl just naively think one *must* be insane to want to kill but that just isn't true
Professionals (psychologists/psychiatrists) trump what you feel.
The fact that she killed her showed that shes insane tho like why tf would someone kill someone when shes only 15? She did it because of curiosity, but your definition of insane must be different so its okay 😁
would never wish that on someone no matter what they've done, though jail time is needed and deserved but to suffer for their whole life is the exact same description of hell and I would never wish hell on a person because if i do I'm just as crazy and mental as they are.
@@olivejar5897 I see...
Ohhh my god. How can people ever take another precious human life!!! Makes me friggen siccccckkkk. May this angel Rest In Peace ❤️
Dude, I know someone who has depression and takes Prozac. It does *not* cause you to become a homicidal maniac.
I literally can’t imagine what the child felt while she’s getting stabbed and her throat cut… absolutely horrific
Pain. Lots of it
not "literally"
she wouldn't remember the pain at all because she's dead and in a happier place. what's your point?
she probably felt like she was getting stabbed and getting her throat cut
it's not that difficult to imagine yknow
She just felt her HP drop
This is so sad from all aspects. Thanks EWU for your videos. In other videos you help bring cold cases to light and I appreciate your videos before the pandemic with the traveling and trying to help families get closure by looking for evidence that may have been missed in the past. My favorite channel on TH-cam. Thanks for all you do.
I was brought up with 2 loving parents. So to hear of a child being brought up with parents that didn’t care or love them is very sad to hear.. I know I am lucky in my life & maybe that’s why I don’t take anything in life for granted, I am so grateful for everything I have & always try to be kind to everyone, I always treat everyone with Respect.. I don’t hate anyone & love GOD 👍🏴
Always be grateful for what you have. Never feel guilty for having the life that you have
@@cooldudesmith6384 Thank you for your kind words, it just gets to me a wee-bit when I hear & see people that are having or had a really bad start in life , it especially gets to me when it’s children. All children should be given at least a chance in life , even if it’s just a wee chance as anything is so much better than nothing 👍🏴
You, You're my kind of, and I'm being very presuming and if wrong, I beg forgive me, Christian.
I grew up with 5 siblings. 2 parents who worked minimum wage or less. We had a hell of a lot of birthdays where the television trope of clothes for a birthday or Christmas was "Yeah, why laugh there, that's what you get for those days. New pants, SCHOOL PANTS!( some of you get it!) and a couple of bucks. Then a shared gift, Nintendo was the best ever. Man, kids today have no idea how awesome the JC Penny Catalogue was.
But, they damn well loved us all. Still do. Pappy ain't around anymore, but I buy my mother books, they paid for my books when I was a kid, hell, I can get em whatever they want and more. :) My Father had just began "Still Life with Crows" by Preston/Child.
I'm happy about that. Knowing he went out with a book in his hand or on his lap, a book about bushwackers, shootumups, injun raids, and the FBI and magic. He went out laughing, and I'm sure he's still not even half-way over Bifrost because he wants to talk to Fenris and see if he can get that leg jumping. 1945-2020. Laughed every day of it.
I can't imagine the sadness of someone who's parents didn't give them that.
And I'm from a hell of a staircase of Steps and enough halfs to make ten wholes at least,
To be someone's Parent ain't blood. To be a good Parent is to just give a damn. Try to prepare them for the world we're handing off, and stay out of their way.
@@OldSkullInn That’s got to be one off the best comments I have ever read & I really mean that RESPECT 👍🏴
@@ziniztr you’re sound like the kind of person that has no friends & everyone stays away from you cause you’re a horrible IDIOT 👍🏴
and this is why having a good childhood and stable mental health is important.
You people ruined rainbows for me
I remember I was taking criminology course in college when this case happened, we discussed it and hypothesized about the perp, I can tell you no one suspected a preteen girl.
That last quote from her mother really got to me… I can’t imagine the pain.
Somehow you make the most horrible Scenarios so interesting to watch. Fair play.
As someone who was wildly depressed, has self harmed and has taken Prozac, I can empathize with this. People act like they understand what it's like to live in a mentally disrupted mind... but they don't. I've felt, seen, heard.. really terrifying things. Prozac sort of numbed me from feeling but it didn't stop my thought process.
Even when I did get prescribed Prozac, I still attempted a few years ago. Things have gotten better but that's because I was with a not so aggressively background as this, was older (18) and had some sort of support system (my dad helped a lot). Reality and fiction morph a lot when you're like this, and things that happen feel more like a fever dream. My entire teenage years are filled with sobs and screams, and I never want to relive it.
This isn't some sort of monster. She was a child that killed another child. This is the consequences of a poor upbringing, negligence in mental health and loneliness. I could have been that same person but I was lucky, and the same could go for so many others that were capable of pulling out of it. I hope that both families can learn to live with the events, and Alyssa can find some sort of rehabilitation through psychological treatment.
I wouldn't want to be her friend but I would want people to not suffer from psychological issues, as I would hope for them to me. There is no redemption from this. Just sadness and suffering.
prozac is awful !!
Hi there! As someone who has been on Fluoxetine (Prozac) since I was about 12 or 13 years old, it defiantly doesn't "make you kill people". I've been diagnosed with Depression and Anxiety for about 6 years (I'm 18 now) and I have never once thought about harming anyone other than myself. I understand that everyone's experiences are different, but its still so disheartening to see the stigma and stereotypes around people with mental illness. If Alyssa had the treatment and proper care I can bet you this wouldn't have ended how it did.
I've been on prozac for 7 years myself. It is the only antidepressant med that HASN'T made me violent. Everyone reacts different to every medication. I agree that people saying that antidepressants, prozac or otherwise, make you kill people have never met someone openly on SSRIs or only hear the bad side of them.
Bit on my mental illness before continuing onto what i have to say... I have treatment resistant schizoaffective disorder, bpd, c-ptsd, generalized anxiety, social anxiety, and adhd. My first primary diagnosis was in 2009 with mdd, 2011 they changed primary diagnosis to bipolar disorder, in 2013 when i was 28yo primary diagnosis changed again to schizoaffective disorder when i finally opened up about enduring hallucinations that have never stopped since i was 12yo; hallucinations hadnt been problematic or causing distress until my mid 20s.
*In no way am i defending, condoning, or condemning this tragedy.*
I am just sharing information most are unaware of & often the case been suppressed by manufacturers from the usage & side effect sheets/inserts until a massive class action lawsuit happens (seroquel's side effect- causes diabetes in high amount of patients & manufacturer denied claim then found suppressing health risk after lawsuite for example)
Now onto what i have to say/share...
Taking any antideppresant especially Ssri's, snri's, and Atypical antidepressants, should never be a 1st line treatment. all 3 classes have significantly high.... sometimes irreversible risks such as inducing psychosis, dangerous behavioral change, magnifying mood shifts & severity, worsening depression & underlying symtoms, hinder thinking ability including right/wrong, severe permanent health risks.
These should only be prescribed after other treatment options, supportive care, & support system dont provide improvement for person--- only prescribed for no more than a 1 year period weaning at end then followed by a monitored "med break" because they are NOT a permanent treatment & become less and less effective the longer they are taken.
Medicine has vastly different effects on different people.
I was on Prozac for 3 years and at first it was great but then I became numb and emotionless. I did have anger outburst but never killed anyone or thought about it. Although yes it’s a possibility it shouldn’t be an excuse as to what this horrible girl did
One of the side effects are violent behavior and if that happens you should switch your medication that’s great that you don’t have that side effect but research has already shown it does in fact happen
As someone who takes Prozac, that theory is absolutely ridiculous. Do not blame the medication. It was the person who committed the crime. Blaming the medication does nothing but harm others. Saying people who take Prozac are ‘10x more susceptible to committing violent crimes’ only makes the general public afraid of those who take those medications, in turn isolating a group of perfectly innocent people. Prozac has helped me manage my anxiety and I’m grateful that I don’t have as many panic attacks as I used to because of it. Stop shifting the blame. The Prozac did not take her hand and force her to commit murder. She did that on her own.
Agree as fuck. Now i just feel bad for taking pills that make me less likely to be violent :')
It's evil stuff like this that makes goths and emos look bad.
She was a monster
She was mentally ill and traumatised
Having been on a number of different medications over the years, I can say with absolute certainty that she had to already be thinking of doing something like this. Whilst there may be side effects that increase aggression, it does not create it, and I'm glad the expert witness didn't allow her to get out of it with that excuse. I do think her mental illness or illnesses contributed to her committing this crime, but, again, this is not an excuse for it, just a potential factor
Secretly watching this right now 😏 Pretending to the little one that I am in fact watching Diary of a wimpy kid with her... for the 4th time this week!
I'd watch it 4 times a row, that movie was my childhood :(
@@davidalvarez5659 😂 My older daughter was a fan too several years ago, so I dread to think how many times I've actually watched them! Zoo-wee-mama!
@@missreece9039 I read the books in the past :-)
😂
Someone who didn’t make it out of grade school and has thus lived in prison for most of their life likely can’t just…come back into society. The prison system doesn’t generally help anyone and instead leaves them to grow up and learn from the toxic societal rules and standards that exist in prison.
Yes if she ever comes out there'll be more dead bodies I'm sure
This
But if they can't turn their life around then that is the true punishment. Not prison.
Keeping her away from society is more important than 'helping' her.
ohhh poor her
I was on antidepressants by the time I was 8. I don't recall murdering anyone. I get everyone is different, but you can't just blame murder on Prozac to me
Agreed.
This was absolutely disgusting and premeditated.
If someone is ever trying to “show you something cool just right up here” and it isn’t someone you’ve known you’re entire fucking life, don’t go.
Imagine the trauma of the little sister, who once she reaches maturity realises that she led her friend to her death and her sister was the murderer. Poor sweet angles may she rest in peace.
She’s not sorry she’s sorry bcuz she’s spending majority of her life in jail. I wouldn’t have accepted her apology either especially coming from someone who said it was awesome and they enjoyed it
Of course she's not sorry she's a sociopath. *"I gotta go to church now, lol"* that says it all.
@@oAgL214 She is right where she belongs. Anyone thinking she should be released is just as insane as her.
@@JamesJohnson-nv8zo exactly!
Wicked nasty and just plain evil
Watching this on the bus on my way to the pharmacy. What’s up EWU fam😍
bro i was taking weird selfies like that when i was 14 and im not a murderer
Ong
Man this was just sad all around, it seems like she already had some pretty deep issues that would have manifested in some way like this regardless, but I doubt the Prozac helped her
RIP Elizabeth. So innocent and Alyssa took that all away. I understand some antidepressants affect people differently. I've been on a few before being prescribed Prozac. It's saved my life but always gets a bad wrap. Alyssa's grandparents tried their very best. If they knew what was written in her diary I'm sure they would have kept trying to help her. I hope she never sees the outside of her prison walls. And I hope that Elizabeth's family can find some peace in time. I don't know how, but I hope they can.
They make u crazy I seen it first hand the pills are evil
I think most antidepressants have possible side effects of suicidal & homicidal tendancies. I remember that being one of the side effects of Zoloft.
You're such a punk.
@@KimGaines That's such a blanket statement. Some people I know go crazy WITHOUT pills. You really wanna deal with an unmedicated bipolar patient?
@@KimGaines that's kind of unfair to say, just because some meds don't work with some people doesn't mean it's unhelpful for everyone. unmedicated, my ocd is unbearable. I think it's important to monitor side effects, not condemn all meds.
The antidepressants is probably what helped her cope with murdering someone, and being able to go back to school and going to church.
But she has been apparently digging holes for a while, for animals (she may have killed) - that's where it starts. And she had been planning on killing a human after the animals haven't been enough.
So sad. Alyssas mom was making life at 15, and Alyssa was taking life at 15. Neither are good, but I'd much prefer my 15 y.o. make life at that age, rather than the latter... I'll never understand how it's possible, for anyone to be so cold and evil..
Also, how is she suppose to pay Patty for the wrongful death suit, when she's locked away til she's at least 50 y.o.??
"Wore heavy eye makeup and painted her nails black..." Me, a goth: huh
Interesting fact:
I had myself a comparable life as Alyssa had. I took myself at young age antidepressive medication (around 17 to 19). I was incredible aggressive and took a dark path with criminal aspect and I ended up in prison multiple times after all (one of it 2,5years). The whole nightmare ended ONLY as I turned 26-27. I was lucky enough to be diligent and ambitious regarding my job. Since then, I got married have two wonderful kids and my life turned better than I would have ever expected. I was just lucky. I can imagine that people with difficult lifes as we had can't find the light at the end of the tunnel as I did. Thx for the video. It was a scary flashback.
@@cville991 no
I knew the mother from a friend of mine. She was a known meth head and never had her kids. Alyssa was put on adult doses of depression meds that she never should have been on. Horribly sad situation.
wonder if she was a meth baby and the drugs messed up her mind before she was born
Anyone who says that they ENJOYED killing should get no parole. Like what do they think she will do when she gets out again?