Please dont make me buy an xbox - DIY Multi-Zone Xbox
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At the new house, we found a big problem! How can we be able to play Xbox and PC games in multiple parts of the house without having to buy multiples of them. Today we find out.
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0:00 Intro - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
I love watching linus and his husband working on their new house
a throuple
at least we now know why they never got rid of Jake. he's a freak in the sheets.
Cute couple. But who wears the pants?
@@herdsire90210 Clearly Yvonne does
You mean Linus boyfriend husband
linus is on a quest to make sure that the technology in his house is as hard to use as possible
Yeah. This could have been done much more easily with HDMI over Ethernet. (I don't actually know if that's responsive enough for gaming, but Steam can do it)
Or to use all the money he has buying pointless shit like a 6k receiver
He should've used an ARC GPU for eARC. It's twice as much ARC so is therefore twice as good.
Gotta love how he wants everything to be interoperable with everything xD :P
I would smash those xbox's with a bat.
I love that the house project has an incredibly high complexity and cost factor that is completely justified because it can be used for content.
and because it can be used for content its 100% tax deductible, dont forget😂
isnt that the plan to have the whole house tax deductible at this point with the amount of videos hes making about it
“The Tech Adventures of Jake and Linus”
Also, this seems like a setup that only one or two people would understand in the house. Every time I add something ‘techy’ to my home I ask myself:
1) Would my wife understand how to use this if she wanted to
2) Am I over implicating this?
implicating?
Yeah I have to do the same thing, you don't want to over complicate the setup or they will be bugging you every time they want to use it or when it stops working.
@@joegon6278 unfortunately it's often not even more complicated, it's just that people are so tech naive that even a 'change' can frustrate and throw people off... while it is easy for tech nerds to go too crazy, it's also impossible to find a good balance with those unwilling to adapt to the times.
My dad was interested in an AppleTV my brother gave him cuz it gave him access to a bunch of streaming apps on his old dumb TV. He then had me pick out a new smart TV a couple months ago. I tried teaching and explaining that he now just has AppleTV functionality built into his new TV, but the fact that it was 'different' had him frustrated and annoyed the first week with it. I even updated, calibrated, and logged in everything to cover the bases. He didn't like the fact that things 'changed' though, even after making it as easy as possible 🙄
Eggxactly
@@Shibby7634 Similar thing with my mom. She hates tech changes and, at this point, my dad and I feel like she's just convinced herself that it's too complicated for her to learn.
About a year ago we switched from CenturyLink to Comcast and got basic cable added onto our plan, in addition to the phone and internet we had from CL. Our main TV upstairs is a decent 4k smart TV. Comcast has an app for smart TVs or devices like Roku that you can stream the cable channels through via internet so you don't need to hook up a cable box and Comcast doesn't count data from that app against your data cap. But my mom still can't wrap her mind around the idea that some of what she watches counts against data (like TH-cam and Amazon) while the cable channels on the app don't.
Another time my dad moved all of the stuff from her 500GB HDD on her laptop to a 2TB SSD to give her more space (despite her tech issues, she's REALLY into digital scrapbooking with Photoshop) and she panicked the first time she started it up after the upgrade because the drive had a different letter assigned to it and she thought she had lost her files, despite my dad having said it's basically the same just faster and more space to save things on.
Linus: I don't want to waste money buying duplicates of each console
Also Linus: so I spent $6000 on a receiver
Multiple Xbox’s would have been easier and better. Especially for non split screen games
@@metalliholic but then you are stuck with 3 xbox's, this will future proof his set up.
@@F.r.e.a.k.e.n.s.t.e.i.n Future proof, ye that would be a valid argument if this doesn’t cost like 12 xbox’es
@Osu Community Just get a HDMI matrix. This is literally done all the time.
or that can alternatively read as "So I'm going to use something I already got for other purposes"
Hey Linus, I used to design and install high-end centralized AV and automation systems. If you want all the functionality you're looking for, you might look into an HDMI Matrix. The largest I installed was about 10 years ago and it was a 8x16 matrix. (8 inputs, 16 outputs) With matrixing, you can have one input go to any output or multiple thereof. You will definitely need an automation system to make it easy to use. I used RTI a lot back in the day but there are several others to choose from. Feel free to reach out of this is something you'd like to explore. My information is outdated at this point but I still have connections and would be happy to provide whatever info I can. Keep up the great work!
I recently worked with an Ecler VEO 4x4 Matrix, which does 4K/UHD @60Hz. In that installation we also used other Ecler products to route the audio to different zones you can create in their software, but to do that you also need an audio matrix like the MIMO. The downside is that this can get very expensive and might be much to overkill just to do those two zones. In the end you can design touch interfaces to navigate the setup so you can make it very user friendly. If you are concidering to have more monitors in the house on which you want every option to switch the feed you might look into this kind of stuff.
Edit: Of course there are many other options which do the same thing, but I just had worked with Ecler products so they came up in my mind
We still use them all the time another option that works grate is network KVM which means you don need to run lost of HDMI cable everywhere and your just use Ethernet cable and then it's a virtual matrix.
I was just coming here to say this. I'm a lazy gamer, and my setup is much more centralized, but I have a 6in 2 out matrix that does up to 4K 60hz with 6 different consoles that can switch between either my nice monitor or my big TV. I haven't noticed any appreciable input lag from doing it this way, and all you have to do is hit a button on a remote and it switches within a few (4-5ish) seconds. At that point all you would need is an extra remote and an IR repeater to get the signal back to the matrix from another room. Maybe they make more expensive ones that have an app you can use, but unless you absolutely have to have 4K 120hz you can get a matrix that does what you want for like $100 USD. Even if this doesn't quite fit what you need, it's a pretty good way for people to approximate your setup on a much smaller (and cheaper) scale. Stops you from having to change out HDMI cables all the time, which is really nice if you have a setup where getting TO the cables is a bit of a hassle.
Lol I'm not sure why he didn't go this route? I just picked up a 16x16 HDMI Matrix and its awesome. And it was way overkill for me and yet still only 1/6th the price of that receiver
I was not aware that was a thing, I had seen 2 x 1 switches, but was not aware that there were other options like this. Very good information, thank you for sharing.
The resolution of the paint document at @2:34 made me chuckle, nice
Love the house videos guys!!
I have done the same thing in my house however only getting 4k 60hz with a HDMI matrix ran to TV's over Ethernet. The matrix is controlled with a web UI to select which screen wants what input.
To solve the issues of controllers distance I took apart my consoles and extended the antenna cables to be in the roof in between all the rooms (roughly) you might find once you have furniture and everything else in the house you may struggle with distance and battery life.
I found once I extended into the roof the distance I can get is a massive increase.
I did the same with my PC and extended the Bluetooth card antenna cables.
Thanks & love the channel Team.
As someone who does video for events, there's a better way to do this... Just run everything to a central 6x6 Matrix switcher then out to a display/audio system in each room. Way less of a pain then dealing with all the weird restrictions/quirks consumer gear makes you deal with.
Agreed! This is one of those niche uses (at least for home) that is difficult to find unless you know it exists. Been using a 4x2 Matrix for years and it`s been a huge QoL improvement.
how long can hdmi cables be in the normal enduser usecase? I use a 10m cable 2.0 just fine but in a house that wouldn't be enough.
Do you use active cables? or how would you deal with that
@@MHWGamer Active cables can get up to 100ft. Longer than that you can convert to SDI or Fiber and then convert back at the other end
@@MHWGamer the answer in reality is that commercial gear uses cat cables and hdbaset, or for longer runs fiber, negligible latency and with fiber you can be literally miles away
Do hdmi 2.1 matrices exist already?
As an AV systems designer, It kills me a little but to watch someone put so much effort in to a consumer solution when there are professional matrix switchers that could do this natively
But at what cost?
Linus is a tinkerer, he likes his own solutions that he wires himself in his own way. Also how much does a pro matrix switcher cost?
Looking for this comment, just go for an Extron or whatnot matrix switcher
@@Rickbearcat peanuts if it means Yvonne is happy.
This house should have just been nvx haha
This is the content I really like to see. digging into the fine details of products to do complex things like this is the content im looking for.
I've done something very similar by taking advantage of remote play apps and gigabit ethernet. I think this would be much less hassle, much more intuitive, and far more flexible. Although, I acknowledge that 4K 120Hz is probably not coming to console remote play apps any time soon.
Linus, if it's too complicated to play Switch in a different Room, you could technically buy a second Dock to move the Switch over to a dirfferent room.
Switch Docks are not a mysterium anymore.
Yeah, way cheaper, easier and reliable. You can't do mirroring though. But everything else works.
as someone with 3 docks, this.
hdmi tends to shit out but very easy to replace
I gotta physically pick it up AND move it?! I ain't yo maid.
I’m so happy Linus adopted Jake and is going to give him a good life as his new son. It’s beautiful
did he ?
@HoloKola Gaming not if he gives consent
@@brickmasterstudios447 daddy linus, chill
Saruman: "Constantly Eating mushrooms, yellows Jake's teeth." {0.o}
@@jcoleword2380 lol
Solution: Just sell the receiver on Ebay or something and buy one of the new ones with multiple HDMI 2.1. Sometimes it's worth it for the better experience. It sounds like one of those would make this a lot simpler and if you're going to be living with this setup every day for years the ease of use suddenly becomes worth a lot when you're dealing with a hassle all the time
Watching Linus' house videos makes my brain turn to liquid but I love it. I want a full on tour when its done. Like 6 hours video explaining it all
Can't wait to see the receiver sitting in the corner in five years. "Yeah it ended up being too much hassle so we just put a machine in every room".
Almost exactly verbatim.
Legit and cheaper
Cant belive linus made a workaround so expensive and complicated that actually made me go like "maybe streaming is a better solution here"
The better solution would just be straight up be multiple consoles. Cheaper than the whatever he’s doing here.
Or you know, don’t be lazy and just move the console physically.
@@infinite683 Yes, he could have legitimately came up with a quick disconnect system thats easier to use and cleaner than this. For way less money.
@@infinite683 i agree, i meant that this solution is so bad and expensive that something like streaming (which sucks) is a better alternative than this
you can get a cheap receiver with multiple outputs, you don't need to get the 6K denon for this to work
@@SpektrikMusic It depends on the ultimate goal for audio, I just went through this recently and was doing a lot of research (didn't get this model but didn't get the cheap one either). If he dropped to the model that has multiple 8k inputs you lose almost all of the high end audio processing and audio imaging correction (which is honestly magic and hard to describe but turned my vaulted ceiling tv room into a respectable experience). If you are just using a sound bar then this is overkill but if say the projector room has a proper speaker and surround sound set up then you will really want those extra audio enhancements, my upgrade was night and day difference in sound quality. Now unless he is going to use the preouts and add external amplifiers he could have gotten away with the $1000 model and accomplished the same goal as the diminishing returns on processing start with this model and peak at the model above for the average person.
Now you need to have Jake or someone dive into Home Assistant and setup some IR blasters in each room, and some automations to make switching inputs etc to single button press. Add some wall mount tablets, one for each room and bam easy user interface.
Sometimes I feel bad because I feel like I spoil myself, then I just watch what Linus is up to and I instantly feel better about myself.
At the end of the day, despite all his accomplishments and years spent studying tech of all kinds Linus is just like the rest of us; spending an entire afternoon to make his TV and AV boxes work *exactly* how he wants them to.
Some things stay the same.
War. War never changes.
If I'm being honest, I prefer the project work over the finished product.
@@Omen465Lul I was about to write that
The level of pettiness of the editor that actually did the tracking work to put "No" on Jake's hand at 13:47 instead of just putting the botltle is unmatched 🤣
Omg I didn’t even notice the tracking my brain just read the no.
Well, it's a lot easier and faster to add a text and track it on his palm& funnier than badly using a picture of one bottle that might look bad.
@@marcogenovesi8570 and? That means no tracking work was done? 😂😂
@@cl4ud1us43 for the lols it would’ve had the same result, it was just a joke
Love watching the home project videos. Mooooore!
When you're spending $5k on receivers, this seems like a lot of work to avoid buying another Xbox or two. Am I missing something?
Nope not missed anything, and now they have to share that xbox, what if kids wanna game too?
This is clearly an exaggeration/joke. They know that at least I hope buying another Xbox clearly better in every aspect. This is just pure first world problems and a troll attempt. This vid is ridiculous and they know it.
I think the name of the game is absolute seamless sync
This is certifiably The most first world problem I've ever seen.
bro i had to scrounge up half my monthly salary for a series s im just crying
@@aXDroptimus The series S costs more than 2x the monthly minimum wage here in Brazil.
For real, thanks for saying it for me. These videos are great but it's gotten to a point where they're getting significantly less relatable. It's like a drawn out humble brag.
I love how they think this is a simple/elegant solution and that they are so smart for coming up with it when in reality this is one of the worst possible and most complex/difficult ways of doing what they set out to do.
A video for content sake
That's the way they usually do the things in this channel
Would have taken like 5mins to just use an hdmi matrix lol
I'll watch any video with Jake and Linus in it. Especially these. Funny stuff!
linus thanks for solving the dual audio output problem for me
Linus! I am a video engineer and I was gonna say watching this, you can just get a 12g SDI Video router (which supports 4k 120 on each input and output through dual link) and run one 12 G SDI to each tv and have a smart controller (BlackMagic sells them) at each station for super simple switching between inputs. SDI Carries audio over the cable so that would solve that issue as well. You can run SDI for miles with no signal loss. It gives you a really good upgrade path and is actually much cheaper.
Or use an HDMI switching matrix, optionally with HD-BaseT (HDMI over Cat5/6/7). Getting monitor and A/V routing on a multi-zone consumer HT receiver to work right is a pain.
@@haphazard1342 smart!
Not gonna work if you watch anything with protection. (Hdcp dhcp whatever its called)
@@tjeulink I am convinced the only reason HDMI exists is to push HDCP. You get like a $2 per port discount on the patent licensing if you implement HDCP.
Miles, lol.
God I wish I had these issues in my life
Right? First world problems for sure hahah It is pretty cool though. I'd never want nor need 3 rooms though. Don't have enough friends and I already find my 900 sq foot house kind of.... empty honestly when living alone.
@Osu Community I'm in my early 30's. I've been putting home improvement money towards new windows, carpet, painting, siding in the gables and soffit/fascia. Instead of adding new rooms and what not. I already have a game/computer room. Just re-did my living room just because it felt like a mandatory thing to do even though I sit in there.... once or twice a year maybe. Haha
@Osu Community It doesn't mean you need gaming in every room though
makes me happy to see someone finally use voice meter. i use it for all my audio things
Watching this video (I just got past the intro 1:40) I have to say a few things,
1. Why not just buy multiple docks for the Nintendo switch?
2. Why not just use a steam link for your computer?
3. Why do you need to play Xbox in multiple rooms?
That's not a fun video!
HDMI Matrix boxes are cheaper than giant receivers for those watching at home! I am confused how you expect controllers to reach.
EDIT: Whoop, you acknowledge at the end.
Yep. Switch boxes are just a couple of HDMI mux and duplicators and some micro controller to tell control the mux. But cheap ones have terrible compatibility issues especially those claiming HDMI 2.1
If you have a projector you really want to have an AV receiver, not because of swtiching but because a soundbar will not cut it. The Denon AVR main capability is not swtiching (that's secondary), but the excellent pre-amps, amplifiers, sub outputs, and Odissey audio room calibration. And together with switching it also packs all combinations and volume controls in a single remote (if done properly)
However, a high end AVR with only one hdmi 2.1 port is totally unacceptable, you want that thing to last for many years and next gen PC GPUs and consoles will really need hdmi 2.1 to enjoy games in all its glory.
Yeah but Linus's reaction would make us think he'd only just discovered HDMI matrixes
@@javiej Are there no receivers that can take an eARC audio input?
@@javiej The point here is that a 4x4 matrix switch + a lower-end receiver for each room would get you all of the audio quality and better video quality and a better switching experience.
This is 100% the kind of setup that works for 2 days untill one thing updates and then it bricks the entire system again.
As long as he doesn't stick a play station in the mix he should be fine. 😂
You got my thumbs-up with the "Arc Reactor" quip.
Linus-“I don’t want to spend the money to put consoles in every room”
Also Linus-“spends more on a receiver than buying all the consoles and now you can only use one type of console in each room at a time” 😂
Stuff like this never works well enough in practice to be worth the hassle.
Exactly my thought. Some of my best memories were in my friend's cramped room as we played splitscreen Halo 3 with our buds on two CRTs.
The setup matters little as long as it works. The game itself and the sitting accommodations ironically matter MUCH more.
Came here to make this exact comment. Home theater receivers are a pain in the ass 10 times out of 10. It's misery.
Yea, that has been my experience too
But linus makes money doing it, so why would he care?
he paid $6000 approximately on the receiver, he could have just got 2 more xbox series x's for $1000, 3 nintendo switch for 350 each = 350×3=$1050 and just made three rlly good gaming pc'she had $4000 left off
xbox + switch = $2050
I looked in to an option like this, so I could let people play xbox in any room - but then I realised my kids just fight like mad over "whose turn it is" so this doesn't actually solve my real problem (fighting kids).
though his kids also have a gaming pc each. and me personally i would always use the pcs over the xbox
linus and jake doing obscure hardware setups to various degrees of success is my favourite genre of ltt video
I felt every inch of your pain as I have been here many times. Almost as anxiety watching, but nice not to have to be the one crawling around the floor and behind cabinets etc. every time.
I like how Linus is imagining some sort of MTV Cribs scenario where he has his entourage just chilling in his house playing games in different rooms all the time
jake and dennis might be the entourage
Honestly it’s likely he’s playing games in one room while his kids play in another room
thats what you are imagining. all he said was he wants the display accessible in other areas as well.
Hey so uh, pro tip about the Switch. You could just buy a dock for each TV. Third party ones aren't too expensive, and it gives you the flexibility of carting your Switch between each TV easily or have an option for someone to bring their own and have a TV to plug into.
This receiver solution is neat and all, and obviously necessary for the other devices but not so much for the Switch.
Yeah, and if you have multiple Switches in your household, you can just leave a dock at each TV and buy a couple extra AC Adapters (or use just USB-C chargers in rooms without a tv)
Third Party Dock aren't super expensive, but there is a risk of older Switches bricking from a third party dock
Don't get third party ones they brick your switch
Yeah I think I remember my friend's switch bricking after he used some portable switch dock thing
i mean if you already got the receiver might as well.
@@vagamer522 not on newer docks. It was a problem when switches were still new, and third-parties hadn't sorted out the voltages and stuff. Newer docks don't have those risks anymore, luckily.
pretty cool bc i want to set up a vr setup in a different room then my PC so knowing how easy the powered cables are to use is nice
I love this series. I watch it like a TV series. They are so good 😊
Gotta love the LTT logic... spend many 10k's on all kinds of AV equipment, but lets invest even more money so we can save 1k on consoles...
one has a one time purchase, the other has a generational upgrade cost + subscription cost per device. albeit not equal, depending on how you use it, it will pay itself off either in convenience or lifetime.
True but the profit made from the content made based on that logic nets them enough to buy 100 consoles and a 100 more 6k receivers haha
@@Dudewitbow Imagine thinking you've made a one-time purchase of an AV receiver and then a new version of HDMI comes out.
Exactly, all for not buying 2 more Xbox Series X for 1K only.
@@KarimTemple its a game of upgrades. Realistically i dont think anyone expects 8k to take off any time soon, and if they needed a new hdmi level for a higher resolution or 8k high frame rate, youd have to also incur the cost of that diaplay as well, which as of the moment, no one would remotely buy any time soon, possibly even still theough the next decade.
The only thing I was pondering on was how the controllers can work in both rooms on the Xbox. Isn't there a limitation on that distance? And i learned my lesson at 17 minutes. Touche sir
I think the limit is like 30 feet which is why they put it in between the rooms
Came here to ask the same question too
he can use usb long cable and connect the wireless adapter in the room.
Good quality usb cable can work fine at 10m.
This is the way. The only way actually.
@@orencomputerelectronics8751 connect the wireless adaptor to what? Wireless adaptor is the controller?
I'm glad I wasn't the only one having issues figuring that out.
Lately Linus videos are like an episode of the office and i love it
The home upgrade/renovation episodes are some of the most fun and interesting episodes that I’ve seen in a long time. When you guys finish, you should start upgrading everyone else’s house at LMG 😂
$500,000 Intel Extreme House Upgrade
I'm an A/V nerd from way, waaaaay back, like back when the first surround receivers hit the market in the late 1980s and currently rock a damned healthy home theater setup that would be the envy of most cinemas. I love your setup but, like mine, have to grudgingly admit it's overengineered and far too complex for what you're doing, especially considering you have family in the mix that includes young children. It would be more flexible, easier to use, and about the same price to put a mid-level receiver and gaming console in each room with the features best suited for that room. The current gen of receivers, even lower mid-range units, are super-capable so you could buy based on each room's needs, an inexpensive unit where more comprehensive features aren't needed and a higher-end unit where more power or features are an advantage. It would also be much, much easier for users in each space to use and control versus the complexity of an integrated system with its inherent eccentricities. You could then use the multiple outputs on the PC's graphics card to feed each room independently via simple boosted HDMI runs to an input in that room's receiver. That would let you use some type of simplified customized interface that makes the setup complexity transparent to the end-user while leaving other options in a more straightforward local control configuration. This discrete by-room methodology also adds flexibility for future upgrades in each space. For power draw concerns, set the receivers, TVs, and consoles to do full power-downs rather than low-power standby when "turned off". Power draw when not in use won't be an issue, though you will have to occasionally do manual checks for firmware updates. In all honesty, though, from my experience most current electronics have hibernate power strategies that are amazingly efficient. They draw almost nothing unless they are processing an update, so power settings may be a moot point.
I say this because I've tried multiple times to do an integrated whole-home setup. When it's just me using it, no problem. I know the system. If anyone else tries to use it, problem. They give up and don't use it at all. In every case I ended up going back to discrete room-specific installs that were more straightforward and user-friendly.
Yeah, if it's too complex it just leads to non-use unfortunately
It sounds like they'll be replacing remotes with programmable ones. I've never heard of that, but it sounds like they could program macros into the remotes so one button push with a label could do the tinkery work for them.
If these mfs are struggling with it, how do they expect anyone else to use it.
@@dfc09ify we used to do that at home and its super easy but the best working ones dont exist anymore sadly
If something is more complex AND more expensive it's not a good solution. This has so many negatives and no positives over multiple systems.
Good job explaining what EARC is.
I was just watching to see them fail and find a way to jury rig something…
Great job on actually making it work “as intended” 😂
I love how this entire video just silently kills the Swtich's one main selling point.
Also... Buying every console 3 times wouldn't cost 5000$.
for switch at least, a dock for every room doesnt sound that crazy
Did they say he bought the amp for this purpose, or did he get that amp for other reasons and they are trying to accomplish this with the amp?
I just can’t see this as a good solution honestly. The amount of time you will probably spend troubleshooting it when any little thing changes or goes wrong in software or if someone unplugs something without you knowing will be a nightmare. Running from room to room to check video and audio signals.
Throw in the price of the receiver and the other exotic hardware it hardly becomes a cost saving measure. And then you’re limited to playing split screen across rooms rather than each person having an entire display to themselves. Like what is the point of split screen when you aren’t next to each other?
Also the advantage of buying more than one Xbox is you will have more than one Xbox. What if more than one person wants to use it but doesn’t want to play the same game or just wants to play on their own?
Overall it’s a cool concept and project but not something actually useful.
Also, there’s no need to have constant entertainment man… These people live in excess.
@@druid5931 I get why he’s doing it don’t get my wrong. It’s a video. It’s potentially something to talk about on Wan show. And I guess it’s fun to play around with all of this hardware.
But I think this is the most severe case of LTT creating a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.
Also yeah he doesn’t have a huge family in his house. They can take turns on the Xbox.
@Osu Community I know right. All of the examples that he gave us for it being useful are things that would never come up other than being a novelty. Who would want to watch one of their family member’s gameplay from a different room?
It’s a cool concept but ultimately worse and more expensive that the thing he is trying to avoid. Just by another Xbox or two.
The alternative is buying 2 xboxes and not shooting the video. Cheaper and faster, but then they miss the thousands of dollars they”ll make with the video and the fun they had setting this up.
I don't have a xbox or any other gaming consoles. But can't I just easily cary it with me to the room I wanted like a laptop. And plug it to the display and power supply like i connect the laptop to mouse and charger.
I'm anxiously awaiting Linus and Jake's new show on TLC. I'd watch the crap out of that in my doctor's office waiting room
I love the father-son bonding in the family room.
Honestly, just buy extra consoles and Denon S760H for the secondary zones. The zone 2 + 3 feature on AV receivers is really meant more for situations like kitchen or outdoor speakers. Even for high budget clients like Linus, I steer them towards a simple setup for their normal rooms, and then a high-end setup for the dedicated movie space.
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Can confirm the s760h from Costco is a very cost effective solution. I purchased one last Christmas and so far it is really good and sounds on par, in my opinion, with receivers in the 1500-2500 price range. Takes 3 HDMI 2.1 inputs (4k 120hz pass through) as well. Less wattage (75 per channel) and speakers (7.2) though. Even if he were to buy 3 Xbox and 2 Denon s760h, he'd still have way more than enough money to get a decent receiver in the $2500 range for the movie space and not spend as much as he did on that $4500 receiver and have a better result.
@@arturo2017 For main speakers 75W is more than enough unless they are incredibly incredibly inefficient. In order to get 3 more dB of sound output you need to *double* the power. So going with 100W or even 150W per channel isn't going to gain you much of anything.
Also, most speakers will be over driving the woofers with less than 50W if you're running them full range, they may be "rated" for 150W but that is the thermal capability not necessarily how much power they can handle full range and they will go beyond their excursion capabilities. Not to mention that even mildly efficient speakers are going to be at nearly painful sound levels at 50W anyway. For example my not very efficient front speakers (87dB W/m) from 12ft away will be at 94dB with 32W or 97dB with 64W , which are waaaay more than any reasonable person is going to be watching a movie at, if you're running a set of efficient speakers like Klipsch makes you can cut those wattages by a factor of at least 4 if not 8 for the same SPL level.
Lol I love Jake being the project manager of the house and living vicariously through all this amazing tech. Well who am I kidding, he’s probably gonna move in!
Linus mysteriously dies and leaves the finished house to his oldest son Jake
I'm amazed ya pulled this off tho i guess not so much since not 120hz. I recently redid my projector in my living room which is 4k 120hz with 3D and HDR10+ and originally i had to do this with a hdmi to Cat6e back to hdmi to make the distance and keep 120hz HDR and 3D for my projector. Now with 8K i was able to find a HDMI optical cable able to keep the 4k 120hz at the distance without needing a repeater along the way and my god its amazing.
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Linus: I don’t wanna spend another 1000 on two more Xbox. I wanna spend $6000 on a cool tech gadget that… means that even though the Xbox is in three rooms only one person can be on it at a time…
Yeah that’s a big issue IMO, only one Xbox for himself to play so no one else can in another room.
I think this video has nothing to do with xbox or pc, but more him showing off what the receiver can do, with the typical clickbait title that got us all here
@@SL1CEND1CEN yeah now I'm pissed i clicked
Idiot. That receiver isn't only for the xbox, but also for their cinema theatre, home theatre, speakers, projectors and so on
Yeah I thought this too... kinda stupid idea really. Plus if one Xbox breaks then they have all broken as you only have one.
Wouldn’t it have been cheaper to buy three Xbox’s than a 6k receiver
My thought exactly.
Or 2 S and 1 X for the 4K TV
Even cheaper setup.
so, 3 xbox, 3 ps5, 3 pc, 3 switch and 3 receivers.
Or just use ethernet when you already have cable running everywhere
Power ,updates , controlers mixed signal , powering the wrong one with controles ,etc
I get it, I really do. But for most of us, we will just move the xbox from room to room. And if more than 1 person wants to play, then they have to figure out how to share. They can either play something together, or they will take turns.
But good video for getting some kind of solution for a problem.
The cable management alone for this house is worthy of another video
This seems too overkill, I’m imagining how much a PITA just having my Xbox in another room is when I have to reconnect a controller etc.
we are talkimg about the man who literally made a real solid gold x box controller.........this is fucking childs play in comparison
I would be worried about the wireless controllers working once the rooms in the house are finished plus furnished, plus once you have many more wifi devices in and around the house and don’t forget about people in between being an issue. I predict issues with more interference :(
I think multi console will end up being your final solution (plus is means two different Xbox games and/or PC games etc etc)… GL and can’t wait to see the follow up video.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing... You don't need to buy multiple copies of games though. You can set one console to home and as long as the other console has the account that bought the game (or is subscribed to gamepass or whatever Sony is naming their thing) signed in then both consoles can play the game simultaneously. This works for Xbox and PlayStation both I'm pretty sure... But not on switch and Steam.
There are actually projector screens that are grey instead of white to give better contrast at the expense of a little bit of brightness. In a light controlled room that added contrast would most certainly be worth it.
I had to rewatch that arc reactor joke a couple times, it was so good.
This is the definition of over engineering. As mentioned, buying multiple Xbox’s is way cheaper than this setup and would have a much greater benefit. Or if you must have every component available everywhere, get a 12g SDI matrix.
Also, your wireless controllers will give you endless frustration. You are running your test in a bare house. Once you start adding in furniture, devices that clog the wireless spectrum that your controllers use…it’s just not going to work. You could go wired, however. Wire up usb extensions to the consoles. Have them go to USB wall plates in each room. That would work but be a little annoying that you would be using wired controllers again.
Yea this won't last. He will cave in and buy more Xbox's
Yeah but you'd also be supporting Xbox multiple times. Once is already more than should be.
@@Brandon-bc5um and Linus’ convoluted setup is going to have him running tech support for his family whenever they want to just play an Xbox game. I love most of his decisions with his new house. This one is just dumb.
@@Brandon-bc5um what's wrong with supporting Xbox? Far as I can tell, they are the most consumer friendly gaming company.
Better off installing Xbox app on the TV or a set top box and streaming the Xbox output, or xcloud. Cheaper than this setup and cheaper than buying multiple Xboxes.
It feels weird that Linus & Yvonne are so close to finally moving in, this series has felt like a journey. Hopefully we’ll get to see more updates to the house even after it’s completed.
Who cares?
@@insanofl3x uhm, US?
RIP LINUS
and jake move in to 🤣
You left out Jake lol
I like watching Linus solving problems that I will never , ever, ever…..ever have
It's a great example of pushing a hardware challenge to its extreme limits. so that we can think of The setup can be modified as appropriate.
Curious to see how the $5000 receiver will fix the wireless controller communicating through walls, shit ass experience.
They could use long usb cables for the controllers. But yes, input is a huge issue.
maybe you could use the official wireless Adapter for PC on the XBox with long usb cables, that would solve the lag problem if you use glass fiber usb cables
You can just stream the Xbox to any Windows 10/11 PC with the Xbox app and if every device is connected with Ethernet then you won't really notice any latency. So just have a windows computer in each room. Even if it's just a cheap $150 laptop it will still handle streaming the console
I've done this through Ethernet and on shooters you can notice the latency. But for casual play like single player games it works fine.
that wouldn't be able to do so well. it would be very lossy and i doubt it would be able to do 120hz
That's what I was thinking. Local streaming over Ethernet is surreal when everything lines up. I'm just not sure if XBox lets you stream over only LAN or if it goes through their online services.
@@Kirby5588 is there still input lag that's noticable? Like you push the forward analog and it takes a second to actually move
The mouse circulation system wasn't properly working in any online streaming.. Especially in NVIDIA live stream service.
Did they change the aspect ratio of their videos?? I love it! It fits my phone SO much better.
Home Remote is an excellent piece of software for designing custom remotes, you should have a look at that. Plus it works with home assistant for controlling other items from the remote.
In our hospital we use a device called Matrix, which basically has 5 inputs and outputs and lets you switch them as you wish... Awesome tech.
Matrix's have been around for years. Sports bars are big users.
Probably not getting 4k, 120hz, DV, and Atmos with an inexpensive matrix.
@@AnhtoanNguyen128 well, his 6k receiver also only as one 4k 120hz input...
@@AnhtoanNguyen128 Then get an expensive one
@@AnhtoanNguyen128 Not with an inexpensive matrix, but with one that costs like $1000. Still a lot less than that reciever.
I don't think he's actually connecting any audio directly to the reciever. At least not that I've seen. it's kind of a waste.
“I’m going to need three Xboxes”
Man you’re problems are so far away from mine.
*opens $4 champagne for breakfast.
Opens bottled water for breakfast, and that's a flex in itself since I'm out in a desert. I paid $.75 for 10# bag of ice and Iraqi immigrant accused me of ballin' cause ice is luxury product in his country lolz. I'm from up north, ice is free everyday and often too much of it
With the Xbox you HAVE to have the same audio/video capabilities on both displays. You can manually turn features off to get it to work properly with both displays at the same time.
That disaster looks so fun and very nerdy... It's amazing!!!💪🏾🙂
Something I have learned in the past is sometimes over complicating things, while they may work, just isn't worth all the headache and effort that goes into it. And the end result is often never ideal. Pretty sure this is more expensive too if that thing is $6k.
It's cool though. No doubt about that. But I actually think multiple consoles would be more ideal as it gives you way more options. Especially when you have multiple people in your family that may play games. Or if you just have friends over often.
Edit: Don't even get me started on having to go back and fourth to switch out the game you want to play if it's not a digital copy. XD
yeah, its a cool concept but i think for consoles its just not worth it. Now for the PC is would be awesome to have the option to switch the output to whatever room your in.
@@urmomsahoe1 The easiest way to deal with the PC is to either use multiple mirrored outputs on the same gfx card and the TV's input selector or use secondary stream boxes at each tv.
Yeah we all know the situation where you design a nice technical solution and after 2 month you just see the user plugging a cable in the console 2 rooms away and running it to the other room. The path of least resistance doesn't only apply to electricity XD
100% true. I built a two zone setup for my parents house and they never used it how it was built.
The basic function here is AV matrix switching. There are stand alone matrix switches that do the same thing. As an arbitrary example, there's a 4x2 matrix switch (4 inputs to 2 outputs) on B&H for $1200 that handles 40Gb/s for 8k60 and 4k120 with all of the bells and whistles, including HDR, scaling, an audio breakout, control over IR, RS-232, LAN, and support for multiple home automation standards. To be clear, I'm not endorsing that particular product.
Instead of a Harmony-like remote, you could probably control all this via Home Assistant! Once everything's integrated, just add a page per room with big buttons that set everything up.
I've run a similar setup since 2007. 1 pc, 1 of each console. Up to 4 displays. All with Denon X series recievers which I have upgraded over the years as 1080 went to 4k, hdr, atmos etc. You need to do your home work on the receiver. With only 3 tv's you can do this with 1 receiver. But I wanted full Dolby setups in the living room and theater so I needed 2 receivers. The key here is know the receiver before you buy.
so excited to see the full house completely done soon!
I feel that a simpler and definitely cheaper solution would be to get an HDMI splitter for each of the inputs and then just run HDMI from the splitter to each of the outputs
Was thinking the same thing.
I mean, a cheaper option is to just buy an xbox for each room he wants it in. He could buy 12 for the cost of that unit alone, let alone the cabling costs.
Yeah but they needed a reason to make this video so they could write off the expenses.
@@Rick-vm8bl no way you think he bought that just for HDMI splitting
This receiver simply has a built-in HDMI Matrix. They can be purchased standalone from Amazon and other places.
I’ve done this at home on a extremely smaller scale with a hdmi switch, 2 splitters, and my capture card. Give me near 1ms response on all monitors. But it’s meant to switch my main bedroom tv signal to my consoles or pc or vice versa with my Apple TV. Or for a awesome multiplayer experience.
This is pretty dope. They can even do a KVM in the server room so they don't have to yell across rooms
My father in law works for a home theatre company and is so passionate about this kind of stuff. A minute into the video and I can already hear his voice explaining all the things he's taught me so far lol. Great video!
This is a great video because this is actually what I do for a living and it made me realize I'm actually good at my job
Same. So same.
The amount of time they spent in the AVR menu had me smiling.
Almost missed this video since it has almost nothing to do with the title, I usually don't watch console content but the house stuff has been great to follow.
Whoever buys Linus' house is going to need this playlist to understand how their house works
I like how he didn't even acknowledge the PlayStation
If you've seen any of his previous videos then it becomes obvious he's an xbox fanboy
^Unbased
@@MeanHereAT Go look at his WAN show take on Playstation. He believes that the Playstation brand will disappear in the next decade and lose most of its market share to Xbox.
I've been looking for content on "1 PC to multiple locations" for a long time - thank you for covering this - more content on this topic would be great!
This isn't a good solution for that. If you want to do it wired, just buy fiber optic HDMI/DisplayPort and USB cabling and run that to the second location. Even what they're doing here is probably much easier with a basic HDMI matrix switch.
Just use an HDMI matrix if your audio isn't very complicated
I would recommend to look into Pro AV Equipment (for example avproedge AC-MX-42x). Much easier, supports 4 4K120 inputs and two outputs and can be controlled via RS232 and Ethernet AND is MUCH cheaper than the receiver. I can imagine that bigger Matrix Switchers might get available soon.
This might be worth a try if you don't plan on using the receiever as an audio amp as well.
@ 3:27 Ba dum tishhhhh!, I liked it Linus even if you didn't get the reaction you wanted 😂😂
Tech tip for anyone looking to do something similar on a smaller scale: Aster software. Lets you split up a single cpu into multipule "workstations" with different monitors and inputs. I can game at my couch with a controller, or in the computer room with m&k with none of the nonsense that comes from having multipule displays connected to windows in a traditional sense. The ability to assign hardware and i/o to a specifc workstation unlocks so much potential that its hard to simply explain. As an examlpe: I can play games in the living room on the couch logged into my personal windows account using workststion 2, while at the same time, someone can be in the computer room using workstation 1 on a seperate windows user. All on 1 cpu and gpu. You need multipul m&k obviously. I have a 16 thread cpu thats water cooled, so even while gaming on one workstaton browsing the internet or light apps is no problem at all on the other workstation.
Like i said hard to explain but its cool as hell and i feel like its something people with more powerful hardware should consider because it really does feel like a cheat code lol
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So if I understand it correctly: You have a central computer, with displays and mks wired directly in to it?
@@liamburke4406 correct everything is plugged into a central computer. I'll break down each setup so its easier to understand.
Aster softwere lets you assign hardware to a "workstation," which is actually just a monitor, by usb ports. For me, workstation 1 is the monitor in my computer room. Workstation 1 hardware: monitor, mouse, keyboard, audio interface, with a couple spair usb ports assigned.
Workstation 2 is in my living room on my tv. I have a 25 ft hdmi cord that runs through the wall to my tv. Hardware signal is accomplished with a usb extention cord and hub. So hardware for workstation 2 is: tv, usb hub, wireless mouse, usb bluetooth adapter (for headsets or whatever), and an pc xbox controller adapter. Audio is sent to my tv via and hdmi cord, tv is plugged into my surround receiver via a headphone jack.
Sounds like a lot, but it really is quite simple and easy to set up.
Again, each system can be used at the same time without affecting the other (from a software perspective, performance will depend on what each system is trying to do obviously) which windows makes almost impossible without Aster. Just dont hit restart, that restarts both workstations lol! I think i paid like 50/60 bucks for it and the amount of headaches it reduced was worth every penny.
I don’t want to complicate the setup more but look into using Home Assistant to integrate to all the devices, then have smart buttons in each room that will give you a option to select the source then everything will switch to what you want. It will make it extremely easy for the family!!
Great video as always! Looking forward to the rest of the tech in the house!
He could easily integrate his Enphase solar panels as well!
I think one of the goals of this project is no cloud based smart home stuff. Great idea though!
@Osu Community with what? Smart plugs?
@Osu Community so what turns on first when you give that command. Is your projector or receiver smart? Cus I know Xbox doesn't support smart assistant features
@@sdtok527 with all the tech going in here he’ll have a lot of stuff that can be integrated!
Hell yeah, I needed to know this
Loved this, av is a game in itself. I have a similar but completely different challenge. Tv on one wall, projector on another in the same room. I need a way to rotate the speaker assignment so when I watch TV it doesn't sound like people talking to my right. Without having 5 speaker switches!?