Three High Schoolers SMIRKING In Court After Burning Cigarettes On Classmate’s Private Parts
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if i heard my child gave someone scissors to be used for torture, i’m dragging them to jail myself! i’d never excuse something like that.
FR LIKE IF MY CHILD EVER DOES THAT IM SENDING U STRAIGHT TO JAIL
same id be so disappointed in myself
exactly, the levels of shame I'd be feeling
Aint no way I raised a monster like that
@@_Definitely_Not_A_RobloxFanFR!
Literally rolled my eyes at the "apology" statement Hellen made. All she's missing is a ukulele and a webcam 🙄
real
I'm sorry I laughed at this. It made me think of the Colleen apology video
And onions
The toxic gossip train🎶
I sat on my couch with a gaping mouth and dissed each of her sentences out loud. It was sooo stupid. It was like an influencers apology-video turned ted-talk. So akwierd and who’s how incredible narcissistic she was allowed to become by her parents enabling her entitlement!
"You put 100 people in a room and they may not elect a leader, but I guarantee you they'll pick someone to hate."
That's very true.
Sadly, this is true
Scary thought 💭
True
Omg I had a feeling I heard this before!!! GAH this was in my neighborhood many years ago. Jesus. This is terrible!!!!!
Being out in the cold nude or nearly nude can outright kill you. They should have gotten heavier sentences.
exactly
I'll give them 20 or 25 years
Let alone her body is in shock as well
@@didi8926 *LIFETIME.*
Helen,Cocoa and Helen's boyfriend and the main persons involved should have gotten life and their accomplices should have gotten 20+ years. To kidnap and torture and innocent teenager with the intent to kill is far worse than someone that shoots someone and ends their life quickly. This was the horrific torture of an individual who did nothing to initiate the whole situation.
This is not bullying, this is attempted murder
@@-Reaganthey are examples of textbook antisocial personality disorder. It's horrifying to know that they wont "grow out" of aspd.
@@-ReaganAgreed. It’s also incredibly common for psychiatric disorders to start presenting themselves around 18-22 years old. It’s definitely something people should be paying attention to. There’s a difference between picking on someone vs obsessively committing violent acts against someone.
Trying to light gasoline in her hair.. Yes, attempted murder
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this is not attempted murder, its murder
It'll never cease to amaze me how when kids get in trouble for committing a horrible crime, the parents will do anything to blame anyone but the kid
I guess for some people it's difficult to come to terms that your kid is an awful person.
@KhayJayArt yes. Especially cuz many feel it means they were a failure as a parent
Like....no one WANTS to raise a murderer
why? you do realize that they kids are the reflection of their parents personality.
most of the time is that, only the minority/exceptions won't have parents as such. I'm not surprised. I am angry against the parents. I need to know more about them before you change my mind and say they are good parents
Right!!?? That’s what I was saying!! I started my comment out being like what’s wrong with kids nowadays!!?? But then she says that about what the parents said and I was like well there you go…how parents can be like that is beyond me!!??
Believe me, those parents have no guilt or back thoughts that they did anything wrong, living in China for 20 years , teaching at one of the biggest universities in Bj, I have seen all kinds of golden kids and their parents
Camilla, if you ever see this, I am so proud of you for calling the police and standing up for yourself in that way and making sure justice was served! Not only for but for anyone they’ve ever bullied or would’ve had they not gone to prison. You may have stopped them from committing murder in the future because if they can do what they did to you, then they’re capable of murder. You seem like such a strong, amazing women
For real, she reminds me of my favorite character from Lookism, Vasco :)
@@FC-fh5szomggg vasco
I was thinking the same ❤ I hope she is doing well
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The attorney's argument that it was just a "five hour mistake" is laughable. I wouldnt have been able to keep a straight face hearing something so dumb 🤦🏻♀️
😂😂😂 only 5 hours mistake
The attorney is a clown
Imagine DUI killed people and the defense was "45 minutes of mistake" :V
*stabs someone*
Oh it was just a one minute mistake that killed Simeon !
@@dimesuga2042The right to a fair trial is enshrined in our Constitution, which includes having an attorney make your best defense. If a defense attorney doesn't make an effort, the defendant can later appeal the verdict and get it overruled due to a mistrial. In the end the evidence against the defendants was overwhelming and they were found guilty. Don't get mad at defense attorneys for doing their jobs (and upholding the rights granted by the Constitution).
Does this excuse work for murder as well? I mean some of those crimes take less than 5 hours right? They can be only 10 minutes of someone's 40 years of life on this planet. . . .it's only 10 minutes in over 40 years, anyone can make a mistake in 10 minutes.
“Just a five hour mistake”. Reminds me of what Brock Allen Turner’s dad said. These parents are a disgrace and no wonders these kids turn out this way. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
This is also what immediately came to mind for me. The apple really doesn’t fall far…
You mean convicted rapist Brock Allen Turner?
@ville_ Has someone forgotten to take their meds again? NO ONE has ever watched your (non-existent) videos!
@@ville__poor bot, you’re so bad at your job you still have under 200 subs!! And no videos on your channel!! I hope whoever programmed you never gets any traction on the internet 🫶🏻
Lol..a five hour mistake..most murders take much less and horrific crimes...wth does it matter how many hours your crime takes. Dumbest argument. Whether you do it once or ten times..1 hour or a hundred..assault is assault.
I am glad Camellia was able to hold on long enough to call the police. I hope she feels safe and is healing now.
She's so brave. The entire school hushed about the bullying but she stood up for herself. She didn't take a bribe and pursued justice❤
Yes, I am so proud of her
I have respect for people like her she stood in the face of a monster and stared back wish i could apologize on behalf of humanity things like this are insane
Wtf how is china gonna be like well it was across the pound who cares???
Silence is the method to make a person mad. You go Camilia. So proud of you. I'm glad she's OK and alive.
Likewise
Strong willed girl
@@Mr.WestcottXabsolutely
I think they each should have received a minimum of 25 years followed by immediate deportation for life. Those sentences are an absolute joke.
EXACTLY all of them are around 10 years maximum?? Like how is that justified
deporting them just makes them less accountable.
They will repeat this behavior
Never trust the legal system to be on a poor victims side when perpetrators are wealthy. When all 12 people were unbuckled in her back seat she should have sped and hit the breaks. Instead her captors ran back to their homes or got light sentences.
I think Helen needs to experience what she put Camellia through. All five hours of it.
She probably will, in prison. But it will go on for 13 years, not five hours.
@@Ilikefrogs..But that 13 years would not be as bad as those 5 hours.
@@masidashaikh7488it is a different kind of hell, she won't be the top dog in an American prison,that kind of behavior is not tolerated inside there even if it's a woman prison, people are in there for murder,drug dealing,armed robbery, she gonna stare at a cell for atleast 8 years maybe more. The school is also a better place without her and she gonna get deported back to China afterwards
I soo agree with you
@@masidashaikh7488Faxx
Chamilia not giving them the pleasure of submission and begging was extremely uniquely inspiring and beautiful
I couldn’t imagine
This comment really touched me. I was not abused nearly to the point she was, but when Steph was describing this part, I understood immediately, like almost having a flashback to this intense feeling of “you will not break me”.
It’s weird because those moments were the strongest I’ve ever felt in my life, but they’re juxtaposed by the external reality of the situation. I’ve never thought about it as beautiful, but I can kind of see it through your comment.
It was also at that point where I just knew she would be okay. Yes, there’s going to be a long recovery for her, but once you feel that fire within you, it’s forever. You will refuse to be broken by the person who hurt you, even when that damage lasts
@@Milkman0101 ❤
Dude hearing that almost brought tears to my eyes… tough as nails.
@@Milkman0101as a child abuse survivor I feel this in my bones, my mother and brother would use gaslighting, manipulation, neglect, and sometimes for fun a lot of violence, even during those moments where my brother beat me, smashed my head into walls and strangled me, I NEVER begged and refused to break. He was sadistic and wanted me to beg, but I refused to beg, refused to cry, refused to submit. I escaped at 18, have never looked back (am 33). I have permanent nerve damage to my lower abdominal wall (lower stomach/pelvis from repeated kicking) and cPTSD, I shouldn’t have those kind of battle scars but I do, they’re part of me.
It’s helped me in some weird way when dealing with wannabe bullies in life, through college, university and work (before my nerve damage got too much, mostly housebound/bedridden disabled but that’s okay) because bullies want you to submit and cower in fear… but the way I grew up I just straight up didn’t fear these wannabe Mean Girls, I’d stare them down and challenge them, if they want to be bullies then they need to _try_ and break me and that won’t be happening, this happened moreso in college/uni (I dunno what it is about educational spaces and bullies but good LORD), and some kitchens I worked in with chefs unhappy in life trying to take it out on their staff.
Those intense moments going through actual hell where you’re barely holding onto consciousness? The one thought that always ran through my brain was “he will not break me, I refuse”.
I hope Chamilla is able to heal and knows just how strong she truly is, that she has a fighters spirit, that she’s a warrior, and even if the scars last a long time or maybe forever, she can’t be broken, she’s incredibly strong and brave. I hope she holds onto that feeling because it’s an incredible feeling to hold onto when going through your darkest day. Like battling cPTSD isn’t fun but I combat it with “but I’ll never be broken, this trauma sucks and I have to live alongside the trauma, but I’ll never have my spirit broken”, it’s hard to explain just how much that feeling really helps.
but it shouldn't be inspiring, your life as a victim of abuse and bullying is valuable. If you can stop the physical abuse sooner, you should and then you should report them right away.
No but how can Helen bully other people while looking like Momo and a bf that looks like he came out of a 2010 fanfic emo drawing 💀
NO LITERALLY. I’m not a bully but GODDAMN why does she look like Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall and then fell off harder than 2024 jojo siwa…
😂😂😂
Literally thought the same, usually bullies or popular people are at least decent looking. To me they look like evil gremlins.
Fr, that is what I was thinking
i thought The Glory was exaggerating the bullying, to hear this happen in real life is insane. this is sick. to think to do this to another person and to go along with it is horrific.
Girl, you do know The glory is based on real events right? except for the vengeance part.
South Korea rates of bullying are INSANE, if you take out The Glory that went full on with what happened (because it was a real case), usually they try to MINIMIZE how awful it actually is! The suicide rate of young students and young adults is higher than you could imagine.
If you really think the glorys bullying was exaggerated, even if you used to think that, you must really be innocent.
I wondered if the bullying in South Korea is as bad as the horrific depictions I've seen in various media.
she did a video on the real life glory case!!
Maximum respect to Camellia. That sort of singleminded determination to survive and get justice for herself hits close to home and I cannot stress enough just how strong she is. Fly high.
Did she die?
she didn't die@@imoosiixx
U need help @@ville__
She’s still alive
@@ville__ idc.
Helen deserves a life sentence, the things she did are straight up disgusting and horrible, i cant image the pain and pure fear camila must have felt. Also the AUDACITY to laugh and smirk, even interfere with the speech is just unbelievable, that girl is just unbelievable
Helen is a sociopath without the system in place to prevent her darkest instincts. Thank God for our justice system. She will always be a sociopath but she will never behave poorly again! This has shown her she is not above the law! Hopefully in China they keep a watchful eye on her there too!
Literally. She’s pure evil.
and if you see her videos shes smiling
@@ville__Guess what? You've found yourself a copycat 😂😂 @notville_
Was with you til the last word-she’s not a witch. That’s an insult to real witches. 😂
Those parents think the justice system in the US is as easy as in China 🤣😂
Easy in China? I wish the US would adopt some Chinese consequences, like Caning. Hellen and the others should be caned. Prison sounds awful, but caning and prison is down right horrifying imo! They all got of pretty easy considering.
I think that's why China's crime rate is so much lower than the US. The US justice system in a walk in the park compared to China. We let rapists roam free or give them a slap on the wrist. If they do go to jail for a few minutes, we have some of the nicest prisons in the world. 3 meals a day, TV, a gym, libraries, visitors, ect all on the US taxpayers dime. Commissary is for extra little treats here. Without it you can still survive just fine. If I committed a crime in China (which I wouldn't, because I know they don't fuck around) I'd be hauling ass back to the US. Much rather take my chances here.0
An upper-middle class private school in one of the most liberal sectors of the US? I'm amazed they didn't give these kids participation awards and let them go the next day.
@@JB-bm1to So you want people to be paid to beat people up they don't like? Also, choice of way to punish people is not the same as the function of the justice system. How harsh a punishment should be can always be up for discussion but the fact of the matter is that some of these people fled to China and will never feel a consequence for their heinous acts, cause China choose who should be punished differently whereas I am glad America put people like Hellen behind bars.
They thought...but SIKE!!!
I hope Camilia filed civil law suit against ‘the evil three’ in the States so she could be compensated for her physical and emotional injuries.
Ngl the audacity to smirk and behave like that in court is out of the world for me, cases like this make me doubt humanity
then why do you tune in to this true crime channel?
certainly not for the tales of heroism that come from literal criminals
It showed an extreme lack of respect for the American criminal justice system. This did not endure her to the judge at all! She was delusional. But these consequences will finally humble her and perhaps she might become a better human because of it! It’s happened while she’s young. She will never behave so poorly when she is freed!
@@wham_sandwitch The commenter just expressed their disgust toward this specific case... why are you so pressed????
@@wham_sandwitchTheyre allowed to express disgust by the contents of the video 😭 are you okay
@@wham_sandwitchIs that the only option for tuning in to true crime? If so, and you disagree with the comment, then you tune in to believe in humanity. Rare take
This is so strange. I went to an all girls school and mostly the bullying was psychological (and incredibly petty!) But if a girl got physical then her status actually dropped. She'd be considered hooligan and the other girls slowly backed away from her.
Same here. This was in the UK in the 90s though..
@NotVille_bro what??
@@dawnatkinson7704 Same, I was thinking of my school days in the 90s. Maybe because this is a mixed school? No idea.
@NotVille_yeah.. not true lil bro
@NotVille_ Hi it's okay little one. Delucions often happen when reality is too much to handle. I hope you're happier with your own ☺️
Seems Helen is another rich kid whose parents throw money at her instead of affection. As a result, she became a monster jumping from one antics to another to get the parents' attention. Eventually, too much is too much and kid gets shipped off to USA. The monster is now out of control. Shame the rich parent couldn't afford boarding schools? Strange
camilla really came out strong in this case. helen really seems to be so out of touch with reality, living in her own bubble and camilla understood what kind of person she was and didn't give her the satisfaction. so much respect for her. wish nothing but good things happen to her from here on
Bullying should become a C-felony for teens n adults. It’s not something that money or power shouldn’t make their kids exempt from this rule in any country imo! Let’s think of the bullied, n empower them and not the bully!
I agree totally. I was the bullied one in school, but back then, I got a break when I went home because of no internet yet, but the mental torture and some physical I almost gave up. Dealing with that at school and sexual abuse at home, I'm proud I survived 😊
ESPECIALLY when its super physical like this, but honestly all continuous bullying should be a felony, even cyber bullying, when its enough to destroy someone mental health…
What does c-felony mean specifically?
@@ville__ , if it really was, then why in the f
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@@paxhumana2015it's bait, just ignore these sort of comments.
The way that she mentioned studying the bible as if it justifies her actions and lack of remorse 💀💀 And the way that she started bragging about being studious in jail was just pathetic. As a religious person I'm so sick of ppl like Helen misusing religion like this.
I am Christian, and I rolled my eyes at that. Uh huh you lil twerp. Smh.
I’ve seen so many cases where people who have done absolutely horrendous things will suddenly “turn to god” as soon as it’s clear they will be facing the consequences of their actions and what’s worse is when they get lesser sentences because of it! Then these same people will go on and commit the same crime again and people are shocked?
Yep. And it's part of what's driving most ppl my age AWAY from religion
It's obvious that those who turn to religion to get out of the consequences of their action do not practice the religion and are therefore not good representatives of the religion.
It's like mean girls grow up becoming nurses
Whenever I think bullying in Webtoons or anime is over the top, I remember how many stories like these are there. It’s frightening how comically evil people can be.
Camellia was truly a very strong teenager to endure all of that. But something which still bothers me is that why the school in which many other students were bullied by helen was not investigated? Especially the teachers who blindly let all of that happen.
Just FYI, since the incident, the school has changed their name to California University Preparatory School in an effort to hush the situation. What’s laughable is that the director of the school charges for classes on how to be better educators. Absolutely wild.
God this country really is silly huh. I got over the rose tinted glasses a long time ago. All I see around me is misery, I can't wait to leave to this country.
@@mycelia_owThis country? The US. No I don't think it is. These students were all from China and because their parents had connections and money they thought they were going to get away with it. They didn't. The school yes I agree is silly but the U.S. justice is not as bad as China's. Over there you can pay your child's crimes away, here you can't. So like I said the school itself is garbage but not our system. Plus these students will never be allowed to step ground on U.S. soil again.
@@mycelia_owWhere you heading off to? Me, my friends and I are still deciding 😅
@@jamessargent6689 Lol if I had the money I'd find a nice place in Netherlands. For now I'm in the process of getting a work or student visa in Ontario, Canada. Might not be the greatest alternative to the US but it's fairly cheap and close if you want a one-way. Much quicker gaining citizenship after working or studying there too.
Those aren't teenagers, those are psychopaths.
For real. No empathy no remorse no human decency too
Helen could have been a serial killer in the making
@@sharpe8888 for real. In her future life
can we use the word psychopath correctly please not every bad person is a psychopath 💀💀
Huh? @@killjinxx
.”what kind of justice system is this?!”
The kind that makes sure people are actually punished
That poor girl! She showed a lot of bravery and strength with police and the court process. I hope she’s doing better mentally now and is continuing to heal. Sending her much love.
Camilia is a tough ass girl. She went through hell yet she stood up for herself.
For real. She is strong mentally n spiritually
Absolutely. Still, I don't understand how she allowed these people to treat her like that all the time without ever fighting back or at least going against.
Then again, considering the high number of students who participated in this man hunt and the total lack of control and supervision - that allowed the situation to get out of control.
I believe that in this case one could assume that at least Helen is sociopathic. So, maybe fighting back was not really possible.
@@saymyname2417 could be. 🤔
@@Mr.WestcottX- We can only guess at some point and hope that thing improve.
@@saymyname2417 same here. In schools and the future. Things get better not worse.
The defence of scissors boy just sends me. "All he did was supply an assault weapon." Unbelievable.
my exact reaction. also the parents defending the girl who "just watched" like she wasn't supposed to do anything to stop them
It's a shame they're taught to keep silent. @@mercxgirl23
@@mercxgirl23I understand why some people would just stand and watch it still woulda been 2 against 12 she woulda just got herself beaten but at the same time there’s no excuse for watching something like this play out and not call the cops while it’s happening all she woulda had to do was dial 911 put it on silence so the kids didn’t hear and before yk it the cops are there
@@yahirzavala-nm9ur that's contradicting. u say u get why she would just stand and watch (bcuz of the physical implications of a fight) but also say "there's *no excuse* for watching and not calling". if there's no excuse for watching and not calling that means *no excuse*. saying youre scared of a fight or a beating is still an excuse to do nothing.
any one of the kids who "just watched" could just say they need to leave for any reason even the bathroom if they thinks they'll be attack if they say want to stop this or to go home. and call. even text anyone else to call 911. parents could have.
or they could record it like it's "funny" and take it to the police.
so that furthers my belief that they are evil for standing and watching.
Standing and watching out of fear of what's gonna happen to yourself when it's time to save another person is how you know ur selfish
@@mercxgirl23 that’s exactly what I said what are you yapping about when I mean standing around and doing nothing I meant as in taking action at that very moment and risk herself getting hurt too the fact that they did nothing afterwords and stayed for the entire duration is what’s unforgivable
Lord of the flies is actually based on a real story.
6 boys at a catholic school in tonga decided to steal a boat and survived on an island for 3 weeks before being saved from a shipping cargo boat. They all managed to survive because their culture is rooted in survival techniques
I am familiar with that story. The Tongan boys were nothing like the boys in the book though. They were friendly and kind, worked together very well and are still friends. Pretty cool the real life story behind it!
And the boat they shipwrecked on (they were running away from an awful catholic boarding school) the owner ended up getting them incarcerated for. & the guy who rescued them from the island, got them out and gave them all jobs on his fishing boat. They ended up being lifelong friends!
@@JB-bm1toThank Hollywood for adding all the extras on the boys' character and the true story.
@@josephgee2515 true, why would they give an accurate depiction when they could make them seem like savages for extra entertainment.
@@JB-bm1to Extra entertainment, brings extra revenue.
Money- the root of all evil.
"My son only grabbed the scissors" "My daughter just watched" They never stopped them doing it
Crazy how not one of these students had the critical thinking skills to talk to Camillia themselves. They just took Helen's words at face value, without ANY investigation, and ran with it.
Sheeple.
You mean talk to her to find out if she was talking shit about them?
I doubt that anyone actually believed that. It's just an excuse they accepted to feel "in the right".
@@Kamakiri711I’m glad you you said it. They were looking for a way to show Hellen they were down for her. Any reason would’ve been a good reason. It had nothing to do with shit talking and more to do with showing loyalty to a psychopath (I’m not diagnosing Hellen, I’m not using my armchair MD today lol).
@@chinaking918 Yup, it's like that joke "Did you just look at my girl!?" -No. "What, are you saying she's ugly?"
Like, even a transparent, flimsy excuse will work. Anything to even just faintly deflect their own sense of responsibility. Victim blaming at its finest. "She deserved it, we were just teaching her a lesson. She should have known her place." Etc...Standard bullying stuff, really.
@@Kamakiri711 You said this perfectly. I applaud you 👏🏽
Had a girl like Helen in school. She didn't know who I was and came up to me cause I was talking to her boyfriend in PE and slapped me in the face. Said a lot of mean stuff and embarassed me in front of students. Most of them stayed quiet but some didn't laugh. She didn't know my dad was a teacher in high school. I went to the principals office which was my dads friend and put on the water works. She ended up suspended and my dad told her she better not be one of her student in highschool cause she'll get it coming. She was so shocked. I saw her a few times and smiled at her. She attended the high school and stayed quiet. Stopped her bullying cause if she got kicked out of school she would have to go to the high school all they way to the other town. Don't be afraid to stand up to bullies. If they're manipulative be more manipulative than them. They will never stop, if they know you'll stay silent you'll just be a target. I never take bullying, no one should.
What is sad is in many cases kids do report & its not taken seriously, nothing happens to the bully & the bullying gets worse. It is important to also tell your parents.
I am sorry it happened to you .
But you got lucky that the provider either is a good one or know your family .
Often it will be brushed over
@@louyou6614 Thanks, thats true, but I think most schools don't tolerate bullying, she was only suspended but I think it was my dad that scared her. It's best to tell our parents sometimes, I think I'll be the type of parent who will never brush this kinds of incidents off since it happened to me.
@@diosahalstrom5450
Shoutout to your dad , the man , the legend .
Parents are often the greatest support
Oh please, the only reason why she faced consequences is because you knew the teacher and the principal. You had connections.
This isn’t the inspirational anecdote you think it is. This didn’t happen because you “outplayed” her. You used your connections to shut her up.
i love my daughter with all of my heart but if she came home and told me she tortured someone or whatever im calling the damn cops. Ill question where i went wrong and take on my own consequences for bad parenting and thats how it should be. Kids need to learn consequences you can still love them and teach them properly! Ill never understand how some parents just coddle their kids to the point they do this or worse because they feel entitled or above everyone cus mommy and daddy said theyre a princess/prince and DESERVE the world its sickening 🙄
All those bullies are just evil! And the fact the they were smiling in court! Disrespectful! They are just evil people!
The Bullying that was going on to Camilia is honestly disgusting and how she must felt during this whole time.
how u watch a 56 min video in 3 mins?????
@@Scloper stephanie has this podcast on spotify that she posts ahead on.
@@ville__u ok?
@@ville__ u rlly don't know how to read the room
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Respect to Camillia for speaking up and getting her bullying to stop. That takes a lot of inner strength to put her situation out there and if she didn't her bullying might've gotten worse
worse than being tortured for 5 hours?? then being made to drive them home? I'm with you on the respect for the girl but that is a level of bullying that couldn't have got much worse
@@toriv6837they could have eventually severely injured her to the point of being disabled or they could have killed her, bullies have done it before. That’s how it could have gotten worse.
@@toriv6837it most certainly can get worse. For example, they could’ve tried to set her on fire again, when she’s dry. You are very naive if you think that bullying is as bad as it can get. You heard of that story of the girl in Japan who got kidnapped by a bunch of boys, was r@ped, abused, starved, and died, then her body I believe was put into cement or something
@toriv6837 Being dead is the worst possible scenario which Helen is capable of because she's psycho
Where to find this information? I cannot find it anywhere!!!
A five hour mistake? Would the parents still say the samd thing if they were subjected to the five hour torture? Would the perpetrators?
Very tru
It's amazing to me how ppl just never hit the bullies back in these cases. Here in Brazil, you can try verbal bullying and ppl might try to ignore but, if you try to escalate, be SURE you'll get a beating back
Right. In my home country public bullying never happens cause if you're a bully you'll get beaten up. From my personal life I only know/heard of girls who went through sexual abuse, but the bullies never got any punishment cause it's in the interest of both sides to keep it private.
Bro if u bully in South Africa just have a hospital bed ready.
Try that with 12 people surrounding you.
@@sdraulitolito44 tbh, u try that BEFORE things get to this point. Like this is NOT the first time the victims were bullied. You fight back to show ur not an easy target. That's how u stop stuff from escalating to this
@@nikearts6268 sure buddy.
Hellen's entire speech is ludacrous. Not once does she say sorry to the victim directly.
Written by an expensive lawyer.
Because she's genuinely not sorry. It's terrifying. She shouldn't ever be released.
Same with the rest of them. They're just as evil.
is it somewhere on youtube to watch?
@@ville__what in the actual fuck is this??? You said it best… repeatedly actually,
NOBODY ASKED
if bullies aren’t properly held accountable as children, they will keep being bullies into their adulthood. their unchecked behaviour may escalate and it's very hard for them to change. bullying is not just “kids being kids,” it’s a serious issue and it's not taken as seriously as it should be.
Hence why society is like is now
correct
Exactly. Bullying should never be seen as 'kids being kids' it is NOT supposed to be part of childhood
@@hadesbrown in reality, bullying is a part of life childhood and also adults, but the question is, how far the bullies will go
About 6 min into the story when the parents perspective was shared I was like "Well there is a major problem" because none of them were mad at their kids.
The defendants in court :
We got the Jigsaw doll from Saw, Samara from The Ring and Ichi the Killer
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If an American did that in China no one would ever see that person ever again.....minor or adult !!!!!
Being bullied doesn't mean what everyone thinks for the most part. It's criminal assault, it's harassment. As an adult I'd call the police. What can a young kid do? It's heartbreaking
Kids can call the police too. Why couldn't they?
@@IzzyOnTheMovethey may not know or think it wouldn't do anything.
We really need to start using those terms. Adults will do anything they can to ignore bullying and dismiss it as “kids being kids” instead of acknowledging it as assault and harassment.
@@ReAllyT1978 and how often do the police ignore kids until it’s way too late.
@@ReAllyT1978Of course they know. There's also parents, friend's parents, neighbors, hopefully a trusted teacher, counselor, etc that would call the police. 5hey may be scared to talk to an adult, but plenty of parents of a friend call it in. The friends know and often pass it on to their own parents to help. They're not as stuck as your thinking. There's always exceptions, but this is done quite often, thankfully.
It is so disgusting that all of the adults and most of the kids don't get life sentences, especially Hellen she deserves a life sentence for what she did to Chamelia and Mai. Also, for the other people she assaulted in that school. The fact that she had audacity to smirk and giggle in court is just unbelievable.
I hope she tries to play queen bee in prison and see how that goes for her.
They also needs mental help. They cannot just keep her in the prison & let the psycho go. It's dangerous someone could end up dead.
@@beewest5704 True
More disgusting is that Helen is released out of jail already
I am so proud of Camilla for speaking up and getting justice. It is so so important to get the courage to speak up when things like this happen. I know it’s not always easy, but I’m glad it didn’t get worse for her and the police took it seriously.
The lack of accountability by these parents is astonishing!
This is why they turn out like this because the parents don’t reprimand them for their bad behavior.
i cannot even explain how horrible these people are SMIRKING in court is crazy
For real.
fr like girllll
Why are we reducing a severe case of physical abuse down to bullying? Bullying is destroying somebody's homework, taking somebody's lunch money (even though it is technically theft or robbery) or systematically harrassing another student. The excuse that it is how it is done in China is getting worn thin. This is a case for the authorities. Not the teaching staff or a hall monitor.
I'm with you on this one. What they did may have started as simple bullying, but once it crossed the criminal threshold it was no longer bullying.
This was attempted murder.
I don't know about elsewhere but in Germany, at least the part where I'm from, it's really not unheard of for bullies to be physically violent. In my school some kid actually lost an eye due to bullying for example.
This isn't me saying this is fine, but rather that bullying has to be taken seriously because it really puts lives at risk.
All the exchange students I knew in high school were extreme high achievers, got great grades, spoke better English than native speakers and were constantly trying to improve themselves. As a group and as individuals, they amazed me and made me grateful for my opportunities in life. It's sad to see these kids made all the wrong choices and didn't realize what advantages they'd been given:/
Rich, spoiled kids being rich, spoiled kids who had 0 consequences at home
I can honestly say if my kid was ever involved in something this heinous I wouldn't protect him. I definitely wouldn't blame anyone, other than maybe myself, I'd have to wonder where we went wrong in raising him.
imagine if helen tried to bully someone at a public school...
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She wouldn't last 5 seconds
She wouldn't survive
Imagine one of the 6 who got away their partner wants to go to America on holiday and they just gotta go “nah I’m banned from the US cause I tortured a kid when I was there”
I should not have laughed as hard as I did reading this.
This has nothing to do with too little adult supervision. In Helen's case she really believed that with her wealthy parents she'll be let off the hook. She also seems to be a textbook example of someone with antisocial personality disorder.
All I gotta say is let these kids come to the hood, that shit wouldn't roll over here.
legit
What I was thinking rn
I think if the case had happened overseas they maybe wouldn’t have faced the consequences they faced in USA. Those kids where bound to do horrible things as you saw their parents didn’t give a damn. So I can only imagine how it would have gone if they were back in their home country where their parents had more “power”
I agree. America might not be perfect but we don’t allow the physical bullying so many students who live overseas receive
@@789lollypop1 u do
@@789lollypop1 also especially in recent years, I think bullying has gone down because kids are faced with the reality that that kid you are bullying might commit a school shooting. Half ironically, I remember some dudes being nice to the weird kid because they wanted “the text”
The parents were not the upper echelon so their 'power' on corrupting the legal system is limited and in China punishments are actually harsher. They also seem to have less mass shootings in their schools so...
@@sampfancresta930China would have given her a slap on the wrist as long as parents had a respected profession. The shootings are irrelevant and it’s disgusting that you used such a tragic topic to defend China’s corrupt system.
I felt physically ill while you were reading Helen's "apology" letter. 🤢 I can't believe she won't rot in prison for the rest of her life!
For real. For her awful or inhumane acts
I felt ill listening to what they did to Camilla (spell check). I was so disgusted I had to fast forward it.
She's out of jail already 💀
Ngl what Hellen wrote to help her case is the most funniest thing ever 😂
I just literally cannot understand this.. what are they getting out of this?? Its not even bullying it’s just psychotic torture
I am so proud of Camilla for going to the police and not hiding this horrible torture. I think it’s unfortunate that Helen’s other victims weren’t able to give statements at the trial, but that would likely be considered prior bad acts. I’m no legal expert but I do follow a lot of trials online while I work. It’s amazing how much you can pick up about the “justice” system here in America.
I’m so glad that I stumbled upon this channel a couple of weeks ago. Stephanie is the best storyteller.
Absolutely! Just found her channel a few weeks ago and I'm totally obsessed lol 😊
Bullying usually rises from insecurity. Seeing as she has money and material things, I’d guess she’s insecure about the fact that she looks like that.
I bet.
not to be superficial but that's what i thought too
That’s exactly what I thought lol. I was like how does she get away with all this shit with a face like that? Looking like South Park Caitlyn Jenner.
There is plastic surgery but yeah attitude cannot be changed under the knife.
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Camellia was so strong, stronger than I was when I was on my knees begging for my life at 15 years old when i went through something similar. I hope she finds healing and lives her best life after such a traumatic experience
Actually, this type of thing happened to me too. Apparently, the consequences I suffered from getting bullied were just things like pouring water, torn notebooks, verbal abuse, spreading false rumors and allegedly accusing me of things that I never did which are pretty much the same but are nothing compared to Camilla's case. So as a victim myself I know how devastating and painful it might have been for her.
Thank God they didn't kill her. There are several stories like this that come to mind (Shanda Sharer and Skylar Neese, in particular) that if you follow true crime, you've probably heard multiple times, but they ended much worse. I think Camellia is very brave and I'm glad she spoke out. I hope she's doing alright. I feel weird using the word "lucky," but she really is lucky to be alive.
These monsters should be in prison for the rest of their lives. They tried to kill her, that's what they wanted to do. I don't really see a difference between attempted murder and murder...The intention was the same. And trying to light someone on fire? My God! That has to be one of the most brutal ways to kill a person. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. I was a teenage girl, I went through petty beef and was bullied, but I never wanted to physically harm anyone. There is something seriously wrong with these people.
I know "The Hangover" is a comedy, but there's a line from it that I think about a lot in situations like this. When Stu is breaking up with his fiancee he says, "You're just a bad person. Like, all the way through to your core." There are people like that in the world and it's really scary.
That true
camilla’s mental toughness throughout the torture is absolutely crazy. i hope she’s doing fine and getting all the good things in this world
Camilla is so brave. So so so brave. She's just a teenager and never once showed weakness in front of these horrible people. her story is like from a movie but like those main characters she got justice. Power to her and I hope she heals from the mental and physical trauma from this experience.
Helen's attitude in court seems like a really bad understanding of American culture.
I think at first she was over confident because she's rich, so there's no way she'll be prosecuted. Then when she realised she was, she started thinking, "Oh, what fo Americans like? Jesus! They like Jesus!" Thus the whole Bible thing.
Bullying should always be a crime. It’s harassment and often leads to physical assaults. Not to mention the long term psychological effects of being bullied that the victims have to live with for the rest of their lives.
This is disgusting on how much this reminded me of “The Glory”. Camilia was so strong tho. Many victims would’ve gave in, felt defeated, or exited because it seems like no way out & many wouldn’t have gone to the police for help. She saved her own life by doing what she did & I pray she not only gets help for what she went through, but I hope she is having better days
This was attempted murderer. Sentences should have been handed out accordingly.
40:07 Camellia has such a strong mentality. I hope she becomes a great person and not become a perpetrator of her trauma because that kind of strong mentality is scary.
The audacity to smirk in court is just wow disgusting
Truly this is one of the most horrifying bullying cases that I have heard
My heart and prayers go out to the victim , she didn't deserve any of this and she deserves so much better
girl, you really telling me you watched the whole 56 min podcast in 4 mins?
@@Scloper its called changing the speed
@@ville__ You need to lay off the uppers bud, get some rest, shower, and eat.
@@kanamenoname210 sick bro, you let me know when youtube impliments a 20x speed
@@Scloper stephanies podcast on spotify posts the same case just ahead of time, so they either listened to that or have just heard of the case before?? lol
I love how she explains the whole story and explains every single details on every video she does
Camilla’s story is truly inspiring and i’m so proud of her for getting the justice she deserves. bullying in school 100% should be taken more seriously and as someone who was bullied in an American school (not as much as her) these things don’t really get noticed until it reaches the point of near death
I teared up hearing what happened to Camilla, if I was her father I would spend the rest of my life seeking vigilante justice for my daughter. The judge that handed down these sentences was way too lenient on these monsters. The American justice system is usually heavy handed, it makes me wonder why theses sentences was so low. These monsters spent 5 hours torturing a fellow human being, a classmate, and showed no remorse. They made her drive them home, this is about as evil as it could get and to know that our justice system failed the victim and society by handing such low sentences makes my blood boil with rage.
watching this instead of studying for my exams,,i also just cant understand how ppl can be so evil its disgusting
@@ren-kj6ho bruh i didnt watch it all😭the title of the video directly shows what disgusting actions the students did
same i have a mock exam in a month and im procrastinating real bad 😢
@@ville__ womp womp
@@sweetlikebubblegum_ my mocks are tmr😭😭😭
@@ville__u have no videos dude 🥸
The nerve of Helen and the boyfriend looking like that bullying someone.
I grew up in the San Gabriel Valley so this story was really fascinating. I was a little confused at the beginning because you started off by talking about three students, then about six students and six parents. Otherwise, I love your storytelling. Your analogy to Lord of the Flies was so spot on. I think that their environment played a huge part on their actions. At the same time, how does a good person feel that burning a cigarette on someone is acceptable?
Imagine your perpetrators smirking in courtroom after burning your private parts, some people are just heartless
That's not allowed in American court so blame the judge for not doing something about that. They'll usually get contempt of court for that and get more time in Jail
@@Angelface11 she says in the story that the judge told her to stop. it’s hard to actually stop someone from making a face seeing as the only person controlling their expressions is themself..
@@killjinxxBut it's not hard to stop proceedings and add charges.
@@Mewsette1 pretty sure you legally can’t just stop court and charge them with contempt before the sentence has decided 💀💀
@@killjinxx Yes you can.
I used to have a friend who lived on the same street as me. When we had a falling out, her mom would bully me anytime she saw me. I remember feeling “wow, how sick is this woman, we’re kids and she’s an adult”
O...kay?
@@daniellesve5595 R u confused about something? Or it’s probably something u would do so ur confused why it’s wrong!! 🙄🙄
@@new_to_planet4424 no they’re just confused on how it’s relevant
@@daniellesve5595what is there to be confused about..? your comment was legit unnecessary
@@salimahk22 your comment was legit unnecessary and also completely irrelevant.
Definitely it all started at home. Wondering how the one child policy that their parents grew up with shaped them, or other society issues, that may not be blatant at the time, but definitely affected behavior.
love the "lord of the flies" reference stephanie!
She's a wonderful story teller. I could very happily listen to her narrate that story in fine detail from beginning to end. It'd be such a treat.
I hate that we can’t say suicide anymore. We can’t say kill anymore. We can’t say murder anymore. We can’t say sexual assault anymore. We can’t say anything important anymore. It’s considered rude and offensive to say things that are important now. EDIT: I meant youtube. Not society as a whole
You just can’t throw it around like we used to, that’s all
No one is stopping you
to be fair, it’s not as much society that’s stopping us from saying these things, it’s the economy. youtube doesn’t want these words said because if affects ad revenue because many advertisers see those words as “unfit for children” and kids are the biggest market on the internet. it’s extremely frustrating
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@@strychnine-ik1mc I never said I was society. I meant it was youtube.
It is so telling that the letter to the judge/court from Helen spends about 1% of the content on the victim and then the entire rest of the statement is entirely about Helen and how this situation has impacted on her life. This is textbook malignant narcissism, she has zero empathy for anyone else and only sees other peoples suffering through the way it impacts on her life.
How can these kids be so heartless and have no empathy for anyone. The cruel things they did to others are despicable. I don't have any faith that these awful people will be reformed. It is infuriating that their parents can not or are not willing to open their eyes and see the picture clearly and accept their child's part. It is so easy not to accept responsibility and stand up, do the right thing, and be a parent for once and not your child's friend.
Sweet Camilla I’m so so sorry that you had to endure the pain and trauma of what you went through but please know you’re stronger than most for not only surviving this attack but reporting it so that maybe just maybe no one else will go through the same cc!!! Mm
Helen is the poster child of Bullying and entitled behavior and she probably learned it from her parents. She is going to be like that as a adult too and is going to do life in prison someday.
Typical China things
“He just brought the scissors” lady should be shamed
At the risk of sounding very ignorant, why is bullying in the Asian countries the way that it is? so extreme and so physical. Bullying exists everywhere in the world of course, but the bullying stories from Korea, China and Japan sometimes go beyond simple bullying, its assault at best and at worst attempted murder and the bullys and parents expect no consequences . Why is it like that?
I had a former class mate tell me I saved the entire class when I moved and started 6th grade. Everyone in that class was under the heal of a girl called Therese.. She was a mean and poorley raised girl who I believe never got to be a better person.. I just didnt care about all the crap she tried to do to me and I stood up for everyone she harrassed. I am 46 years old but I am still proud over hos I was able to handle that situation.. I dont know how things turned out for my old class mates but I hope they are all doing great.. exept for Therese 😂😂
Helen is a psychopath, usually anyone arrested and going to trial will look somber and repentant, at the very least look like they are taking this seriously. Her smirks, glares, interrupting the victims statement, and laughter to her boyfriend prove she wasn’t the least bit sorry. Camilla obviously had suffered greatly at their hands for who knows how long in school. My heart breaks for her and knowing several got off by fleeing the country is disgusting. I can only hope they are known online and that Chinese citizens give them a taste of bullying back as justice. Prayers to Camilla and her family, I can’t imagine their pain and anguish of sending their daughter to a foreign country, believing that she would be cared for and protected and for such evil things to be done to her, the weight of those wounds must be a heavy burden.
It baffles me how some parents consistently believe their children can do no wrong, even when it’s CLEAR that they have. To be honest, this type of “parenting” is defo what’s made their children engaging in problematic behavior in the first place, as they likely think they’d never have to face accountability for their actions
I went to college at 17 away from home and I never would have done smth like that EVER.
You are so good at making this suspensful, fun and informative. You and your team are truly amazing ❤