I'm glad someone impartial was able to finally make this comparison. As you said, hp is hard tp pull out of the NA vq especially after a certain point so 4 hp is promising, but thats within the margin of error really. You could put it on the same dyno tomorrow and be down 2-4 hp. But you nailed it -- you have to decide if the extra money is worth it to MAYBE see minimal gains.
i have ported upper and lower intakes, 2.5 inch longtube intakes, shorty headers, test pipe, manzo exhaust, i only got 332whp 271wtq, for me most noticeable difference is when you change your diff bushings and add subframe collars along with diff brace
@@-MoTioN yeah, it's a bit on the raspy side with a lot of drone; I have DC shorty headers, and the piping is slightly larger than Z1 shorty. Non-resonate test pipe. Also, the negative thing I could tell you is the gaskets that came with it. I had to replace many times until I decided for copper one. Also, it got OK fitment compared to many cheap exhausts. Like the DNA, for example. Also, it's really heavier than oem
Well done. 3 inch intakes are duds UNLESS you do port your manifold and TB's matching the 3" intake's diameter. If you have a bottleneck in your intake system then 3" aftermarkets won't make a difference.
i know this is an old comment but i have to mention 2 things, you cannot Port your stock TB as they are electronically controlled and the valve itself needs to be replaced, using bigger TB like from the Maxima "76mm" or EPA TB will make driving worse as you will have a lot of rev hang and response will be worse, but you will gain a lot of torque, also with larger TB it will rev bit slower
The 3 in intakes are only as good as the rest of the breather mods. I had 3in admin tuning intakes +FI RHFC + ARK exhaust and only made 306 awhp @ RT Tuning I swapped to ISR LTH and kept the ARK exhaust + admin intakes and made 346 awhp on the same dyno @ RT Tuning. If you had LTH you'd pick up a great deal thanks to the 3 in Intakes. At least that was my experience and I have a dyno to prove it.
You would have gotten those same numbers with headers and 2.5" takeda intakes. The manifolds/stock headers on the G are more restrictive than the intake system. With that being said, you probably would have seen a gain of 15 - 20 hp just replacing the HFCs with test pipes.
just ordered some catless downpipes and 3 inch long tube intakes, gonna get a tune for both, i got a 2012 g37 sedan (AWD), how much whp you think ill gain from those?
@@coolsteff94 id hope so, i mean the awd models lose more at the wheels so catless downpipes and 3 inch long tube intakes with a street tune, you think id gain like at least 30-40 whp??
Thats crazy i made 330 with hfc full exhaust, ported manifold & stillen longtubes with gallery gaskets, gtr spark plugs qand water pump ect done before tune
Kevan, great video! I am really glad you've set out to answer these questions. I am definetly interested to see your ported lower and upper plenum results! I've personally been going back and forth on seeing if I wanted to commit to this mod or not. Sorry if I missed it, but I am curious of the following: 1. Did you use the same dyno for both the before and after dyno runs? 2. If the vehicle was tuned after you put on the Takeda 2.5" intakes, but before the "baseline dyno?"
Admin has awesome products and tuned numbers. But the hypothesis is that most of the numbers are a result of bleeding edge tunes that are then backed off before customers receive their cars. In fact there are a larger number of failures as a result of these daring maps. But please don’t take this comment as me throwing shame it’s just their style and ppl go for that. In fact pushing the limits drives any industries and there are more conservative tuners that push as much as they can while keeping longevity or dependability in mind.
@@roadtoamilli1680 💯 it could of been a loss 😩 But the Butt dyno loves em. I fell like there is more power lower. I need to overlay the two dyno sessions.
@@3rdPedalMedia I think many depends also on motor condition I don't want to make any kind of accusations but there are some posts online about Admi... Messing up the knock sensor
Where are the exhaust gases going to when you're on the Dyno? It looks like an enclosed space. Seems dangerous. I don't know that shop's setup though so it might be safe. All the Dyno shops I've been to have the exhaust close to a large door or have tubes that attach to the exhaust leading outdoors. Besides that, clean car and excited to see what else you have in store for it! 🤙
I know this is a little old but I have the takeda intakes that m merge into 1 filter and I want to replace that with 2 separate filters on the end of each intake like you said you did in this video but I don’t know which ones would fit. Do can you help me and send me a link to some that would fit? Thanks , great video btw
@@3rdPedalMedia Yeah something always ends up happening and I end up missing. Then last week, I saw some of the other local meets that were happening cancelled, so I assumed the Nissan meet did too. Even got up in time and got ready for once. Then I saw the Millennium Jade GTR showed up. Rip me
Do you notice any difference in how the vehicle drives after the upgrades? Basically, does your butt feel that 4whp difference? I know you mentioned that you potentially felt a difference in the power band down lower.
Hey Kevin, can you Please install z1 3" Intakes & tell us if you believe they're better than the Admin 3" Intakes Please! Thank You 🤙🏾🔥💯🔰 Get the Carbon Fiber Ones Please, I'd love to see how they look seeing we have the same cars. This would help me tremendously.
Do you think CAI are worth it in your opinion? Long story short I need a retune and currently have Invidia Gemini FI HFC and am running drop in filters with the z1 silicone post maf intake tubes. I’m thinking about getting a their 2.5” CAI before retuning in a way to say fuck it and make it feel worth the retune. lol
@@3rdPedalMediaThanks fam, your opinion and advice are appreciated. I went ahead and moved forward with the 2.5” carbon fiber CAI. I was able to get it and the Z1 black anodized under-shroud for the price of the intake. Hope all is well your way, blessings. 🫡
@@topspeed6553 There was definitely a noticeable difference. A wee bit more noise and few more gains. It’s more noticeable on the top end. The price to gain ratio is a lot better with the silicone post maf intake hoses and drop in filters. If you care about looks and getting all the hp you can get cold air intakes is the way to go. I got retuned after installing the intakes. I felt like it definitely woke the car up, but I also went from a shitty tune to RSEnthalpy tune. So It’s really up to you if it’s worth it to you. I went with the Z1 carbon fiber cold air intake system since carbon is a good insulator and helps improve fuel efficiency and engine response, enhancing overall vehicle performance. Despite a higher initial cost, the investment pays off with increased airflow, power, and a unique engine sound.
I need to go back and get a dyno session done. When last I did it I was overpowering the stock clutch setup so it didn’t rly give me the best numbers. If you have complementary mods I’m sure it will help some.
Sry for the delay on this vid guys, pc kept crashing will have to put aside some dough to build a new one.
Did you make any more tq switching?
I'm glad someone impartial was able to finally make this comparison. As you said, hp is hard tp pull out of the NA vq especially after a certain point so 4 hp is promising, but thats within the margin of error really. You could put it on the same dyno tomorrow and be down 2-4 hp. But you nailed it -- you have to decide if the extra money is worth it to MAYBE see minimal gains.
If you like my impartiality you should check out my 3” admin install vid.
@@3rdPedalMedia I subscribed for support brother. I’ll check them all out!
@@SpeedCultureStudios thx sir.. i aspire to get to your lvl one day..
@@3rdPedalMedia well thanks! I’m still working hard myself, but I appreciate that!
@3rdPedalMedia did it make more torque?
i have ported upper and lower intakes, 2.5 inch longtube intakes, shorty headers, test pipe, manzo exhaust, i only got 332whp 271wtq, for me most noticeable difference is when you change your diff bushings and add subframe collars along with diff brace
Man I had those bushing in a box for over two years now. I need to get them in and the other parts
does the manzo exhaust sound raspy with the shorty headers, and test pipes? i'm running the same thing just missing the catback exhaust.
tuned on 93 ?? and did you run a bigger fuel pump w bigger injectors 🤔
tuned on 93? and did you run a pump w bigger injectors ?
@@-MoTioN yeah, it's a bit on the raspy side with a lot of drone; I have DC shorty headers, and the piping is slightly larger than Z1 shorty. Non-resonate test pipe.
Also, the negative thing I could tell you is the gaskets that came with it. I had to replace many times until I decided for copper one. Also, it got OK fitment compared to many cheap exhausts. Like the DNA, for example. Also, it's really heavier than oem
Well done. 3 inch intakes are duds UNLESS you do port your manifold and TB's matching the 3" intake's diameter. If you have a bottleneck in your intake system then 3" aftermarkets won't make a difference.
i know this is an old comment but i have to mention 2 things, you cannot Port your stock TB as they are electronically controlled and the valve itself needs to be replaced, using bigger TB like from the Maxima "76mm" or EPA TB will make driving worse as you will have a lot of rev hang and response will be worse, but you will gain a lot of torque, also with larger TB it will rev bit slower
The 3 in intakes are only as good as the rest of the breather mods. I had 3in admin tuning intakes +FI RHFC + ARK exhaust and only made 306 awhp @ RT Tuning
I swapped to ISR LTH and kept the ARK exhaust + admin intakes and made 346 awhp on the same dyno @ RT Tuning. If you had LTH you'd pick up a great deal thanks to the 3 in Intakes. At least that was my experience and I have a dyno to prove it.
Yea. I do feel like the stock headers are the bottle neck now.
You would have gotten those same numbers with headers and 2.5" takeda intakes. The manifolds/stock headers on the G are more restrictive than the intake system. With that being said, you probably would have seen a gain of 15 - 20 hp just replacing the HFCs with test pipes.
just ordered some catless downpipes and 3 inch long tube intakes, gonna get a tune for both, i got a 2012 g37 sedan (AWD), how much whp you think ill gain from those?
@@xero0pacity88 I'd guess around 320 to 330awhp. Depending on the dyno as well as exhaust you have after the cats.
@@coolsteff94 id hope so, i mean the awd models lose more at the wheels so catless downpipes and 3 inch long tube intakes with a street tune, you think id gain like at least 30-40 whp??
Sounds so good....like Arnold Schwarzenegger yelling into a small hallway.
😂😂 wth
“Get dowwwnn!” 😂
Great video. Yeah that's what my tuner said, just gaining 4-5 but! Your top end doesn't drop. 👍🏽
Thats crazy i made 330 with hfc full exhaust, ported manifold & stillen longtubes with gallery gaskets, gtr spark plugs qand water pump ect done before tune
Kevan, great video! I am really glad you've set out to answer these questions. I am definetly interested to see your ported lower and upper plenum results! I've personally been going back and forth on seeing if I wanted to commit to this mod or not. Sorry if I missed it, but I am curious of the following:
1. Did you use the same dyno for both the before and after dyno runs?
2. If the vehicle was tuned after you put on the Takeda 2.5" intakes, but before the "baseline dyno?"
Yes and yes. Now go sub and get caught up lol.
thanks for taking 1 for the team haha
Lol 🙏🏾 thx
your video was very helpful
That’s strange though Kevin, because I’ve seen setups like yours get dyno tuned by admin and get great numbers around the 325-340whp area !?
Admin has awesome products and tuned numbers. But the hypothesis is that most of the numbers are a result of bleeding edge tunes that are then backed off before customers receive their cars. In fact there are a larger number of failures as a result of these daring maps.
But please don’t take this comment as me throwing shame it’s just their style and ppl go for that. In fact pushing the limits drives any industries and there are more conservative tuners that push as much as they can while keeping longevity or dependability in mind.
@@3rdPedalMedia ahhh I understand your hypothesis. Didn’t ever see it in that form of way!
@@3rdPedalMedia well it might’ve been minimal power that you gained but at least you gained something out of em !
@@roadtoamilli1680 💯 it could of been a loss 😩
But the Butt dyno loves em. I fell like there is more power lower. I need to overlay the two dyno sessions.
@@3rdPedalMedia I think many depends also on motor condition
I don't want to make any kind of accusations but there are some posts online about Admi... Messing up the knock sensor
Where are the exhaust gases going to when you're on the Dyno? It looks like an enclosed space. Seems dangerous. I don't know that shop's setup though so it might be safe. All the Dyno shops I've been to have the exhaust close to a large door or have tubes that attach to the exhaust leading outdoors. Besides that, clean car and excited to see what else you have in store for it! 🤙
Thx man. The shop has some large fans at the back wall that pulls the exhaust out.
I know this is a little old but I have the takeda intakes that m merge into 1 filter and I want to replace that with 2 separate filters on the end of each intake like you said you did in this video but I don’t know which ones would fit. Do can you help me and send me a link to some that would fit? Thanks , great video btw
thanks man.. i believe i mentioned it in this video th-cam.com/video/gZ8PiLKnzfE/w-d-xo.html
You might not live in town anymore but I never knew you did. Somehow I don't think I've ever seen your car around town. Lol
I’m around the mid-TN area. Also check out the IG page nashville_nissan we meetup once a month.
@@3rdPedalMedia Yeah something always ends up happening and I end up missing. Then last week, I saw some of the other local meets that were happening cancelled, so I assumed the Nissan meet did too. Even got up in time and got ready for once. Then I saw the Millennium Jade GTR showed up. Rip me
Need test pipes for more power bro, get some resonated test pipes.
Yea. I just got tired of my ART pipes so dunno if I want to go back that route.
@@3rdPedalMediawhat about the art pipes did you not like? The smell or did you still have rasp?
Do you notice any difference in how the vehicle drives after the upgrades? Basically, does your butt feel that 4whp difference? I know you mentioned that you potentially felt a difference in the power band down lower.
Definitely a butt dyno effect. I like it, just sadfaced numbers.
Hey Kevin, can you Please install z1 3" Intakes & tell us if you believe they're better than the Admin 3" Intakes Please! Thank You 🤙🏾🔥💯🔰 Get the Carbon Fiber Ones Please, I'd love to see how they look seeing we have the same cars. This would help me tremendously.
I just subscribed! Trust there's plenty of more folks who'd love to hear, your opinion on z1 3" intakes vs Admin Intakes. Which is better?
I definitely would love to test other 3” CAI and compare the flow one day. Probably when I can make something off this TH-cam thing lol.
Which resonated HFCs are you running? one of the best sounding Gs ive ever heard.
Thx sir 🙏🏾
I’m using the Fast Intentions RHFC
sooo what your saying is that the whole post about takeda intakes and injens wasnt true then lol
Lol well that’s always up to interpretation and sales I guess.
from where did you get your rear diffuser?
AutoX
Were the takeda intakes short rams or long tubes?
Long tube with individual filters for each.
YO HOMIE where did you get that oil pressure gauge and the pillar
Here’s a playlist on the install. th-cam.com/play/PLRW6_ssvEuDk6JvjUw8qGezXSFKzIPVa3.html
Do you think CAI are worth it in your opinion? Long story short I need a retune and currently have Invidia Gemini FI HFC and am running drop in filters with the z1 silicone post maf intake tubes. I’m thinking about getting a their 2.5” CAI before retuning in a way to say fuck it and make it feel worth the retune. lol
Definitely CAI will make good gains over dropins.
CAI for NA applications are some of the biggest gains per $$.
@@3rdPedalMediaThanks fam, your opinion and advice are appreciated. I went ahead and moved forward with the 2.5” carbon fiber CAI. I was able to get it and the Z1 black anodized under-shroud for the price of the intake. Hope all is well your way, blessings. 🫡
@@wrkls_ np bro! dont forget to sub and like
@wrkls_ after going from silicone tube with drop in to the cold air intake what did you notice as changes and was it worth it?
@@topspeed6553 There was definitely a noticeable difference. A wee bit more noise and few more gains. It’s more noticeable on the top end. The price to gain ratio is a lot better with the silicone post maf intake hoses and drop in filters. If you care about looks and getting all the hp you can get cold air intakes is the way to go. I got retuned after installing the intakes. I felt like it definitely woke the car up, but I also went from a shitty tune to RSEnthalpy tune. So It’s really up to you if it’s worth it to you. I went with the Z1 carbon fiber cold air intake system since carbon is a good insulator and helps improve fuel efficiency and engine response, enhancing overall vehicle performance. Despite a higher initial cost, the investment pays off with increased airflow, power, and a unique engine sound.
Fuel issue for that rough peak.
Someone send me a link … I need one … can’t find anything other than 3” for g37 but i don’t need 2 intakes..
What the price on your exhaust and tuned setup?
I wheeled and dealed so it won’t be the same for you.
What 2.5 inch intakes would u recommend
For fitment. Z1 and Takata with dual filters
Tbh, wouldn’t u see more gains from catless set up?
Marginally. HFC are efficient bigger gains are on the intake side.
@@3rdPedalMedia interesting to see. Maybe a single exit could have added a hp or 2
That not only 4hp if you look at the lower powerband you can see a good increase in hp and tq down low
Good catch.
That's from first run being colder. Low end would be better with 2.5 (higher velocity)", but not by much.
Was you tuned with the 2.5 inch intakes?
I was.
Did you ever get a different set of intakes?
im sorry man, they weren't in stock at the time and now all my $$ is going to the 510 project
@@3rdPedalMedia Awesome I will make sure to follow, what brand were you gonna get to replace your admin intakes?
@@racova3663 it’s a company out of Florida.
Hey bro are 3 inch intake worth for these cars
I need to go back and get a dyno session done. When last I did it I was overpowering the stock clutch setup so it didn’t rly give me the best numbers.
If you have complementary mods I’m sure it will help some.
@@3rdPedalMedia thank u
So you made 2whp more? lol
lol something like that
How's the noise compared to old intake?
Honestly ever since the Motordyne install, intakes are soo hard to hear.
@@3rdPedalMedia good point. Forgot to consider that.
Dude give me your car
Ain’t nothing for free send best offer lol.
Get retuned by someone eles Family
Yea maybe. I do gotta get headers tho.
These #s are about right for the mods. No reason to waste money to get a retune when it might pickup another 2-4 hp with it.