Everyone Should Know How to Play 21
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At 5:04, the stat explanation claims that the stats are derived from composition dependent basic strategy, but they are actually derived from generic basic strategy. CDBS factors previously played cards, while GBS only considers what is currently facing up on the table.
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Generally the players cards are both face up since the casino doesn't want you to touch the cards at all.
This bothered me so much while watching lol
This is only if you're playing Shoe. Most single deck or double deck are actually dealt face down and while not forbidden, it is discouraged to say what you have. This is to minimize group strategy playing.
Came to say the same thing.
Playing with cards down will also minimize this interaction:
Random player to you, "If you didn't take that hit, then I would have gotten 21."
Your canned response to such nonsense, "If my aunt were a man, then she would be my uncle."
@@CodyKillebrewI wouldn't say it hinders group strategy. It hinders card counters whether they're part of a group or if they're playing solo. Card counting hinges on knowing what cards have been played, and counting single or double deck games is very easy. So not showing the table your cards only hurts card counters. Keep in mind though, you're not playing against the other players, You're playing against the house. So snuffing out card counters as another player is only helping the casino, not yourself.
Today I learned that Jason Murphy should never tip the dealer because he always loses when he tries to do that. And so does the dealer.
I used to work at a casino in Iowa, and from my experience with various Blackjack games (Standard, Single-Deck, Double-Deck, Spanish etc), I've never seen the dealers keep the player cards face-down like that, nor are players allowed to touch the cards like that. But like they said, every casino and even state regulations are different, so mileage may vary! Tangent aside, I love coming to see what esoteric thing they're learning today!
I've been around in MN/ND/SD casinos, and I've ran into a few where you touch your cards and scratch them against the table to hit. Pretty rare and there were other different rules I don't fully remember, but there's definitely some alternate ruleset around.
I believe because these are the ACTUAL rules, not modern casino rules
That split was BRUTAL
Brian ruined it by giving the 10 out of order. Jason should’ve gotten that 10 to make 21 on his double down hand.
The long pause before "oh it is"
@@Andrew38848 It was my belief that double-downs are always handled last due to the fact that you only get an extra card.
This game is one of the oldest memories I have of my grandma teaching me how to play cards. It helped me learn addition, and also earned me some lunch money from the other kids in my school. I got busted once with 50 bucks in dollar bills and qiuarters. RIP Grandma, thanks for the memories.
As someone who works in the industry and also helps write/revise rules. All rules operated by casinos are openly available for their respective region online in a document commonly called a master file, rules folder or gazette. Id advise most people be aware of the specific variations of the games in play at the casino they are going to before they arrive. Its very common for people to expect all casinos operate in the same fashion. They dont.
This is also not taking into account "american" and "european" style blackjack/21
Good catch!
Modern Rogue episodes explaining games are always interesting. Can y'all do an episode on chess?
Yes!
@@ModernRogue OMG, yes please! I do not understand chess strategy at all
And Go.
Can't wait to check that out
Your constant shuffling kept messing with my counts lol I love watching black jack and teing to keep counts.
Fun fact: Card counting in general actually results in a net profit for casinos, as many people get overconfident in their card counting without mastering optimal strategy first.
Yep! That’ll be in the next episode
@@ModernRogueAny clues as to when that'll be uploaded?
Also, we need another tea episode! Those are so much fun and I bought a tea set after watching!
Should someone tell Jason that Brian is a magician?
WHAT --jason
...Well I doubt that a magician and a deck of cards have anything in common... /s
LOL!
" I'm gonna put your head in a vice"
I had erased that scene from my mind until now. Damnit, Murphy.
As a casino dealer that was a nice basic cover of Black Jack. I can't wait to see what you have to say about card counting. I would love to give some insight on "game protection" from a casino's point of view to why there are the rules for most etiquette things in most casino games.
This was an awesome video. My best friend was a huge fan of Modern Rogue and taught me how to play blackjack when we were far too young. He just passed away in June in an accident and this made me remember those memories. Thank you for everything Brian and Jason❤
I'm terribly sorry for your loss. Here's to your friend! --jason
They should do one on the game cribbage
Can we all stop and appreciate the subtle deck stacking/forces that Brian pulled in this?
Love these games videos. Always was a fan of card games but didn't know much outside of Go Fish or a couple poker variations. A Modern Rogue "Cards Night" podcast or something like that would be awesome to watch
this was an awesome episode! Really great way to learn
I love this episode. It was highly informative and entertaining! I am looking forward to seeing more episodes like this. ❤🙂
A long long time ago, I entered my first casino in Vegas and decided to play 21. I knew the basic rules on how to play, but didn't understand how the table rules worked...I could not wrap my head around how everyone plays the dealer and the dealer was nice enough to try and give me some pointers, but oh boy...I knew I was out of my element and hopped off after like 5-10 hands and a guy across the table was actually mad at me.
Never played a table since and I can count on 1 hand how many times I've been in a casino since. I go in, spend 20 bucks on the slots, lose it in 15minutes and leave. Or I go in, win 50 bucks on the slots and leave in 45 seconds.
Thank you for this tutorial on proper 21 etiquette! I'm sure a young 21 year old will find this WAY more useful! I'll definitely come back here next time I decide to hit up a casino.
This was cool to learn, can't wait for the next one!
NO WAY! I found you guys in highschool anr learned how to do card tricks and actually played blackjack at lunch with my buddies! Going to binge all of your newest vids!
fantastic video!!!! cant wait for the card counting one :3
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Leaving for a trip to Las Vegas in a few days. This video came at just the right time
I just commented on the other video saying i don't know basic strategy, then i found this video on basic strategy.
Awesome.
I've also missed a lot of recent videos i didn't realize until today.
The physical etiquette and "protocol" beyond the foundational rules and mechanics of the game itself can be hard to find when trying to teach yourself how to play casino games before going to an actual real life casino in my experience. Love to see them take the time to point such things out as they go along.
Blackjack has been my favorite casino game for a long time. Its probably the only game I'd ever play if I wanted to gamble in a serious way. All the slot machines are rigged, and most other games involve a skewed risk/reward which favors the house.
Very helpful, thank you.
Bustin makes me feel gooood!!
BUSTIN BUSTIN BUSTIN BUSTIN BUSTIN BUSTIN BUSTIN BUSTIN
Never let the magician deal
You don’t have to hide your second card, it has no effect on any other players nor the dealer. They will have no more advantage from knowing..
The dealer follows an algorithm and the players can only control their hand against the dealer only!
Also I do think that hiding your second card is etiquette made by the Casino to give less information to every other player to make it harder for card counters!
@@ACcaptiveyeah, I think etiquette is the wrong word
The thing you just said is exactly the thing I was trying to explain. -B
the most insane gambling story from my mother playing blackjack she got two aces split got soft 15 and 16 doubled down on both of them had to borrow money from the guy sitting next to her to cover the double double down and won both hands!
From a Casino dealer, first off loved the episode please keep it up! Also thank you so much for bringing up tipping and tip betting it means alot (Also Jason any dealer would be lucky to have you at their table, consistently tip betting and also adding to the tip bet when splitting you are awesome)!
A couple of points that are generally non casino exclusive
Like you mentioned we are essentially "robots" in terms of running the games, but counter to how Brian phrased it we want you to win! (Unless your a dick) Casinos make much more money and way quicker money off of the slots, with table games now generally being a way to get people in the doors who don't like slots, so as far as we are concerned our employers (though we thank them for employing us) can get more money from those, we want you to win and even win big enough to be day/week/year/life changing!
Also on the point of the 16 against the 10 whether or not to hit is really on your thinking (sorta half glass full or half empty sort of thing). Yes if you hit you are hoping for that one last chance to get a low card and beat the dealer, but if you don't hit you are betting that the dealer has a bad hand and has to hit then bust. In fact generally I notice that most people will not hit 16 as it can be seen as "taking a hand busting card" from the dealer if they do in fact have a bad hand
Overall a great video and can't wait to see more from you guys! Please play responsibly and best of luck!
(P.S. The casinos are really going to love you putting out a video about card counting, as I once heard a quote that all the resources about it only allow the casino to win more because people come in thinking they can count when they can't)
love this game
The last time I was in Vegas, we played Black Jack at the NY casino. I had already burned through my playing cash, and my friend was still in. His last 3 hands of the night tied with the dealer in a row with Black Jack. It was really good luck to get Black Jack 3x in a row, but for the deal to also get it in a row sucked. We called it a night after that.
Great game to learn
i would love to see you guys learn Big Two (capsa) if you don't know it already!
Oh My Goodness!! This is how I've always played Blackjack! Granted, it was always virtual Blackjack, but still!
When I was but a wee sprogling, I used to play fake blackjack on a game pack card Hoyle. I broke the game playing blackjack with the 7/17 thing
Every time I hit on 12 I get a 10 . By this point it's feeling like spite ;)
As an extra old gen x type My parents taught me black jack when I was like 8 years old. Our family was really into card games like 21 and simple poker and rummy and the like.
Didn't seen the video yet but I learned 21 with my grandfather and we played it over and over again the day he taught me.
You guys should get Steven Bridges on for an episode of Card Counting. There's nothing more Modern Rogueish than taking away a casino's advantage :P
After the card counting episode, will we get a episode on desert land navigation?
Much like the rubik's cube, I never learned blackjack intuitively. This talk about, if the dealer shows this, then we must assume this, and thus play like this, is all over my head. I drilled basic strategy, so I'd never need to think for myself. Aside from the top 5 variations that change plays depending on the true count.
Most of the casinos I have played at will deal both cards face-up to the players. Only the dealer shows a face down card.
My grandfather-in-law used to manage a casino and did so for 30+yrs. This was his advise for gambling:
1st- don't do it. The house always wins
2nd- If you do, go in with a set amount to gamble with, separate any winnings over your bet and never bet with them. Once you've spent your starting amount, stop. This way you never spend more than what you sought out to spend.
For example: Start with $100 pool
Bet 10 Lose. 90 Pool
Bet 10 win 25. 90 pool 15 winning
Bet 20 lose. 70 pool 15 winning
Ect.
at worst you only spent 86 of your 100 pool.
ive seen people play digital blackjack before and sometimes theres something called a push when the dealer and player have the same value, is that just a house rule or am i thinking of a different game?
20:48 Jokes on you Brian Brushwood, I don't need to ask my parents who Austin Powers is.
Craps Next! I love playing craps, but only know a little bit
I’m not a huge gambler but Blackjack is one game I’ll play at casinos because it’s fun, you have certain control over the cards and it’s simple. But I do love poker much more.
The way I end up winning a lot is when the dealer busts over and over again many times in a row, which sounds like something that might never happen lol. You need to know when to leave and play something else or just leave completely. Also shouldn't the players cards all be facing up?
Baccarat is the highest odds (best change of you winning) in the Casio, followed by craps then blackjack. That’s how it is here in aus anyway
saw brian at defcon just out of the blue, was insane
I'm struggling to find what exact deck of cards this is. It's not a Theory11 deck, is it?
That would be a good video, what might it take to create my own VPN.
My calculus class in hs had extra credit thing where we had to explain how card counting worked, I can accurately card count up to a 6 deck dealers deck in 21
Counting cards does not ensure anything.
Please do craps next!!!!🎉
That’s on the list!
Omg very clever sponsor read. You write that yourself?
I need this video
Brian needs to take it easy on the cookies. He is doing the Reverse Penn Jillette
I didn't know you could place a bet for the dealer. Is it bad etiquette if I just give them 10 or 20 bucks and tell them "This is for you, thank you and have a good evening"? I'll go to a casino once in a blue moon. Even If I had a bad streak, I'll still save 10 bucks in chips to give it to them. Am I doing it right or is it frowned upon?
That Arrested Development reference 😅😂
Just watching some old videos with Jason in it cause of the recent debacle. Anyways, keep moving.
Most games in the casino work on odds. There is one game that is different - Bingo.
Payouts in Bingo are fixed, so your odds depend upon how many people are playing. The fewer the higher your odds.
So buy a condo outside a casino in Minnesota, and a snow mobile, and wait for a blizzard.
I know a lot of bingo nowadays is not fixed payout, but based on a percentage of money earned from people playing. So the casino takes their percent (i.e. 20%), then the payout is whatever is left. So less people means lower payout
So is it a worldwide deal or not?
I love playing 21
I have never played a game of blackjack while hiding my cards, always all cards are in the open for all players.
That's likely a six-deck shoe, or worse yet: an auto-shuffler. This is pretty close to what one-deck or two deck blackjack looks like.
I guess it’s different for people when my friends and I play we always have one card hidden for only us to see
1 - i hope they mention the basic strategy song
2 - i hope brian sings it.....
3 - i hope brian sings it on 6th street while pissed drunk!
Wait what was the story Brian had about the guy at a poker or blackjack table that kept going "Whoop, there it is!" on winning hands? Or am I just losing my mind.
its_time_to_stop.mpeg
It’s… adjacent to that story
@@ModernRogueVegas adjacent?
This will make for a fun series should they continue it. Also if they can swing it, try to get a professional dealer for some of the other table games that would be found in a casino.
Are those theory 11 cards?
Wait, you're saying most casinos sell you the basic strategy chart?! Do they actually let you use it at the table? If so I assume, the odds are still heavily in their favor even if everyone was following the chart without having to memorize it, and they probably overprice it and wouldn't allow any different copies of the chart besides the specific one they sell. I assume each casino would have their own specifically branded version of the chart.
Yep. Lots of times you can just ask the dealer or another player “what the book says to do” since it’s well-known info
The strategy is the same and they come out ahead no matter what, so they wouldn't care what chart you use. More like a souvenir than a cheat code.
In the case of a casino, going with the points is very very bad if you actually start getting the edge
Glad to see an "educational" video.
Those quotes… what’s that about?
I'm too used to seeing blackjack blackjack played where the players are dealt both cards face up.
I feel like, especially for teaching, dealing the player hand face up would have been better :D
"Oh it is... WELCOME TO VEGAS MFER!" 😆
All the casinos I have been to show the player cards face up
I'm assuming the odds are even worse, but how well does this hold up in multi-deck blackjack?
It's not worse if you're not card counting. The odds of getting a 10 are even higher over let's say an 8. So basic strategy translates perfectly to more decks.
It depends on how deep they let you play and what the running count is. We get into that next episode
15:32 lol
I have never seen a casino play any cards face down, it's also a way for the dealer to help you by giving you your count.
I’ve seen an uptick in Vegas spots leaning into 2-deck 21. I suspect they’re kinda double-daring you to try to card count, and offsetting the advantage with worse payouts on fringe bets (like insurance and blackjack)
@@ModernRogue haha I mean that they can help you quickly establish the total number you have on the face value of your cards, as drinking and long days can hinder your math skills and they need to keep the game moving. Also on that note I usually see 6 decks being used on most blackjack tables. But 2 on the high buy in tables
How to play all card games series please guys
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This from the man who plays a-hole black jack.
ONE MORE WAGER!!! 🥴
When i make a new character in dnd, its gonna be a Arcane trickster rogue named Brian Brushwood, or a bard thief multiclass named Jason Murphy that can speak in tongues
What sort of backroom blackjack are you playing??? Everytime everywhere at every casino I have been to, the players cards are dealt face up and everyone sees everyones cards. The only face down card is the 1 dealer card.
Also when you double down, you put your chips behind the current bet. When you put them next to eachother it's indicating a split.
Oooooooooh, someone hasn’t been to Vegas in a biiiiiiit…. (Yes, the six deck shoe used to be king, but now we live in the land of the auto-shuffler and the skewed rules of the two deck game!)
@@ModernRogue that would mean that being in the last position is even more important for card counters. Does that mean they watch that left seat harder from the eyes in the sky? I would love a 2 deck shoe!
Wait can we all talk about how Jason has the word "cum" tattooed on his arm. "its cool cause its Latin" xD
Do you guys have a similar video to poker?
Coming up!
Request: Could you also do an explanation of the game President? I'd love to know some basic strategies for it.
Man, I was hoping from an explanation of "ASSHOLE BLACKJACK" from Brian.
Instead I got what happens when an asshole plays blackjack.
Loved it.
We are planning a third part of just that topic 😅
I need a moderr rogue for like playing my $20k of Misc debt, or like how to be happy in my marriage/career after 15 years. A modern rogue on suicide etiquette...
Most casino’s I’ve been to play both player cards face up.
"Take a look at your hand. If you have busted, it's kinda... you _could_ keep it a secret, but as a courtesy to your neighbors, you might want to show what you got."
These jokes write themselves, folks. 😏😆
Hahhahhaa
Blackjack, 21 is the name for kid friendly versions which leads them to gambling when their older anyways.
Could use a few ping pong smoke balls to block out the casino cameras and just snatch some chips without the casino knowing unless the chips are rfid chipped.
Basically the only way to beat the casino because they'll pull you because
*"you're playing too good for our establishment."*
In other words blaming you for card counting.
*The player doesn't have cards facing down ever.*
Do texas hold em
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This isn’t relevant, but I did the simplest card trick in the book where you flip the deck upside down and lay the first card face down to a friend and then you show them the card they chose. He couldn’t figure it out even when I tried to explain it. I found that hilarious. How dumb can one be?
You didn’t explain insurance when the dealer can potentially have a blackjack.
I've never known a casino that doesn't deal player cards face up
I wish I could afford to play the table’s because gambling is no fun starting off poor and leaving even poorer after a few bad hands.