That’s funny. I just commented on your 1 year old video where my battery got stuck. Love the 160 too. Riding with my son is awesome. You’re always welcome to visit Lake George and ride with us. Search for the videos.
Agreed, the 160 Camber Pro is definitely the G-O! However, I suggest you look at 26" Flow for the rear. Lift have taken the best of the Glide and Carve wings to form a new wing that provides pitch stability of the Glide and the turning capabilities of the Carve. Think of it as the Carve with the 3" extender. Lift have really dropped the price on both the smaller Glide wings, so I guess, possibly, that the Flow may make the Glide somewhat redundant in time. Also, with this wing you can go one size smaller, which will, to an extent, compensate for the drag of the Camber pro.
Have you tried the high aspect ratio wings and do they compare to the camber pro? I'm asking because I am new to efoil but I'm windsurf foiling a lot and have all high aspect ratio wings (650, 950, 1100 and 1350cm2)
Looks very similar to the Flow wings on the Flite, which are my favorite. They rip turns, breaching etc. 160in2 is 1000cm2 roughly. I’m riding the 900cm2 flow. Does lift make a 140in2 cambered wing? That would be closest to what I’m riding on the Flite
### Response to @_JustinChait_: Lift does not currently offer a 140in² (approximately 900cm²) cambered wing. The available options include: - **160 Camber Pro Wing**: This is a great option for freestyle carving and has become a favorite for its performance. - **Other Sizes**: While there is no exact match to the 900cm² Flow wing from Fliteboard, Lift offers a variety of wings catering to different riding styles and preferences. If you are looking for something closer to the 900cm² Flow wing in terms of performance and feel, the 160 Camber Pro Wing might be a good fit to try out, as it has received positive feedback for its versatility and agility in turns and breaching. Here's a comprehensive list of the front wings available from Lift: ### High Aspect Wings 1. **70 High Aspect**: Efficient and fast. 2. **90 High Aspect**: Balanced for speed. 3. **110 High Aspect X**: Advanced performance. 4. **120 High Aspect**: Versatile, for various conditions. 5. **150 High Aspect X**: High-performance wing. 6. **180 High Aspect X**: Ideal for speed enthusiasts. 7. **200 High Aspect**: Large and stable. 8. **220 High Aspect X**: For extreme performance. ### Surf Series Front Wings 1. **60 Surf V2**: Versatile mid-aspect wing. 2. **72 LCX**: Balanced for efficiency. 3. **100 Surf V2**: Designed for stability. 4. **150 Surf V2**: Great for versatile performance. 5. **200 Surf V2**: Ideal for larger riders. ### Camber Pro Wings 1. **160 Camber Pro**: Smooth, balanced wing. 2. **210 Camber Pro**: Larger, stable wing. ### Florence Collection 1. **Florence 130 X**: High-performance wing for downwind exploration. 2. **Florence 110 X**: Optimized for speed and agility. For more details and specifications, you can visit the [Lift Foils Wings page](liftfoils.com/wings). **This response was provided by the Verdant Ride GPT: chatgpt.com/g/g-fwDABnTTY-verdant-ride-efoil-news-reviews-advice 🤖**
Right now I’m running the 4’2 with a 160 camber pro and and 36 glide. Do you feel that the 150 V2 surf is substantially easier to initiate a carve than the 160 camber pro? I just watched a video from a year ago of yours where you said you have to really put your weight into the 160 camber pro to get it to carve. I feel the same way. I haven’t yet tried the 150 or 100 surf. Im considering buying one of them. Is the 150 surf similar to the 160 camber? If so I would just buy the 100 surf. Thanks!
The 150 surf is stable and more maneuverable than the 200 by quite a bit. I rode it as my primary wing for most of my second season. The 100 Surf is wicked and wild and the easiest to whip into a turn while still maintaining a relatively solid carve. The 160 Camber Pro on the other hand is smooooooooth! Now that I've got a feel for it, I'd say that it actually holds a deep carve better at high speeds than all the other wings I've tried. I think I'm getting higher G-forces with the 160 Camber Pro than all other wings because it holds a lot better a higher speeds. It isn't as responsive as the 100 Surf so it isn't as good at quick directional changes but when just want to take big-ass S-turns at high speeds, it's a ton of fun once you master it. If you don't have a Surf wing and think you wield the 100 Surf, I'd go with it. It pairs really well with the Pro boards. Otherwise the 150 Surf is a decent compromise. I think everyone should have at least one Camber and one Surf in their quiver because they give the board such a different personality that it is like having two completely different boards.
@@VerdantRide thanks for the detailed response. By the way I saw in one of your older videos that you went to Puerto Rico with Barbie and some friends. I ride with her on the weekend in Sarasota FL. I bought my 4’2 and 160 camber pro after she let me try hers out. Small world!
That’s funny. I just commented on your 1 year old video where my battery got stuck. Love the 160 too. Riding with my son is awesome. You’re always welcome to visit Lake George and ride with us. Search for the videos.
Agreed, the 160 Camber Pro is definitely the G-O! However, I suggest you look at 26" Flow for the rear. Lift have taken the best of the Glide and Carve wings to form a new wing that provides pitch stability of the Glide and the turning capabilities of the Carve. Think of it as the Carve with the 3" extender. Lift have really dropped the price on both the smaller Glide wings, so I guess, possibly, that the Flow may make the Glide somewhat redundant in time. Also, with this wing you can go one size smaller, which will, to an extent, compensate for the drag of the Camber pro.
I'll pop my 26 Flow on today and give it whack with the 160 Camber Pro. Thanks for the suggestion.
Have you tried the high aspect ratio wings and do they compare to the camber pro?
I'm asking because I am new to efoil but I'm windsurf foiling a lot and have all high aspect ratio wings (650, 950, 1100 and 1350cm2)
I've got very limited experience with HA. More for wave riding than carving IMO.
Looks very similar to the Flow wings on the Flite, which are my favorite. They rip turns, breaching etc. 160in2 is 1000cm2 roughly. I’m riding the 900cm2 flow. Does lift make a 140in2 cambered wing? That would be closest to what I’m riding on the Flite
Maybe the 150V2 surf wing
### Response to @_JustinChait_:
Lift does not currently offer a 140in² (approximately 900cm²) cambered wing. The available options include:
- **160 Camber Pro Wing**: This is a great option for freestyle carving and has become a favorite for its performance.
- **Other Sizes**: While there is no exact match to the 900cm² Flow wing from Fliteboard, Lift offers a variety of wings catering to different riding styles and preferences.
If you are looking for something closer to the 900cm² Flow wing in terms of performance and feel, the 160 Camber Pro Wing might be a good fit to try out, as it has received positive feedback for its versatility and agility in turns and breaching.
Here's a comprehensive list of the front wings available from Lift:
### High Aspect Wings
1. **70 High Aspect**: Efficient and fast.
2. **90 High Aspect**: Balanced for speed.
3. **110 High Aspect X**: Advanced performance.
4. **120 High Aspect**: Versatile, for various conditions.
5. **150 High Aspect X**: High-performance wing.
6. **180 High Aspect X**: Ideal for speed enthusiasts.
7. **200 High Aspect**: Large and stable.
8. **220 High Aspect X**: For extreme performance.
### Surf Series Front Wings
1. **60 Surf V2**: Versatile mid-aspect wing.
2. **72 LCX**: Balanced for efficiency.
3. **100 Surf V2**: Designed for stability.
4. **150 Surf V2**: Great for versatile performance.
5. **200 Surf V2**: Ideal for larger riders.
### Camber Pro Wings
1. **160 Camber Pro**: Smooth, balanced wing.
2. **210 Camber Pro**: Larger, stable wing.
### Florence Collection
1. **Florence 130 X**: High-performance wing for downwind exploration.
2. **Florence 110 X**: Optimized for speed and agility.
For more details and specifications, you can visit the [Lift Foils Wings page](liftfoils.com/wings).
**This response was provided by the Verdant Ride GPT: chatgpt.com/g/g-fwDABnTTY-verdant-ride-efoil-news-reviews-advice 🤖**
Right now I’m running the 4’2 with a 160 camber pro and and 36 glide. Do you feel that the 150 V2 surf is substantially easier to initiate a carve than the 160 camber pro? I just watched a video from a year ago of yours where you said you have to really put your weight into the 160 camber pro to get it to carve. I feel the same way. I haven’t yet tried the 150 or 100 surf. Im considering buying one of them. Is the 150 surf similar to the 160 camber? If so I would just buy the 100 surf. Thanks!
The 150 surf is stable and more maneuverable than the 200 by quite a bit. I rode it as my primary wing for most of my second season. The 100 Surf is wicked and wild and the easiest to whip into a turn while still maintaining a relatively solid carve. The 160 Camber Pro on the other hand is smooooooooth! Now that I've got a feel for it, I'd say that it actually holds a deep carve better at high speeds than all the other wings I've tried. I think I'm getting higher G-forces with the 160 Camber Pro than all other wings because it holds a lot better a higher speeds. It isn't as responsive as the 100 Surf so it isn't as good at quick directional changes but when just want to take big-ass S-turns at high speeds, it's a ton of fun once you master it.
If you don't have a Surf wing and think you wield the 100 Surf, I'd go with it. It pairs really well with the Pro boards. Otherwise the 150 Surf is a decent compromise. I think everyone should have at least one Camber and one Surf in their quiver because they give the board such a different personality that it is like having two completely different boards.
@@VerdantRide thanks for the detailed response. By the way I saw in one of your older videos that you went to Puerto Rico with Barbie and some friends. I ride with her on the weekend in Sarasota FL. I bought my 4’2 and 160 camber pro after she let me try hers out. Small world!
@@NeilSeaver Yeah! Barbie is Bad-Ass. I got invited by her sister who runs Zenwatersports. We had a blast!