Wow! I just love seeing innovation and design like this. And the final assembly works perfectly too! Awesome work from Boris :-) The links to the .stl and CAD drawing are in the description :-)
Is the design very innovative when it's just a 3D printed version of what Lockpickinglawyer and BosnianBill made? I feel the innovation was theirs and Boris just put the design into CAD which is useful I guess, but might make sparrows less likely to pick up the making of the LPL/BB design and manufacture it
Myranda Rose well I can see your point, but I have to politely disagree with it. I LOVE the pick that LPL and B.B. made, but it is in no way innovative and is itself derivative of the many other DD picks that have come before it, including notable examples from Huxley Pig etc. The innovation shown by Boris is in making a working design out of a printed material that assemble with commonly available parts. As for impact on Sparrows? None I’d say. The number of people that would go through the challenging process of printing and making one as well as souring the ejector pins and then having the skill to reduce it down to a picking tip? I’d say we are talking about 10’s of people and those people would most likely also buy the Sparrows version of the pick if it ever comes out. I know I will be.
& What of course wasnt explained and what everybody was waiting for is where you get picking tips Just give me one of them wired pick tips and I'll tension any front tensioned DD's with whattttteverrrrr 16 minutes and not 5 seconds spent to xplain that, oh dear god
Well, I’m really holding out to see if Sparrows make the one you and Bill put together, but while we wait, a project like this might keep one or two people going. Any news on the DD pick?
This video covers the internals and how to pick these very well! I've watched a lot of these locks get opened in the last couple years but this video answered a lot of questions I still had, thank you!
That is excellent. It is so accessible, you don't have to wait to see if a company will take it to production, you can print it off yourself if you have the gear. This 3d locksport stuff has evolved immensely,it's great. Thanks to you both for sharing this great bit of kit, look forward to seeing the changes you came up with, cheers
This is wonderful. I too have been searching for an “affordable” disc detainer pick tool. This may be the breakthrough we been looking for. I am so excited about this. Thanks for sharing this.
That was very well done & took a ton of time making. That could be our answer that we've been waiting for. Like to see your mod's when your done with it. Thanks for sharing this Ash.
Absolutely fantastic it’s just so cool to see people making & improving lock tools. Great work from Boris. I look forward to seeing your modifications. Have a great weekend. 👍
I like it, a thought occurs regarding the the tensioning tip: if you could get a wider OD bit of stainless tube, you could grind that into a tensioning fork...
Great video and an excellent explanation of how disc detainer locks and picks work. I’m new at picking and I’ve never seen such a great video on disc detainer locks. Keep up the good work
"The tool Bosnian Bill and I didn't make." LPL would say. Every time LPL picks a disk detainer lock, we wait for those infamous words. It does look like a good alternative.
Thank you for the cool presentation of Boris' disc detainer tool LN buddy :). Of course I had already seen his videos and building process, but it's great to see how nice it works under your testing too :). You are right, the tensioning tip looks a bit instable and another enhancement I would do is coloring the depth mark in different colors, so that you know on which disk you are. Thanks a lot for sharing and have a great week :) 😊👋🦊.
Good use of the 3D printer. I have seen a few things that make me want to try 3D printing. Maybe I'll get one (and likely have to replace this old computer to get it to work, too) someday when I have time and desire to learn something new. I think your modification will work as long as tension is not too great when picking. The picking of the clear lock was a nice bonus. I have watched Bill and LPL pick a lot of these locks, but never saw what was going on inside. Thanks again for the great videos!
I LIKE THE BIG HANDLE AND OTHER FEATURES THAT THE SPARROW DESIGNED BOSNIAN BILL AND THE LOCKPICKINGLAWYER ARE LACKING, ITS A GREAT TOOL BUT I LIKE DESIGN YOU HAVE MADE IT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE EASIER TO USE.
Great, now we will have three thousand different interchangeable disc detainer picks, in various lengths with various tips shapes, to buy for our collections! Of course there will have to be an equal array of tension upgrades as well. Im gonna need a second mortgage....
Love it. The modifications your thinking about making I do believe will work. I am a little worried though that the pick itself will eventually slip with only the one grub screw tensioning it from only one side. I also think it would look great if the edges on the tentioner were rounded off a little. Of course I'm gonna have to print one now. I have 3 and 5mm nuts and screws, I'm not sure witch ones were used but can you tell me were I can get the tips and let me know what size the hollow tube is that was used? Thank you my friend for sharing this with us.
Hey Bobby. Here is a link to borris's video where he talks about making it including what nuts ect. Its linked over at the download page at thing-a-verse.
But yeah if the link doesnt show up just go to thing-a-verse and click on the youtube link. I didnt get thr chance to watch the whole thing yet but the nut on the grub screw on back is m4.
@@Phred_Phlintstoner thanks brother. Yeah I started to watch his video. I have to go back and watch the whole thing. I have two machines working on it now in silver and bronze. I also think I have the 4mm nuts and screws leftover from building 6 machines. I have lots of extra nuts and bolts. If not I now I can get them. Im pretty sure I also have the wiper blades and hollow tubing. What I need is the pick tips. I've seen them before but I don't know where there getting them.
Bosnian bill and lock picking lawyer made a disc detainer pick out of stainless steel it's real nice. Its five different vids I think. It starts on vid 825 I believe
Very cool thank you for showcasing Boris’s work. Please pass on my appreciation hours of design work then listening to that machine cranking it out. I used to deliver paper and tape to stratasys I was curious oh you manufacture 3D printers what’s that?
Thank you for showing this is such depth - really good thoughts! 3-D printing used how it should be. :D Question: extended the tension forks is a good idea to get into deeper keyways, but who does the tube have to be extended?
Looking very impressive------ looking forward to seeing the clever fu#'#*s in locksport do to improve/adapt this-- looking for more genius within 6 months to a year
Very nice review. I like seeing how it interacted with the "see through" lock. Do you own a 3D printer? Just wondering if you where going to try your updates your self?
I know this is a old video but, does anyone know how far out, the tensioning forks should stick out from that barrel? I realize it could be different on different locks but what would be a good distance to start with? Anyone still around? LOL @Lock Noob
Noob, the 3D pic that you have looks like an exact copy all of the one that LPL and Bosnian Bill designed out of brass and stainless steel. Your comment about the first disc always being the one that tensions the lock is not entirely accurate Kryptonite has came out with a disk detainer lock that tensions off any random disc in the stack please check it out.
That is excellent. It is so accessible, you don't have to wait to see if a company will take it to production, you can print it off yourself if you have the gear. This 3d locksport stuff has evolved immensely,it's great. Thanks to you both for sharing this great bit of kit, look forward to seeing the changes you came up with, cheers
![[823] Disc Detainer Pick Build (Part 1) - Featuring BosnianBill](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/q1rYhO--TDA/mqdefault.jpg)
Wow! I just love seeing innovation and design like this. And the final assembly works perfectly too! Awesome work from Boris :-) The links to the .stl and CAD drawing are in the description :-)
That is a good lockpick the problem with the cheap picks is you keep having to use the alienkeys. 😀😀😀as allways have a nice weekend
Is the design very innovative when it's just a 3D printed version of what Lockpickinglawyer and BosnianBill made? I feel the innovation was theirs and Boris just put the design into CAD which is useful I guess, but might make sparrows less likely to pick up the making of the LPL/BB design and manufacture it
Myranda Rose well I can see your point, but I have to politely disagree with it. I LOVE the pick that LPL and B.B. made, but it is in no way innovative and is itself derivative of the many other DD picks that have come before it, including notable examples from Huxley Pig etc. The innovation shown by Boris is in making a working design out of a printed material that assemble with commonly available parts. As for impact on Sparrows? None I’d say. The number of people that would go through the challenging process of printing and making one as well as souring the ejector pins and then having the skill to reduce it down to a picking tip? I’d say we are talking about 10’s of people and those people would most likely also buy the Sparrows version of the pick if it ever comes out. I know I will be.
& What of course wasnt explained and what everybody was waiting for is where you get picking tips
Just give me one of them wired pick tips and I'll tension any front tensioned DD's with whattttteverrrrr
16 minutes and not 5 seconds spent to xplain that, oh dear god
miniwaern 14:28 it’s an ejector pin. It’s ok to ask nicely you know
Interesting... thanks for sharing. 👍
Well, I’m really holding out to see if Sparrows make the one you and Bill put together, but while we wait, a project like this might keep one or two people going. Any news on the DD pick?
My main arsenal
This video covers the internals and how to pick these very well! I've watched a lot of these locks get opened in the last couple years but this video answered a lot of questions I still had, thank you!
Thanks 🙏
That is excellent. It is so accessible, you don't have to wait to see if a company will take it to production, you can print it off yourself if you have the gear. This 3d locksport stuff has evolved immensely,it's great. Thanks to you both for sharing this great bit of kit, look forward to seeing the changes you came up with, cheers
Fantastic work by Boris. Already an excellent design that is versatile enough to be customisable as well! 👍
Boris did really great :-)
Wow very loudly you can hear me shout all around the world And very generous of Boris for sharing the plans👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I actually think I heard you :-)
@@LockNoob Well if you did did you write my address down as I am 60 in August hint hint and more hints L.O.L.
That is a work of art. I wish I had a 3d printer. But I think its time to get one. Hats off.
It’s a fun thing to have, but it’s only worth it if it’s going to get genuine usage :-)
@@LockNoob I have other hobbies too. But lock sport has become #1
This is wonderful. I too have been searching for an “affordable” disc detainer pick tool. This may be the breakthrough we been looking for. I am so excited about this. Thanks for sharing this.
thanks for watching, Albert :-)
Great video. I really enjoyed the 3D printed DD pick from Boris.
Thanks :-)
That was very well done & took a ton of time making. That could be our answer that we've been waiting for. Like to see your mod's when your done with it. Thanks for sharing this Ash.
When I get some free time, I’ll definitely put my ideas into action :-)
I love this community and the types of talent that come with it
Me too!
Thank you Lock Noob
Thanks Jim :-)
Awesome...nice to see some different options..very cool very cool..had to say it twice. Have a great day thanks for showing.
If it’s worth saying, say it twice, lol :-)
Absolutely fantastic it’s just so cool to see people making & improving lock tools. Great work from Boris. I look forward to seeing your modifications. Have a great weekend. 👍
Thanks Daz, you too :-)
Amazing!! Can’t wait to see what modifications that you both come up with!! Happy pickings!!
Thanks :-) You too :-)
Just the 3D printed type of tool I had hoped for. Thanks, master Noob!
Thank Boris :-)
I like it, a thought occurs regarding the the tensioning tip: if you could get a wider OD bit of stainless tube, you could grind that into a tensioning fork...
not a bad idea :-)
Wow, that is fantastic!
It’s great :-)
That's actually pretty awesome.And - It works! - While still being quite adaptable.
I really like it :-)
Great video and an excellent explanation of how disc detainer locks and picks work. I’m new at picking and I’ve never seen such a great video on disc detainer locks. Keep up the good work
Thank you for the kind feedback :-)
Lock Noob = Lock genuine engineer... Brilliant!!
:-)
This is really great, I am looking, and have been looking for a disk detainer pick for a long time now.
Thanks 🙏
Really cool tool! Hopefully this is the gateway to more access to these picks :-) thank you for doing such an in-depth analysis
Thank you for watching:-)
There (bb&lpl) are working with sparrows but they said to wait a few months before we see it or ask about it.
That was months ago.
Yeah they said to wait months to even ask sparrows I'm sure production will take even longer
I REALLY hope we see them made :-)
I made one this weekend and it did not need to be bigger than a cigarette. I've only been picking for like a week. Maybe I'll pass it around.
Cool
"The tool Bosnian Bill and I didn't make." LPL would say. Every time LPL picks a disk detainer lock, we wait for those infamous words. It does look like a good alternative.
Excellent vid and what a great piece of kit :-)
It is indeed :-)
Very cool to be designed and made. Good explanation and mod idea.✌😎
Thanks :-)
very cool tool thanks for sharing
Thank Iggy :-)
Thank you for the cool presentation of Boris' disc detainer tool LN buddy :). Of course I had already seen his videos and building process, but it's great to see how nice it works under your testing too :). You are right, the tensioning tip looks a bit instable and another enhancement I would do is coloring the depth mark in different colors, so that you know on which disk you are. Thanks a lot for sharing and have a great week :) 😊👋🦊.
Thanks for watching foxy, I like the different colour marker idea! :-)
Good use of the 3D printer. I have seen a few things that make me want to try 3D printing. Maybe I'll get one (and likely have to replace this old computer to get it to work, too) someday when I have time and desire to learn something new. I think your modification will work as long as tension is not too great when picking. The picking of the clear lock was a nice bonus. I have watched Bill and LPL pick a lot of these locks, but never saw what was going on inside. Thanks again for the great videos!
thank you for watching :-)
Great piece of kit from Boris.
I haven't seen him around recently, hope all is ok.
Great video and demo, LN, as usual.
I think he’s fine and clearly putting his time to good use! :-)
Love this idea. That is really great. 👍👍👍👍🧡
Yes, it’s really cool :-)
So cool! Love it :)
It’s very cool :-)
I LIKE THE BIG HANDLE AND OTHER FEATURES THAT THE SPARROW DESIGNED BOSNIAN BILL AND THE LOCKPICKINGLAWYER ARE LACKING, ITS A GREAT TOOL BUT I LIKE DESIGN YOU HAVE MADE IT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE EASIER TO USE.
Very clever...
I definitely would buy the modified and finished unit.
I will have to keep my eyes open for the finished product! 👍
It’s a very good job by Boris :-)
That is some fantastic design & engineering work by Boris. I'll have to look for ejector pins.
It’s a great design happy shopping :-)
Great idea ..would like to see the modification..😎
When I have some free time, it’s on the top of my priority list :-)
Great, now we will have three thousand different interchangeable disc detainer picks, in various lengths with various tips shapes, to buy for our collections! Of course there will have to be an equal array of tension upgrades as well.
Im gonna need a second mortgage....
It can get to be an expensive hobby! :-)
@@LockNoob Indeed, it is proving to be so.
Very clever. I suspect the thicker handle makes it easier to use.
It does, I like the way it feels :-)
Bosnianbill and Lockpickinglawyer are working on one :D
Oh, I know and it does look great! :-)
Love it. The modifications your thinking about making I do believe will work. I am a little worried though that the pick itself will eventually slip with only the one grub screw tensioning it from only one side. I also think it would look great if the edges on the tentioner were rounded off a little. Of course I'm gonna have to print one now. I have 3 and 5mm nuts and screws, I'm not sure witch ones were used but can you tell me were I can get the tips and let me know what size the hollow tube is that was used? Thank you my friend for sharing this with us.
Hey Bobby. Here is a link to borris's video where he talks about making it including what nuts ect. Its linked over at the download page at thing-a-verse.
th-cam.com/video/CP_ZcrEla74/w-d-xo.html
But yeah if the link doesnt show up just go to thing-a-verse and click on the youtube link. I didnt get thr chance to watch the whole thing yet but the nut on the grub screw on back is m4.
@@Phred_Phlintstoner thanks brother. Yeah I started to watch his video. I have to go back and watch the whole thing. I have two machines working on it now in silver and bronze. I also think I have the 4mm nuts and screws leftover from building 6 machines. I have lots of extra nuts and bolts. If not I now I can get them. Im pretty sure I also have the wiper blades and hollow tubing. What I need is the pick tips. I've seen them before but I don't know where there getting them.
@@Phred_Phlintstoner never mind. I found a link in his video for the tips from AliExpress.
Those tiny reflections though😛
Reflections, what reflections 😉
He is wearing a disguise.
Clever Noob.
Great design from Boris, very cool! thanks for showing, love the 3D printed tools, beautiful ;o)
Cheers my friend ;o))
Thanks Tallan :-)
Super. Merci
Bosnian bill and lock picking lawyer made a disc detainer pick out of stainless steel it's real nice. Its five different vids I think. It starts on vid 825 I believe
Yes, I have seen those vids. I really, really hope we can buy them one day :-)
What are the sizes for the ejector pin and tube dimensions if one wanted to make this excellent pick as is?
I will have to check :-)
Great overview of this pick tool.
Expecting great things from your modification.
(No pressure😉)
Lol, now I feel pressure! :-)
What is this "three mill wiper blade" you speak of and where do I acquire one?
From a scrapped windscreen wiper blade
You're a mad scientist Ash my friend😎👍😎👍🇬🇧
Leon's lockpad this one is all Boris’s doing, not mine :-)
@@LockNoob it doesn't stop you being an Evil Genius😂😂😂😂
This is very true :-)
interesting, i wish boris used colors. i keep thinking light plug
I’ll let him know, lol :-)
Very cool thank you for showcasing Boris’s work. Please pass on my appreciation hours of design work then listening to that machine cranking it out. I used to deliver paper and tape to stratasys I was curious oh you manufacture 3D printers what’s that?
Thank for watching :-)
Thank you for showing this is such depth - really good thoughts! 3-D printing used how it should be. :D Question: extended the tension forks is a good idea to get into deeper keyways, but who does the tube have to be extended?
I would extend the tube to provide some stability to the extended forks. I might even epoxy them :-)
It is a deceptive cutaway because the core should be plastic 😆
And cut the other side! :-)
Looking very impressive------ looking forward to seeing the clever fu#'#*s in locksport do to improve/adapt this-- looking for more genius within 6 months to a year
Yes, that will be interesting :-)
Very nice review. I like seeing how it interacted with the "see through" lock. Do you own a 3D printer? Just wondering if you where going to try your updates your self?
I do own a 3D printer, but it’s out of action at the moment. I could certainly have a go at some mods in the future :-)
Where do you buy ”ejector pins”? Especially if you live in Sweden... Anybody who what they are called in swedish?
I believe you can buy them on Ali Express etc :-)
Also much easier to 3d print than to machine everything
I know this is a old video but, does anyone know how far out, the tensioning forks should stick out from that barrel? I realize it could be different on different locks but what would be a good distance to start with? Anyone still around? LOL @Lock Noob
Noob, the 3D pic that you have looks like an exact copy all of the one that LPL and Bosnian Bill designed out of brass and stainless steel. Your comment about the first disc always being the one that tensions the lock is not entirely accurate Kryptonite has came out with a disk detainer lock that tensions off any random disc in the stack please check it out.
very true, but for he vast majority of the cheap Chinese disc locks, they tension on the first disc :-)
That is excellent. It is so accessible, you don't have to wait to see if a company will take it to production, you can print it off yourself if you have the gear. This 3d locksport stuff has evolved immensely,it's great. Thanks to you both for sharing this great bit of kit, look forward to seeing the changes you came up with, cheers
Yes, 3D printing has really taken off and offers a lot onpf interesting Locksport opportunities:-)
Also much easier to 3d print than to machine everything