Thank you for your service! I love what's being deemed "acceptable" on this channel, makes me feel better about my own developing, lol. Video Idea: Cross Process ECN2/C-41 Film in RA4 Chemistry, ECN2 also uses CD3. Results could be interesting
That's very weird. I've shot quite a bit of various expired slides, mostly developed in c41 and it was never that bad. From my experience EPP is all around nice when cross processed. I guess Adam took a hint from the mystery film dude and sent the worst he had.
I actually know Adam from Discord, and this film is sold by FPP as garbage dummy rolls meant to use as practice to get used to loading dev tanks and cameras. It was stored atrociously, and iirc they got literal pallets of it for free because they took up space. He literally has 500+ rolls of it because he got a good bulk price, and bought them in impulse, lol.
If you try this again try using HC-110 dilution A for 6:30 at 105F for your first developer. That’s how I’m developing all of my expired slide film these days.
This reminds me of when i shot some orwo ut18, it's slide film but it wasn't designed for e-6, so you develop it with black and white and c-41 chemicals (sometimes refered to as "doble-cross"). To cut a long story short, i shot it at ISO 3 and got usable images with a huge green cast over it, but nothing photoshop could't fix. Honestly, i was surprised that i even got any color.
It's a interesting gamble with expired slides! I was lucky to get freezer stored since day one Ektachrome 120 rolls in various speeds and in 9/10 times the slides look like shot at stock speed fresh slide film if you don't think about the magenta shadows, but the a quick moment in a photo editing software gets your shadows back less magenta!
This is why I love analogue photography over digital photography: it may be expensive, tedious, and sometimes downright frustrating, but even the failures produce cool results you could never accomplish with digital photography if you tried
I must say I’m kinda suprised with the results you got. I myself have had really good results with expired slide film so far. Had three rolls of Sensia 100 expired in 2004 shot and developed at box speed that turned out great. Shot another roll from ‘06 that was stored in my father’s desk that came out very thin and completely blue, not suprising since it was stored way too hot. Also shot a 120 roll of Ektachrome expired in 1983 that I shot and developed at box speed, apart from some increased grain and warmth everything looked great as well.
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Oh man, I didn't have high hopes for the 10 or so rolls of Agfachrome 100 I still have in the fridge, but they sure are lower now! :D
Thank you for this video. I have shot a bunch of really old ektachrome, (80's & 90's expiration), and it's been hit and miss, mostly misses the older it is. I get the same results you did and that's also developing "newer" expired film in the same tank. So I would have one roll that looks completely transparent and another roll looks as it should. However there's a caveat, I found that Fuji's slide film actually holds up much better than Kodak's slide film and I can prove it. As a matter of fact, just in general it seems Fuji's expired c41 film produces better pictures than Kodak's expired c41 film. But on the topic of this video, literally last week I thought about cross processing old slide film in the c41 chems and this video just confirmed that I should do it. Thank you again.
Expired slide film is my favorite! I shot some 1994 expired Ektachrome 400HC about a week ago and developed it with Tmax dev 1+10 for 15 min, fresh C41 for 6 min, and blix for 10 min, all constant agitation. Results looked almost perfect (minus a blue cast)!
Fujifilm’s slide films are way stabler than Ektachrome or Elitechrome. I shoot most of my expired Astia, Fortia, Velvia and Provia at box speed and 90% of time get a nice image out of it. Some of them are expired 20 years ago. Meanwhile shooting expired Ektachome is a different story, I found E100VS, E100GX may grant a better result than regular Ekatchrome but it might just be a coincidence.
Interesting. I have a whole fridge full of expired slide, mostly Fuji and I’ve also had very good results. Perhaps it’s time to quietly sell off the Ektachrome…
@@iNerdierFuji slides definitely hold time better than Ektachrome. I have shot some expired Agfa RSXII as well, and they suffer the same kind of blue-ish hazy color cast as expired Ektachrome if developed in E-6. Developing in C-41 might solve the problemI I guess.
I get decent results with exposing Provia 2 stops hotter than box, then HC110(1:8) for 8-15min, stop wash, expose to light (usually tungsten or near natural light, but not in sun, basically whatever the film's color temperature is), throw into RA4 chemistry, you can even dev it in RA4 in the light... would not recommend C-41 for E6, get RA4 which uses CD4, the colors work great you will be very surprised... nice vid! :)
Such an informative watch, thanks for posting! It’s such a crap shoot with expired slide film compared to expired B&W, and those first fogged transparencies seem to be more often the scenario than not
my friend ever did this, he did cross process e-6 roll film into b&w result. he used revuechrome btw, expired around 30 years ago(or more), and the result looks not really good, but still can got scanned
You want something stronger than Rodinal, though I haven't tested it myself. There's info out there using dektol, a paper developer and hc110. You want to really cook it in the bw to get a good reversal.
I found that 3m slide film holds up the best in comparison to other slide film stored in the same (good or bad) conditions. I also have a feeling that E6 slide film ages much worse in comparison to slide film that requires other processing methodes like E2, E4, Orwo and Agfa processes. But that might be just me.
Hold up so you tri-chromed an already color image? I gotta see what this looks like on normal fresh film? What does Tri-chromed Portra 400 look like developed in C-41?
Gonna be referencing this vid quite a bit, found a cheap unsealed 100' 35mm bulk can of the stuff. Its good to know that xpro seems to save some of the most faded EPP hahaha The box at least has those soft corners i always find when somethings sat in a fridge or freezer for years, so im like 2% hopeful it won't be a no-density lavender cast mess lol
I hope you get to see this comment. I had been trying to diy Cinestill film from vision3 by removing the Remjet with baking soda and ultrasonic cleaners, which kinda worked, but after developing the film, it looks very foggy, but the halation is definitely there. You seem to have more experience, do you know what could be wrong?
I didn't know you can do janky E6 development with B/W and C41 Chemicals. I still have two rolls of Fuji Provia 100F in my fridge, that expired two years ago. That'll make for a nice experiment.
Just rushed here because i just found out that the cameras on voyager 1, the probe we sent beyond the solar system has two greyscale tv cameras that shoot trichromes
I have a single roll of velvia 50 with 10 frames remaining in my one camera, but it has been in that camera for like quite a few years.... How screwed am i????
hmm this is so inspired to me, i love slide film, black and white and color, last time i try just shoot a negative on adox cms ii and develop in normal rodinal, i have some "slide" shoots but with less contrast, so i use green and blue filter to find better results, almost and right now i ant to try your technic for color, i mostly use vision beccause i don't have to much money for shooting so if i use ecn-2 this will work? i mean maybe i can use some old slide rolls [or just try negative to have worst result for creative photography DX] and rodinal and ecn-2 develop and bleach and fix this will ork enough? jesus i want spent all my time in darkroom DX
I shot A LOT of expired E100VS (different lots expired between 2002 and 2006) and never got any problems with them... maybe i was just lucky? Or are the different Ektachromes this different?
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Man, i love these videos
Day literally got so much better seeing a new vid posted
Thank you for your service! I love what's being deemed "acceptable" on this channel, makes me feel better about my own developing, lol.
Video Idea: Cross Process ECN2/C-41 Film in RA4 Chemistry, ECN2 also uses CD3. Results could be interesting
Yes please!
woud be a super cool video
That picture of the box of infrared film was amazing
Some of those shots at the end look sick. In a good way. Admiral Ackbar is my favourite.
Awwww yeah! Week made!
That's very weird. I've shot quite a bit of various expired slides, mostly developed in c41 and it was never that bad. From my experience EPP is all around nice when cross processed.
I guess Adam took a hint from the mystery film dude and sent the worst he had.
it's the community's call and mission to give ADR the most hopeless rolls imaginable
I actually know Adam from Discord, and this film is sold by FPP as garbage dummy rolls meant to use as practice to get used to loading dev tanks and cameras. It was stored atrociously, and iirc they got literal pallets of it for free because they took up space. He literally has 500+ rolls of it because he got a good bulk price, and bought them in impulse, lol.
@@mcb187 I bought a dozen of these dummy rolls for cheap. Think it was $1 per roll. Gonna try another commenters hot HC110 method at box speed.
6:10 has that old ass daguerreotype vibe.
If you try this again try using HC-110 dilution A for 6:30 at 105F for your first developer. That’s how I’m developing all of my expired slide film these days.
This reminds me of when i shot some orwo ut18, it's slide film but it wasn't designed for e-6, so you develop it with black and white and c-41 chemicals (sometimes refered to as "doble-cross").
To cut a long story short, i shot it at ISO 3 and got usable images with a huge green cast over it, but nothing photoshop could't fix. Honestly, i was surprised that i even got any color.
It's a interesting gamble with expired slides!
I was lucky to get freezer stored since day one Ektachrome 120 rolls in various speeds and in 9/10 times the slides look like shot at stock speed fresh slide film if you don't think about the magenta shadows, but the a quick moment in a photo editing software gets your shadows back less magenta!
I love this channels comments! Always insightful! Thanks!
This is why I love analogue photography over digital photography: it may be expensive, tedious, and sometimes downright frustrating, but even the failures produce cool results you could never accomplish with digital photography if you tried
True!! "...you can get results... sometimes that's what really matters with photography, thanks!
I must say I’m kinda suprised with the results you got. I myself have had really good results with expired slide film so far. Had three rolls of Sensia 100 expired in 2004 shot and developed at box speed that turned out great. Shot another roll from ‘06 that was stored in my father’s desk that came out very thin and completely blue, not suprising since it was stored way too hot. Also shot a 120 roll of Ektachrome expired in 1983 that I shot and developed at box speed, apart from some increased grain and warmth everything looked great as well.
Oh man, I didn't have high hopes for the 10 or so rolls of Agfachrome 100 I still have in the fridge, but they sure are lower now! :D
Thank you for this video. I have shot a bunch of really old ektachrome, (80's & 90's expiration), and it's been hit and miss, mostly misses the older it is. I get the same results you did and that's also developing "newer" expired film in the same tank. So I would have one roll that looks completely transparent and another roll looks as it should. However there's a caveat, I found that Fuji's slide film actually holds up much better than Kodak's slide film and I can prove it. As a matter of fact, just in general it seems Fuji's expired c41 film produces better pictures than Kodak's expired c41 film. But on the topic of this video, literally last week I thought about cross processing old slide film in the c41 chems and this video just confirmed that I should do it. Thank you again.
Expired slide film is my favorite! I shot some 1994 expired Ektachrome 400HC about a week ago and developed it with Tmax dev 1+10 for 15 min, fresh C41 for 6 min, and blix for 10 min, all constant agitation. Results looked almost perfect (minus a blue cast)!
Fujifilm’s slide films are way stabler than Ektachrome or Elitechrome. I shoot most of my expired Astia, Fortia, Velvia and Provia at box speed and 90% of time get a nice image out of it. Some of them are expired 20 years ago. Meanwhile shooting expired Ektachome is a different story, I found E100VS, E100GX may grant a better result than regular Ekatchrome but it might just be a coincidence.
Interesting. I have a whole fridge full of expired slide, mostly Fuji and I’ve also had very good results. Perhaps it’s time to quietly sell off the Ektachrome…
@@iNerdierFuji slides definitely hold time better than Ektachrome. I have shot some expired Agfa RSXII as well, and they suffer the same kind of blue-ish hazy color cast as expired Ektachrome if developed in E-6. Developing in C-41 might solve the problemI I guess.
Well I was given a roll of Ektachrome 64 recently, so you've filled me now with an overwhelming maybe...
I've always been lucky with most of my expired E-6 film but I'll definitely try b&w when I get a bad batch of slide film
Literally just bought a 100' roll of kodachrome 64 so great timing
I get decent results with exposing Provia 2 stops hotter than box, then HC110(1:8) for 8-15min, stop wash, expose to light (usually tungsten or near natural light, but not in sun, basically whatever the film's color temperature is), throw into RA4 chemistry, you can even dev it in RA4 in the light... would not recommend C-41 for E6, get RA4 which uses CD4, the colors work great you will be very surprised... nice vid! :)
I always enjoy seeing your film experiments 😊
Such an informative watch, thanks for posting! It’s such a crap shoot with expired slide film compared to expired B&W, and those first fogged transparencies seem to be more often the scenario than not
how do you color correct your images? I have seen you videos and you do it very well.
Love your content my dude!
Amazing video as always
EPP was my favorite film to cross-process. I still have some 35 & 120 in my freezer. I hope it’s magically ok. Fingers crossed 🤞
i would love to see what you do with the new wolfen NC500
my friend ever did this, he did cross process e-6 roll film into b&w result. he used revuechrome btw, expired around 30 years ago(or more), and the result looks not really good, but still can got scanned
genuinely upset that I missed this post, im turning notifications on smh
for no good reason i'll try develop velvia 2013 in rodinal stand + well used c41 chem, thanks for idea
You want something stronger than Rodinal, though I haven't tested it myself. There's info out there using dektol, a paper developer and hc110. You want to really cook it in the bw to get a good reversal.
Now I wanna see what tricrome redscaled expired slide film developed in BW-C41 chemistry looks like
I found that 3m slide film holds up the best in comparison to other slide film stored in the same (good or bad) conditions. I also have a feeling that E6 slide film ages much worse in comparison to slide film that requires other processing methodes like E2, E4, Orwo and Agfa processes. But that might be just me.
Hold up so you tri-chromed an already color image? I gotta see what this looks like on normal fresh film? What does Tri-chromed Portra 400 look like developed in C-41?
Gonna be referencing this vid quite a bit, found a cheap unsealed 100' 35mm bulk can of the stuff. Its good to know that xpro seems to save some of the most faded EPP hahaha
The box at least has those soft corners i always find when somethings sat in a fridge or freezer for years, so im like 2% hopeful it won't be a no-density lavender cast mess lol
You are a hero :D
I hope you get to see this comment. I had been trying to diy Cinestill film from vision3 by removing the Remjet with baking soda and ultrasonic cleaners, which kinda worked, but after developing the film, it looks very foggy, but the halation is definitely there. You seem to have more experience, do you know what could be wrong?
I didn't know you can do janky E6 development with B/W and C41 Chemicals. I still have two rolls of Fuji Provia 100F in my fridge, that expired two years ago. That'll make for a nice experiment.
Just rushed here because i just found out that the cameras on voyager 1, the probe we sent beyond the solar system has two greyscale tv cameras that shoot trichromes
I have a single roll of velvia 50 with 10 frames remaining in my one camera, but it has been in that camera for like quite a few years....
How screwed am i????
You can shoot it at box speed and it would look exactly the same. If you stored your camera properly.
hmm this is so inspired to me, i love slide film, black and white and color, last time i try just shoot a negative on adox cms ii and develop in normal rodinal, i have some "slide" shoots but with less contrast, so i use green and blue filter to find better results, almost and right now i ant to try your technic for color, i mostly use vision beccause i don't have to much money for shooting so if i use ecn-2 this will work? i mean maybe i can use some old slide rolls [or just try negative to have worst result for creative photography DX] and rodinal and ecn-2 develop and bleach and fix this will ork enough? jesus i want spent all my time in darkroom DX
at 6:26 : "It's a trap."
Ugh… I’ve got a freezer full of expired chrome that I’ve -been meaning- to get to. Now I’m getting worried.
I’m shooting Kodak E100SW 120 that expired in 1997 and you cannot tell it from the same kind/batch that I shot in 1996 and 1997.
is the development process typically more expensive than regular 35 mm films?
I shot A LOT of expired E100VS (different lots expired between 2002 and 2006) and never got any problems with them... maybe i was just lucky? Or are the different Ektachromes this different?
Depends on how the film was stored. The batch I shot was poorly stored which is why it was so fogged.
have you tried to develop with coffee?
It’s been nearly a decade since Fuji discontinued a slide film stock…cmon now
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I've shot a fair share of old slide films, and maybe only had two come back 99% transparent. your film must have been stored next to a furnace.
Subtle HIE flex*
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