I'm unironically really intrigued with the freezer effect.. When I first got into darkroom photography, I was using a severely dusty enlarger and didn't realize it, but it gave my prints this wild effect.. I've been chasing that dragon ever since.. and you might've just unlocked something for me.. thanks man
I really love how you also post videos when the weird thing you try is just "Eh. This wasn't worth it" or "This actively made everything worse". It's really useful to have answers to what DOESN'T do cool things in addition to what DOES do cool things. I've had times where I've thought of something that might be cool, but you already tried it, and it wasn't, so I didn't waste my time/film/developer.
@@atticdarkroom i did some experiments, mostly on making contact positives and enlarging experiences on bigger X-rays for artistic purposes. also used the developer but didn't have the discipline to 'discover' its properties with any cientific method. i use it 1:2 (33% carestream on water) for 4 minutes with kodak 5222 if you want a start point.
I have a 5l bottle of expired Carestream but use it rarely cause the results too unpredicted. also even with a 1+50 dilution developing time is too short sometimes (less than a minute), also the film looks bad and fogging. maybe I'm doing something wrong... well I have a lot of expired Xtol and prefer having fun with it
I wonder if the smudges are because of the frozinal "delaminating" from the film at parts due to shrinkage/expansion? A solution could be freezing rodinal separately, crushing the frozinal block to extremely fine pieces, and packing your case with that. Maybe a nice way to stand develop in the open in antarctica.
I heard about american soldiers developing film in their helmets at nighttime during the war. Always wondered what would happen if someone tried that on the eastern front. Now I guess I have my answer.
I've started a darkroom photography class and all we have are metal reels and tanks. It's tricky but I've done it! It's exciting! I also just got a medium format camera, and my professor says that we do have reels for medium format! If only the Pentax 67 I got came with the TTL finder...
Okay, I now wonder if there is an antifreeze agent that would not disturb the development process or film so you could rule out the thawing time counting towards development time. Maybe Ethanol at ~20%? Though all that might do is disolve the emulsion...
There is a little bromide drag on the picture of the Steel Bridge behind the dock and pilings. Those superbright white piling caps soaked up so much developer.
the first time I tried a stand development was with hc110 but I used the Rodinal dilution and time (1:60 for an hour) and completely toasted my film. only afterward did I find out HC110 stand is really 1:160 for 45 minutes
interesting follow up would be to freeze it and then place the block of film ice on a rack so the developer melts off into a pan below. that will definitely leave some weird streaks
Did you use room temp water or fridge temp water while developing the rodinal in the fridge? Maybe the gradient comes from the fridge cooling the liquid from bottom to top and oudside to the inside slowing down the development during the cooling.
Can you do a video about stand developing C41? I want to see a comparison with multiple different film types relative to standard agitation and temperature.
If the gradient you're getting only shows up in some of the frames, it could be a could be an issue with a laggy shutter causing a gradient exposure across the frame.. Are you shooting with a camera with a vertical shutter?
Prolly not a great idea, but what about using an alcohol like vodka, absinthe, or everclear as a base to mix in the rodinal to prevent freezing? off the cuff thought and not thought through at all.
Ok so what happens if you start developing with a developer and half way through you change your mind pour it and develop the rest of the time with another developer?
i try use alcohol with water and rodinal to make solution in freezer, i make a 40% dilution of 95% spirit wit water and 5ml rodinal an this doesn't freezer in -17 degree, i develop negative and this look great, but i only try right now 24h so i need test 48h in this recipe, in my test alcohol doing the great thing, in future i need try whiskey
A week long development? Perfect. Like going back to the 90s and mailing film to be developed.
Ah yes, shoot six rolls in Massachusetts, mail them to Kansas, and say a prayer.
I mean back in the 90s i remember using 1 hour photo labs?
Most places where I live take a week anyway to develop film, so not far off from today
I'm unironically really intrigued with the freezer effect..
When I first got into darkroom photography, I was using a severely dusty enlarger and didn't realize it, but it gave my prints this wild effect.. I've been chasing that dragon ever since.. and you might've just unlocked something for me.. thanks man
Let’s goooooo
A 6 week process just to say don’t do this. This is what I subscribe for
“And of course I trichromed it”
Always waiting for that part.
I really love how you also post videos when the weird thing you try is just "Eh. This wasn't worth it" or "This actively made everything worse". It's really useful to have answers to what DOESN'T do cool things in addition to what DOES do cool things. I've had times where I've thought of something that might be cool, but you already tried it, and it wasn't, so I didn't waste my time/film/developer.
Can't wait for the video in a year "I developed HP5 in a cryogenic freezer for 12 months".
i would love to see some development in dentist X-ray developer like Carestream.
experiences with dilution and temperature would be very interesting
I never considered messing with dental film before. I'll have to look into it.
@@atticdarkroom i did some experiments, mostly on making contact positives and enlarging experiences on bigger X-rays for artistic purposes.
also used the developer but didn't have the discipline to 'discover' its properties with any cientific method.
i use it 1:2 (33% carestream on water) for 4 minutes with kodak 5222 if you want a start point.
I have a 5l bottle of expired Carestream but use it rarely cause the results too unpredicted. also even with a 1+50 dilution developing time is too short sometimes (less than a minute), also the film looks bad and fogging. maybe I'm doing something wrong... well I have a lot of expired Xtol and prefer having fun with it
4:54 yo that looks 🔥🔥🔥🔥
You should honestly try pushing gold to insane numbers, in my own experience it can be pushed to unethical amounts without that many issues
I wonder if the smudges are because of the frozinal "delaminating" from the film at parts due to shrinkage/expansion? A solution could be freezing rodinal separately, crushing the frozinal block to extremely fine pieces, and packing your case with that. Maybe a nice way to stand develop in the open in antarctica.
I heard about american soldiers developing film in their helmets at nighttime during the war. Always wondered what would happen if someone tried that on the eastern front. Now I guess I have my answer.
That was Tony Vaccaro in wwii
I've started a darkroom photography class and all we have are metal reels and tanks. It's tricky but I've done it! It's exciting!
I also just got a medium format camera, and my professor says that we do have reels for medium format!
If only the Pentax 67 I got came with the TTL finder...
Okay, I now wonder if there is an antifreeze agent that would not disturb the development process or film so you could rule out the thawing time counting towards development time. Maybe Ethanol at ~20%? Though all that might do is disolve the emulsion...
Maybe Salt? Not sure
There is a little bromide drag on the picture of the Steel Bridge behind the dock and pilings. Those superbright white piling caps soaked up so much developer.
the first time I tried a stand development was with hc110 but I used the Rodinal dilution and time (1:60 for an hour) and completely toasted my film. only afterward did I find out HC110 stand is really 1:160 for 45 minutes
interesting follow up would be to freeze it and then place the block of film ice on a rack so the developer melts off into a pan below. that will definitely leave some weird streaks
this guy is crazy
I love it
Maybe adding something like glycerol could lower the freezing point, given that it doesn’t interfere with development
I love this channel so much, amazing work
The blotchiness almost looks like faint reflections from shooting through a storefront window or something. Neat.
Did you use room temp water or fridge temp water while developing the rodinal in the fridge? Maybe the gradient comes from the fridge cooling the liquid from bottom to top and oudside to the inside slowing down the development during the cooling.
William Mortensen did months long fridge development with occasional agitation. He called it Gamma Zero procedure.
Thanks a lot for this video, I am looking to develop some very old color 127 film with stand development and was looking into the fridge thing.
Can you do a video about stand developing C41? I want to see a comparison with multiple different film types relative to standard agitation and temperature.
The cats 😂👏
is 5:07 a double exposure or has attic biology cloned a cat?
100% clone 😂
I wonder what adding some antifreeze to the mix would do… do methanol and film get along???
If the gradient you're getting only shows up in some of the frames, it could be a could be an issue with a laggy shutter causing a gradient exposure across the frame.. Are you shooting with a camera with a vertical shutter?
I didn't consider that, just assumed it was development related.
If the refrigeration causes a consistent enough band of under/over development, can't we take advantage of it as a graduated ND?
Nice! :)
Prolly not a great idea, but what about using an alcohol like vodka, absinthe, or everclear as a base to mix in the rodinal to prevent freezing? off the cuff thought and not thought through at all.
i just get curious if c41 could be also developed in freezer and how it could look then
i've heard HP5+ is slightly sensitive to UV light, with the right filters, a trichrome might look really cool :)
Probably developed in the thawing and freezing... but also loved this.
Developing in the freezer. What a stupid idea! 🤣😅 I love it!!!! Hahaha!!!
Im curious how coldinal compared to starndard stand developper...less grain ? Better tonality ? Dynamic range ?
How do you develope? Well i put it on dry ice and come back a year later. Well and don't forget thawing it in a stop bath. ...
This is how they develop film at the south pole.
Would this be possible with other developers? If so, would you have any idea what the conversions would be?
Have you tried stand development with color film that was shot 60 years ago? I don't care if I get color images, I just want usable images.
Ok so what happens if you start developing with a developer and half way through you change your mind pour it and develop the rest of the time with another developer?
i try use alcohol with water and rodinal to make solution in freezer, i make a 40% dilution of 95% spirit wit water and 5ml rodinal an this doesn't freezer in -17 degree, i develop negative and this look great, but i only try right now 24h so i need test 48h in this recipe, in my test alcohol doing the great thing, in future i need try whiskey
Lol, how long it took to make this video?
Now try it in the freezer but cut the water with antifreeze
The blotchy development effect looks kind of similar to diabetic retinopathy. Weird.
This should be called 'Frozinal'
Or 'Rodicle'
It better to develop for 5 - 7 days in the fridge
Let's fucking gooo
so water freeze below 0 degree... vodka don't, no i shouldn't do that
So when will we see you try to make your own film for no good reason?
The 't' in 'often' is silent.
Aw Jesus.. what have you done?
😂😂😂
try using human blood to develop a roll of film😂
Beer can photography plus a week long development 😬.