Philosophy of Code Geass I bet you won't regret it Probably it will have to be a 2 parter The entire series has many ideologies and philosophies Especially Lelouch and Suzaku Please make it happen
Nice hook Marty!, i liked that one better, or if the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of a devine reward, then brother that person is a peace of sh*t.
@@angelvalentinov4824 I think that quote is just plain wrong tho, Christians aren't doing good things to get into heaven, as no human's acts will reward them with a divine reward, idk that quote's always bugged me
@@logancoleman4507yes they do, they follow the word of god and the prophet Jesus. Jesus preached kindness and forgiveness onto one another. The general dogma is to follow the word of Christ in Christianity or you’ll go to hell.
I always thought that the ending of the first season meant that Rust has overcome his pessimistic worldview. His closing words ("Once there was only dark. If you ask me, the light is winning.") felt to me like a realization. The realization that not his lacking constitution for suicide was the reason he lived, but his choice to fight for the light. A choice he subconsciously made a long time ago and that kept him going. I'm saying this because, especially through the development of Rust Chole as a character, I see a strong theme of existentialism in the first season. Existentialist believe that there is no inherent meaning to the world and therefore no inherent meaning to our lives. Every human has the responsibility to create his or her own meaning, through the choices she or he makes. Like Sartre said: "Life has no meaning a priori […] It is up to you to give it a meaning, and value is nothing but the meaning that you choose." I would argue that Pizzolatto tried to convey that the world truly is a cold, uncaring and dark place and that it would be easy to give in to the darkness, but that doing so is our choice. We are also free to choose the light instead.
So much yes, the ending makes season 1 a masterpiece in my mind. Reminds me of a quote from another piece of media with cosmic horror elements called Night in the Woods: "I believe in a universe that doesn't care and people who do".
@@Dan1elAndrade Agreed. I was introduced to Matthew McConaughey with Contact 20ish years ago. One of the few movies I ever bothered to watch at a cinema. Absolutely loved it. Carl Sagan's writing is just so brilliant. It's still the best hard sci-fi around imho. Everything is plausible. Nothing is out of place. The themes are deep. There's believable, meaningful conflict. It gets you thinking and feeling at the same time. Jodie Foster was so expressive. Some of her best work. Although I didn't particularly like the char McConaughey had to play (not much I could identify with), I think he did a good job, and I have kept track of his work ever since. I'd say that it's not that he's a bad actor, because he isn't. He's a good actor. He just doesn't seem very selective about which roles to play, unlike other actors who only accept the very best roles they're offered and refuse everything else. Maybe he's right. Actors get to be famous and make more money than most, but at the end of the day it's a job.
I don't think Cohle was contradicting himself in the end. His character transformation and paradigm shift about existence changed when he almost died and saw or "felt" the afterlife. It's a beautiful and rather optimistic element from a rather dark show.
Exactly - how did these guys somehow mistake a character completing his arc for some sort of hackneyed contradiction. It's the last goddamn line in the show before a cut to black, and the writer wasn't going to hone it and make sure it was important to both the character and to the narrative?
@Fuzzy Dunlop @Cody Nunez Unfortunately this is a writing trope among pessimistic writers. Readers do not tend to like or enjoy depressing or cruel endings but pessimists still want people to continue to read and learn from their works. So they often leave a single purposefully hopeful line or paragraph at the end as the sugar to help the medicine go down. In the same way that humans will focus on the 1 critical comment even if it follows 1000 positive comments, humans will focus on a singular line or paragraph which brings comfort even if it follows 9 hours/1000 pages of existential dread, doom and horror.
@@thecolumbopause4961 i read the ending as the movement from a shopenhourian pessimism to a nietzscheian pessimism. Or as ligotti writes in the conspiracy against the human race a pessimist who learns to live with a knife in the gut rather than a resignation
Why? I'm legitimately curious. I thought the acting was fantastic, but the season was narratively meandering, stakes-free, inconsistent nonsense with no storytelling thrust. The philosophy was intro course-level.
I love how the series shows how hard is to actually solve a complicated even for the two smart characters, unlike some CSI where everybody is super genius and there blood and semen everywhere.
In fact they solved it by relating a ‘green eared spaghetti monster’with a house painter who might have accidentally painted his ears green! Only a show this good can be forgiven for shit like that!
I was rewatching s1 yesterday and when the green eared spaghetti monster to green painted house link happened, my automated reaction was 'well, that's a bit of a stretch' but then I paused for a sec and thought about how there are many real life stories that have even more insane details. Sometimes you hear how the police caught someone or something else that sounds so ridiculous that, if it were fiction, it would just be bad writing. So I decided to give the spaghetti monster a pass based on that. 😅
Why do people hate the ending of the first season? In the end of true detective, Rust knows that the world is not a fine place, it's filled with inescapable horror & evil, vile people. But there are moments in life that bring light in this dark world. And at the end of the day, that's worth fighting for.
Because they reject the conclusion Rust came to. The world is full of mundane people who trick themselves into justifying their mediocrity through an infantile surface level embodiment of pessimism and nihilism. The initial outlook of Rust is what drew them to him, and his character's conclusion forced them to look inward.
Nic Pizzolatto stated in the Inside the Episode of True Detective that the reason Rust says the “light’s winning” at the end is because that is actual physics and not just optimistic opinion.
I think in the ending Chole trully was "born again" or "seen the light." The light for which he was fighting for from the beginning, against the forces of darkness. He seemed to use pessimism and words and phrases as a coping mechanism for loss and suffering. But his NED revealed to him a sense of eternity and transcendence found in true genuine love. Love for humanity. Love for which he was willing to die. The title of the last episode "Emptiness and form" seems like an obvious reference to Buddhist "emptiness is form, form is emptiness." Which is a profound spiritual realization about the inter-existence of the cosmos.
I'm pretty sure the idea behind the show is that we do live in a god forsaken awful shit -hole of a world, but we might do something to make it just a little less dreadful. It won't make our lives any less deprived of meaning in the grand scheme of the universe but that's all we can do : face the darkness, accept it, and poke tiny holes where light could pass through.
@@PaulGLarsson I'm pretty sure he spent ages writing it and then directed as well. But he only had a fraction the time to come up with the story for S2. Edit: that's what I was told, could be totally wrong.
@@PaulGLarsson He didn't. Nic Pizzolatto wrote ep 1, 2,3,4,5,6,7,8 of Season one. Fukunaga directed them. Reason why season 2 was mediocre is mainly because Pizzolatto had little time to work on it. Doesn't matter how good you are as a writter, when you have too much pressure, not enough time to work a film project (or tv series), quality will take a major hit.
I see what you did here, but dig this: not all of us are well-versed in this subject as you might possibly be. I absolutely loved season 1 of True Detective, but not gonna lie: I always felt like there was a layer of deep, complex thinking behind it that I didn't really manage to get to. After watching this, I feel like I understand a whole lot more about that piece of art that I love, and I'm grateful for it. However, I also get why your comment was tempting.
I know man, Hersh Ali was such a brilliant choice as lead... I've got episode 4 waiting for me, I'm trying to refrain from watching it right now and wait for more episodes, but this is hard af, I'm jonesin like a motherfucker lol
The "disturbing doll" scene you mentioned is part of demonstrating the principle of the psychosphere and how the crime/s negatively influence the people around.
When I had my two children and watched them grow as they pulled themselves by their bootstraps from the swamps of nothingness, one day I felt this dread, and a voice echoed in my brain: you have committed a crime against humanity by bringing your children into this gutter. I have never been able to shake off that dread. My children are 13 and 10.
Well, they are here now. The point of no return is crossed and nothing can ever change that. You shouldn't concern yourself too much with things you can't change. You should focus as much energy as possible on the things you can influence instead. In this case it means, being the best parent you possibly can be for them. Thats is just my humble opinion.
I’m glad you’ve come to that realization. But yes, they are already here. All you can do is love them and try to help them be happy and have the best life they can
"Who are we kidding... IS ALL SEASON 1" HAHAHAHA!!! I'm watching closely season 3 and it's alright... but I can tell already, nothing will beat Season 1 Evah. Let's just watch it again for consolation
In my opinion, season 1 is good, but is impacted by the all too common overreaction by the internet as being this untouchable masterpiece. One could say that Nic only had one good story in him, or the team that made subsequent series aren't the same, including many directors for season 2, none of whom was Cary Fukanaga who directed all of season 1. However, the way I see it, season 1 was praised for it's tone, but those same people dissatisfied the ending's vague conclusions. They then turned around and hated on season 2 because it wasn't as "mysterious," then wrapped everything nicely. This is art, so it's subjective, but I would wager that people who never heard of True Detective and watched season 2 first, followed by season 1 would enjoy both and the preference for the better one would be more even. Another option is if people were shown season 1 called True Detective and season 2 called "Dirty California" or something we'd see more people that like both because they wouldn't compare them. They're anthology series with no ties to each other, but people can't stop linking them. I think we don't see as much of the same reaction from AHS and Fargo because they don't have the same production value and and more importantly, they keep something that carries over from each series to the next. With AHS is most of the cast and the horror theme, while with Fargo the general ambience, right down to the settings. I think season 1 only stands out for three reasons: it was something "different" from a mainstream perspective, no one expected McConaughey to be that good and people would have rather seen season 2 be a continuation of season 1 to see if they were right about their own hypotheses regarding the ambiguity of season 1. So I don't think people will ever be satisfied with whatever they do from here on out. If season 4 came back with the same cast/crew and tied the story together, people would complain. If they told a different story with the same cast/crew, people would complain. Personally, both season 1 and season 2 were well acted and told interesting stories with interesting characters. In fact, I cared more about the characters from season 2 and more about the story from season 1. But really, I think if people are being consistent and analytical, they would admit that the first 4-5 episodes of season 1 started with an intense excitement that the rest of the entire show doesn't quite live up to. I've still enjoyed everything, because I keep it all in perspective.
What the doll scene shows is Marty's denial as rust said is the difference btw him and Marty. If Marty instead of denying it talked to his daughter maybe she wouldn't have drawn that picture in the class but he denied it's seriousness again while Maggie was still worried. Eventually, when his daughter gets caught with two boys Marty gets pissed off and beat up the two boys denying he could have stopped it. Think how different would be Maggie's or Rust's reaction would be if the saw their kids do the exact same thing with the dolls.
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But in the end, what this video isn't getting is what storytelling is about: a character's transformation. He goes from nihilist to "we are all connected" he died and came back, with a whole different perspective. So it is a positive transformation.
Here's the thing Rust wants to be nihilistic, but can't stop fighting for good. And the light wins out in the end. That says something true about life itself. When all is said and done we will find that life was a bunch of mediocrity punctuated by a few moments of true bliss and happiness. Those moments of connection with and in service of other people. This is always possible if you seek it out. Hope and light are like a quiet music constantly playing. You can move away from the music and cover your ears and find darkness and deceit but eventually you wander back.
It's just that even after all that Rust doesn't win only the main culprit is caught, people like Tuttle escape shot free even though they are just as guilty
I remember the first time I finished the series, I had a similar outlook about the ending. I found it frustrating that so many questions were left unanswered. Then, some time later, I re-watched the entire thing in a binge session, and I had my mind blown. Rust says it himself: "This is a world where nothing is solved." Concluding the story with a satisfying ending, all neatly wrapped up with a bow entirely defeats the story's message.
Well it's subjective innit. I look at the world and it's a paradise, punctuated with extreme horror. We're not here to experience joy. We are here to experience EVERYTHING.
Nietzsche of course never said, "Time is a flat circle." He did talk about "the external reoccurrence," the idea that everything happens over and over in exactly the same way over vast periods of time. However, it is not clear that he meant this literally. More likely, he meant that we should embrace our lives so much that we could we be happy if even if we knew that all of it would happen over and over, suffering and all. He referred to his philosophy as "strong pessimism," the ability to recognize how difficult life can be, and how meaningless it ultimately is, and still embrace it.
YES! This was a long time coming. Season 1 is easily some of the best drama I've ever watched. Season 3 not half bad either so far. I don't think Rustin and Martin can be outdone as characters though.
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“There’s good in this world mr Frodo and it’s worth fighting for” Samwise said this and the quote always stuck with me, The saying it’s a part of my world view and I’ll continue to believe what Sam wise did no matter what.
I rewatched all of TD with my mom and I think s2 deserves a second watch and that vince vaughn is underrated IMO. He just can't escape the shadow of the bulk of his career
Second season of True Detective is actually rich with philosophical meaning, and that meaning comes from the East. There was subreddit about perceiving Second season through the lense of Bardo Thodal, Tibetian Book of the Dead.
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One thing I realized on my 5th or 6th rewatching of True Detective was Rust's character is very similar to other characters who are the protaginists in H.P. Lovecrafts universe where they usually suffer from hallucinations and sleep problems. Anyway after looking at that and the fact that the yellow king in carcosa is in their world I'm 100% certain true detective, at least season 1, is set in a Lovecraftian universe.
Hey that’s my comment in the video! I was so excited to watch it! Fantastic job! I loved seeing y’all’s take on this show. Thanks for making this! And including my comment!
I'd say the whole point of season 1 is that we should not exist but yet we do and we are looking for a tiny spec in the abyss to latch onto and find some meaning for existence. For rust that was solving the 1995 murder amidst the abyss that is corrupt politicians and their consoiracies. The reason they opened the case again was to catch their guy not expose the illuminati of louisianna. After they have accomplished that rust feels a sense of fullfilment for the first time since his daugters death sparking a sense of futile optimism
Excellent take on the show. It was an interesting show, that ended with the predictable failure to deal with the effects of terror management theory's implications. Philosophical pessimism is not simply "an unwillingness to move beyond the worse." I am a pessimist and I enjoy as much pleasure as I responsibly can. At its core it is an ontological inference that natural aversion and attraction states are asymmetrical and asymptotically weighted toward aversion. In other words: natural life is pain, and optimism is a gambler's fallacy/selection bias that distorts our already flawed (problem of induction) model of the world. It's not that the glass is half empty. The glass is always full. It's simply, naturally, almost entirely full of poison that will kill you no matter what you do. It's a form of non-naive, or representational realism.
Thank you for touching on the cosmic horror aspect this show. No one else seems to pick up on it. You forgot to mention that Colin Farrell's character actually goes to carcosa in season two where he meets his father.
I would recommend if you like True Detective to try out The Knick. It's really well done, but it seems like a lot of people passed it by. It's directed by Steven Soderbergh, stars Clive Owen, Andre Holland and Michael Angarano. Takes place in the early 20th century and is about the brink of modern medicine, so naturally quite bleak and dark like True Detective. A quote Thackery says in episode 1 reminds me of the philosophy expressed by Cohle during the ending of True Detective. Thack says "and many strokes, though with a little ax, hew down and fell the hardest timbered oak." I always think of the "Once there was only dark." bit that Cohle talks about. Both shows embrace a seemingly crushing pessimism, but line it with a small feeling of hope and progress along the way.
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As a retired police detective from Jersey City NJ..True Detective is without doubt the most thought provoking and entertaining police drama I've ever seen..My experiences were never that demanding of one's soul. Most cases were very "solvable".. criminals were usually guilty as sin..and there were no existential questions involved. Even though I hoped there sometimes would be. It's sure there are plenty of investigators that have ot had at least one case
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Ughhh, I both love and hate when one of your videos comes out while I'm at work. Love because I know I have something awesome to watch after work, but hate because I have to wait XD
Maybe not related but i love how people think they have something in control and planned like caring for a child when nothing you do is in your control and everything can kill you
I thought they ended season 1 in an excellent way. Cohl overcomes his pessimism after his brush with death and finally sees the light winning out over the darkness. A very fitting character arc for him.
I agree, the best part is that all of the supernatural stuff that happens in the show can be explained by rust's drug taking during his undercover years.
I actually found the ending of season one quite a thoughtful reflection on the meaninglessness of violence: all season long we have been hyping up this Yellow King as some kind of demon, almost supernatural like a Lovecraftian Old One, but when we discover his identity it turns out he is just some ugly, stupid, worthless loser. The satanic symbols that terrified me all season long fell completely flat for me during the final confrontation since I now knew that the person who made them was just some dull, narcissistic asshole and nothing more. There was no more sense of dread or cosmic struggle, just the utter meaninglessness of the deaths of the victims, who were all infinitely more wonderful and important than the piece of shit that killed them.
Perhaps, but the problem is that the areas that have more problems with overreproduction (India and Africa, for example) are the areas where such concept isn't vilified. It's downright unthinkable.
I always thought the doll scene with the daughter was meant to represent another one of Marty’s ongoing decisions to not take a more active roll in his families life. This is also represented in the lawnmower scene with Russ, when Marty is reminded of things he is not managing at home, then responds with anger. Marty says in the interview at some point that he never changed, at least not in the right ways. He chose not to talk to his daughter about the sexual scene she acted out with the dolls, then when she acts on those fantasies at age 16, Marty responds with violence
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I don't think I've met a character like rusty on any tv series so far. Is amazing how the character is shown by the actor and completely made people fell in love of him even though he (as a character) doesn't show any kind of characteristics to like. I loved 1st season. left the series at the first 3 eps of the 2nd, but thinking about coming back to the 3rd.
It says a lot about this series that an analysis of it should end with a help-hotline for borderline suicidals. It also says a lot about why cosmic horror is so popular in this society, build on christian mythology and filosophy.
Yeah, rust's character speaks lot of word salad but at the end of the day he's a person who's suicidal but doesn't have the will to commit to it. So he comes up with his own theories on trying to explain the Universe. While it looks and sounds interesting. His character is deeply flawed
It isn't, it's mainly about pessimism, not nihilism. They aren't the same thing. Nihilism states that life is devoid of meaning. While that probably sounds pretty damn pessimistic, especially if you're used to religious cultures and beliefs, not all nihilists are pessimists, some find the acceptance of the lack of meaning to be very enjoyable, giving a sense of freedom that traditional structures lack.
@@ConriDubhghail Man its so bad that is funny its just something like new star wars, you know? Its something like "we love to like him and laught at it" sobrenatural destroyed himself with the 10/11/12/13 seasons...bringing back people(obviously making us feel nothing about their deaths)...Idiot jokes out of nowhere...corny characters like, god doing nothing new Bobby. Goddamn man i've started to see season 14 cuz people told me "its like the early seasons" and i like ok. Man you know Zelda? Yea Theres something like a dark world in sobrenatural with the same people but different, you know that dark world usual stuff. I dropped the series in season 7 and say to you, if we start a conversation about *what went wrong* and about all the cringes...........................
@@UmDevoto I dropped it in Season 8, I think. I just got tired of the general lack of progression. I'll give the newer stuff a watch and see if I can laugh at it. Thanks for reminding me of it. Those first three seasons were really enjoyable.
You are dead wrong about Season 2 lacking philosophical underpinnings. I don't think it comes accross on first watching, Season two is dense, with many layers of meaning. It's partly noir but it's mostly greek tragedy. Each of the four main characters represent a hero from a different greek tragedy, each is brought down by a flaw in their character (Except Antigone, who remains as a witness like her namesake). Also each character is in a different part of the journey towards dealing with being a violent person and the cycle that goes with that. In that respect they are somewhat like the same character at different points in time. I probably go a bit against the grain in saying that cinematography aside, I thought Season 2 was a little bit better than Season 1. I think it deserves a philosophy of all it's own.
Don't get the witness/Antigone reference? Wasn't Antigone sacrificed by her father, the King, according to the greek tragedy? By the way, I thought Season 2 was great as well, but not as good as the first though. I don't think any show is or ever will be✌
I love this show. Season 2 for different reasons but God damn the ending of that one tears your heart out. Just started getting around to season 3 now finally
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What’s the name of the background music in minute 11:30?
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Could you do a Deep or Dumb: Cloud Atlas? I barely understood what the main theme was and it feels a little flat.
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I bet you won't regret it
Probably it will have to be a 2 parter
The entire series has many ideologies and philosophies
Especially Lelouch and Suzaku
Please make it happen
not a popular request but would love if you tackled the philosophy of Hannibal the Nbc series with Mads Mikklessen
"What is that, Nietzche? Shut the fuck up. "
The best and most telling line in the whole season.
That is also my reaction to hearing Nietzsche quotes.
Nice hook Marty!, i liked that one better, or if the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of a devine reward, then brother that person is a peace of sh*t.
@@angelvalentinov4824 ''You must have the hubris it takes to yank a soul out of non-existence into this meat'' is also cool.
@@angelvalentinov4824 I think that quote is just plain wrong tho, Christians aren't doing good things to get into heaven, as no human's acts will reward them with a divine reward, idk that quote's always bugged me
@@logancoleman4507yes they do, they follow the word of god and the prophet Jesus. Jesus preached kindness and forgiveness onto one another. The general dogma is to follow the word of Christ in Christianity or you’ll go to hell.
I always thought that the ending of the first season meant that Rust has overcome his pessimistic worldview. His closing words ("Once there was only dark. If you ask me, the light is winning.") felt to me like a realization. The realization that not his lacking constitution for suicide was the reason he lived, but his choice to fight for the light. A choice he subconsciously made a long time ago and that kept him going. I'm saying this because, especially through the development of Rust Chole as a character, I see a strong theme of existentialism in the first season.
Existentialist believe that there is no inherent meaning to the world and therefore no inherent meaning to our lives. Every human has the responsibility to create his or her own meaning, through the choices she or he makes. Like Sartre said: "Life has no meaning a priori […] It is up to you to give it a meaning, and value is nothing but the meaning that you choose."
I would argue that Pizzolatto tried to convey that the world truly is a cold, uncaring and dark place and that it would be easy to give in to the darkness, but that doing so is our choice. We are also free to choose the light instead.
Well said. The value of choice.
So much yes, the ending makes season 1 a masterpiece in my mind. Reminds me of a quote from another piece of media with cosmic horror elements called Night in the Woods: "I believe in a universe that doesn't care and people who do".
Yeah, Pizzolatto said as much himself.
@@rkrokberg that is a beautiful quote. Are you talking about the video game Night in the Woods?
@@ObservableObserver Yes. Such a profound game.
I love how Matthew McConaughey Just randomly entered sage mode one day and is this terrific actor in he best projects now.
He always was a good actor.
He just did rom coms because why not?
money and stressless I guess
@@Dan1elAndrade Agreed. I was introduced to Matthew McConaughey with Contact 20ish years ago. One of the few movies I ever bothered to watch at a cinema. Absolutely loved it. Carl Sagan's writing is just so brilliant. It's still the best hard sci-fi around imho. Everything is plausible. Nothing is out of place. The themes are deep. There's believable, meaningful conflict. It gets you thinking and feeling at the same time. Jodie Foster was so expressive. Some of her best work. Although I didn't particularly like the char McConaughey had to play (not much I could identify with), I think he did a good job, and I have kept track of his work ever since. I'd say that it's not that he's a bad actor, because he isn't. He's a good actor. He just doesn't seem very selective about which roles to play, unlike other actors who only accept the very best roles they're offered and refuse everything else. Maybe he's right. Actors get to be famous and make more money than most, but at the end of the day it's a job.
You ever see him in Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation? FUCKING TOUR DE FORCE! Look it up. You wont regret it. BYEOOOOOOOOO
watch a time to kill with samuel l jackson, or amistad with anthony hopkins, he has always been a great actor.
@@Dan1elAndrade This was like the part of that transition, I mean I tihnk mud was right before this and it was fantastic maybe lincoln lawyer too lol
I don't think Cohle was contradicting himself in the end. His character transformation and paradigm shift about existence changed when he almost died and saw or "felt" the afterlife. It's a beautiful and rather optimistic element from a rather dark show.
Exactly - how did these guys somehow mistake a character completing his arc for some sort of hackneyed contradiction. It's the last goddamn line in the show before a cut to black, and the writer wasn't going to hone it and make sure it was important to both the character and to the narrative?
@Fuzzy Dunlop @Cody Nunez Unfortunately this is a writing trope among pessimistic writers. Readers do not tend to like or enjoy depressing or cruel endings but pessimists still want people to continue to read and learn from their works. So they often leave a single purposefully hopeful line or paragraph at the end as the sugar to help the medicine go down. In the same way that humans will focus on the 1 critical comment even if it follows 1000 positive comments, humans will focus on a singular line or paragraph which brings comfort even if it follows 9 hours/1000 pages of existential dread, doom and horror.
The analysis on the TH-cam channel ‘Shiva’s Right Foot’ helps to clarify this point.
@@thecolumbopause4961 i read the ending as the movement from a shopenhourian pessimism to a nietzscheian pessimism. Or as ligotti writes in the conspiracy against the human race a pessimist who learns to live with a knife in the gut rather than a resignation
@@aufhebenx3662 Learns to live with a knife in the gut, eh? That’s a bit on the nose in context of the show.
Rewatched season 1 and it haunts me. Makes everything else on tv look like garbage.
Why? I'm legitimately curious. I thought the acting was fantastic, but the season was narratively meandering, stakes-free, inconsistent nonsense with no storytelling thrust. The philosophy was intro course-level.
@@Mmmmilo Same! I literally thought the same thing when i watched it
@@Mmmmilo I like detective shows and they just don't make 'em like this.
@@Mmmmilo Are we talking about the same True Detective season 1?
@@Mmmmilogenuinely would love to know what tv series you deemed amazing with this standard. Because True Detective satisfied me enough
Ah yes, the first wave of the Matthew McConaughaissance.
True Detective S1 is the standout butttttt the McConaughaissance started justtttt before this with The Lincoln Lawyer 🙂
You should put subtitles for him though
@@johnnycanuck2 what about Time to Kill?
UnderSun Yeah, still in that first wave tho.
@@hollandscottthomas Killer Joe
I love how the series shows how hard is to actually solve a complicated even for the two smart characters, unlike some CSI where everybody is super genius and there blood and semen everywhere.
If the man had ejaculated, and then punched you in the face, we'd have a real good shot at catching him
You, uh, you''ve got some semen on your shoe.
Ah i hate CSI, they treat us like a child.
In fact they solved it by relating a ‘green eared spaghetti monster’with a house painter who might have accidentally painted his ears green! Only a show this good can be forgiven for shit like that!
I was rewatching s1 yesterday and when the green eared spaghetti monster to green painted house link happened, my automated reaction was 'well, that's a bit of a stretch' but then I paused for a sec and thought about how there are many real life stories that have even more insane details. Sometimes you hear how the police caught someone or something else that sounds so ridiculous that, if it were fiction, it would just be bad writing. So I decided to give the spaghetti monster a pass based on that. 😅
Why do people hate the ending of the first season?
In the end of true detective, Rust knows that the world is not a fine place, it's filled with inescapable horror & evil, vile people. But there are moments in life that bring light in this dark world. And at the end of the day, that's worth fighting for.
Nice Se7en tie-in.
You just came from Lessons from the Screenplay, didn't you?
People didn’t enjoy not having a satisfying ending although i did enjoy the ending
Broken Tv season 1 had a great ending and season 3’s ending was terrible
Because they reject the conclusion Rust came to. The world is full of mundane people who trick themselves into justifying their mediocrity through an infantile surface level embodiment of pessimism and nihilism. The initial outlook of Rust is what drew them to him, and his character's conclusion forced them to look inward.
Nic Pizzolatto stated in the Inside the Episode of True Detective that the reason Rust says the “light’s winning” at the end is because that is actual physics and not just optimistic opinion.
I think in the ending Chole trully was "born again" or "seen the light." The light for which he was fighting for from the beginning, against the forces of darkness.
He seemed to use pessimism and words and phrases as a coping mechanism for loss and suffering. But his NED revealed to him a sense of eternity and transcendence found in true genuine love. Love for humanity. Love for which he was willing to die.
The title of the last episode "Emptiness and form" seems like an obvious reference to Buddhist "emptiness is form, form is emptiness." Which is a profound spiritual realization about the inter-existence of the cosmos.
This show is alright alright alright
This meme is dead dead dead.
@@akshan2310 oh yeah yeah
@Atheos B. Sapien That's a dangerous reply to type on TH-cam comments. Sets you up pretty bad.
I like them child torture/murder victims.. I get older, they stay the saaame age
You are cringey
I'm pretty sure the idea behind the show is that we do live in a god forsaken awful shit -hole of a world, but we might do something to make it just a little less dreadful. It won't make our lives any less deprived of meaning in the grand scheme of the universe but that's all we can do : face the darkness, accept it, and poke tiny holes where light could pass through.
Exactly that, pessimism is in the end not a fact but a choice
It’s cool of you to take responsibility of your endorsements wisecrack
I know right.
Wait, why?
Better help is still a fucking scam
I bet Betterhelp just added some more zeros to the check they give wisecrack
Season 1 remains one of the most well acted series in history.
I feel like Cary Fukunaga really made the difference in season 1.
Fukunaga spent like 3-4 years writing S1. S2 was written in 1 year because Hollywood wanted quick cash.
@@Jagonath I honestly loved the second season though, maybe not as much as the first but still an enjoyable crime epic.
@@Jagonath fukunaga wrote for s1? thought he only directed
@@PaulGLarsson I'm pretty sure he spent ages writing it and then directed as well. But he only had a fraction the time to come up with the story for S2. Edit: that's what I was told, could be totally wrong.
@@PaulGLarsson He didn't. Nic Pizzolatto wrote ep 1, 2,3,4,5,6,7,8 of Season one. Fukunaga directed them. Reason why season 2 was mediocre is mainly because Pizzolatto had little time to work on it. Doesn't matter how good you are as a writter, when you have too much pressure, not enough time to work a film project (or tv series), quality will take a major hit.
Rust: i am a pessimist
Wisecrack: what is the philosopy behind true detective?
I'll take my chance and say its pessimism
I see what you did here, but dig this: not all of us are well-versed in this subject as you might possibly be.
I absolutely loved season 1 of True Detective, but not gonna lie: I always felt like there was a layer of deep, complex thinking behind it that I didn't really manage to get to. After watching this, I feel like I understand a whole lot more about that piece of art that I love, and I'm grateful for it.
However, I also get why your comment was tempting.
Yeah but the ending subverted that tho
Eaque Johnson I gave you a like, simply because the phrase; _”dig this:”_
I can dig it, quite groovy.. hope I didn’t harsh the mellow, man.
i'm just happy everyohne's so posi round here i liked alla y'all
Julien Lefebvre right on, right on. Ain’t no jive talk when I say I dug what you dig, you dig me.
The conspiracy against the human race is an absolute masterpiece. Highly recommend!
@@thotslayer9914 yes it's a book. Pdf is free online
Last year they reproduced it with a new forward for people looking for a physical copy.
Ligotti's fiction is also excellent.
@blindwillie99 Alive, you mean?
Love the first.. and third season is looking great
I know man, Hersh Ali was such a brilliant choice as lead...
I've got episode 4 waiting for me, I'm trying to refrain from watching it right now and wait for more episodes, but this is hard af, I'm jonesin like a motherfucker lol
@@SaintMu can't agree more. the acting has been outstanding
Absolutely. Ali kills it in any time setting and Dorff is doing an excellent supporting role.
The "disturbing doll" scene you mentioned is part of demonstrating the principle of the psychosphere and how the crime/s negatively influence the people around.
“It’s all one ghetto man, a giant gutter in outer space” that essentially became my motto when I was going thru a really rough low in life
When I had my two children and watched them grow as they pulled themselves by their bootstraps from the swamps of nothingness, one day I felt this dread, and a voice echoed in my brain: you have committed a crime against humanity by bringing your children into this gutter. I have never been able to shake off that dread. My children are 13 and 10.
Well, they are here now. The point of no return is crossed and nothing can ever change that. You shouldn't concern yourself too much with things you can't change. You should focus as much energy as possible on the things you can influence instead. In this case it means, being the best parent you possibly can be for them. Thats is just my humble opinion.
I’m glad you’ve come to that realization. But yes, they are already here. All you can do is love them and try to help them be happy and have the best life they can
Please don’t kill your kids
Oh stop being so dramatic.
@@rajyavardhansingh4491 Best Cope ever
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Well, once there was only dark. You ask me, the light’s winning
For now. Muhahahahah!
I cringed at that ending
@@theslyngl me too. High level cringe.
@@theslyngl You cringed? What are you? 10?
give it time, eventually every star will fade from existence
"Who are we kidding... IS ALL SEASON 1" HAHAHAHA!!! I'm watching closely season 3 and it's alright... but I can tell already, nothing will beat Season 1 Evah.
Let's just watch it again for consolation
Andromeda, i agree with your theory and wish to subscribe to your newsletter, but i think ill keep watching season 3, it might get better
You will watch season 1 again. Time is a flat circle.
I'm actually really liking Season 3. But that also might be more Ali and the themes of memory is pretty good
@@quentinlahure4262 3 is pretty good though. It's just not as super depressing but more about time
In my opinion, season 1 is good, but is impacted by the all too common overreaction by the internet as being this untouchable masterpiece. One could say that Nic only had one good story in him, or the team that made subsequent series aren't the same, including many directors for season 2, none of whom was Cary Fukanaga who directed all of season 1. However, the way I see it, season 1 was praised for it's tone, but those same people dissatisfied the ending's vague conclusions. They then turned around and hated on season 2 because it wasn't as "mysterious," then wrapped everything nicely. This is art, so it's subjective, but I would wager that people who never heard of True Detective and watched season 2 first, followed by season 1 would enjoy both and the preference for the better one would be more even. Another option is if people were shown season 1 called True Detective and season 2 called "Dirty California" or something we'd see more people that like both because they wouldn't compare them. They're anthology series with no ties to each other, but people can't stop linking them. I think we don't see as much of the same reaction from AHS and Fargo because they don't have the same production value and and more importantly, they keep something that carries over from each series to the next. With AHS is most of the cast and the horror theme, while with Fargo the general ambience, right down to the settings.
I think season 1 only stands out for three reasons: it was something "different" from a mainstream perspective, no one expected McConaughey to be that good and people would have rather seen season 2 be a continuation of season 1 to see if they were right about their own hypotheses regarding the ambiguity of season 1. So I don't think people will ever be satisfied with whatever they do from here on out. If season 4 came back with the same cast/crew and tied the story together, people would complain. If they told a different story with the same cast/crew, people would complain. Personally, both season 1 and season 2 were well acted and told interesting stories with interesting characters. In fact, I cared more about the characters from season 2 and more about the story from season 1. But really, I think if people are being consistent and analytical, they would admit that the first 4-5 episodes of season 1 started with an intense excitement that the rest of the entire show doesn't quite live up to. I've still enjoyed everything, because I keep it all in perspective.
The most philosophical tele series of recent time. Brilliant and existential. I recommend reading, Conspiracy Against the Human Race.
Antinatalism is how peak ethics looks like.
Do you wish to be.. Ethical? Do you wish to become ethical quickly?
Edgy, bruh
@@AlexGordonMusiccope
What the doll scene shows is Marty's denial as rust said is the difference btw him and Marty. If Marty instead of denying it talked to his daughter maybe she wouldn't have drawn that picture in the class but he denied it's seriousness again while Maggie was still worried. Eventually, when his daughter gets caught with two boys Marty gets pissed off and beat up the two boys denying he could have stopped it. Think how different would be Maggie's or Rust's reaction would be if the saw their kids do the exact same thing with the dolls.
Thank you for: having the integrity to check out the issues with Better Help, the courage to address them in this venue, the compassion to express it as you have, and the balls to make a stand about it. Holy shit you guys rock. *bro hug*
2020: this isn't a planet, it's someone's memory of a planet.
Memories fading...
🔫,, What's that Nietzsche ? Shut the f*ck up!"
Really appreciate the openness in discussing your sponsor. Didn't even know about the issue really, but I am glad to see this level of ethical concern with what you associate your channel with. We need more of this, everywhere. Thanks.
Great episode.
I am also very pleased to see that that you are promoting avenues for better mental health. That is amazing.
But in the end, what this video isn't getting is what storytelling is about: a character's transformation. He goes from nihilist to "we are all connected" he died and came back, with a whole different perspective. So it is a positive transformation.
Better help is only a scheme to suck money out of people. I unsubbed.
Here's the thing Rust wants to be nihilistic, but can't stop fighting for good. And the light wins out in the end. That says something true about life itself. When all is said and done we will find that life was a bunch of mediocrity punctuated by a few moments of true bliss and happiness. Those moments of connection with and in service of other people. This is always possible if you seek it out. Hope and light are like a quiet music constantly playing. You can move away from the music and cover your ears and find darkness and deceit but eventually you wander back.
It's just that even after all that Rust doesn't win only the main culprit is caught, people like Tuttle escape shot free even though they are just as guilty
I remember the first time I finished the series, I had a similar outlook about the ending. I found it frustrating that so many questions were left unanswered. Then, some time later, I re-watched the entire thing in a binge session, and I had my mind blown. Rust says it himself: "This is a world where nothing is solved." Concluding the story with a satisfying ending, all neatly wrapped up with a bow entirely defeats the story's message.
Doing god's work, Wisecrack
god is död
Chant:
Brotherbear is God
Ligotti is truly an underrated author
He is fantastic. Antinatalism is horseshit, but he's still a great writer.
@@beatnik23 No, it's not. We are not doing any sentient being a favor by creating it.
@@beatnik23 How is it horseshit. Look at the world and antinatalism should be self-evident to you lol.
Well it's subjective innit. I look at the world and it's a paradise, punctuated with extreme horror. We're not here to experience joy.
We are here to experience EVERYTHING.
Ligotti is everything I wanted LoveCraft to be. 🙌
Nietzsche of course never said, "Time is a flat circle." He did talk about "the external reoccurrence," the idea that everything happens over and over in exactly the same way over vast periods of time. However, it is not clear that he meant this literally. More likely, he meant that we should embrace our lives so much that we could we be happy if even if we knew that all of it would happen over and over, suffering and all. He referred to his philosophy as "strong pessimism," the ability to recognize how difficult life can be, and how meaningless it ultimately is, and still embrace it.
YES! This was a long time coming. Season 1 is easily some of the best drama I've ever watched. Season 3 not half bad either so far. I don't think Rustin and Martin can be outdone as characters though.
Bless you, Wisecrack Team, your videos are always insightful and thought-provoking, every time I watch I make notes and write down books you talk about. No other channel on TH-cam gives such satisfaction and at the same time such thirst to learn more. Thank you very much for your fantastic work!
The McConaissance😎
“There’s good in this world mr Frodo and it’s worth fighting for” Samwise said this and the quote always stuck with me, The saying it’s a part of my world view and I’ll continue to believe what Sam wise did no matter what.
True Detective Season 1 is the BEST TV series of all time.
Watched many of these True Detective analysis videos, this one is probably the most comprehensive. Well done!
I liked the ending of season 1. Season 1 was so good it made me like Matthew McConaughey as an actor.
I rewatched all of TD with my mom and I think s2 deserves a second watch and that vince vaughn is underrated IMO. He just can't escape the shadow of the bulk of his career
THEY FINALLY DID IT.
Ikr, was waiting forever for this video.
But will the mad man Jarred do an official video on the entire Metal Gear series?
Props to being transparent about your sponser.
Second season of True Detective is actually rich with philosophical meaning, and that meaning comes from the East. There was subreddit about perceiving Second season through the lense of Bardo Thodal, Tibetian Book of the Dead.
they clearly underrrate season 2.
Can you post it?
Finally someone speaking up for S2!
@@mayatrash www.reddit.com/r/TrueDetective/comments/6wlztq/true_detective_season_2_and_the_eastern_book_of/
Jared, this is not a part of the true detective video, but instead; I wanted to recognize your sponsorship better help. I'm genuinely proud of you for bringing them up. I have not used them, nor do I need to. I just wanted to recognize you for owning up to something you believe in and took action to address! Mad props Jared!! Much respect!
One thing I realized on my 5th or 6th rewatching of True Detective was Rust's character is very similar to other characters who are the protaginists in H.P. Lovecrafts universe where they usually suffer from hallucinations and sleep problems. Anyway after looking at that and the fact that the yellow king in carcosa is in their world I'm 100% certain true detective, at least season 1, is set in a Lovecraftian universe.
Hey that’s my comment in the video! I was so excited to watch it! Fantastic job! I loved seeing y’all’s take on this show. Thanks for making this! And including my comment!
I really appreciate the level of time and thought put into explaining the sponser.
Single best season of TV I’ve ever seen.
I'd say the whole point of season 1 is that we should not exist but yet we do and we are looking for a tiny spec in the abyss to latch onto and find some meaning for existence. For rust that was solving the 1995 murder amidst the abyss that is corrupt politicians and their consoiracies. The reason they opened the case again was to catch their guy not expose the illuminati of louisianna. After they have accomplished that rust feels a sense of fullfilment for the first time since his daugters death sparking a sense of futile optimism
Excellent take on the show. It was an interesting show, that ended with the predictable failure to deal with the effects of terror management theory's implications.
Philosophical pessimism is not simply "an unwillingness to move beyond the worse."
I am a pessimist and I enjoy as much pleasure as I responsibly can.
At its core it is an ontological inference that natural aversion and attraction states are asymmetrical and asymptotically weighted toward aversion.
In other words: natural life is pain, and optimism is a gambler's fallacy/selection bias that distorts our already flawed (problem of induction) model of the world.
It's not that the glass is half empty. The glass is always full. It's simply, naturally, almost entirely full of poison that will kill you no matter what you do.
It's a form of non-naive, or representational realism.
_"Hi, welcome to Better Help. I'm Rustin, and I"ll be your therapist today."_
I’ve watched this video over and over again.
the prophesized video... It has arrived.
Thank you for touching on the cosmic horror aspect this show. No one else seems to pick up on it. You forgot to mention that Colin Farrell's character actually goes to carcosa in season two where he meets his father.
I would recommend if you like True Detective to try out The Knick. It's really well done, but it seems like a lot of people passed it by. It's directed by Steven Soderbergh, stars Clive Owen, Andre Holland and Michael Angarano. Takes place in the early 20th century and is about the brink of modern medicine, so naturally quite bleak and dark like True Detective. A quote Thackery says in episode 1 reminds me of the philosophy expressed by Cohle during the ending of True Detective. Thack says "and many strokes, though with a little ax, hew down and fell the hardest timbered oak." I always think of the "Once there was only dark." bit that Cohle talks about. Both shows embrace a seemingly crushing pessimism, but line it with a small feeling of hope and progress along the way.
The Knick is amazing
I appreciate y'all taking responsibility for your sponsors, and being direct with your audience about your relationship to them.
I'm not familiar with Better Help, but I tried Talk Space, and that platform is pure garbage. Every 'therapist' I interacted with was either rude, unreliable, or just kind of bad at their job. The software was buggy, the billing was misrepresented, and the customer service was next to useless.
This is my favorite show of all time.
Of course I’m not including the second season, I hope that goes without saying.
This is my favorite show, and my birthday was today. Best gift ever
Do the philosophy of Mr. Rogers.
As a retired police detective from Jersey City NJ..True Detective is without doubt the most thought provoking and entertaining police drama I've ever seen..My experiences were never that demanding of one's soul. Most cases were very "solvable".. criminals were usually guilty as sin..and there were no existential questions involved. Even though I hoped there sometimes would be. It's sure there are plenty of investigators that have ot had at least one case
Coming from a person who have lived in Louisiana most of my life, I feel offended yet agreeable in their terms of an "outdoor asylum".
"time is a flat circle" 00:32 that dude rocks every time i see him.
The Benatar’s face around 13:00 is not his. He has never shown his face on media.
The face is what you get from a simple Google search. That guy made a youtube about antinatalism and why he's not an antinatalist lol
@@theslyngl No, I am *far* from being an antinatalist :-)
@@Anekantavad Hay there!
I appreciate you guys being very honest and explicit about your sponsorship with better help rather than jumping ship. Just wanted to let yall know that
Ughhh, I both love and hate when one of your videos comes out while I'm at work. Love because I know I have something awesome to watch after work, but hate because I have to wait XD
when I come home his videos are uploaded - I live in Europe :P
I’m at work rn lol
Find an office job where you can slack off
Been waiting for this one for quite awhile!
Maybe not related but i love how people think they have something in control and planned like caring for a child when nothing you do is in your control and everything can kill you
Excellent video essay. Great homework. And great execution.
Season 1 kicks ass start to finish.
So glad you talked about antinatalism. It’s the most ethical philosophy
I thought they ended season 1 in an excellent way. Cohl overcomes his pessimism after his brush with death and finally sees the light winning out over the darkness. A very fitting character arc for him.
To me I think, this show season 1 is really a true art of cosmic horror.
I agree, the best part is that all of the supernatural stuff that happens in the show can be explained by rust's drug taking during his undercover years.
I actually found the ending of season one quite a thoughtful reflection on the meaninglessness of violence: all season long we have been hyping up this Yellow King as some kind of demon, almost supernatural like a Lovecraftian Old One, but when we discover his identity it turns out he is just some ugly, stupid, worthless loser. The satanic symbols that terrified me all season long fell completely flat for me during the final confrontation since I now knew that the person who made them was just some dull, narcissistic asshole and nothing more. There was no more sense of dread or cosmic struggle, just the utter meaninglessness of the deaths of the victims, who were all infinitely more wonderful and important than the piece of shit that killed them.
Yes, we must have the antinatalism discussion!
Perhaps, but the problem is that the areas that have more problems with overreproduction (India and Africa, for example) are the areas where such concept isn't vilified. It's downright unthinkable.
Great episode as always Jared, and thanks for giving an honest and thoughtful appraisal of the sponsor at the end.
Give my boy Peter Wessel Zappfe some credit jeez
12:58 Not a picture of David Benatar. Why would you think it is?
I always thought the doll scene with the daughter was meant to represent another one of Marty’s ongoing decisions to not take a more active roll in his families life. This is also represented in the lawnmower scene with Russ, when Marty is reminded of things he is not managing at home, then responds with anger. Marty says in the interview at some point that he never changed, at least not in the right ways. He chose not to talk to his daughter about the sexual scene she acted out with the dolls, then when she acts on those fantasies at age 16, Marty responds with violence
Hey JuiceLabs I love your channel 😊
So glad you are back to recommending better help! I know others will likely jump down your throat over it, but fuck... over blown fears and expectations of the impossible are NOT a good reason to hate on a company that has helped so many people. Normal therapy does not work for everyone, we can't expect the first major online provider to be better than the traditional option they are trying to emulate...
Better help, better than NO help.
I think poverty is also a theme running through season 1.
14:22
If anyone is bothered by Rust's change in perspective in the end, they clearly can't understand what he has been through.
I don't think I've met a character like rusty on any tv series so far. Is amazing how the character is shown by the actor and completely made people fell in love of him even though he (as a character) doesn't show any kind of characteristics to like. I loved 1st season. left the series at the first 3 eps of the 2nd, but thinking about coming back to the 3rd.
Thanks Wisecrack for convincing my husband to finally check out True Detective after me recommending it to him for 2 years without success.
It says a lot about this series that an analysis of it should end with a help-hotline for borderline suicidals. It also says a lot about why cosmic horror is so popular in this society, build on christian mythology and filosophy.
I used Better Help and I had better luck venting to a small child in a Thanos mask on Omegle
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I really loved the show. So off beat. Dark and perfect
I thought this comment section would be "a place for silent reflection."
Thank's to those in the comments who recommended this show. I binged the first season the other day and it was unbelievable. Amazing. Rust is hard
There's no point in killing ourselves. We'll die anyway without putting in the effort.
Duh. The "point" is that it can be better to die sooner than later.
Yeah, rust's character speaks lot of word salad but at the end of the day he's a person who's suicidal but doesn't have the will to commit to it. So he comes up with his own theories on trying to explain the Universe. While it looks and sounds interesting. His character is deeply flawed
@@gabbar51ngh how does this make him deeply flawed?
That part at the end was solid. Really honest and genuine. I really appreciate that kind of business practice.
Haven't watched this yet. But I swear if this is ANOTHER nihilistic philosophy video....
Edit: ImAgInE MUh ShOcK.
So true
It is
Please don't quote PJW, even ironically
It isn't, it's mainly about pessimism, not nihilism. They aren't the same thing. Nihilism states that life is devoid of meaning. While that probably sounds pretty damn pessimistic, especially if you're used to religious cultures and beliefs, not all nihilists are pessimists, some find the acceptance of the lack of meaning to be very enjoyable, giving a sense of freedom that traditional structures lack.
Dude, you don't like that stuff getting even a YT playlist level of validation, you can just run along back to Spongebob.
My god, how much research has gone into these episodes? I'm 7 minutes in and I've already taken in so much information, amazing!
You need to make a videon bashing supernatural the best/worst serie i've seen
I second the hell out of this. Is it still ongoing, and if so how bad is it these days?
@@ConriDubhghail Man its so bad that is funny its just something like new star wars, you know? Its something like "we love to like him and laught at it" sobrenatural destroyed himself with the 10/11/12/13 seasons...bringing back people(obviously making us feel nothing about their deaths)...Idiot jokes out of nowhere...corny characters like, god doing nothing new Bobby. Goddamn man i've started to see season 14 cuz people told me "its like the early seasons" and i like ok. Man you know Zelda? Yea Theres something like a dark world in sobrenatural with the same people but different, you know that dark world usual stuff. I dropped the series in season 7 and say to you, if we start a conversation about *what went wrong* and about all the cringes...........................
@@UmDevoto I dropped it in Season 8, I think. I just got tired of the general lack of progression. I'll give the newer stuff a watch and see if I can laugh at it. Thanks for reminding me of it. Those first three seasons were really enjoyable.
All my thumbs up for you, for clarify and openly speak about the way you handled that better help sponsorship.
You are dead wrong about Season 2 lacking philosophical underpinnings. I don't think it comes accross on first watching, Season two is dense, with many layers of meaning. It's partly noir but it's mostly greek tragedy. Each of the four main characters represent a hero from a different greek tragedy, each is brought down by a flaw in their character (Except Antigone, who remains as a witness like her namesake). Also each character is in a different part of the journey towards dealing with being a violent person and the cycle that goes with that. In that respect they are somewhat like the same character at different points in time.
I probably go a bit against the grain in saying that cinematography aside, I thought Season 2 was a little bit better than Season 1. I think it deserves a philosophy of all it's own.
Don't get the witness/Antigone reference? Wasn't Antigone sacrificed by her father, the King, according to the greek tragedy?
By the way, I thought Season 2 was great as well, but not as good as the first though. I don't think any show is or ever will be✌
I love this show. Season 2 for different reasons but God damn the ending of that one tears your heart out. Just started getting around to season 3 now finally
Season 2 is literally so horrible. I couldn't even finish it. It dosen't feel like the same show at all not even close to s 1 or 3
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@@naveedclifton We need more support to get this video to happen, If you like it comment on videos. See yea in the outback my friend
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