Door Skins are NOT Created Equally: What They Don’t Tell You!

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  • @Armored86
    @Armored86 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Came across your channel looking for shaved firewall ideas on my 68 Camaro vert. Color me impressed. I truly appreciate your level of detail in everything you do and it has given me the faith and encouragement to do what I wanted to do. And luckily for me I started digging and found some remaining original repairs that I intend to fix properly.
    My father and I bought the 68 vert when I was still in highschool. We did a frame off resto replacing the rockers, quarters, and tail pan. I learned how to weld on this car almost two decades ago. Fast forward to 2023, I lost my father in January and managed to get the car back safe and sound. It was never quite finished though. Last it sat freshly painted with the drivetrain bolted up 13yr ago roughly. Time and mice have been busy accompanied by the moist climate in Michigan. So I’m restarting the restoration all over again from what was a custom restoration mainly factory based parts and turning it into a pro touring street car.
    I look forward to more videos from you and more helpful tips as well as ideas. Keep up the great work!

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Much appreciated! These cars hold some great memories indeed. Build version 2.0 will be equally special. Thanks for reaching out. 🍻

  • @MuscleCarMadness67
    @MuscleCarMadness67 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just found your channel - FANTASTIC content! My new favourite Camaro Build! 👏👏👏

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Awesome! Much appreciated and thanks for reaching out!

  • @carthageclassiccars
    @carthageclassiccars 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Great presentation, nice work and good tips about the brackets up top. This is also the same for a lot of Mopar door skins dyncorn has brackets and AMD doesn't. Probably best to never throw away parts when you cut them off the car for this exact reason. Also with panel bond be carful on the door skins with that stuff, if you decide to use it do NOT try and weld or modify the door gaps on the skins it will not work and be a complete mess down the road. This is the reason personally I never use panel bond on skins and plug weld them in place.

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Great insight. Thanks for sharing. Appreciate the kind words and the work that you do too? 👍

  • @autometaldirect
    @autometaldirect 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very good video and great points. I made sure to add to the description on the Camaro door skins that they do not come over reinforcements brackets or braces. Also be careful when using panel bond on door skins. Panel Bond makes it much harder to adjust gaps as needed when welding is required.

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad to hear. Appreciate the comments. Many thanks.

  • @gunnerjs68camaro
    @gunnerjs68camaro 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you for doing this video. As you probably remember, I was recently getting ready to skin my driver's door. I bought an AMD panel, but the stamped holes were not exactly in the right places, especially the mirror mounting holes. After a lot of deliberation I decided to use the new panel for patches, and I'm actually glad I did. I was able to fix the rusted lower corners, but the rest of the door was in superb condition. I really hated to tear off a door skin that was 90 percent perfect, and replace it with metal that wasn't stamped correctly, even if it was new metal. In the end, I'm happy with my door, but it is nowhere near as well done as yours. Your fab skills are phenomenal, and your videos show great details that other videos lack. Again, thank you for this video. There aren't a lot of Camaro door skinning videos out there, so this has become my new favorite!!

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Gunner. Very kind of you to say. Sounds like you made a good decision. Thanks 🍻

  • @MrDudlyDoright
    @MrDudlyDoright หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice video
    I just purchased a decent camera to start my own channel, after years of listening to friends and family encouraging me to do it I finally caved in and got a decent camera after getting ripped off on a C5 Corvette T56 rebuild I made the plunge to make my own video about the transmission to warn others about this supposedly reputable shop. I was in a hurry to get the car back on the road and did not want to do it myself at the time. I paid a lot of money and did not get a Transmission I could use.
    Nice work on the door! I will be checking out your other Videos.
    I agree with you NOT all aftermarket panels are the same! MOST are best used for cutting up to use as Patch panels in my opinion. especially after going to a reputable supplier of after market panels where I was sold a bunch of parts in person. Which I am glad I went their to pick them up myself as the Quarter panel skins they gave me over the counter when I inspected them it was Obvious both were different stamping s on closer inspection the lines were way off, they then allowed me to go in the back where we went through I kid you not at least 20 each there were many that were way off to many to count and only a few that were close enough. Thats when I changed my tune about after market panels and Only using them as Patch panels to repair originals. I will always Patch I will never remove a whole Panel to use a Cheap China made panel EVER! Not to mention China made panels are made of different hardness & thickness metal as well.
    Their are some good panels out their such as the Full panels and not skins BUT I am still a Firm be-leaver that a Cars Panels are only original ONCE! to replace full Quarter panels is a huge mistake! Original Quarters are welded to the Lower and upper Rocker panels First Before being welded to the Floor panels then the roof is installed.
    When the quarter panels are welded to the Lower rocker panels their are welds that cant be duplicated as you know removing original quarters. If you like I can share photos of quarters with the welds I am talking about.

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrDudlyDoright Sure, by all means. Paradise_Bay_Customs@icloud.com. Look forward to the pics and seeing your channel grow. 👍

  • @allanmarshall208
    @allanmarshall208 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love watching your progress and your thinking. As soon as the video is over, I am ready for the next one! My '68 Dart project is nearing the finish line. Just finished the front and rear seat recovering so they are ready to install as soon as the seat belts are in. The only welding I had to do on the car was a replacement driver side floorpan. I am still impressed by your work but thankful that I didn't have to do as much as you. Of course, your build is in a different league than mine. Keep up the excellent work and teach us all how to do it.

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very kind. Thanks so much. 68 Dart - very cool 😎 Sounds like a good one. 🍻

  • @Resurrectedtrucks
    @Resurrectedtrucks 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge from expert experience!!! I would love to do the same. I love learning new little tricks like setting the door gaps before your final weld, simple things like that are things that I love to learn. At 61 years old retiring from all Phases of high-end remodeling Construction when I was in Santa Barbara, now building my truck restoration business, but right now recovering from ankle surgery. When I was young and in construction, I saw old guys not wanting to learn new methods and new products to increase their business and productivity. I vowed that I would never be that old guy! I'm always eager to learn from the experiences of others. I feel that if I stop learning I start dying.

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good on ya! We think a like 👍 Appreciate you taking the time to reach out and comment. Much appreciated.

    • @David-rx5eo
      @David-rx5eo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have said for years that a day I learn something new is a good day. I am 65 and still learning.

  • @idaho2ndgens240
    @idaho2ndgens240 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oh, I forgot to comment on your idea of doing full quarters now. Well, my 70 Camaro build came to the same crossroad. I chose to do full rear quarters on both sides and found a lot of rust underneath that I was able to fix with the whole quarter off. One thing that was interesting was one of the quarters was NOS and one was AMD. Both fit the same except for the door bolt holes were not the same. Fixed that.

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cool. I’ve committed to the quarter replacement but for whatever reason I’m reluctant to do it. New territory for me for sure. A good buddy thinks I’m crazy because the current ones are in good shape. Like you said, it will be great to get access to what’s underneath. 🍻

  • @Chevchild
    @Chevchild 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The fit before welding or panel bonding is a good tip, thanks!

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks. Appreciate the comment. 👍

  • @unclemarksdiyauto
    @unclemarksdiyauto 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Smart idea not welding or glueing door panels on yet. I never would have thought of the extra adjustment you can make to the panel first.

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Appreciate the comment. Will be checking out your channel. 👍

  • @pamdunn8454
    @pamdunn8454 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    who says you can over think things you covered every possible trick or fix - you nailed it , thanks for sharing

  • @warrengee-f9l
    @warrengee-f9l 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    back in the late 90s GM was still stamping out all square body P/U body parts in Mexico & they were cheaper than repro
    there were so many trucks still world wide it was worth it for them .... dont know if they still are

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know some who chase original GM stampings for 60s muscle cars. Getting more rare and equally pricey. 🤪 Appreciate the comment. Thanks!

  • @DoubleRRestorations
    @DoubleRRestorations 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As always love the attention to detail. The Lizard Skin works great. I wish I had used it on my 72 doors. I didn't find out about it until later. I'm planning on welding mine too.

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! My first time using Lizard Skin… Really like it, easy to use, cleans up pretty easy.

  • @VinylVillageGarage
    @VinylVillageGarage 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yup been burned by that on my 1969 bird. One has then brace on top the other didn’t i got one from AMD and other was OER. Sad part the AMD cost more and missing the bracket
    I love the lizard skin product, easy to use and clean up when done

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Crazy… There’s no accountability - probably why they are all short of details. Agree, my first time using Lizard Skin, very happy with it. Appreciate the comment and the view. 👍

  • @hickeyskustomresto
    @hickeyskustomresto 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Flushed in handles is one thing, but those kendiggit handles would make a "lady" blush.
    I'd stick to the originals too

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂 Good one! Yeah not a fan of those flush handles. Thanks for commenting - appreciate it! Thanks.

  • @johnpetersen8116
    @johnpetersen8116 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very well done, edited and presented. Very informative for any restoration

  • @Superior_Autos_Motorcycles
    @Superior_Autos_Motorcycles 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really enjoyed your video so I subscribed and liked it . I’m an old hot rodder that uses great info like yours to impress my son with my capability’s.

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Awesome! Thanks. Appreciate the comment and the support. Go dad go! 👍

  • @roberteast4160
    @roberteast4160 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bought a 1969 Camaro from a close friend. He had bought alot of repo parts for goodmark. As I stated put it all together the driver's side quarter was off about an inch.Big issues became just even bigger. Stay away from goodmark stuff.

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Appreciate the heads up 👍 Thanks for commenting.

    • @Mikere5
      @Mikere5 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      RepRo not repo, that means repossession

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I always say “repop” for reproduction

  • @idaho2ndgens240
    @idaho2ndgens240 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great comparison video. Wondering what your thoughts were on using Rivet Nuts on securing the mirror bracket instead of welding nuts on the back? Thanks and keep your content coming.

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Appreciate it - thanks! Riv nuts better than sheet metal screws for sure especially through one layer of 18 gauge sheet metal.

  • @roym.9875
    @roym.9875 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The lizard skin sure kills the resonance of that door skin. I wonder how that adds to the quietness of the ride, when rolling down the highway? I'm working on a 73 Firebird Formula. It's on a rotisserie and I'm doing some sheet metal patches on the body.

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah that’s exactly what I alluded to in the video… Resonance is one thing, sound absorption and sound insulation is another. Killing resonance will definitely help but will only get you so far. My 2 cents 🤪. Will be doing more on that front in the future. Appreciate the comment. Thanks. 👍

  • @Firebrosgarage
    @Firebrosgarage 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another great one keep up the good work.

  • @freemanautomotivedesign8536
    @freemanautomotivedesign8536 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Working on ford gm and mopar , i find whats a good part for a mopar then for a gm or ford might be better from another company. it like they do a better job with one car but not so good with anothar.

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Crazy. At least now a days people can share their experience to help inform others. Appreciate the comment. Thanks for connecting. 👍

  • @donaldgilbreath4200
    @donaldgilbreath4200 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm working on a 77 Volare. Needs a lot of body work. Lots of cancer on the driver's side rocker and wheel well..

  • @Sideways117
    @Sideways117 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    man i wish you would have weighted the skins before and after the application of lizard skin.

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When I was done and lifted the skin I thought the same thing. Too late by then. Noticeably heavier… A pound or two for sure. Appreciate the support. 👍

  • @charlieseidelmann6702
    @charlieseidelmann6702 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another great video, Ken, a great throwback picture of the stud driving that flashy red Camaro-(could have been me in a 68 I owned👍😂😎). Question: are you concerned that the vent window frame on the passenger side is a visual obstruction?

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Charlie 😂 I had a mirror there back in the day and never had an issue - don’t foresee a problem now but time will tell? How’s your build coming along?

    • @charlieseidelmann6702
      @charlieseidelmann6702 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ParadiseBayCustoms getting there, Ken. It’s on four wheel now, and planning a trial of the front clip pretty soon. Then welding the dash panel in.

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@charlieseidelmann6702 Awesome 👏 Look forward to seeing it.

  • @fuffoon
    @fuffoon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So there is a difference between the 80 dollar and 280 dollar piece? I noticed that too. Dierdrich is not the same as OEM VW.

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not familiar with Dierdrich? Appreciate the comment… Thanks for sharing. 👍

  • @hickeyskustomresto
    @hickeyskustomresto 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pre fitting the door prior to welding is a good idea, I had to remove a skin on a sport satellite that another shop welded on and then refused to correct. It was a b¡+€h but I actually saved the skin as they didn't do a great job of installing it either. And just like that I made a new good customer with multiple cars

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Right on! 👍 Great to hear. Thanks for sharing and watching. 🍻

  • @mugizoro47
    @mugizoro47 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What welder do you use for this project?

  • @michaellaughlin8457
    @michaellaughlin8457 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    so saying stick with you got and fix the panels or go to the junkyard for a original replacement?! 🤷‍♂️🤔👍

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m happy with the Dynacorn skins. Don’t think junkyard (at least around here) would be an option. I’ve seen some do well with aftermarket replacement full doors, they’re pricey but a timesaver. Whatever makes sense for you. 👍 😁

  • @ParadiseByDesign
    @ParadiseByDesign 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi. Working on dinner! 😂

  • @GoGoGarage
    @GoGoGarage 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Had problems with aftermarket doors and fenders.

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I didn’t want to risk it. That’s why I put the work into the shells. Hope all is well with you. 👍

  • @samg5543
    @samg5543 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    why did you remove the e-coat inside the skin?

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I found it can be suspect at times. This way I’m confident with my base epoxy layer. A little extra work but I’n not paying myself by the hour. 😂 Thanks for reaching out!

  • @knutarneaakra6013
    @knutarneaakra6013 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Funny, peugeot and citroen body parts allways fits perfectly within 0.3 mm. Why not usa parts?😮

  • @noampitlik2332
    @noampitlik2332 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember Belden made good stuff.

  • @allenwoolsey
    @allenwoolsey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Haven’t seen a video from you in a long while. How is the build coming along? New video coming soon??

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey Allen! Yeah been enjoying our short Canadian summer. Started to clean out the shop getting prepped for our long winter so I can hop back on the build. I’m about to strip my front end components to see what I’ve got to work with - that video about half done. Hope to have it out in a couple/few weeks. Thanks for checking in 👍 How’s your beauty shaking out - love the colour BTW 😍

    • @allenwoolsey
      @allenwoolsey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠ I’m glad to hear you got to enjoy the summer. I was hoping you hadn’t stopped making content cause your build is definitely one of a kind. I can’t wait to see it all come together. Thanks for the compliment on my paint color. I smile every day I see my car 😎 Looking for to seeing a new video from you soon!!

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’d be smiling too! Thanks bud - looking forward to your next vid drop too! 🍻

  • @MrFireman164
    @MrFireman164 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi 😊

  • @Kuhlhaus
    @Kuhlhaus 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    👏👏👏

  • @DarrelSpindler
    @DarrelSpindler 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm working on a 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass one owner car me I'm retired just a project for me

  • @DarinTraffie-ig9fz
    @DarinTraffie-ig9fz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I work at a freight company n ship body parts if people knew how shitty the body parts are for their 50 120 thousand dollar cars they would stop buying new

  • @Whateva67
    @Whateva67 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It’s pretty sad that so much more money goes into vehicle restorations than the car cost when it was new, hell,you probably spent more fixing that one door alone than the car cost new in the showroom. It’s also a shame that the old cars that we love rusted out so bad,even in the early 80s some of these cars were only 10-15 years old and were rotted out beyond belief. Im a car guy but I would never spend the crazy amounts of money it takes to get these cars looking good again.

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’ll say. Costs are “kookoo for cocopops” crazy 🤪. I enjoy it so there’s a different value equation at play but sometimes I wonder. Appreciate the comment. Many thanks.

    • @Whateva67
      @Whateva67 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ParadiseBayCustoms I’m not even dissing on guys like you or guys that love their old classics, I think it’s great what you do. I used to have a 72 lemans back in the 80s and you could get body panels at auto wreckers for dirt cheap then get the car painted for under 2000 bucks. My buddy just had a 78 Chevy truck almost fully restored at a place, the guy had it for over a year and charged almost 50 grand Canadian for the work, it needed a lot of parts and metal work done but geez, I couldn’t do it. I gave away a perfectly straight rust free 79 blazer body to an auto wrecker 19 years ago because I couldn’t find a buyer even at only 3000 dollars, didn’t want to drive it anymore because it sucked back too much fuel. Now I wish I still had it because they’re getting good money these days, hindsight is a bitch😀

    • @Whateva67
      @Whateva67 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ParadiseBayCustoms me again. There’s a guy in my town that has a real 1970 GTO Judge that’s been sitting under tarps since at least 1988 rotting away and I asked him if he wanted to sell it back in the day because you could still get cars like that relatively cheap in the 80s. It hasn’t seen the sun in the last 36 years, I stopped in two years ago but he didn’t answer the door. It’s a shame because he’s just that much older and less inclined to do anything with the car than he was back then. One less Goat on the road🥲. Greetings from British Columbia

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Whateva67 No kidding! Trucks, Blazers and Broncos are the new hot rods… CRAZY prices. I use to have an old IH Scout II and I’ve been looking for a good project candidate but what they want for a rusted out carcass I don’t think I’ll be getting one anytime soon. 🍻

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Whateva67 That’s a shame. Go Jets Go!

  • @youtube-handle-are-a-joke
    @youtube-handle-are-a-joke 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    People should stay away from cheap chinese reproduction parts what they save on part cost, they will spend more in body work and time. Now if you ever do Porsche's, the main supplier has quite a bit of disparity in their parts, you can get a 1/4 panel that fits well and spend 8h replacing and the next one will fit poorly and you'll spend 12h replacing. Jaguar parts are an other headache, from the same supplier, at the same cost and part number you can get a physicaly correct part and one where features will be missing and/or of an incorrect gage, sometimes they fit sometimes they don't. On the E Type convertible 1/4 panels the shape of the repop one is so different than the original one that you can't replace just one or the car looks crooked.
    When you do these jobs professionnaly try to make an estimate. You can spend almost twice the time with the same parts from the same supplier or manufacturer.

    • @ParadiseBayCustoms
      @ParadiseBayCustoms  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great insight! Thanks for sharing. Much appreciated. 👏

  • @Thumper-qe7nu
    @Thumper-qe7nu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dont cry about it. Quit crying and make it fit. If you know what you're doing!? Fix it. BooHoo