DISCLAIMER!! I no longer am recommending Remington Thunderbolts. The level of leading is so high it ended up ruining my barrel. I have heard this from many other people so please keep that in mind. I like Aguila super extras which run good and dont lead up your barrel from non jacketed ammunition.
Totally agree. I quit using Thunderbolts about 15 years ago. They messed up my nephews .22 rifle so bad I had to clean it out every 30 rounds or so. Like all gritty inside the gun.
The 2 extra sights they send out with it are actually how you adjust for elevation. The 3 sights are at different heights. Shoot with all 3 and take the one that works best for you
I bought a Sig Mosquito (same gun) in 2015. In the beginning it jammed and had problems. But since I liked the feel of it, I kept shooting it. Got past a 1000 rounds and it was working flawless. In fact, Sig said it would take at least 500 rounds to break-in. Then a guy at the range talked me into selling it. Wish I had not sold it. So last week I bought the Firefly. Will probably need to break this one in same as the other.
Very good review! I am especially glad you did a 3000 round review of this pistol. I recently purchased a GSG Fire-Fly. After shooting it about 100 rounds, I contacted the customer service tech-rep. at ATI in South Carolina with several questions. The tech-rep. told me that the pistol cannot be considered fully "broken-in" until AT LEAST 800 to 1000 rounds are fired. This came as a surprise to me! Therefore, while fun and enjoyable to watch, a LOT of the other videos on the Fire-Fly are shot "brand new" and "just out of the box". Unfortunately, such reviews are not a true measure of the pistol because the tests are conducted without the pistol being fully broken-in. This easily leads to erroneous conclusions and false assumptions on the capabilities of the Firefly pistol. I also agree with your comments on Remington ammunition. I do not buy it anymore, it is quite dirty. Recently, I have had good performance with Aquila Super High-Velocity, 1280 fps, 38gr. hollow point, cu- plated. I buy it from the local Rural King store and it shoots well in my FireFly, S&W 22A-1 and Browning Buckmark UFX Camper. Also, I really like the de-cocking leaver feature on the FireFly. The trigger pull in the SA mode is fine for me. However, the DA mode trigger is quite stiff. I do not try to shoot it in the DA mode. Of course, the Fire Fly SA trigger pull cannot fairly be compared to the S&W 22A-1 or the Buck Mark. However, for an inexpensive pistol, in SA mode that is great fun to shoot, it delivers fairly good accuracy and is acceptable to me.
I have to be honest, I just got mine a few days ago. Mine isn't suppressor ready. I was originally looking for the P17, but just about every shop I went to, they were sold out. I went to an outdoor sports store, and there was a MASSIVE amount of gun buyers so I was trying to get through the crowd to look at what they had. I noticed that they didn't have the P17, but they did have a TX22, but before I got to the actual counter, the salesman got the gun for someone else since they ended up buying it. I happened to look over next to where the TX22 was and seen this lonely pistol laying there. I asked to handle it and really liked the design and feel of it better than the P17. Only wished it came with 2 extra mags, but most handguns usually only have 1 mag. It's nice and small, but not purse sized. It uses 22lr ammo, which is cheaper on the wallet. It has a softer spring in the box for slower velocity ammo. It was under $250. I think it'll make a fine everyday carry since it is lighter weight than most 9mm or bigger handguns. Is it perfect, no. No gun is. Is it just for target plinking, meh, could be. Can you use it as an everyday carry? YES. It doesn't have to pop heads like a water balloon to get someone to stop. It just has to stop the aggressor. .22lr can do that. I was also thinking about getting a Hi-Point Carbine AND matching pistol. I may do that a little later. In the mean time, since I don't have a gun nut ego about size of bullets, I think I'll be happy with mine.
I picked up a black & tan version last winter. Most of what i had read was it was fussy at first with ammo. Mine definitely is. It runs CCI, Blazer & Golden bullets well. It doesn't like Winchester or Federals at all... I'm using the spring that came in it so I figure that would be the dif. I enjoy it. Nice gun. I've swapped out the magazine follower to increase the capacity to 14.. Good review.. Thanks
Nice video 👍 I just ordered the same threaded barrel version in OD green. Looking forward to shooting it. Also gonna order about 4 extra mags. Keep it up!
File or lightly grind w Dremel the lip of lower breach to match ramp, polish the ramp and the breach best you can, and anyplace where the paint on the lower makes contact w upper, and it does wonders. Mine hates bulk ammo, fussy w Aguila, but a dream w Winchester XX, Remington, CCI and anything w a jacket.
I've heard of some older models having that issue. Mine came with a pretty beveled feed ramp and barrel matchup. Luckily I haven't had any feed issues, just low power ammo issues preventing the gun from even attempting to cycle a new round. Great tip though if rounds are not feeding and getting locked up 👍
Thank you for your very fair reviews of this gun. I have owned a Mosquito for many years and also own the newer Firefly. To me, these were never meant to be serious firearms but they do make excellent target shooting guns and guns for safety training and especially take down and cleaning which they need a lot. Failure to feed, failure to fire and failure to eject are all possible .22lr occurrences in any semi-automatic magazine fed pistol or rifle no matter who made the firearm or what it cost. That is part of the price of using the .22lr platform. Every semi automatic 22lr firearm I have shot or owned has experienced this. With the Mosquito, I threw away the high velocity spring after two magazines and that was after reading the manual carefully and using 36 to 40 grain/1250+ fps high velocity ammo. That spring was so stiff it did not allow the slide to fully go through its motion and stove piped almost every round. The standard velocity spring worked fine with the recommended ammo. I have since replaced that original spring with one from Taylor Tactical which works great. The Firefly supplied springs are more like the original standard velocity Sig spring. I did slightly enlarge the magazine lips by half a millimeter at the slug end which definitely has helped failure to feed along with keeping the bore ramp really clean. I clean and lube after every 200 rounds or so. The really heavy double action trigger pull to me is a safety feature. No one in their right mind would have deliberately designed this gun to be double action fired with 14 pound weight. These are really fun guns when they are sighted in, broken in and are used according to their original intention. If you are looking for an affordable, really reliable 22lr handgun or one that will not malfunction keep looking. Maybe the Taurus TX22 is as good as advertised. I haven't used one yet. I really like the Ruger SR22 but it will choke on ammo just like the rest of them. For now, I will keep enjoying these fun insects.
I agree 100% with your experience and thanks for the tips! I picked up a tx22 Friday so hopefully I can run it this week and see how it does. I still like the firefly/mosquito for what it is. It's a fun pinker once you get it dialed in 👍
This gun is a pile of trash that slide will just break right at the and end like my fathers just did I have spent lots of time re drawing up this dam thing and re machined an non casted 7075 aluminum slide for it it’s about to be rolling again who ever designed this junk should be slapped get a browning buck mark and just be set for Life with no issues seriously
when you switched to the lighter spring did you also go to std velocity ammo or continue with the hi velocity stuff. Just wondering if the hi velocity stuff would slam the slide back to hard with the lighter spring causing damage.
Also, dry firing without a safety that blocks the firing pin on a rim fire can also lead to the firing pin damaging the breach face; which can lead to failures longterm
Great video. My LGS sold me CCI Standard Velocity along with my firefly. I almost drove straight back to the store after my first range outing. My buddy had Thunderbolt and its running amazing.
I have thr mosquitoe,, the giybi bought it from, sold it as it ONLY liked CCI STINGERS. (Ammo crunch hit,he couldn't get any) I tried mini-mags. Not hot enough, 10.00 spring off ebay, it loves the cheep stuff now!
Hey guys, thanks for watching! The 3 different sights included are for different heights and the recoil spring in the gun is for hotter loads above 1250fps and the extra recoil spring is for standard pressure. Hope it helps!!
I'm going to give this a try. I haven't really paid a ton of attention to the muzzle velocity speeds of the rounds I use, but I know that just about anything that says "quiet" or "sub-sonic" I can guarantee won't cycle through any of my 22s worth a hill of beans. Interesting question though: is there any detriment or damage to the gun if you fire a hot round through it on the lighter spring? Or does it just recoil differently?
You know I was thinking the same thing. It may be harsher on the slide but I'm not positive. I was thinking maybe hot rounds with the lower spring should definitely do the trick but dont want to run the risk of breaking it. I'm going to look into that though!
Well shucks.... Looks like the short spring was what was installed when I got my gun so let's hope that it's just part of the break-in period and not an issue with the gun. I think I could really use polishing the slide, trigger and ramp to lighten the trigger up and ease in loading. I noticed also that my magazine has a really tight section where you have to push pretty hard to install the mag where it's nice and smooth on the SW compacts. It's actually not a bad thing and I've gotten used to it, but it's just something I noticed last night while handling it. I lightly filed the chamfers at the magazine well and tried to thin out the ribs and high spots on the inside of the well where the wear spots were appearing on the magazine itself. The spring is strong enough to eject the mag no problem, but it's similar to the TX22 in that it only just pushes it out of the well when inverted (superficial test, I know. Just trying to get it smooth as possible).
@@timt1346 I hear ya man. I heard the spring installed is for heavier loads and the one in the box is for lighter but it looks the opposite. Honestly I didnt even mess with the one in the box. May be worth a shot? I didnt polish anything and I think the new models come with a beveled feed ramp vs the old ones that are very harsh. Mine was fine in that area. That trigga should be like butta now 🤣👍. Always a nice upgrade!
I will give it a try just to get it out of my system (only takes a few seconds to swap it out once you get the takedown figured out). My trigger is really heavy. It could really use some help to get it down to maybe a 5#/10# split but it's usable in single action at what? 7lbs? Too much for my kid to like it but the trigger is comfortable. I can see some edges on the ramp that could use bring smoothed out, but it's pretty close to the SWs I own. Can't hurt to try in any regard. It's a cheap gun so I don't expect the world from it in normal state. With some tinkering it could be a good match to my other pistols. If not I could sell it and but something else.
@@aaronellson23 just the one that came with it I'm not sure whether they upgraded the spring but my one has never let me down with Blazer, or mini mags.
Nice video. I have the same gun with the OD green frame. However, I tried the Thunderbolts and the Winchester Super X first and could never get through a full mag with either. I switched to Mini Mag and have put just shy of 800 rounds through it with only one failure to fire.
Sweet! Seems like you just have to find what works for your particular one. I wish mini mags would run in mine because the thunderbolts lead up the barrel pretty bad. Thanks for stopping by!
I have this pistol too. It is ammo finicky. I was running Federal Auto (tan box) and I was lucky if the slide cycled for two or three shots. I'm going to run Golden bullets in it next time. It's a very nice pistol, light weight and fun to shoot. I also had the same issues with the same ammo in my ISSC Raptor. Fun gun, but needs a higher velocity ammo.
Magazine release can be switched to the opposite side of the firearm for leftys. I bought one about 1 year ago, as obviously the ammo is much more affordable in that format than 9mm all of the time. Quickly becoming my favorite plinking weapon.
I have had a gsg 522 rifle for several years and love it, I just might have to purchase this handgun. thank for this video and I will be smashing that red button to see more from you!!
I have exactly the same opinion of this firearm including the issues noted. My enjoyment of this pistol outweighs the irritation of the numerous Hang/misfires. For self defense training it affords great practice for clearing malfunctions. I’m not being sarcastic. I truly love this pistol. I don’t find the trigger to be a deterrent in single or Double action. It is a perfect training companion for my P225A1. Thank you for a frank and what-you-see-is-what-you-get review. I also was worried that I got lemon. I’m just going to enjoy Shooting it now. Do you think polishing the friction prone surfaces would help?
Thanks for the kind words! That p225A1 is a sweet pistol!! I have heard polishing the feed ramp helps on older models helps. Mine is relatively new and had a nice bevel from the ramp to the breech face so I left it alone. Some older ones had a bump that could cause feeding issues. I also clean the mags after every outing as they start to get finnicky after a couple or few hundred rounds. For what it's worth, I usually use wilson combat grease on my guns but use oil on this guy to help give it more friction. I would say try swapping out the recoil springs with the other one provided for average speed ammo. I left the spring that it came with in it and have been using hot ammo with over 1250 fps and it's been running almost flawless (less than 1% failure rate). Hope it helps for what its worth. And I enjoy the training aspect of it as well 👍Thanks for tuning in!!
Fun With Guns: Thank for the follow up and I’ll raise you one. Just got back from the Range. Last night I polished not only the feed ramp but the slide surface that contacts the hammer and the edges of the mag openings as well. Picked up a bulk pack of Rem Golden Bullets (1280fps) on the way. Gun ran 100% better until around the 300rd Mark then started failing. I soaked the feed and chamber area with Rem Gun Oil and that helped a lot. Called it a day after about another 50rds. I will thoroughly clean both mags before taking it out again. I am a 60+ yr old shooter and time has taken its toll on my eyesight. Nonetheless the accuracy of this pistol is nothing less than crazy. Thanks for the tip. -B
I was able to fix the hang/misfire. I took the mags apart and found out the plastic piece in the mag was jagged. I sanded them smooth and have never had a hang/misfire yet.
You know I love my 22's the thing that sucks is cheap 22 ammo is generally crap. So once you buy good quality ammo it's not as much bang for the buck as say Tulammo 9mm
Very true! Luckily thunderbolts are pretty cheap at walmart but they lead the crud out of this things barrel. The only other round i think would work (that I know of) with this pistol is CCI Stingers which arent cheap. Also you cant beat the satisfaction you get from 9mm vs 22!
i was having light striker fire with a out of the box firefly. the safety spring ball or pin was hindering it. fix.. the side screws of the safety needed tightening and it good to go. yes keep a eye on it.
Thanks, it's a fun plinker if you shoot hot ammo out of it. I also just posted a review on the GSG 522 SD. It's a MP5 clone in 22lr. They are really fun when they run but I think there are better options out there such as the Walther H&K MP5 22, M&P15 22 and the taurus tx22 for around the same prices. Thanks for watching brother! Have a good one too!
good pistol.. gotta go through the ammo to find what runs and what dont.. like all the safety features..used it to break in my kids to gun safety and marksman ship.. trained them to use as home defense as well.. ten in the mag and one in the tube.. taught them to fire with hammer at rest, first pull is harder then the next ten.. but adrenalin will get you through that..
Just got back from the Indoor Range after putting in the longer recoil spring supposedly for standard loads. I shot Aquila round nose 40 grain and it seemed to like it; also shot Winchester Super X and no issues with that as well. When I tried the Federal Match Shot it was inconsistent on cycling the round. The accuracy at 10 years for all ammo was very good. I like the the controls on this gun and especially like the de-cocker and overall feel of the gun in my hand. We are all fortunate to have such a variety of 22lr to choose from. My favorites are the Taurus TX22, the Ruger SR22, and the S&W M&P 22 Compact. Also I think the Bersa Thunder, the Walther P22Q, and the Ruger LCPII 22lr are worth consideration.
I have seen some models listed as "polymer frame", but the vast majority are zinc/aluminum alloy frame and slide. All the ones I saw listed as polymer frame have been black and they are the only ones listed under $200. The average price is between $220 and $240. in the US.
Just picked one up. Haven't shot it yet, but I will be soon. I feel I way over-paid for it ($399) but .22LR pistols are getting harder to find for an everyday backup carry gun. I have high hopes for this tool considering the price. $100 more and I could've gotten a Glock 44 or for around the same price or less a Ruger SR22.
@@Mike-gi1dk I have a Smith and Wesson SD40 as my primary and the same week after getting my GSG, I did end up finding a Ruger SR22 which I absolutely love. The Firefly turned out to be trash. I love .22s but wouldn't have one as a primary. In a worst case scenario though, they'll do the trick and don't add too much extra weight. I do think I'm done buying guns for a while though. I have everything I need for now.
Mine loves the Remington golden bullet & thunder bolt, hates Federal & Winchester. Shot 2000+ rounds out of box without any cleaning, wasn't even that dirty and no leading of the barrel
@@FunWithGuns I've shoot around 1500 rounds of thunderbolts through my Firefly, maybe 2 to 3 mf and one sp. I've also shot close to 5k+ rounds of thunderbolts through my Beretta 87 and Sig P938 no issues and when cleaning barrel no build up. However I will watch and report back. I have close to 25k of thunderbolts. Hard to get anything else right now.
Great review and explanation and thoughts of malfunction, I wish I found your review months ago about ammo for my gsg,I thought to it was gun but found out by mistake it was cheap low powered ammo giving me problems. 👍👍👍👍
Thanks for the great review, and lol that Brothers shirt is awesome. I absolutely love the look of this pistol, but I feel like it's a headache trap just waiting for me. I've really been wanting a 22lr pistol & AR so I can still shoot on the cheap, but they need to shoot & run reliably. Because of that I'm gonna go with the Taurus TX-22 once I have the $, and can find 1. I've heard the M&P pistols run reliably also, but held 1 at my local gs and wasn't crazy about it. It just felt like a toy it was so small. I have pretty big hands tho so that may be part of it. So far it's looking like a TX-22 for pistol, and the M&P 15/22 for an AR
Thanks for the kind words. I agree completely on your choices. Both of those are solid. The tx22 is a better pistol for sure and I felt the same about my buddies m&p 22 compact.
Yeah I really wish S&W had a full size 22lr offering because I would go that route if they did. It's not like most people are looking for a 22lr carry gun
Have had this for awhile but I experience the same issues as the sig mosquito, anything other than CCI's dont want to feed properly, even polished the feed ramp.
Does it matter what velocity you use? Is the slide cycling far enough to rechamber? I know some of the older ones had a bump from where the feed ramp met the barrel and I've heard some people say slightly sanding and polishing that area helped.
Just picked one up yesterday. Right out of the gates it had a bunch of misfires and stovepipes. I could reload the ammo and it would shoot, so I'm not sure if it's bad ammo or what? I have to MP22 compacts and they run like garbage as well. Can't seem to either find good enough ammo or how to keep them operable like I had hoped. I will try the lighter spring like you mentioned. I still have to clean the manufacturing sludge out of it so I honestly wasn't expecting it to run perfect. I also think maybe the cold had something to do with it. That being said, once I got into a decent groove with it, the rounds fed a little better and the grouping started to tighten up. I definitely like the feel of this "mini P226" as it's very similar to my MK25 (same desert team color too!). Hopefully I'll get a chance to try again soon. I think I'll go back to aguila when this case of rounds runs out. I've tried mini mags, stingers, Aguila standard, Federal, and just about every other box of stuff available at Bass Pro and Green top. Can't say any of them run any better than the next. They all hang up in the SWs even if I'm shooting them. It's 10X worse if the kids shoot. Can't limp-wrist these little semi-auto 22s.
@@randomemail3936 true, but it was listed for more than $100 on top of what I paid for the little GSG. It's honestly not a terrible little gun but you kind of get what you pay for.
Remember it is a polymer frame with a metal slide, it wont run consistently until you run a couple hundred rounds through it and get her hot. Some heat is always needed to really marry parts together, especially when they are made of different materials
I ended up running a few hundred rounds through the gun and it only got worse. I traded it in for a P365SAS and then bought a TX22. Not a single misfire or anything wrong with the Taurus. It's probably my best shooting gun. 4 mags and 16rds each really lets you have some fun with a 22!
The sights are not positive. They do have some slop to them. You got to (never seize) the upper rear slide where it slides over the hammer. Those two contact areas are not really hardened.
I love the p226 flat form but the price is kind of what’s leaning me on to a glock or m&p. But aside from that i want a budget pistol like the taurus g3 or this firefly. Great video btw
If you dont have a self defense pistol yet I would get that first. If you're looking for a reliable 22lr trainer type I would get a taurus tx22 or the m&p 22lr before one of these. They will be much more reliable with a variety of ammo. If I had to pick between this and a G3 or G2 i would go with one of the taurus. Just feel like you get a lot more for your money (a self defense pistol vs a plinker). Oh and my main sd pistol is a glock 17 bc the p226 is a bit pricey. Dont get me wrong it's still on my list of guns I want to get but it is not cheap!
I’d keep snap caps in that all the time & dryfire the shit outta that badboy if my main carry gun was a Sig P226. Sweet review bro! I see you’ve taken your channel to the next level now.
Thanks man, I eventually want to get a p226 so that's a cool idea! Thanks for noticing. Got a couple more things I want to do to enhance the videos but mainly just wanted to make them more enjoyable and or tolerable 🤣
Fun With Guns My buddy at a local range said he’d be willing to help anyway he could with my channel. I may start filming a bit there. To be honest. I shoot sometimes. Just too lazy to record & edit. Lol. Thanks for doing what you’re doing!
@@mr_fnh Thanks man, means a lot! You should definitely take him up on it. Totally understand though, it can take up a lot of time. Looking forward to some new vids from ya brother 🤙
Just ordered mine from there! Looking forward to getting it. My daily carry is the sig p365 but with 9mm so pricey I am getting this one to substitute the 9 for training and well just plinking at the range without blowing through pricey ammo. Local shop has a ton of .22 LR but only very expensive 9mm
Just be careful, thunderbolts leaded up my barrel so bad my cleaning rod got stuck and Remington had to buy me a new one. I've had good luck with Aguila Super Extras and CCI Stingers without leading.
After 4,000 shots the backlash on the barrel appeared. I shot mainly with thunderbolts and S&B HV The only ammunition on which it almost did not jam. Any idea how to fix this problem?
Please please remember this, guns CAN kill you. If you get this gun just be careful. If your not it could be very serious. Just have fun but follow precautions. If something seems off and it is acting strange, dont just keep firing. Not very likely, but it is possible that something bad could happen. Just be careful but have fun!
I’m sorry, I really don’t wanna be a dick, but watching him lean so far forward on his Isosceles stance to handle the immense recoil of a .22 is hilarious.
Lol. It is funny looking but just to explain why I do it, I train like I'll fight. Considering I put typically tens of thousands of rounds through my 22lrs I dont want to get lazy and learn bad habits. Repetition is key and acting lazy because you're shooting a 22 creates sloppy habits. Especially when you're shooting more rounds through them than your primary gun. I have caught myself and others doing so and always correct it.
I got a strongly disagree with you I had one that just misfired like crazy send it back to GSG or whoever the distributor wasn't the United States. They were kind enough to replace it, and a new one is just as crappy. Don't get me wrong it's a fun gun 22 caliber threaded barrel double action single action $200. But today for an example we shot three boxes of 50 and I'll bet there was an easy 25 unforward bullets that we picked up off the ground that we had malfunctions on. Yeah so is it a fun gun yeah would I recommend it to anybody no I don't think so. The Walther coat 1911 chambered in 22, I've had that since June of this pasture and I'll bet I put 2,500 rounds through it at least, it eats about anything I put in it. I noticed when it's dirty I start getting some malfunctions but that's pretty typical with any 22 pistol. It's funny when it's dirty the slide operates so slow you could actually see it moving, kind of an indication of maybe take it home and clean it LOL
Yes, after you load a round in the chamber it is single action for every shot unless you decock the hammer. Some people carry double action pistols decocked so they have a heavier initial trigger pull for additional safety in preventing accidental firing. I was just pointing out that the double action is extremely heavy and long and dont recommend it. Mainly just wanted to explain the trigger. All you have to do is not decock it to have single action for every shot but I know some people dont understand how double action works.
This is a cool option for a mouse gun 22lr but I really enjoy my tx22 for training and it is less expensive. Other good options are the browning Buckmark and ruger mk series. FN makes the 502 which is like your 509 but in 22 so there's a lot of good options out there depending on what you want.
I have the Walther (Umarex) Colt 1911 .22LR, but am still interested in another .22 LR because they are fun and cheap to shoot. The Ruger, Glock and S&W are too small for my liking. The FN is too expensive for a .22. That leaves me with the Firefly, Taurus, Sig P322, Walther PPQ .22 . I shot the Taurus and Sig and like the Sig much better. The Taurus TX22 gets good reviews, but I just didn't care for it. Since the Sig has 20 round mags, it's worth a bit more to me than the Walther PPQ and isn't really much more expensive when you add the 2nd mag you have to buy with the PPQ. If I buy the Firefly over the Sig and must use CCI ammo which is generally $.02/rd more expensive than other HV rounds, then pretty soon the cheap Firefly is no longer so cheap. The Remington Thunderbolts probably work well, before they foul the barrel, because they are both 40 grain and HV (1255 fps.) My question is how successful are the following ammos in the Firefly: 1) Aguila copper plated HV 40 g, 1255 FPS (should work well), 2) Remington Golden Bullet, either 36 or 40g, roughly 1250 fps, (also should work in 40g) 3) Armscor HP 36g, 1250 fps and 4) Federal copper plated HP, 36g, 1260 fps? The latter two may be too light? I have read the "blue box" Federal didn't work for some and they may mean #4. You indicated the Aguila Super Extras work. Anything else including those I listed?
The Remington golden bullets didn't have enough power to cycle mine. I haven't tried the armscor options. The super extras were perfect for it. It also comes with a lighter recoil spring which may help with the other options.
3000 rounds?? I can't get through a magazine with out FTF, FTE and having to drop the magazine to clear jams. Tried every type of ammo out there. Changed out the recoil spring too. What a POS lemon I got. Glad you got a good one.
They are finnicky arent they?! You should see the review I just did on the gsg 522 🤣. Light strike city!! They are made in Germany but not typical German quality. There are better options for $50 more.
I had this issue, turns out drifting the rear sight to far to the right can cause issues. Let me explain, the breachblock is actually held in place with the rear sight. Not a great system in itself. But if you are messing around and drift the sight far enough it can disengage from the breach block and cause feeding issues, failures to feed, double feeding, failures to return back into battery after firing and maybe more. I'd suggest taking it to a gunsmith, especially if you are having trouble recentering the rear sight. And dependeng on how hard you tried to recenter it you may need to order a couple parts. Hope this helps
I've got other comments on here but this video popped back up in my suggestions and as I've recently passed the 3000rnd mark with my personal firefly figured I'd slap another comment with things I've noticed. 1. The extra spring: a handy little feature I suppose but kinda impractical long term I feel. It takes time to change out the spring and I dont see me or many people toting the extra into the field just in case. Just find a round that works in yours with whichever spring and stick to it. 2. The grip: I noticed under fast deployment and heavy use the grip can shift a bit due to it being 2 halves rather than a solid piece. I fixed this by wrapping the grip in electrical tape a few layers thick, I also took the opportunity to add a chute cord lanyard loop using the tape as well. Idk how many of us use a lanyard on our field pistols during a hunt but its 10 bucks that will prevent you from losing a handgun longterm. 3. The rear sight: be careful about drifting the rear sight to far right as the rear sight drift screw also holds the breach block in place. Drifting it to far can result in the 2 becoming disconnected and can cause misfeeds, jams, and an assortment of other issues. And can be pricey to fix if you strip the drift screw trying to reattach the 2 as they are screwed together blind. 4.ammo: the thing definitely likes heavier ammo, 36gr or above. It takes a bit to move that slide.
@@FunWithGuns you should do a year later review for yours and let us know how shes holding up. If you love shooting your as much as I enjoy mine, i can only imagine how many rounds you've put through it in the 10 months since the video was posted.
🤣🤣🤣 my tripod doesnt go up very high so I was trying to make sure I was in the shot lol. Thanks for watching man! Also I do lean a tad low anyways probably because of my odd weight ratio 🤣
@@cheeseymann I believe the one installed is for heavier loads and the one in the box (the shorter one) is for lighter loads. Be careful as I believe they are tapered at one end and the wider end faces the back of the pistol and smaller end faces the muzzle. Hope this helps!
I actually sold it. For the price I would recommend a taurus tx22 since the price of these have gone up and the Taurus is more reliable for not much more.
No, I wish I could find some! Those have an impressive fps!! I tried golden bullets which gave a lot of issues. I would imagine those yellow jackets would perform just fine.
Yes, they are interchangeable. I called ATI and right now they have the non threaded barrel in stock, but they do not have the threaded barrel. You can go to their website and have them notify you when it's back in stock.
Ive absolutely always found cci ammo to be underpowered without ifs ands or buts, its junk. Thats not counting Stingers, can't say as they're too expensive for 22 ammo I won't buy it.
question i got gsg 1011 22 lr .i had sand the slide becouse the paint i bought new mags, recoil spring .guide rod before sanding do you have do this to this slide?
I didnt notice any issues with the coating and didnt have to do any sanding. Sorey to hear about that. I would suggest calling ATI. They have really good customer service.
Pss thunderbolts are NOT hotter than a stinger. Heavier, yes, but NOT hotter. In my mosquitoe,, she ONLY liked stingers, mini-mags and LESS wouldn't cycle. Anew 7.00 spring off ebay.. cycles cheep stuff just fine. *AVOID LEAD BULLETS (thinderbolts) if possible, they lead the gun up really awfully. Try to use something like Goldens instead.
Cheapest I've seen them lately is around $210. I would recommend a Taurus tx22 in that price range. It will be way more reliable with a variety of ammo.
DISCLAIMER!! I no longer am recommending Remington Thunderbolts. The level of leading is so high it ended up ruining my barrel. I have heard this from many other people so please keep that in mind. I like Aguila super extras which run good and dont lead up your barrel from non jacketed ammunition.
Totally agree. I quit using Thunderbolts about 15 years ago. They messed up my nephews .22 rifle so bad I had to clean it out every 30 rounds or so. Like all gritty inside the gun.
Can you pin the disclaimer please? It really helped me out
Sure thing 👍
I got a box of super x, Aquila, cci mini man and cci quiet mag
Stingers are the best for the firefly
The 2 extra sights they send out with it are actually how you adjust for elevation. The 3 sights are at different heights. Shoot with all 3 and take the one that works best for you
Thanks for that, I’m shooting low, now I can adjust
@@oldguyfishing that being said, be careful, the way they clip in is a bit fragile.
I bought a Sig Mosquito (same gun) in 2015. In the beginning it jammed and had problems. But since I liked the feel of it, I kept shooting it. Got past a 1000 rounds and it was working flawless. In fact, Sig said it would take at least 500 rounds to break-in. Then a guy at the range talked me into selling it. Wish I had not sold it. So last week I bought the Firefly. Will probably need to break this one in same as the other.
Very good review! I am especially glad you did a 3000 round review of this pistol. I recently purchased a GSG Fire-Fly. After shooting it about 100 rounds, I contacted the customer service tech-rep. at ATI in South Carolina with several questions. The tech-rep. told me that the pistol cannot be considered fully "broken-in" until AT LEAST 800 to 1000 rounds are fired. This came as a surprise to me! Therefore, while fun and enjoyable to watch, a LOT of the other videos on the Fire-Fly are shot "brand new" and "just out of the box". Unfortunately, such reviews are not
a true measure of the pistol because the tests are conducted without the pistol being fully broken-in. This easily leads to erroneous conclusions and false assumptions on the capabilities of the Firefly pistol. I also agree with your comments on Remington ammunition. I do not buy it anymore, it is quite dirty. Recently, I have had good performance with Aquila Super High-Velocity, 1280 fps, 38gr. hollow point, cu- plated. I buy it from the local Rural King store and it shoots well in my FireFly, S&W 22A-1 and Browning Buckmark UFX Camper. Also, I really like the de-cocking leaver feature on the FireFly. The trigger pull in the SA mode is fine for me. However, the DA mode trigger is quite stiff. I do not try to shoot it in the DA mode. Of course, the Fire Fly SA trigger pull cannot fairly be compared to the S&W 22A-1 or the Buck Mark. However, for an inexpensive pistol, in SA mode that is great fun to shoot, it delivers fairly good accuracy and is acceptable to me.
Glad to hear it's working good for you. That super extra is some good stuff!
I have to be honest, I just got mine a few days ago. Mine isn't suppressor ready. I was originally looking for the P17, but just about every shop I went to, they were sold out. I went to an outdoor sports store, and there was a MASSIVE amount of gun buyers so I was trying to get through the crowd to look at what they had. I noticed that they didn't have the P17, but they did have a TX22, but before I got to the actual counter, the salesman got the gun for someone else since they ended up buying it. I happened to look over next to where the TX22 was and seen this lonely pistol laying there. I asked to handle it and really liked the design and feel of it better than the P17. Only wished it came with 2 extra mags, but most handguns usually only have 1 mag.
It's nice and small, but not purse sized.
It uses 22lr ammo, which is cheaper on the wallet.
It has a softer spring in the box for slower velocity ammo.
It was under $250.
I think it'll make a fine everyday carry since it is lighter weight than most 9mm or bigger handguns.
Is it perfect, no. No gun is. Is it just for target plinking, meh, could be. Can you use it as an everyday carry? YES.
It doesn't have to pop heads like a water balloon to get someone to stop. It just has to stop the aggressor. .22lr can do that.
I was also thinking about getting a Hi-Point Carbine AND matching pistol. I may do that a little later. In the mean time, since I don't have a gun nut ego about size of bullets, I think I'll be happy with mine.
I picked up a black & tan version last winter. Most of what i had read was it was fussy at first with ammo. Mine definitely is. It runs CCI, Blazer & Golden bullets well. It doesn't like Winchester or Federals at all... I'm using the spring that came in it so I figure that would be the dif. I enjoy it. Nice gun. I've swapped out the magazine follower to increase the capacity to 14.. Good review.. Thanks
I like that magazine follower upgrade. I may have to try that! It's a fun little plinker for sure!
Everyone says it runs Blazer well but mine is getting a failure to feed at least 1 or 2 times every 20 or so rounds
Nice video 👍 I just ordered the same threaded barrel version in OD green. Looking forward to shooting it. Also gonna order about 4 extra mags. Keep it up!
Awesome man! OD green sounds nice!! The more mags the merrier the range time 🤣
File or lightly grind w Dremel the lip of lower breach to match ramp, polish the ramp and the breach best you can, and anyplace where the paint on the lower makes contact w upper, and it does wonders. Mine hates bulk ammo, fussy w Aguila, but a dream w Winchester XX, Remington, CCI and anything w a jacket.
I've heard of some older models having that issue. Mine came with a pretty beveled feed ramp and barrel matchup. Luckily I haven't had any feed issues, just low power ammo issues preventing the gun from even attempting to cycle a new round. Great tip though if rounds are not feeding and getting locked up 👍
Thank you for your very fair reviews of this gun. I have owned a Mosquito for many years and also own the newer Firefly. To me, these were never meant to be serious firearms but they do make excellent target shooting guns and guns for safety training and especially take down and cleaning which they need a lot. Failure to feed, failure to fire and failure to eject are all possible .22lr occurrences in any semi-automatic magazine fed pistol or rifle no matter who made the firearm or what it cost. That is part of the price of using the .22lr platform. Every semi automatic 22lr firearm I have shot or owned has experienced this. With the Mosquito, I threw away the high velocity spring after two magazines and that was after reading the manual carefully and using 36 to 40 grain/1250+ fps high velocity ammo. That spring was so stiff it did not allow the slide to fully go through its motion and stove piped almost every round. The standard velocity spring worked fine with the recommended ammo. I have since replaced that original spring with one from Taylor Tactical which works great. The Firefly supplied springs are more like the original standard velocity Sig spring. I did slightly enlarge the magazine lips by half a millimeter at the slug end which definitely has helped failure to feed along with keeping the bore ramp really clean. I clean and lube after every 200 rounds or so. The really heavy double action trigger pull to me is a safety feature. No one in their right mind would have deliberately designed this gun to be double action fired with 14 pound weight. These are really fun guns when they are sighted in, broken in and are used according to their original intention. If you are looking for an affordable, really reliable 22lr handgun or one that will not malfunction keep looking. Maybe the Taurus TX22 is as good as advertised. I haven't used one yet. I really like the Ruger SR22 but it will choke on ammo just like the rest of them. For now, I will keep enjoying these fun insects.
I agree 100% with your experience and thanks for the tips! I picked up a tx22 Friday so hopefully I can run it this week and see how it does. I still like the firefly/mosquito for what it is. It's a fun pinker once you get it dialed in 👍
This gun is a pile of trash that slide will just break right at the and end like my fathers just did I have spent lots of time re drawing up this dam thing and re machined an non casted 7075 aluminum slide for it it’s about to be rolling again who ever designed this junk should be slapped get a browning buck mark and just be set for Life with no issues seriously
when you switched to the lighter spring did you also go to std velocity ammo or continue with the hi velocity stuff. Just wondering if the hi velocity stuff would slam the slide back to hard with the lighter spring causing damage.
The "safety" is there so you can dry-fire the pistol without damaging the firing pin.
Can you explain this.
@@mattmatthews3909 Instead of hitting and damaging the firing pin, it's blocked by the slide safety. Dry fire all you want after that.
@@mattmatthews3909 many rimfire guns can be damaged by dry firing. It can also be hard to avoid though unless you count your rounds
Also, dry firing without a safety that blocks the firing pin on a rim fire can also lead to the firing pin damaging the breach face; which can lead to failures longterm
Or buy plastic dummy rounds. More fun
Great video. My LGS sold me CCI Standard Velocity along with my firefly. I almost drove straight back to the store after my first range outing. My buddy had Thunderbolt and its running amazing.
I have thr mosquitoe,, the giybi bought it from, sold it as it ONLY liked CCI STINGERS. (Ammo crunch hit,he couldn't get any) I tried mini-mags. Not hot enough, 10.00 spring off ebay, it loves the cheep stuff now!
Hey guys, thanks for watching! The 3 different sights included are for different heights and the recoil spring in the gun is for hotter loads above 1250fps and the extra recoil spring is for standard pressure. Hope it helps!!
I'm going to give this a try. I haven't really paid a ton of attention to the muzzle velocity speeds of the rounds I use, but I know that just about anything that says "quiet" or "sub-sonic" I can guarantee won't cycle through any of my 22s worth a hill of beans.
Interesting question though: is there any detriment or damage to the gun if you fire a hot round through it on the lighter spring? Or does it just recoil differently?
You know I was thinking the same thing. It may be harsher on the slide but I'm not positive. I was thinking maybe hot rounds with the lower spring should definitely do the trick but dont want to run the risk of breaking it. I'm going to look into that though!
Well shucks.... Looks like the short spring was what was installed when I got my gun so let's hope that it's just part of the break-in period and not an issue with the gun.
I think I could really use polishing the slide, trigger and ramp to lighten the trigger up and ease in loading. I noticed also that my magazine has a really tight section where you have to push pretty hard to install the mag where it's nice and smooth on the SW compacts. It's actually not a bad thing and I've gotten used to it, but it's just something I noticed last night while handling it. I lightly filed the chamfers at the magazine well and tried to thin out the ribs and high spots on the inside of the well where the wear spots were appearing on the magazine itself. The spring is strong enough to eject the mag no problem, but it's similar to the TX22 in that it only just pushes it out of the well when inverted (superficial test, I know. Just trying to get it smooth as possible).
@@timt1346 I hear ya man. I heard the spring installed is for heavier loads and the one in the box is for lighter but it looks the opposite. Honestly I didnt even mess with the one in the box. May be worth a shot? I didnt polish anything and I think the new models come with a beveled feed ramp vs the old ones that are very harsh. Mine was fine in that area. That trigga should be like butta now 🤣👍. Always a nice upgrade!
I will give it a try just to get it out of my system (only takes a few seconds to swap it out once you get the takedown figured out).
My trigger is really heavy. It could really use some help to get it down to maybe a 5#/10# split but it's usable in single action at what? 7lbs? Too much for my kid to like it but the trigger is comfortable.
I can see some edges on the ramp that could use bring smoothed out, but it's pretty close to the SWs I own. Can't hurt to try in any regard. It's a cheap gun so I don't expect the world from it in normal state. With some tinkering it could be a good match to my other pistols. If not I could sell it and but something else.
I have one on order I have the gsg 1911 absolutely love it, use Blazer quite hot so no malfunctions. Great nice balanced review thanks.
Which spring did you use? Mine is getting at least 1 or 2 failures every other magazine with Blazer
@@aaronellson23 just the one that came with it I'm not sure whether they upgraded the spring but my one has never let me down with Blazer, or mini mags.
@@TheYjmfan mine came with 2nd spring which is supposed to be for lower velocity ammo. Stingers ran really well but they are expensive
@@aaronellson23 yes I have a spare but never needed to use it
FYI. The extra sights are of different heights to allow elevation sight adjustment.
Thanks man! Didnt know until recently. Maybe I should've read the manual 🤦♂️😂
I put a hundred rounds of Federal though mine today with only one fail to eject. Very nice plinker
Had mine about 2 weeks.. Love it, great little gun!! Thunderbolt rounds worked great ...cheaper rounds might jam 1 time every few mags..
Glad to hear! Sounds like we've had the same results 👍
I've had really good results with federal ultra rimfire 36gr. Mine doesnt like American eagle though
Have had mine for two years now, aguila ammunition is a good choice for mine , always clean after shooting, make sure it’s lubed correct
Also Aguila can do a whole lot of damage if you aim at the right place
Nice video. I have the same gun with the OD green frame. However, I tried the Thunderbolts and the Winchester Super X first and could never get through a full mag with either. I switched to Mini Mag and have put just shy of 800 rounds through it with only one failure to fire.
Sweet! Seems like you just have to find what works for your particular one. I wish mini mags would run in mine because the thunderbolts lead up the barrel pretty bad. Thanks for stopping by!
I have this pistol too. It is ammo finicky. I was running Federal Auto (tan box) and I was lucky if the slide cycled for two or three shots. I'm going to run Golden bullets in it next time. It's a very nice pistol, light weight and fun to shoot. I also had the same issues with the same ammo in my ISSC Raptor. Fun gun, but needs a higher velocity ammo.
I had good luck with Aguila Super Extras 👍
CCI Blazer 40grain and you'll have little to no stoppages. The last time a took mine to the range I put 100rds of blazer through it with no issues.
Shot thousands of arounds of 36 ..&40gr. Mini mags . The gun shoots flawlessly. That’s all I put through it.
Magazine release can be switched to the opposite side of the firearm for leftys. I bought one about 1 year ago, as obviously the ammo is much more affordable in that format than 9mm all of the time. Quickly becoming my favorite plinking weapon.
I have had a gsg 522 rifle for several years and love it, I just might have to purchase this handgun. thank for this video and I will be smashing that red button to see more from you!!
Awesome! Thanks man and I LOVE my 522 too!
CCI Blazer rounds haven't failed me yet.. it doesn't skip a beat.. haven't a a hang up since I switched over
I have found the blazer ammo is complete garbage. Nothing remotely resembling mini mag status
I have one an it ran on every ammo I fed it including the cheap junk stuff I had laying around wish my twice the price walther p22 ran this good
I have exactly the same opinion of this firearm including the issues noted. My enjoyment of this pistol outweighs the irritation of the numerous Hang/misfires. For self defense training it affords great practice for clearing malfunctions. I’m not being sarcastic. I truly love this pistol. I don’t find the trigger to be a deterrent in single or Double action. It is a perfect training companion for my P225A1. Thank you for a frank and what-you-see-is-what-you-get review. I also was worried that I got lemon. I’m just going to enjoy Shooting it now. Do you think polishing the friction prone surfaces would help?
Thanks for the kind words! That p225A1 is a sweet pistol!! I have heard polishing the feed ramp helps on older models helps. Mine is relatively new and had a nice bevel from the ramp to the breech face so I left it alone. Some older ones had a bump that could cause feeding issues. I also clean the mags after every outing as they start to get finnicky after a couple or few hundred rounds. For what it's worth, I usually use wilson combat grease on my guns but use oil on this guy to help give it more friction. I would say try swapping out the recoil springs with the other one provided for average speed ammo. I left the spring that it came with in it and have been using hot ammo with over 1250 fps and it's been running almost flawless (less than 1% failure rate). Hope it helps for what its worth. And I enjoy the training aspect of it as well 👍Thanks for tuning in!!
Fun With Guns: Thank for the follow up and I’ll raise you one. Just got back from the Range. Last night I polished not only the feed ramp but the slide surface that contacts the hammer and the edges of the mag openings as well. Picked up a bulk pack of Rem Golden Bullets (1280fps) on the way. Gun ran 100% better until around the 300rd Mark then started failing. I soaked the feed and chamber area with Rem Gun Oil and that helped a lot. Called it a day after about another 50rds. I will thoroughly clean both mags before taking it out again. I am a 60+ yr old shooter and time has taken its toll on my eyesight. Nonetheless the accuracy of this pistol is nothing less than crazy. Thanks for the tip.
-B
I was able to fix the hang/misfire. I took the mags apart and found out the plastic piece in the mag was jagged. I sanded them smooth and have never had a hang/misfire yet.
You know I love my 22's the thing that sucks is cheap 22 ammo is generally crap. So once you buy good quality ammo it's not as much bang for the buck as say Tulammo 9mm
Very true! Luckily thunderbolts are pretty cheap at walmart but they lead the crud out of this things barrel. The only other round i think would work (that I know of) with this pistol is CCI Stingers which arent cheap. Also you cant beat the satisfaction you get from 9mm vs 22!
@@FunWithGuns true CCI is the best 22 ammo
i was having light striker fire with a out of the box firefly. the safety spring ball or pin was hindering it. fix.. the side screws of the safety needed tightening and it good to go. yes keep a eye on it.
Ty 4 the review! I always wonder how the budget guns preform. Have a great Christmas
Thanks, it's a fun plinker if you shoot hot ammo out of it. I also just posted a review on the GSG 522 SD. It's a MP5 clone in 22lr. They are really fun when they run but I think there are better options out there such as the Walther H&K MP5 22, M&P15 22 and the taurus tx22 for around the same prices. Thanks for watching brother! Have a good one too!
good pistol.. gotta go through the ammo to find what runs and what dont.. like all the safety features..used it to break in my kids to gun safety and marksman ship.. trained them to use as home defense as well.. ten in the mag and one in the tube.. taught them to fire with hammer at rest, first pull is harder then the next ten.. but adrenalin will get you through that..
That's awesome brother!
Just got back from the Indoor Range after putting in the longer recoil spring supposedly for standard loads. I shot Aquila round nose 40 grain and it seemed to like it; also shot Winchester Super X and no issues with that as well. When I tried the Federal Match Shot it was inconsistent on cycling the round. The accuracy at 10 years for all ammo was very good. I like the the controls on this gun and especially like the de-cocker and overall feel of the gun in my hand. We are all fortunate to have such a variety of 22lr to choose from. My favorites are the Taurus TX22, the Ruger SR22, and the S&W M&P 22 Compact. Also I think the Bersa Thunder, the Walther P22Q, and the Ruger LCPII 22lr are worth consideration.
Thanks for such a great video on the gun. Much appreciated.
Cci stingers work great
CCI Stangers works good too
I have seen some models listed as "polymer frame", but the vast majority are zinc/aluminum alloy frame and slide. All the ones I saw listed as polymer frame have been black and they are the only ones listed under $200. The average price is between $220 and $240. in the US.
Just picked one up. Haven't shot it yet, but I will be soon. I feel I way over-paid for it ($399) but .22LR pistols are getting harder to find for an everyday backup carry gun. I have high hopes for this tool considering the price. $100 more and I could've gotten a Glock 44 or for around the same price or less a Ruger SR22.
Lmao or get a real weapon like a canik in 9mm for the same price. I payed 399 for an sfx and 299 for an sft
@@Mike-gi1dk I have a Smith and Wesson SD40 as my primary and the same week after getting my GSG, I did end up finding a Ruger SR22 which I absolutely love. The Firefly turned out to be trash. I love .22s but wouldn't have one as a primary. In a worst case scenario though, they'll do the trick and don't add too much extra weight. I do think I'm done buying guns for a while though. I have everything I need for now.
I got my gsg which is also my first firearm about a month ago i love it only problem is it jams a few bullets here and there but overall i love it
Mine loves the Remington golden bullet & thunder bolt, hates Federal & Winchester. Shot 2000+ rounds out of box without any cleaning, wasn't even that dirty and no leading of the barrel
You shot 2000 rounds of 22lr without having to clean? Was it the thunderbolt? No leading?? I'm sorry that's kind of hard to believe.
@@FunWithGuns I've shoot around 1500 rounds of thunderbolts through my Firefly, maybe 2 to 3 mf and one sp. I've also shot close to 5k+ rounds of thunderbolts through my Beretta 87 and Sig P938 no issues and when cleaning barrel no build up. However I will watch and report back. I have close to 25k of thunderbolts. Hard to get anything else right now.
Great review and explanation and thoughts of malfunction, I wish I found your review months ago about ammo for my gsg,I thought to it was gun but found out by mistake it was cheap low powered ammo giving me problems. 👍👍👍👍
Just shot one round off to test the CCI standard velocity. My neighbors are quite old and infirm. So far so good 👍
Blazer was the only issue I had and after the 150-200 round brake in it runs like a singer sowing machine.
Nice review, as of Jan 2021 $250+ and good luck finding new 22lr, too. But... I still want one!
Bought one from Smokey Mountain for $211 in FDE this week
@@jdub229r Smokey Mtn Knife Works? Im close to there.
Thanks for the great review, and lol that Brothers shirt is awesome. I absolutely love the look of this pistol, but I feel like it's a headache trap just waiting for me. I've really been wanting a 22lr pistol & AR so I can still shoot on the cheap, but they need to shoot & run reliably. Because of that I'm gonna go with the Taurus TX-22 once I have the $, and can find 1. I've heard the M&P pistols run reliably also, but held 1 at my local gs and wasn't crazy about it. It just felt like a toy it was so small. I have pretty big hands tho so that may be part of it. So far it's looking like a TX-22 for pistol, and the M&P 15/22 for an AR
Thanks for the kind words. I agree completely on your choices. Both of those are solid. The tx22 is a better pistol for sure and I felt the same about my buddies m&p 22 compact.
Yeah I really wish S&W had a full size 22lr offering because I would go that route if they did. It's not like most people are looking for a 22lr carry gun
Have had this for awhile but I experience the same issues as the sig mosquito, anything other than CCI's dont want to feed properly, even polished the feed ramp.
Does it matter what velocity you use? Is the slide cycling far enough to rechamber? I know some of the older ones had a bump from where the feed ramp met the barrel and I've heard some people say slightly sanding and polishing that area helped.
I wonder if putting some oil would help.oil so the slide can slide back easy.
It was properly lubricated.
Thunderbolt seems like the best ammo bc it can be picky
Just picked one up yesterday. Right out of the gates it had a bunch of misfires and stovepipes. I could reload the ammo and it would shoot, so I'm not sure if it's bad ammo or what? I have to MP22 compacts and they run like garbage as well. Can't seem to either find good enough ammo or how to keep them operable like I had hoped.
I will try the lighter spring like you mentioned. I still have to clean the manufacturing sludge out of it so I honestly wasn't expecting it to run perfect. I also think maybe the cold had something to do with it.
That being said, once I got into a decent groove with it, the rounds fed a little better and the grouping started to tighten up. I definitely like the feel of this "mini P226" as it's very similar to my MK25 (same desert team color too!). Hopefully I'll get a chance to try again soon. I think I'll go back to aguila when this case of rounds runs out.
I've tried mini mags, stingers, Aguila standard, Federal, and just about every other box of stuff available at Bass Pro and Green top. Can't say any of them run any better than the next. They all hang up in the SWs even if I'm shooting them. It's 10X worse if the kids shoot. Can't limp-wrist these little semi-auto 22s.
You should have bought a tx22.
@@randomemail3936 true, but it was listed for more than $100 on top of what I paid for the little GSG. It's honestly not a terrible little gun but you kind of get what you pay for.
You most certainly can limp wrist a 22. Also, proper grip is necessary. Hold a 22 as you would a 9mm
Remember it is a polymer frame with a metal slide, it wont run consistently until you run a couple hundred rounds through it and get her hot. Some heat is always needed to really marry parts together, especially when they are made of different materials
I ended up running a few hundred rounds through the gun and it only got worse. I traded it in for a P365SAS and then bought a TX22. Not a single misfire or anything wrong with the Taurus. It's probably my best shooting gun. 4 mags and 16rds each really lets you have some fun with a 22!
The sights are not positive. They do have some slop to them. You got to (never seize) the upper rear slide where it slides over the hammer. Those two contact areas are not really hardened.
Would be nice if they'd make a .22 Mag or .17 HMR pistol like this.
Great Video Love my GSG
I just got me one and it comes with two springs. Maybe that helps if you change it
If you have to use it for self defense, Federal Punch is awesome. Just pricey.
Good video, tells you what you need to know.
cci stingers work really well
I love the p226 flat form but the price is kind of what’s leaning me on to a glock or m&p. But aside from that i want a budget pistol like the taurus g3 or this firefly. Great video btw
If you dont have a self defense pistol yet I would get that first. If you're looking for a reliable 22lr trainer type I would get a taurus tx22 or the m&p 22lr before one of these. They will be much more reliable with a variety of ammo. If I had to pick between this and a G3 or G2 i would go with one of the taurus. Just feel like you get a lot more for your money (a self defense pistol vs a plinker). Oh and my main sd pistol is a glock 17 bc the p226 is a bit pricey. Dont get me wrong it's still on my list of guns I want to get but it is not cheap!
Good video. Thanks for sharing. I just did a video on my Firefly, it doesn't like much ammo (light spring also). But loved CCI Velocitors. Take care.
I’d keep snap caps in that all the time & dryfire the shit outta that badboy if my main carry gun was a Sig P226. Sweet review bro! I see you’ve taken your channel to the next level now.
Thanks man, I eventually want to get a p226 so that's a cool idea! Thanks for noticing. Got a couple more things I want to do to enhance the videos but mainly just wanted to make them more enjoyable and or tolerable 🤣
Fun With Guns My buddy at a local range said he’d be willing to help anyway he could with my channel. I may start filming a bit there. To be honest. I shoot sometimes. Just too lazy to record & edit. Lol. Thanks for doing what you’re doing!
@@mr_fnh Thanks man, means a lot! You should definitely take him up on it. Totally understand though, it can take up a lot of time. Looking forward to some new vids from ya brother 🤙
For French owners, Solognac Speed from Decathlon is perfect for this.
As of today (11/13/2020) this is retailing online from GAG for $260
Just ordered mine from there! Looking forward to getting it. My daily carry is the sig p365 but with 9mm so pricey I am getting this one to substitute the 9 for training and well just plinking at the range without blowing through pricey ammo. Local shop has a ton of .22 LR but only very expensive 9mm
22lr Thunderbolts is the only way to go with this little guy
Just be careful, thunderbolts leaded up my barrel so bad my cleaning rod got stuck and Remington had to buy me a new one. I've had good luck with Aguila Super Extras and CCI Stingers without leading.
After 4,000 shots the backlash on the barrel appeared. I shot mainly with thunderbolts and S&B HV The only ammunition on which it almost did not jam. Any idea how to fix this problem?
Push slightly on the agenda release and you should be able to squeeze trigger without mag
Federal black bulk runs good
Best ammo that runs in my firefly- Tippman hypervelocity
The stingers didn’t do very good with mine but I only have about 90 rounds all mini mags or stingers
Mine shoots mini mag ammo really good
Please please remember this, guns CAN kill you. If you get this gun just be careful. If your not it could be very serious. Just have fun but follow precautions. If something seems off and it is acting strange, dont just keep firing. Not very likely, but it is possible that something bad could happen. Just be careful but have fun!
I bought this gun and have had only issues with feeding, but just be careful!
FWG not for self defense so the they can empty a mag on you and won’t be deadly and every time they plink you you’ll giggle on every shot
Love how you refer to your firearm as a "she." All my guns are girls too.
They all have names too 🤣
I thought he this guy the whole time 🤷♂️
I’m sorry, I really don’t wanna be a dick, but watching him lean so far forward on his Isosceles stance to handle the immense recoil of a .22 is hilarious.
Lol. It is funny looking but just to explain why I do it, I train like I'll fight. Considering I put typically tens of thousands of rounds through my 22lrs I dont want to get lazy and learn bad habits. Repetition is key and acting lazy because you're shooting a 22 creates sloppy habits. Especially when you're shooting more rounds through them than your primary gun. I have caught myself and others doing so and always correct it.
How about to 40 grain Federal rounds?
Has anyone ran this pistol with federal punch 29gr 22lr? Curious as to the results.
I got a strongly disagree with you I had one that just misfired like crazy send it back to GSG or whoever the distributor wasn't the United States. They were kind enough to replace it, and a new one is just as crappy. Don't get me wrong it's a fun gun 22 caliber threaded barrel double action single action $200. But today for an example we shot three boxes of 50 and I'll bet there was an easy 25 unforward bullets that we picked up off the ground that we had malfunctions on. Yeah so is it a fun gun yeah would I recommend it to anybody no I don't think so. The Walther coat 1911 chambered in 22, I've had that since June of this pasture and I'll bet I put 2,500 rounds through it at least, it eats about anything I put in it. I noticed when it's dirty I start getting some malfunctions but that's pretty typical with any 22 pistol. It's funny when it's dirty the slide operates so slow you could actually see it moving, kind of an indication of maybe take it home and clean it LOL
You say shoot it in single action all the time. After the first shot it automatically goes single action the hammer is back
Yes, after you load a round in the chamber it is single action for every shot unless you decock the hammer. Some people carry double action pistols decocked so they have a heavier initial trigger pull for additional safety in preventing accidental firing. I was just pointing out that the double action is extremely heavy and long and dont recommend it. Mainly just wanted to explain the trigger. All you have to do is not decock it to have single action for every shot but I know some people dont understand how double action works.
Velocitors will work that slide
I'm sure they will but spensive!
@@FunWithGuns box of fifty is about 6 bucks
I'd rather deal with a heavy trigger over recoil
Hey bro I own a 19x Cz p07 n Fn 509 looking for a fun 22 Lr is this the best for couple hundred?
This is a cool option for a mouse gun 22lr but I really enjoy my tx22 for training and it is less expensive. Other good options are the browning Buckmark and ruger mk series. FN makes the 502 which is like your 509 but in 22 so there's a lot of good options out there depending on what you want.
$299 now where I'm at
Where did you buy the clips from ???
I think I ordered the extra magazine off of ebay.
Plunking and killing is the same thing as long as your shot land you're good. The objective is to stop a person from killing you first DS.
I have the Walther (Umarex) Colt 1911 .22LR, but am still interested in another .22 LR because they are fun and cheap to shoot. The Ruger, Glock and S&W are too small for my liking. The FN is too expensive for a .22. That leaves me with the Firefly, Taurus, Sig P322, Walther PPQ .22 . I shot the Taurus and Sig and like the Sig much better. The Taurus TX22 gets good reviews, but I just didn't care for it. Since the Sig has 20 round mags, it's worth a bit more to me than the Walther PPQ and isn't really much more expensive when you add the 2nd mag you have to buy with the PPQ. If I buy the Firefly over the Sig and must use CCI ammo which is generally $.02/rd more expensive than other HV rounds, then pretty soon the cheap Firefly is no longer so cheap. The Remington Thunderbolts probably work well, before they foul the barrel, because they are both 40 grain and HV (1255 fps.) My question is how successful are the following ammos in the Firefly: 1) Aguila copper plated HV 40 g, 1255 FPS (should work well), 2) Remington Golden Bullet, either 36 or 40g, roughly 1250 fps, (also should work in 40g) 3) Armscor HP 36g, 1250 fps and 4) Federal copper plated HP, 36g, 1260 fps? The latter two may be too light? I have read the "blue box" Federal didn't work for some and they may mean #4. You indicated the Aguila Super Extras work. Anything else including those I listed?
The Remington golden bullets didn't have enough power to cycle mine. I haven't tried the armscor options. The super extras were perfect for it. It also comes with a lighter recoil spring which may help with the other options.
Have you tried high velocity winchester
No I have not but that may be a good option. The manual recommends anything over 1250 fps.
Awesome! Nice video!
Thanks brother!
3000 rounds?? I can't get through a magazine with out FTF, FTE and having to drop the magazine to clear jams. Tried every type of ammo out there. Changed out the recoil spring too. What a POS lemon I got. Glad you got a good one.
They are finnicky arent they?! You should see the review I just did on the gsg 522 🤣. Light strike city!! They are made in Germany but not typical German quality. There are better options for $50 more.
Can I have it?
I had this issue, turns out drifting the rear sight to far to the right can cause issues. Let me explain, the breachblock is actually held in place with the rear sight. Not a great system in itself. But if you are messing around and drift the sight far enough it can disengage from the breach block and cause feeding issues, failures to feed, double feeding, failures to return back into battery after firing and maybe more. I'd suggest taking it to a gunsmith, especially if you are having trouble recentering the rear sight. And dependeng on how hard you tried to recenter it you may need to order a couple parts. Hope this helps
I've got other comments on here but this video popped back up in my suggestions and as I've recently passed the 3000rnd mark with my personal firefly figured I'd slap another comment with things I've noticed.
1. The extra spring: a handy little feature I suppose but kinda impractical long term I feel. It takes time to change out the spring and I dont see me or many people toting the extra into the field just in case. Just find a round that works in yours with whichever spring and stick to it.
2. The grip: I noticed under fast deployment and heavy use the grip can shift a bit due to it being 2 halves rather than a solid piece. I fixed this by wrapping the grip in electrical tape a few layers thick, I also took the opportunity to add a chute cord lanyard loop using the tape as well. Idk how many of us use a lanyard on our field pistols during a hunt but its 10 bucks that will prevent you from losing a handgun longterm.
3. The rear sight: be careful about drifting the rear sight to far right as the rear sight drift screw also holds the breach block in place. Drifting it to far can result in the 2 becoming disconnected and can cause misfeeds, jams, and an assortment of other issues. And can be pricey to fix if you strip the drift screw trying to reattach the 2 as they are screwed together blind.
4.ammo: the thing definitely likes heavier ammo, 36gr or above. It takes a bit to move that slide.
Well done sir! 🙌🙌🙌 💪👍
@@FunWithGuns thank you
@@FunWithGuns you should do a year later review for yours and let us know how shes holding up. If you love shooting your as much as I enjoy mine, i can only imagine how many rounds you've put through it in the 10 months since the video was posted.
I carry the extra “hard to change out” spring in my gun case’ I can change it out in less than 2 minutes. You are not helping anyone 🙄
@@TacticalBuffoonary what are you talking about? I never referenced a "hard to change out" spring in my comment
Good review, but any reason you are in like 1980s fbi training video shooting stance?
🤣🤣🤣 my tripod doesnt go up very high so I was trying to make sure I was in the shot lol. Thanks for watching man! Also I do lean a tad low anyways probably because of my odd weight ratio 🤣
its a sold stance, not mine though (preferring the side stance) but a good one in any shooting situation.
How do you change between single action and double action?
Using the decocker.
I heard one spring is for light ammo and one is for hotter rounds
That is correct 👍
@@FunWithGuns can you explain which is which? I checked my manual and cant seem to find any information on the subject.
@@cheeseymann I believe the one installed is for heavier loads and the one in the box (the shorter one) is for lighter loads. Be careful as I believe they are tapered at one end and the wider end faces the back of the pistol and smaller end faces the muzzle. Hope this helps!
@@FunWithGuns awesome thank you bud. This might help with the american eagle ammo I'm having trouble with. I had assumed it was just an extra
Has anyone been trying the Federal Punch .22lr in the Firefly?
Do you still own this pistol? As a 22 I know they are finnicky, is it worth buying
I actually sold it. For the price I would recommend a taurus tx22 since the price of these have gone up and the Taurus is more reliable for not much more.
Fun With Guns thanks brother I appreciate it
Why do I see the muzzle extension on some? Mine doesn't have it
They have a threaded and non threaded barrel option for compensators or suppresors
Have you tried Yellow Jackets?
No, I wish I could find some! Those have an impressive fps!! I tried golden bullets which gave a lot of issues. I would imagine those yellow jackets would perform just fine.
Can the threaded barrel protector come off?
It can but I have never had it come off or loosen up from shooting.
I have one. I love it.
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Are the barrels iterchangeable? I neex the threaded barrel
Yes, they are interchangeable. I called ATI and right now they have the non threaded barrel in stock, but they do not have the threaded barrel. You can go to their website and have them notify you when it's back in stock.
Ive absolutely always found cci ammo to be underpowered without ifs ands or buts, its junk. Thats not counting Stingers, can't say as they're too expensive for 22 ammo I won't buy it.
question i got gsg 1011 22 lr .i had sand the slide becouse the paint i bought new mags, recoil spring .guide rod before sanding do you have do this to this slide?
I didnt notice any issues with the coating and didnt have to do any sanding. Sorey to hear about that. I would suggest calling ATI. They have really good customer service.
@@FunWithGuns ok thank you i got it running good now i guess this is common issue i saw you tube thanks for your reply
@@jeffmilosevich6871 must be an issue with the 1911 series I've never heard that with the firefly/mosquito
Do they make extended mags?
Not that I'm aware of. Maybe promag but I've never had any luck with promags.
No, but you can get parts to modify your mag from 10 to 16 here. www.taylor-tactical-supply.com/gsg-firefly-16rd-mag-upgrade-p/200-16rd-fire.htm
Pss thunderbolts are NOT hotter than a stinger. Heavier, yes, but NOT hotter.
In my mosquitoe,, she ONLY liked stingers, mini-mags and LESS wouldn't cycle. Anew 7.00 spring off ebay.. cycles cheep stuff just fine.
*AVOID LEAD BULLETS (thinderbolts) if possible, they lead the gun up really awfully. Try to use something like Goldens instead.
Can anyone "shoot me" a link to a website that sells these for under 200$ ?
Cheapest I've seen them lately is around $210. I would recommend a Taurus tx22 in that price range. It will be way more reliable with a variety of ammo.
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Buy a tx22, for $50-70 more it is much more solid pistol.
It is a great option. I picked this up before they came out. I still like this option for a fun range toy.
MrTom make sure you fill out the warranty card. I checked the barrel on mine and it was fine.