Same here, when it comes to lining now days im loyal to the coil. I started also doing tats with pen style machine and now im using only coils with lining and sometimes whip quick shades. Great vid i hope to see more of these type of content from you. Greetings from finland
You’re the only person that talked about stroke difference between coil and rotary. That’s because it’s linear motion with sharper hit towards end of the amplitude. With rotary needs extra inertia from stroke revolution. Only way to get more power out of the hit is to increase stroke. I tattoo the same way using coil for lines. Color packing with a well tuned shader coil is great too. Much more effective then a rotary. Any realism is best with a rotary tho.
100% agree i have 3 rotaries and...almost 12 coils machines. They are just better, cost less, and work forever. And linig is just amazing with a coil, when you ajust the spring perfectly you just have to let the machine do the work for you..
Have you tried sidewinder rotary machines with spring for lining? In rotary machines needle speed actually slows down in the lowest point when it is hitting the skin because of circular movement of axle. So the needle is slowing down when it should be hitting fast and it does not penetrate skin so easy. In rotary you have to have longer stroke and use quite high rpm.s to line. In coil machines needle movement comes to sudden stop, because armature bar hits the coils. Because of this,needles speed is fast when it hits the skin, so they penetrate the skin easier. Sidewinder machines with spring have similar sudden stop in the low point of the needles movement. They also make buzzing noise because of that like coils. Some manufacturers make sidewinder machines with cam, but with cam it functions just like other rotary machines.
I tried to line with a coil machine but it seems like the disposable plastic tubes are too shaky and it’s effecting the line result . Does it worth it without iron grips?
I line and shade with coils. 21 years and counting. Soft black and grey realism, etc., traditional, they do it all .
Same here, when it comes to lining now days im loyal to the coil. I started also doing tats with pen style machine and now im using only coils with lining and sometimes whip quick shades. Great vid i hope to see more of these type of content from you. Greetings from finland
I like the coil a lot my self . I use em alll tho
You’re the only person that talked about stroke difference between coil and rotary. That’s because it’s linear motion with sharper hit towards end of the amplitude. With rotary needs extra inertia from stroke revolution. Only way to get more power out of the hit is to increase stroke. I tattoo the same way using coil for lines. Color packing with a well tuned shader coil is great too. Much more effective then a rotary. Any realism is best with a rotary tho.
Agree. I used the Cheyenne Thunder for 3 years and now a Sol Terra for the past 3 . Back to tattooing with coils and big difference. Single pass.
I also use metal grips for lining especially ,just don't like the disposable ones
Awsome I watched this before now I got a lot of practice and I know what I can use for linework and it’s only the dragonhawk v2s
100% agree i have 3 rotaries and...almost 12 coils machines. They are just better, cost less, and work forever. And linig is just amazing with a coil, when you ajust the spring perfectly you just have to let the machine do the work for you..
Have you tried sidewinder rotary machines with spring for lining?
In rotary machines needle speed actually slows down in the lowest point when it is hitting the skin because of circular movement of axle. So the needle is slowing down when it should be hitting fast and it does not penetrate skin so easy. In rotary you have to have longer stroke and use quite high rpm.s to line.
In coil machines needle movement comes to sudden stop, because armature bar hits the coils. Because of this,needles speed is fast when it hits the skin, so they penetrate the skin easier.
Sidewinder machines with spring have similar sudden stop in the low point of the needles movement. They also make buzzing noise because of that like coils. Some manufacturers make sidewinder machines with cam, but with cam it functions just like other rotary machines.
Haven’t tried it yet , on the list though
I love the video and reading the comments
hey what is the exact name of the black coil machine? i want to buy it asap
This is the way
Bro try seth ciferris aluminum coils that are light and super nice
Love them
I strongly agree
Thank you
I tried to line with a coil machine but it seems like the disposable plastic tubes are too shaky and it’s effecting the line result .
Does it worth it without iron grips?
I've always built and used coils ,coils forever for me
Coils will ALWAYS be better for lining, I thought that was common knowledge.
hard agree. nothing comes close to a quality well tuned coil when it comes to lining. single pass lines allll the time