Your actually the reason I bought the EZ63. As many others I agree though that despite the build quality, the sound of the keyboard just isn’t on par with those of custom keyboards. All I’ve done as far as modding goes is lubing the spacebar stabilizer a little more because during a teardown I realized that the housing and stems are actually not lubed at all, only the wire where it comes in contact with the housing. But it didn’t really make much of a difference in the end.😅 Gotta give it some credit though, this keyboard is actually how I finically hit Ascendant!!!
Hey Migs! Are the products on the tierlist organized based on how good they are in each tier? As in like, the MelGeek Made68 Pro being the BEST SS tier keyboard while the Epomaker CIDOO C75 is the 'worst' SS tier keyboard (yet still SS of course)? Just saying this because it seems like it was placed on each tier based on how early they were placed (meaning the Made68 wouldn't be the best SS tier.) Also, if money or layout didn't matter, what would you pick as the best? Love your content! Keep it up!
Thanks for watching! Yes the tierlist is organized in each tier. Left being the very SS and the right being almost in the middle of SS and S. If money and layout didn't matter, I would still pick the Made68 Pro on this list, but I feel like wooting 80he would have some fight also, stay tuned for the review :D
Tier list is not supposed to be used as putting 75% of items in S category. 8000hz is long and catchy labels, but could be summarized as short as 8khz, plus actual USB poll rate is much lower, so it does not make any sense whatsoever (latency test is). Instead of thousand words and rather useless s-tier grouping, your experience with those keyboards could be put into "excel" columns with colored scores for : sound, stability, build, software features, hardware features, PRICE, switches, caps material. I will be looking for this kind of review very much.
You have to try the upcoming su75 ultra version because that one has 8khz polling rate, 50k scan rate, 0.004mm(not even 0.01mm), an aluminum build quality, SOCD/Snap Tap, that keyboard is the real god tier product.
How does the latency on the Keychron stack up to the likes of the Wooting? And will you be reviewing the Yunzii RT75 anytime soon?!?! Many thanks, keep up the good videos.
I feel like the wooting is more responsive than the keychron, but the keychron shouldn't be that far. I'm not sure with the rt75, but you can expect an rt68 if everything goes well :D Thanks for watching
Nice review and tier list. I got a MU68 as my first HE keyboard, and it looks and feels amazing, but I do not like it for gaming. I don't know if it's the keyboard or my not being used to such a small form-factor, but I find it very difficult to use. I've tried adding stands on the back to adjust the angle, using a wrist rest, changing the settings, etc., but nothing makes it feel right. I love 80% TKL sized keyboards, but for some reason there don't seem to be many HE keyboards in this form factor at this time.
The MU68 felt pretty nice for me too. I was kinda used to the wooting so using the MU68 was pretty good for gaming as well. How long have you been using the MU68?
@@Migss Just a few days. I'm not back on my Razer Huntsman V2 TKL, as I was not doing well on the MU68. As another poster said, I should try a 75 or 80% HE keyboard. Always looking forward to your reviews!
Hey ! I just watched this video and I would like to suggest (actually I want to know the answer haha) since every youtuber out there is mainly talking about build quality, features etc and also you have go over this list of hall effect keyboard in that manner, why dont you test them out individually performance wise on keybord inspector to see the performance like its polling rate? Mainly to see latency actually. I heard some hall effect keyboard advertized as 8k hz but does not really reach to 8k hz. Thank you, keep it up with the great video.
@@Migss ahh i see, because ive read through reddit and joined some keyboard inspector discord they talked abt the real polling rate of kb instead of its advertised polling rate.
Thank you for watching :D Right now I think all the SS ranked keyboards will be the best, the Made 68 pro is less than 100 for now, there's also some very close to 100. I'll review it if I can get my hands on it. Thanks for the sub :)
if you're looking for software and features then wooting will have more, but performance wise the ez63 is better and the features is not really lacking, it's just wooting has a little better software
Just pledged for a Melgeek MADE84Pro. Already have the Wooting 60HE, but this time around i didn't think that 300 EUR or USD would be the right price for the Wooting 80HE. I really want the Function keys so lets hope its a good bet :)
Do your comments regarding the g75 apply to the g60/65 as well? Or are there some tech-related stuff I’m missing Oh shit it’s the dual trigger isn’t it
so i kinda heard that cidoo c75 have a dead zone like 0.1 mm but feels different. it feels like having 0.2mm rapid trigger switch rather than what their claim about 0.1 mm. Whats your opinion about that dead zone? did you experience it??
@@farmeunit is that it? have you tried it? i just need an opinion about 0.1 vs 0.2 different, because my reviewer said that it feels kinda not as responsive as the 0.1
@@jul5909 Currently have a Melgeek Cyber01 and waiting on a K2 HE. Of course there is a difference on paper. If you can notice a. 1mm difference, you're probably in the top %1 of gamers. The vast majority of people won't be able to tell the difference between 0.1 and 0.2. Some people set their switches at somewhere between 0.1 and 0.5 just because 0.1 is too sensitive. You can always pick up differences in testing that won't make a bit of difference in the real world. If you are concerned about it, you probably just need to get a higher-end keyboard that is known to be more exact.
@@farmeunit owh okay okay thank you so much, i havent buy any cause im planning to buy vxe atk75, but theres some rt keyboard that i want to test more cheaper but have 0.2. I said this because some reviewer said that 0.2 not as responsive as 0.1. But after i listen to you i get the reason to buy the good one then. Thank you so much
@@Migss Very nice thanks! Will you also be doing a video on the 80he when it comes out? I placed an order for it and the attack shark mouse you reviewed
Both are good, with the drunkdeer g75 and made68 you will have to disable some settings when you're about to play cs, the drunk g75 I think is one of the best apex keybs specially cause of RDT
Bro i'm buyed iyx mu68 after watch your video. This keyboard didn't have analog. Only wooting have a analog? Other magnetic keyboards don't have a analog? İyx mu68 don't and i think wooting better from other hall effect keyboards.
The IYX MU68 definitely beats the xvxg75 and k617 quality wise, as expected for double the price, you do get a aluminum case. Which I really like, but for half the price you do get a plastic version, they're both pretty close to each other on the tier list and I would've placed the iyx above both, but what made the IYX MU68 lower than the both was the software, ngl if the software of the iyx mu68 was similar to the redragon and xvx then I might've put it above them. It just makes the experience kinda meh for me with the software. Might depend on you though, some don't really mind the software since you can just uninstall it after setting the keyb up, but I do change my settings kinda often.
Hey brother just pledged for the made 68 pro its great and all but i want to “future proof” it and wondered if you know any cases thats aluminum that fits perfectly for the made 68 pro been searching around and only found kbdfans tofu 65 v1 is the perfect fit but its discontinued and they sell tofu 65 v2 which the usb type c is in the middle so its not compatible with the made 68 pro any cases you have in mind? Thanks and God Bless!
I just picked up today because I had the irok mu68 but had issues with it plus the keycaps are flat which I don’t like quality was on point tho but the boyi looks promising
both similar on 1khz polling rate, so pretty close to each other, but I feel like drunkdeer might be abit more responsive since they are more focused on gaming but I'll try testing them if I get the proper camera or materials, both should be close though.
Thanks! You helped me picking my first he keyboard and 8khz wireless mouse. Keep it up!😊
I'm glad I can help :D thank you so much for watching
Which ones did you go for?
can't wait for 80HE. GOD Bless
same bro! God bless you too
are you getting a reviewers sample or purchased? hope you enjoy your 80HE :)
Your actually the reason I bought the EZ63.
As many others I agree though that despite the build quality, the sound of the keyboard just isn’t on par with those of custom keyboards.
All I’ve done as far as modding goes is lubing the spacebar stabilizer a little more because during a teardown I realized that the housing and stems are actually not lubed at all, only the wire where it comes in contact with the housing. But it didn’t really make much of a difference in the end.😅
Gotta give it some credit though, this keyboard is actually how I finically hit Ascendant!!!
Thanks for watching the videos :D It was also definitely your hard work as well, not just the keyboard that helped you get ascendant :D
Quick note for anyone watching: the Akko 3061S-HE has 8k Hz polling rate on all keys, not just four. You can check this using the Keyboard Inspector
Saw many testing it getting only 4 keys at 8k hz and all the others at like 125hz
@@blvkoz3538 Yes, but they patched it. So now all keys are 8k, but still only 4 keys with rapid trigger.
@@suchsiorigin ahhh so it was just some early bug stuff, gotcha. Found it weird too that the polling rate would be 125hz for a gaming keyboard.
@@suchsiorigin what
thanks for the information, now I will buy it
Waiting for hm66 review, the BEST keyboard out rn on god
I'll definitely try reviewing it :D
Hey Migs! Are the products on the tierlist organized based on how good they are in each tier? As in like, the MelGeek Made68 Pro being the BEST SS tier keyboard while the Epomaker CIDOO C75 is the 'worst' SS tier keyboard (yet still SS of course)? Just saying this because it seems like it was placed on each tier based on how early they were placed (meaning the Made68 wouldn't be the best SS tier.)
Also, if money or layout didn't matter, what would you pick as the best? Love your content! Keep it up!
Thanks for watching! Yes the tierlist is organized in each tier. Left being the very SS and the right being almost in the middle of SS and S. If money and layout didn't matter, I would still pick the Made68 Pro on this list, but I feel like wooting 80he would have some fight also, stay tuned for the review :D
@@Migss MY GOAT !! 🐐🐐
Speaking of new releases, can't wait for the ninjutso sora to release 8k!!
@@Migsswhat makes you prefer the made68 over the c75 other than the socd
Tier list is not supposed to be used as putting 75% of items in S category.
8000hz is long and catchy labels, but could be summarized as short as 8khz, plus actual USB poll rate is much lower, so it does not make any sense whatsoever (latency test is).
Instead of thousand words and rather useless s-tier grouping, your experience with those keyboards could be put into "excel" columns with colored scores for : sound, stability, build, software features, hardware features, PRICE, switches, caps material. I will be looking for this kind of review very much.
Thanks for the suggestions and watching :D I really appreciate it
good video bro love that you put effort into reviewing all of them and give an unbiased review and have good conclusions overall
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching :D
The redragon isn't an actual 8k board. I don't many of these actually are based on tests other reviewers have conducted.
Hi, Should I get the MU68 or the Akko 3061s Performance wise?
Will you review MU68pro in the future?
You have to try the upcoming su75 ultra version because that one has 8khz polling rate, 50k scan rate, 0.004mm(not even 0.01mm), an aluminum build quality, SOCD/Snap Tap, that keyboard is the real god tier product.
Can u tell me the full name of the keyboard plss
And what is the price of the keyboard
@@ItzBlazeOP Everglide SU75U/Ultra and the price is somewhere between $200 or $225
that sounds like a really good keyboard, I'll definitely try reviewing it, thanks for the suggestion :D
@@Migss fosho, the goat
How does the latency on the Keychron stack up to the likes of the Wooting? And will you be reviewing the Yunzii RT75 anytime soon?!?! Many thanks, keep up the good videos.
I feel like the wooting is more responsive than the keychron, but the keychron shouldn't be that far. I'm not sure with the rt75, but you can expect an rt68 if everything goes well :D Thanks for watching
@@Migss Thank you very much 🙏
@@Migss what would you pick between the Yunzii RT75 and the XVX G75?
You should try the boyi 66 pro. It has 8khz polling rate, 0.1mm actuation point, rapid trigger, and the sound of it is great for around $100.
thanks for the suggestion! I will try if I can
what do you think of DrunkDeer G60 and G65, is the performance the same as the DrunkDeer G75?
It’s the same only the keyboard layout 60% 65 75
what about drunkdeer a75 and a75 pro
Nice review and tier list. I got a MU68 as my first HE keyboard, and it looks and feels amazing, but I do not like it for gaming. I don't know if it's the keyboard or my not being used to such a small form-factor, but I find it very difficult to use. I've tried adding stands on the back to adjust the angle, using a wrist rest, changing the settings, etc., but nothing makes it feel right. I love 80% TKL sized keyboards, but for some reason there don't seem to be many HE keyboards in this form factor at this time.
The MU68 felt pretty nice for me too. I was kinda used to the wooting so using the MU68 was pretty good for gaming as well. How long have you been using the MU68?
Wooting released an 80HE that may be to your liking.
@@Migss Just a few days. I'm not back on my Razer Huntsman V2 TKL, as I was not doing well on the MU68. As another poster said, I should try a 75 or 80% HE keyboard.
Always looking forward to your reviews!
@@ruokeren1919 Thanks, I may have to give that a shot.
Hey ! I just watched this video and I would like to suggest (actually I want to know the answer haha) since every youtuber out there is mainly talking about build quality, features etc and also you have go over this list of hall effect keyboard in that manner, why dont you test them out individually performance wise on keybord inspector to see the performance like its polling rate? Mainly to see latency actually. I heard some hall effect keyboard advertized as 8k hz but does not really reach to 8k hz. Thank you, keep it up with the great video.
I tried keyboard inspector but it's so inaccurate from my tests, but thanks for the suggestion!
@@Migss ahh i see, because ive read through reddit and joined some keyboard inspector discord they talked abt the real polling rate of kb instead of its advertised polling rate.
I saw you also reviewed the yzunzii rt68. Where do you think that would fit on this teir list? Thanks!
I'm doing a new updated tierlist soon :)
just uploaded an updated tier list, I hope it helps :D th-cam.com/video/-Q-VNJsKIv4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=88OpWOe65uE_pbAb
Nice review indeed! Please, best keyboard from this list under 100$ for only game playing CS2? How about Boyi 66pro?.... subscribed
Thank you for watching :D Right now I think all the SS ranked keyboards will be the best, the Made 68 pro is less than 100 for now, there's also some very close to 100. I'll review it if I can get my hands on it. Thanks for the sub :)
@@Migss thank you for your reply. I forgot to mention that, only a wired keyboard I need it...
I'm going from a speed silver Corsair k70 to a drunkdeer g60 can't wait to test it out
I hope everything goes well with your unit :D
How did it go? I'm looking to buy this as well for my first HE keyboard.
@@ttw-mb5zn same if it has snap tap im gonna get it
@@goblex they were working on it as of a month ago, it may already have gotten updated.
@@ttw-mb5zn I looked into it and yes all drunkdeer keyboards now have the feature with the new update.
can you try the attackshark k85? I heard its pretty good for its price
I would put drunk deer on A cuz the web software isn't good yet. Maybe at the end of the year it will be better
hey migss! ive been thinking of buying the wooting 60 he or the ez63, based on software and features what should i get?
if you're looking for software and features then wooting will have more, but performance wise the ez63 is better and the features is not really lacking, it's just wooting has a little better software
Just pledged for a Melgeek MADE84Pro. Already have the Wooting 60HE, but this time around i didn't think that 300 EUR or USD would be the right price for the Wooting 80HE.
I really want the Function keys so lets hope its a good bet :)
I hope everything goes well with your unit :D btw if you're interested I have a vid review coming up regarding the 80he, stay tuned :)
@@Migss Thanks man :)
Which one would you rather buy the Drunkdeer G75 or Epomaker Cidoo C75. I cannot decide atm and so I need outside opinion
depends, do you really want the snap tap/last win and rdt, or would you prefer quality sound and aluminum case.
Do your comments regarding the g75 apply to the g60/65 as well? Or are there some tech-related stuff I’m missing
Oh shit it’s the dual trigger isn’t it
should i take the iqunix ez63 or made68 pro?
What sound and look do you prefer?
@@Migssi like the sound of the iqunix, but the made68 pro look is more appealing. i could mod the made68 pro to a limit but idk abt the iqunix
@@loldocks0 go for the made then :D
Can i change Switch to silent magnetic? Does the rapid trigger work with Silent Switches?
Any plans on reviewing the atk68?
If I get the chance, yes, no guarantees though.
should i get the made68pro or g75
i got Made68 pro today and man…sound and weight is great!
Nice video , thanks
I'm glad you like the video :D thank you also for watching
Is the drunkdeer g60 and g75 the same?
im so happy u did this. tysm
I'm very glad you find happiness through my videos :D thank you for watching as well
hey ive seen you play valorant and i was curious what sense and dpi do you use?
0.2 1600dpi
@@Migss thank you bro!!
How responsive is the Made68 Pro compared to the Wooting?
Look at the numbers the made 68pro should be faster, feeling wise they're very close and some might not be able to even feel the difference
so i kinda heard that cidoo c75 have a dead zone like 0.1 mm but feels different. it feels like having 0.2mm rapid trigger switch rather than what their claim about 0.1 mm. Whats your opinion about that dead zone? did you experience it??
You won’t even notice the difference…
@@farmeunit is that it? have you tried it? i just need an opinion about 0.1 vs 0.2 different, because my reviewer said that it feels kinda not as responsive as the 0.1
@@jul5909 Currently have a Melgeek Cyber01 and waiting on a K2 HE. Of course there is a difference on paper. If you can notice a. 1mm difference, you're probably in the top %1 of gamers. The vast majority of people won't be able to tell the difference between 0.1 and 0.2. Some people set their switches at somewhere between 0.1 and 0.5 just because 0.1 is too sensitive. You can always pick up differences in testing that won't make a bit of difference in the real world. If you are concerned about it, you probably just need to get a higher-end keyboard that is known to be more exact.
@@farmeunit owh okay okay thank you so much, i havent buy any cause im planning to buy vxe atk75, but theres some rt keyboard that i want to test more cheaper but have 0.2. I said this because some reviewer said that 0.2 not as responsive as 0.1. But after i listen to you i get the reason to buy the good one then. Thank you so much
How many of them actually have analog input?
I think only wooting
hey migss can you or do you have a vid on your whole setup it honestly looks heavenly I'd love to do something similar
I did make a renovation video but I did change it alot alrdy, I'll definitely do a tour when I can for you.
@@Migss Very nice thanks! Will you also be doing a video on the 80he when it comes out? I placed an order for it and the attack shark mouse you reviewed
hey, what should I get for mostly valorant, apex, and some cs I am thinking of either the drunkdeer g75 or the made68(non pro model)
Both are good, with the drunkdeer g75 and made68 you will have to disable some settings when you're about to play cs, the drunk g75 I think is one of the best apex keybs specially cause of RDT
Bro i'm buyed iyx mu68 after watch your video. This keyboard didn't have analog. Only wooting have a analog? Other magnetic keyboards don't have a analog? İyx mu68 don't and i think wooting better from other hall effect keyboards.
Where would the Luminkey Magger68 fall in this list?
Around S tier probably
just uploaded an updated tier list, I hope it helps :D th-cam.com/video/-Q-VNJsKIv4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=88OpWOe65uE_pbAb
What do u think bout the Polar 75 Kitsune?
I dont see the Timberwolf Raven68 there.. EDIT I see you've not tried it yet.
I will try getting my hands on it :D
love your videos bro
I'm glad, thank you so much bro :D
Got any information on when the K2 HE will be buyable from the official Keychron store and not Kickstarter?
probably after the campaign ends, but I think it will also be a little more expensive
Does the ez63/60 has snap tap?
can I ask what's the top 5 softwares from here in your opinion
wooting, drunkdeer, melgeek, nuphy, meletrix
Akko has only wasd 8000hz, other only 1000. And how akko 3061s he, xvx g75, fizz k617 better than iyx mu68?
The IYX MU68 definitely beats the xvxg75 and k617 quality wise, as expected for double the price, you do get a aluminum case. Which I really like, but for half the price you do get a plastic version, they're both pretty close to each other on the tier list and I would've placed the iyx above both, but what made the IYX MU68 lower than the both was the software, ngl if the software of the iyx mu68 was similar to the redragon and xvx then I might've put it above them. It just makes the experience kinda meh for me with the software. Might depend on you though, some don't really mind the software since you can just uninstall it after setting the keyb up, but I do change my settings kinda often.
whats your thoughts something like made68 pro vs keychron k2 he considering theyre both on kickstarter right now?
both are good keyboards, would really come down to what you're looking for and your personal preference.
@@Migss Why is made68 pro better than the k2 he?
@@cyhack K2 HE is 1000Hz polling rate.
I was waiting for this LFG
I'm glad you are! :D I hope you like the video
what do u think of new AJAZZ AK820 MAX HE its 70 usd and i dont know if its good
Haven't really tried it yet, I'll try reviewing it if I get my hands on it
Hi, what do you think about endgame gear kb65E??
I haven't tried it yet but I will try get my hands on it :)
Hey brother just pledged for the made 68 pro its great and all but i want to “future proof” it and wondered if you know any cases thats aluminum that fits perfectly for the made 68 pro been searching around and only found kbdfans tofu 65 v1 is the perfect fit but its discontinued and they sell tofu 65 v2 which the usb type c is in the middle so its not compatible with the made 68 pro any cases you have in mind? Thanks and God Bless!
I also don't know any at the moment but I'll let you know once I know one
Have you tested the BOYI66 PRO?
unfortunately, not yet
I just picked up today because I had the irok mu68 but had issues with it plus the keycaps are flat which I don’t like quality was on point tho but the boyi looks promising
You forgot to try SKN 75 HE, its a Q1 HE sister brand
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll try get my hands on it
Very interested to know your thoughts on the Gamakay TK75 HE
Thanks for watching! I'm trying to get my hands on it :D
@@MigssCool cool. The Wraith W75 is another board i haven't seen any videos on, would be awesome if you came in clutch as well 👀
No Polar 65? Or Polar 75 Pro? 😢
It's literally one of the best budget HE keyboards
haven't tried it yet but I'll definitely try, thanks for the suggestion :D
@@Migss Please do! 😀
just reviewed it, I'll include it in the next tierlist th-cam.com/video/W_RWv5zsQJ4/w-d-xo.html
@@Migss Nice, gonna watch it rn. Keep it up! 🔥
Bro 1 question plss: (which is better for gaming and fast responses drunkdeer g75 or keychron k2 he) plss answer 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️
Love ur all videos
both similar on 1khz polling rate, so pretty close to each other, but I feel like drunkdeer might be abit more responsive since they are more focused on gaming but I'll try testing them if I get the proper camera or materials, both should be close though.
I think ur right
MU 68 have snaptap?
seem's you can try HM66 keyboard
someone say it's better than wooting keyboard
not having the literal best keyboard the arbiter studiop polar 65 pro is crazy...
sorry about that, I wish could've included it, I'll try getting my hands on one if I can
Do you think it’s better than the melgeek made68pro?
just reviewed it, I'll include it in the next tierlist th-cam.com/video/W_RWv5zsQJ4/w-d-xo.html
are there some keyboards 60/65% 8000hz that has mod tap like wooting?
I'm pretty sure all of the keyboards in this tierlist have mod tap
@@Migss are u sure ?for now i'm interesting at varmilo muse 65he and iquinux ez63
Waiting for my Keychron K2HE
Can u review madcatz fire68? Its budget magnetic keyboard wih 0.04 rapid trigger🙏
I will try :D
@@Migss there is only one. Review i found and hes thailand he's review pretty good but i wanna let. You try and ranking it🙏
ATK RS7 PRO ?
Amesome brooo❤️❤️❤️
Love you
xD thank you bro, I'm glad you love it
hows wooting not ss at da top
I explained it in the video
hope you try the AJAZZ AK820 Max HEs
Is keychron the only wireless?
I see one from gamakay but I haven't had the chance to try it yet. On this list yes, it is the only wireless I've tried so far
can you pls review the Bridge75 HE :)
I will try get my hands on em :D
Bro when will drunkdeer g75 review come??? ❤️❤️❤️❤️
soon :D
Here it is: th-cam.com/video/iMA-500XYiM/w-d-xo.html :D I hope you enjoy
Please do the Endgame Gear KB65HE, I’d like to see a newer review
Christ Is Risen ☦️
I will try getting my hands on it
How about the ATK RS7 PRO?
I will try get my hands on it if I can
Try wraith w75
can u try the hm66 ??
Thanks for the suggestion :D I want to, I will try
No drunkdeer is lame
Fire
🔥 thank you bro!
Does anyone got the ATK RS7 Pro???
try SU68
Please do the EGG KB65HE!
Thanks for the suggestion, I will try :D
@@Migss I totally forgot I already made my request lol, thanks again
Price aside, the wooting 60he is just unbeatable.
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Why not Akko mod007b he
review also coming soon :D haven't tested it yet though so can't really include in the tierlist sorry bout that
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Fizz k617 better than mu68, ahHHahHHAaa
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noooooo i just bought 3061s he three days ago, ffffffffff
It is still a great keyb xD, I hope the 8khz is not just on 4keys and the info wasn't real. But I'll also try asking them about it if I can