FITTING THE METAL ROOF ON THE GARDEN SHED BUILD - How did it survive Winter?
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Looking good, I bought the same sheets for my garage the supplier told me to lighty singe the felt off the sheets at gutter level I used a small gas torch this seems to have stopped any capillary.
Thanks for sharing
That sounds like a good idea if it isnt super easy to cut and ripp of a little. If not also filling the fabric with spray paint should smooth it out and stop wicking
You can either use a gas torch on the fleece or paint with a clear lacquer to stop water seeping up from the gutter
Or a heat gun I guess would work too.
Looks great. Just a note to anyone doing a similar build. Fit red caps to fixings around any skylights.
It's always best practice when putting on flashings to install a timber batton in between the wall and flashing which is shorter/narrower than the flashing to allow water to drip off the flashing and not run down the wall
Thanks for taking the time to show us the finer details of the project...
Great vid...true to real life (starting a project and finishing it in a final push some time later).
Maybe heat gun and scraper to get rid of the wicking at the eaves?
Thank you for sharing the mistakes you make, it's so refreshing and reassuring! 👍👍👍👍😊
thats why iuse screws ,-)
I thought it was the workshop build for a minute I thought you'd cut us out and cracked on with the cladding without us 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great job. A bit of bitumen paint under the gutter edge of sheets cured the wicking problem on my horse stables.
When I built my workshop I used Isoflex liquid rubber paint on the gutter ends.
Keep up the good work 👍🏻
I fit these mental sheets daily almost on the edge it's not meant to have the anti con so the water doesn't soak in to it
Also good practice to run a Stanley knife along the underside that over laps the gutter and then just peel it off! This will stop it running up the anti con and rotting the purlins
hi mate - so the felt lining on the back - you need to strip that away where the roof hangs over the exterior wall? at the moment iv got a frame up and my roof is a 3x2 frame but iv put sheets of OSB on the exterior side - i was weighing up getting some of these felt lined box profile to stick on top of the OSB instead of felt and then obviously use the box/edging to finish it off neatly so any advice would be appreciated thanks.
On the last two inches of the sheet what goes into the gutter burn the anti con with a blowtorch and that will stop the water tracking back up the sheet
When we use the anti-condensation on the steel sjeets we give it a quick coat of varnish along the lower edge - that seems to stop it wicking up the sheet. Might be worth trying it before trying anything too destructive.
You can use a small torch to burn the ends of the felt to stop it wicking from the gutter. Easier than cutting it away 👌🏻
That was exactly my hope... with a bucket of water on standby!
Maybe try a product like Rain x or another condensation repellent on the clear plastic sheets?
Assuming that removing the felting at the gutter end doesn't cure your issue that is.
Remove anti-con with blow torch, carefully 👍
I've got similar roofing to replace my old garage roof. Somewhat delayed over the last couple of months as originally supplied incorrectly without drip coat. I learned about the issue of water wicking back up the drip coat and spent a couple of hours removing it from the bottom 150mm of each sheet. So spotted that you had not taken it off. As someone else had commented, a technique used in the states seems to be burning the edge with a blow touch, this stops the drip coat absorbing water.. Nice job as always.
A membrane below the steel roof --would have collected all the condensation.. cheap membrane --not Tyvek.. anyways good job. Had me worried with first board... 10/10
As well as the felt backer on the sheets or instead of?
@@handle1196 in theory the felt liner on the back should stop any condensation because it stops any air hitting the cold metal!
Thank you. Where can I get felt liner please? Wickes does not appear to sell it. @@s1dew1nd3r4
Whereabouts did you buy the roofing from as I would like to use something like this myself for my new shed. Thanks
I’ve used the same profile roof as they have and in anthracite colour, you can get these complete with the fixings etc from a company called Cladco based in Okehampton. 👍🏼
Them nail guns are amazing tools. Bit of a pain to get out after though 😎
How do you stop the rain water from going back in under the roof and into the shed ?
You can carefully use a blow torch and burn it of the edge Tim but don't torch it too much
I’ve just had a similar single pitch shed built for me yesterday. Single skin steel roof cladding with separate con membrane attached to rafters below. Was concerned that the open ridges at the overhangs would let rain in as no foam fillers were used. Also let’s daylight in like yours.
I guess it’s done this way to allow the roof & membrane to breath? Do you find rain gets in there if there’s a driving wind?
Beard looks smart
Do you have the details of where the roof materials are from please
would like that too - found if you search on FB marketplace for box profile roofing you should find a few sellers at least - its the felt lined stuff you want ideally as it stops condensation on the inside then from the air hitting the cold metal of the roof!
My shed roof is constructed from timber tongue and groove covered with breathable membrane then covered with felt shingles I.e. type on 1 M sheets. I also get wicking at the gutter end, as I suspect that I didn’t leave enough overhang of the roof. Problem is wood is now going black inside so I will have to extend roof overhang. Lessons learned!
Did you wrap the membrane over the edge with the gutter and fasten it from the underside?
Yes initially but that appeared to be causing problem so cut back to edge of timber where felt overlap into gutter finishes. Still a problem so now planning to extend roof overhang by 300mm out from edge of building
@@03Timm Hmm, maybe a problem with capillary wicking? Or lack of a drip edge? I'm about to replace a leaking and condensate covered metal roof by installing 11mm OSB, painting bitumen on the edges, stapling a sheet of DPC then screwing down the original metal roof panels with roofing screws and roof sealant (not tape) at the joins. Fingers crossed it works. I might also add some polystyrene insulation on the inside of the OSB when done.
@@jonathan1427 Maybe try the interlocking OSB if budget permits and also consider timber roofing battens on top of OSB to fix metal roofing to provide air flow. Peter Parfitt ‘New Brit Workshop’ shows technique on his garden shed build.
I have drip edge from 300mm wide felt strip tacked to timber at right angles, as per supplier instructions, just don’t think edge is far enough away from side of building
@@03Timm Thanks for the advice, my roof is small enough to only need one OSB sheet per side, but adding battens is a great idea, I even have a few metres knocking around! I might even have a roll of flashing somewhere that could be bent into a drip edge.
Great to see this project completed. Looks really good. And that beard is 👍🏻👍🏻
Excellent Video, answered my question of mixing single sheet lengths with roof lights. Doesn't seem to be a problem.
Thank you Team, nice build cool tips.
Just wait for the anticon to dry then paint with waterproof pva or burn with brazing torch carefully plus you need the foam fillers for eaves and top flashing
You don’t use foam fillers when using sheets with no con drop fleece. The roof needs an airflow to allow the fleece to dry out
@@donfer1974 I was wondering the same thing as I have a new anti-con roof waiting to replace my old garage roof and it came with foam inserts but I was unsure whether or not to use them. Is there info on this somewhere?
When ever you build a shed you will always find that you haven’t made it big enough for your stuff,(Sod’s law)
Level gutter Tim? Should we be putting a fall in it? Roof sheets are great, nice job. Depressing looking at the beautiful sunny weather....I keep thinking spring is here but it was snowing here in Edinburgh today! 🤦🏻♂️
No need for fall when it is this short a distance. You can go level up to 10m as a rule of thumb.
Level brackets as in 90 to the wall. There is 15-20mm fall on the length. 👍
@@TheRestorationCouple ah cool, thanks. Nice job
@@steenfraosterbro3268 cool, thanks 👍🏼
NOOICE!
Would you use this roof for a summer house/ garden room with insulation and an air gap between the roofing and insulation. Just trying to keep costs down on my 3x7m build and that's that's lot of plywood and rubber or felt roofing.!!
I subscribe this is video I needed
I was yelling at the screen the first time you nailed up the board "Tim you didn't flip it!"
Me too
Yep, I think when you put the first board up....‘he’s fitting that the wrong way up’...!!!...lol...
It’s tough to watch back let alone leave in the video but ‘warts and all’! 👍
@@TheRestorationCouple...yep, we’ve all been there at some time, usually when in a rush...😂🤣😂🤣😂...
Hello! Love your content 😁
What’s the name of the roof and the cover trim please. I need this to go over my pond thanks 👍🏻
Did pealing the Anti con back 50mm work? As I have the same issue.
Yeah that's what we have done on the last two roofs and works fine. You can melt it a little with a blow torch after to get rid of any last bit of fluff but usually peels in one piece fine.
Perhaps hit the anti-con with a solvent like acetone along the edge rather than trying to mechanically peel it off.
Did you not put OSB under the roof because your not supposed to, or was it to keep cost down 👍
Same question lol
Additional improvements can be to paint the roof white on both side to reflect heat and to maximise light inside. Keep the metal roof edging and gutter as is. Another is hooking your down pipe gutter to a water tank for your garden.
So wish I had gone this route , I went with the bitumen roofing sheets and they sag after time
How badly? I was just about to cover my shed with them.. perhaps just needs a few more supports?
@@slozenger9000 even with supports after they get wet and dry and get wet dry again they eventually go, If I were you I would lay them on top of of some sheet timber supported by batons and make sure the sheets are well angles for draining
I have the same (or similar roof) and get crazy condensation from it. I have no felt lining up there unfortunately and was wondering if you have any tips? I really want to insulate from floor to roof. Would this be possible with this type of roof? It is a detached single skin brick garage. Thanks. Love what you do, it's so inspirational. 👍
If there is, try to stop any humidity/water from coming in, and add ventilation with vents
Hi redline Rossi , I have the Same problem!! Wish I had seen the anti condensation sheets before I ordered the standard ones.
Did you come up with a solution for yours?
@@MatLampitt Hi Mat, not a solution as such, but more of a patch for now. I have paid for a decent dehumidifier which does the job. I will get the roof done eventually though 😆
Good luck with your roof 👍
@@RedlineRossi I was really hoping for a solution when I saw the reply notification. Hahaha.
One suggestion I have had is taking the sheets back off, laying a breathable roofing membrane, putting some 25mm battons accros and then putting the sheeting back on.
The idea being it will increase airflow and if ever there is condensation that drips it will just drip onto the roofing membrane and flow down and out into guttering.
When are you going to do a video of finishing the interior? Are you going to put in insulation and then chipboard or plywood?
can you put that cladding onto brick wall shed/ garden wall?
What make were the boards, also do you find theres any benefit of decking the roof in 11mm osb before the metal sheets or not? I want to totally eliminate any drips when i do a dual pitched external shed of brick construction.
Thanks for sharing¡¡ Iam building something similar and I was told that zinc roof might have issues woth condensation and mousture will go inside. Have you had any of this?. Thanks again.
Not with the anticon lining. Other option is the insulated version as in our more recent build.
To see you popping up & down through the roof makes me think of "whack a mole" at the country fair. Quite funny. ha ha
Hi mate - quick one for you, on my timber framed shed - when i done the roof i have done a overhanged roof frame but have put a couple of sheets of OSB screwed into the frame, this box profile felt lined roofing can that be fixed straight ontop of my OSB to remove the need for using felt or would i be better removing the OSB and fixing it straight onto the framed out roof? plus think it looks a lot better with the edge trimming etc finishing the roof off nicely rather than using felt.
You could go on top of osb but unless you had anti con you may end up with condensation forming between roof panel and osb. Also fixings would likely show through osb so still only fix where the structure is.
Hi Tim, what is the noise like when it rains
How is it for condensation?
Wouldn't you have liked another 10 inches head height in both out building or was it a planning issue?
Anyone know what those roof fascia trim things are called? It's exactly what I need on my shed
Barge boards
Is it a called a 'dripstop' attached to the roof sheets to prevent condensation?
Yeah.
At 15.01 what is the box metal your putting up mate I need this for my concrete shed
That was funny ) flip the top board... )
Embrace the beard, helps keep the face warm when working outside.
Do these roofs sweat ie condensation?
I'm wondering why you would want to fix screws through the valleys... in the end they'll always begin to leak and rot the beams below
Box profile is recommended to be fixed through the valley of the sheet. If fixed correctly the screws should remain leak free for 15 to 20 years.
Strange, I found myself shouting, "That feather edge is the wrong way around", and then you corrected it. We do silly things when things are so simple to do. Not concentrating fully because it's easy to do. Focus Man, focus! Ha, ha, ha.
usually thinking of the next steps :-)
Are these roof panels in Anthracite colour?
Yes.
I wonder if insulated panels are a better idea in a warmer climate? My shed doubles up as a gym and so a metal roof would transform it into a furnace during the summer months. Maybe insulated roof panels (like the wall panels on the workshop would be a better all-in-one solution? (rather than time/cost involved in OSB boards, insulation and a rubber roof cover)
Anybody have any experience in a similar situation?
That’s what’s going on the workshop today. 👍 all depends what you are using it for I guess.
Insulated panels kingspan or similar cool the building in summer you would be suprised, ive been fitting them for 28 yrs.👍👍
Your voice sounds funny, Ron Howard.
Where did you order the roof from? Wickes or did I miss that? The screen shot you included would is a great help... I'm looking to build something similar.
Colour clad but lots of suppliers around.
Brilliant, thank you.
I detest the American saying...swap this out....just say change it....replace it....English does not have to bastardised....
Spooky. Just re-watched the build today...
Did Jo handle 'patina-ing' the shed door? It looks very rustic. 8-)
I can’t even remember which room that came out of but it’s how we found it. I’ll get round to making a new one soon but for now it does the job. 😀
Was that Price Harry working for you before the lock down?
When your head popped out I 100% expected to hear you say "Scott Brown here"
I thought the same thing :-)
Do you get condensation on the roof in the winter drips?💧
No, it has an anti con lining.
Aww a big "shed" and a workshop that's my dream! and I have neither and my house purchase has just fallen though so probably another 6 months of house hunting 😒. Good work though.
You need eaves and ridge fillers.
Not for sheets with no con drop fleece you don’t. The roof needs to be ventilated to allow the fleece to dry out
@@donfer1974 The roof is only one skin. There is no void. This is not like a flat roof roof which needs careful consideration to ventilation and warm/cold skins.
@@colin1729 the fleece absorbs any moisture which would normally drip on a standard metal sheet without the fleece. If the fleece does not have any airflow it can’t dry. If it can’t dry it will start to drip as the fleece will only absorb so much moisture. All cladding manufacturers will stipulate that fillers are not to be fitted on no con drop.
@@donfer1974 He is roofing a shed. No method of heating the shed was shown. You don't get condensation when there is not a temp drop. You do get blown snow and/or rain at eaves level. Hence the breathable foam is used.
@@colin1729 trust me on a single skin metal roof with no heating you will get condensation. The fillers are either polyethylene or Epdm. Neither of these are breathable. With a decent roof pitch or flashings that cover a decent amount you will not get rain or snow inside the building
Vertical storage!!!
Turkey.
I thought just saw Johnny Bairstow
have you had it checked for electrical safety ???
Lockdown beard!!
Have been seriously flirting with the idea of building a replica but have been using not being confident on how to do the roof as an excuse not to start! No excuses now... 😂
Hi may I ask where you got the screw caps from we need some and can’t find them on screw fix etc
Any roofing website or Amazon. I have a bag of 1000 here!
@@TheRestorationCouple thanks we have the same roof and find the end of the sheets the water comes back into the sheets as well trying to find a way to stop it
I didn't see no bird blocker for the roof
Where's the door!!! 😢
2023
Was gonna say that boards the wrong way up lol
We're planning to build a poultry house this summer, the anti condensation roof is very interesting, perhaps you can tell us where you obtained it. I'm not the only person enquiring.
These were colour clad. Usually local suppliers around though. Anti con is added in the factory when you order. Good option for livestock and unlikely to harbour mites like felted roofs on coops. That or 30-40 insulated panels, wipe clean inside too. That said, poultry love pecking insulation so the ends would need capping.
@@TheRestorationCouple Many thanks.
lol..... I was shouting at the screen, that's not the right way. :)
With that beard, you could stand in for Prince Harry.
YES I’m first 😃😀😄😁
Grow the beard back!
remarkable how little information was conveyed in this video, if ye didnt know how to do it before watching, u definitely wouldnt know how to do it after watching!