Designing The Ultimate Cyberpunk Suspension - Kinematics

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  • Project 66 is where I am making the car "type 66 hoon" from cyberpunk 2077 in real life. This time I am making an optimization algorithm to design the suspension hardpoints.
    Join the discord! / discord
    Papers the optimization were based off of:
    www.jhuapl.edu/SPSA/PDF-SPSA/...
    arxiv.org/pdf/1412.6980
    Github for the optimization code: github.com/wingandstache/RACE...
    RACE Software: race.software/
    Music by Epidemic Sound www.epidemicsound.com
    This is an unofficial fan work and is not approved/endorsed by CD PROJEKT RED
    0:00 Intro
    0:26 Design Goals
    1:23 Analysis Software
    2:07 Explaining Key Performance Indicators
    9:24 How To Optimize Suspension
    17:29 Next Steps
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  • @Project66Hoon
    @Project66Hoon  หลายเดือนก่อน +145

    Calling all automotive engineers / manufacturers! I want to interview you! There are still many unknowns to me about the process of engineering a car from scratch. If you know anything about the process of designing a car, how any particular part of a car is designed or manufactured, I would love to talk to you. Please feel free to reach out to me. If you want to speak directly to me, please send me a message through discord (in the description) or my email (in the channel's about section). I want to learn, and I want to share that knowledge with all of those who watch my videos.

    • @grantlauzon5237
      @grantlauzon5237 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      I'm sure you've already checked, but make sure your model has space for 6in of vertical suspension travel with the wheels on and steering. Many video games either have the wheels clip through fenders or they animate the wheels steering less than the physics would imply (Forza and GTA V do this (haven't played Cyberpunk)).
      Forza 1 didn't fake the visuals and on LMP cars you could steer through the inner part of the car because all cars in Forza have the same steering lock.

    • @Project66Hoon
      @Project66Hoon  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@grantlauzon5237 I'm making sure of that. Thanks for the suggestion though!

    • @Pillow_Princess
      @Pillow_Princess 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      You should get in contact with Burning Wrenches here on TH-cam. Pretty sure that mad lad could give you some tips on building a Quadra since he's building one himself. He seems to be mostly focused on the aesthetics and body-design of a Quadra and not so much the actual performance of it, but I'd wager he's THE expert if you want your Quadra to look like a Quadra.

    • @BrakeForLoop
      @BrakeForLoop 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Street Bandito might have some connections. They made a carbon fiber EV based on a 240Z.

    • @TheWisdom3
      @TheWisdom3 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Superfastmatt just build an offroad dodge viper,. He made his own suspension.

  • @stealther1401
    @stealther1401 หลายเดือนก่อน +547

    More info learnt in 60 minutes (kept pausing and taking notes) than years of education... some serious vehicle suspension insights gained here. Came for the hoon, left feeling like a new man.

    • @Project66Hoon
      @Project66Hoon  หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      Be sure to check out RACE's website too, which is where I learned most of this. They have been super helpful in this process.

    • @BatPoopBatPoopBatPoop
      @BatPoopBatPoopBatPoop 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You must’ve not been paying attention in school lil bro, unless ur talking about highschool which doesn’t count

  • @x1l3f86
    @x1l3f86 หลายเดือนก่อน +355

    Wait? Calculus? Beautiful plots? Great engineering explanation? AND Cyberpunk 2077??? Dude I'm in love! Nice work!

  • @mennonis
    @mennonis หลายเดือนก่อน +188

    ok I might have underestimated how complex automotive engineering is

    • @user-mn8lz7gf6d
      @user-mn8lz7gf6d 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      and this is just one type of suspension...

  • @stratos2
    @stratos2 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    It is so cool to see someone take a proper engineering approach to building a project car instead of just guessing and hoping. It being the quadra 66 from cyberpunk makes it even more awesome, though I would have loved to see one of the street going versions. Either way, I'm instantly subscribed, and I hope to see this car in reality at some point in time. it is awesome! Not to mention the super well explained and illustrated video with open source code. A little side note perhaps, if you try to push yourself to be better with every video, that is commendable, but at some point youtube will no longer give you the same growth as a rewards for said effort. Be careful about burnout, your current video quality is already extremely good.

    • @Project66Hoon
      @Project66Hoon  หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Thank you! Oh, don't worry, there will be plenty of guessing and hoping. It will just be educated guessing and hoping. I am quite aware of burnout, so I take brakes when needed, which is part of why this video took so long. Plus, I want to post videos that I can be proud of.

    • @hakijin
      @hakijin 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Bethesda could never

    • @BloPsy__
      @BloPsy__ 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hakijin 16 times the detail

  • @m_remon
    @m_remon หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    This went from automotive engineering to CS in an instant, luckily for me I love both. Great work

  • @este_marco
    @este_marco หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    i am SO glad that some gamer kids grew up into engineers. you gain a sub bc this is awesome!

  • @gwendante
    @gwendante หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Dude, that a project and a half right there. I wish you good luck!

  • @tjpprojects7192
    @tjpprojects7192 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    The best cyberpunk vehicle suspension is from the Bungie Era Halo Warthogs. It was so beautiful, but 343 had to make the suspension, "mOrE rEaLiStiC" in a SCIENCE FICTION game. All four tires had independant drive, steering, and levered suspension, and it was glorious. It looked really cool the way it worked. I really hate how 343 butchered Halo.

    • @Hawk7886
      @Hawk7886 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      The original game engine used only springs and spheres. It was fairly simplistic, but it sure was fun.

  • @nostamine2567
    @nostamine2567 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    There is absolutely no way you know alll this without being a fellow FSAE suspension dude like me ... literally no one else knows this stuff , besides a few guys that build drift cars and make their own suspension kits !!!! But nevertheless ... absolutely STUNING video !!! Also the "AI" values figuring method is cool , but u can always go with conventional methods , like choose the Caster 7deg like the most similar car to yours has , then tune the KPI to output the maximum Camber, at full turn, your tyre allows in the spec sheet etc etc , same with the bump steer , u just have to make it colliniar from front view with the top and lower A arms . And you will see ,that if u go deeper into the Anti Roll and Anti Squat geometries the A arm points will actually be super easy to find . BUT !!! U can put as much math as u want in this , the suspension design ALWAYS go hand in hand with the drivers needs , ALWAYS , if the driver says it should be more stable , u increase the caster or trail without thinking twice .

  • @evanlane1690
    @evanlane1690 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Excellent project! This has a great mix of technical knowledge, production quality and cool factor. It's going to blow up as long as you keep posting!

  • @dasphantom0439
    @dasphantom0439 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Dude, I'm in love. Automotive engineering and CS with awesome visuals and easy to follow explanations. Great work!

  • @smeltysmelty8419
    @smeltysmelty8419 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video had insane amount of detail! I have never seen explanation of the process on the project as clear as here. Keep it up!

  • @flameofphoenix5998
    @flameofphoenix5998 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Man how do you only have 354 (sorry 355 now, i pressed a button) subscribers? This video is beautifully made and scripted and you clearly know a *lot* about these topics.
    Happy to come along on this ride (pun fully intended)

  • @iLOLZU42
    @iLOLZU42 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is such a cool and informative project, very excited to see where you go and to learn as well!

  • @higginsisaac
    @higginsisaac 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Didn’t think I was going to learn about machine learning in an automotive engineering video, awesome stuff

  • @jovanfragosa07
    @jovanfragosa07 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Had to subscribe! The amount of work put into the video and how relatively easy to digest the information is amazing. So happy you popped up in my recommended!

  • @CyberDunk2077
    @CyberDunk2077 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This channel is going to blow up! After 10 minutes of watching I subscribed. The video was so good and engaging I thought it was an already established TH-camr, then saw how many subscribers you got… I learned a lot from this video and I look forward to watching more of your content, keep up the good work!.

  • @sepehrbagheri2963
    @sepehrbagheri2963 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is one of the greatest times I've spent on TH-cam. Thank you so much for the content. Please keep them coming

  • @thetitus3137
    @thetitus3137 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is awesome. Building a car from cyberpunk is something I've been wanting to do for years now but have had no idea where to even begin. It's great to see someone else getting a head start on things!

  • @_Escaflowne_
    @_Escaflowne_ 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Didn't expect to learn so much about machine learning in a car suspension video. Very cool project, I wish you good luck.

  • @ashernelson7654
    @ashernelson7654 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is a super cool project, and really well thought out!! Cannot wait to see you develop further :)

  • @casiquekibra
    @casiquekibra 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm completely blown away. Impressive video! Learned so much

  • @maxreyes8494
    @maxreyes8494 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow, didn't know I was working with a genius!!! Nice work, SS!

  • @Diplomkeks
    @Diplomkeks หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will definitely follow along! I really liked the explanations of the different suspension KPIs.

  • @ThatThrowAwayAccount-tz8ly
    @ThatThrowAwayAccount-tz8ly 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Man I love this kinda stuff, people making cars from scratch and going into all the nitty gritty technicalities + it’s rather educational and I learn a lot. Definitely earned a sub, wish I could sub more then once :D

  • @hyrumdetton12
    @hyrumdetton12 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is HYPE. I'm excited to see this project progress!

  • @you_just
    @you_just หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    lovely application of gradient descent! great engineering work!

  • @bradnelson7365
    @bradnelson7365 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This video is under viewed!! Keep up the amazing work - you’ve got a new subscriber.

  • @leolehane9988
    @leolehane9988 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this video is a huge step in quality from the last, you should fee proud of yourself! keep at this project, I'd love to see what comes of it. I myself have a few projects going with making custom vehicles, but mine are still in concept.

  • @Skillnoob_
    @Skillnoob_ 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video! I'm very interested in the project and the explanations in the video are really good.

  • @gibby3820
    @gibby3820 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This itched my brain on all my fronts, thank you

  • @sjorsikdus
    @sjorsikdus หลายเดือนก่อน

    very exited to see the result of this great endeavour! you earned a sub ;) a bit theory heavy but all of that clearly explained in 18 minutes? i'm impressed

  • @runsomeware
    @runsomeware 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    yooo thats the most complete suspension explanation ive ever heard! thank you!

  • @harry1010
    @harry1010 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    computational optimisation?! in my car video?! Brilliant! Well done!

  • @LossBH
    @LossBH 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this is so damn cool. great video, great graphics as well. made it really easy to follow and understand explanations. loved it!

  • @ventousemoustachue
    @ventousemoustachue 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's an awesome project with beautiful explanations ❤

  • @kokonut5
    @kokonut5 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    TH-cam took 2 weeks to recommend me this gem. Kudos for the great video! Subbed

  • @jacobbainter7955
    @jacobbainter7955 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i needed this info years ago and here it is and it maskes sense

  • @bArda26
    @bArda26 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    that's pretty nice video with nice animations!

  • @liquighost7988
    @liquighost7988 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    very neat project, I'm excited to see where you go with it.

  • @BlahBlah-wp9gr
    @BlahBlah-wp9gr 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    super informative video, really hope this channel blows up.

  • @hugomazeas4297
    @hugomazeas4297 หลายเดือนก่อน

    video quality stepped up! Animations were awesome too

  • @yohannz2298
    @yohannz2298 หลายเดือนก่อน

    insane thank you so much for all this nice and condensed knowledge ! 🤯

  • @Pauglin
    @Pauglin หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is very cool. Watched all your videos and I wish you luck with the project.

  • @dwarnich
    @dwarnich 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for enriching my life! Great to now understand SPSA (was debugging CUDA code this week and it all makes a lot more sense now >.

  • @kekeklol3705
    @kekeklol3705 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video I’m really looking forward to your new videos

  • @realchiefyt-envtuber9903
    @realchiefyt-envtuber9903 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would love to see this driving and possible get to drive it. I am a huge fan of cyberpunk and have had plans of building this vehicle myself. Much luck to you and I hope that we get more on the project!

  • @HorizonSniper__
    @HorizonSniper__ 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oh, another Cyberpunk car being built IRL, that's so cool!

  • @mumblety
    @mumblety หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the quality of this video!

  • @ronanstam6127
    @ronanstam6127 หลายเดือนก่อน

    eyo what, this is so cool! i really hope your project succeeds!

  • @NIXO3D
    @NIXO3D หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome project! Well done, I'm impressed. Cyberpunk has also inspired me to build things. I'm currently working on a robotic idea that popped into my head thanks to Cyberpunk. I haven't played the game, but the concept of its world and all the inspiring ideas it contains give me so many cool robotic concepts. I've definitely subscribed and joined your discord to follow your project. Keep going! 👏🏽👍🏽

  • @zackdexter8285
    @zackdexter8285 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    after watching countless videos, I gotta say that you won for giving a "proper" explanation. even if it might only be scratching the surface, and even if you explained it all in the most simple way possible (you sounded like you were, or maybe you were just that good at explaining), you said more than most have/ever will!! congrats! I hope to see your channel grow

    • @Project66Hoon
      @Project66Hoon  19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly what I was going for. Thanks!

  • @serialten
    @serialten หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your video reached a suspension designer. awesome 🤠

  • @infinitysmp1710
    @infinitysmp1710 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    great video man

  • @akumabito2008
    @akumabito2008 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All hail the youtube algorithm! Found your channel at random, and insta-subbed. Nova presentation, choom! Good luck with your project!

  • @domovoi_0
    @domovoi_0 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Godlike.
    Love and blessings!

  • @not_a_therapist
    @not_a_therapist หลายเดือนก่อน

    augh, everything about this is so good.

  • @wraith8323
    @wraith8323 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For all of the horse manure on this platform work like this is why i stick around, well done 👏 👏👏

  • @spencertaylor5836
    @spencertaylor5836 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have plenty of experience with kinematics from my formula student team. With that in mind I was being nitpicky during the kinematics portion. The optimization portion was completely different, and I learned a ton. This is a great video and I hope to see you succeed in this project.

  • @leonardoalvarez7504
    @leonardoalvarez7504 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Now that was an engineering masterclass!
    Modeling, simulating, calculus, algorithms…
    Congrats dude, takes me back to university years😂❤

  • @amazin7006
    @amazin7006 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Top quality content from such a small channel, amazing stuff. You're like superfastmatt with maxed up int and lowered chr 😂

  • @Extner4
    @Extner4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow. I never knew such complicated engeneering went into the suspension alone... This is epic.

  • @sashgorokhov
    @sashgorokhov หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is top tier!

  • @prymsonify
    @prymsonify 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow... ammout of knoledge is huuuge! Instant sub!

  • @KutsugeMindUrmoks
    @KutsugeMindUrmoks หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome stuff

  • @calvincarman9068
    @calvincarman9068 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lets fuckin go bro,first I've seen on makin this thing

  • @puntloosPD
    @puntloosPD หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is going to be alot of fun

  • @GunslingerP
    @GunslingerP หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you algorithm for bringing me this absolute GEM of a channel! I have been thinking of doing something similar to this but instead converting an old Alfa Romeo to electric as a restomod project. I also would love to get sounds working through AngeTheGreat’s engine simulator.

  • @pacukluka
    @pacukluka หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn wasnt expecting great explanations on loss function design and the random direction trick for gradient descent

  • @BlaseAnDerHand
    @BlaseAnDerHand 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    great job

  • @plpGTR
    @plpGTR 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Instant subscription. Project66 has now 6660 Subscribers.

  • @xXDoUbLeDDXx38
    @xXDoUbLeDDXx38 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Man you better take this thing to SEMA after all the work you've put into it, this is a work of art. I guarantee you'll get a ton of love there.

    • @Project66Hoon
      @Project66Hoon  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think I might just do that

  • @anton.1101
    @anton.1101 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is damn stupendous!!

  • @leond4195
    @leond4195 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Keep going 😍

  • @otdoxnite
    @otdoxnite หลายเดือนก่อน

    yo man good luck with that

  • @Robin_the_owl
    @Robin_the_owl 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the only car i would want to see from cyberpunk in reallife would be the caliborn that thing is a beauty!

  • @Pro88teC
    @Pro88teC 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Okay iam hooked. Take my subscription.

  • @poopremoval
    @poopremoval หลายเดือนก่อน

    so freaking cool

  • @kiel9030
    @kiel9030 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Knowledge overload... Keep processing! bib bob...

  • @jame358
    @jame358 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the expansion of the list at 8:57 gave me a heart attack. god damn.

  • @Ryzard
    @Ryzard 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Brother, I clicked this thinking it would be like... Designing it in blender, or modding it into another game like corsa. WHAT AM I WATCHING GOOD GOD!

  • @martinjacobsen5974
    @martinjacobsen5974 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was like 10 secs in and subscribed

  • @este_marco
    @este_marco หลายเดือนก่อน

    also wanted to say to not change the thumbnail, it's perfect

  • @itsafish4600
    @itsafish4600 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is cool

  • @RavenRof
    @RavenRof หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is going to be fucking fun. Lets go.

  • @JTCF
    @JTCF หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These illustrations heavily remind me of a game called Dream Car 3D, it was a tech demo game where you could build a car using points and links, with suspension and steering needing to be modeled.

  • @Johnnyyoucantcatch
    @Johnnyyoucantcatch 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks

  • @garbearfar1394
    @garbearfar1394 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I literally had the exact same idea to build a type 66, I know nothing of car design or anything relating to cars but really want to learn and the thing I figured would be the biggest hurdle is the front suspension, but its such a major part of the design it wouldn't be right to leave it out XD

  • @LobsterFingers
    @LobsterFingers หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your channel just got recommended today, love the content. Have you decided on fabricating or finding a chassis yet?

    • @Project66Hoon
      @Project66Hoon  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm going to fabricate one

  • @romzero4486
    @romzero4486 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I realy would like to see a real life quadra, hope you will have the motivation to achieve this project

  • @AsthmaQueen
    @AsthmaQueen 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I know the Celica used a unique suspension to try and deal with camber issues when going over bumps but had extra moving parts that needed maintenance

  • @RyleyStorm
    @RyleyStorm หลายเดือนก่อน

    The red pixel that's dead in your hair makes me smile but I literally can't look at anything else while it's on screen lmao.

    • @Project66Hoon
      @Project66Hoon  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol, I bought a broken $60 DSLR camera off Facebook marketplace that I fixed, so I call it worth it.

  • @Javierm0n0
    @Javierm0n0 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm very interested in seeing how you end up changing your loss function when you get into real world testing. I hope you will be able to show the difference between your final function and your initial function so i'm definitely subbing. Fantastic project you've set forth here.

    • @Project66Hoon
      @Project66Hoon  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! I've already got a few suggestions that I am going to apply.

    • @Javierm0n0
      @Javierm0n0 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Project66Hoon also for the headlights, you could make the outer sides of the front grill-cover thing a smoke finish, which is usually a clear coat of paint over a light lens with a little bit of black paint mixed in. Searching smoked headlights can give you some good references for the efficacy.

  • @masonedwards7920
    @masonedwards7920 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a good fuckin' video, man

  • @novapuck703
    @novapuck703 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this reminds me a lot of project octane being made by "Mega Dookie" (I know a great name). Can't wait to see this as it develops :)

  • @movethebone2682
    @movethebone2682 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this brings me back to FSAE

  • @rat_king-
    @rat_king- 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For the love of god.. Love the project .. some points though:
    1) its suspension geometry. Not Key performance indicators. [at minimum suspension performance] KPI is the acronym for King Pin Inclination, an incline being an angle. , You will get confused. stop it.
    2) Hooning is drifiting and sliding.. acting like a hooligan. Understeer is a drivers nightmare. understeer is designed for normal passenger cars, because of insurance companies and crash safety. the hooligan does not care. Most of you have been drifting since mario kart. Even in front wheel drive cars.
    3) ackermann steering exists because of different turning radii. the fastest cars have, oversteer bias to strain the tyre more and gain more yaw accross the rear axle. (aka strain based rear steer)
    3b) negative ackerman is put on high aero cars, like F1 or Indiecar, you are building a street brick. negative ackerman is not going to help you here.
    4) wow, caster angle actively means almost nothing, when not inrelation trailing length. because as so many people get wrong. negative trail is unstable. you can have any angle to facilitate that.
    5) Please look up other cyberpunk cars. Other people are building stuff.

  • @guntherjager482
    @guntherjager482 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Big W please add a build plan when you are done lol

  • @frbrbrgrblgrr7777
    @frbrbrgrblgrr7777 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I will have to watch this but I know there is companies out there who will build a set up based on your needs. My S14 had it done, it was very hefty but I got exactly what I asked for in responsiveness but maintaining comfort similar to a GT car. I also am now going to analyze the hell out of Cyberpunk suspension as I only really dug into the Motor / Engines when I could see them and the thought process behind them.