I can't individually thank all of you who are supporting and welcoming me back, but I do thank all of you from my heart and appreciate you! I'll try to deliver fair, honest content as always to help everyone out as best I can!
Nice video. Personally I think auto supports are hit or miss, I have done a ton of experimenting, and what I can say is that as you said, "for some" this is more viable now, far more than it was. Is it perfect? No...will it ever be? Who knows the software is vastly improving by the month. I personally don't use UV tools, I detect islands at 3 different layer heights, and then fill in the shape perimeter of the model, I use a custom style for each type, but that is pretty much it. I will sometimes if I am in a hurry use autos to set some ground work, but I won't just trust that and island checks, I always validate slice by slice. Good to see you back btw.
I'm really happy to see you back mate, I hope you're well. Nice to see an up-to-date video about auto supports, I'm still relying on pre-supported models and auto-suports but I've never sliced a model for resin in Prusa Slicer but I love it for FDM (and just prefer it as a piece of software to the others) so perhaps I'll give it a go.
Great to see you back! I love watching your vids as I get the cold hard truth (not like some other channels), and that means I’m more than happy to recommend you channel to my friends just starting out. I use Lychee auto supports when I need to get so,etching supported quickly but I’ll go through and check them before slicing and printing. Thanks to your extreme supports vid I’ve gone from resin goo to hardly having a failed print. Thank you for your dedication to 3D printing and sharing your knowledge with us mortals!
Good to see you again! I've been pleasantly surprised by Lychee's auto supports and island checker, but knowing how to properly support is still really helpful when you're looking over and reviewing them! It's exciting to be able to spend only a handful of minutes supporting a file instead of an hour or so for each mini!
I'm still a proponent overall of Lychee, but feel much the same with autosupports. Every once in a while, I'll test the waters to see if it's improved over doing them manually, but not only can you get 100% perfect supports doing them 'by hand', you'll use a tremendous number fewer supports over what I would call viable on autos. There's some niceties to having semi-automated helpers like for island checking, but yeah, when autos might take say 2500 supports versus me doing them and only needing 5-600, that's a massive resin saver despite needing a little more time upfront. Having certainly of getting zero failed prints reliably takes precedence for me.
I’ve found that on smaller to medium sized models in the action figure range that using your light support settings with a density percentage at 70%, makes using auto supports a breeze. Just printed a file cabinet drawer for a file cabinet model I’m working on in the 90’s action figure scale and it came out next to perfect. Very minimal scarring if any, they look like normal layer lines that you would expect and after painting they will be non existent. Thanks for this update video by the way. Dennys wang just made a similar video diving into auto supports and the way they are now it almost had it exactly how he would have done it manually, with a few exceptions like you said, still had to add and delete a few supports manually but it takes away hours of you having to fudge around with supports. Thanks god bless
tldw all three are around the same ish; Chit, prusa, lychee does auto supports better in that order but not by much. they all miss some supports so manual checking is required. recommend using UVtools to check for islands after. and again, some manual checking required afterwards.
I use a similar auto support approach. But I always auto support light on minis. Mediums will massively over-support most minis. Then I go through and fiddle with a few of those lights where needed, upgrading to medium where the extra strength is needed.
I think you should be able to save separate settings for miniatures, large miniatures, or small statues and large statues, too. Even just huge prints and small miniature support settings would be great. Also, it was great to see you again. I hope you and your family are doing well.
I'm kind of new to the resin community, so I don't know the reason for the hiatus. I will say though that your tutorials REALLY helped me out! 🎉 Thanks for everything and welcome back!
Well said.. tbh, this is the #1 thing that companies like Lychee should be working on for the subscription that we pay. Smart auto supports that will adjust the size automatically based on the layer size.. and supports that don't just address islands but the overall "weight" of the model and layer size. The other thing I dislike about auto supports is that they always put supports on the edge instead of right next to the edge. As a result, the edge will be ruined with missing chunks when supports are removed.
Thanks for the video. The feature I'd love is to be able to place manual supports first and then run auto supports. Drives me nuts some times that I have to run auto first then go back through this mess of supports to double check areas of concern. Some settings have made this less bothersome but I'd much prefer being to slap down my 5 to 10 supports I know I want then let the slicer fill in the rest.
I feel like these slicers should take advantage of / make their own version of uvtools. It should be as simple as running that, then supporting all islands found.
I have a different experience. I've haven't had an issue to the point of failures using lychee autos and island detection in a long time. I DONT use auto orientation though... that always seems dead ass wrong in Lychee. I do use custom support settings though, as the default lychee seem like overkill. UVTools can also seriously fuck up you model if you're not experienced with how it works. Great for detecting islands, resin traps, etc., but can cause MAJOR deformities if you're not conscious about it. Great program, but i wouldn't go into it without understanding it first. I honestly haven't used it in probably a year, and even recently when i ran a model through it, 99% of it was 1 pixel islands which had zero impact on the print. I have not had any support related issues or model defects using only Lychee. The new beta also just added a new support structure for rigidity and stability, which on the surface seems substantial for taller prints. Good to see ya back though. Without you and Dennys Wang dialing, in my prints would've been a crap shoot over the years.
I must agree with you here, i have mostly had nothing but good results with Lychee and found it was better then chitu. I have not resin printed for over a year however and i know chitubox has had many updates
Yea, I've heard Chitu is A LOT better than it was. I've also got no reason to try it. Until Lychee gives me fails, don't fix what ain't broke. I would say same boat if you use Chitu. If it ain't givin you problems, don't switch.
🎯 Key points for quick navigation: 00:00 *🛠️ Auto supports overview* - Auto supports have improved over the years and are now more viable for users. 01:00 *🧩 Differences between slicers for auto supports* - Chitubox had the most supported islands, followed by Prusa and Lychee, with minimal misses. - Auto supports in all three slicers occasionally missed supporting islands fully. 03:21 *🛡️ Tips for using auto supports effectively* - Place heavy supports first, then medium and light supports. - Double-check each support placement to ensure it touches the lowest point needed. - Use UV tools to verify all islands have been supported after using auto supports. Made with HARPA AI
I’m using a FormLabs Form 3+.. and so far it really has been a 1 click setup.. i was really surprised at their algorithm.. so far zero fails.. also Nice to have 3d space mouse support inside Preform as well. (Having said that.. dear god.. can we please have a dark mode!) - I’m glad that the other slicers are getting better.. and that auto-supports have progressed. I totally agree with you.. at this point AI should be able to do physics calculations to do better supports and better distribute large medium and small where it makes real world sense… though.
Thanks for the comparison! This matches my experience with lychee and chitu (never used prusa so far) Lychee auto supports suck big time, chitu is WAY ahead and the auto supports are very much usable. after hitting the AS button i normally look them through - adding or removing some - and the model is good to print. i am mostly printing models from 1:12 up to 1:4 scales (around 10 to 20 models per week) and the AS help a lot. As much i would like to use lychee on a daily basis due to overall being a much better software with a better workflow (let´s wait for. chitu 2.0 though) the super bad autosupports brought me back to chitubox.
But I can't do what you say. If I set manual heavy supports first. The auto support then tells me it'll have to remove my supports to do the auto support feature. How do you use the hearts first, then run auto support?? Lychee pro wont let me.
I know this is old and you've prolly figured something out but I click on light support then manually to heavy and delete the lights that aren't needed. Heavy support should only be needed to hold a lot of weight.
Wanted to mention something that you did not cover (or probably do not know). In Lychee, at least the pro version, when you change the layer height in the resin settings to 10 micron, it will detect even more islands with island detection and be more precise with the tip placement and you will have very few islands marked in UV Tools
@@3dprintingpro212 try a work flow of auto support on island…first 50um…then 25um and finally 20um…it might solve the issue of slightly missing the lowest part of the model
Whats your email? I’d love to check out the long videos. I just recently got back into 3-D printing after a year hiatus. I don’t have the time I used to as we had our fourth child. I had several subscriptions on Patreon for sculptures so my mymini factory is full of prints that need to be done. I just started my DND campaign back up and would really like to be able to print off as many minis with the least amount of work as possible. So auto support sound great to me. I’ve had surprisingly good results with chuitbox so far. I noticed if you have the density low on heavy supports, and then the density medium on medium supports, and then the density high on light support it fills in the model better than if you just pick one size and hit auto support. I’m hitting auto support three times with three different settings and seems to be getting better supported model. I’m not really sure about the settings though, as I’m not quite sure what I’m doing with the support setting. I’d love some further info on how this can be used efficiently with the correct settings on all the support tabs. Thank you!
I’m waiting for someone to utilize artificial intelligence to make supporting models a cinch. I feel like there is plenty of data set to make this work.
I can't individually thank all of you who are supporting and welcoming me back, but I do thank all of you from my heart and appreciate you! I'll try to deliver fair, honest content as always to help everyone out as best I can!
Nice video. Personally I think auto supports are hit or miss, I have done a ton of experimenting, and what I can say is that as you said, "for some" this is more viable now, far more than it was. Is it perfect? No...will it ever be? Who knows the software is vastly improving by the month. I personally don't use UV tools, I detect islands at 3 different layer heights, and then fill in the shape perimeter of the model, I use a custom style for each type, but that is pretty much it. I will sometimes if I am in a hurry use autos to set some ground work, but I won't just trust that and island checks, I always validate slice by slice. Good to see you back btw.
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Happy to see you back on here!
Holy shit ! The god of 3D printing is back 😍🙏 hope u feel well.
The guy who taught me to support my print 👍 glad to see you back my man
Good to see you back!!!
I'm really happy to see you back mate, I hope you're well. Nice to see an up-to-date video about auto supports, I'm still relying on pre-supported models and auto-suports but I've never sliced a model for resin in Prusa Slicer but I love it for FDM (and just prefer it as a piece of software to the others) so perhaps I'll give it a go.
I'm really glad to see you again and would love a video showing your support settings in 2024
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Great to see you back! I love watching your vids as I get the cold hard truth (not like some other channels), and that means I’m more than happy to recommend you channel to my friends just starting out. I use Lychee auto supports when I need to get so,etching supported quickly but I’ll go through and check them before slicing and printing. Thanks to your extreme supports vid I’ve gone from resin goo to hardly having a failed print. Thank you for your dedication to 3D printing and sharing your knowledge with us mortals!
Welcome back! Great to have your knowledge back on the scene.
Good to see you again! I've been pleasantly surprised by Lychee's auto supports and island checker, but knowing how to properly support is still really helpful when you're looking over and reviewing them! It's exciting to be able to spend only a handful of minutes supporting a file instead of an hour or so for each mini!
Love to hear this update from the man himself, and everything you're saying sounds like something I want out of auto supports as well. Good stuff!
Missed you! Glad you’re back!
Welcome back King, glad to see you here !
Hey Greg,Good to see you. I always use auto supports, then add more if needed.
Welcome back! Thanks for the update, has certainly been some changes
Best resin printing teacher on the internet! thans s much for sharing yor knowledge
Happy to see a new 3DPrintingPro video this morning. Hope all is well!
YAY you're back! Glad to have caught this on the first day, seems YT unclicked me.
Welcome back! I often hear people say to use auto-supports, and then check them. I sometimes do that but I usually do it manually.
Good to see you again sir. Thank you for the tips.
Good to have you back, looking forward to more videos
Great to see you again, hope you are doing well.
Was super excited to see this video pop up on my feed!
Welcome back youbhave been missed a lot.
Great to see you back!
I'm still a proponent overall of Lychee, but feel much the same with autosupports. Every once in a while, I'll test the waters to see if it's improved over doing them manually, but not only can you get 100% perfect supports doing them 'by hand', you'll use a tremendous number fewer supports over what I would call viable on autos. There's some niceties to having semi-automated helpers like for island checking, but yeah, when autos might take say 2500 supports versus me doing them and only needing 5-600, that's a massive resin saver despite needing a little more time upfront. Having certainly of getting zero failed prints reliably takes precedence for me.
he's baaaack!!!
Good to see you back my friend
Great to get another update on this you're my first resource
So good to see you back, man.
Welcome back been a LONGTIME!!!!
Welcome back Thanks for the insightful video and suggestions
I’ve found that on smaller to medium sized models in the action figure range that using your light support settings with a density percentage at 70%, makes using auto supports a breeze. Just printed a file cabinet drawer for a file cabinet model I’m working on in the 90’s action figure scale and it came out next to perfect. Very minimal scarring if any, they look like normal layer lines that you would expect and after painting they will be non existent. Thanks for this update video by the way. Dennys wang just made a similar video diving into auto supports and the way they are now it almost had it exactly how he would have done it manually, with a few exceptions like you said, still had to add and delete a few supports manually but it takes away hours of you having to fudge around with supports. Thanks god bless
tldw
all three are around the same ish; Chit, prusa, lychee does auto supports better in that order but not by much.
they all miss some supports so manual checking is required.
recommend using UVtools to check for islands after. and again, some manual checking required afterwards.
Great to see another video from you!!
A Spawn poster? You got a good taste.
The king is back!!!!
Welcome back sir!
Nice to see you. As always very interesting Thank you
I use a similar auto support approach. But I always auto support light on minis. Mediums will massively over-support most minis. Then I go through and fiddle with a few of those lights where needed, upgrading to medium where the extra strength is needed.
hello sir, long time no see or rather watch. Still top notch :)
I think you should be able to save separate settings for miniatures, large miniatures, or small statues and large statues, too. Even just huge prints and small miniature support settings would be great.
Also, it was great to see you again. I hope you and your family are doing well.
I'm kind of new to the resin community, so I don't know the reason for the hiatus. I will say though that your tutorials REALLY helped me out! 🎉
Thanks for everything and welcome back!
Welcome back!
Well said.. tbh, this is the #1 thing that companies like Lychee should be working on for the subscription that we pay. Smart auto supports that will adjust the size automatically based on the layer size.. and supports that don't just address islands but the overall "weight" of the model and layer size. The other thing I dislike about auto supports is that they always put supports on the edge instead of right next to the edge. As a result, the edge will be ruined with missing chunks when supports are removed.
Thanks for the video. The feature I'd love is to be able to place manual supports first and then run auto supports. Drives me nuts some times that I have to run auto first then go back through this mess of supports to double check areas of concern. Some settings have made this less bothersome but I'd much prefer being to slap down my 5 to 10 supports I know I want then let the slicer fill in the rest.
In Lychee you can set the support view to be invisible, only showing the contact points.
@@musashidanmcgrath It helps but still feels very cluttered.
@@hightde13 Yep, I fking HATE doing supports! 😂
Thank you for this video!
I feel like these slicers should take advantage of / make their own version of uvtools. It should be as simple as running that, then supporting all islands found.
I have a different experience. I've haven't had an issue to the point of failures using lychee autos and island detection in a long time. I DONT use auto orientation though... that always seems dead ass wrong in Lychee. I do use custom support settings though, as the default lychee seem like overkill.
UVTools can also seriously fuck up you model if you're not experienced with how it works. Great for detecting islands, resin traps, etc., but can cause MAJOR deformities if you're not conscious about it. Great program, but i wouldn't go into it without understanding it first.
I honestly haven't used it in probably a year, and even recently when i ran a model through it, 99% of it was 1 pixel islands which had zero impact on the print. I have not had any support related issues or model defects using only Lychee. The new beta also just added a new support structure for rigidity and stability, which on the surface seems substantial for taller prints.
Good to see ya back though. Without you and Dennys Wang dialing, in my prints would've been a crap shoot over the years.
I must agree with you here, i have mostly had nothing but good results with Lychee and found it was better then chitu. I have not resin printed for over a year however and i know chitubox has had many updates
Yea, I've heard Chitu is A LOT better than it was.
I've also got no reason to try it. Until Lychee gives me fails, don't fix what ain't broke.
I would say same boat if you use Chitu. If it ain't givin you problems, don't switch.
@@XxSTOZZYxX Exactly
🎯 Key points for quick navigation:
00:00 *🛠️ Auto supports overview*
- Auto supports have improved over the years and are now more viable for users.
01:00 *🧩 Differences between slicers for auto supports*
- Chitubox had the most supported islands, followed by Prusa and Lychee, with minimal misses.
- Auto supports in all three slicers occasionally missed supporting islands fully.
03:21 *🛡️ Tips for using auto supports effectively*
- Place heavy supports first, then medium and light supports.
- Double-check each support placement to ensure it touches the lowest point needed.
- Use UV tools to verify all islands have been supported after using auto supports.
Made with HARPA AI
I’m using a FormLabs Form 3+.. and so far it really has been a 1 click setup.. i was really surprised at their algorithm.. so far zero fails.. also Nice to have 3d space mouse support inside Preform as well. (Having said that.. dear god.. can we please have a dark mode!) - I’m glad that the other slicers are getting better.. and that auto-supports have progressed. I totally agree with you.. at this point AI should be able to do physics calculations to do better supports and better distribute large medium and small where it makes real world sense… though.
Thanks for the comparison! This matches my experience with lychee and chitu (never used prusa so far) Lychee auto supports suck big time, chitu is WAY ahead and the auto supports are very much usable. after hitting the AS button i normally look them through - adding or removing some - and the model is good to print. i am mostly printing models from 1:12 up to 1:4 scales (around 10 to 20 models per week) and the AS help a lot. As much i would like to use lychee on a daily basis due to overall being a much better software with a better workflow (let´s wait for. chitu 2.0 though) the super bad autosupports brought me back to chitubox.
I'm pretty sure UV tools algorithm is built into Lychee now and runs in the background when you run the island detector?
Yes…. You’re back…..
But I can't do what you say. If I set manual heavy supports first. The auto support then tells me it'll have to remove my supports to do the auto support feature. How do you use the hearts first, then run auto support?? Lychee pro wont let me.
I know this is old and you've prolly figured something out but I click on light support then manually to heavy and delete the lights that aren't needed. Heavy support should only be needed to hold a lot of weight.
Wanted to mention something that you did not cover (or probably do not know). In Lychee, at least the pro version, when you change the layer height in the resin settings to 10 micron, it will detect even more islands with island detection and be more precise with the tip placement and you will have very few islands marked in UV Tools
Missed ya' dude.
Hope slicer developper highly value your poit of view...manual supporting on complex piece is really a pain...
What about Voxeldance Tango?
if you change the UM setting on the printer on the printer from 50 to 25...it will catch more islands on auto support
My setting is 20 Um :)
@@3dprintingpro212 try a work flow of auto support on island…first 50um…then 25um and finally 20um…it might solve the issue of slightly missing the lowest part of the model
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Whats your email? I’d love to check out the long videos. I just recently got back into 3-D printing after a year hiatus. I don’t have the time I used to as we had our fourth child. I had several subscriptions on Patreon for sculptures so my mymini factory is full of prints that need to be done. I just started my DND campaign back up and would really like to be able to print off as many minis with the least amount of work as possible. So auto support sound great to me. I’ve had surprisingly good results with chuitbox so far. I noticed if you have the density low on heavy supports, and then the density medium on medium supports, and then the density high on light support it fills in the model better than if you just pick one size and hit auto support. I’m hitting auto support three times with three different settings and seems to be getting better supported model. I’m not really sure about the settings though, as I’m not quite sure what I’m doing with the support setting. I’d love some further info on how this can be used efficiently with the correct settings on all the support tabs. Thank you!
I’m waiting for someone to utilize artificial intelligence to make supporting models a cinch. I feel like there is plenty of data set to make this work.
Minor nit to pick - Lychee is pronounced Lee-Chee.
what do you think about UVTOOLS
Welcome back!
Welcome back!