My suspicion is, Ashton is basically the demi-god version of the Earth Primordial. The reason why I say this is because he passively absorbed the chaotic nature of the failed ritual that he was present for as a child. And when he was killed, early on in the campaign (per Ashton's own recounting of what happened), and he basically had a dodecahedron inserted into his head, the dodecahedron awakened the primordial side of him, that primordial spark. Basically, imagine The Thing from Fantastic Four, and the accident in space that created him, and you get Ashton in Critical Role. Plus, Taliesin is a self-admitted comic book nerd, so it wouldn't surprise me to learn that The Thing is what inspired Ashton's character creation, with a bit of chaos thrown in. That being said, we may get a second visit to Terra at some point, where Keyleth visited on her Aramente during C1. To my knowledge, it is the entry point the Elemental Plane of Earth, so Ashton may go there at some point to find out more about the Hishari and what exactly the ritual was, and what the Hishari was trying to accomplish with that ritual.
@isaiahwelch8066 He did not get a dodecahedron inserted. When Milo tried to save Ashtons life, he saw the bottle of extracted possibilty that Ashton picked up at the Hexon manor and held onto when he got attacked and thrown out the balcony. Milo took that bottle and in desperation he poured it into Ashtons broken skull.
@@Dragonited I don't think he meant an actual Dodecahedron, just the Hedron juice he was fed as he lay dying kind of merged with his titan blood to make him what he is. Essentially saying a dodecahedron in his head via the essence of it
@@JuiceMandem Yes the potion of possibilities is extracted from a dodecahedron but inserting an item vs pouring a liquid on a wound patched up with crystal and gold is a bit different.
@@isaiahwelch8066 chances of him becoming all powerful? I mean like Silver Surfer style. His story thus far has a lot of Mary Sue/John Doe elements going so with the primordial juice in him. I have a feeling he'll become a big player in the "Endgame" of this journey.
I know it was only a light connection but I really appreciated Keyleth linking Ashton with Grog through the titanstone knuckles, the barbarian call back made my heart sing.
My husband, who introduced me to CR at the beginning of both C2 and our relationship-he just hasn’t been able to get into this season, and I get why, but it’s such a bummer. There are some incredible moments, and I’m so invested in each of their characters, but it’s a huge commitment to ask someone to take on “It’s not a show, it’s a life style” is truly the best way to describe CR in my opinion 😂 I’m so excited to see where Ashton’s story goes, and what dunamantic+primal magic created him
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the tree they are looking for is in the Shattered Teeth, the same place that Avalir and the Tree of Names crashed. I think they are exactly the same tree.
"Finds out that Vax is alive and well..." I wouldn't EXACTLY say he's doing WELL right now 😂 but I fucking LOVE these videos you do on Critical Role, watch them everytime they come out and thank you for doing what you do!
Is it a coincidence that they're headed to the Shattered Teeth, a broken and "moving" group of islands that has this Tree from the calamity period. Perhaps this is where the moon of Ruidus came from? The islands are all that's left of it being scooped up and taken away from Exandria.
I genuinely think that Ashton is the son of the Hishari leader who was sacrificed/bound with the primordial titan and thats how he became an Earth Genasi
I want to see the Empress of Earth that was banished in Calamity turn out to be his mom somehow or maybe they were trying to bring her back and put her into Ashton and that's how he ended up genasi. Betting money on my crack theories. Also have a theory that Ludinus is actually Loris of the Weaver's Mask because we never do find out what happened to him after Loquacious puts him in the wall of force 😂
Either this, or he’s truly no one’s son and was the creation that destroyed them. I wonder if they were all sort of sucked into him and that’s what’s turned him into a little mini beacon
A couple of observations. One, I've noticed a pattern during the campaign: More and more, what's going on seems to be heavily based on the Greek mythos in some respects. After looking at the CR Wiki, I really think that Predathos is CR's version of Chronos, who Zeus and his brothers fought. Second, is it me, or do we have characters in this campaign that seem to be based on Marvel characters!? Here is my list, see what you think: 1) Ashton: The Thing from Fantastic Four 2) Imogen: Combination of Sue Storm from Fantastic Four and Jean Grey from X-Men 3) Orym: Captain America 4) Chetney: Wolverine, X-Men 5) Laudna: Combination of Deadpool and Rogue (X-Men) 6) FCG: Vision 7) Fearne: Loki, God of Mischief
I would say that the party has some qualities of the heroes u mentioned, and its very possible they took some inspiration. They are thier own thing since to each of those heroes u could name a bunch of qualities that the marvel heroes dont have. And to the other part that it reminds u of greek mythology (but the fact that chronos and other titans were parents of the greek gods does not fit the C3 story a bit), i would also sprinkle in a bit of norse mythology. Where the gods and their mortal champions are trying to stop Ragnarok, the day when all gods were to perish. Also Predathos reminds me a bit of Fenris, The wolf that would consume the gods.
@@miafiolekova5817 : I can see the Norse connection. But I mentioned Greek mythology, because one, Matt has used Latin names, which are Roman, and Rome took its mythos from Greece; and two, in the Greek mythos, Chronos actually did devour two gods, two of Zeus' brothers. It took the Titans and Zeus, Hades, and Poseidon to subdue him.
@@isaiahwelch8066if i remember correctly my greek mythology (and please correct me if i am wrong) Chronos was the most powerfull of the titans and he knew his children (the gods) would be more powerfull then him and thats why he ate them. I kind of dont remember why the other titans turned on him with the gods tho. Also in C3 Predathos has no blood conection to the gods of exandria. He was described as an apex predator that hunts them right? In any case Matt is great for making a great story.
I dunno if Predathos is a direct analog to Chronos given the twisted life and horrific transformations it seems to inflict on others. Seems closer to something Lovecraftian.
I would think she would also try to get other allies. Besides, she still needs to find and get to them. Sending not working makes this pretty difficult.
@de3722 I feel like it's really not. 3 of VM are at Whitestone that we know of and Grog can't be that far behind pike tbh. It wouldn't make sense for friends that close to not at least know where each other lived. Tbh I didn't think of her getting non VM allies that makes a bit more sense.
Well, that's assuming that none of them have been teleported away for example. And Scanlan could be wherever. But yeah, most time will probably be spent getting to and convincing other allies. Keyleth sounded like she was planning to gather an army, not just her friends.
@@de3722 Yep. That being said, there's no way I see Vex hanging back for this. Percy is a maybe given his advanced age (he's pushing 60 at this point and all that stress has likely taken its toll), but there is no way Vex is going to just ignore the fact that her brother is apparently being tortured by Ludinus Da'leth. Pike will definitely go for sure as well, and Grog will want to rescue the half-elf he sees as a brother.
IDK why but I had this idea that Keyleth would in some way enhance seedling when they came back together and that throughout the rest of the campaign it would continue to "grow" pun intended and we'd see it as the life cycle of a plant and a representation of the four seasons ending in wither (in my head it was seedling, sprout, bloom, and wither)
Actually, the tree is what remains of the Tree of Names. Because it contains knowledge, the druid that infused himself did so to preserve it. Otherwise it would have died out after the Calamity and the fall of Avalir.
The Luxon beacon is itself a fragment of a primordial being of light that scattered itself across exandria. How would a shard of a primordial fuse to the shard of another primordial lmao
@@silversalmon9909 The Calamity was a rather wild event in Exandria's history, where magic and gods and fiends and celestials and dragons and primordials clashed. Given the events of ExU Calamity, it is VERY possible that Ashton may have somehow been "birthed" or had their life affected from the cataclysmic destruction of Avalir.
I'm pretty sure Ashtons time/space based abilities have nothing to do with his elemental blood and he could only use them after his head exploded and Milo filled it with the dunamancy potion they stole. That's why Keyleth said his two sources of power didn't get along, or something along those lines.
WAIT, so am I the only one that thinks Laura's "lightning" marks are growing and are eating away at her flesh/or "chaining" her in some way AND in return her red summon is gaining more material form? In short IT wants to swap places with Imogen ? no?
My problem with Keyleth hating on the Matron - Vax was dead & I don't think he was coming back from this one. She offered him to go to peace but HE chose to go back, & end Vecna. I think the Matron did everything she could for him - but he ALWAYS was reckless - I think he got a little Over confident - they all did and kind of figured oh - they are powerful & bring me back. But - he was the HERO and ran blindly into danger without a thought. I think his thread was cut on the path he was on. She went against her "when your life is over, ITS OVER and she gave him time not just to take out Vecna but also to be with his family, lighten the bloe and to prepare himself and then... For his death. I think the RQ cared for him like "son" not romanticly in any way - he had been talking to someone about it & he said, "she feels like family, like a sister. WOW the RQ felt like family. She , and the RQ clergy, seemed to really care for him, Not like oh I worship you, but like family, I mrsn they went into mourning for him... The cleric really was hurting. I also think over the years.... Vax & Kiki started seeing each other again on the DL. Well not from the RQ but from everyone else. I mean - I've been thinking Vax had magic but I don't think he could aparate - he was there doing his Uber Rogue thing. I also think he was in Zephra, PURVING on with Kiki. I think hanging around Vax for 30 or so years - gave her back some humanity & empathy. She didn't want a miserable Champion, so I think Our Lady gave the OK. OR at least didn't say no or prevent him to have his love. Because she's learned empathy - think she's going to sacrifice her life for him and Exandria. When we first heard of her she seemed cold caring but cold & maybe she needed someone like Vax to see not only do you not need to be cold ,but caring in the last moments of someone's Life especially if they are afraid of in great pain. It would be wonderful to have a mother escort you to your next life. (All head cannon but I think alot of it is true). So she will sacrifice her life and I think some how - maybe she does a seeding ritual for Vax ,- Maybe her time is up and needs to leave it in his hands. I think she is one of the Gods who shows up - in her weird way. I think shes extremely benevolent - as she took this "job" to rid the world of something evil... Anyway that's how I see it. Keyleth needs someone to blame - but it was Vecna not OLR who killed him. Just my humble opinion....
I would agree, tbh some actions and character flaws of Keyleth kind of annoyed me. Blaming the Matron for Vax is one. Maybe she was angry at the Matron because she was the one who claimed Vax at the end (when he left with her after the battle of Vassleheim) and in her eyes and thats why she dislikes her. (I would compare it to for example friends are all pranking you, but u snap at 1 friends prank and get angry at him even tho others did the same or even worse. At least thats how i think Kiki sees it.) In the end its human nature (even tho she is half-elf :D) to find someone to blame to eas our own sorrow. So i may not like how she thinks about the Matron, i understand it. And in the end, it makes Keyleth more real as a person, flaws and all. And not just some super powerfull flawless leader. But as a person in a position of power that has to deal with her own sorrows and problems any way she can.
@@miafiolekova5817Deanna came back after decades, even if Vax died at the end of c1 Keyleth would feel like it would be easier to get him back from the dead than getting him back from the Matron.
Very simple matron played with his emotions. One could make the argument it was suppose to happen that way TO force his hand. I imagine Keyleth feels similar to this. Working with God's she's knows how low they probably sink to get what they want. I bet she's just pissed some cunt took her man.
@@AdrasAdraki she could not bring him back, his body was turned to ash by Vecna. And u cant ressurect anyone without a body. The body Vax used after he died was given to him by the Matron and her devine magic. And Keyleth should be glad she got him back for a few more days in person thanks to the Matron.
I don't think she HATES the Matron, per se; Keyleth has expressed that she realizes how important the Prime Deities are to the world... But she's certainly bitter, and not without reason. She loved Vax dearly, and she could truly be herself around him. And now he's stuck acting as the Matron's grim reaper, policing those that would abuse the boundaries between life and death. And she hates that she can't do anything about it. So she vents that anger towards the Matron.
I preferred the 2 previous campaigns. They felt much more choose your own adventure. This entire campaign has seemed like the characters are on a predetermined path so they can tie up all this lore before they switch over to Dagger heart for their next campaign.
Hmm i would say u are right in the fact that they are headed in a certain path, BUT from the way the party is they dont seem to be 100% decided how they gonna deal with it (to save the gods, or let them die). And from the way they ended at the fist battle of the maleus key there seems to be a chance they are gonna lose. Also the other campaigns had fixed paths, VM was always gonna fight the Chroma Conclave since the time they killed Brimscythe. They were gonna face Vecna since the moment Briarwoods showed up. M9 were gonna fight the Somnovem right from the start since Matt said that he decided right from the start that the 9 eyes on Molly are gonna be the big bad. It may have seemed more loose in those campaigns because the high stakes were not clear so early in C3 they were already faced with end of world shit from around episode 30 where as in the other 2 campaigns the big bad was clear way later.
I don't think they're going to switch over to Daggerheart, but I do them running another show using it. The fact is, the vast majority of CR fans and TTRPG fans don't want to learn another system.
Alright, put your tinfoil hats on: In campaign 1 we find out about the divine gate. In calamity we find out that the tree of names was creating a proto divine gate around Exandria. Campaign 3 we find a similar thing around Ruidus. So my hot take: These divine gate structures are something that the gods and Predathos (whatever it is) cannot cross. However, that is not their main purpose. The main purpose is to protect the gods from what is within the divine gate structures. The timeline: Gods and primordials create the gate structure around Ruidus to contain Predathos after 2 gods were eaten. The tree of names was stitching a new gate around Exandria during the calamity while other cities were looking into means of killing gods. To top is off one mortal was able to ascend to godhood, Personally I think this is why the schism between prime and betrayer gods occurred. When the fighting was over, the saw mortals as a new threat and contained them with the divine gate. The one unifying motivating factor, was recently confirmed by the change bringer, The gods fear death. Predathos eats 2 gods = Gods and primordials banish and contain him on a rock sent into space. Human kills a god and becomes one = Gods contain mortals with the divine gate, yes mortals can pass through, but they cannot kill a god. Predathos is going to be unleashed? = All the gods are working together to an extent. At least a truce.
Bro, if you REALLY don't like that Laudna and Imogen are dating - just don't watch Campaign 3. There's two other campaigns, Candula Obscuras, and plenty of other one shots for you to enjoy. You don't have to watch something if you really hate it lmao
@@cthulhucollector then he skip it lmao, I hate it when people get pressed when they can just click off and avoid the problems they make themselves. Nobody is forcing him to catch up weekly to critical role, but he still complains like he doesn't have a choice
Ok? I guess you're entitled to your opinion. "Unnecessary" is a crazy claim though - you don't like it, it is not objectively unnecessary. Imogen and Laudna decided they loved one another despite the f'ed up circumstances. It's their game, girl, let them play it.
It's your opinion dog, but seeming as it's just a game ofc things like that will barely be necessary. Fjord and Jester weren't necessary, Keyleth and Vax weren't necessary, etc. They happened coz the players wanna have fun
What do YOU think is going on with Ashton??
My suspicion is, Ashton is basically the demi-god version of the Earth Primordial.
The reason why I say this is because he passively absorbed the chaotic nature of the failed ritual that he was present for as a child. And when he was killed, early on in the campaign (per Ashton's own recounting of what happened), and he basically had a dodecahedron inserted into his head, the dodecahedron awakened the primordial side of him, that primordial spark.
Basically, imagine The Thing from Fantastic Four, and the accident in space that created him, and you get Ashton in Critical Role. Plus, Taliesin is a self-admitted comic book nerd, so it wouldn't surprise me to learn that The Thing is what inspired Ashton's character creation, with a bit of chaos thrown in.
That being said, we may get a second visit to Terra at some point, where Keyleth visited on her Aramente during C1. To my knowledge, it is the entry point the Elemental Plane of Earth, so Ashton may go there at some point to find out more about the Hishari and what exactly the ritual was, and what the Hishari was trying to accomplish with that ritual.
@isaiahwelch8066 He did not get a dodecahedron inserted. When Milo tried to save Ashtons life, he saw the bottle of extracted possibilty that Ashton picked up at the Hexon manor and held onto when he got attacked and thrown out the balcony. Milo took that bottle and in desperation he poured it into Ashtons broken skull.
@@Dragonited I don't think he meant an actual Dodecahedron, just the Hedron juice he was fed as he lay dying kind of merged with his titan blood to make him what he is. Essentially saying a dodecahedron in his head via the essence of it
@@JuiceMandem Yes the potion of possibilities is extracted from a dodecahedron but inserting an item vs pouring a liquid on a wound patched up with crystal and gold is a bit different.
@@isaiahwelch8066 chances of him becoming all powerful? I mean like Silver Surfer style. His story thus far has a lot of Mary Sue/John Doe elements going so with the primordial juice in him. I have a feeling he'll become a big player in the "Endgame" of this journey.
I want to just see a cut seen we're jester is just flipping out about not being able to use sending
Same. Thank goodness for the MN one shot coming this fall 🙌
I'm sure Essek appreciates the break! 😅
@@deviousdelibird and the plank king
@@garrettk67that is what I want to see... or his reaction when the sending comes back
Lol when it comes back she’s gonna waste every spell slot for weeks to catch up
I really really really want Bells Hells to find that recording that Loquatious left behind. And of course Bigadyberg.
I know it was only a light connection but I really appreciated Keyleth linking Ashton with Grog through the titanstone knuckles, the barbarian call back made my heart sing.
My husband, who introduced me to CR at the beginning of both C2 and our relationship-he just hasn’t been able to get into this season, and I get why, but it’s such a bummer. There are some incredible moments, and I’m so invested in each of their characters, but it’s a huge commitment to ask someone to take on
“It’s not a show, it’s a life style” is truly the best way to describe CR in my opinion 😂
I’m so excited to see where Ashton’s story goes, and what dunamantic+primal magic created him
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the tree they are looking for is in the Shattered Teeth, the same place that Avalir and the Tree of Names crashed. I think they are exactly the same tree.
I agree with you.
I just realized Matt could be setting up the god weapon from calamity as a way to actually save the gods by killing Predathos 😮
"Finds out that Vax is alive and well..."
I wouldn't EXACTLY say he's doing WELL right now 😂 but I fucking LOVE these videos you do on Critical Role, watch them everytime they come out and thank you for doing what you do!
Is it a coincidence that they're headed to the Shattered Teeth, a broken and "moving" group of islands that has this Tree from the calamity period. Perhaps this is where the moon of Ruidus came from? The islands are all that's left of it being scooped up and taken away from Exandria.
It was confirmed in exu calamity that the shattered teeth came from the destruction of Avalir(sp), which was long after the creation of ruidus
Radius was created way before the calamity which is what caused the shattered teeth..radius was created by the gods before most of recorded history
I genuinely think that Ashton is the son of the Hishari leader who was sacrificed/bound with the primordial titan and thats how he became an Earth Genasi
I want to see the Empress of Earth that was banished in Calamity turn out to be his mom somehow or maybe they were trying to bring her back and put her into Ashton and that's how he ended up genasi. Betting money on my crack theories. Also have a theory that Ludinus is actually Loris of the Weaver's Mask because we never do find out what happened to him after Loquacious puts him in the wall of force 😂
Either this, or he’s truly no one’s son and was the creation that destroyed them. I wonder if they were all sort of sucked into him and that’s what’s turned him into a little mini beacon
@@leahannbatley5120 Doubt that Ludinus is Loris. The explosion from Avalir's destruction probably killed him.
I am visiting Campaign 1 there are similar themes back then.
A couple of observations.
One, I've noticed a pattern during the campaign: More and more, what's going on seems to be heavily based on the Greek mythos in some respects. After looking at the CR Wiki, I really think that Predathos is CR's version of Chronos, who Zeus and his brothers fought.
Second, is it me, or do we have characters in this campaign that seem to be based on Marvel characters!? Here is my list, see what you think:
1) Ashton: The Thing from Fantastic Four
2) Imogen: Combination of Sue Storm from Fantastic Four and Jean Grey from X-Men
3) Orym: Captain America
4) Chetney: Wolverine, X-Men
5) Laudna: Combination of Deadpool and Rogue (X-Men)
6) FCG: Vision
7) Fearne: Loki, God of Mischief
I would say that the party has some qualities of the heroes u mentioned, and its very possible they took some inspiration. They are thier own thing since to each of those heroes u could name a bunch of qualities that the marvel heroes dont have.
And to the other part that it reminds u of greek mythology (but the fact that chronos and other titans were parents of the greek gods does not fit the C3 story a bit), i would also sprinkle in a bit of norse mythology. Where the gods and their mortal champions are trying to stop Ragnarok, the day when all gods were to perish. Also Predathos reminds me a bit of Fenris, The wolf that would consume the gods.
@@miafiolekova5817 : I can see the Norse connection. But I mentioned Greek mythology, because one, Matt has used Latin names, which are Roman, and Rome took its mythos from Greece; and two, in the Greek mythos, Chronos actually did devour two gods, two of Zeus' brothers. It took the Titans and Zeus, Hades, and Poseidon to subdue him.
@@isaiahwelch8066if i remember correctly my greek mythology (and please correct me if i am wrong) Chronos was the most powerfull of the titans and he knew his children (the gods) would be more powerfull then him and thats why he ate them. I kind of dont remember why the other titans turned on him with the gods tho.
Also in C3 Predathos has no blood conection to the gods of exandria. He was described as an apex predator that hunts them right?
In any case Matt is great for making a great story.
I dunno if Predathos is a direct analog to Chronos given the twisted life and horrific transformations it seems to inflict on others. Seems closer to something Lovecraftian.
You cannot tell me that everything related to Aeor and and the Aeormations are not related to Bolo. I simple will not accept another explanation.
I feel like Keyleth is going to take a while to get help, but in all reality it'd be as simple as saying to Vm hey Vax is alive help
I would think she would also try to get other allies. Besides, she still needs to find and get to them. Sending not working makes this pretty difficult.
@de3722 I feel like it's really not. 3 of VM are at Whitestone that we know of and Grog can't be that far behind pike tbh. It wouldn't make sense for friends that close to not at least know where each other lived.
Tbh I didn't think of her getting non VM allies that makes a bit more sense.
Well, that's assuming that none of them have been teleported away for example. And Scanlan could be wherever. But yeah, most time will probably be spent getting to and convincing other allies. Keyleth sounded like she was planning to gather an army, not just her friends.
@@de3722 Yep.
That being said, there's no way I see Vex hanging back for this. Percy is a maybe given his advanced age (he's pushing 60 at this point and all that stress has likely taken its toll), but there is no way Vex is going to just ignore the fact that her brother is apparently being tortured by Ludinus Da'leth. Pike will definitely go for sure as well, and Grog will want to rescue the half-elf he sees as a brother.
I think is going to be vm with as much of a army that Percy can arm along with m9
ruidus campaign setting when
IDK why but I had this idea that Keyleth would in some way enhance seedling when they came back together and that throughout the rest of the campaign it would continue to "grow" pun intended and we'd see it as the life cycle of a plant and a representation of the four seasons ending in wither (in my head it was seedling, sprout, bloom, and wither)
VM went for a short period, if I'm correct. For Percy?
No mention of the sword at all? Did you just forgott that part or will you talk about it in another video?
Is it just me or did that tree name sound like Evandrin?
I think ExU Calamity copium covered my view because I thought it sounded like Avalir.
Actually, the tree is what remains of the Tree of Names. Because it contains knowledge, the druid that infused himself did so to preserve it. Otherwise it would have died out after the Calamity and the fall of Avalir.
I thought the leading theory was that Predathos just created them himself somehow. Maybe to mimick Exandria or something
Would love to see BLM playing the Lord of hells again. Calamity episode 4 was chilling "I was right"
I think Ashton was fused with a Luxon beacon that contained a shard of a Primordial.
The Luxon beacon is itself a fragment of a primordial being of light that scattered itself across exandria. How would a shard of a primordial fuse to the shard of another primordial lmao
@@silversalmon9909Well, when one shard of a primordial loves another shard of a primordial very much...
@@silversalmon9909 The Calamity was a rather wild event in Exandria's history, where magic and gods and fiends and celestials and dragons and primordials clashed. Given the events of ExU Calamity, it is VERY possible that Ashton may have somehow been "birthed" or had their life affected from the cataclysmic destruction of Avalir.
I'm pretty sure Ashtons time/space based abilities have nothing to do with his elemental blood and he could only use them after his head exploded and Milo filled it with the dunamancy potion they stole. That's why Keyleth said his two sources of power didn't get along, or something along those lines.
WAIT, so am I the only one that thinks Laura's "lightning" marks are growing and are eating away at her flesh/or "chaining" her in some way AND in return her red summon is gaining more material form? In short IT wants to swap places with Imogen ? no?
Vax being ‘alive’ and ‘well’ isn’t quite how I would put that 🧐🤨
My problem with Keyleth hating on the Matron - Vax was dead & I don't think he was coming back from this one. She offered him to go to peace but HE chose to go back, & end Vecna. I think the Matron did everything she could for him - but he ALWAYS was reckless - I think he got a little
Over confident - they all did and kind of figured oh - they are powerful & bring me back. But - he was the HERO and ran blindly into danger without a thought. I think his thread was cut on the path he was on.
She went against her "when your life is over, ITS OVER and she gave him time not just to take out Vecna but also to be with his family, lighten the bloe and to prepare himself and then... For his death.
I think the RQ cared for him like "son" not romanticly in any way - he had been talking to someone about it & he said, "she feels like family, like a sister. WOW the RQ felt like family.
She , and the RQ clergy, seemed to really care for him, Not like oh I worship you, but like family, I mrsn they went into mourning for him... The cleric really was hurting.
I also think over the years.... Vax & Kiki started seeing each other again on the DL. Well not from the RQ but from everyone else. I mean - I've been thinking Vax had magic but I don't think he could aparate - he was there doing his Uber Rogue thing.
I also think he was in Zephra, PURVING on with Kiki.
I think hanging around Vax for 30 or so years - gave her back some humanity & empathy. She didn't want a miserable Champion, so I think Our Lady gave the OK. OR at least didn't say no or prevent him to have his love.
Because she's learned empathy - think she's going to sacrifice her life for him and Exandria. When we first heard of her she seemed cold caring but cold & maybe she needed someone like Vax to see not only do you not need to be cold ,but caring in the last moments of someone's Life especially if they are afraid of in great pain. It would be wonderful to have a mother escort you to your next life. (All head cannon but I think alot of it is true). So she will sacrifice her life and I think some how - maybe she does a seeding ritual for Vax ,- Maybe her time is up and needs to leave it in his hands.
I think she is one of the Gods who shows up - in her weird way. I think shes extremely benevolent - as she took this "job" to rid the world of something evil... Anyway that's how I see it.
Keyleth needs someone to blame - but it was Vecna not OLR who killed him.
Just my humble opinion....
I would agree, tbh some actions and character flaws of Keyleth kind of annoyed me. Blaming the Matron for Vax is one. Maybe she was angry at the Matron because she was the one who claimed Vax at the end (when he left with her after the battle of Vassleheim) and in her eyes and thats why she dislikes her. (I would compare it to for example friends are all pranking you, but u snap at 1 friends prank and get angry at him even tho others did the same or even worse. At least thats how i think Kiki sees it.) In the end its human nature (even tho she is half-elf :D) to find someone to blame to eas our own sorrow. So i may not like how she thinks about the Matron, i understand it. And in the end, it makes Keyleth more real as a person, flaws and all. And not just some super powerfull flawless leader. But as a person in a position of power that has to deal with her own sorrows and problems any way she can.
@@miafiolekova5817Deanna came back after decades, even if Vax died at the end of c1 Keyleth would feel like it would be easier to get him back from the dead than getting him back from the Matron.
Very simple matron played with his emotions. One could make the argument it was suppose to happen that way TO force his hand. I imagine Keyleth feels similar to this. Working with God's she's knows how low they probably sink to get what they want. I bet she's just pissed some cunt took her man.
@@AdrasAdraki she could not bring him back, his body was turned to ash by Vecna. And u cant ressurect anyone without a body. The body Vax used after he died was given to him by the Matron and her devine magic. And Keyleth should be glad she got him back for a few more days in person thanks to the Matron.
I don't think she HATES the Matron, per se; Keyleth has expressed that she realizes how important the Prime Deities are to the world... But she's certainly bitter, and not without reason. She loved Vax dearly, and she could truly be herself around him. And now he's stuck acting as the Matron's grim reaper, policing those that would abuse the boundaries between life and death. And she hates that she can't do anything about it. So she vents that anger towards the Matron.
Yeah Matt ripped this idea from 13th Age. Race to Starport. written 2015. He's not the " Lore Master" everyone thinks he is.
WHAT NTHE HELL DO YOU MEAN TITAN BLOOD
i was hoping Matt would've said Sardior was trapped in his red moon, but then WoTC dropped the ball on everyone, so that might not be a thing anymore
I preferred the 2 previous campaigns. They felt much more choose your own adventure. This entire campaign has seemed like the characters are on a predetermined path so they can tie up all this lore before they switch over to Dagger heart for their next campaign.
Hmm i would say u are right in the fact that they are headed in a certain path, BUT from the way the party is they dont seem to be 100% decided how they gonna deal with it (to save the gods, or let them die). And from the way they ended at the fist battle of the maleus key there seems to be a chance they are gonna lose.
Also the other campaigns had fixed paths, VM was always gonna fight the Chroma Conclave since the time they killed Brimscythe. They were gonna face Vecna since the moment Briarwoods showed up. M9 were gonna fight the Somnovem right from the start since Matt said that he decided right from the start that the 9 eyes on Molly are gonna be the big bad. It may have seemed more loose in those campaigns because the high stakes were not clear so early in C3 they were already faced with end of world shit from around episode 30 where as in the other 2 campaigns the big bad was clear way later.
I don't think they're going to switch over to Daggerheart, but I do them running another show using it. The fact is, the vast majority of CR fans and TTRPG fans don't want to learn another system.
Too many guests stars and sessions where players just goof around. That is the reason i have not really cared about C3.
@@mursuka80How long have you been watching CR???
Alright, put your tinfoil hats on: In campaign 1 we find out about the divine gate. In calamity we find out that the tree of names was creating a proto divine gate around Exandria. Campaign 3 we find a similar thing around Ruidus. So my hot take: These divine gate structures are something that the gods and Predathos (whatever it is) cannot cross. However, that is not their main purpose. The main purpose is to protect the gods from what is within the divine gate structures.
The timeline: Gods and primordials create the gate structure around Ruidus to contain Predathos after 2 gods were eaten. The tree of names was stitching a new gate around Exandria during the calamity while other cities were looking into means of killing gods. To top is off one mortal was able to ascend to godhood, Personally I think this is why the schism between prime and betrayer gods occurred. When the fighting was over, the saw mortals as a new threat and contained them with the divine gate. The one unifying motivating factor, was recently confirmed by the change bringer, The gods fear death.
Predathos eats 2 gods = Gods and primordials banish and contain him on a rock sent into space. Human kills a god and becomes one = Gods contain mortals with the divine gate, yes mortals can pass through, but they cannot kill a god. Predathos is going to be unleashed? = All the gods are working together to an extent. At least a truce.
CRS3 went too LQBTQIA2S+ with the rest of Hollywood
Lesbian necrophilia is what the people want, apparently.
Bro, if you REALLY don't like that Laudna and Imogen are dating - just don't watch Campaign 3. There's two other campaigns, Candula Obscuras, and plenty of other one shots for you to enjoy. You don't have to watch something if you really hate it lmao
@@JustSucks He's probably gonna have issues with CR2 then too.
@@cthulhucollector then he skip it lmao, I hate it when people get pressed when they can just click off and avoid the problems they make themselves. Nobody is forcing him to catch up weekly to critical role, but he still complains like he doesn't have a choice
@@JustSucks I don't see why people care who hooks up with who in an RPG or movie ect. It ain't like it has a real effect on the consumer of the media.
It's probably the weakest campaign so far, and that necrophilia romance is just unnecessary
Ok? I guess you're entitled to your opinion. "Unnecessary" is a crazy claim though - you don't like it, it is not objectively unnecessary. Imogen and Laudna decided they loved one another despite the f'ed up circumstances. It's their game, girl, let them play it.
It's your opinion dog, but seeming as it's just a game ofc things like that will barely be necessary. Fjord and Jester weren't necessary, Keyleth and Vax weren't necessary, etc. They happened coz the players wanna have fun
…and yet you’re still watching it? Your argument’s non-existent dude, there was literally a three way between a werewolf, a cleric, and a Druid.
@@JustSuckspsst, dont tell the guy u can fuk a bear in BG3 or he will try to cancel that too
Sounds like somebody doesn't know the lore about Hollow Ones.