I ended up going all in with these Comp Carry models. I bought the full size and the Shield version. Then I put on the same green dot Holosun style sights on it. The plan is to use the shield for carry and the full size for home defense. Then I can become more comfortable with the same style pistols.
I have the 4" Performance Center with the Ported Barrel Shield. I love it. It's my everyday carry on most days. I also have the 3.1" PC that I carry from time to time. I might get this one too for the heck of it. I love S&W guns. They just work for me.
Same, I've tried quite a few different brands at this point and they all have their pros and cons but I keep cooking back to S&W. Helps that through many thousands of rounds with a couple dozen handguns, I've only ever had two failures across four different Smiths. Two. In several thousand rounds. I've had at least three or four issues on EACH of all the other guns I've shot.
have thousands through my 3.1 shield plus. recently bought the 4 inch ported pc model and thats veen flawless as well and ive been carrying that now. Looks like ill be getting this one as well for the hell of it.
I bought this gun, and it is awesome and I a lefty. By the way, it does have that lever to disengage the striker to not have to pull the trigger. Another thing that Smith did was to change the angle of that witness chamber indicator hole, so that the gasses don't smoke up the attached optic, if you put one on. Look inside where the hole is on the face of the slide you will see a small angle cut to redirect the gasses forward.
Excellent content. The format of these reviews is the most helpful compared with the other leading reviewers. I now only consider buying a new addition after thoroughly digesting a sootch00 video. As he says, this truly is the golden era for choice and ownership.
Great review as always Don ! Would love to see a comparison between this and the P365 xMacro comp and to hear your thoughts on which one shoots better.
Has to be one of the best straight-talk and factual reviews on any gun I have seen online. My S&W Performance Center Shield Plus Comp Carry is due in this week.
I have the shield 1.0, put a competition trigger in it, replace the sear the spring the front and rear sights with tritium and dayglow and added 10 round magazines. It's by far the best shooting pistol I have I wouldn't get rid of it for anything.
Hi Don, Once again S and W has come to us again. The beauty of firearms to the market. I thought I was wowed with the Shield Plus PC 4 “ model but now I am wowed by this series. Again your video on this is just another example of why we watch sootch00. Well done God bless
@@thebiglebowski8591 Let’s see, do you have any LE or Mil experience? Do you shoot competition? I have 28yrs LE, firearms instructor, master class Idpa ssp (iron sights), and I’ve changed tactics & training when better ideas come along. Dot sights on pistols to me are better than irons. Maybe you should go backwards and just shoot a single action revolver?
@@jeffanon1772Hickok 45 videos are done in one shot, no cuts, no music, no intro, no movie effects, no ballistic gel. People like him for certain charisma. Sometimes I don't understand his Neshville English. Its nice to have different gun reviewers.
I think this size carry gun with the 15 round magazine is the perfect size. More people are going to the XL comp models because they are still easily concealed but shoot much better with larger capacity.
Seriously has me considering trading in my standard shield plus, I have a remsport ported barrel on my 4" performance center already and love it but those slide cuts ❤
Cant wait until September 1st to pick mine up! The shield plus is my favorite micro 9 and the one im most accurate with. Hope that this one meets my expectations
I love my M&Ps have a couple versions. But i bought the 365 XMACRO with the comp cut a don't see where gasses are blowing back as bad as everyone is saying. I've had a little on the front sight but can still see it fine. But, none at all on my red dot. Shooting 124gr Critical defense.
@@JimD410that og trigger is what killed the csx. They forgot that the only reason most people even consider sao hammer fire guns for ccw is the better trigger. When the csx came out there was really no reason to get it over a p365
The regular shield plus also can use that 15 round magazine. And it's available for it ever since it's came out. I know I own one, and it's not even a performance center. But it has performance center sites I had put on it shoots fantastic
I had the original shield and did not like it. It was very ammo specific and mine hated CCI 9mm? So I sold it and got a Taurus G3 and love it. I'm a S&W fan and my father was a Master Fitter for S&W and was one of the people that worked to starting the Performance Center Dept. for the company. Your video here is very detailed and well done. Due to this awesome presentation I will buy the new and improved PC Shield. Thanks Sootch for doing a very polished informative review. PS: The new handgun is a secret and pls do not tell my better half LOL.
I experienced the opposite, my shield plus is one of only two handguns I've ever owned/tried that eats absolutely everything I put in it. The other was an M&P 2.0 😅
@@SliderFury1 That's awesome. If my original shield did that I would have kept it. My shield was sent back to S&W and they polished the feed ramp and I changed to new mags and still had issues. I just got a lemon.
Did you feel like the extended barrel/slide made the gun feel off balance at all? Saw someone say that they felt it made it feel top/front heavy compared to the original shield plus
I just got one of these and just as a heads up mine didn't have an RMSc footprint for the optic cut. Not 100% what it is but it looks like it might be the RMSk (no rear lugs, short front lugs) but the front lugs are cut kind of funny. Everyone online seems adamant that the shield has an RMSc cut so either someone had some fun with mine or Smith changed their cut recently.
The shield thumb safety was not well executed. hard to engage and disregard so I kept mine in the off position. if someone offered a replacement that extended further out in width and was longer that could fix the issue.
@@freakfly23??? For safety! Many of us learned in the military. If carry appendix...and you like your nuts ...it's no different than anything...train that way. Why do folks keep asking this question. Pull, finger off trigger, take off safety...duhhh.
Lol same, I compared this to my MC9 yesterday at the shop and I'm crying a tad bit on the inside. Only advantage I see to the Canik atm is that it's has a RMSc/k slide cut so I could mount the EPS Carry directly to the slide.
Is it worth the "update" if you've already got a Shield Plus? I got Optics Ready Shield Plus in November 2023 as my EDC and love it, but wondering how much more shootable the carry comp is. One thing I dislike is the blacked out rear sight. I prefer the 3 dot night sights mine has.
Some folks have said these are over sprung. Has anyone put in a different recoil spring? I have the compact carry comp and switched to a 13lb spring. Definitely an improvement. Wondering about the spring on this model (Shield plus carry comp)
I wonder if I can use my existing 9mm and 30sc Shield Plus barrels in the Shield Plus Carry comp slide? It seems like if you’re using the normal Plus barrels, it would copy what the Sig Xmacro does with their comped slide, and what the PSA Micro Dagger comped C-1 slide does, which is use the shorter barrel that doesn’t extend into the comped portion of the slide.
@@sootch00 hopefully it will go nicely with the ported 10mm performance center which has a thumb safety. My wife purchased one and is very happy with it . Actually just edited after checking, it was your review of that firearm that swung her to picking it up, THANK YOU
Thumb safeties on the shields are horrible to use. They make them too small and hard to use. I'd go with a different model if you really want a thumb safety. If they used the same style of safety selector like they did on the EZ pistols, I think that would be much better.
Is it me Unk or was the Smith & Wesson 4-in performance shield that you reviewed two years ago lighter recoil and the same exact pistol is this except for the slide?!🤔 The recall even seems less from the version you had two years ago.
I’m trying to make a decision on this gun or the shield plus but I’ve seen a lot of videos where people say the carry comp has more recoil and is more snappy than the regular shield plus. I can’t see how this is possible. You have both and shot both you say the carry comp is not snappier correct?
It’s the additional mass out front. From what I gather on a 13 or 15 round mag it equalizes the weight but the 10rnd puts it a little front heavy making that mass flip on recoil more noticeable. I’m in the same boat of deciding between the two.
Smith really needs to go back to coating the frames the I absolutely hate that matte look my shield plus is like that. The earlier shield plus had a cerakoted black frame and it looked so much better.
so what, if any, is the difference in the trigger between the carry comp PC shield and the standard shield plus? it looks exactly the same. is it PC tuning ? what does that involve and how does that translate to shooting experience ?
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S&W is coming out with some fantastic firearm options. Good for them.
I ended up going all in with these Comp Carry models. I bought the full size and the Shield version. Then I put on the same green dot Holosun style sights on it. The plan is to use the shield for carry and the full size for home defense. Then I can become more comfortable with the same style pistols.
👎👎👎 You put on the "greed" dot ; why not the reed dot ?
Great plan, sir! Always excellent idea to keep the carry and home defense pistols with the same type of controls.
@dareisnogod5711 Why not? Also what's a Reed dot?
I just got the carry comp yesterday. I use the M&P 10mm for home.
@@dareisnogod5711 green shows up better for most people, myself included.
I have the 4" Performance Center with the Ported Barrel Shield. I love it. It's my everyday carry on most days. I also have the 3.1" PC that I carry from time to time. I might get this one too for the heck of it. I love S&W guns. They just work for me.
Same, I've tried quite a few different brands at this point and they all have their pros and cons but I keep cooking back to S&W.
Helps that through many thousands of rounds with a couple dozen handguns, I've only ever had two failures across four different Smiths. Two. In several thousand rounds. I've had at least three or four issues on EACH of all the other guns I've shot.
have thousands through my 3.1 shield plus. recently bought the 4 inch ported pc model and thats veen flawless as well and ive been carrying that now. Looks like ill be getting this one as well for the hell of it.
Do you like carrying the 4-in barrel more over the 3.1 in. Does it make a big difference when concealed carry with the grip@@raynerussell7998
I'm torn between the ported or comped 4 inch shield plus! Has anyone shot both and can give some advice?
I bought it about a month back 350~rds no issues I love it. It looks great and shoots flat. Worth a buy.
Great review. I finally upgraded from Shield to Shield plus. That was a big improvement.
Mine has been flawless. Great review, thank you and respect.
I bought this gun, and it is awesome and I a lefty. By the way, it does have that lever to disengage the striker to not have to pull the trigger. Another thing that Smith did was to change the angle of that witness chamber indicator hole, so that the gasses don't smoke up the attached optic, if you put one on. Look inside where the hole is on the face of the slide you will see a small angle cut to redirect the gasses forward.
Excellent content. The format of these reviews is the most helpful compared with the other leading reviewers. I now only consider buying a new addition after thoroughly digesting a sootch00 video. As he says, this truly is the golden era for choice and ownership.
Thanks Andy! I appreciate your comment!
Great review as always Don !
Would love to see a comparison between this and the P365 xMacro comp and to hear your thoughts on which one shoots better.
Has to be one of the best straight-talk and factual reviews on any gun I have seen online. My S&W Performance Center Shield Plus Comp Carry is due in this week.
The original shield is still MY CC love it
I always like your reviews about guns I have a shield plus and I'm from Israel thank you for the fun you give us dear man
Outside the comp, I’m loving the new serrations and the night sights on it. I carry a base model plus rn and this would be a great upgrade
I have the P365X and the Shield plus. The Shield Plus is the most comfortable to carry for me. Great pistol
I have the shield 1.0, put a competition trigger in it, replace the sear the spring the front and rear sights with tritium and dayglow and added 10 round magazines. It's by far the best shooting pistol I have I wouldn't get rid of it for anything.
As one of the other comments stated, I too watch your reviews before making a fash to the local dealers.
Greatly appreciated 🎓💪🏼🇺🇸
Clean ejections, well done s&w! Now do a Shield in 10mm plz! 🙏
Very nice looking S&W, love their guns. Great review Sootch!!
Thanks, I work in Finishing dept :)
Nice looking finishes on the frame and slide.
Thanks, I work on the Finishing dept
Hi Don,
Once again S and W has come to us again. The beauty of firearms to the market. I thought I was wowed with the Shield Plus PC 4 “ model but now I am wowed by this series. Again your video on this is just another example of why we watch sootch00.
Well done
God bless
S&W created a sweet carry gun, add a good red dot, break it in, and good to go. 👍🏻
I like S&W revolvers, but they are too expensive nowadays.
@@joaopedrobaggio4475 I don't like caviar, doesn't matter how much.
Putting a red dot on a handgun is like putting training wheels on a bicycle. Just learn to use iron sights and you will be just fine
@@thebiglebowski8591 Shooting isn't riding a bike. If something makes you better use it, everyone's eyes are different.
@@thebiglebowski8591 Let’s see, do you have any LE or Mil experience? Do you shoot competition? I have 28yrs LE, firearms instructor, master class Idpa ssp (iron sights), and I’ve changed tactics & training when better ideas come along. Dot sights on pistols to me are better than irons. Maybe you should go backwards and just shoot a single action revolver?
I've been waiting for you to review this gun ... Thank you. ... My next gun.
Best gun reviews on YT ...👍👍
Thank you Jeff! 👍👍
@@sootch00 much better than Hickok45...👍👍
@@jeffanon1772Hickok 45 videos are done in one shot, no cuts, no music, no intro, no movie effects, no ballistic gel. People like him for certain charisma. Sometimes I don't understand his Neshville English. Its nice to have different gun reviewers.
*sootch00* Beautiful shooter you got there sootch, thank-you sir for taking the time to show us. GOD Bless brother. (( PS, love my new flashlight ))
Good Morning Kevin! Hope you're doing well! Thanks for stopping by.
God Bless you and yours my friend!
@@sootch00 You bet, all the best. Peace & Grace.
Good information, Sootch. Thank you.
Thank you Sootch. Long live The Republic. Now more than ever we need to take our country back. God bless you.
I think this size carry gun with the 15 round magazine is the perfect size. More people are going to the XL comp models because they are still easily concealed but shoot much better with larger capacity.
Had to like the video after i heard the last part 17:42
The shield plus does have the seer disconnect lever so you don’t have to pull the trigger when you disassemble the firearm.
Yeah I don’t know why he said that. It was clearly there.
It’s probably because he does so many reviews and knowing the kinds of bloopers he has to edit out. I give the man a pass.
Those slide serrations!!!! There's a pinky extension you can buy for the small grip for about $15 for 2, they work great.
Link?
Seriously has me considering trading in my standard shield plus, I have a remsport ported barrel on my 4" performance center already and love it but those slide cuts ❤
Cant wait until September 1st to pick mine up! The shield plus is my favorite micro 9 and the one im most accurate with. Hope that this one meets my expectations
How are you liking it?
Glad to have found your channel.
Smith got this one right . Big thanks for the video.
carry comp vs hellcat pro comp vs xmacro
$649 seems like a steal. Yup, this is my next carry. Thanks 👍
Great job as usual. I got mine for $600 and put a Holosun green multi reticule on it👍🏻 carry it or my 365 xl with the model Holosun
I was waiting for you to review this S&W thanks Don!
I hate the new serrations. The fish scale pattern has been classic and looks great.
I love my M&Ps have a couple versions. But i bought the 365 XMACRO with the comp cut a don't see where gasses are blowing back as bad as everyone is saying. I've had a little on the front sight but can still see it fine. But, none at all on my red dot. Shooting 124gr Critical defense.
Damn i miss the fish scales. Im sure the new ones are fine
Great video nice Smith and Wesson handgun thanks for sharing sootch00
What we want is a CSX 2.O Comp RDR!
With a bigger beaver tail and upgraded trigger too.
@@JimD410that og trigger is what killed the csx. They forgot that the only reason most people even consider sao hammer fire guns for ccw is the better trigger. When the csx came out there was really no reason to get it over a p365
@@andyrihn1 yep, and I have big hands and I get slide bit too. I still like the weapon it just could of been better.
bout time dude!!!! it has been out for over a month and no one is reviewing it whats up with that
Too busy reviewing the bodyguard 2.0, the most reviewed gun ever lol
Had to wait for his freebie to arrive and the sponsor check to clear first
Adding to my tool box.
That model has the takedown lever. All m&ps do. It’s that yellow bit by the sear. Be better.
Not a bad price at all. Good job smith.
great review ! thanks
The best slide serrations similarly grippy like Walther put on the PDP pistols.
Great video! ❤️
Is there a magwell that would fit, and is there a way to attach a weapon light?
I love my shield plus.
I went with the compact model because I also wanted the Bodyguard 2.0 😂
The regular shield plus also can use that 15 round magazine. And it's available for it ever since it's came out. I know I own one, and it's not even a performance center. But it has performance center sites I had put on it shoots fantastic
REGULAR shield plus ROCKS and is smaller!
Hopefully they get more discounts with these new ones out. I want a 3.1in pc version
The MOST BAD ASSERY that has came out in a LONG TIME
I had the original shield and did not like it. It was very ammo specific and mine hated CCI 9mm? So I sold it and got a Taurus G3 and love it. I'm a S&W fan and my father was a Master Fitter for S&W and was one of the people that worked to starting the Performance Center Dept. for the company. Your video here is very detailed and well done. Due to this awesome presentation I will buy the new and improved PC Shield. Thanks Sootch for doing a very polished informative review. PS: The new handgun is a secret and pls do not tell my better half LOL.
I experienced the opposite, my shield plus is one of only two handguns I've ever owned/tried that eats absolutely everything I put in it.
The other was an M&P 2.0 😅
@@SliderFury1 That's awesome. If my original shield did that I would have kept it. My shield was sent back to S&W and they polished the feed ramp and I changed to new mags and still had issues. I just got a lemon.
Man I love the Shield 🛡️ Plus model….
This looks so nice! I am excited to trade my original shield plus up for this comp model.
dont trade. keep your current one too
Did you feel like the extended barrel/slide made the gun feel off balance at all? Saw someone say that they felt it made it feel top/front heavy compared to the original shield plus
Looks nice, i plan on trading in my old M&P for something like this.👍
I just got one of these and just as a heads up mine didn't have an RMSc footprint for the optic cut. Not 100% what it is but it looks like it might be the RMSk (no rear lugs, short front lugs) but the front lugs are cut kind of funny. Everyone online seems adamant that the shield has an RMSc cut so either someone had some fun with mine or Smith changed their cut recently.
I have one and it’s great.
looks snappy nice though
S&W has been putting out some incredibly quality pistols these last few years. I’m gonna be broke before long. 😂
I’d love a performance center 4” barrel minus the ported / comp portion. Then we could swap it out for a threaded barrel and supress it.
Do youthink it would shoot any better than the equalizer?? it shoots really well!!
I got reallly good with original one. Im curious to get a hold of that one.
I really like this particular model and the price seems right. Did Smith decide to stop with the extra grip modules for different hand sizes?
I definitely want the thumb safety model.
Why?
The shield thumb safety was not well executed. hard to engage and disregard so I kept mine in the off position. if someone offered a replacement that extended further out in width and was longer that could fix the issue.
@@freakfly23 ignorance is addressable, stupid likely not.
@@freakfly23??? For safety! Many of us learned in the military. If carry appendix...and you like your nuts ...it's no different than anything...train that way. Why do folks keep asking this question. Pull, finger off trigger, take off safety...duhhh.
Does anyone know what brand of pistol is known for most self inflicted wounds and negligent discharges? Glock.
My son in law has an original shield I think is a very nice gun and shoots well
I regret getting rid of mine.
@@TonerLowyou can find new og ones for $250 these days.
Wish that I had known this was coming out, before I bought a Canik.
Lol same, I compared this to my MC9 yesterday at the shop and I'm crying a tad bit on the inside. Only advantage I see to the Canik atm is that it's has a RMSc/k slide cut so I could mount the EPS Carry directly to the slide.
Get a new friend your current ones 😉
@@rushthezeppelin
The shield here has the same cut, lol.
@@toddk1377 So it can direct mount the Holosun RMSk mount optics as well as RMSc?
Good price
The grip on the plus fits better. I didn't like the shield and 2.0 grip. Install an Apex Tactical trigger kit on it and it will be sweet
Is it worth the "update" if you've already got a Shield Plus? I got Optics Ready Shield Plus in November 2023 as my EDC and love it, but wondering how much more shootable the carry comp is. One thing I dislike is the blacked out rear sight. I prefer the 3 dot night sights mine has.
It’s comp-ensator not comp-etition
I shot a regular shield against a ported performance center model and noticed no real difference personally.
How do you think this compares to the shield plus ported 4" pc that you previously reviewed?
Sar, I really very good all video 💯👍
Would you recommend the shield plus carry comp over a comped glock 43x?
This is a ported gun, not compensated. Idk why people cant understand this. Comps dont use barrel porting..
Some folks have said these are over sprung. Has anyone put in a different recoil spring? I have the compact carry comp and switched to a 13lb spring. Definitely an improvement. Wondering about the spring on this model (Shield plus carry comp)
Hell yeah 👍
I wonder if I can use my existing 9mm and 30sc Shield Plus barrels in the Shield Plus Carry comp slide?
It seems like if you’re using the normal Plus barrels, it would copy what the Sig Xmacro does with their comped slide, and what the PSA Micro Dagger comped C-1 slide does, which is use the shorter barrel that doesn’t extend into the comped portion of the slide.
Looks good❤
Wish they could have comped the original slide length. I don’t like how long it is.
Are you sure this model also comes with a thumb safety? If so I would certainly consider it. If not no way.
They usually offer the thumb safety models no long after the launch. I'll be surprised if they don't soon. Thanks John~
@@sootch00 hopefully it will go nicely with the ported 10mm performance center which has a thumb safety. My wife purchased one and is very happy with it . Actually just edited after checking, it was your review of that firearm that swung her to picking it up, THANK YOU
Thumb safeties on the shields are horrible to use. They make them too small and hard to use. I'd go with a different model if you really want a thumb safety. If they used the same style of safety selector like they did on the EZ pistols, I think that would be much better.
@@toddk1377 Ty for the info and the slide release on the 10 mm isn’t as nice as it could be although it is loosening up a bit 👍
Is the comp a gimmick or does it shoot much flatter than the base model which is $200 cheaper?
Is it me Unk or was the Smith & Wesson 4-in performance shield that you reviewed two years ago lighter recoil and the same exact pistol is this except for the slide?!🤔 The recall even seems less from the version you had two years ago.
How top heavy is it? I always thought the original 4 inch shield plus was a bit top heavy.
I’m trying to make a decision on this gun or the shield plus but I’ve seen a lot of videos where people say the carry comp has more recoil and is more snappy than the regular shield plus. I can’t see how this is possible. You have both and shot both you say the carry comp is not snappier correct?
It’s the additional mass out front. From what I gather on a 13 or 15 round mag it equalizes the weight but the 10rnd puts it a little front heavy making that mass flip on recoil more noticeable. I’m in the same boat of deciding between the two.
Smith really needs to go back to coating the frames the I absolutely hate that matte look my shield plus is like that. The earlier shield plus had a cerakoted black frame and it looked so much better.
Is this better than the GLOCK 19?Thanks
Like a Glock 48 , but improved.
I love all of the new guns but I still daily carry my S&W sd 40 first gen. It has saved my life once already so I trust it and can't get rid of it
so what, if any, is the difference in the trigger between the carry comp PC shield and the standard shield plus? it looks exactly the same. is it PC tuning ? what does that involve and how does that translate to shooting experience ?
Can you order it with the option of wanting three of the same size clips ?
Not a huge fan of these I don’t see the need to add a compensator to a concealed carry pistol and I think the new slide serrations cheapen the look
Is it top-heavy, knowing that the frame is made out of polymer?
plz review the compact carry comp
Is the slide length similar to the Glock 48?
Muzzle flip is ridiculously low.