The Welsh villagers who could become Britain’s first climate refugees

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.ย. 2019
  • Climate change protests have taken place across the world. But nowhere in Britain is facing the consequences of global warming quite like Fairbourne, a village on the coast of North West Wales. Residents have been told that their homes will have to be abandoned because of the rise in sea levels.

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  • @wbell539
    @wbell539 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Tell me why someone that was employed in government doesn't understand that government has no plan.
    There is no plan!

  • @diekssus7194
    @diekssus7194 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Since when is living below sea level dangerous, I'm dutch and my family has lived like that for centuries.

    • @mrtrashcompaktor1540
      @mrtrashcompaktor1540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ya bullshitter

    • @vw9502
      @vw9502 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Let's see how that works out over the next 30-50 years.

    • @mrtrashcompaktor1540
      @mrtrashcompaktor1540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@vw9502 Yeah I posted about the 1953 north sea flood where 1836 deaths happened in netherlands + 1993 &1995 floods where 240 000 people were evacuated but the post kept disappearing....

    • @mrtrashcompaktor1540
      @mrtrashcompaktor1540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@vw9502 the deaths head/enforcer avatar suggests he is some sort of war criminal/human rights abuser or fascist...to me

    • @Spike20101000
      @Spike20101000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fake. Christ I am not from the Netherlands and far more informed of the history and subsequently flood defences.

  • @Dear_Mr._Isaiah_Deringer
    @Dear_Mr._Isaiah_Deringer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    My four points plan(e):
    • Raise them houses on stilts.
    • Wait 50-80 years.
    • New Venice.
    • Profit.

    • @wemuk5170
      @wemuk5170 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ᴅᴇᴀʀ ᴍʀ. ɪꜱᴀɪᴀʜ ᴅᴇʀɪɴɢᴇʀ; Good point. In early childhood I used to live in a house on high strengthened stilts & a major flood came! The flood waters went dangerously as high as the stilts. Schools were cancelled : hurrah! We survived. Nationally, our architects & builders need radically to design and build different housing.

    • @justjackman
      @justjackman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would cost a fortune

    • @garsm2290
      @garsm2290 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Welsh gondoliers?

    • @stuartschaffner9744
      @stuartschaffner9744 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gar Sm , in the dead of winter no less.

    • @wemuk5170
      @wemuk5170 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      justjackman Of course, it would cost but first, lives and livelihoods are far more of value than new houses. Secondly, the huge cost will be next to nothing when compared to the loss of an entire community. Further, if we simply let receding coasts drive us ever more inward, there will hardly be much else to live on this island of ours - in the distant future. It is false economy to take the short term view not to spend, not to invest in long term innovative housing.

  • @davewilson4008
    @davewilson4008 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    6:50 Plenty of hot air up there, sticks middle finger up. You gotta love modern journalism lol

  • @jackarrows1436
    @jackarrows1436 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Prepared that man is, on his wrist he has a Diver watch

  • @-heathen-3622
    @-heathen-3622 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    i mean the welsh name for the area translates to english as 'marsh' that kinda says enough to me... glad i live in the valleys, but i'm sure we could start a go fund me to buy some armbands for those dumb enough to by property in flood areas

    • @istvanglock7445
      @istvanglock7445 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, even without global warming I wouldn't buy a house below sea level right next to the sea.

    • @ThePp12345678
      @ThePp12345678 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What a silly comment!
      The valleys have rivers throughout and as farmer's are no longer allowed to clear rivers (EPA rules they must be left alone) from branches, leaves etc rivers have been over flowing fuel to blockages, so if you are on top of a hill there's increased risk of landslides and at the bottom flooding. Also doesn't help is EU rule that farmer's have had to dig up trees growing within a certain distance from crops or they won't receive CAP Payment. Trees obviously soak up a lot of rainwater now water freely flows down to lower parts of land. Policy is good for dry Countries but no good for Wales due to the amount of rain we have. With all these stupid rules no where is free from the risk of flooding!

    • @-heathen-3622
      @-heathen-3622 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ThePp12345678 my comment is silly? I'm pretty sure judging by yours you've never been to the valleys.
      for a start, the majority of farms here in the valleys are highland farms and are predominantly cattle or sheep they don't grow crops and most of the lowland and valley floors are classed as 'brownfield' due to most having old coal collieries there, so are unsuitable for farmland or housing. most of the housing in the valleys is built on the tops or running along the sides of the valleys well above the rivers bellow, (obviously with a few exceptions) and thanks to that crazy thing called gravity water runs down into those rivers below.
      flooding is very uncommon here and when it does happen it's usually due to blocked drainage, which usually happens around the fall when the drains become clogged with dead leaves.
      so that negates your farm and landslide theories, but still leaves me kind of baffled why you would try and call out someone who actually lives here with such a dumb comment?

    • @honved1
      @honved1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThePp12345678 Have you ever been to the valleys? Im from the Rhondda and know for a fact that you are talking from a position of ignorance.

    • @suzyqualcast6269
      @suzyqualcast6269 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      -HEATHEN- : thought it was Moss, like round Manchester ¿?

  • @mavisbeeswax8136
    @mavisbeeswax8136 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That estuary is eroding the land , perfectly normal, those houses next to it will need to be abandoned. Poor planning by the council.

    • @kitemanmusic
      @kitemanmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The estuary is not eroding the land. Rivers deposit silt. The 'problem' is supposedly sea level rise. I wonder what is happening in Holland?

    • @Spike20101000
      @Spike20101000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kitemanmusic Well, its more complicated than that. A problem with The Netherlands, or in fact anywhere, includes rivers, is flooding. All their flood defences are in part the sea, but a huge part in relation to the Rhine and the tides.
      Huge areas are dedicated to flood water, and act as storage until the tide is low enough for them to open the barrier and release the water.
      With rising tides, the issue becomes they wont be low enough to drain. So larger areas are needed to store the river water, as well as larger embankments to hold out the sea. And there is no pumping system that can match the flow of the Rhine. None.
      Its likely, those 1000 people in this little village will pale in comparison to the displacement of people in the Netherlands.

    • @kitemanmusic
      @kitemanmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Spike20101000 Can you not let the river water flow straight into the sea?

  • @Chris66Mas
    @Chris66Mas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very shocked! A few years ago, we visited this beautiful village, and said to each other, how much we would love to move there. Now, it looks like a blessing, that we couldn't afford it. Really sad for the people there.((

  • @rhysrunsriot
    @rhysrunsriot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    English villagers in Welsh town. But still, there needs to be "planning", but that's not really a British thing.

    • @andrewjones-productions
      @andrewjones-productions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ...plus the fact that Fairbourne is not a historic dwelling but was developed as a seaside resort. The coast there used to be called Morfa Henddol, but of course the Englishman who developed it had no problem in eradicating the local name and giving it an English one which is neither translation or in any way related to the area. I find it ironic that now a bunch of English immigrants now want Gwynedd to save their homes on a piece of land that should not even really be there. Not the best example for dealing with the REAL issue of putting forward plans on how to deal with helping people retreat from vulnerable coastal areas or indeed save villages and towns from the sea.

    • @W1DO
      @W1DO 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saxglend9439 more xenophobic than racist. Does the welsh name translate to "sea bog field"?

    • @jhgrees
      @jhgrees 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@W1DO Morfa means Marsh

    • @garsm2290
      @garsm2290 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They commute back to England to work maybe?

    • @rhysrunsriot
      @rhysrunsriot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@saxglend9439 There's nothing more racist than colonising another country and renaming all the place names because you're too ignorant to pronounce them properly. That's how the English have abused Wales.

  • @andrewmartin6445
    @andrewmartin6445 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a. Shocking way to treat those people.

    • @Junyo
      @Junyo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Shocking" is one word "primitive" is another and "uncaring" yet another.

    • @woden3894
      @woden3894 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In what way? They bought homes at sea level where there at risk of flooding whether through climate change or not. Other people don't get paid componsation for buying high risk property on floodplains or eroding cliffs and I fail to see why the tax payers should compensate for their poor decisions. I could make some exceptions like those who brought their council houses, but many of them are retires or people that have bought holiday homes.

    • @fuckfannyfiddlefart
      @fuckfannyfiddlefart 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are Brexit sports that cost Brian billions so far.
      Screw them, stop subsiding the Welsh!

  • @truecanadian1616
    @truecanadian1616 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    So the ones who built their houses BELOW sea level are complaining ??? And by the way it won't rise higher here than 20 miles up th3 coast...

    • @jonsmustache7704
      @jonsmustache7704 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      fran bran Because 80 years into the future is quite a long time from a present day perspective. But if you think about it for more than two seconds you’d realize that while it may not directly concern you in your lifetime, your children and grandchildren will face the consequences.

    • @truecanadian1616
      @truecanadian1616 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Saw the same sort of thing being pushed for ONE bay on the US East coast. Just climate change fear mongering since, while sea levels would not rise uniformly around the world they will within a 100 mile radius. More likely caused by subsidence or erosion but, hey, it's trendy to blame Climate Change for everything including male pattern baldness ...

    • @Nick-ii3ux
      @Nick-ii3ux 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @fran bran Iran and the US won't go to war. If the US really want to start it, it would have started.

    • @Nick-ii3ux
      @Nick-ii3ux 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@truecanadian1616 we're just seeing a pissing contest right now

    • @jhgrees
      @jhgrees 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @fran bran - Didn't you Listen? Most of them are English. Perhaps they could have stayed in England and got their feet wet there.

  • @debtanswell6925
    @debtanswell6925 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    yeee gods i can not belive this whole conversation, have you all been sleeping for the last year alone, what part of it aint only gonna hit poor brown people do you not get!, and even if it did would ypu let that happen. i feel like i have slipped back 20 years to an old vid....how ignotant people choose to be.....I am FARMER

    • @Kerrsartisticgifts
      @Kerrsartisticgifts 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      how much has sea levels risen in the last five years? Is your Farm in danger of submerging? They've got lots of higher ground, couldn't those people have made some roads and houses fifty or a hundred feet or more above sea level than they are now, in that last five years?

  • @raf1651
    @raf1651 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Actually our children and grandchildren will suffocate but they will suffocate rich!

  • @jmuld1
    @jmuld1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    But when did sea level begin to rise, when did mans co2 begin to rise, basic question left unaddressed.

    • @Welsh_Veteran_420_Z
      @Welsh_Veteran_420_Z 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's OK we will be going back into the next ice age in a few hundred years.. Ironically the best way to stop it would be to increase Co2 levels

  • @AtheistEve
    @AtheistEve 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    9:45 “The minute you say that people can’t have things, I think that’s where the problem starts.” I assume that he will be pushing for legalization of all banned drugs, then. If governments didn’t go around telling people what they can or can’t do there’d be no need for governments and policy studies; he’d be out of a job and I’d be all for _that_ job loss.

    • @suzyqualcast6269
      @suzyqualcast6269 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      JE Hoyes : Good point, bout time, hope SO (fet & cidA).

  • @stevevassallo4323
    @stevevassallo4323 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Comments below that blame the residents of this old community are (ironically) likely posted by basement dwelling trolls approaching middle age that will never be able to afford a home of their own. Better have a backup plan to save your Playstation before the basement floods.

  • @chrisrynn1
    @chrisrynn1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just before the 7 minute mark, the amazing eye roll after "... What a stunning backdrop."
    :-D

  • @TedThomasTT
    @TedThomasTT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks channel 4, there was a recent lack of gammon telling me they don't believe in science but I can always depend on you.

  • @irvingkurlinski
    @irvingkurlinski 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Move them into Windsor Castle.

    • @suzyqualcast6269
      @suzyqualcast6269 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Irving Kurlinski but Windsors up the Thames and will also likely go under.

  • @altonalex1235
    @altonalex1235 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've got a holiday home in fairbourne I love it there and just to hear that makes me scared. I don't want fairbourne to be demolished and it won't leave fairbourne. We got a great village and it doesn't deserve this

  • @snowstrobe
    @snowstrobe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This wouldn't have been as frought if Britain hadn't privatised land.

  • @iansteel1447
    @iansteel1447 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is rubbish, the council just dont want to pay to fix the sea wall.

    • @Spike20101000
      @Spike20101000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Seek-Light Makes me wish I could put links in comments without them being blocked. There is an excellent piece on youtube about the building of dams, and how the movement of the water table can erode under by sheer force of mass.

    • @iansteel1447
      @iansteel1447 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Dutch seem to manage.

  • @heatleynoble
    @heatleynoble 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    BREAKING NEWS village could be lost to sea .......... In 30 years!!!!!!

  • @El-Tel63-Terry.
    @El-Tel63-Terry. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    You live below sea level ... what do people expect ?

    • @herculeholmes504
      @herculeholmes504 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Shhh! You'll upset the loonies.

    • @dgh469
      @dgh469 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      70% of the Netherlands is below Sea Level ... Toadie

    • @howard1beale
      @howard1beale 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lets have a bit of compassion here, why not?

  • @ianbanner9292
    @ianbanner9292 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sea rise in the last fifty years, not noticed in various ports and harbours.!

  • @frmcf
    @frmcf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m not sure that the state/taxpayer/society should be compensating those who bought or built houses below sea level. If it was about a community whose livelihoods had depended on that land for generations then there would be an argument. However, English retirees who’ve made money elsewhere and chosen to relocate to this place because it’s pretty don’t get as much sympathy from me.

  • @misschief4283
    @misschief4283 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Are there *any* Welsh people in this report?

    • @stuartjackson8091
      @stuartjackson8091 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a colony. English one that is.

    • @misschief4283
      @misschief4283 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stuartjackson8091 Must be even the school kids sound English!

  • @jaydoole1957
    @jaydoole1957 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hasn’t flooded since the 40s😂😂😂 don’t build in a flood zone simple

  • @WilliamHunterII
    @WilliamHunterII 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are always tradeoffs or sacrifices, which we make, in everything we do. Right now in order to live the way we do we are sacrificing. We are sacrificing the air we breath.

  • @korgull8448
    @korgull8448 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "We need a national UK wide strategy" Nobody can even agree on Brexit never mind the massive effort we need to put into climate change issues. So as per usual no plan will be formed...Until we are all up to our eyes in sea water.

  • @crazystuff3538
    @crazystuff3538 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wasn't Sanfransico Bay once a rolling grass land with hills before it flooded way back?

  • @nirvanamadpaul
    @nirvanamadpaul 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Erosion happens.. live there at your own risk.
    Flood plans are called prime housing land as its flat.....and floods hence the name.
    Some people need to go to school and do GCSE geography.
    Councils need to know where they are safe to build not the easiest as its the home buyer who foots the bill for poorly planned housing..........and I'm homeless so shouldn't care.. but COMMON SENSE SAYS....

    • @Junyo
      @Junyo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Erosion happens in The Netherlands as well and you don't see anyone deciding to "decommission" Amsterdam.

    • @KilgoreTrout11235
      @KilgoreTrout11235 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Junyo Amsterdam is useful

    • @Junyo
      @Junyo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@KilgoreTrout11235 - So, what you're saying there is a scale that you would put all coastal areas on and assign a "value" to each one of them and, depending on how bad its all going to get, you'll let one-after-the-other sink beneath the waves?
      Isn't it a much better (and cheaper) idea to make plans for the whole country, spread the cost over many years, and respect every community equally?
      I mean, you might be dry now, but once you start throwing people overboard, there will come a time when the water reaches you and there is nobody left to help you.

    • @rogerstubbs2731
      @rogerstubbs2731 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Junyo venice is also underwater and they are ok

    • @emm_arr
      @emm_arr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rogerstubbs2731 Well, they lost the lower floor of their houses to the sea!

  • @Edsbar
    @Edsbar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why would property owners be entitled to compensation for something that isn't the authority's doing?

    • @vw9502
      @vw9502 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @MGazT Or the people who caused it... because decades after climate change was identified as an existential risk, there still isn't an emissions tax.

    • @vw9502
      @vw9502 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Daniel Stovell They would have an interesting case. I don't think the local council is obliged to make an investment that isn't fiscally sound or supported by the majority of those whose wellbeing it oversees. Would be interesting to know how the rest of the council's residents would feel about their taxes being spent to defend indefensible property from a long-known hazard people have ignored.

  • @petertripp3153
    @petertripp3153 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i can understand they may need to be rehomed at some point, but why do they need to demolish their homes

  • @nopretribrapture2318
    @nopretribrapture2318 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most of us over 50 probably won't be here,but yes the UK will shrink

  • @mohammadshoeb2138
    @mohammadshoeb2138 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just read about it today in Indian newspaper which led me here

  • @ajblundell
    @ajblundell 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    they bought the houses knowing it was under seal level

  • @NickMusselle
    @NickMusselle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    straight away Robert nails his colours in his language, 'left wing' he said. rather than looking at the evidence, and the sacrifice people have to make where they live. go away Robert do some research and then talk from a place of knowledge.

  • @philliplamoureux9489
    @philliplamoureux9489 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The sea level rise will be worse and sooner than anybody is anticipating!

    • @paulmarchant9231
      @paulmarchant9231 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They've been saying that for decades.......

    • @philliplamoureux9489
      @philliplamoureux9489 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulmarchant9231 I wish you a long and healthy life so you live three more decades to see this come to pass :)

  • @crazystuff3538
    @crazystuff3538 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why should they be compensated?

  • @yabyum108
    @yabyum108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    coleman talks of 'human nature' as though it were a definite unchanging thing. on his tongue, the phrase 'human nature' is an ideological trope.

    • @kimwarburton8490
      @kimwarburton8490 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @HMQ its been proven we have a stronger need n desire for cooperation than aggression across humanity

  • @ruidean72
    @ruidean72 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Sea Levels were definitely going to rise, no insurance company would insure anything close to the shore. Also no Bank sell mortgages to buy homes near the shore

  • @T.287J
    @T.287J 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve visited fair our entire every year of my life on holiday and now the lovely people of Fairbourne are going to be kicked out of their homes and no guarantee of a new home

  • @Dave68Goliath
    @Dave68Goliath 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The estuary was never that full of sand and silt 50 yrs ago. It needs dredging

  • @billbo7630
    @billbo7630 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think someone's having a laugh. Everywhere you look in that area are eyesores of slag and rock from the old quarries. It would be the cheapest sea defences ever built, certainly one of the last places in Britain that needs to be lost to rising sea levels.

  • @mrt5293
    @mrt5293 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What they mean to say is, they can't afford to maintain the current sea defence.

  • @pam-gw6uk
    @pam-gw6uk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like a village of oldies and second homes,most will be six foot under,long before they get flooded.

  • @Ukitsu2
    @Ukitsu2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We all need to consume less, or be poorer. Or die.

  • @vw9502
    @vw9502 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Insane to see this debate framed as whether people will be willing to give up the nice things they have, as though they will continue to have those nice things if we do nothing. What they stand to lose is so much more than the ability to drive their cars, use their air conditioning and eat pork for breakfast, lunch and dinner. How much of that is going to matter when climate change brings mosquitoes to the UK carrying diseases like Eastern Equine Encephalitis - currently rendering healthy people brain dead within weeks in Michigan... when their children die from that? When hundreds of their elderly relatives die from heatstroke each summer because it is impossible to adapt quickly enough. Ridiculous. Stop trying to score political points and get real.

  • @wemuk5170
    @wemuk5170 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The reality is, when the sea comes in finally in 80 years’ time as they say, all these retirees would have already passed away. They just cannot give away their homes to their children, that’s all. This must have been foreseeable as they all bought these homes knowing that the houses are below sea level so this fact is already factored into the cheaper price & the council should not be forced to reimburse. When the homes are finally covered/destroyed by the sea after they are gone, architects & planners can then think of designing & building in nearby not-yet-affected areas in a radically different way homes that can withstand future weather & climate change challenges. These people should not be forced, to move away or to allow their homes to be demolished in the meantime. The sea does not look like it will suddenly rise above their homes in their lifetime. Channel 4 is sharpening people’s & everyone’s anxieties, as always. No wonder the mental health crisis in our times. We are bigger than our challenges & sufficiently intelligent to change & adjust to living more wisely with limited resources plus our housing will simply have to evolve!

  • @maciejmanna9246
    @maciejmanna9246 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    When UK will start falling apart after Brexit, they should ask Dutch for an annexation. These should be piece of cake for them...

  • @stevenangus4251
    @stevenangus4251 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If the Chinese can build the Great wall of China , cant the locals build a 5 kilometer long 10 meter high sea wall, from one hillside to the other hillside of this bay ?

    • @n43510
      @n43510 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If the sea rises enough that the village is always below sea level, a "sea wall" won't help. When it rains, there's nowhere for the water to go ... and it rains a lot in Wales.
      A sea wall is fine when the land is above the low-tide level. Then you can open gates in the wall to let water out at low tide, and close the gates at other times.

    • @stevenangus4251
      @stevenangus4251 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@n43510 What a load of rubbish your comment is. the sea wall would just be like a cliff on the coast line, any affect of water retention would literatually be a drop in the ocean

  • @annov7500
    @annov7500 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    There'sid no funding...we have endless funding for tax Dodgers and Banks...

  • @Ukitsu2
    @Ukitsu2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:15 Sacrifice or die. Fly less or die. Forget about cars or die.

  • @oneoflokis
    @oneoflokis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    They must fight against it!! With a lawsuit!!

    • @oneoflokis
      @oneoflokis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saxglend9439 Sue the government, more like!!

    • @oneoflokis
      @oneoflokis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saxglend9439 Boris'.

    • @W1DO
      @W1DO 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saxglend9439 yes, obviously its BoJo to blame....

  • @David-iu7nt
    @David-iu7nt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    As individuals a vast majority willfully harm and neglect our own bodies, if we cant look after ourselves, what hope is there of looking after the planet? Human nature will inevitably run it's course and nature will sort itself out through the passage of time!

  • @johnnybourgeois13
    @johnnybourgeois13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Interesting that the teenagers today expressed themselves far clearer and more articulately than the middle aged man from the "free enterprise" wonk-tank. He sounded like he was having a hard time actually believing himself. In general, the mumbling defensiveness of those others like him is giving their own losing game away; they are the representatives of the past's failed ideology in the middle of an epoch defining paradigm shift that's happening whether they like to recognise it or not.
    Nobel laureate Bob Dylan put it best about the huge 1960s social shift that conservatives were then denying -
    " Something is happening here, but you don't know what is / Do you, Mr. Jones ? " th-cam.com/video/we37yX3zpKA/w-d-xo.html
    The 60s conservatives were wrong, and they're wrong again now. History is the graveyard record of dead conservative ideas, social Progress always wins through eventually, because it is the direction of natural network forces, the analogue of evolution in biology.
    Good on the youngsters; their smiles and energy are worth far more than the self-interested propaganda of sad old fools on their way down the hill.

    • @tams805
      @tams805 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He just goes on about metrics rather any actual change. Growth/GDP is just a measure, not a solution, but the likes of him just can't get past it. It doesn't help their arguments that you can't have indefinite growth in a system with finite resources without others losing out. Then, as he said, people don't like making sacrifices/losing resources, so how does he think those others are going to react?

    • @trevorhoward2254
      @trevorhoward2254 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tams805 But the children understand nothing. Their spouting of dogma doesn't equate to anything more than what they've been told to say in order to get a gold star for their work.
      Notice how they always take their cameras to the posh white kids as well? The kids, like their parents, teachers and the media live in a smug echo chamber.

    • @vascoribeiro69
      @vascoribeiro69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is called brainwash! Every minute in news, in school.

    • @ruidean72
      @ruidean72 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      All teenagers should lead by example and throw out their mobile phones and other media devices. These devices are lethal to our planet not only with billions of phones and devices being charged every day, but the lithium mining required to produce these toxic batteries for devices, is the most toxic type of mining out of all. In addition, Lithium is a very rare resource and will not last long. Fossil Fuels will last longer than toxic Lithium

  • @garsm2290
    @garsm2290 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wear a jersey instead of overheating your house, walk to school, stop using Smartphones made in China (10% of electricity now goes on data-centres), don't fly, and don't have more than one child.

  • @henryarero
    @henryarero ปีที่แล้ว

    Climate change is Global but its effect varies from region to Africa the most affected.

  • @missroberts3148
    @missroberts3148 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love how they say everything so costly they print the money if there weren't money everyone would be living in abundance n working together council biggest excuse is money that they created yeah right the world provides what we need its provided us with everything to make things yet apparently it costs? I hope all these people get the protection they need god bless you x

  • @henryarero
    @henryarero ปีที่แล้ว

    Raising water level?

  • @sixmagpies
    @sixmagpies 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Buy a house on a beach, and then blame the climate and the council?
    Darwin proven right yet again.

    • @trueg66
      @trueg66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In the Netherlands millions of people live below sea level, fortunately the Dutch government protects her
      inhabitants.

  • @johnlemberger5088
    @johnlemberger5088 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    C4 was beaten to this story by the German DW.

  • @johngage5391
    @johngage5391 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you incentivize people to generate less climate pollution? Economists nearly unanimously say the most efficient way is to put a steadily increasing price on the pollution. Here's a fair way to do that: citizensclimatelobby.org/basics-carbon-fee-dividend

  • @iedco4
    @iedco4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I know this one. The EU Emergency Fund will sort this ! Oh Wait !!

  • @johoward2251
    @johoward2251 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    11:38*

  • @mountainfreedom9000
    @mountainfreedom9000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is fairbourne full of English people

    • @emm_arr
      @emm_arr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe so - with people mainly from Birmingham originally.

    • @mohammedmohammed519
      @mohammedmohammed519 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      M R yes, my family has a house there

  • @AtlantaBill
    @AtlantaBill 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    On Fairbourne's Wikipedia page: "The Company was founded by Joseph Rank in 1875 as flour milling business when he rented a small windmill.[citation: Burnett, R.G. (2004) _Through the Mill, The life of Joseph Rank 150th Anniversary Edition._ Epworth Press.]" Now, what do you suppose the "small windmill" could have been for? Could it have been used as windmills are in Holland, for pumping out water? To me, this _Channel 4 News_ story is nothing but a fabrication designed to cause hysteria and evidencing a design to support a political agenda. I'm not in the least worried for my family's ancestral estates that are located across the Irish Sea among extensive marshlands of the River Severn in western Shrewsbury, or what used to be called Pengwern, the ancient capital of the Welsh Kingdom of Powys. It's my intention to contact the peerage in regard to the misrepresentations that _Channel 4 News_ has made in this matter.

  • @malcolmrowe5031
    @malcolmrowe5031 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    more pubic transport, how about making buses comply with emissions!!

  • @richardalexander130
    @richardalexander130 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sea could rise or land could sink

  • @dannybatterbee2748
    @dannybatterbee2748 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe we need advice from the Chinese since our own government can't reclaim land by building it higher! How thick and they want to Brexit. Can't even build sand castles

  • @Jimmy4video
    @Jimmy4video 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Caroline Lucas very clear and coherent answers for our times. Vote Green!

  • @ADebaser
    @ADebaser 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:49 ...and he's giving the finger. You're welcome

  • @remcovanek2
    @remcovanek2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Meanwhile in the Netherlands: deltaprogram in full swing www.deltacommissaris.nl and the situation looks a bit less grim www.carbonbrief.org/studies-shed-new-light-on-antarcticas-future-contribution-to-sea-level-rise

  • @aon10003
    @aon10003 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ebbywale got lots of empty houses. You can move there.

  • @jimbojones101
    @jimbojones101 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    PURE PROPAGANDA FROM CHANNEL 4 ~ ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING.

  • @crazystuff3538
    @crazystuff3538 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That women needs a sock

  • @Metonymy1979
    @Metonymy1979 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Say goodbye. There is no defense against mother nature.

  • @margyrowland
    @margyrowland 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The other name for climate change is WEATHER! Love from Australia 🇦🇺

    • @emm_arr
      @emm_arr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's untrue, but that's what fools say.

  • @berosmith9041
    @berosmith9041 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bit late, isn't it?

  • @crystaltrees4188
    @crystaltrees4188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When SHE started talking, I turned off. Something about her non verbal communication and she keeps smiling while being aggressive.

  • @amigaamigo5307
    @amigaamigo5307 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Build a wall

  • @London_miss234
    @London_miss234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Levies. A wall may be better cost. Steel tiny rods, reinforced glass criss crosses to see the sea.

    • @Jimmy4video
      @Jimmy4video 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who's going to pay for that?

    • @London_miss234
      @London_miss234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Possibly private investment, and government.

    • @Jimmy4video
      @Jimmy4video 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@London_miss234 if you knew the cost of levies you wouldn't presume that to be a viable plan for a community this size.

    • @London_miss234
      @London_miss234 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Walrave If the government pull the houses, won’t that be expensive, too.

    • @Jimmy4video
      @Jimmy4video 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@London_miss234 not even remotely similar in cost.

  • @billtsui2171
    @billtsui2171 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you President Trump?

  • @NT-no7py
    @NT-no7py 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:49

  • @showme360
    @showme360 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will the people of Fairbourne become the first refugees of climate change. What about the east coast, and homes flooded near rivers and in flood plains. Come on Channel 4 you can do better than this. Coastal erosion has been occurring all around the country, and many have already lost their homes. But the plight of these people’s livelihood is very real, as there homes where promised by the ‘capitalists system’ as their offsprings inheritance!
    Resources are not endless they finite, so there goes capitalism out the window, end of. Not until people are told the truth about where we as a species are heading, will they listen to pragmatism. All the time the capitalist are allow to offer the future prosperity things will not change. Because people always resist change, unless it’s for the better. That is why China has been so successful at copying us, they are renowned for it, they don’t give to farts about copyrights, much to the frustration of trump. But they also realise the destruction of the planet is equally not good, so they will and can change fast because they have not have the ‘capitalist good life’ for that long. Old habits die hard, and that is very true for us as we were after all the mother of the industrialised world. Ever our infrastructure is so old it make change much harder and costly.
    However I believe we need to find away, because the current governmental system does not work, Brexit has clearly demonstrate this. Il conceived, poorly executed, and reluctant to change. They simply thought everyone want to remain.
    We need a new system of government to get us out of this mess, and using anew voting system to achieve it. I believe XR might hold the answers to these questions, if the media would allow them a voice, on a daily basis. Unfortunately the media is capitalist owned shop window and cast its spell of optimism to all. Have you not wonder why the news focuses on bad news all the time!, and is then followed by a holiday advert, do you not notice the pedalling of good will advertising for the poor people in the third world, and is then followed by a new car advert. It’s all about conditioning the mind set.
    We need to hit the emergency stop but, on everything we do, and we need a plan to do it inside ten years!

  • @61shirley
    @61shirley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    First? You should read a few history books, this has been going on since the dawn of time.

    • @jameswhiteley6843
      @jameswhiteley6843 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Odd how all the people pushing the Climate Change hoax live in coastal areas.

    • @emm_arr
      @emm_arr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jameswhiteley6843 Stupid post, James! You'll be making claims about their race soon - and saying you are not a racist too.

    • @jonsmustache7704
      @jonsmustache7704 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      JAMES WHITELEY Odd isn’t it, how all the people who would be most directly affected by climate change are the most concerned about climate change. It’s almost as if that’s perfectly logical.

    • @jameswhiteley6843
      @jameswhiteley6843 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jons Mustache odd how the people who stand to gain the most from destroying the middle-class live in all these coastal cities such as Malibu and the East Coast in the US.

    • @jonsmustache7704
      @jonsmustache7704 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      JAMES WHITELEY Who exactly is the enemy here? Can you give a specific income bracket? Is it people who make 50k/year or more? 75k/year or more? 1mil/year or more?

  • @backach1
    @backach1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    lets hear a welsh accent
    could not get the stout harted welsh any other way but to flood em
    they know who they are and they have kept the global wolves at bay
    not for much longer it seems

  • @baigandinel7956
    @baigandinel7956 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have nothing against farmers, but you don't automatically get to migrate into someone else's territory just because circumstances have mandated a change of career. I mean they are not out of drinking water or anything, are they? But then the Welsh already live in the UK, so are not proper "climate refugees" anyway.

  • @RDHamel
    @RDHamel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:18 Robert Colvile... hmmm... looks kind of young...
    ... for a dinosaur.

  • @namelast6982
    @namelast6982 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's always the Welsh :(

    • @honved1
      @honved1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You wont find many welsh people there, its a saes town.

  • @macbuff81
    @macbuff81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Actually it is not about ending capitalism. It is about removing the worst parts of socialism from it which is corporate welfare. For a very long time huge corporations, like big oil, have been given direct and indirect subsidies which go AGAINST free market principles. This is what these self-described free market proponents conveniently leave out. I also appreciate freedom of choice. However, endless growth actually works against choice by exhausting resources in the long run. Advances in technologies indeed are the key to hopefully stopping Earth turning into a lighter version of Venus. Here the market can work but ONLY IF the real cost of doing business is actually reflected in the price of a good or service (see above).

  • @philmacaulay7956
    @philmacaulay7956 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    on IPCC and Al Gore predictions this place should already be under 10ft of water - Ohh - but it's not - what a surprise!

  • @sharkweek44
    @sharkweek44 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep damn women out of politics

    • @emm_arr
      @emm_arr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's not rebellious!

  • @ccbkkboy
    @ccbkkboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    40% of Holland is under sea level and the Dutch have no problems living there through clever management/engineering. The sea level has dropped there, this is bs.

    • @ccbkkboy
      @ccbkkboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just to add if you go to Harlech castle what’s been there for 100’s of years you’d see how much lower the sea level has got to what it once was, evidence is there.

    • @emm_arr
      @emm_arr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ccbkkboy "Just to add if you go to Harlech castle what’s been there for 100’s of years you’d see how much lower the sea level has got to what it once was, evidence is there." You are stupid. The river systems flowing into the Irish Sea tend to deposit silt and build new land. The sea level has NOT dropped at Harlech.
      The Romans used the Dee for trade - not the Mersey. A thousand years later it had silted so much that it wasn't really viable any more.
      Effing stupid.

  • @Yahweh312
    @Yahweh312 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    .. KOSHER is halal HALAL is kosher tic toc

  • @certificateofvaccinationi.d.19
    @certificateofvaccinationi.d.19 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The sea isnt rising...them houses have been there 50 years,still dry,they will be there in the future too.dry!

  • @jameswhiteley6843
    @jameswhiteley6843 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah, yeah.

  • @kitemanmusic
    @kitemanmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isn't it a shame to scare all our young children? No wonder they are getting depressed. Global Warning is a lot of hot air!
    Aren't the Greens calling for austerity? Have people been complaining about this for many years?

  • @humanbean123
    @humanbean123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a disgusting use of power! All hinged on unproven theoretical projections!!

    • @W1DO
      @W1DO 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Planning for the future is terrible right?

    • @humanbean123
      @humanbean123 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@W1DO No. I don't think so. And, actually, as tough as decisions could be, the community should have been involved! It is WRONG (IMHO) that they were not consulted by the council.

    • @W1DO
      @W1DO 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@humanbean123 talking to the residents first makes sense, but that wont stop the sea rising. The future is always a projection, but looking at the past and also projecting likely scenarios gives a good idea (e.g the mean sea level in the place I live has risen 6.9mm per year for the last decade - info only from 5 tidal guages & includes any land settlement).