People Under 50 Should Quit The UK Says Economist
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2023
- We all know that Britain has problems, high inflation, record taxes, mortgage rates on the up, a housing crisis and an NHS in chaos.
But one economist says that everyone under 50 should seriously consider quitting Britain as the only way to have a better and more prosperous life.
A blistering newspaper column says the country is not just stagnating, its fossilising rights, suggesting that if young British people knew what was good for them, they'd be on the next plane out of the country.
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I left the UK, nearly 20yrs ago. I could see where the UK was going back then. You're right. People in the UK have no idea how much better the standard of living is in other parts of the EU for instance. More cohesion, respect of the community, better opportunities and a higher standard of living. It's a real eye opener when you move, but for the better. When I return to the UK it looks pitiful, and worse yr upon yr. It's a shame how the UK has gone.
But wouldnt we have to keep coming back for a period of months if we bought and worked in the EU post brexit?
Better where exactly. Have you seen Paris? Berlin? Athens? Rome?
Where'd you go to?
@@delgriffithificationI meet many coffee making Europeans in a hostel near Hyde park. Most were French and where there to better their English. But London isn’t the UK.
And people are much better educated
Building economies based on house prices and linked consumption instead of innovation and industry is one of the key problems.
Exactly. On that metric we're done.
No, the big problem is the destruction of our democracy back in the Tony Blair government that has left us with a duality of centre parties that is controlled by the establishment.
No matter which of the two establishment parties won an election tomorrow, NOTHING would change.
The UK is no longer a democracy and the leftist infection of the media, schools and universities has dumbed the population down to such an extent that they are oblivious to it.
The illusion of democracy will pass the baton onto the other establishment party later this year and for 8 years we will have the same middle of the road policies that the Tories have been pushing for the last 13 years. At the end of the usual 8 year Labour stint the Tories will be miraculously voted in again for their usual 12-16 year stint.
The UK has become an international joke.
@@stevengruber57 No, the big problem is the destruction of our democracy back in the Tony Blair government that has left us with a duality of centre parties that is controlled by the establishment.
No matter which of the two establishment parties won an election tomorrow, NOTHING would change.
The UK is no longer a democracy and the leftist infection of the media, schools and universities has dumbed the population down to such an extent that they are oblivious to it.
The illusion of democracy will pass the baton onto the other establishment party later this year and for 8 years we will have the same middle of the road policies that the Tories have been pushing for the last 13 years. At the end of the usual 8 year Labour stint the Tories will be miraculously voted in again for their usual 12-16 year stint.
The UK has become an international joke..
@@stevengruber57 Exactly
Same issue with Turkey.
THE BRITS STILL DON´T REALISE WHAT A STATE OF DECLINE THEIR COUNTRY IS IN !!
That is because they are continually lied to.
@@paolobenmore3504 Well, we know it. So they could, for instance, read or watch the news...
Absolutely true!!!
Many do know, but theyre already in a state of defeat!!! We need to unite faster and save each other
Everything is centred around London all the structures have broken down the North is forgotten.
People over 50 should leave as well. This country has become a total Tory cesspit.
I'm not sure politics is the problem the main issues are to do with productivity and exports. We've become a nation of consumers.
@@4ndyr0g3r50n No. The problem is unchecked immigration.
It's easily said under 50s leave the country where to go etc Canada and Australia are very expensive my advice get a skill engineering etc the country is finished
they r the cause of all the problems @@4ndyr0g3r50n
Literally- check the state of the rivers
I lived in the US,U.K. and The Netherlands. All countries have pros and cons. What I’m mostly worried about in the U.K. at the moment is that essential services are insufficient. There are cases of people waiting days for an ambulance or people dying in A&E corridors. NHS waiting lists of 7.5 million people. Unsafe roads riddled with potholes. Dirty water dumped straight into rivers and seas. Crumbling government buildings including schools and hospitals. Unstable government and polarised electorate. Worst thing is that the steps to turn the page for the U.K. have not even been taken. The government seem to have lost control and are just waiting to get voted out and be relieved from their misery.
Perfect summary
THE government has a FULL CONTROL of what's GOING on.
IT'S the CITIZENS who LOST CONTROL over THE government.
What you said is a mirror image of Ireland at present
But corporate profits and CEO salaries are way up...isn't that what's important?
So more debt or more taxes to fix that?
I had to leave the UK 15 years ago when I was 50 as I had been made redundant and could not find work...After interview after interview the message I was getting at that time was I was maybe a little "too old". I went to Indonesia and found work and after a year was promoted and soon promoted again. Suddenly I had value again. I was head hunted and moved to Vietnam...I had a dream job and a very nice salary. I had respect and my age suddenly was not a problem...rather it was a benefit to the community and the people. I was living the dream.
Last year I was diagnosed with a serious heart condition and and the cardiologists in Vietnam decided it was too dangerous for me to work anymore. I could not get a work permit anymore and had to return to the UK. Since my return I have been treated like I am a disease or crap on the sole of people's shoes. This is one hell of a depressing country. I can afford nothing and I have zero value again...gone full circle. If it wasn't for my TH-cam channel and my efforts to raise money for heart research, I would be just sitting here waiting to die...young people need to get out as soon as possible in my opinion
Yawn.
Well it doesn't seem to have done you much good in the end, and you was able to come back to the UK and receive NHS treatment. But good luck with your recovery .
Sad to hear that .I personally would have chosen death than returning to the UK
Mate, I just said if I had a choice it would be Asia I would move to and you demonstrated exactly why!
So you lived it up in Asia, put no money aside and are now leaching off the state, you think this warrants sympathy?
Im a 48yr old Malaysian and used to study in Leicester, UK 24 years ago.. almost immigrated to the UK.. but decided to return home. Never regretted the choice I made then.. 😊🇲🇾 the grass has a greener pasture here.
Malaysian food and pharmacy prices are amazing. I just visited there from New Zealand. It’s awesome haha, love MY
@jamesreid-lourie5636 ive been to Christchurch and Queenstown.. stunning beauty! Love NZ..
But do you miss a proper chippy
@@jb8408 Aside from British sports culture, nope.. but im happy to visit one day.
@@jb8408I wager NOT
I had to laugh when Sam suggested going to the US. If you are not part of the top 10% of earners in the US then you are living paycheck-to-paycheck. One long hospital stay and you are financially ruined and forget about buying a house. I moved to Ecuador from California years ago and it has worked great for me.
If you got health insurance, one long hospital stay isn’t going to ruin you in the US. The healthcare in the US is vastly superior in quality to the NHS, and you’re able to access it much faster. The dirty little secret of UK healthcare is that a lot of us end up paying for private doctors because we can’t quickly access the healthcare our insanely high taxes pay for
@@jb8408 Have you priced health insurance in the US? Even if you can afford it there will be limits. That's why I said "long hospital stay". It costs thousands of dollars a day to stay in a hospital and that cost will eventually come out of your pocket if you stay there long enough.
The USA is a plutocracy.
Nice. We need to export more people.
@@jb8408health insurance for the most part isn't that great when you consider that deductibles, out of pocket costs, and copay are unreasonably high for the average person. Also, not all places take your insurance so you kind of have to shop around and hope that your provider is within service network otherwise your insurer won't cover the stay or procedure. Also insurance is tied to your job. You lose your job and now you're suddenly uninsured. The NHS may have its flaw but at everyone is covered. I think the biggest issue lies primarily in immigration. They are accepting way too many people than their infrastructure and programs can sustain
You can’t fix fundamental problems in the economy with monetary policies
We’ve deindustrialised and de-skilled
Exactly.
The more diverse we’ve become, the poorer we’ve become. The more migrants we get, the further the West have fallen behind relative to the rest of the world. It’s funny, homogeneous nations like China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan have all risen whilst the West falters.
Yes that was the big mistake. The UK should have put in the hard yards to rehabilitate its manufacturing but Thatcher and the private school brigade couldn't be bothered as the City was always going to a money maker for them.
Veddy good veddy cheep
UK started failing when they failed to defend the borders against islamic immigration. The forefathers fought tooth and nail against the turks and ottomans to defend the faith for good reasons. There are valid reasons why most non-oil producing muslim countries are in abject poverty. The faith ruins societies. And it has ruined London.
Thing is, there no longer is an incentive to participate in British society, because everything seems so out of reach and the standard of living has drastically reduced and yet we are getting nothing for our taxes. Very sad.
You lot don't want to pay taxes anyway. You want to NIMBY your way through it all.
This isn't quite true, the rich in the UK have gotten even richer than ever. Some are doing ok in the UK
@@martynblackburn9632 Ha ha, I am 73 and pay income tax and tax on my state and a couple of minuscule private pensions. It is given with on hand and taken back by another. What was the point in saving for a pension?
@@aries6776 Agree. We have become a very divided nation
@@jenniferjuniper12 Yes, a double whammy. I have colleagues from Poland who are shocked that we pay tax on pensions as they tell me this is not done in Poland.
Mass corruption within the government both local and national is the problem.
Add it to the list of problems!
@@sye601 fix corruption and lots of other issues disappear very quickly.
The problem is you ( se x pis tols. Song problems). They were right. You are toleraring it. And that is the real root cause of all the problems. Its up to you to stop it but you are not doing it so the problem is you. Take Care ❤❤❤
Scum public servants at the top of six figure salaries! These people are PUBLIC SERVANTS they should be on more than £45kpa not £700.000!!!
Council Tax payers are footing the bill and tax payers are broke on the whole.
Grift has replaced Graft. And Abdul wants to come here with his 4 wives 20 children and 3 Dancing Boys and claim benefits
I lived in the UK from 2008 to 2014. Worked 50h weeks on minimum wage studied to get into higher education and finally did my BA. I had no life. It was just scraping money, commuting, studying - my friends in Germany thought I was an idiot. The quality of life was just so much lower even back then but the BA I wanted didnt exist in Germany so it had to be London. Fast forward to 2019. I went to the UK on a work trip and walked through Hackney where I used to live before. I was now making around 40k Euro for moving the mouse 4 times a day - no commute - going to the sauna at lunch, cheaper food etc. etc. and it dawned on me when speaking to people there that no way anyone could do in 2019 what I did in 2008-2014. The rents had essentially increased by 50% ( 1bedroom flat in E17 was 750£ in 2019 when I checked it was 1150£ and that doesnt even account for inflation ) and salaries for every position I looked at where always around 10-20k lower per year. What happenend in the UK is simply that the older generation sold out the youth. This happend everywhere but nowhere near as bad as in the UK. You live in a society where a fucking single parent barber or plumber whilst doing trips abroad could have bought a house in Zone 2 in 1995 and be a millionaire twice over right now and you guys think there is nothing wrong with that picture.
Please could you tell me what industry you are in ? Sounds ideal !
@@jonnorman8326 just normal IT stuff but in Germany. Its totally normal to make 60 - 80k with a few years of experience. The wages are just considerably higher. I was looking at jobs in the UK last year and they wanted to pay 40-50k for a Senior Software Fullstack developer. Its just comical. In Germany France etc. you earn 80k - 120k per year for that. Oh and cost of living is cheaper although taxes are slightly higher
Do you speak German?
The current belief that Britain has been built on immigration is such nonsense. Immigration was minimal until the last 40 years and that actually coincides with our decline as an economic and manufacturing giant. Our wealth was not built by immigrants nor on slavery but by the Industrial Revolution. As for the notion that all we need to do is learn a language and that will open doors...while language skills are necesary they are useless without real in demand skills and we have stopped teaching those in favour of importing cheaper alternatives.
Excellent comment.
British took $45 trillion out of India in 200 years and killed 100 million Indians in 40 years
Never a truer word spoken 👍🏼
i agree with you, i would reinforce this, the cost of housing which is the most significant cost for young people has risen since Tony Blair came into power and mass immigration started. Since then every government has employed Blairism / immigration believing this is what the GB requires. unfortunately the GB electorate are too weak and pathetic to vote outside their main two parties, as a consequence this country will likely become an Islamic state within 50 years. it makes me laugh when Woman stand up for equal right and immigration. Certainly any woman under 50 should start getting use to wearing the hijab and accepting a lower status and the loss of education and civil rights
@@maidsubrena "unfortunately the GB electorate are too weak and pathetic to vote outside their main two parties" - I agree with your key point. With a first past the post voting system its very resistant to new ideas and allows a top down system. Housing, immigration, net zero. We know what the population wants but the two parties have a consensus which disallows this. Re "too weak and pathetic". Faced with a choice between bad and a worse most people choose bad. For example if you vote Reform next time, as I will, they will get very few seats and it could easily take 15 years to have an effect. In the meantime the worse party will be in power, wrecking transport and energy systems, increased taxation, maybe confiscation, enforced wokeness etc. That is a big sacrifice to try and improve things.
I voted for proportional representation, but only 32% did. We had our chance in 2011 and blew it.
I’m a Degree qualified Building Services Engineer who at the age of 25 went to work in Dubai in 1975. Since then I have lived and worked on 6 Continents and finally retired, in the Philippines ,at 67.
I tried moving back to the UK in 2000 but couldn’t get an interview let alone a job so went abroad again and havent been back to the UK since 2008 and dont Miss the place.
Lucky man... Being away from the British weather and cold culture is a blessing.
Been to the Philippines twice this year pollution and mosquitos are bad. But then again there bad in Netherlands for me. Uk is good because less mosquitos that cause me allergic reactions. Broken uk has some protives. But hay hoe my fine Philippines girlfriend becons me back to the Philippines next week. Flights booked. Glad to be leaving the Netherlands. Uk is better.
I am glad you didn’t go back, enjoy! I was unlucky my family decided to moved to such a living hell.
I am a language teacher and I can tell you, no matter what your age is you can definitely learn a language as an adult . You just need the right method
What is the "right method"?
@@clivesutcliffe487 it depends on the language . English is different than Greek or Chinese . For starters , part of the question is how heavily the language relies on grammar . But one thing I know is that the academic way to learn languages is not the right one for many many students . Several times , I have had new students tell me , I don’t want the academic method to learn the language before we start the first lesson lesson . My answer to them is that’s good cause I don’t use that method to teach .
@@clivesutcliffe487 learn the way you learnt your own language, grammar didn't come into it until you went to school.. Try Duolingo.....
I learnt Russian at 25 and I'm learning Finnish at 47.
But at school I learnt German and Latin
Left the UK. Best decision I ever made. And watching the decline of a once great country is disheartening. Great discussion.
I’ve been trying to leave, which job sites did you use?
I also left…..and glad about that….😊
Where did you go?
Wow.... where do you live now? And what job se tor do you work in?
Left for the US -- never looked back
The future of Britain is really dismal, the 70s, 80s and 90s was really the last decades where life in general was enjoyable but since the turn of the millennium the quality of life has been a steady decline and in the past 5 years the decline has been escalating quickly.
I love the way people put their rose tinted glasses on when discussing these topics. I remember the 70s - the big box of candles in case the leccy went out, the 1976 IMF loan, the OPEC oil crisis when petrol was rationed, the Winter of Discontent.
The 80s - with the re-imagining of the UK economy, 3.5million people out of work for years.
The 90s - extraordinarily high divorce rates. Black Monday, Mad Cow disease.
The quality of life has declined because of pervasive and overwhelming supervision in all aspects of our lives.
@@PGHEngineerat least the 70s had a British culture in the 70s. Now in 2023, people are poor and have no culture to fall back on, only this moronic woke mind virus.
@@PGHEngineerBut freedom.
Have you seen the new energy bill? We're going to be controlled in our own homes. Caps on energy use with fines and damaged social credit scores. The uk is heading for an orwellian nightmare. Theres other things too my parents were children of the 70s and they have many siblings, the mother stayed home and the man works and is able to afford a house and live on 1 income. Fast forward today me and my wife have to work full time just to own or rent a home and live, want children but it isn't practical with half income maternity leave and childcare costs... and only being able to see them maybe an hour per day. those i know with children only have 1.
So thats family life gone already.
On top of that the neighbourhood we pay so much to live in has seen a massive population increase. We now have muggings , stabbings we even had a guy with a machine gun the other day..
This country has gone to sh*t.
The uk is fcked and if those who fought the wars could come back and see what its like they wouldnt of gone
"The envy of the world"!! The UK is fast becoming a joke.
Nah we are a disgrace rich get richer working class pay more tax if every hard working Brit left this country would crumble. Let’s see how they survive on universal credit without our tax haven. Enough is Enough
Every civilization peaks and declines eventually. There is nothing new happening here.
It happens quicker with a controlled decline by your own govetnment
Am in New Zealand, moved here from England as a kid and spent a couple of years in the UK in my 20s. I do not envy you. I feel sorry for my British friends and family. Life here isn't perfect, but for me it's much better here than it would be in the UK
Yet, the EU cries.
Left the UK and migrated to Western Australia with my family. We now live a life that I could have never imagined, a job that pays me twice what I earned in the UK, all my children have been to university and have great jobs they love. we have a large modern home which of course has a pool and a climate in which we can use it. We also live 5 mins from beautiful white sandy beaches.
Most English UK 🇬🇧 people left the UK to Australia 🇦🇺 for the longest from convicts shipped from the UK 🇬🇧 to 10 pound pommes and many still leaving to Australia today .
I quit the UK at 39 in 2015 before Brexit.
No plans to return. Quality of life in central Europe is on another level.
l left the UK in 2021. I was 40. The only regret I have is that I didn't leave when I was younger. Australian hospitals are full of English Doctors and nurses. They all tell me they feel more valued in Aus. They are paid more, and work in nicer environments. Australia has always tended to import a lot of people with the skills that they need. Medical people and teachers have always been at the top of the list. I am not surprised that the UK has a shortage of Doctors and Nurses. They are all here!
then during caugh panic they can walk 1 meter out of their homes xD no thanks to leftists australia
We lose our indigenous medics and replace them with.....
Yes but Australia is also full of Brits who are not happy. My partner is a psychotherapist and has a fair few Brits who say they have money now but nothing else, it feels empty. Australia is unfortunately a bit soulless and very far away. I don’t believe leaving family behind and all connection to “home” is a route to happiness. Not from my experience of 10 years in Aus and all the Europeans I’ve met living here.
Too similar to UK .Look at the lock downs there
@@patriciasanderson2171 Thats a valid point. And something that any Brit who is planing on going to Aus should consider.
The problem is that everyone everywhere wants to move somewhere else to escape problems at home. The question is where is the promised land? There isn't one. What you can do is organise yourself as cleverly as possible to make the most of your own talents and then grasp any opportunities that come your way. That is as good as it is going to get.
best comment I have read, and most realistic
the promised land is low inflation countries. Bloomberg dares to call out as war between developed and emerging economies. They still don't get it why inflationary environment is like a cancer they all still struggle to tame it due to debts addiction. They shout shift the approach before it becomes abs irreversible. The society is like a huge ward of addicts coz they live above the means but their harvard experts keep saying that consumption based economy is great but China investment approach soending is too outdated 😂
What essentially they said is let's keep the bubbles at all costs because Boomers retirement is priority #1. The US and UK and rest of growing aging society shouldn't grow competitive with China or Russia at face value. Thats the real boomerang they have unconsciously created themselves
Nice, yes, I lived in Portugal for 2 years, all places have pros and cons, I decided to move back, there is so much wrong with UK but it's home and people I care about are here.
Australia looks pretty damn good! Can't think of many pros for the UK over moving there.
As an American, I can assure you that we are also looking to move abroad. Especially those who are retiring
Grass always looks greener on the other side, but often it isn’t. Good luck
Yes go to Britain
I like that saying because it holds people back from opportunities that I get to seize. Yes, don't come to Asia. The grass is brown
@@schrodingerscat3912 What grass?
Don't come to India, please. Everyone is trying to get out of here. Go to some other country in Asia.
Anyone who can get out of the UK should. I’m advocating my adult children leave and work for themselves. I was born and bred here and I detest it.
I’m 73 years old and stuck here. I work with many colleagues from Poland, Romania, East Timor, Spain, Italy and India. Each one of them has home to go to and have choice. I am an Englishman and stuck in this country. I have worked hard all my life. I still work full time as a multi-skilled engineer and pay my taxes (since 1966). If you are young just do it and move to other more progressive countries. The UK is in its death throes. Good luck and best wishes….
You're working at the age of 73 by choice or by necessity? (if you don't mind me asking)
@@zeberzeleniev yh exactly, think it's weird. Shouldn't he be retired and receiving pensions? 🤷♀️
@@zeberzeleniev Both. I do still need the money (midlife divorces etc) and I still wish to play my part in society. I did have my main pension ‘stolen’ by an American business who declared bankruptcy. Fortunately the Pension Protection Fund grabbed what the could and I get the princely sum of £42 per month. HMRC tax me on this of course. I do enjoy working as well.
@@arthurdixon5890 I am 50 years old, am I too old to move?
@@dlb9283 We are stuck here. We can see how standards have fallen. Are powerless to do anything. Not good…
Left UK in 2005, never looked back, best thing I ever did.
Just out of curiosity, where do you live now?
@@nomad5299 Australia mate.
@@vfury9686why most choose Australia u think
You got there before it all started falling apart. The uncontrolled immigration (600k this year) is pushing down wages and pushing up housing costs. Australia is the not the country i was in 2005. My wife is Australian. We've been in Australia for two years and whilst it has its benefits, people look at Australia with Rose tinted glasses. The people saying how great Australia is bought property when it was cheap and rode the wave. Standards of living for the young in Australia is dropping like a stone and there aren't many opportunities.
So why are you listening to a UK radio station?
For anybody in the UK listening to this. I grew up in the UK. I remembe struggling to make ends meat. It was awful. I never felt safe, the government was always shafting me. I could never find a job.
I moved to australia 10 years ago. What a difference. Im on $200k per yearz own a house and can afford to save for my kids future.
England is ran by an eliteist few who own everything. They have no desire to help the population. Get out whilst you can
You are 100% right
What do you do sir? I have a PhD in Fluid Mechanics and 48k is the best I can get here. Thinking of Australia or US
@@joetheboy04hydraulic technician here in Australia and I earn 85k a year at 26
One of the problems is that these older people are unwilling to step down from the top jobs and top positions in government. They want to keep making more and more money instead of opening up opportunities for the younger generations, even though they have already made enough money to retire happily. It's greed.
But they love their job. People go crazy in retirement
@@michaelsrowland That's the problem, that they love their jobs and won't let the new people advance because they're sitting at the top positions, sometimes literally sitting in those positions.
Rubbish. I am 60, love the work I do and no way am I going on the scrap heap yet. And I love the money too, it is great to be solvent when I was skint most of my life and it took me until age 50 to earn enough decent money to live a good life so I wont give it up yet. Retirement is overrated.
They stay because they love the control lots are narc boomers
Correct, the thing is you shouldn't be in it for the money and that's half the problem.
To be honest when I visit most city centres in the UK it looks like I'm in a foreign country anyway.
@@tensaijuusan4653 bro, now we know the problem. What's the solution?
For a start, how do we neuter the pernicious arabic i-virus mental disease?
@@gazwa-e-islam2716looks you have an issue with Arabs.
UK is a cautionary tale of a place that acumullated great wealth through exploitantion, managed it poorly and now is fucked.
@@thebeast09876 Everyone has
@@viktorhorvath6879 Not me and I'm not an Arab 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm a young engineer (late 20s) and already plan to move abroad when I have saved up enough.
I can live without many of the comforts of modern life, but any sort of independent life is now becoming increasingly possible in the UK. Why struggle for 40years to afford a house, when I can do it in 10? UK pay is also very low for most engineering roles, compared to the rest of the world.
It's not only about living costs - we are becoming a uni-party run, authoritarian surveillance state, but without the benefits usually associated with this. Also, the UK is incredibly anti-family at the moment - if I ever have children, they will never go to a state or public school in the UK.
Canada, Australia, and New Zealand are off the list though.
Bulgaria Vietnam Mongolia all offer better than anything in the toilet that is now the UK.
Couldn’t agree more. Even as a dual-national English-Kiwi, the thought of being in either Aus or NZ after the horrific, authoritarian state actions of both governments, sends chills down my spine.
These countries are having major housing issues, plus they are becoming authoritarian states.
US, UK, Aus, NZ are all authoritarian states masquerading as democracy.
@ic7481 - rarely hear an opinion as honest as yours …I thought I was the only one who saw the rot in Australia, Canada and NZ - I’m an Aussie who moved to the US. The States has its faults but if you’re skilled/well qualified and are a permanent resident (green card holder) or citizen it’s a fantastic place to be because your skills are well compensated …I’ve already commented on this video so won’t repeat all that here. Suffice to say my partner and I happily left our nursing and tech management jobs and an annual combined income of Au$300,000 to permanently move to the US this year. I chose the US over Europe, Canada, NZ, the UAE, the UK and Singapore for our long term move. If we don’t like it here, we’ll move back to Australia or NZ with our savings else we’ll upgrade our US PRs to citizenships and stay here.
I was 17 when the '08 recession hit (32 now), and I have never known a life in the UK when there wasn't a discussion about how things are falling apart and how our quality of life seems to decline each year. I'd love to move to another country where things might seem a little more hopeful, but I'm surprised no one has mentioned Brexit. Thanks to Brexit, my chances of moving somewhere in the EU are slim. Countries in Asia or the US have strict migration polices. Either way, I do hope to move abroad at some point, I'll just have to ignore the bleak mood of the UK until I do.
Im 25 and honestly if i hear the NHS is in trouble one more time im gonna lose it
England is a joke and people born in 2000 or around it know
Ive even had some friends say screw it and are now working on a farm in Australia xD
This is much bigger than Brexit and everyone knows it.
@@levibull6063Australia is no better than the UK to live their government are even worse.
You are Brit, it is quite unlikely you will change. 😂
@@SW-fy8pqa massive one
As a middle-aged man born and bred in a former British Colony and has just moved to the UK for 2 years, I have to admit that the UK has stopped progressing like the other developed countries. If you look at most of the former British colonies, big or small, most of them are better developed than the UK themselves, both socially and economically.
The situations in the UK are truly worry and I might advise my children to seriously consider moving away after graduation.
I'm 41, if I had the opportunity I'd get out of here as fast as I possibly could. The UK is a dumping ground and it's getting worse year on year. My mum and my sister got out years ago. Unfortunately I'm trapped for the foreseeable future.
Your comment is painfully relatable,
But unless you have the qualifications or money in the bank not much will change moving to a new land ,
Shame we can't just form our own country or city state
Because you moan impotently on TH-cam instead of doing something constructive. I wish you’d leave.
Where do you go? Canada? Australia? The USA? I've been to Australia, twice and worked there. It's truly not what it's meant to be. If anything, if I had the money to retire at 40 I'd live in Northern Thailand or on the non-Islamic Indonesian islands (Bali) or S.East Asia in general. These places are truly blessed to avoid Western "culture (LGBT)".
@@frosty_soda yes but if you are living in Northern Ireland you will.probably be lining ( or dying ) in the middle of a civil war -Irish reunification is certainly.not going to be peaceful.And anyone who thinks otherwise us simply not living in the real world .
@@ronnieince4568They said Northern THAILAND 😄
The UK is shagged. I've been away in Aus for 4 years and coming back to this slow moving train wreck has solidified my stance. The state of immigration, brain drain, lack of work, the fact we are polluting our rivers with sewage, country sides full of trash, fly tipping its like no-one cares any more, no-one smiles at one another let alone speaks. What the hell. Makes me angry as I love my family and friends but the quality of life in Aus, even if its a bit expensive, is tenfold here and I'll be back as soon as I can get my next visa!
London at least is more expensive than Melbourne OR Sydney. People say Sydney is expensive (where I’m from), and it’s true, but London is quite simply on another level. Cost of housing/rent is stupid (especially for what you get). Eating out is often DOUBLE what you’d pay in Sydney (for similar quality), and don’t get me started about paying £3.80 for a coffee. It’s a joke. I’ve landed a good job here and will get good experience but I will NOT be staying here forever. In many ways 5 years here has been 5 years too many.
That’s without mentioning the beach or the weather. Many English are OBLIVIOUS as well. This place is dismal. They still think they live in a comparatively ‘good’ place. It’s laughable.
Same, leaving even to Canada has cured my depression
Lived in Gibraltar and Spain before moving back to the UK and can tell you that everywhere has its problems. It’s down to the individual to make change for the better.
He is VERY wrong about Canada. We currently have a housing and affordability crisis with an overabundance of foreign nationals who can't find housing.
Which is so odd considering how big Canada is.
@@stevenhenry5267 Someone has to build those homes for people to live in.
Yeah Canada house prices are actually worse than here. Both are bad@@benjamindorge5936
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It's deliberate. Flee Canada too
Socialism is taking over canada faster than ever
The vastly overpopulated United Kingdom is systematically being destroyed economically, environmentally, societally, morally, culturally and ethnically. Absolutely deplorable.
The same is happening in every western country, the media are a disgrace not highlighting this, bought and paid for traitors.
Deportations are essential. The Uk has been invaded for at least 50 years, people just fly in.
It's not overpopulated at all dude, doesn't mean we should accept hordes of unvetted immigrants who are openly seeking vengeance for perceived wrongs
Explain United Kingdom culture? Tea? Crumpets? What culture? Greece has culture. Spain has culture.
@@Itoshimifunny so much culture that they leave lol
i absolutely agree, unless you come from a wealthy family, you will not get anywhere here, the older generations have all the wealth and you wont even be able to buy a house
That sounds like the US. Lol
I'm an American and have loved the UK forever. But I would find it hard to live there long term. I did live there in the 90's. I found I made a lot less money and my expenses were a lot higher. I could not figure out how people could survive financially. You guys are welcome to come to the US. There is always a way if you don't give up.
Groucho Marks said "Go West Young man go West" a hundred years ago. Today he would say go East, the future is in Asia, the west is in massive decline.
Caused by Asians coming to it.
China is a dead country in the making, you sir, require more education on the matter. China has no innovation, it has banks that are state owned that have MASSIVE debts and more importantly the population is aging rapidly...the future may lie east, but its NOT China.
Asians won't accept a fraction of the immigration we've been forced to endure. No chance. No either will any other non-white country. Only we have been beaten and brainwashed to accept 'diversity'.
The only reason the West is in massive decline is all the people from the Middle East and the East, plus northern Africa are moving there.
The business of the West is WAR - The business of the East is BUSINESS
We are all buggered....everybody under the age of 100 should leave
It's not until you go abroad that you actually realize just how bad the UK really is.
Without anything to compare it to, you think it's not so bad.
When I was in Mexico with my gf (that's where she comes from) I couldn't comprehend how cheap the food, alcohol, petrol, cost of energy bills, cost of living, was.
You could literally buy food for less than £1 on the street. It was like going forward in time to the distant future.
When I showed her show much petrol costs in the UK (and converted it to pesos for her to understand) she flat out refused to believe me.
It wasn't until she arrived in the UK and saw everyone driving silly little hatchbacks to try and save on fuel costs that she believed what I was saying was true.
That's called a poor country mate. To you it was cheap, because to the Mexicans you are filthy rich.
Do they pay as good as in the UK or the income remains the same in Mexico?
Everyone is fleeing Mexico if they get a chance. Go figure.
I left UK in 2018 and I never had any regret. Above all now I see what's going on...Good luck to those ones that are stuck there...
I also left in 2008, greetings! :)
Really? Where did you move to? And what job sectors do you work in?
My uncle moved his family to the US when I was 11 (now 34) he ended up crawling back to the UK before the pandemic with his hopes and dreams crushed. His daughter also required brain surgery which she has in the UK because they couldn’t afford it in the US. If I had a choice I’d like to live in a hot climate i.e. Thailand, Brazil but with sufficient income to live comfortably.
Thailand and Brazil both have notoriously tight immigration policies. Many requirements must be met to be eligible for the Thailand Permanent Resident Visa, such as having held a Thailand Work Visa and Work Permit for a minimum of three years, along with an Employment-based Extension of Stay. Brazil is even harder. Unless you have dual citizenship and a valid passport from the country you intend on moving to it's not guaranteed you'll be able to live there, let alone get a work visa and permanent residency.
Governments will always prioritize their citizens first, meaning if you're a foreigner you will be regarded as a second class citizen. The only exception to this are highly skilled workers, celebrities and extremely wealthy individuals willing to invest large sums of money into a business in said country. For the majority of brits (especially those in their 20s and 30s) this is simply not the case. Not to mention the cultural and language barriers.
@@distantraveller9876 that is how countries should behave. They should prioritize their citizens. Unfortunately that is not how countries like the UK behave
One of my best friends was half Thai when I was growing up. He was an ultra-relaxed kind of guy and got on with everyone. It's that kind of place as I understand it.
I'm surprised you didn't consider Africa. I started a security business in Ghana 5 years ago and I make on the average £40,000 monthly with a huge posh house in one of the most sort after neighbourhoods
Yep, I am American and lived in Thailand for some time (my job is 100% remote). Currently in the US. For personal reasons. But when that is sorted out, I am considering moving to Thailand full time. You are correct in hinting at the fact that the U.S. has many of the same problems as the UK (although I have never been to Britain) especially when it comes to cost of living. Your best bet is to learn a skill which will enable you to work remote, then move to a country with a decent standard of living, and a low cost of living. Thailand, Mexico, Costa Rica, Panama, Turkey, Georgia, Bulgaria, and Romania are some of the places which come to mind.
I left the UK 18 years ago. Spent a few years in Scandinavia and finally settled in the USA for last 15 years. I doubled my salary going to Scandinavia compared to UK and whilst the cost of living was not less the standard of public services and housing affordability were much better. On moving to USA my salary was triple what I could get in UK with a very high standard of living with that spending power. I do still like the UK but the pay is atrocious apart from a few select professions.
Could I ask what industry you work in?
In the UK you basically have to launder money if you are poor
Sweden is very much like the UK, Stockholm is the gun capital of Europe. US have problems with people pouring in from the South. You need six figures salary to buy a house. It is the same in every part of the western world.
I received my U.K. passport 1 week back, getting the citizenship and passport was a 13 year long journey for me but seriously contemplating moving back to India in next 2 years.
He UK is going down because the economy is totally infected by rentierism. Every national asset from social housing, north sea oil, to major infrastructure and utilities has been asset stripped and rented back to us at extortionate rates. House price inflation has been insane! We now can't even pay enough tax to keep hobbled public services running. We have no industrial strategy, banks just finance property speculation, and investment banking akin to gambling. There is no desire for them to lend to business as is needed. Venture capital is only set up to get a start up to a size that it can be sold off to a competitor. And investors can take the cash and run, whilst avoiding most taxes. Rather than any strategy to nurture further growth. How many missed opportunities there must have been. The government will not object to any hostile take over. ARM the chip maker being a prime example. It was allowed to be taken over at a rock bottom price just after brexit when the pound fell of a cliff. It was literally the only tech crown jewel of a company in the whole of Europe! The interests of corrupt politicians and Spivs in the City of London will always come first. The few will continue to get rich of the backs of the many. Whilst producing little of value themselves. Eventually when the vast majority are made to be dirt poor. The UK will just be a petty little country with little to offer the world.
Brilliant comment
true...
England will always have the beatles though
A lot of truth in your post but this 'There is no desire for them to lend to business as is needed.' Right on the money. Bank lending to _non-financial_ businesses is less than 3%. Businesses that actually produce things and grow the economy.
Zero job security in Britain was what made me leave in the end.
Plus the corporate world is no longer a meritocracy.
I moved to Finland in February and now I have, England feels like 3rd world in places. The public facilities are way better, the welfare system is better, public housing is better and accessible for anyone earning under 100k, the place is way cleaner, it's way less populated, theres a lot more nature, there is nobody sleeping on the street, there is more financial support for entrepreneurs, there is more trust in the government. Honestly, I never wanted to leave because I was making good money in London, but the reality of long commutes on old public transport, the amount of wages that go towards rent and general cost of living, the population density just make it not worth the good pay.
@@vivian5361 I speak an okay amount, but not well enough to work in an exclusively Finnish speaking job. I'm currently doing a course with their employment office where you learn Finnish and prepare for work. The language is probably the hardest part, there are people on my course who have been in Finland for up to 5 years already and speak at the same level as me. Having said that, there are English speaking jobs and I have friends who decided to go straight into work and put less emphasising on learning the language.
It's unfortunate that teaching is a min wage profession in the UK. I once considered a 1 year working holiday in London (beautiful city, btw). But I did the maths and the maths told me to stay in Australia. When you pay teachers like McDonald workers, think about what this does to the next generation of children.
I left in 2021 , about to return. Leaving was an eye opener - we’ve been brought up in the UK with a view like developing countries are somehow beneath us but when I’ve worked in these countries - I see higher standards of living than London ! We need to do better. It also made me appreciate where I grew up in the UK and human rights we have.
UK started failing when they failed to defend the borders against islamic immigration. The forefathers fought tooth and nail against the turks and ottomans to defend the faith for good reasons. There are valid reasons why most non-oil producing muslim countries are in abject poverty. The faith ruins societies. And it has ruined London.
I left too, nearly 20yrs ago. I could see where the UK was going back then. You're right. People in the UK have no idea how much better the standard of living is in other parts of the EU for instance. More cohesion, respect of the community, better opportunities and a higher standard of living. It's a real eye opener when you move, but for the better. It's a shame how the UK has gone.
London is not nice. I would not leave my nice English village for anything.
@@Jf946_d Everywhere- British housing is like Communist Russia.
Yes we live an insular life in UK. travelling taught me so. We live in a bubble
Anyone under 30 should definitely go asap.
Been abroad for 15 years and have a great business. The issue I have with the UK is that if you fall off you aren’t far from living on the street. I lived in lots of countries in those 15 years and found there is always a way to get by that I can’t seem to find back home. I miss the culture a lot and hope to retire to the UK one day but I don’t think the UK is good for the young in regards opportunities.
I run my own business too and found it relatively easy getting into the US market, whereas the UK was beyond difficult for many years. There is ample opportunity in the US for people with businesses ideas-banks and investors are more willing to fund you than in the UK where nobody seems to understand that business is all about taking risks. The American culture is different in this regard and I'd say that despite its flaws, the American dream is real and still alive. Dubai has also impressed me a lot; business friendly, Tax-free, lovely friendly people everywhere, clean and most importantly safe! It's sad what the UK and in particular my home city of London has become.
10 years of cheap debt have cut off the lower classes, narrowed the true middle class and levelled up even more wealth into a select few hands... The UK invests in financial policy to avoid a social welfare bubble. Thats all folks
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The cost of basics like accommodation and transport are high in the UK.
Well that's cheered me up. I now know as a 57 year old that I am too old to look for work abroad. I already knew that finding work here is hard enough at 57, believe me. I can understand why young people may want to leave Britain and good luck to them if they do, it might even leave a gap in the market for a 57 year old Administrator with 30 years experience!!
There are plenty of unfilled £10.00 a hour jobs out there if you get that desperate.
That's why the government are letting in all the dinghy boys. Cheap labour to exploit.
I would be super happy if u get a job
More happy than ur entire generation.
@seanK3828 I have a British colleague that is still working and he found a job in Germany at the ripe old age of 65 due to his specific skill set, knowledge and experience, plus his passion to still continue to work. Good luck nevertheless!
They don't want employees who know what they are doing. Think about why that is and you find you start a long journey into re-educating yourself on what is really going on. Maybe try asking them this very question if you like. Watch them squirm. You find the paradoxes make them mental. On the one hand they will tell you they are a world leader and yet why would a world leader employ inexperience over experience?
@@Andrew-rc3vh bro they lack colonist money.. I don't think they can overcome their mentality of depending upon stolen money.
Mass immigration = lower wages =higher house prices = less services =more crime, etc, etc.
mathematically incorrect. cannot solve problems of economy or society by using one variable of mass immigration. Immigration is backbone for a economy who need to sustain its power and keep old capitalist wheel churning. :) to understand global economics- go and travel the world , no need for degree, enjoy and meet people and after many years, you will understand automatically , and better than the books that they teach in the school.
Spot on
Immigration is not the route of all our problems get your head out of your ass
40% of Muslims don't work. There are over 4 million of them in the uk
Immigrants don't choose to pay themself lower wages do they ? - -blame BRITISH EMPLOYERS I'd say - - at the same time lower wages's benefit is that we pay less ( or should) for food and other aspect of rthe economy
Ten years ago when asked economist Mark Blyth when asked what should people in the U.K. do, he said “leave”
Last year, at 68 I left the U.K. permanently.
This guy says we have our freedoms is he kidding me you can get locked up for posting on social media if you OFFEND someone's feelings
Let’s be honest here, you’d want me arrested if I said “white Christian’s and Catholics are the most barbaric group of people on earth.” I’m not lying though
Coronation arrests - anyone? Scandalous and very revealing no matter how much or little you support the institution.
Speaking from experience .
Britain has more freedom of expression than Russia, china and North Korea .
That's it.
I feel persecuted for being a human in this country ,absolutely hate it here , I need the money , but if people can do it with little money so can I.
I'm leaving for Australia asap. Can't wait to leave! Much higher standard of living and a lovely climate especially Adelaide, where I will settle.
The worst part is that there are huge waiting lists for the NHS but as soon as you go private you get treated within the same week. It’s such a ridiculous divide. Doctors don’t want to work for the NHS and services get more money when dealing with health insurance groups. The whole system is setup to fail like this. Im 32 and seriously considering the fact I have wasted my time building a life in the UK when countries like Japan are struggling and in need of more manpower.
I’m 48 and I’ve been considering it very seriously in this last year. Our leaders are giving the nation away.
The English have no nation now.
Not giving but given away.
British as a race is not worth saving - Jack Straw
I turn 48 tomorrow and left the UK in 2015.
Apparently the corporate world didn't want my skills. Great. Set up my own business in central Europe.
Envy of the world...... untill you get here and see the reality for yourself.
Spot on 👍
How its marketed by the toffs
He's probably from a wealthy background. The rich in the UK are richer than ever. It's just the rest of us that aren't doing so well.
Lived throughout the Gulf states and initially in Italy , to retire I returned to the UK however I’m so pleased that I worked overseas . In the UK we suffer huge taxes , income tax , council tax , VAT , Road Tax, TV Tax , Inheritance Tax , Tax on sale of your house , Tax on interest on your savings , tax on your investments. The return on your tax payments are insignificant we have problems in society or with infrastructure.
Well someone has to pay for the lazy in the uk you don’t pay for the lazy in the gulf if you don’t work there you get kicked out or you starve in the uk the so called starving are fat obese and we pay for them to eat Mac da rather than cook.
I think all those taxes occur in Italy
The problem is not tax. Scandanavian countries have really high taxes but they use the money wisely and actually invest back into the country.
@@aries6776 they also don’t have half the country taking out and are not lazy like the uk.
Our local council just voted to close 39 libraries and leisure facilities today. We're not stagnating, we're literally going backwards with no hope in sight.
Looks like it's trying to avoid the same bankrupting fate of Birmingham and Nottingham
He's right, I moved here from Poland to make more money and educate myself. Still salaries are higher and the UK has more opportunities. But the NHS is so bad, doctors are ridiculous, I'm getting ill more often, housing is more expensive. And I really like the UK, but idk if I'll stay here longer than a couple more years.
My daughter is a vet nurse and her husband is a vet surgeon. As much as I would miss them if they left the country I often ask them why they stay here when they have the qualifications to move abroad, but I’m told that the UK pays vet surgeons higher salaries than most other countries.
That's the fallacy that the economist here is pointing out. Modern Britain is no longer about how much you earn, it's about how much you have left from it. You can move abroad and earn less but live better on the basis that the cost of living and taxation is much much lower elsewhere and quality of life (even weather) is also better. There are countries in Asia for exmaple where you can live like you earn £100k on a salary of £25k per year. The window is closing however as one thing the economist doesn't mention is the trend of the weakening pound on international markets meaning it doesn't buy as much of any foreign currency than it used to, so if people are going to move they need to do it soon. People also need think wider and not just target western English speaking countries because they are just more of the same.
That's the trouble, you may earn more here but the government steals more off you too. So you are no better off. Plus prices in the UK are higher then others. But they may also be thinking of you, they don't want to leave you as you get older.
@@DeeZire The way you have explained it makes good sense 👍🏼
@@marksapollo agreed, the Government definitely steals more from us. It’s infuriating 😡
My daughter is a vet surgeon she can t even get a job as a nurse in the vet world .time to exit this shite hole.
As soon as he suggested Canada he lost all credibility.
That is exactly what I thought. My sister lives out there and gives me all the news. She is Canadian all her children are struggling with jobs and housing. Plus it is so damn cold.
Canada doesn't accept white, middle-aged Englishmen/women.
Britain is the envy of the world? Not anywhere I´ve lived
I've advised my daughter to leave the UK. The future prospects for young British people has been taken from them by Woke ideology and mass immigration. All the points covered in this video are correct. As a 71 year old I feel trapped on a country which no longer resembles the one I was born in and I don't want my daughter to be be subjected to the difficulties and the danger of living in this dystopian version of the UK where indigenous British are now less than second class citizens.
I lived 20 years in the UK and went back to Germany a few years ago.
The future prospects for young British people has been taken by people who were already wealthy or who knew how to play this 2 class system.
The thing is people like you were always second class to the upper class gentry. They also conveniently educated you to blame migration.
All your white in the UK are pushing out mix race kids with blacks you hate no one forced them to mix
No they aren't, stop with the racist nonsense. Typical bigot daily fail mindset.
Yer but that economist is largely talking out of his hat. Things aren't any better in the other countries he mentioned. They're actually much worse in America and Canada, and Australia isn't much better than the UK. Basically, the entire West has gone down the toilet for young people. Because the entire West was affected by the 2008 Great Recession and all Western countries are signed up to the globalist and woke movement to varying degrees and follow similar political policies which negatively impact the young and their futures especially.
Throughout the entire Western World, millennials and Gen Z are going to be the first generations in a hundred years who end up worse off than their parents did.
Your comment indicates you’re a raging bigot who doesn’t understand why the UK economy is in trouble.
Idk why ppl aren’t realizing that this is an international problem. International. We are all facing it everywhere. Lol leave and go where? 😂😂😭
An underrated comment.
Get a remote job that pays in GBP and move somewhere with lower cost of living and nicer weather. There are lots of them.
I think some of us do, but it still stands to reason that economically the UK is doing a lot worse than comparative countries, unless you fall for government propaganda.
Spot on! There are many people who thrive here and there are homeless in states...we have to accept responsibility and do something about it than running around.
Corporations are the real problem.
It is true that a very large part of the problem is the intergenerational wealth divide, which is basically an apartheid. Most of the over-65s retired in their mid-50s on gold plated pensions, houses all paid off with a second one to let out. Without other countries from which to draw wealth, unlike during the days of empire, the Boomer generation is in effect feeding upon it's own young. The young may think they're going to inherit their way out of poverty but that's wishful thinking in many cases . Any society which sacrifices its own young is doomed to destruction.
Inheritance tax is extremely high in UK! Tax-free threshold is £325,000 and after that is 40% for the rest of it! In London not many houses are below £325,000!
"Most people retired over 50 retired on gold plated pensions"
Who told you that,it's rubbish.Most older people haven't got Gold Plated pensions,and will have to work into thier 70's or live off a state pension.
Where did you read that?
You have been indoctrinated by the press!
The politics of envy.
"Boomer generation feeding off the young" You are deluded.
@@s._3560 We don't need to just reduce tax a bit for the already wealthy to solve our social problems. We need to think more radically than that. We actually need to massively increase regulation if not suspension of the market and restrict second home ownership for both BTL and personal indulgence.
Yes western society is basically a Ponzi scheme getting worse and worse for each generation.
I look at the youngsters coming out of uni now.
They have huge debts, on way worse repayment terms, 86% of which will never fully pay them off. With ever increasing house prices. Worsening pension terms, and worsening services like the nhs.
Doing a trade is far smarter than 99% of university courses now in my opinion.
Some people in the comments are overly negative about the living conditions in the UK, I live in a small shabby flat in London paying £1,900 per month to a penny pinching landlord, just across the road from me is a notorious crime infested council estate offering action packed entertainment every other night, my local high street scattered with rough sleepers, beggars, addicts, hustlers and traffic wardens, numerous shops closed and out of business, takes me almost an hour to drive 4 miles to work everyday (and an hour back), underpaid and undervalued at work, waited 5 months to see an ENT doctor. I mean, what's not to like?
I left the UK when I was 30 because of the conditions in the country. Now I own my own home, none of my UK friends have, and I have a good paid job none of these would have been possible in the UK.
Sorry but the UK has a huge issue with social mobility it does not exist.
Pay is not the only factor.
My brother moved to Oz, paid twice as much, and expenses twice as much, in particular rent.
So, only looking at one value on paper is not a great argument.
Spot on.
Still not stopping British people moving to Australia
@@run2cat4run Just as not stopping people moving to the UK.
Compare the prices yourself from their Coles and Woolworth online. It isn't cheaper than UK with the poor Aussie dollar exchange rate of late. Small town like Alice Springs aren't necessarily cheaper. It can cost more to get produce to a small town and the lack of choice of shops and facilities means you are held hostage by their prices there. It will be a terribly isolated and boring lifestyle, why go there when you can do the same living in Outer Hebrides!
Well I earn $200k a year driving a truck in Oz. There are a lot more opportunities for working class people to earn decent money here. Yes it isn't all unicorns and rainbows but you also do not get the swathes of grim poverty like in the UK - all those towns full of grey skinned, poorly nourished shell suits you get all over the UK. Until about 2008 and the financial crisis I reckon it was six of one half a dozen of the other between the UK and Oz but since then the UK has deteriorated while Australia has remained relatively stable.
Poland is the way doing what the people won't not what corrupt governments and elites won't
Unfortunately we have one million Polish here. They should go home.
Not an example to follow its basically how the people bypass the insane country systems to still thrive but we also have different standards.
Italy is good as well
Poland sent the UK it's riff raff, it's amazing the government allowed ex commies into the UK to take British Jobs.
And yet its a part of EU
TLDR: Anyone under 50 should leave UK because the empire has collapsed and opportunities have left, and whatever left are leaving because of capitalistic greed.
>and whatever left are leaving because of capitalistic greed.
Weird how the decline started when Blair irreversibly opened the border.
Which is it lefty? you worship mass immigration of dossers and cheap labour, or you don't?
Too much rain, grey skies. The lack of sunshine can negatively affect mood!
American here. I myself am planning on living outside of the U.S. in a country with a higher standard of living, with a lower cost of living. This is why I got into tech, where I can work remote from anywhere in the world.
So when this guy says that it is better in the US, than in the UK, I scratch my head a little. No doubt, the situation in the UK might be worse. But here in the US, inflation and cost of living are at an all-time high. Housing has never been more unaffordable. Most Americans live paycheck-to-paycheck. I don’t know much about Australia, but Canadians are in an even worse situation than us. It is generally more expensive there, while the salaries are lower. I interact with a lot of people in Canada as part of my job.
So by leaving the UK to Canada or the US, it won’t be as much of an improvement. Even if you have your immigration paperwork all sorted out, which is extremely difficult here in the US.
Thanks for giving a realistic view
you are forgetting one fact...the grass is greener on the other side! :)
You can move to West Virginia or Maine and find the housing really affordable there. Why leave a country which has the hottest economy on the planet and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. Don't be stupid and stay in the US. It is the most secure country on the planet by far in all aspects. This is coming from an Indian migrant who has stayed in 6 countries in the last 10 years including the USA. I found the USA way better than everyone else.
@@AjayTiwari-en9nz Don’t get me wrong, I still plan on buying investment property in the U.S. But living here - no thank you. The thing is, my dollar goes further in other countries, with comparable standards of living, better services, and less crime.
In countries in Eastern Europe, Southeast Asia, and places like the UAE, I don’t have to look over my shoulder when using an ATM past 9pm. I don’t see homelessness. Sure, WV and ME have nice nature. I have been to both places. But there is nothing to do there. I prefer to live in or near a big city. With events, malls, entertainment, not to mention public transportation, etc. You can’t safely live in a major U.S. city. Just look at New York and LA. Then go to Bangkok, Dubai, Moscow, or Kuala Lumpur. The difference is night and day. At the same time, my expenses will be less in those places, than in ME or WV, with a better quality of life.
In essence, money is a part of it, but crime and societal issues play a major role as well. Since I work in tech, I make the same amount no matter where I live.
P.S. I myself am an immigrant from Eastern Europe.
@@normabates1925 Depends on where you are in the US - it is a huge country. The videos you are seeing are from the western states. Everything between Dallas and the Pacific Coast is sparsely populated. If you live in Salt Lake City, the closest big city (Las Vegas) is a 6 hour drive. And Las Vegas isn’t even that big. But Everything east of the Mississippi is pretty much like the US. Especially the Northeast between Richmond, VA and Boston, MA.
As far as permits go, depends on the locality. If you live in the SF Bay Area, good luck getting a permit to build anything. Similar situation in most metro Areas. But if you live in the middle of nowhere Wyoming, it is fairly easy to get a building permit. But as a general rule, you need a permit to build.
Concerning wondering up a mountain, if it is a national forest, that is public land, so you are free to do so. Most of it is west of Texas. But east of that, it is mostly private land, with small park and national forest areas. But when hiking through the wilderness out west, you need to watch out for grizzly bears and mountain lions. Heck, even in the east. I wouldn’t recommend hiking there without some adequate protection (I would recommend a 44 Magnum revolver). Heck, you encounter dangerous wildlife in the east as well. My wife and I encountered a black bear last weekend when hiking in a state park in the smoky mountains.
He has a point but America????
Canada???
Most EU nations are basket cases too.
The UK isn't that bad in comparison to many of these nations, but as much as enjoy visiting the US, there's really no way I'd live there.
What EU nations are basket cases?...
IMO the West is dying and none of the governments seem to have a clue how to fix it.
@@belladonna6624
The west needs to rejuvenate its population. More babies are needed...
@@belladonna6624 Thats because most governments have no clue what the West or western culture is, very actually do.
@@guleiro pretty much all of them.
Yep, I saw the writing on the wall in 2008 when the GB government bailed out the banks as thanks for crashing the economy. I moved to the EU where I have a thriving business, excellent healthcare and public services and fantastic quality of life. I do miss home but every time I visit I see such aggression and stagnation. Greed, ignorance and corruption have wrecked the country.
I miss nothing about the UK. Haven't been back since emigrating in 2015.
I enjoyed the academic opportunities back in the 90s and early 00s and that's it.
From USA and just want to say you guys have an amazing country. It shouldn’t and won’t ever be given up on. I will say it’s good to self criticize and to get better. Leave your pride and you ego and if other countries are doing things that work, try it! You guys need to evolve but you guys have something so amazing. This is okay guys, it’s growing pains.
The problem with the UK is that culturally, socially, economically and demographically, which is the key element, has been hollowed out. Society is divided, communities completely transformed and not for the better, lack of trust, lack of shared identity and confidence in upholding its culture (cue Lefties ‘what culture!’ - exactly my point) due to being demoralised and faced with such massive change within a short period of time. It’s a damn shame. It was one of the best countries to live in for a long time. I’d say Blair is responsible for tipping the scales and putting the UK on a trajectory that it will unlikely rebound from. I’m a Brit and live in Japan and have done for a decade. Life is great here, but home is home and I would love to return to the UK but unfortunately it’s not the place I remember it to be just 20-25 years ago. It’s grim viewing but better to do so from a safe distance.
@@_lmagine What would you say are the biggest changes in the last 3-4 years?
@@_lmagine It’s quite sad reading it put by someone else in a way that echoes my experience and it also seems to confirm to me that it isn’t just my perception. I experienced everything you said - however, if I go to the countryside it is still the England of old. Given the population of native Brits is around 80% overall, is there still some hope there, I mean, to remain as the pre-eminent culture and people of society?
Blair lol? It began with Thatcher. Stop building social housing and give everyone the dream of owning their own home. Now the young can't afford to live anywhere. This is the reality of becoming rich from owning your own home whilst not building anymore.
@@TheFragilityOfIdeas look at the population demographics of 18-25 and in schools. this country is already pakistan.
@@davestevenson9080Based. UK will be renamed as United Kaliphate.
Look at London and other Cites, Ethnic people already out number British White. Look at some MP's they would never have got to that position if it was not for the Ethnic majority.. the Mayor of London, Just imagine in say another 20 years.. You will have a Ethnic Government running the UK.. They have it all planned out..Will this be a Country that British Whites want to live in, is this what you want for your Children. We the British White will be the second glass Citizen if you choose to stay in the UK..!!
You suggest this is the future ...... actually it's the PRESENT!
Despite the fact that I am Indian, I firmly believe that in order to preserve the most compassionate civilizations and beautiful nations of Europe, it is vital to get rid of animals like immigrants, bogus asylum seekers, and students. A public movement should be started right once asking that everyone be deported within a short period of time with a strong warning that everyone found in the country after the deadline will be deported from vessels to unidentified places. If it is not done on a war basis, practically all of these nations will find themselves living as slaves under the twisted sharia rule, with their women being trained as prostitutes by the barbarians who view every non-Muslim woman as someone to be raped, no matter of what age.
And what … most of those ethnics actually work and contribute to the economy
@@scottishbanjo exactly, thank you. Many of these groups work SKILLED jobs, let me add, because the ethnic groups outperform them in education too. 36.8% of London is white- that’s still way higher than any other ethnic group, so OP needs to stop with the over exaggerated doomsday literature and get into the mentality of skilling him/herself with the tools needed for the world’s changing economic landscape. If they want their children to compete with the children of minorities for the best things in life, they need to teach their children the value of education, and I don’t just mean the traditional type either. They’ve failed their younger generations massively and now they have the shameless effrontery to talk of leaving the mess unaddressed by decades of eroding mores and virtue, for their children to figure out and clean up? They don’t need to go anywhere, period.
Correct. It’s all a plan to destroy white countries. Disgusting.
You can't fix problems with quitting. Once they realise how easily they can discourage you, they will use the same trick everywhere you go. And then, they will just buy everything you leave behind at a reduced price.
The moment there's no place to go to avoid this madness, you will fall straight into their baskets.
There is a reason we don't push languages... This allows flight risk & there are debts to pay...
Lost me when he said America and canada.
Yep, I too suddenly became equally sceptical at that point.
America is a very bad place to be poor.. but a good place to go if you have skills.. they pay for them.
@@joecater894if you aren't murdered first
@@joecater894and full of guns
You Brits make me laugh always thinking America is just about guns most people that live here never encounter a shooting or ever seen a gun 😂😂 what a big stereotype you guys have on Americans so sad 😂. We make more money than Brits, better and affordable homes, faster health care services even though we pay out of our pocket we still prevail over the uk should I go on ???
After living abroad for quite a while and moving back to the UK recently, this conversation fascinates me. I preferred living abroad (specifically Croatia and Australia) as I was, in general, having a much better quality of life but I prefer working here in the UK (we are quite industrious!). I don't earn as good in the UK as I would in Cro or Aus but as my family are here, I have the support I need. It's tough to say what's best but I would most probably have stayed in Croatia quite happily if my family was also there.
Did you need to know how to speak Croatian to work?
@@George-bi8sj depends on the company. Big globals all do business in English so no problems there. And most people in cities like Zagreb and Split speak English too. I would advise learning the language though - it's useful when you're dealing with smaller businesses (postman, mechanics, plumbers etc etc) and nice to banter with locals in the boozer haha
'but I prefer working here in the UK (we are quite industrious!)' and this is key for me. Britain have been doing this since the industrial revolution. Undervaluing and underpaying it's workforce while those at the top make bigger profits. This is why so many of our top minds leave. Doctors, engineers, scientists.
@@aries6776 British workers are valued now due to Brexit. We are in demand. It`s nice working in the UK. We have Tea breaks unlike China and the rest of the slave nations.
attacking pensioners again. this demographic paid into the system. they have paid for what they are getting today.
They do this because they consider pensioners easy targets.
And had eye watering mortgage interest rates for years and years. They really earned their homes 20% over.
As a 19yr old, I’ve said this since I was 10. I’m (sadly) looking forwards to leaving.
I'm 31, i left 3 years ago after living here all my life. I was just about to buy a house until i was made redundant. I used those savings to travel 6 continents. I now live between portugal and Southeast asia. Best decision i ever made. Every time i come back to visit friends and family, im always reminded of why i left. They are always stressed our with money and work here.
Left the uk at 30 should have done it straight after university , very sad the state of the Uk , but its a big wide world out there where you can have a fabulous life in a better climate where you will be taxed less able to save more and get better health services and education for children you just need to be courageous .
Im 60 and this country has changed beyond recognition,but sadly our quality of life and living standards have declined immeasurably throw in political correctness
Wokeism and illegal immigration,that we are powerless to stop,feel sorry for young people going forward
Right wing nonsense. Has absolutely nothing at all to do with itm
Found the dumb brexiteer who's a few years away from death and thinks all their problems are caused by immigrants.
It's young people that promote it. They are the ones that will attack you for this comment. Let them reap what they sow
@@flyj5820how are young people promoting this? This country is failing and the young people are the hardest hit. No one wants to work for nothing but death, taxes and struggle. The older generation can’t even fathom the opportunities they would’ve had compared those that are available now. Single young people can’t even afford the basics. Food, rent and bills. There’s is no longer any hope in the UK and I hope this country burns to the ground.
Sigh. You do know that ignorance and bigotry will never make you happy.
America and Canada are no longer as popular or as good an option as before. America’s an empire in rapid decline, with and escalation in crime. Canadians are feeling the economic crisis too, along with many social problems. I’d say heading east is the best choice.
Totally agree. Western democracies are actually just oligarchies. The political system allowing party donations has ruined everything as the corporations and rich influence policy so they keep their wealth.
We're over 50 and we left. The political class has destroyed the country.
REVOLUTION!
Wages are horrific. I know of someone doing a PhD in London with a pay of 19-21k pounds. That is barely a living wage, particularly in a city like london. If this is the way the UK treats high skilled individuals good luck to the UK. ETH in switzerland for instance easily pays 70-85k euro in comparison for a PhD depending on the specialization. Oh and the tax rate in switzerland is also far far lower... standard of living is significantly better too (lived there for 6 months).
Yeah but becoming a Swiss citizen is near impossible.
@@stevo728822 I personally know many individuals who are now living full time in switzerland and no issues. Used to study at ETH in zurich - as long as you have skills and full time job it's not a big deal not being a citizen. And yes it takes 10 years but anyone can do it if they want... Also it is an example of the difference between the UK and other european countries. The netherlands where I live gives salaries of 35-40k a year for a Phd. Living expenses are also far cheaper here than in London so your relative income / savings are far higher.
@@stevo728822 If you have a PhD you don't need to become a citizen, they'll pay you very well to live there.
... don't forget that with big cash comes slavery. I was a corporate slave at a large FTSE100 pharmaco.
Yes, I earned the big bucks, but it was hell on earth. Emigrated to central Europe before Brexit. Run own business. No regrets.
The government's of most of the developed world have completely disregarded the responsibility they have to the next generation. They have priced them out of the housing market and also have decided to prioritise foreigners in that regard.
All part of the penmy chew plans.
And leaving the single market didn’t help
How were foreigners prioritised?...
@@guleiro in terms of emergency accommodation
@@run2cat4run completely irrelevant.
It isn't Britain, it's the British. Anybody who can read a map already left.
To just up-sticks and move overseas is a step too far for most people. They dream of it perhaps but never act and it's even more daunting as you get older. There are enough people in the UK who are extremely concerned about the way the country is being governed and eventually they will make their voices heard.
It’s why I’m grateful to not be a home owner yet (I mean I couldn’t anyway with these house prices), it means I don’t have to much stuff to ship abroad.
I left for Spain in 1997 when I married a Spanish lady. I was 22 years old, no money, no job. Things went well, I'm totally fluent now in Spanish, it's almost as good as my English. My three children are bilingual. I have gone back in the Summer many times, and I love the English countryside. However, I wouldn't live in England for a million pounds. It's a failed state. The cities have been invaded by foreigners, the soul of the nation has been destroyed.
was it okay for u britain colonised these so called foreign countries for decades and centuries and looted them and amassed all that wealth...why you think all these foreign countries once colony of Britain stays poor still...so now you have problems those problems coming to UK.. right? hilarious..
"The cities have been invaded by foreigners". Exactly the same in Spain. Invaded by foreigners like you.
This. I was an ex-pat before finally emigrating to central Europe in 2015.
People cannot comprehend that the quality of life here is orders of magnitude higher than in the UK where I was a manager at a FTSE100.
The west is done for.
Good it needs to fall.
@@kevbillows7113 The post world war 2 neo liberalism which has plauged the western mind for 70+ years needs to fall. Then we can have a revival
@@kevbillows7113Why
@@kevbillows7113 What an odd thing to say. I wouldn't wish for the decline of any society anywhere in the world. I'd just want them to get better.
@@kevbillows7113 ofc the fascist wants freedom to fail. ofc.