yes, but lighting and color grading just was so bad. Even playing in 4k, you clearly see all shadows and dark zones of the video footage fall apart. horrible to see.
Nate's One was like a "Soap opera"look and Landon's was cimematic style but it's too dark over all. It would be better make more contrast between dark and bright area.
landons one was too dark, but he did mention that they lost battery power for thee lights and that he himself thinks it was too dark. so I imagine he would brighten it up if he did it again
I liked Nate's cinematography and lighting, it had the more traditional style of fight scene editing and cinematograph, and also the sound design (the grunts were dope) I also liked how he got through the gimbal, because its not easy to shoot fights on an gimbal. Landon's had better music, and also a better story line, but the fact that it was so dark kinda made it feal a little bit too moody, I also enjoyed Landon's different shots. Props to you both! Overall I would say that nate won because of the fact that he got around the big barrier of having a gimbal, and also his insane sound design
I love all the healthy competition coming from this channel! Not only does it help the competitors learn and grow, but sharing it with us is extremely valuable as well. Thank you!!
Awesome work fellas! My take: the gimbal shots are great for pick up and catching great choreography of the fight. All too often things are too tight and you can’t tel what’s going on. On the flip side, it’s tough to get those close up impacts and reactions from afar. Essentially, you need to have both at your disposal. Fun video!!!!
Nate's video was solid, and he had a really hard disadvantage, but Landon absolutely killed it. Loved the gritty lighting - I think it's better with only kisses of light here and there. It looks awesome but also sells the fight more because you can't see everything super clearly. Looking forward to more Pro vs Pro vids!
I love this series! I kinda wish you guys would have brought them to a third party person and asked like “which would you buy?” Or “what do you think the handicap was?” Can’t wait to see more of this!
Both videos are great! I liked Nate’s lighting and sound effects and thought he did a good job with the gimbal. I liked Landon’s story better. I know this was mentioned in the video, but my biggest issue with Landon’s is it’s too dark, hard to see what is going on.
I was here before the first video was taken down and i bacame mad when it said "the user deleted the video" I am glad it came back Lemmi grab some popcorn
I loved Landon's video! It gave me all the feels. I do wish that it was a bit lighter but I understand how lights love to die at the worst times LOL. Both videos were amazing.
I was thinking that the shakiness on my videos were bad until now (after watching this video) thanks for doing this amazing job! Just make me realize that I need more experience (passed along with your teaching) than gears…! Thanks again!!
I prefer nates handheld film because the contexte of the story start with a run, he try to play with dark scene maybe a little bit noisy but it's more immersive and the song are very nice. Great job to you 2 and thanks for this new concept ! ^^
I really enjoyed the hand held, not just because it was handheld but all the elements really made it come together. Moody lighting, shaky, fast fight scene, music was on point! that video was great! An idea I have would be a beginner with all the gear vs pro with budget to low quality gear, but a corporate / talking head / informative style theme like real estate (uber boring) The is my meat and potatoes and i have the hardest time figuring out how to make it worth watching for the audience. Id like to think i have a grasp on how to work my gear and I don't think i have terrible gear but i would say the keeping engagement is really difficult for me.
Fight scenes must always be shot on zoom lens and handheld, the less clarity you have the better. I usually go in and out of clarity, but I love the 2nd video. Awesome video, love the lighting and everything. 👍🏻
I loved the London video - it feels like I'm in the movie. Precisely because of the vibrations it makes the video better. I would love for you to produce more videos of this style. Thank you
I'm going to give the point to Landon, principally for the storytelling. I loved the references to John Wick and Equalizer in Nates video, and the way he took advantage of the limitations of the gimbal and was able to show off the stunt choreography, but if someone wasn't familiar with those movies there wouldn't be much of a story. With Landon's video I felt much more connected to the protagonist, and the fear of being caught and beat up before the moment of "screw it, I'm done running and hiding!" and the score amplified that moment perfectly. Great job to both of you for creating good fight scenes in just an hour!
Tough one, I like both of them. The gimbal because it makes it easier to read the action and the handheld for the closeness to the action though with the very low lighting it's quite difficult to read it at times and I'm not sure who's punching who. So because of that one thing, I'm going with the gimbal.
Great video,Orbit shots with the gimbal would be more dramatic if shot from a lower angle.and A few speed ramps would have been great with the hand held
Do you guys do a lot of pre-planning before the shoot? Like the camera settings, light temperature, whether to use soft lights or hard lights? or do you guys wing it at the location?
I honestly think that nate's use of digital zooms were jarring, like they felt a little out of place. I liked the rest of it, but I prefer landon's version.
I think both gimbal and handheld carry different significance in terms of shooting an action scene. There are times when much handheld is needed and times too when gimbal is needed so they both good in their own ways and times... It's also best to use both gimbal and handheld when necessary You both did good...
london's video its was great and amazing but I dont like background music without music I thing was will be better but the shot and transition 👌👌 , and for Nate's video I think the sound effect was to much and hight sound, but the idea 💡 of the watch and senario its was great and zoom its great job,
I definitely think Landon's video was the better of the two. I noticed multiple people have made comments criticizing how dark Landon's video was and not liking all of the shadows, but personally I found that appealing. Maybe a little more light would have improved it, but I liked the feel of Landon's video more and definitely thought the camerawork complimented the action better, but that of course could be due to handheld vs gimbal.
I loved the Handheld Video, also the music added to the whole composition, was really nice touch and feel, and like a scene from a High Budget Film. The Gimbal had some nice shots, but it didnt add the kick and attitude that the handheld did . Good Job to Both! I love the handheld. Maybe handheld vs Gimbal on a wedding video next? :)
Great work on your end both of you,did an amazing work, wish i was part of the team. For this shoot i kinda vibe with the gimbal more but great work on the handheld too, thank you for this guys
It's a really close battle between the two of you. I prefer the handheld over the gimbal, as far as the shooting style goes, and you're right, that beginning shot where the dude is running, couldn't even tell. It was a pretty good disguise, kept steady enough, but I felt I was there, like a breathing pattern. Lighting wise, though, I think the scene was slightly too dark to really see some of the action. The gimbal shoot definitely had better lighting, and he really did an amazing job keeping it in the action, but I was missing that "being a witness in the moment" movement the handheld creates. I think the fight scenes should have an unsteady sort of movements to kind of represent the adrenaline, moving out of the way, dodging punches kind of moves. Either way, amazing work by both of you, considering the time-line you had to work with. There is people who definitely couldn't pull this off.
Amazing as always. I like the fight vibe that each if them delivered; I think they made the most of each technique, Landon’s video was like he said a little dark but his music, story and edit sold it for me ha.
For the blackmagic, the best results in low light are eighter 100 ISO or 1250. Becuse of the dual native ISO, you have more dinamic range in the shadows if you keep it low. Problem is, you get blown out practical lights.
The fight scene was really good in the first video(and those sound effects were excellent), but I've got a soft spot for action scenes set to music so I'm going to give it to the second video
I think Nate definitely deserves credit, the digital zooms and editing were crisp, and even though he got in the shadows, panning around the fight looked sick. However, the beep of the watch sounded way too crisp for the scene; realistically in a warehouse it would be quieter and with reverb. Landon's felt a lot more immersive, and definitely pulled off the shakycam underlit action movie look. It also told a much clearer story, and syncing cuts around the song was nice. In both cases however I thought the music was too loud and played for too much of the video, and that the audio would have been better with more ambience and use of silence. However, I'm more of an audio guy so I probably am nitpicking a bit, and the louder music covers up gaps in the sound design that come from the time constraints.
It was amazing output that came up from your hands.... Love those gimbal movement also love those handheld tight shots and composition man... The ways you use light was incredible... I feel I was like watching movie teaser 👍
Nate's looks like an important battle of an action movie. Landon's look like the main character is fighting against the bodyguards who were just about finishing their lunch in a factory. Both are great with different look and moment...
BMPCC6K image is so good compared to mirrorless. Just that alone was an advantage for a cinema-esque sequence lol. Great job by both, though. Fight scene on a gimbal seems incredibly hard
Landon just has a great way of storytelling. Loved the sequence.
But without backround music its better
I know
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Nate's video was alright, but Landon's was, dare I say on a whole another level.
exactly
The background music and the sound effects were so well added
yes, but lighting and color grading just was so bad. Even playing in 4k, you clearly see all shadows and dark zones of the video footage fall apart. horrible to see.
The opening yes, but I find the action in Landon's video crap though...
Nap
Nate's One was like a "Soap opera"look and Landon's was cimematic style but it's too dark over all. It would be better make more contrast between dark and bright area.
landons one was too dark, but he did mention that they lost battery power for thee lights and that he himself thinks it was too dark. so I imagine he would brighten it up if he did it again
cinematic is suppose ti be natural / dark . This is not iPhone videos . It was quality work
I liked Nate's cinematography and lighting, it had the more traditional style of fight scene editing and cinematograph, and also the sound design (the grunts were dope) I also liked how he got through the gimbal, because its not easy to shoot fights on an gimbal. Landon's had better music, and also a better story line, but the fact that it was so dark kinda made it feal a little bit too moody, I also enjoyed Landon's different shots. Props to you both! Overall I would say that nate won because of the fact that he got around the big barrier of having a gimbal, and also his insane sound design
I love video but Landon's video was too dark
Landon’s video was dark because the batteries on the lights were running out
Perfect song chosen by Landon btw '' run for your life '' by the siege. Loved it a lot.
Am I the only one who wants to see Parker go against Peter McKinnon? 😂😂
@PeterMcKinnon
This is a must!!!
no u r not
Feel like Parker would beat him. Not destroy him but beat him out in the end.
Now that'd be good content
I love all the healthy competition coming from this channel! Not only does it help the competitors learn and grow, but sharing it with us is extremely valuable as well. Thank you!!
These man's are on another level, they pay for ads and their ads are shown on their video.
Awesome work fellas! My take: the gimbal shots are great for pick up and catching great choreography of the fight. All too often things are too tight and you can’t tel what’s going on. On the flip side, it’s tough to get those close up impacts and reactions from afar. Essentially, you need to have both at your disposal. Fun video!!!!
London's feel like the avengers intro in the battle or something
Nate's video was solid, and he had a really hard disadvantage, but Landon absolutely killed it. Loved the gritty lighting - I think it's better with only kisses of light here and there. It looks awesome but also sells the fight more because you can't see everything super clearly. Looking forward to more Pro vs Pro vids!
I love this series! I kinda wish you guys would have brought them to a third party person and asked like “which would you buy?” Or “what do you think the handicap was?” Can’t wait to see more of this!
Both videos are great! I liked Nate’s lighting and sound effects and thought he did a good job with the gimbal. I liked Landon’s story better. I know this was mentioned in the video, but my biggest issue with Landon’s is it’s too dark, hard to see what is going on.
I just love how Landon is giving other cameras a shot and just using other camera systems in general
This was so sick. You guys have stepped up your videos more than I thought was possible! Love the chemistry between the guys too
These guys are going to be making a big splash in the future. cherish this moment, once they are there, you'll never see their tutorial so easily.
I was here before the first video was taken down and i bacame mad when it said "the user deleted the video"
I am glad it came back
Lemmi grab some popcorn
Same situation 😂
@BestRolf copyright issues may be
Same. I waited on the channel for like an hour after that.
Thank you for your generosity in putting this together. And yes, the handheld worked best in this situation!
Your name officially went from Landon BTW to Landon FTW 🏆
LMFAO
I was actually wondering why I hadn't seen this video idea in your channel the other day and you made it at last.
I loved Landon's video! It gave me all the feels. I do wish that it was a bit lighter but I understand how lights love to die at the worst times LOL. Both videos were amazing.
I was thinking that the shakiness on my videos were bad until now (after watching this video) thanks for doing this amazing job! Just make me realize that I need more experience (passed along with your teaching) than gears…! Thanks again!!
These challenges are super helpful and educational! Keep it up 👍😊
Landon’s video felt like the character introduction/establishment in a super hero movie! 👌 Nate’s was great too tho(loved the lighting)
Nates lightning is better and overall fight scene a like better, Landons story is better on the beginning.
Agree to all, L story better, but ending was so-so. And N fight is way better even on gimbal.
This youtube video has a better quality then most commercials :D
Big fan of this series. I like the explanations behind the cinematography.
I prefer nates handheld film because the contexte of the story start with a run, he try to play with dark scene maybe a little bit noisy but it's more immersive and the song are very nice. Great job to you 2 and thanks for this new concept ! ^^
I really enjoyed the hand held, not just because it was handheld but all the elements really made it come together. Moody lighting, shaky, fast fight scene, music was on point! that video was great! An idea I have would be a beginner with all the gear vs pro with budget to low quality gear, but a corporate / talking head / informative style theme like real estate (uber boring) The is my meat and potatoes and i have the hardest time figuring out how to make it worth watching for the audience. Id like to think i have a grasp on how to work my gear and I don't think i have terrible gear but i would say the keeping engagement is really difficult for me.
Hand Held for sure. Loved the lighting that same video as well.
Fight scenes must always be shot on zoom lens and handheld, the less clarity you have the better. I usually go in and out of clarity, but I love the 2nd video. Awesome video, love the lighting and everything. 👍🏻
Guys you reaaly rock! I'm just amazed on the work you do here.
Landon nailed it...music choice got me amped from the jump ...💪🏽
these guys are on another level!!!! I just love this channel's content
I like Nate's vid but the first 3 seconds of Landon's were just wow - the music, the story before the actual fight - amazing, I watched it twice!
I loved the London video - it feels like I'm in the movie. Precisely because of the vibrations it makes the video better. I would love for you to produce more videos of this style. Thank you
Handheld because of story, sequences, and audio. Enjoyed both.
Definitely Nate - following the action, entertaining, able to see the movements
I like the story in the hand held video but differently loved the colors and lighting in the gimbal video, loved your work
If we are judging solely the fight scene I thought Nate won it. Landon did a better job with the intro and story telling aspect and won that part.
I liked the handheld one better, it really puts you inside the scene. Thank you so much for the video and useful tips!
I'm going to give the point to Landon, principally for the storytelling. I loved the references to John Wick and Equalizer in Nates video, and the way he took advantage of the limitations of the gimbal and was able to show off the stunt choreography, but if someone wasn't familiar with those movies there wouldn't be much of a story. With Landon's video I felt much more connected to the protagonist, and the fear of being caught and beat up before the moment of "screw it, I'm done running and hiding!" and the score amplified that moment perfectly. Great job to both of you for creating good fight scenes in just an hour!
They were both unique.. Each had their vibe andbit just cool for me.
Tough one, I like both of them. The gimbal because it makes it easier to read the action and the handheld for the closeness to the action though with the very low lighting it's quite difficult to read it at times and I'm not sure who's punching who.
So because of that one thing, I'm going with the gimbal.
You guys are really good and you made this work look easier than it
Great video,Orbit shots with the gimbal would be more dramatic if shot from a lower angle.and
A few speed ramps would have been great with the hand held
Landon by a large margin, holy crap that was amazing!
No way! I’ve been waiting for this 🤘🏼
Do you guys do a lot of pre-planning before the shoot? Like the camera settings, light temperature, whether to use soft lights or hard lights? or do you guys wing it at the location?
Love this channel
Landon's story was really good like it was taken out of the movie! Impressive 💪✨
I honestly think that nate's use of digital zooms were jarring, like they felt a little out of place. I liked the rest of it, but I prefer landon's version.
I think both gimbal and handheld carry different significance in terms of shooting an action scene. There are times when much handheld is needed and times too when gimbal is needed so they both good in their own ways and times... It's also best to use both gimbal and handheld when necessary
You both did good...
Landon is the clear winner
Big fan of his video-making style
Love him ❤
They are both great filmmakers in their own rights but Landon's skill is lowkey just on another level.
london's video its was great and amazing but I dont like background music without music I thing was will be better but the shot and transition 👌👌 , and for Nate's video I think the sound effect was to much and hight sound, but the idea 💡 of the watch and senario its was great and zoom its great job,
I so much agree with you.
Agreed. The bad sound design and mixing in Nate's was laid bare, while the music in Landon's hid it, haha.
@@AlexNiedt exactly 👌👌
Landon's video was WAY too dark. Had my brightness turned to max and could barely follow the action.
The second one really caught me by surprise! - impressive work folks (and I'm a new viewer of this channel :) ).
I preferred the handheld just because I love that first person feel it gave.
Landon's video is crazy, very very very much engaging ufff, what a work👍🔥🔥🔥
That's nice. Handheld is more natural and easier to carry your hand thanba gimbal 😁
Every video that landon makes in these competition, he's miles in front of his competiton. He just got it. 👌
has he made more like these i can't find any playlist
Fantastic video and loved both your fight videos!! Great insights, conversation and friendly competition.
Great video i loved the discussion on the process
the first video was great and the second one was amazing but the only down point that to drack
I definitely think Landon's video was the better of the two. I noticed multiple people have made comments criticizing how dark Landon's video was and not liking all of the shadows, but personally I found that appealing. Maybe a little more light would have improved it, but I liked the feel of Landon's video more and definitely thought the camerawork complimented the action better, but that of course could be due to handheld vs gimbal.
I a big fan of Lodon since day 1. this competion was really dope, you made lodon
i prefer the handhed
I liked the hand held sequence. 😎👍 Keep these kind of challenge videos coming. Really entertaining and knowledgeable.
Poll: like this if Landon’s was better
Looks like Landon’s winning
I’m going to definitely say Landon won this one
I loved the Handheld Video, also the music added to the whole composition, was really nice touch and feel, and like a scene from a High Budget Film. The Gimbal had some nice shots, but it didnt add the kick and attitude that the handheld did . Good Job to Both! I love the handheld. Maybe handheld vs Gimbal on a wedding video next? :)
Great work on your end both of you,did an amazing work, wish i was part of the team. For this shoot i kinda vibe with the gimbal more but great work on the handheld too, thank you for this guys
Need to be doing a video comp with Peter Mckinnon!
Yo, how about next time Parker Walbeck vs. Peter McKinnon
This wasn’t even fair, Landon’s story telling is amazing!
I see you 😎
@@Igotchyou777 haha always learning!
It's a really close battle between the two of you. I prefer the handheld over the gimbal, as far as the shooting style goes, and you're right, that beginning shot where the dude is running, couldn't even tell. It was a pretty good disguise, kept steady enough, but I felt I was there, like a breathing pattern. Lighting wise, though, I think the scene was slightly too dark to really see some of the action. The gimbal shoot definitely had better lighting, and he really did an amazing job keeping it in the action, but I was missing that "being a witness in the moment" movement the handheld creates. I think the fight scenes should have an unsteady sort of movements to kind of represent the adrenaline, moving out of the way, dodging punches kind of moves. Either way, amazing work by both of you, considering the time-line you had to work with. There is people who definitely couldn't pull this off.
Very nice video. Thank you guys. I would prefer the handheld
Amazing as always. I like the fight vibe that each if them delivered; I think they made the most of each technique, Landon’s video was like he said a little dark but his music, story and edit sold it for me ha.
For the blackmagic, the best results in low light are eighter 100 ISO or 1250. Becuse of the dual native ISO, you have more dinamic range in the shadows if you keep it low. Problem is, you get blown out practical lights.
The fight scene was really good in the first video(and those sound effects were excellent), but I've got a soft spot for action scenes set to music so I'm going to give it to the second video
The BM 6k is an absolute beast in low light, you can use it in 3200 iso with barely any noise. Plus Resolve has a phenomenal noise reducing feature 👍🏻
That handheld video music wow fits the vibe of the video so well....well done guys #truePROs
I think Nate definitely deserves credit, the digital zooms and editing were crisp, and even though he got in the shadows, panning around the fight looked sick. However, the beep of the watch sounded way too crisp for the scene; realistically in a warehouse it would be quieter and with reverb. Landon's felt a lot more immersive, and definitely pulled off the shakycam underlit action movie look. It also told a much clearer story, and syncing cuts around the song was nice.
In both cases however I thought the music was too loud and played for too much of the video, and that the audio would have been better with more ambience and use of silence. However, I'm more of an audio guy so I probably am nitpicking a bit, and the louder music covers up gaps in the sound design that come from the time constraints.
Am gonna go with Nate , "Gimbal" . plus i could see every punch coming !!
Landon's video is better to me, it has a clear story, it makes me feel inside the action, very dynamic and the soundtrack choice was great!
Love this new series!
liked landon's video, storywise and cinematography. and the other video is the Lighting
You guys are so creative, and willing to be like u.
I envy how you live doing what you enjoy the most!!!
Knocked it out of the park fellas!
Parker vs Perter Mckinnon!????!! LET'S MAKE THAT HAPPEN!
It was amazing output that came up from your hands....
Love those gimbal movement also love those handheld tight shots and composition man...
The ways you use light was incredible...
I feel I was like watching movie teaser 👍
I like these videos. Keep em up! Many thanks.
the 3 hats thing is actually a cool concept, i would love to see pro v pro series again
Both of you did a great job
Such a cool and in depth series love it!👍
Nate's looks like an important battle of an action movie. Landon's look like the main character is fighting against the bodyguards who were just about finishing their lunch in a factory. Both are great with different look and moment...
Landon's video just have you hooked from the jump. The close angles and the lighting just hit different. OOF!!
BMPCC6K image is so good compared to mirrorless. Just that alone was an advantage for a cinema-esque sequence lol. Great job by both, though. Fight scene on a gimbal seems incredibly hard
glad to see you guys are getting along after that big fight ;)
You guys rock with your new series!! Love it.