Interview with O'Sensei's Friend • Martial Arts Journey | Ft. Robert Nadeau
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- There are many myths and legends around Aikido founders Morihei Ueshiba's, also known as O'Sensei's life. In this interview with leading Aikido figure Robert Nadeau Shihan, who personally knew Aikido's founder, we talk about how it is important to be grounded and simple in all aspects of life.
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From what I've researched on the first students of Uyeshiba... early training methods of Uyeshiba were brutal and practical. The guy was a warrior in every sense of the word, and his students often cross trained with Jigoro Kano's top level Judoka on regular basis.
In Masahiko Kimura's (legendary in the Judo and BJJ community, and well known for his victory over Helio Gracie) Autobiography "My Judo"... he talks about getting his arm dislocated when sparring hard with one of Uyeshiba's top students.
Seems like as O'Sensei got in his elder years... and after living the carnage and aftermath of World War 2... he started teaching Aikido as a much "softer", more "peaceful", non combative art.
Can you send me sources? Please Im curious.
@@kazumpet720 Masahiro Kimura wrote an Autobiography on his life. Go out and buy it, it's an awesome book and shows a lot of great martial arts historical moments, including his fight with Helio Gracie. It's called "My Judo."
@@AztecUnshaven o sensei is a fraud and pervert
Ueshiba studied and teached Daito-Ryu for 20 years.
@@AztecUnshaven His technique was "too deadly", right?
Wow, you get to talk with many facinating people
While I said in the the video that Nadeau Shihan is a 7th Dan, he was actually promoted to 8th Dan. Just wanted to correct my mistake here :)
If you want to listen to the full, podcast version: anchor.fm/martialartsjourney/episodes/14---A-Talk-with-Aikido-Founders-Friend--Ft--Robert-Nadeau-e2aanu
Nope
@The Godless Did you try BJJ?
I have practiced with Robert Nadeau sensei and remember the "genuineness" of his demeanor. He is a nice man and good teacher.
Haha, haven't you seen star wars E5. Yoda was like that u kno!! Say no to holy
@@solmyr42 I do not remember yoda cursing and chasing young girls. I hate to break it to you but porn parodies are not cannon.
lol xD
TBH any man that chases girls... at least you know he's keeping it real.
Jeff Journigan good teacher of what? Aikido techniques or life. It seems that he is a nice guy but stopped somewhere. How does a person get a 7th Dan in aikido?
“Fuck him get outta my parking space man” lmao love it
It is very interesting to hear the stories about Morihei Ueshiba's childhood and how his philosophical approach to fighting helped him learn to fight. I would really be interested to know how he fought back then.
I see people criticizing you here for being respectful towards a genuine teacher, lol. Any sense of genuineness or respect, they interpret as teacher worship. People need to respect that it's your life. If you feel like practicing more aikido, like returning to your roots with new insight, it's not really their business. If you move on to other arts for the rest of your life, it's not really their business.
Impressive guy and even more impressive interview. Great stuff!
Thank you for posting this, great production, wonderful bit of history.
Interesting fella, even more interesting story teller
Loved the spiritual creative part of the conversation, around 17min into this video, which gives great insight into O Sensei's spiritual ideas..way beyond today's MMA which isn't exactly inspiring. Thanks for sharing Roku
More please. Love your content and your sincerity.
An old shihan in Japan told us candidly that O'Sensei's Aikido was the perfection of Daito Ryu, an ancient battle tested form of Jujitsu (involving weapons stand up and ground fighting where the intention is not to win a contest but survive a bloodbath) where judo came as well. The kind of Aikido we have right now on the other hand is its emasculated form.
Ok.. try to masculinize it again and de-emasculate it them.
That is a fascinating perspective that I find very intuitive. When you think about it, all martial arts seek to train you to do more of what is necessary, and more significantly, less of what is unnecessary, so that you don't waste your energies. Aikido is that idea taken to the extreme, where you optimize things so well that you end up using very little energy at all.
Wow, this was fun. Imagine my surprise seeing my Sensei, Roy Y. Suenaka, in the picture at 1:30. He is the young man standing alone on O’Sensei’s right side (left side of the picture). Suenaka Sensei was a Japanese American in the U.S. Air Force and had permission to study at the Hombu Dojo with O’Sensei during his tours in Japan.
WoW, just wow. This was amazing. Truly inspirational. Thank you so much.
I have visited him in San Fran along with taking several seminars with him on the East Coast and I very much enjoyed every minute of listening to him
Truly impresssing! Really like your channel!!
Thank you :)
Great interview!!!
wow, what a video! kudos!
I wish that was longer. Great interview though!
Thats one of a great interview.
-From a tennis teacher who practiced aikido. ;)
Very cool guy, first time I heard about him. Thank you
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I trained with Nadeau Sensei on many occasions. He's an entertaining, intelligent guy. It's true what he said. You either love him or hate him. I love him.
Thanks for this
Fascinating video. Well done mate. I am following your journey through the arts and am very impressed with your self questioning and desire to find truth. I have said this for years, you can't be O'Sensei without living his life, same as you can't be Bruce Lee, or Mike Tyson, or Rickson Gracie or Connor McGregor etc Most of the greats cannot teach you what they do. Loving your BJJ videos too !
Oh my, Robert Nadeau, looks so different from what I remember him from, I think 1978. I briefly did aikido that summer.
Nadeau Sensei was promoted to 8th dan as part of the 2017 New Year promotions.
Sorry, my mistake, I'll write the correction in the the top of the comments
Here’s the link Rokas. He received this along with three other Americans. It was a proud day. www.aikikai.or.jp/pdf/suisen/h29-0.pdf
Uyeshiba got the idea for Aikido when he was in China and was able to observe cheng style Baguazhang in Peking which was very popular at the time and was uniquely circular with many blending throwing techniques
That opening clip made my day! Osu!
This sensei is a legend!
I started my aikido path and you took a different path but thank you for sharing bless
And you will love Aikido. Ive been practicing it for ten years now. Still loving and learning a lot. Also started jiu jitsu this year, great art too. Enjoy your path.-
Hernan jj vs jj... isn't same thing... and bjj and bjj isn't same... in past i practice aikido/muaythai and lite bjj... englisj pure... from internet for mt spraring wt ant mb (muayboran) and last litle (thai chi)...
sparing i had inaf lite to like:
th-cam.com/video/Io6hPdC41RM/w-d-xo.html
but now im wery pacfull person even in bare... even if conflict...
and if you write about "alkohole" -> when i can stres out where i see doctor not doing job's and my peaopole riske live's... (beafore in past i...)
your microphone quality is outstanding in this video. are those just normal iphone cables?
Thats a really cool sensei
That part where he basically called Saito Sensei an idiot is really telling about the man. I once had a conversation with him back in early 2000’s. I asked him about kiai. He said, “there is no kiai in aikido”. I asked him about the videos of O-Sensei clearly demonstrating kiai. He said, “that must be dubbed in.” Then I asked him about weapons in aikido. He said, “there are no weapons in aikido.” I mentioned that Saito Sensei taught aiki-ken and aiki-jo for ten years in Hombu dojo. He said, “then it must have been against O-Sensei’s wishes.
For someone who was O-Sensei’s “friend” he didn’t t know an awful lot about O-Sensei. Too bad for him TH-cam came around so he couldn’t spread these lies anymore.
In my experience, friendship has little or nothing to do with "knowing about." On the contrary, time spent together is so wonderful there's no room for such boring facts. Leave that to the journalists and interviewers.
Constance Walsh So then maybe he shouldn’t be spreading around provable lies?
Pretty sure he recognized you were an idiot.
Issuing a formal apology here. Strongly disagree with your opinion but tired of behaving this way.
Frank are you Nadeau incognito on the internet? Nadeau is a beat poet in a hakama, which is great for some people but represents a deep study of a small aspect of the greater art
In the picture of O'Sensei with 3 men, the man on the left is Roy Suenaka. He was my instructor and recently passed away in 2020. Robert Nadeau certainly remembers him.
Chogyam Trungpa had same approach. He avoided this "outward showing" with all the robes and headdresses, etc. He taught about a concept called "Spiritual Materialism". A concept definitely worth looking into.
At last we have a real Sensei who doesn't have to espouse fiction as to what he's all about (Seagal) and is real, and tells it like it is. And I'm truly with this guy. I'm not capable, at least not for any length of time, to be in an Om state. I just hope I can do it while practicing martial arts at this point, at my advanced age.
Where can i see the rest of this interview please? i cant seem to find the link you speak of?
There's an advert next to this video for an aikido dojo in the range of my area
The thumbnail s of a guy in a black belt holding blxing pads, arms crossed, one down by the side doing nothing just to look cool. And a student doing a stupidly high roundhouse
Now i'm not aikido expert but... Reckon that's legit
Now that comment about sumo made so many things clear, as aikido locks do counter many sumo pushes, just as spinning counters sumo forward balance for charging. Now... O-sensei looked like a genius martial artist who had the hardest of times trying to make people understand what he was trying to teach. I don't think he'd enjoy seeing how much removed from self-defense aikido most has become.
great - fyi - we have quite a few videos of bob talking about o sensei - if you google 'aikido shihan robert nadeau
I’d love to see your perspective on this interview today at a different stage in your journey
Should have went to New York and interviewed and trained with Shizuo Imaizumi who was top disciple of Koichi Tohei...he was around when O'Sensei died and aikido world was breaking up. His techniques would put annual All Japan national aikido demonstration to shame.
Even in his eighties, the guy is a "monster" in his martial arts ability.
Aikido world fragmented after death of O'Sensei and his son, Doshu (Kisshomaru Ueshiba), took over. Internally, one of the things that they did was to offer "official" high belt ranking to get back top practitioners into Aikikai fold. Shizuo Imaizumi was one of those practitioners. He refused to go back to Aikikai though.
This is not commonly publicized today and has pretty much being wiped out from aikido history.
O'Sensei's style kept on evolving until the day he died. Morihiro Saito (middle aikido) and Koichi Tohei (post-war aikido) spent most time studying under O'Sensei.
Saito's background was in judo and karate while Tohei's background was in judo.
Koichi Tohei was the greatest disciple of O'Sensei and when he came to US in 1950s, he had to defeat numerous wrestlers, judo fighters, karate masters, ju-jitsu masters in open public demonstration, quite often, facing multiple attackers in unrehearsed match.
I started Aikido in 73-74 under a Saito Sensei, but I doubt it was the same Saito Sensei mentioned here. Mine was a Probation Officer in Southern California. Mr. Nadeau mentioning that O’Sensei was a sickly child. If you read much history in the Martial Arts, it seems to be a convention that famous Martial Artists all had to be sickly as a child.
Charles Bukovsky is an
aikido master!
Nice discussion but Robert didn't disclosed much about O-Sensei's life & personality when he was with him, he seemed to have difficulties in putting the right words out of his mouth...I get the philosophical aspects, though.
You should have given him another coffee and cigarettes.
Which uchideshi or shihan spent the most time with Osensei but is considered dumb?
!!!!!! This is not criticism, this is just a message from a viewer and a friend
Don't get me wrong !!!!!!
You know dude I would any day hang out with old Rokas instead on the new one.
It's not about critical thinking (c4itical thinking cannot be forced on anyone) or Martial efficiency my friend,it's about being a better person.
Because if one were truly interested in violence human hands are not made to break walls but to control the tools that can bring down a city but wouldn't you prefer to hold the tools that make one flourish? It's about what mindset we train in, do we train to dominate others or do we train to harmonize and accept.
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How come Morihei Ueshiba was so advanced? Was it because he studied Daito ryu for 20+ years? :D
He was just good at bullshitting people.
He trained by himself with actual spears, in the dark, regularly, for years.. That man was devoted to practice.
Hi Rockas
Very, very, very interesting. Is this it? Nothing more? I also think that Aikido here is just a name, As if he started with a problem he could not solve.
Julian Rozenberg not a problem but a conflict
This guy must be 200 years old lol
Look at the size of his ears!!
Look at the size of your hairy feet.
@@metamorphicorder the bottoms are leathery and I don't need shoes! Time for second breakfast.😊
@Sean Francis Waters Lancaster You mean Galadriel? She's here with me .
he looks like your dad
I am surprised you didn’t ask about aikido being a martial art that is not effective against people who can fight, especially good martial artists of other more practical arts. And why osense taught a non sparing art, one that was only like dancing where one person sort of makes attack motions, but not effective ones and certainly with no intent of being effective and the other person throws the first person, while the first person allows the throw with no resistance. I am surprised you didn’t ask those important questions. Were you uncomfortable to ask that? Its a pity because it is the real problem with aikido andcwhat is keeping people away. Aikido is nit understood by anyone. I got the feeling that even this 7th Dan guy was not really understanding and just going through the motions of something he mastered. Please go back and ask the real questions. I do not get the smoking and drinking thing. The guy has a smokers cough. It doesn’t mean he is not a good aikido practitioner, whatever that means, but he missed the boat. He talks about it being him. What does that mean? He can smoke pot and take cocaine and just say, that’s me. Come on. Not a role model in my eyes.
Was this when Rokas was a different person? You can tell by the length of the ponytail
cant believe the amount of hateful and disrespectful comments videos like these draw in... mankind is really corrupted to the core, thankfully some are enlightened and can carry on the duty of other beings
Aikido is what happens when a ju jutsu guy finds religion lol,,,this guy still torn between two lol,,,,what a character
You should learn to check the dates of videos :)
@@MartialArtsJourney do explain,,,lost. What has date got to do with comment,,you lost me.
he sounds like a bs'er. He insulted Tohei and Saito's skill even though he is not as good as either.
Um... He indicated Tohei was no O'Sensei. You, my friend, are pure B.S. Be on your way...
Frank uh huh....
@@jmesa69x1 James, I apologize. Although I strongly disagree with your comments, one must show restraint in these type of exchanges if we are to advance civilization. I wish to hold myself to a higher standard going forward.
Video starts at 2:50, you're welcome
The Physicality Channel nah, this video starts at 0:00
@@dudleza WRONG
My master has a 10th degree.
Usually having a 10th degree means something is wrong. There is an Aikido master in my country who claims to be a 12th dan
Morihei Ueshiba ironically gave out ranks because he felt they were useless. What was important was the menkyyo. Something his son tried to rectify when he took over and changed Aikido to what it is now.
@@MartialArtsJourney lol yeh there is def something wrong, This guys obsession with martial arts. #Flexin
Beyond shodan, all grades are crap, you get on the mat do your thing, What happens if you visit a club where the 5th dan is not as good as you are, and you are a shodan, what does that say about your grade or his grade. People see the sensei above because he is Ok and knows a lot of information about what he is interested in. If you think your teacher is a 10th dan, and you consider him a master, thats all that matters, but beware having a 10th dan does not mean your a master, a master is special, and its extremly hard to put your finger on it. Best advice i was given was when i was chosen to represent my country (long time ago), it was our first time back in the dojo, any way we had just done a kata and we were all in line, my instructor walked up up stood in front of me and said 'your sh*t', he paused for a second, then went down the line saying it to everyone, and pointed a finger at himself and said the same thing. 'your sh*t, we are all different shades of brown' If we keep this in mind the best we should ever think we are is OK, this way we have a place to grow.
@@MartialArtsJourney in reality tho, he has multiple authoritative entities who claim to be backing his knowledge and rank, some claiming to acknowledge him as a founder of a system and multiple claiming to support his rank at each dan and they are even from different martial arts. There are multiple entities who have awarded him as a 10th dan as well for some exemplary feat and acknowldged his title as Grand Master "So-Shihan-han-shi" no clue what it means.... lol these plaques just cover our largest wall..... Nah I guess everyone you haven't met is just a liar.
Wooooow thanks
Hope you will drop all that mma bullshit soon and return to the way.
You are always trying to show that Aikido dont work.... And them you came here with a vídeo like this .... Why you dont leave Aikido um peace....
He kind of reminds me of a joke
- are you jewish or christian?
- I am an atheist.
- okay... but are you jewish atheist or christian atheist?
When you spend years with something it leaves a mark .
@@jakubmike5657 lolllll
actually he was trying to show the opposite, then he realised he couldn't and tried to change that by mordernising the style, now he's just talking about it without trying to prove anything
Because he loves aikido so much he wants to bring it back to present applications.
You know you're over-dignifying the person when you're bobbing your head up and down in content and agreement while the person isn't really saying anything yet / has given a point more than 3 secs ago / talking filler words "ummm", "aaahhhh", etc. / is about to say something but has not said anything yet.
Looks like raw ingredients of bullshido. Looks like it's a leftover habit from your past negative experiences that peeks out and is therefore somewhat feeding to exacerbate into those negative events.
He was just ave struck. Like he met his idol or sth. Oh Rokas, I thought that you cured yourself from this hero worship.
By these references: www.skillsyouneed.com/ips/active-listening.html , en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_listening
in relation to the things i was pointing out - No, it's not.