I made a community post regarding the "Agreement With Mea" yesterday. Just let u know the version I put in the description is just a translation. "Don't chat with other audiences during the live stream" is not a rule discriminating oversea viewers but these same rules apply to everyone, her Japanese viewers and her Chinese viewers on Bilibili as well. You may feel confused due to culture difference becuase other patforms may not have similar rules but this is applied for a lot of Vtubers not only Mea. Vtubers, when they do chatting streams they depend on the comment section to develop and continue their talk, flouding the section with completely unrelevent or unreadable comments will create problems. It's not saying that you can't comment in English but if you choose English, make it short and simple, make it grade school English so she can understand. And like she said, it would be wonderful if you go through google translate and copy paste the JP translation. The most important is Pls DO NOT sell virtural subway or taco bell like what happened in her 6.11 karaoke stream's comment section, I'm not making these clips to ruin her stream or make her headache.
What's saddening to me, is that one guy is over here simping for mea so hard, that the guy that is trying to translate the literal thing she is saying is not being heard because the one guy is too busy being lustful. Translator: She said "I like it when you guys give me money and are willing to learn Japanese for me" Even though it was most likely just in a joking manner, that is LITERALLY what she said. Simps response: "Nah, my perfect online wholesome waifu would NEVER say anything like that, because she isn't human and totally wouldn't do that". I swear, it's saddening how many people put these idols (and just youtubers in general) on some sort of pedestal and forget that we're all human in the end. The same way I can't be bothered to watch their streams because I have no idea what is being said, hence why I love these translated ones so much, she also can't be bothered to try and translate every single english comment that rolls down the screen. Anyway, apologies for the rant.
The comment on my head say some straight *FACT* for me most of the time i didnt catch the stream cause i always stick with Nijisanji ID or Hololive ID cause they can speak english and it just feel more chilling to understand what someone say. This is why all of us love vtuber translator community for translating all of this clip.
@@Snowvy Honestly I feel like my Japanese suck when watching her chatting streams so I don't really focus on those that much (mostly I go over her archives)but her karaoke streams are just amazing.
Exactly. Also, as you could see in the video, English comments take up a lot of space (~16 letters= 1 line). On average most of the Japanese comments only take up 1-2 lines, but a proper English sentence could easily take up to 3-4 lines, so it's advisable to forgo perfect grammar if you are planning on commenting in English. Just as we aren't obligated to learn Japanese, Mea isn't obligated to learn English. My advices for watching her streams are: if you really feel the need to express yourselves at certain moments, just learn some basic stream slangs like 草(lol) or かわいい (cute) or お疲れ様でした(thank you for the stream). When in Rome, do as the Romans do, right? And if you really feel motivated to learn Japanese for her, why not? At the end of the day it benefits you too.
@@youraveragemachine1013 i mean now theyre like that because of the huge influx of recent fans (eg hololive) but they were not always like this. many were proper idols back in the day
Other Vtubers: I'll try to learn english so i can understand my oversea viewers. Mea: You guys have to learn Japanese to reach me and give me money..... :D Bois, time to study hard
Awkward moments like that are usually a reason for not try to reading them anymore, the risk of misunderstanding and saying something you didn't mean to and offend your viewership is there, not saying it for Mea tho because probably she doesn't care that much about that.
I found it funny how so many of the English comments were, “she doesn’t understand English” so it was more like Japanese -> English translators were making her mad for delivering her message to English viewers.
Understandably so. I can't speak Japanese at a decent enough level to feel comfortable commenting using it during streams and Google Translate is both unreliable and slow if you just want to say something as a quick reaction to what was said or smth like that... so I just don't comment at all unless it's something *really* simple. I find it incredibly annoying that the vast majority of English comments that appear in almost any VTuber's streams (there are some exceptions I won't mention here): 1. Don't talk about the stream/VTuber in the first place. 2. Often are just conversations between others like them or are just semi-random meme words spoken to seem funny to a few others who are like them. 3. Clearly come from people who really just don't know even the basics of Japanese and yet come there to spam the chat with those comments anyway (sometimes even further spamming shit like "what did she just say??", "what is she laughing about, plz help???!!!" 4. Are translations for the retards mentioned in [3]. It's pointless. I don't care if you appreciate them or something, they are (sometimes poor even) translations often for things like puns/jokes that the VTuber said and it makes no sense to explain a joke with such a delay in the first place. Imagine watching an anime with subtitles that are delayed by like 20+ seconds... Pointless. I absolutely despise the saying "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", but in this case, seriously - "If you don't have anything valuable or at the very least _understandable_ to the streamer to say, don't say anything at all". Even if the comments don't annoy the VTuber, they definitely annoy a lot of the other, normal viewers/commenters. Just fucking 空気を読め motherfuckers.
@@Karsh. eh. Live translators are fine if they keep it short and concise. A lot of the time they simply do it to get basic meanings across. Commenting in english xan also be fine, depending on tge vtuber. Towa f.e. got the whole "big kusa" thing going, or korone actively calling for english viewers with her "hey guys". So far Ayame's chat has been the most balanced i've seen. English comments are few and usually to the point. Easy to comment on her streams as well because she's just so god damn adorable that a simple copy+paste " kawaii" or a short phrase even in english like "ojou ia cute today as well" says it all.
And understandably this will make her lose bunch of english viewers. Again look at how Korone is handling english viewers and compare it with this "learn japanese for me or gtfo" approach. People watching her benefits her, its her job not mine . I can understand how it must be frustrating not understanding anything but the punchline of her request should be "try to use simpler english" not "learn japanese and throw me money"
Ahh the good old "Japanese Virtual youtubers might totally hate english comments on their chat" kind of argument. First things first different Vtubers might feel different towards their english speakers, just because one streamer feels uncomfortable with english comments filling up the chat doesnt mean the other vtubers will too. Some streamers ignore them, others sometimes pay attention to them (Very rarely though as Mea said), others might try to read it and communicate, and some legit try to attract and pay attention to english comments cuss those english comments are STILL fans of the Vtuber. it depends mostly on both how the Vtuber addresses those english comments and in turn dictate how the english comments in the chat will act. Korone's chat for example, has both a massive Japanese and English fanbase but the majority of the English commenters understand the rules of the chat and Keep quiet in order to not disrupt the flow of the chat which, as much as some of us dont like to accept it, is majorly targeted for the Japanese audience, Korone thankfully at the end of everystream does address the english comments and gives them a little bit of attention which does make the viewers feel appriciated. Fubuki's chat on the other hand, seeing as she's one of the most popular Vtubers out there and attracts a lot of new fans everyday thanks to her meme posting, and that ends up attracting english commenters that arent used to the concept of how Vtuber's streams work and how to be "Polite" to them. some come in trying to start a conversations with the streamer despite the streamer obviously not understanding english, or try to talk with other viewers in the chat room despite the rules clearly stating to not do so, and others straight up get mad when they get told to please follow the rules. This will likely annoy some people, but please try to be polite to the streamer, this is a different culture from our own, we're guests and they have rules. if you want an example think of it as us going to the house of a japanese person, they'll ask you to take off your shoes at the entrance, say thank you for the meal after you're served food, when the host is talking you lisen intently and not start any kind of conversation with other people around the house.... All of that is basically ignored when people go into a stream and do their own thing, which is incredibly rude in the eyes of some.
@John Bolden III From what i've seen the viewers tend to focus on the thing Korone is doing and don't break any of this ''rules'' (except when they are in the lobby before the streams starts), i've only seen one guy speaking spanish and one in english spamming in some streams but since there is a lot of people sending messages they just get swept by the current. And since Korone is completely chill with people typing in english the chat is a mix of 80% japanese and 20% english comments
From what I read her viewevers in english think her feet stink and that she doesn't bath or she uses whatever that Feebreze thing they mention is (of course as a joke) luckily for them she doesn't know how to read english otherwise she will explode into a rage.
Aren't those like "inside jokes"? How is commenting those a bad thing? XD Isn't she playfully fighting with her viewers all the time? That's basically what i was able to take away from those clips.
I was just wondering this the other day, if the influx of foreign viewers and comments stresses some vtubers out due to their inability to read them. Not to mention trying to read a language you’re not very familiar with can definitely give you a headache
others seem to really enjoy it and learn English on the side while teaching Japanese to those viewers. I never thought it was a bad thing or that foreign viewers are a perceived badly by the community. It's quite shocking to read this.
RambleOn07 because english is the lingua franca of the world and japanese isnt. You can communicate with anyone from a country with basic education with english.
One thing I feel really bad about is when I see a spammer or general shitstarter commenting a bunch, generally I just block em but I realized that the Vtuber & JP viewers will still see a bunch of it probably. Is it actually the case that if enough people report someone in chat their comments won't be seen? I feel like reporting spammers is more important than just blocking them if it would actually improve the experience for everyone.
reporting them is good way to stop them if everyone else feels the same. spammer appeared in Haachama's stream and in around 10 minutes the spammer got banned.
not sure how youtube works, but most of the twich streamers I watch, even the ones with a very little following, have super great moderators helping out. I'm often disapointed because spam troll messages, get deleted so quickly, i can't even read the entire comment, and the user is often temporarily suspended instantly. In some cases, particularly repeat offenders, they are banned permenantly. This ban is often lifted, in a whole twich stream wide chat unban, with the streamer saying something like, "I believe in giving people second chances," but at the same time, these are quite rare, and people have commented using alternate accounts claiming to have been banned for years, pleading the streamer to unban them.
@@mrbodycatcer Some Vtubers have mods, but those mods tend to be Japanese as well and dont understand English either. So how can they ban anyone if they dont know there is spam? The only time I have seen mods being very active was during the bot crisis when TH-cam went to shit for a while due to Corona. There were hundreds of those dumbass sex bait bots that were deleted and banned en masse. They were easy to recognize because they spammed the same emojis and had very obvious names with the word sex or "Click my name" in them. In all other cases those who dont know English can only assume the chat isnt so bad.
@@mrbodycatcer one indie vtuber has a mod that's always on the ball like that. If I look away for a second I'll look back and see [message deleted] and wonder what I just missed. I know a lot of it has stemmed from goularte fans bringing him up all the time though.
actually - no offense - but the english group chat in the livestream is indeed kinda annoying from the looks here, the whole chatting with one another and all that. So I get her frustration, she doesn't even know what's being said there
@@45deathshadow idk about that, twitch is the only live platform most people have experience with, bringing what you learned from twitch over to other livestreams is almost second nature. Annoying? Yes. Disrespectful? Nah.
Yeah I got the feeling that getting a bunch of comments in a language you dont understand would be annoying as hell if it happens consistently so I always try to stick to japanese as much as I can but I just dont know enough to comment anything other than 草, yabai or sugoi for the time being but now I get very self conscious whenever I am going to say anything in english and the thing with translate is that the time that it takes to translate what you want to say, it probably isnt relevant any more so it would only really be feasable for superchats plus you wouldnt even know if they responded to you because you wouldnt understand them. Language barrier is a bitch ;-;
Usually, Japanese chat likes to spam the same words when an event happens in the stream. You can copy and paste these common comments into google translate to find out what they mean. You can then save these words in notepad or something to use for references to give yourself more variety in things to say in chat. You could also just google translate what you want to say, just make sure to double check it so that when your sentence gets translated into Japanese, it retains the same meaning. Also, if the chat is going slow enough, you can actually google translate the entire chat.
Glad you made this clip, because I'm sure a lot of streamers from any country feel this way about foreign viewers but Mea is the only one brazen enough to say it. It's honestly annoying as a viewer too when the chat is full of people being creepy or rude
Yeah it annoys me so much that I couldn't watch the full video, but I understand the general concept anyway. I doubt it but I hope this doesnt affect Mea and she doesn't think all overseas (specifically english speaker) are this rude and bad
Those who's making the livestream a group chat is really stupid. I mean aside for those who translating what's Mea talking about live. Those who talks random sht and not relevant on the situation is really rude. Just because the Chat isn't that crowd and not over flood with comments that doesn't mean its a right thing to just chat to other viewers.
Guys, I understand, but try not to lambast these people and say there stupid. You guys should know that English streaming culture is very different from Japanese streaming culture, so you can’t necessarily fault them if they are newer English viewers who haven’t had the rules told to them. I’m not saying it isn’t rude or they are right, but just try understanding and politely telling these people to not talk about other things if you come across it! :)
This is some pretty packed Mea content lol, from her addressing English comments to checking translation clips, how people comment when someone act cutesy and suddenly disappearance of the English comments lol
I like Mea honesty on this, and I think it's the standard of what any Japanese Vtuber who doesn't speak any english would want for an oversea fan: "learn some japanese and please comment on japanese so I can understand you"
Thing is that while not impossible Japanese is really hard to learn, honestly I'd personally love to learn more of it and while my japanese is certainly rusty I've definitely learned some words like すばらしい。
I always have very mixed feelings on the overseas audience and Vtubers. Now mind you, I am a filthy foreigner and I don't actually speak Japanese either. I understand very rudamentary sentences and have to use google translate 90% of the time for anything written. But at least I try to get the gist of what a stream is about and what's going on however I can. Translate the stream title, translate some of the comments periodically, try to get a feel for what is going on. During chat streams I would mostly stay quiet and only occasionally react when it's obvious that something funny was said and everyone spams grass. Occasionally I try to use a translated Japanese phrase if I really feel like I can inform someone of something (especially smaller Vtubers). The only times I feel comfortable making full English sentence comments is when the Vtuber is not really paying attention to the chat anyway (like during games) or when there is like an insane flow of comments and I get buried anyway. Sometimes making remarks on what's going on for other English readers who dont get it or talking about the game itself. Stuff that's on topic. What I can't stand is when foreign viewers keep talking about irrelevant topics, have convos with each other as if it was a personal chatroom or constantly try to make the Vtuber "say something" or have a direct conversation with her... She doesn't understand you. Almost none of them do. And those who do tend to ignore English comments, because their main audience is Japanese and they dont always want to break the flow like that. And of course most of their questions show the insane disconnect that's going on because neither side understand the other. Vtuber talks about some interesting in depth topic and the comments say stuff like "How are you?" or "Can you speak Spanish?" and nonsense like that. Speaking of Spanish people, those start flooding the comments too now... and many of them just want them to say swear words or acknowledge them. Ugh. At least it is semi-reasonable to believe that Japanese streamers know like... grade-school English, but I can gurantee you *they don't speak a lick of Spanish* . And with the rapid growth that's happening, there is no way to properly teach these new audience members how it works. And many don't care either. As long as it fulfills their desire for attention and the novelty still hasnt worn off they will just bulldoze right through without any self-awareness. The worst is when someone tells them to read the rules and they feel *insulted* for the very idea that they have to follow them. They start calling people simps for daring to respect someone's wishes. It's toxic and pathetic. It may sound like I am just pushing the problem away, but there *are* Vtubers that actively engage an English audience. Hololive ID & Nijisanji ID are all multi-lingual and can speak English. There are even some smaller American Vtubers like Kana Kimiko, who speak English exclusively. Wouldn't it be great to support someone who actually can interact with you? They can also tell you off directly, which really helps (lol). I am not saying to exclusively go to them, but damn it, the point of this whole business is to interact and understand each other. If you only watch them for the cuteness, then you can watch their translated clips, right? If you just wanna listen to their streams that's fine too. But this *non-interaction* both ways that just kinda inconveniences others has to be kept in check.
Yeah, the entitlement is real with those kinds of retards. I hope those ppl are just kids who never learned how to at least lurk before posting. Now, If they're an adult and still don't know common courtesy in a foreign environment....thats just sad.
@Clinical Depression Completely faulty reasoning. The platform is international and English is not the dominant language at all. That is why you can change your language setting to dozens of other languages and that's why you have Japanese, Spanish, Italian and Russian communities on this site. What actually decides which domain you enter is the TH-camr's channel . If they are Japanese, then you should have the common sense to treat it as a Japanese channel and only interact with them in the capacity that they are comfortable with. You are the kind of problematic fan that feels entitled because "we help them grow" and "we donate money". That is not the point. You can do both of these things while healthily engaging and growing the fanbase with respect. These kinds of terrible comments flooding their chats is an active detriment to their work. There is no excuse for it. The fact that you utterly miss every point I made for your delusional "You are the problem" counter-steering is frankly insulting. I am not the type to discuss this shit with people in chat. Why do you think I said that I almost never write anything in chat in the first place? I do block and report. That doesn't change the fact that this is a problem that exists. Your indifference helps noone. You have managed to project at least 3 things onto me just out of sheer ignorance. I do not gatekeep, I do not think Western culture is inferior (the opposite is actually the case, I dont like Japanese culture in broad terms) and I literally gave several alternatives to learning Japanese. If you can't read, don't reply.
I think the main question for you as an english viewer/commenter is: do you _want_ the Vtuber to _understand_ you? If yes, you have 4 (?) options, in order of involvment: 1) Simple, short grade school english sentences or phrases (put through google translate for bonus). 2) Learn some typically used phrases such as "kawaii" and "kusa". (Romaji option) 3) Learn kana, get an IME and use that for phrases from (2). There are many free resources out there for this. Bonus if you learn specific kanji to use like 草. -4) Actually learn Japanese- That's not to say english comments are somehow worse. I'd argue that if the Vtuber can understand it, an english comment can show interest from overseas viewers. In Mea's case, she might not speak back in english, but clearly she has an interest since she's tried to read comments on translated clips. If you don't care then, why even bother commenting lol?
that is a lot of English speaker showing up real quick when she started talking about she can't understand and read English. These people are hiding for real.
I generally don't comment on streams, feels really awkward to be the only eng there when I know the others don't speak eng + I don't speak jp so not a lot of point of me being in the stream live. And I only really comment on a single vtubers actual videos just to show support, don't mind whether they read it or not and they don't generally reply to anyone commenting even in jp so it's no problem to me, though I do worry sometimes, ya know?
The only problem is that I tried to translate it but it doesn't make any fucking sense. I have to do it twice 1st translate it to Japanese and then translate it back to English to make sure I'm not saying garbage
Correct argument. Speaking English will not increase your audience. Nor will it increase superchat. Studying is a waste of time. I write comments in Japanese to Japanese and in English to English speakers. DeepL is very useful lol
The only vtuber I’ve ever seen who genuinely seems upset by the presence of English comments. I can understand people getting triggered by English comments spamming or otherwise not following the rules. But somehow I doubt all English comments are like that... but it’s her channel so if she doesn’t wanna see English comments fuck em. It’s not like English speakers have to watch her in the first place
lmfao i don't think i ever experienced a toxic community till i looked at this comment section. I'm glad i never experienced this level of people being territorial with other vtubers :D note to self though....apparently i shouldn't type anything in english on a mea stream smfh
i love the fact that she said this in japanese. She could had throw a google translator and asked the fanbase to do the rest.(I actually love this facts).
I need to Learn both Spanish and Japanese. Spanish to understand my defined and casual, “easy to get along with” grandma. Japanese to understand Anime girls.
This why I really appreciate you translators. I love the silliness of the clips translated, but dont watch their streams or archives because I don't understand, unless they try an English-only challenge. Glad HololiveEn is a thing now
But anyway, is education of English in Japan really on such low level? I always thought that this whole 'engrish' and Japanese people speaking bad English was just a stereotype
It's kinda weird...they don't know the basic english. Like,the basic level...and they are crazy in other areas. But for some weird reason they know nothing of english. Being pretty honest,is not the english speaking group fault to not understand...is kinda weird that the norm between japan and english is 'they don't know".
Japan have a very low emigration rate. Countries with high emigration rate tends to have their citizens learn the english language so they can move to western countries. English tests in most japanese schools are based on memorization that`s why only those who hire personal tutors can speak english fluently because they can actually have someone correct their pronounciation. After graduating highschool, there`s really no need for english in japan except if someone wants to live in another country.
I know more speaking japanese then writing japanese so when i write japanese using auto kanji im worried its the wrong symbol. Its easyer to speak then write
@@kagurameaenglishunofficial7177 I am currently studying Japanese. I can read to a certain extent. But I am very bad at listening or speaking. Any tips please?
Some people in this comment section going like ''How disrespectful do you have to be to talk amongst yourselves'' have probably never interacted with a small streamer. The only people that even have the privilege to make a rule like that are big Vtubers that don't have to give a damn about viewer retention. Every smaller streamer, vtuber or not, tries to get the viewer to turn the stream into a personal hangout spot, because that's how you get people to come back. And that's not a twitch thing, that's as much a youtube streaming thing, or a facebook streaming thing, or a mixer streaming thing. If anyone is going to try and tell me that Japanese streamers, even with 2 viewers, enforce rules against talking amongst oneself then please enlighten me how Japanese streamers actually build a community and grow.
Is just as you said, some smaller vtubers don't have rules against that, for example Kureha kurono, as long as isn't off topic you can interact with others, but that's because is easy to follow the flow of comments, and also she can pay a bit attention to almost everyone but if her channel grows of course that kind of interaction would end and the rules will change
I actually watch a LOT of smaller streamers, but never start chatting like in discord on the chat. Unless its about a topic that the streamer is talking about
My opinion on the use of languages other than the main one used in the current context (be it a forum, chat, etc) is that it's akin to spam and should be outright banned, unless explicitly allowed within that community. I remember when I was still learning English it would take me a few minutes to formulate any kind of coherent comment and I would usually have to make use of dictionaries and/or google translate. If you can't do at least that much, just keep it to yourself, nothing you have to say is that important anyway 👍
@@nomad123ad if you like a streamer enough to want to talk, then at least put in some effort to learn the language. Might take a while, but in the end you might gain a new useful skill along the way. Plus, theres a shit ton of free resources to learn Jpn. So, otherwise, just admit you're lazy lmao.
@@Marxist-Nixonist-Bidenist It was probably cause it was translated in the chat that she would prefer comments in Japanese because she can't read English, then people stopped making so many comments.
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I made a community post regarding the "Agreement With Mea" yesterday. Just let u know the version I put in the description is just a translation. "Don't chat with other audiences during the live stream" is not a rule discriminating oversea viewers but these same rules apply to everyone, her Japanese viewers and her Chinese viewers on Bilibili as well. You may feel confused due to culture difference becuase other patforms may not have similar rules but this is applied for a lot of Vtubers not only Mea. Vtubers, when they do chatting streams they depend on the comment section to develop and continue their talk, flouding the section with completely unrelevent or unreadable comments will create problems. It's not saying that you can't comment in English but if you choose English, make it short and simple, make it grade school English so she can understand. And like she said, it would be wonderful if you go through google translate and copy paste the JP translation. The most important is Pls DO NOT sell virtural subway or taco bell like what happened in her 6.11 karaoke stream's comment section, I'm not making these clips to ruin her stream or make her headache.
What's saddening to me, is that one guy is over here simping for mea so hard, that the guy that is trying to translate the literal thing she is saying is not being heard because the one guy is too busy being lustful. Translator: She said "I like it when you guys give me money and are willing to learn Japanese for me" Even though it was most likely just in a joking manner, that is LITERALLY what she said. Simps response: "Nah, my perfect online wholesome waifu would NEVER say anything like that, because she isn't human and totally wouldn't do that". I swear, it's saddening how many people put these idols (and just youtubers in general) on some sort of pedestal and forget that we're all human in the end. The same way I can't be bothered to watch their streams because I have no idea what is being said, hence why I love these translated ones so much, she also can't be bothered to try and translate every single english comment that rolls down the screen. Anyway, apologies for the rant.
The comment on my head say some straight *FACT* for me most of the time i didnt catch the stream cause i always stick with Nijisanji ID or Hololive ID cause they can speak english and it just feel more chilling to understand what someone say. This is why all of us love vtuber translator community for translating all of this clip.
@@Snowvy Honestly I feel like my Japanese suck when watching her chatting streams so I don't really focus on those that much (mostly I go over her archives)but her karaoke streams are just amazing.
Exactly.
Also, as you could see in the video, English comments take up a lot of space (~16 letters= 1 line). On average most of the Japanese comments only take up 1-2 lines, but a proper English sentence could easily take up to 3-4 lines, so it's advisable to forgo perfect grammar if you are planning on commenting in English.
Just as we aren't obligated to learn Japanese, Mea isn't obligated to learn English.
My advices for watching her streams are: if you really feel the need to express yourselves at certain moments, just learn some basic stream slangs like 草(lol) or かわいい (cute) or お疲れ様でした(thank you for the stream). When in Rome, do as the Romans do, right? And if you really feel motivated to learn Japanese for her, why not? At the end of the day it benefits you too.
Sell virtual subway and taco bell? I'm afraid I don't understand this phrase. People were selling food in the comments?
Her english peaked when she learned how to ask for money, she doesn't need to know anything else
One word: Money. Anything else is useless to her.
We need her to sing material girl
Mr.Krabs as an anime girl
"I Don't Because I Can't"
I feel that
I don't feel that actually and english is my 2nd language
@@mayuravirus6134 wrong
@@mayuravirus6134 dummy dum dum
complains about complex english comments, chat starts writting essays.
this is proper interaction with our queen
nice profile pic lmao
Idk if its cool or bad to know his/her profile
Lmao shes the opposite of wholesome. It's really refreshing
It’s almost more wholesome that she’s openly not wholesome
@@nadaso8819 which vtuber have you been watching lately? Because everyvtuber I watch recently is pure chaotic (and I love it).
Amen,can only take so much cute shit before they all just blend together.
@@youraveragemachine1013 i mean now theyre like that because of the huge influx of recent fans (eg hololive) but they were not always like this. many were proper idols back in the day
Other Vtubers: I'll try to learn english so i can understand my oversea viewers.
Mea: You guys have to learn Japanese to reach me and give me money.....
:D Bois, time to study hard
bác cũng là 1 con người bị lọt vào vòng xoáy này à
Being someone that struggles to learn even basics of other languages: I understand her pain.
Korone: I want to learn English for my viewers!
Mea: I'd be happy if you guys learned Japanese
sasuga...
Me: normally speaking german be like :/
She did read one though
Yes the most popular one
*NICE HIGH BTCHI*
That's not the only one, that's why I find her new posture over english coments so weird.
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PITCH, Meachan will Tsundere
Awkward moments like that are usually a reason for not try to reading them anymore, the risk of misunderstanding and saying something you didn't mean to and offend your viewership is there, not saying it for Mea tho because probably she doesn't care that much about that.
I seen her read a few over the time just in case people were curious.
2:46 HUH A VTUBER IDLE HUH? "Money Money Money"
I found it funny how so many of the English comments were, “she doesn’t understand English” so it was more like Japanese -> English translators were making her mad for delivering her message to English viewers.
Have to admit that love her sassy attitude, thanks for the video
She scratched her ass on stream btw then smelled it
I like it when you give me money or comment in Japanese
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Ah yeah, Mea in her truest sense...
towa : "i start learning English because some of my viewers are speaking English"
mea : "i won't learn it tho"
" *No Idea* of the *No Idea* = no idea "
Kagura Mea~
even though she made it funny, she did sound a bit pissed
Understandably so.
I can't speak Japanese at a decent enough level to feel comfortable commenting using it during streams and Google Translate is both unreliable and slow if you just want to say something as a quick reaction to what was said or smth like that... so I just don't comment at all unless it's something *really* simple.
I find it incredibly annoying that the vast majority of English comments that appear in almost any VTuber's streams (there are some exceptions I won't mention here):
1. Don't talk about the stream/VTuber in the first place.
2. Often are just conversations between others like them or are just semi-random meme words spoken to seem funny to a few others who are like them.
3. Clearly come from people who really just don't know even the basics of Japanese and yet come there to spam the chat with those comments anyway (sometimes even further spamming shit like "what did she just say??", "what is she laughing about, plz help???!!!"
4. Are translations for the retards mentioned in [3]. It's pointless. I don't care if you appreciate them or something, they are (sometimes poor even) translations often for things like puns/jokes that the VTuber said and it makes no sense to explain a joke with such a delay in the first place. Imagine watching an anime with subtitles that are delayed by like 20+ seconds... Pointless.
I absolutely despise the saying "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", but in this case, seriously - "If you don't have anything valuable or at the very least _understandable_ to the streamer to say, don't say anything at all".
Even if the comments don't annoy the VTuber, they definitely annoy a lot of the other, normal viewers/commenters.
Just fucking 空気を読め motherfuckers.
@@Karsh. eh. Live translators are fine if they keep it short and concise. A lot of the time they simply do it to get basic meanings across. Commenting in english xan also be fine, depending on tge vtuber. Towa f.e. got the whole "big kusa" thing going, or korone actively calling for english viewers with her "hey guys".
So far Ayame's chat has been the most balanced i've seen. English comments are few and usually to the point. Easy to comment on her streams as well because she's just so god damn adorable that a simple copy+paste " kawaii" or a short phrase even in english like "ojou ia cute today as well" says it all.
@@Karsh. Amen
Karsh Imagine a bunch of foreigners start flooding your favorite virtual girls with “say n*gga again!!! XD” This was Miko’s chat for a solid 3 months
And understandably this will make her lose bunch of english viewers. Again look at how Korone is handling english viewers and compare it with this "learn japanese for me or gtfo" approach. People watching her benefits her, its her job not mine . I can understand how it must be frustrating not understanding anything but the punchline of her request should be "try to use simpler english" not "learn japanese and throw me money"
Ahh the good old "Japanese Virtual youtubers might totally hate english comments on their chat" kind of argument.
First things first different Vtubers might feel different towards their english speakers, just because one streamer feels uncomfortable with english comments filling up the chat doesnt mean the other vtubers will too.
Some streamers ignore them, others sometimes pay attention to them (Very rarely though as Mea said), others might try to read it and communicate, and some legit try to attract and pay attention to english comments cuss those english comments are STILL fans of the Vtuber.
it depends mostly on both how the Vtuber addresses those english comments and in turn dictate how the english comments in the chat will act.
Korone's chat for example, has both a massive Japanese and English fanbase but the majority of the English commenters understand the rules of the chat and Keep quiet in order to not disrupt the flow of the chat which, as much as some of us dont like to accept it, is majorly targeted for the Japanese audience, Korone thankfully at the end of everystream does address the english comments and gives them a little bit of attention which does make the viewers feel appriciated.
Fubuki's chat on the other hand, seeing as she's one of the most popular Vtubers out there and attracts a lot of new fans everyday thanks to her meme posting, and that ends up attracting english commenters that arent used to the concept of how Vtuber's streams work and how to be "Polite" to them. some come in trying to start a conversations with the streamer despite the streamer obviously not understanding english, or try to talk with other viewers in the chat room despite the rules clearly stating to not do so, and others straight up get mad when they get told to please follow the rules.
This will likely annoy some people, but please try to be polite to the streamer, this is a different culture from our own, we're guests and they have rules.
if you want an example think of it as us going to the house of a japanese person, they'll ask you to take off your shoes at the entrance, say thank you for the meal after you're served food, when the host is talking you lisen intently and not start any kind of conversation with other people around the house.... All of that is basically ignored when people go into a stream and do their own thing, which is incredibly rude in the eyes of some.
@John Bolden III From what i've seen the viewers tend to focus on the thing Korone is doing and don't break any of this ''rules'' (except when they are in the lobby before the streams starts), i've only seen one guy speaking spanish and one in english spamming in some streams but since there is a lot of people sending messages they just get swept by the current. And since Korone is completely chill with people typing in english the chat is a mix of 80% japanese and 20% english comments
Fubuki is even trying to communicate to people speaking non-english and non-japanese as well which is pretty impressive, and hilarious to watch.
And isn't it "Don't talk offtopic" rather than "Don't talk to other viewers"?
They'll not understand, there's no reason to even comment in English
Honestly, I think the main reason why is that most english comments are used to twitch culture which is 90% spam, unless in sub only mode
From what I read her viewevers in english think her feet stink and that she doesn't bath or she uses whatever that Feebreze thing they mention is (of course as a joke) luckily for them she doesn't know how to read english otherwise she will explode into a rage.
She said she google translate some comments so she's probably mostly aware that the joke extends beyond to overseas fans lol
audiencefromspace she even replied to a twitter argument about this
I mean... those are the same inside jokes the Japanese audience also knows. After all Mea does often get herself into these arguments lol
Aren't those like "inside jokes"? How is commenting those a bad thing? XD Isn't she playfully fighting with her viewers all the time? That's basically what i was able to take away from those clips.
@@HunterSThompson123 Just like the last time she was shock that her otaku viewer are married
4:31 Actually cute though
"I'd be happy if you learn Japanese"
Lol, now I have no excuse anymore.
Its funny people that comment in english do expect them to be able to fully understand it, then get angry if they get ignored lol.
I was just wondering this the other day, if the influx of foreign viewers and comments stresses some vtubers out due to their inability to read them. Not to mention trying to read a language you’re not very familiar with can definitely give you a headache
A lot of streamers have an English only rule. I don't see why vTubers can't have a Japanese only rule.
RambleOn07 if they had started with that rule it might have been ok, but implementing it now would likely cause some issues
others seem to really enjoy it and learn English on the side while teaching Japanese to those viewers. I never thought it was a bad thing or that foreign viewers are a perceived badly by the community. It's quite shocking to read this.
RambleOn07 because english is the lingua franca of the world and japanese isnt. You can communicate with anyone from a country with basic education with english.
One thing I feel really bad about is when I see a spammer or general shitstarter commenting a bunch, generally I just block em but I realized that the Vtuber & JP viewers will still see a bunch of it probably. Is it actually the case that if enough people report someone in chat their comments won't be seen? I feel like reporting spammers is more important than just blocking them if it would actually improve the experience for everyone.
I rather report them than blocking them.
reporting them is good way to stop them if everyone else feels the same. spammer appeared in Haachama's stream and in around 10 minutes the spammer got banned.
not sure how youtube works, but most of the twich streamers I watch, even the ones with a very little following, have super great moderators helping out. I'm often disapointed because spam troll messages, get deleted so quickly, i can't even read the entire comment, and the user is often temporarily suspended instantly. In some cases, particularly repeat offenders, they are banned permenantly. This ban is often lifted, in a whole twich stream wide chat unban, with the streamer saying something like, "I believe in giving people second chances," but at the same time, these are quite rare, and people have commented using alternate accounts claiming to have been banned for years, pleading the streamer to unban them.
@@mrbodycatcer Some Vtubers have mods, but those mods tend to be Japanese as well and dont understand English either. So how can they ban anyone if they dont know there is spam? The only time I have seen mods being very active was during the bot crisis when TH-cam went to shit for a while due to Corona. There were hundreds of those dumbass sex bait bots that were deleted and banned en masse. They were easy to recognize because they spammed the same emojis and had very obvious names with the word sex or "Click my name" in them.
In all other cases those who dont know English can only assume the chat isnt so bad.
@@mrbodycatcer one indie vtuber has a mod that's always on the ball like that. If I look away for a second I'll look back and see [message deleted] and wonder what I just missed. I know a lot of it has stemmed from goularte fans bringing him up all the time though.
actually - no offense - but the english group chat in the livestream is indeed kinda annoying from the looks here, the whole chatting with one another and all that. So I get her frustration, she doesn't even know what's being said there
They act like Twitch chat and just spam stupid things and unfunny memes. So annoying.
Annoying and leaning on disrespectful ngl
The twitch spam is indeed annoying but those that talk between themselves happen because we cant understand the stream
@@45deathshadow idk about that, twitch is the only live platform most people have experience with, bringing what you learned from twitch over to other livestreams is almost second nature. Annoying? Yes. Disrespectful? Nah.
@@eszefvsdf ah yes, I can't understand the streamer so let's make it hard for the streamer to understand the chat so that everybody loses
Yeah I got the feeling that getting a bunch of comments in a language you dont understand would be annoying as hell if it happens consistently so I always try to stick to japanese as much as I can but I just dont know enough to comment anything other than 草, yabai or sugoi for the time being but now I get very self conscious whenever I am going to say anything in english and the thing with translate is that the time that it takes to translate what you want to say, it probably isnt relevant any more so it would only really be feasable for superchats plus you wouldnt even know if they responded to you because you wouldnt understand them. Language barrier is a bitch ;-;
Usually, Japanese chat likes to spam the same words when an event happens in the stream. You can copy and paste these common comments into google translate to find out what they mean. You can then save these words in notepad or something to use for references to give yourself more variety in things to say in chat. You could also just google translate what you want to say, just make sure to double check it so that when your sentence gets translated into Japanese, it retains the same meaning. Also, if the chat is going slow enough, you can actually google translate the entire chat.
Overseas fans on suicide warch boiis
Kagura Mea is like that one friend that's sassy as fuck but still fun to hang out with
Though the friend might smell bad.
Glad you made this clip, because I'm sure a lot of streamers from any country feel this way about foreign viewers but Mea is the only one brazen enough to say it. It's honestly annoying as a viewer too when the chat is full of people being creepy or rude
Yeah it annoys me so much that I couldn't watch the full video, but I understand the general concept anyway. I doubt it but I hope this doesnt affect Mea and she doesn't think all overseas (specifically english speaker) are this rude and bad
Those who's making the livestream a group chat is really stupid. I mean aside for those who translating what's Mea talking about live. Those who talks random sht and not relevant on the situation is really rude.
Just because the Chat isn't that crowd and not over flood with comments that doesn't mean its a right thing to just chat to other viewers.
@ｋｙｓ they dont listen either, I swear Id sometimes see comments replying to other people in chat
Guys, I understand, but try not to lambast these people and say there stupid. You guys should know that English streaming culture is very different from Japanese streaming culture, so you can’t necessarily fault them if they are newer English viewers who haven’t had the rules told to them. I’m not saying it isn’t rude or they are right, but just try understanding and politely telling these people to not talk about other things if you come across it! :)
@@jswpc9966 KEKW
For the rule: "please do not chat with other audiences..."
Do you mean, do not chat with other audience members?
Correct. Chat is for audience to interact with the streamer, talking to other audience members just makes everything hard to understand.
Except for the kind translators replying for subs during stream
This is some pretty packed Mea content lol, from her addressing English comments to checking translation clips, how people comment when someone act cutesy and suddenly disappearance of the English comments lol
I like Mea honesty on this, and I think it's the standard of what any Japanese Vtuber who doesn't speak any english would want for an oversea fan: "learn some japanese and please comment on japanese so I can understand you"
Thing is that while not impossible Japanese is really hard to learn, honestly I'd personally love to learn more of it and while my japanese is certainly rusty I've definitely learned some words like すばらしい。
I always have very mixed feelings on the overseas audience and Vtubers. Now mind you, I am a filthy foreigner and I don't actually speak Japanese either. I understand very rudamentary sentences and have to use google translate 90% of the time for anything written. But at least I try to get the gist of what a stream is about and what's going on however I can. Translate the stream title, translate some of the comments periodically, try to get a feel for what is going on. During chat streams I would mostly stay quiet and only occasionally react when it's obvious that something funny was said and everyone spams grass. Occasionally I try to use a translated Japanese phrase if I really feel like I can inform someone of something (especially smaller Vtubers).
The only times I feel comfortable making full English sentence comments is when the Vtuber is not really paying attention to the chat anyway (like during games) or when there is like an insane flow of comments and I get buried anyway. Sometimes making remarks on what's going on for other English readers who dont get it or talking about the game itself. Stuff that's on topic.
What I can't stand is when foreign viewers keep talking about irrelevant topics, have convos with each other as if it was a personal chatroom or constantly try to make the Vtuber "say something" or have a direct conversation with her... She doesn't understand you. Almost none of them do. And those who do tend to ignore English comments, because their main audience is Japanese and they dont always want to break the flow like that. And of course most of their questions show the insane disconnect that's going on because neither side understand the other. Vtuber talks about some interesting in depth topic and the comments say stuff like "How are you?" or "Can you speak Spanish?" and nonsense like that.
Speaking of Spanish people, those start flooding the comments too now... and many of them just want them to say swear words or acknowledge them. Ugh. At least it is semi-reasonable to believe that Japanese streamers know like... grade-school English, but I can gurantee you *they don't speak a lick of Spanish* .
And with the rapid growth that's happening, there is no way to properly teach these new audience members how it works. And many don't care either. As long as it fulfills their desire for attention and the novelty still hasnt worn off they will just bulldoze right through without any self-awareness. The worst is when someone tells them to read the rules and they feel *insulted* for the very idea that they have to follow them. They start calling people simps for daring to respect someone's wishes. It's toxic and pathetic.
It may sound like I am just pushing the problem away, but there *are* Vtubers that actively engage an English audience. Hololive ID & Nijisanji ID are all multi-lingual and can speak English. There are even some smaller American Vtubers like Kana Kimiko, who speak English exclusively. Wouldn't it be great to support someone who actually can interact with you? They can also tell you off directly, which really helps (lol). I am not saying to exclusively go to them, but damn it, the point of this whole business is to interact and understand each other. If you only watch them for the cuteness, then you can watch their translated clips, right? If you just wanna listen to their streams that's fine too. But this *non-interaction* both ways that just kinda inconveniences others has to be kept in check.
Thank you for this post. I wish more Western viewers were like you...
Yeah, the entitlement is real with those kinds of retards. I hope those ppl are just kids who never learned how to at least lurk before posting. Now, If they're an adult and still don't know common courtesy in a foreign environment....thats just sad.
@Clinical Depression Completely faulty reasoning. The platform is international and English is not the dominant language at all. That is why you can change your language setting to dozens of other languages and that's why you have Japanese, Spanish, Italian and Russian communities on this site. What actually decides which domain you enter is the TH-camr's channel . If they are Japanese, then you should have the common sense to treat it as a Japanese channel and only interact with them in the capacity that they are comfortable with.
You are the kind of problematic fan that feels entitled because "we help them grow" and "we donate money". That is not the point. You can do both of these things while healthily engaging and growing the fanbase with respect. These kinds of terrible comments flooding their chats is an active detriment to their work. There is no excuse for it.
The fact that you utterly miss every point I made for your delusional "You are the problem" counter-steering is frankly insulting. I am not the type to discuss this shit with people in chat. Why do you think I said that I almost never write anything in chat in the first place? I do block and report. That doesn't change the fact that this is a problem that exists. Your indifference helps noone.
You have managed to project at least 3 things onto me just out of sheer ignorance. I do not gatekeep, I do not think Western culture is inferior (the opposite is actually the case, I dont like Japanese culture in broad terms) and I literally gave several alternatives to learning Japanese. If you can't read, don't reply.
person: speaking japanese
chat: let's reply english
Mea sees us.
I think the main question for you as an english viewer/commenter is: do you _want_ the Vtuber to _understand_ you? If yes, you have 4 (?) options, in order of involvment:
1) Simple, short grade school english sentences or phrases (put through google translate for bonus).
2) Learn some typically used phrases such as "kawaii" and "kusa". (Romaji option)
3) Learn kana, get an IME and use that for phrases from (2). There are many free resources out there for this. Bonus if you learn specific kanji to use like 草.
-4) Actually learn Japanese-
That's not to say english comments are somehow worse. I'd argue that if the Vtuber can understand it, an english comment can show interest from overseas viewers. In Mea's case, she might not speak back in english, but clearly she has an interest since she's tried to read comments on translated clips.
If you don't care then, why even bother commenting lol?
The only english word she understands is Money and thats it
Has Mea played that English ‘learning’ game with the funny choice of words?🤣 if she hasn’t, I think that would be hilarious to see her reaction
i was expecting a flow of Superchat after Mea started acting cute lol XD
Though she doesn't know that if you learn English with your viewers , you can gain more money , like Korone did Lol
*Hey guys*
You really comment in every vtuber video huh
Wakatta, dakara totemo nihongo, demo waruina. Eigo o musukashi desu. America jin mo waruina hanashimasu. Suki de.
海外たちはほんとにせいそイドゥめあさんすきです
Mea is on to us, everyone, pretend to be fooled by the facade at the end of the video.
*gets clipped to* "If I don't read it's because I can't"
3:53 same mea but we're opposite, これはペンです
I actually LOL-ed at this.
1:56 no I dont think anyone would do that
The comment at 1:17 brings back good memories
that is a lot of English speaker showing up real quick when she started talking about she can't understand and read English. These people are hiding for real.
Now when she sees this one it will english-ception for her.
Man.. she made over $500 in less then 10 minutes. Dudes just throwing money at her and half of them don't have a clue what she is saying
Guess I’m being in twitch for too long and interacting with many peoples to find this strict.
4:33 she really sounds like Megumin.
the cute side of mea san scares me 🤣🤣
i been learning japanese for a month now to watch hololive/other vtuber but im still not confident with my japanese skill lol
I still have panic attacks when the smaller vtubers actually reply to my comments and end up missing half of what they said
*Our time has come...*
Why her twin tails swings like a pendulum
also l'd like to point out her font is not very good for english
I lost it when I read "Mea best dirty Vtuber"
I feel burn in the gap there. but I don't mind it's kinda refreshing at the same time 😂
I like that the English comments are just kinda talking between themselves
Its pretty annoying tbh
She actually motivated me to learn some super basic Japanese
We have been noticed...
私のGoogle翻訳の神聖な力を見よ！ かなり素晴らしいですよね？ 感動しましたね？
I generally don't comment on streams, feels really awkward to be the only eng there when I know the others don't speak eng + I don't speak jp so not a lot of point of me being in the stream live.
And I only really comment on a single vtubers actual videos just to show support, don't mind whether they read it or not and they don't generally reply to anyone commenting even in jp so it's no problem to me, though I do worry sometimes, ya know?
yes, that's it, she doesn't understand, don't comment, everyone happy
コメントが読めなくても大丈夫です！今翻訳中です
The only problem is that I tried to translate it but it doesn't make any fucking sense. I have to do it twice 1st translate it to Japanese and then translate it back to English to make sure I'm not saying garbage
I am assuming the english people left because they were getting strange looks not wearing headphones.
I dub this feeling I have 'Overseas Guilt'. May I cleanse it with a super chat 🙏
Mea: I know its hypocritical but-
Viewers: Say no more, I'll come back with a PhD
Mea I swear I would learn Japanese if it was that easy🤣🤣
Correct argument. Speaking English will not increase your audience. Nor will it increase superchat. Studying is a waste of time. I write comments in Japanese to Japanese and in English to English speakers. DeepL is very useful lol
The only vtuber I’ve ever seen who genuinely seems upset by the presence of English comments. I can understand people getting triggered by English comments spamming or otherwise not following the rules. But somehow I doubt all English comments are like that... but it’s her channel so if she doesn’t wanna see English comments fuck em. It’s not like English speakers have to watch her in the first place
Reason to learn japanese : SIMPING
lmfao i don't think i ever experienced a toxic community till i looked at this comment section.
I'm glad i never experienced this level of people being territorial with other vtubers :D note to self though....apparently i shouldn't type anything in english on a mea stream smfh
i love the fact that she said this in japanese. She could had throw a google translator and asked the fanbase to do the rest.(I actually love this facts).
Welp time to go study more Japanese just because Mea asked, I don't even think I know more than 20 kanji so I have a long way to go
This is a pen
I need to Learn both Spanish and Japanese.
Spanish to understand my defined and casual, “easy to get along with” grandma.
Japanese to understand Anime girls.
Lol good luck with that, no joking, the two hardest languages of the word.
Prepare to expend your whole live learning verbs
This why I really appreciate you translators. I love the silliness of the clips translated, but dont watch their streams or archives because I don't understand, unless they try an English-only challenge.
Glad HololiveEn is a thing now
I love how upset she gets once all the English viewers leave
Tsundere
yes
She's upset at the money leaving
6:30 oh jesus
what a gremlin
Solution, english comments can only send SC and viewers who understand send translation SCs. That’s what I would’ve said if I were Mea atleast
But anyway, is education of English in Japan really on such low level? I always thought that this whole 'engrish' and Japanese people speaking bad English was just a stereotype
Nah english is notoriously bad in japan, at least thats what I have read.
Bruh even in China and Korea people are much much better in English,
I know it from my experience
Wonder why... It's pretty weird for such an advanced country to suck at something so much
It's kinda weird...they don't know the basic english. Like,the basic level...and they are crazy in other areas. But for some weird reason they know nothing of english. Being pretty honest,is not the english speaking group fault to not understand...is kinda weird that the norm between japan and english is 'they don't know".
Japan have a very low emigration rate. Countries with high emigration rate tends to have their citizens learn the english language so they can move to western countries.
English tests in most japanese schools are based on memorization that`s why only those who hire personal tutors can speak english fluently because they can actually have someone correct their pronounciation. After graduating highschool, there`s really no need for english in japan except if someone wants to live in another country.
Im actually thinkiny that ppl started comenting in english just for trolling :v
I know more speaking japanese then writing japanese so when i write japanese using auto kanji im worried its the wrong symbol.
Its easyer to speak then write
Wouldn't this be way less of a problem if the english font wasn't so enormous?
2:20 isn't it because of Gap Moe?
Translator-san, what country are you from? How did you learn Japanese?
I'm currently a junior in US. college and I have takenJapanese for three semesters.
@@kagurameaenglishunofficial7177 I am currently studying Japanese. I can read to a certain extent. But I am very bad at listening or speaking. Any tips please?
I understand why she can't read it
The background color and text color are kinda similar and make it harder to read
Reigo Vassal 4444 Uh, im pretty sure that she reads it from youtube, not from that screen
So Mea is loli Jotaro without secretly being a genius. Cute lol
Some people in this comment section going like ''How disrespectful do you have to be to talk amongst yourselves'' have probably never interacted with a small streamer. The only people that even have the privilege to make a rule like that are big Vtubers that don't have to give a damn about viewer retention. Every smaller streamer, vtuber or not, tries to get the viewer to turn the stream into a personal hangout spot, because that's how you get people to come back. And that's not a twitch thing, that's as much a youtube streaming thing, or a facebook streaming thing, or a mixer streaming thing. If anyone is going to try and tell me that Japanese streamers, even with 2 viewers, enforce rules against talking amongst oneself then please enlighten me how Japanese streamers actually build a community and grow.
Is just as you said, some smaller vtubers don't have rules against that, for example Kureha kurono, as long as isn't off topic you can interact with others, but that's because is easy to follow the flow of comments, and also she can pay a bit attention to almost everyone but if her channel grows of course that kind of interaction would end and the rules will change
I actually watch a LOT of smaller streamers, but never start chatting like in discord on the chat. Unless its about a topic that the streamer is talking about
My opinion on the use of languages other than the main one used in the current context (be it a forum, chat, etc) is that it's akin to spam and should be outright banned, unless explicitly allowed within that community.
I remember when I was still learning English it would take me a few minutes to formulate any kind of coherent comment and I would usually have to make use of dictionaries and/or google translate. If you can't do at least that much, just keep it to yourself, nothing you have to say is that important anyway 👍
Ah yes. Because it’s really easy to learn a language you never speak for everyone.
@@nomad123ad It's not easy at all, how did you get that from my comment?
@@nomad123ad if you like a streamer enough to want to talk, then at least put in some effort to learn the language. Might take a while, but in the end you might gain a new useful skill along the way.
Plus, theres a shit ton of free resources to learn Jpn.
So, otherwise, just admit you're lazy lmao.
Lol the only reason I would learn the Japanese language is because of manga books or hentai doujinshi that won't get translations.
English people can add that to the list of requirements to be her husband, learn Japanese !
3:23
That one comment: _im sorry I only speak Japanese_
Also that one comment: *{says it in English}*
read it again.
Other Vtubers: I should learn english to speak with the foreign fans
200IQ MEA: YOU should learn japanese so you can watch my streams and SIMP for me
This wont stop me cause I cant speak Japanese
I love a girl who knows what she wants! Money? Girl I got that! Dont worry!
This isn't surprising coming from the *All American Girl*
Its funny how the english commenters decided to troll Mea by not commenting when she acted cutesy... they know full well who they are there to watch
No but seriously, it was pretty weird
@@Marxist-Nixonist-Bidenist It was probably cause it was translated in the chat that she would prefer comments in Japanese because she can't read English, then people stopped making so many comments.
@@GaijinDT oh, right
Oh good. Permission to troll, get!
I wish I am good enough to learn Japanese... too bad