Turning Without Turn - MiG-3-15 Energy Fighting

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  • @kingghidorah8106
    @kingghidorah8106 3 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    I love how Defyn speaks more chill when he's talking about low tier victims but goes berserk when he's at difficult ranks

    • @DEFYN
      @DEFYN  3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      It's because this gameplay is a month old
      Instead of just getting done with a garbage plane like the mig23 and instantly making a video while i am still pissed

  • @kolos0139
    @kolos0139 3 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    Ah, thank you, DEFYN, the "how to survive after you fucked up your first BnZ pass guide", is just what I needed! (I know this could come off as a bit sarcastic, but I genuenly mean it.)

    • @furinick
      @furinick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      knowing how to unfuck yourself is important

    • @dsdy1205
      @dsdy1205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      No lie, when I figured out that my deaths were due to zero gameplans for "I miss my shot" my efficiency skyrocketed

    • @allancoelho6905
      @allancoelho6905 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's just how any game on this mig goes tbh

    • @runakovacs4759
      @runakovacs4759 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@allancoelho6905 The F-84B feels similar in "have a breakaway plan, dont linger"

  • @j.r.2087
    @j.r.2087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    DEFYNS voice sounds happy and sad at the same time. Or actually it sounds like he enjoys talking 😀

  • @RpeteG96
    @RpeteG96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Literally have improved my Air RB Capabilities Tenfold from watching you Defyn, and I’ve been playing for a solid 3 years. Thanks for all you do brother, you deserve so much more recognition. You’re content has so much to learn from its uncanny. YOU DA BEST MAYNE!

  • @danaolsongaming
    @danaolsongaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    For fellow MiG pilots: this is how you should be flying your 15s and 17s against Sabers. Even if they're faster than you, as long as you have a decent amount of speed/energy putting it into a spiral climb will bait them into following you and draining all their energy, and when they stall you'll still be going strong. At that point they'll never be able to get you off their tail.

  • @johnathancooper3897
    @johnathancooper3897 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    If they added MiG-3 with AM-38F it would turn like a Spitfire but only at medium speeds. It's a universal rule for most MiGs and alike aircrafts that very low speed turns are sluggish and high speed turns are not great.

  • @jtofgc
    @jtofgc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    Bro you're letting the secret out. The plane is only still at 1.7 because no one knows how to fly it. If you teach people they're gonna uptier it lol.

    • @ryanjonathanmartin3933
      @ryanjonathanmartin3933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      AHAHAHAHA so true

    • @IosifStalinsendsyoutoGulag
      @IosifStalinsendsyoutoGulag 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well

    • @cola-warthunder
      @cola-warthunder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Exactly what happened lol. Still a strong plane at 2.3 though

    • @oniceguard9205
      @oniceguard9205 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@cola-warthunder mig 3-34 is my fav, no one can run of me and no one can reach me

    • @zaogames4875
      @zaogames4875 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i left war thunder for a year and a half and then i found my fav low tier at 2.3...

  • @GMan33195
    @GMan33195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ah perfect a DEFYN vid comes out right during my lunch break. MiG-3-15 is one of my fav low tier props.

  • @thesaracen7267
    @thesaracen7267 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Rat Plane?????? Nice kill on the Ki-43 btw, that was really nice flying!

    • @affrajam1816
      @affrajam1816 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      yeah that was actually a great fight to demonstrate because the ki-43 is such a ufo

  • @МаксимМороз-у3л
    @МаксимМороз-у3л 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love your videos on low BR props. This one is not exception, thank you! BTW, during the war a lot of pilots switched to MiG-3 from I-16 and I-153. And they tried to fly it in a similar way. Therefore, in some war memoirs MiG-3 was mentioned as an airplane with poor characteristics. But seems like they simply used it wrong.

    • @roadent217
      @roadent217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Considering how difficult it is to learn the plane's characteristics when playing War Thunder, when you're not under the pressure of "I'm gonna die!", it makes you wonder just how bad the majority of pilots in WW2 were. No wonder the few aces that did _get it,_ like Adolf Galland, managed to shoot down about a hundred enemy planes each.

    • @МаксимМороз-у3л
      @МаксимМороз-у3л 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roadent217 I agree, except for german "aces" statistics. Most of their victories doesn mean the enemy aircraft destroyed. Soviet pilots had way more strict requirements for victory confirmation, including the evidence of wrecks from ground troops. Therefore, if I see the 200+ tally - it may be surely dividen on 2. Or 4. Or even 10.

    • @wyvern7567
      @wyvern7567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In the war the mig 3 was facing late 109Es and 109F series. Far more dangerous opponents than J20, J11 and P36.

    • @МаксимМороз-у3л
      @МаксимМороз-у3л 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wyvern7567 and this fact, as well.

  • @john_808_za9
    @john_808_za9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Anticipating that Ta-154 gameplay :D

  • @josephstalin8684
    @josephstalin8684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Perfect timing I was just trying to learn energy fighting, very helpful

  • @Shot5hells
    @Shot5hells 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very helpful, I have been struggling with the migs and laggs vs the yaks, but this gives a good indication of the fighting style

  • @funi_chest
    @funi_chest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    great video. i skipped the 15 and went to the 34. will go back to this seems rlly fun. nice one against the ki43

    • @funi_chest
      @funi_chest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @GODSGENERAL knowing how wt's going for me rn; fun would be nice lmfao

    • @_GODSFIGHTER
      @_GODSFIGHTER 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@funi_chestlmao I don't remember my old account replying to this comment

  • @rednax6955
    @rednax6955 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    its like flying a jet against superprops

  • @rm2569
    @rm2569 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah the mig3 and the lag 3 66 are what i really learned Energy fighting in some 6 years ago. Still are veyr fun planes in SIM EC too.

  • @DavidGarcia-fe7lv
    @DavidGarcia-fe7lv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is DEFYN video masterclass, not only does it teach you energy fighting with wonderful examples, more importantly it provides a plane to practice this on your own which is easy to get to. Wonderful video sir

  • @wagadamegumi5707
    @wagadamegumi5707 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Mig-3 literally my worst nightmare

    • @dabonker1065
      @dabonker1065 ปีที่แล้ว

      man those canons slaps now

  • @eccy269026
    @eccy269026 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    mate i have learnt so much from your videos im still a noob as far as planes go i have 1600h in tank gameplay and decided to move to planes for a bit , i never enjoyed the planes because i was trash and got owned all the time , learning planes is a steep learn curve , thanks for speaking your thought process it helps more than you could imagine. cheers bro

  • @quinnroach2557
    @quinnroach2557 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks man. This things a beast with the right pilot

  • @blacktail522
    @blacktail522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I discovered this little gem recently. Some amazing dogfights in this thing.

  • @danielcamacho1913
    @danielcamacho1913 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now that Gaijin raised its BR to 2.3, I got up-tiered *every* time I played it, and my MiG-3 was practically useless against P-63s and Bf 109 F 🙁

  • @0Boogiee0
    @0Boogiee0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best Energy fighting for beginners i have seen on TH-cam. Hats off to you sir.

  • @j.r.2087
    @j.r.2087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3:38 i have the feeling there was some salt here😂

  • @victor_bs06
    @victor_bs06 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video, im new at WT and your guides and videos are AMAZING for me,
    good job and keep it up, you're great :3

  • @giannism1371
    @giannism1371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey DEFYN! Nice video! May I ask how did you choose your name? I can't figure out if it means something

  • @gliderfs621
    @gliderfs621 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I fought against two Spitfires in a game today using your teachings and won against both in energy fight. Thank you DEFYN !

  • @andrewmandrona7891
    @andrewmandrona7891 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So, one thing I've never completely figured out is how to 1v1 planes with a better climb rate _and_ a better turn rate (i.e. the entire Japanese tree after about 3.0).

    • @evanmurphy6640
      @evanmurphy6640 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Boom and zoom, fly level and gain enough separation to climb away

    • @cola-warthunder
      @cola-warthunder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Make them dive on you, turn inside them to make the dive steeper, when they compress and go back up you have to follow and shoot them down. In case you miss, good luck.

  • @legoguy23451
    @legoguy23451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love when planes burst into flames, especially at the lower ranks. so cinematic...

  • @Shaunplaywartunder
    @Shaunplaywartunder ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for educating me about it

  • @kocurowskyy39
    @kocurowskyy39 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This plane looks like he could beat spitfire in dogfight but reality is brutal at least as well as he is at his br

  • @apiece_
    @apiece_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mig video mig video!

  • @Chavylifts
    @Chavylifts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is how I learned with this plane

  • @Podsy
    @Podsy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Maybe Tempest MK II gameplay? It's a nice counterpart to Ta 152s.

  • @arandomdude
    @arandomdude 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The mig 3 at 1.7 barely turns soo its a disadvantage but the one at 2.7 is pretty good

  • @ovencore2549
    @ovencore2549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    it sucks now since it got bumped up to 2.7 in rb

  • @InvictaR6
    @InvictaR6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I can't wait to start grinding the Russian tech tree 🙌🏽

  • @FishbedFive
    @FishbedFive 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The MiG-3 was made as a high altitude fighter, and was supposed to be used as such, and in my opinion it should be used as a sort of dive-fighter. Get the altitude advantage, knock out the planes at your altitude, and keep going lower and lower, knocking out aircraft doing as such. If you do a loop do not pull up. Invert and do the loop upside-down. I haven't tried this strategy in the MiG-3 but it works very well in the P-51 and it's sister aircraft, the A-36.

  • @SpiritumTimoris
    @SpiritumTimoris 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As someone who is a local War Thunder shitter, videos like this that tell me I'm not great but actually try to help instead of yelling "REEEEE" are what I live for

  • @damocles8159
    @damocles8159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The he100 D-1 is imo also well suited for learning/practicing this

  • @chris_hisss
    @chris_hisss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice lesson here! Now while you did fight the KI-43, how do you deal with CW-21? Especially on how to approach climb ins, as at the start of the match, especially at lower ranks, you see who climbed and who didn't, and ofc who ever is higher first often will attack the other. Also, I often am just down there because I want to spade planes so I most likely have stock syndrome so it will make things harder. I have been trying to climb to a 90 degrees of the front line so that I can observe what happens first, just about in any plane, but that also can lead to me being last one on team or the one with no kills, so climb in approach is really tricky for me. Thanks!

  • @apolakigamingandmore6376
    @apolakigamingandmore6376 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how he is roasting and trash talking the enemies, because on how easy it is in his part, lol!!! Good job, tho!!! Now, time to fly this baby tomorrow with my free Talisman.

  • @thisguyyyyyyy2723
    @thisguyyyyyyy2723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:07 Damn they already added the B-36? And at such a low BR?! Crazy lmao

  • @RolandNSI
    @RolandNSI 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg, omg, you are using the same decal as me ! Wings with sword over the turkish roundel . N.1

  • @viruspter1dactl
    @viruspter1dactl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always get uptierd so mug 3 turns fine with other planes :))

  • @gliderfs621
    @gliderfs621 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got the feeling that Gaijin actually nerfed a bit the ShKAS and Berezin machine guns.

  • @chuongnguyen2227
    @chuongnguyen2227 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    it feels like I'm learning physics and dynamycis

  • @ryanbowers1502
    @ryanbowers1502 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey DEFYN, can you play the CL-13B in the current 9.7 matchmaker?

  • @solidsnake8330
    @solidsnake8330 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The MiG-3-15 is my favorite prop that I'm best at. I even take it to higher tiers and get a handful of kills per game.

  • @bran6374
    @bran6374 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thought there was gonna be a link to a video how to attempt energy fighting or how to energy fight? It said/Defyn sain there would be a link to energy fighting how to.

  • @EmiGamEEr222
    @EmiGamEEr222 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey DEFYN, could you do a video with A32?

  • @pedromedeiros4955
    @pedromedeiros4955 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this the best variant of the mig-3 to learn how to energy fight? Because there's 3 variants of the mig-3 and there are even on the same br.

  • @justinw.7045
    @justinw.7045 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    MiG-3-15(BK) is my stress relief.

  • @edwardblomstrand7203
    @edwardblomstrand7203 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seal clubbing for science. Good lesson.

  • @TheFlametroll
    @TheFlametroll 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    DEFYN, can you do a top 10 of your favorite aircraft?

  • @TheFunnyGuy-wc6kp
    @TheFunnyGuy-wc6kp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey could you do a vid on its Mig 3 34 counterpart?

  • @bran6374
    @bran6374 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ya idk about that thing that was said that a lot of the low BR players dont know what they are doing but i find theres alot of clubbers in these low BR planes

  • @rifwann
    @rifwann 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for giving yourself a flaw..

  • @murderinmurphy6501
    @murderinmurphy6501 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:38 all of a sudden you’re leaking oil 😂

  • @alexeyaviator8600
    @alexeyaviator8600 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mig-3 turned very well in reality, despite it was an interceptor

  • @johnhowe1501
    @johnhowe1501 ปีที่แล้ว

    So my Mig 3 must have an engine problem cause I swear I stall out after climbing at more than a 5° angle for 5 seconds

  • @_GODSFIGHTER
    @_GODSFIGHTER 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Abysmal turn rate but it fights 2.0s so ill take it unless I'm fighting p39Ns or p-38s

  • @onyourkilllist6880
    @onyourkilllist6880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *_TL:DW? Learn how to Chandelle, learn how to pop landing flaps, learn how to shoot!_*

  • @Siddich
    @Siddich 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    DEFYN, why you smokin? 🤔😜

  • @betaripoff
    @betaripoff 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doing these energy tactics is even easier on any spitfire after the mk.1, since it has a better climb rate and overall performance. Though don’t try doing so above 5km.

    • @kalumbailey5103
      @kalumbailey5103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Better to do it with the 5.7 griffon engined one, the merlin one has no energy retention (but is the best overall relatively) and the higher br griffons face super props or jets every game so you have to turnfight. 2nd Seafire is best for it but it's a brick (most good energy fighters are tbf.) And if you're in a spit you should always be above 5km, up there you out-turn everything and if you get on or near the ass of a p-51 ,p47, 190 or 152 they can't do anything because they can't turn that high and if they try their speed jumps out the window, and they can't dive because a griffon will keep up long enough to kill/crit them.

  • @fishbucket8607
    @fishbucket8607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Play the Seafire FR 47, but without any modifications and suffer

  • @hellcatrunner1989
    @hellcatrunner1989 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm guessing you didn't use the MiG-3-15BK either because it's slightly heavier or just to not brutalize everything in a single pass with the 4 12.7mm guns xD

  • @uIfsark
    @uIfsark 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sideclimb to 6k or lose is the definition of mig-3-15. Even a fucking havoc is better

  • @gliderfs621
    @gliderfs621 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Low-medium tier planes are the most fun to play with in War Thunder. Top tier are top garbages.

  • @waterjuice332
    @waterjuice332 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please play the MB.5, Defyn!

  • @pranavarvind4281
    @pranavarvind4281 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This plane is ridiculous at 1.7. It's faster than almost everything it meets and has an airspawn.

  • @Burboss
    @Burboss 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my best KD (5:1) ratios was achieved in this plane.

    • @erikhendrych190
      @erikhendrych190 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't it 5:1? Because kill to death ratio not death to kill. I hope you don't die 5 times for every kill in one of your best planes.

    • @Burboss
      @Burboss 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@erikhendrych190 yes it is )

  • @gstabletop5766
    @gstabletop5766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is it pronounced de fin or de fine

  • @nalcij
    @nalcij ปีที่แล้ว

    The russian 20mm are amazing, you just gotta aim carefully

    • @nalcij
      @nalcij ปีที่แล้ว

      Ive gotten 5-8 kill games with the mig-3 it’s a great high altitude fighter horrible low altitude

  • @AerialAntics
    @AerialAntics ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro how you look on enemy and you still can control your plane? If i put mouse look activation on ALT i can look around with mouse , but i cant control my plane ... help please!

    • @Янус_Ырт
      @Янус_Ырт 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can still use WASD while holding alt

  • @yousofdaker2717
    @yousofdaker2717 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    can u make a vid for la 200 plz

  • @grum__1
    @grum__1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you know the discord link doesnt work right?

  • @boiiifuaintcare8629
    @boiiifuaintcare8629 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Noice

  • @kierbautista3360
    @kierbautista3360 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The BK one is probably more favorite than this one. Sure the BK has worse turn than this but can retain more energy.

  • @swisscheese9540
    @swisscheese9540 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, How do pull out landing flaps without pulling out gear?

  • @sextonanalysts265
    @sextonanalysts265 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you're just getting the mig 3 or any of them right now, it fucking sucks lol

  • @Josh-wr3sc
    @Josh-wr3sc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought that the mig was cool and very good turn speed intil I tried it

  • @Grummpy_1
    @Grummpy_1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Play the spitfire lf mk9

  • @threemountainsgaming7560
    @threemountainsgaming7560 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So that's the reason i see a lot of these planes lately...
    Thankfully, most of them are severely lacking in skill so they are just another easy kill for my P-400s and Spitfires :)

  • @kierbautista3360
    @kierbautista3360 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fave low br plane ;)

  • @Bubuchga
    @Bubuchga 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh yea

  • @swety2962
    @swety2962 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The discord link doesn't work

    • @zUnderscore
      @zUnderscore 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      discord.gg/tMJ2Xs29Qn
      try this

  • @josippetkovic389
    @josippetkovic389 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes daddy

  • @prodabber0222
    @prodabber0222 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:50 tho lol

  • @Swat_Dennis
    @Swat_Dennis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh man, this plane is still so much bs because of that airspawn
    Thanks for messing up lower tiers again

  • @gamerboi5651
    @gamerboi5651 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ing

  • @jercki72
    @jercki72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not very good guns? O.o I mean yea the turn is ass and it's not very easy to aim with this flight model but idk about not very good guns.

    • @DEFYN
      @DEFYN  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The berezin is better in higher tiers
      The planes you shoot have very small fuel tanks in general
      You don't really set people on fire unless you really try to aim for one

  • @Taffaff
    @Taffaff 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    do tempy 2 reee

  • @francescocola7935
    @francescocola7935 ปีที่แล้ว

    fun fact: mig 3 has less turnrate than a pe 8, i shit you not try it in a duel

  • @ironchicken7240
    @ironchicken7240 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alternate Title: Making newbies quit war thunder

  • @derekturner3272
    @derekturner3272 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you shoot a wounded plane, it's just another kill. If someone else shoots a plane you wounded, it's a "stolen kill"... Sorry, but this bugs the crap out of me when watching your otherwise great videos.