@@LearnHittiteBut why do you and many other y-tubers always insist on using a very aweful racial slur against us when describing us or our languages? We are called imazighen. There's no way anyone who would take the time to research our culture and history wouldn't know this. And the languages are called thamazight and in some sublanguages even tmazirth. But mostly thamazight. Why call us savages when you know very well that the real savages [romans, greeks and pan-arabists] love to use that term as a [humiliation tactic] against us on purpose?
But why do you and many other y-tubers always insist on using a very aweful racial slur against us when describing us or our languages? We are called imazighen. There's no way anyone who would take the time to research our culture and history wouldn't know this. And the languages are called thamazight and in some sublanguages even tmazirth. But mostly thamazight. Why call us savages when you know very well that the real savages [romans, greeks and pan-arabists] love to use that term as a [humiliation tactic] against us on purpose?
I'd like to see more research done into the connection between Afroasiatic languages and Indo-European. There are obvious similarities between pronouns and number names, as well as hundreds of seemingly shared roots.
at 12:30 the Chaker 200 is a wordlist of basic vocabulary and the % refer to the loanwords from Arabic. Lameen Souag has done some great work also on loan words in Berber, check some of the work out 👍.
Yeah, they whole language family is interesting but I got to admit that the Tuareg braches are particularly curious. I guess for me, as a linguist, it's the fact that they borrowed significantly less vocab than other Amazigh varieties. Tuareg languages definitely need more study and some modern language learning materials.
@@LearnHittiteBut why do you and many other y-tubers always insist on using a very aweful racial slur against us when describing us or our languages? We are called imazighen. There's no way anyone who would take the time to research our culture and history wouldn't know this. And the languages are called thamazight and in some sublanguages even tmazirth. But mostly thamazight. Why call us savages when you know very well that the real savages [romans, greeks and pan-arabists] love to use that term as a [humiliation tactic] against us on purpose?
@@LearnHittiteBut why do you and many other y-tubers always insist on using a very aweful racial slur against us when describing us or our languages? We are called imazighen. There's no way anyone who would take the time to research our culture and history wouldn't know this. And the languages are called thamazight and in some sublanguages even tmazirth. But mostly thamazight. Why call us savages when you know very well that the real savages [romans, greeks and pan-arabists] love to use that term as a [humiliation tactic] against us on purpose?
Great introduction to an undersung branch of Afroasiatic. Interesting how “Ghadamès” looks like a plausible phonetic evolution of “Garamantes,” a monumental culture which were neighbours to the Romans. Besides those, I think the original _Afri_ were an Amazigh tribe, as well, and it looks like that name could structurally be even a modern Amazigh ethnonym...
According to Théophile Obenga, there is no such thing as an "afro-asiatic" language, this makes our language (Tamazight) something else now since clearly according to his paper, and convincingly, that theory is out of the window. Essentially there is no evidence it even existed, especially not one as stark as the one for Proto-Indo-European. My own speculation now, and this is based on two factors, is that Berber is an evolved, pre-Indo-European, Iberian farmer language that was brought by the Cardial ware people. The first factor backing up this speculation is that the average Amazigh today scores anywhere from 35-45% Anatolian farmer DNA which was brought by Iberian migrants of the Cardial ware culture of Mediterranean Europe, and which decreased since its introduction, it was much higher at 50% (Fregel et al. 2018). These Cardial ware people introduced farming to Berbers 7000 years ago, they are the MAJOR neolithizers of North Africa, so how do you imagine communication would have gone between these new farmers from the North, and Iberomaurusians (Berber Hunter Gatherers) whom they mixed with? 35 to 45% Anatolian farmer DNA is an ancestry average that is closer to what a Basque scores than what a Germanic, Slavic, or Finnic person would, and this brings me to my second factor: These Basques are also a people who do not speak an Indo-European language but rather one that is suggested to be a relic from their Iberian farmer ancestors, the crazy part? It's extremely similar to the Turareg language (asignoret.free.fr/bsktwa.html ) which is regarded as "Proto-Berber" by scholars. Basques have the highest concentration of RH- blood, seconded by Berbers of the Atlas mountains. So the two main factors are linguistic and genetic. I'm not a scientist or anything so take this with a grain of salt or maybe not once you realize that the female Farmers who taught the male Hunter Gather husbands how to sow and reap would have needed to communicate with them somehow. I say that because the Berber lineages are paternally indigenous (E1b1b1) while maternally, they refer to those Cardial ware people, which means there must have been some sort of massacring of the Farmer men and a subsequent assimilation of their wives.
Look at the Usko-Mediterranean languages, talked by the "Usko-Mediterranean peoples". Extant languages of this group are Basque (related or very similar to old Iberian-Tartessian), North African Berber and Caucasus languages; dead Usko-Mediterranean languages are for example ancient Iberian-Tartessian, Etruscan, Minoan Lineal A, Hittite and other Mediterranean ones. Caucasus languages were included within the ancient Dene-Caucasian group of languages (Basques, Caucasians, Athabaskans, Apache Navajo, etc. They all may have a common origin coming from Sahara/Canary Islands/Iberia Cultural Prehistoric Circle .
@@vladimirsuznjevic5342 That's crazy good input, very insightful and I'm kind of embarrassed that through all of my years of research, I haven't come across this. Thank you. I expect nothing less from a Slav anyway hahaha.
You should read several research including Christopher Ehret. Proto-Berber came from the Horn, as a daughter language to proto-Eritrea. It would have been modified when said proto-Berber people met with the Mediterranean cultures living in North Africa at that time.
Very interesting! Loans words from Arabic or French to Tamazight languages is essentially due the prestige of Arabic as the language of Islam, Koran and PARADISE for the pious. French is or was seen as that of the powerful, modern, science and technology. It is a shame that in the name of Islam Tamazight is scorned and undervalued as a language. At schools, mosques and state institutions people of authority treat Tamazight with contempt. Often, Amazigh speakers themselves in cities refrain from expressing themselves in their natural language for fear of derogatory or offensive comments …
Thanks for your effort. It might be interesting to see some structural features (like a list of possesives) to judge how similar it is to arabic, like kitabi, kitabuki, kitabuke etc..
Hey, great video! I'm interested about the tamazight teacher you mentionned, is there a way to contact him? And is he teaching tachlhit or another amazigh language?
That’s simply not true as the %41.7 of the loanwords found in the study are from the Arabic dialect spoken in parts of Morocco. This dialect in itself has Riffian and other Amazigh languages’ loanwords.
@@KllaasKllff Darija has less foreign loanwords than Riffian. The loanwords that are detected in Riffian are classified as Arabic by academic linguistic scholars, if those loanwords where of Amazigh origin that came from Darija than they would classify it as Amazigh
@@Revitalization4241darrija is a mix between tamazight and arabic 😂 it has a lot of amazigh words that is why other arabs don't understand darrija , riffian has not a lot of arabic words , i'm riffian and i comfirm that
In the original version of the video there was a mistake at around 14:14. It's been edited out now 👍 Big thanks to all the people who pointed it out! 'Tanmirt' is thank you, not please 🤦
Bravo 👌 I'm Amzigh from Morocco 🇲🇦 and I speak tachlhit. ⵜⵉⴼⴰⵡⵉⵏ ⴰⵢⵛⵍⵃⵉⵏ ⵜⵣⵔⴰⵎ ⵜⴰⴱⴰⵄⵎⵔⴰⵏⵜ ⴰⵍⵉⵖⵜⵏⴰ " ⵎⴰⵏⵉⴽ ⵔⴰⴷⵙⴽⵔⵖ ⵉⵛⵍⵓⵃ ⴰⴷⴳⵏ ⵉⵎⴰⵣⵉⵖⵏ "ⴰⵙⵙⵓⵍ ⵓⵔⵜⵃⴳⴰⵔⵎ ⵉⴳⵢⴰⵏⵓⵏ ⵖⵍⴳⴷⴷⴰⵎ ⵏⵎⵉⴷⵏ . ⵜⴰⵡⵊⴰ ⵏ ⵉⵎⴰⵣⵉⵖⵏ ✊
Thank you! I tried my best with this video. Fantastic language and Amazing people!
@@LearnHittite I really appreciate it thank you so much and welcome to Agadir for anytime ❤️🙏
@@LearnHittiteBut why do you and many other y-tubers always insist on using a very aweful racial slur against us when describing us or our languages?
We are called imazighen. There's no way anyone who would take the time to research our culture and history wouldn't know this.
And the languages are called thamazight and in some sublanguages even tmazirth. But mostly thamazight.
Why call us savages when you know very well that the real savages [romans, greeks and pan-arabists] love to use that term as a [humiliation tactic] against us on purpose?
But why do you and many other y-tubers always insist on using a very aweful racial slur against us when describing us or our languages?
We are called imazighen. There's no way anyone who would take the time to research our culture and history wouldn't know this.
And the languages are called thamazight and in some sublanguages even tmazirth. But mostly thamazight.
Why call us savages when you know very well that the real savages [romans, greeks and pan-arabists] love to use that term as a [humiliation tactic] against us on purpose?
I'd like to see more research done into the connection between Afroasiatic languages and Indo-European. There are obvious similarities between pronouns and number names, as well as hundreds of seemingly shared roots.
More research is always a good thing...especially regarding proto languages.
We need to visit Kabylia region in Algeria , one of the strongest Berber community ! Absolutely interesting ~
Respect the kabylians hope you guys gain independence from the Arabs
بربري زواوي كلبون😂😂😂@@xenebidule9422
at 12:30 the Chaker 200 is a wordlist of basic vocabulary and the % refer to the loanwords from Arabic. Lameen Souag has done some great work also on loan words in Berber, check some of the work out 👍.
I got interested in Tuareg culture(s) very recently, what a coincidence!
Yeah, they whole language family is interesting but I got to admit that the Tuareg braches are particularly curious. I guess for me, as a linguist, it's the fact that they borrowed significantly less vocab than other Amazigh varieties. Tuareg languages definitely need more study and some modern language learning materials.
@@LearnHittite Tuareg did borrowed alot from Songhai
@@Revitalization4241must be mostly the ones living in Niger
@@LearnHittiteBut why do you and many other y-tubers always insist on using a very aweful racial slur against us when describing us or our languages?
We are called imazighen. There's no way anyone who would take the time to research our culture and history wouldn't know this.
And the languages are called thamazight and in some sublanguages even tmazirth. But mostly thamazight.
Why call us savages when you know very well that the real savages [romans, greeks and pan-arabists] love to use that term as a [humiliation tactic] against us on purpose?
@@LearnHittiteBut why do you and many other y-tubers always insist on using a very aweful racial slur against us when describing us or our languages?
We are called imazighen. There's no way anyone who would take the time to research our culture and history wouldn't know this.
And the languages are called thamazight and in some sublanguages even tmazirth. But mostly thamazight.
Why call us savages when you know very well that the real savages [romans, greeks and pan-arabists] love to use that term as a [humiliation tactic] against us on purpose?
Azul from atlas mountains
Azul!
@@LearnHittite Azul from agadir ❤🇲🇦 and ( thanks = tanmmirt = ⵜⴰⵏⵎⵎⵉⵔⵜ )
Great introduction to an undersung branch of Afroasiatic. Interesting how “Ghadamès” looks like a plausible phonetic evolution of “Garamantes,” a monumental culture which were neighbours to the Romans. Besides those, I think the original _Afri_ were an Amazigh tribe, as well, and it looks like that name could structurally be even a modern Amazigh ethnonym...
Yeah definitely undersung. Thanks for the headsup on 'Afri', I had no idea, reading up on it now.
Afri , ifri, it means, cave of course they were.
Garamantes it came from ighrman which means towns, ghadames was called by the Romans Caidamussi i think.
Thank you got the informative video
Glad it was helpful!
Brilliant presentation!
Thank you!
According to Théophile Obenga, there is no such thing as an "afro-asiatic" language, this makes our language (Tamazight) something else now since clearly according to his paper, and convincingly, that theory is out of the window. Essentially there is no evidence it even existed, especially not one as stark as the one for Proto-Indo-European. My own speculation now, and this is based on two factors, is that Berber is an evolved, pre-Indo-European, Iberian farmer language that was brought by the Cardial ware people. The first factor backing up this speculation is that the average Amazigh today scores anywhere from 35-45% Anatolian farmer DNA which was brought by Iberian migrants of the Cardial ware culture of Mediterranean Europe, and which decreased since its introduction, it was much higher at 50% (Fregel et al. 2018). These Cardial ware people introduced farming to Berbers 7000 years ago, they are the MAJOR neolithizers of North Africa, so how do you imagine communication would have gone between these new farmers from the North, and Iberomaurusians (Berber Hunter Gatherers) whom they mixed with? 35 to 45% Anatolian farmer DNA is an ancestry average that is closer to what a Basque scores than what a Germanic, Slavic, or Finnic person would, and this brings me to my second factor: These Basques are also a people who do not speak an Indo-European language but rather one that is suggested to be a relic from their Iberian farmer ancestors, the crazy part? It's extremely similar to the Turareg language (asignoret.free.fr/bsktwa.html ) which is regarded as "Proto-Berber" by scholars. Basques have the highest concentration of RH- blood, seconded by Berbers of the Atlas mountains. So the two main factors are linguistic and genetic. I'm not a scientist or anything so take this with a grain of salt or maybe not once you realize that the female Farmers who taught the male Hunter Gather husbands how to sow and reap would have needed to communicate with them somehow. I say that because the Berber lineages are paternally indigenous (E1b1b1) while maternally, they refer to those Cardial ware people, which means there must have been some sort of massacring of the Farmer men and a subsequent assimilation of their wives.
Look at the Usko-Mediterranean languages, talked by the "Usko-Mediterranean peoples". Extant languages of this group are Basque (related or very similar to old Iberian-Tartessian), North African Berber and Caucasus languages; dead Usko-Mediterranean languages are for example ancient Iberian-Tartessian, Etruscan, Minoan Lineal A, Hittite and other Mediterranean ones. Caucasus languages were included within the ancient Dene-Caucasian group of languages (Basques, Caucasians, Athabaskans, Apache Navajo, etc. They all may have a common origin coming from Sahara/Canary Islands/Iberia Cultural Prehistoric Circle .
@@vladimirsuznjevic5342 That's crazy good input, very insightful and I'm kind of embarrassed that through all of my years of research, I haven't come across this. Thank you. I expect nothing less from a Slav anyway hahaha.
You should read several research including Christopher Ehret. Proto-Berber came from the Horn, as a daughter language to proto-Eritrea. It would have been modified when said proto-Berber people met with the Mediterranean cultures living in North Africa at that time.
Very interesting! Loans words from Arabic or French to Tamazight languages is essentially due the prestige of Arabic as the language of Islam, Koran and PARADISE for the pious. French is or was seen as that of the powerful, modern, science and technology. It is a shame that in the name of Islam Tamazight is scorned and undervalued as a language. At schools, mosques and state institutions people of authority treat Tamazight with contempt.
Often, Amazigh speakers themselves in cities refrain from expressing themselves in their natural language for fear of derogatory or offensive comments …
Great video brother you also have to visit the rif region. Al Hoceima is really beautiful
For sure I will, thanks for the comment bro
انا من اكادير احب الحسيمة وناظور
Thanks for your effort. It might be interesting to see some structural features (like a list of possesives) to judge how similar it is to arabic, like kitabi, kitabuki, kitabuke etc..
Yeap, great suggestion thanks!
@@Aderfi-ip3seThanks..
I wonder, what makes a language afro asiatic?
same here..
Rien à voir complètement différent, ne pas se référer au darija ou à des mots ajoutaient tardivement
We are not berber But We Are Amazighan Nation.
Thank you for the informations mate i'm a native Taclḥit speaker
Interesting video, the channel ilovelanguages has many spoken video's about this language group
Yes they do!
Many Nordic dialects have been influenced more by Latin in Tunisia even by Punic
Interesting!
You deserve a Thank You !
Thank you too!
Hey, great video! I'm interested about the tamazight teacher you mentionned, is there a way to contact him? And is he teaching tachlhit or another amazigh language?
Thanks for the feedback, email me at learnhittite at gmail.com
♓️❤️🇲🇦👑
Riffian is almost not a Amazigh based language anymore, more than 50% is not of Amazigh origin
That’s simply not true as the %41.7 of the loanwords found in the study are from the Arabic dialect spoken in parts of Morocco.
This dialect in itself has Riffian and other Amazigh languages’ loanwords.
@@KllaasKllff Darija has less foreign loanwords than Riffian. The loanwords that are detected in Riffian are classified as Arabic by academic linguistic scholars, if those loanwords where of Amazigh origin that came from Darija than they would classify it as Amazigh
@@KllaasKllff so in other words your coping
Nice to see someone cover North Africa prior to Islam
@@Revitalization4241darrija is a mix between tamazight and arabic 😂 it has a lot of amazigh words that is why other arabs don't understand darrija , riffian has not a lot of arabic words , i'm riffian and i comfirm that
Cognosces linguam wanchinam (orth?)? Wanchini maziciter in Insulis Canariis loquebantur.
Great video.
Thank you! It's a little rough around the edges but I tried my best. Fantastic language family to cover.
I made a cursive tifinagh script it's very useful in writing
Great! Where can I check it out?
Could you show us, maybe a link.
In the original version of the video there was a mistake at around 14:14. It's been edited out now 👍
Big thanks to all the people who pointed it out!
'Tanmirt' is thank you, not please 🤦
I checked, it's not around 14:14 it's somewhere else. I am Kabyle and we say "tanmirt". And yes, it means "thanks"
This video is amazigh!
I like it, see what you did there 👍
@@LearnHittite
I was surprised to find no comment that made this obvious pun!