WORST POSSIBLE FAILURE: I Found The Coolant Problem On My CHEAP Jag F-Type
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ค. 2022
- It's time to dig into my cheap (broken) 2014 Jaguar F-Type S. After I got the F-Type back to the shop I got it to turn over, blowing rusty coolant all over the car and the shop. Then after putting the plugs back in it ran great even though it was burning coolant at an insane rate. I was able to drive it around the shop a little bit without so much as a misfire... but now we have to find the coolant problem, and of course it's bad but possibly even a total loss.
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I think for view sake, rip the heads off… we’d love to see that footage. I don’t think it be a waste of time even if it needs replaced, it make amazing content! Please… lol
He's already forgotten about this car.
Ripping the engine apart will be fun, the AJ126 has a fun block fact.
I agree
Agree
Oh don’t worry, this will be milked for every drop of exactly 10 minute videos to enable monetization
Jag tech again you can check oil level via your instrument cluster, sorry to see the hurt engine if you came into the dealer I’d quote you a motor all day, if this was on my jag XFR I’d roll the dice and do a tear down and see if head or block actually cracked, it all really boils down to what’s more valuable to you time or money, and I’d pull out the top like you want it’s much easier, torque converter bolts are about the hardest part about pulling the engine on these cars, also your charger has most definitely been off before they don’t use paint marks on the intercooler bolts from factory as well as your coolant pipes under the charger have been replaced before. Looking forward to the next video!
@@dylanfarnum1488 Pulling up the level on the cluster is fine, but it doesn't allow you to see the condition of the oil itself. Having to open the drain is a pain in the ass, especially without a lift, if all you need is to see the oil. That just turns a 30 second check into an actual job. Poor design choice, Jaguar...
@@AndrewAMartin I agree that you need to know a lot more about the oil than just the level.
Even if you replace the motor, tear the old one down
I’d do an engine just because of the milkshake. It sat with that in the pan for how long? Those bearings will be damaged just from that. I do want to see the head off, but that looks like erosion which I’ve never seen from a blown gasket
If an engine is really $8000, AND you find after pulling the head that the wall is in fact damaged... I'd price out how much a resleeve would cost on the one cylinder. A grand in machine shop time and a grand in gaskets and timing bits sure beats $8k
Yup. Pretty much standard procedure in Germany. Rip block apart, machine shop either can laser-weld the block or put sleeves in. Then you have a zero mile engine after replacing main bearings, and timing chain+guides and checking cylinder heads. A junkyard engine is a gamble. The problem with a rebuilt is, you have to do it right and measure critical tolerances otherwise it probably runs worse afterwards lol.
@@tschuuuls486 Indeed - Plus a video on this would make for more fascinating viewing than simply watching time lapse on another engine swap.
@@tschuuuls486 Trying to find that level of quality machine shop will take some hunting, but they are out there.
You have to pull it any way. After it is out, pull the head, if it looks mangled, put it back and get a new motor. If it looks saveable, pull the pan to check the bearings. If it still looks saveable pull the other head, then decide on rebuild or replace. It's a few more hours work and might delay a replacement a few days if you go that way but you might save $5,000 too.
I'm with the crowd that wants you to just swap the motor, but tear the old one down to see how bad it actually is. I suspect that the shop put head gaskets in "hoping" it cured the issue, which it obviously has not.
Totally agree, and then the owner drove it for a while and lost a cylinder which, sadly, is exactly what I've done in the past - though to a much older Jag!
Tear it down regardless.. would love to see!.. good luck!
Agree
open the engine and see if the cylinders are good or not. I would love to see the inside and plus a good experience lvl up for u on Jags lol. Your time spent on cracking this open will go a long way
oof ... I was really hoping this wasn't the case. I've seen a number of Jags that not only have head gasket issues, but warped blocks, making the gasket replacement useless anyway. A new/refurbished engine is probably the way to go. I can't imagine how mad I'd be if I changed the head gaskets on one of these and it immediately started aspirating coolant again.
Kinda why they make straight edges
I'm ready to see you get started, this is certainly going to be a interesting series.
great video, please don’t stop posting this is the only channel that helps me truly man
A friend of mine got a free Old Jaguar, the one with the two gas caps....beautiful machine ran for a year, he passed it on for free, but it was blowing blue smoke for six months, no repair! Hope it worked out for the 3rd owner! ( we were summer job garbage men, people were always giving away cars in the 80's, in a very wealthy neighborhood.)
I use an engine hoist with a long sling to drop them through the bottom, then lift the car out of the way. add in my modified creeper (removed the pad, added in cross bars) and it makes rolling the engine around the shop easy.
Fun project and fun car....great choice for a series. Keep up the great work.
Another great video from JR. Thanks
It would be interesting to see it being open. Send the engine to “I Do Cars” on TH-cam, he can probably buy it from you.
A collab would be great for both channels!
That would be amazing. I would love to see that.
I was just thinking the same thing…he may have an engine that might work as well.
Very interesting project John!👌😎
Looking forward to it, I'm getting a new engine on mine but its the v8 so it will be great to see how it's done. Wondering if others have had engine replacement as well
This is such a cool car, looking forward to see what it takes to pull that engine. It’s pretty for a reason.
Bit of JB Weld on the liner and it'll be good as new. 👌😉
I find the attempts to repair at a lower level (e.g., head gasket rather than new engine) much more interesting. Even learning how to do engine machining in-house, etc., would be more fun for viewers than just swapping power plants. Matt on Diesel Creek has no compunctions about diving into oil pumps and other components rather than just ordering from the parts supplier. Great fun to watch. Of course, if your goal is to make $$ on the flips, as in days of old, that's a different story I guess, but why watch grass grow? What I'd really like to see is a TH-camr who was willing to learn how to do electronic module repair at the component level. You might be an ideal candidate for that, with your dexterity and IT background. I find myself wondering how often a blown module is just a blown cap or FET.
I watched a video of a MX 5 with a jag V6 engine and manual gearbox very nice conversion total sleeper.
Ugh, I dumped an lr4 for this reason, at that time a used motor was around $12k, plus like another 5-7k in labor.
Also there’s an oil tube under the cap to hook up a vacuum for mess free oil sampling/changes.
Thought I wanted an F type... Watching you work on this car has changed my mind! lol
Stage 2 engine is like 11k from tapa, but you would still be in the green. Just depends how far the rabbit hole of stuff that will have to be replaced. But, built engine most likely increase the value. Juice is most likely worth the squeeze, they have been holding prices pretty well.
You should send it to Dart and sleeve the cilinders.
It can save your block and headers.
Nah, I don't think it's a chunk missing from the cylinder wall, just looked like a droplet of water held in place by surface tension.
You can see the reflection of the camera light in the droplet of water, and if you pressurize the cooling system you should see that droplet become a water fall.
Also what looks like a crack in the cylinder looks more like just water staining, it's right in line with where the coolant has been getting in and trickling down the cylinder leaving the water stain👍🇦🇺
As a mechanic from Nigeria, I’ve seen so many of this kind of damage. But I can bet you there’s no damage or crack. Pull those heads. You’ll be pleasantly surprised.
I dont think its missing a section of cylinder liner.. It looks like just a corrosion build up from it sitting for so long, and water getting in there. I think you could get away with a head gasket.
Worst case scenario, put a head gasket on it, and pressure check it on it is still on the stand. If it passes, your golden, if it doesnt, you will only be out the time to put the head gasket on, since you are already pulling the engine. But if it works, you saved a lot of coin!
The guys at J&J Autowrecking have a V6 and a V8, hit them up JR 👌😁
P.S: Do a collab with "I Do Cars", he loves tearing down broken engines!
If the 3.0 is the same as the 5.0, you can drain oil with a vacuum pump. There would be a pickup under the oil cap.
I think its the design of the combustion chamber that you are seeing. However due to the milkshake do we know how long the engine was driven since it could have shell damage also. If the sump can be removed, and just drop 1 big end that should give you an idea. If shells ok, just do the heads. If shells damaged too, then god knows what else has water damage.
I agree with the Jag tech below - its what is more valuable to you time or money. I would love to see you get a new engine and swap, but I would also like to see what is actually wrong with the current system.
Every time I start to complain about working on my C6, I see one of your videos and feel happy that I don't have a Jag / Audi / etc. (I mean, I'm not doing a clutch on that thing, but everything else is pretty straightforward.)
Unrelated to the content. Every time I see a new video of yours, the auto CC for the preview says “on todays episode of watch Jericho…” kills me every time lmao.
Remove engine, take cylinder block to a specialist to get it skimmed. And i say that because Sam Crac had the same problem with his BMW i8 and got the engine block skimmed.
yeah man removing the heads while it’s still in the car is not possible. i just took apart my f type R engine and tearing it down was a nightmare
Bad luck witht that problem but I'm really glad you're still going to save the car, whichever way you go. I love it!
You couldn't rebuild the engine could you?
Missed your Vids for the last few days
Love the the wheels 👍🔥🤤 car is sick man
Nice work
Impressive how you consistently put out videos almost every day versus channels that can't seem to put out a single video once a month that claim to be full time. Makes you wonder what the hell they're doing with their days.
Not taking youtube seriously that's for damn sure.
That engine should be salvageable. May need to tig weld the mating surface, deck it, and re-sleeve it. ( Get in touch with KSR and talk it over with Kevin he has done the same with aluminum LS blocks)
They are such good looking cars!
In todays market and supply issues it is definitely going the extra distance and seeing if you can get away with a head gasket.7k is a huge amount to save.
JB Weld it!!
I'm curious about how that would happen. Too much boost? Did they blow the head gasket and just keep driving the car? Get that engine out and replace it.
That almost looked like a raised spot on the head being a dark spot shadow you were seeing as "missing cyclender wall"?
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There was a company in Houston that took jag engine out put in chevy 350. This was back in the 80's but that's all that they did.
That was for the XJS. In fact, there were more than a few shops that replaced janky jag engines with 350's. If Jag had any sense, they would just buy chevy 350's and insall them vs that over priced v-12
@@jimmccormick6091 The body looks great see what fits ? Turn it into an electric car !
Yeah pull the heads.
Also if you take the SC/ intercooler off it should give you a bit of room to work. My brothers jag is just like this one. Gotta pull the SC/ intercoolers to do just about anything. Good luck.
Jr can't you get the engine reliner'd with top hat liner(s) could be cheaper and may solve the problem with liner
If the engines coming out anyway, pulling the heads should be a bit easier. The added benefit of possible head gasket cheap fix?
Had a 1997 Rover - the OG of British cars. Also the OG of head gasket fails 🤭 happy to report I no longer have that car!
It was a joint venture with Honda (accord) but for reasons unknown Rover didn't opt for the VTEC in the Honda 🤷🏻♂️🤣
I had a 1987 Sterling 825. In the states it was Sterling but in Europe it was a Rover. It had an Acura v6. It was a cool car but it had so many problems of all kinds. I didn't have it long.
Is that engine lubricated with Yoo-Hoo?
If it was mine, since I was pulling the motor anyway, I'd be tempted to go ahead and check the head gasket and block physically afterwards.
perhaps do the tear down and let that guide your next move? xj40 owner myself so... good luck!
That chunk out of the cylinder wall looked suspiciously symmetrical...before writing off the engine put your borescope down another cylinder and see if there is a notch in the same place.
Please take the Time and take a Look what the Zylinder wall looks like .
Maby you are lucky and only must maschined of a Little from a good Engine Shop !
That's what this channel is all about. Tear it down and have a look. Viewership will increase!
Yikes, the mocha milkshake of death... Definitely an engine out job no matter how you cut it.
So, how much are the V8 cars going for at the salvage auctions currently? I know doing a V8 swap on this car would be a big ordeal, but salvaging the harness and all the other parts from a wrecked car might make sense if it can be had for a reasonable price.
I ran an old Honda 750 that had milkshake carbs and engine oil, must have just dusted off the corrosion, because it ran hard for four years, and I sold it for $200, and the guy I sold it too also sold it for 200....I think it's still out there somewhere waiting to be filled and started!
Salvage V6S with a pulley and tune would be the way to go
Just buy the V8 in the first place, you will save money and time
Did u know the v6 3.0 is actually the ford 5.0 coyote with 2 cylinders blocked off.
So...I say get a 5.0 v8 coyote up grade
What if you pressurize the cooling system while you have the camera in the cylinder. Would that let you see the coolant coming in through that hole in the cylinder wall?
I think my opinion echoes many here, you have to take the motor out anyway, why not tear it down while it's out and confirm what's going on. If that is a crack in the cylinder wall then it's toast and time for a new motor anyway, and you can slap it back together well enough for the core return. Either way, it's content for us to watch and enjoy!
Throw the camera in the good cylinder to confirm the damage done to the bad cylinder bore.
Watch JB Weld that head 🤣
I would love to see that. Expensive and i kinda know it wont work but i want to see it! What if we can weld the crack or something like that?
Moral of the story is if you HAVE to have one of these, buy one with low miles, enjoy it for a year or so and then pass it on to the next sucker, er, owner before it starts misbehaving. I have two Vanden Plas sedans, 2001 and 2002, each now with 135K on clock. Bought them both used 10years ago. They're great. Better than average on maintenance but I don't beat them and my mechanics know them inside out.
I once bought a Boxster with the same kinda damage. Got it SUPER cheap but it had the same problem yours did. Your screwed , new motor time. The Boxster actually wasnt that bad to swap a motor in, the F Type looks pretty bad tho. Good luck
Thanks!
Always worth a check 🤷🏻♂️,
Hey JR, great video. I’ve been subscribed for a couple of years now, but this is my first time commenting. Even though I have always been legally blind, and never able to legally, and let me stress legally drive, and now my vision is almost gone, but I still love cars. I say swap that mother Effer out.
There is a blind mechanic I forget his name but I know I've seen stuff about him I find it amazing I hope you keep the vision you do have for a long time best of luck
Good luck! I love you
@@brandon1661 when I was younger, I wanted to be a mechanic, for at that time, my site was relatively stable, and good, but sadly, it did not work out. But at least, I can tinker around on a car here and there. Doing things like changing tires, batteries, and the occasional wonky belt tensioner.
@@sammarley347 OK.
If I could help Watch JR Goes work on the Jaguar F type I would drink the shot of whiskey and the cold Battle Skeets with him, and puff on the Cannibus Cigars with him and get all schmoked up.
Can you drop the assembly out the bottom onto a stack of pallets?
Your building needed that signature abandoned vehicle out back. I think you’ve found it.
JR, is this some weird strategy to pawn the Jag off on me for giving you grief about it?!
Kidding. I’m not an idiot. Unlike these scammers in the comments.
I know it maybe a waste of time but do a full teardown for content. Would love to watch the full teardown and rebuild. Matt.
Do the gasket it will be great content. What would break a cylinder wall maybe freezing water in the water jacket.
There is an abandoned Jaguar F-Type in a Park and Ride near where I live. I think I know why now...
You're not paying garage labour rates, it's your time. So if you decide to pull the engine, then you might as well take the head off and look to see if it can be fixed with a new gasket or such before committing to a new engine. It's nearly impossible to tell properly from the camera if that's staining or a crack in the sleeve. Also a new sleeve is possible, so there's that too. Personally, I'd be tempted to pull the head in place first before going any further. If the engine needs to come out, then you're already part way through, if not, then you save some time.
“Fouled out” felt like I was watching Tavarish for a minute 🤪
The best most reliable Jags running have SBC V8s in them. It would be a slog to swap it out but in the long run, you would know it is bulletproof.
This is the one jag I luv but with the maintains and reliable would never get one. But I would just put a engine in
Prob best to do an LS swap. Jking - I do think time, and effort, etc, a replacement engine will be the way to go here. Anyway you go, I would like to see a head off view.
Body is a Jaguar, Engine is from a GT500 ( coyote engine ) that has been de-tuned, gearbox is from ZF .... Jaguar/LR F'd up royally by changing the timing chain guides from metal to plastic, they didn't use ford's head gaskets either. They also didn't provide the engine enough cooling, the radiator is too small and not enough fans & airflow in the engine compartment.
how much modding would it take to adapt the F-Pace S version of this car to the coyote?
@@AK88. You'd also have to change the housing for the gearbox , and the ECU, fuel pumps, radiators, and front springs. I'm sure I'm missing other items.
How on earth can they get away with deleting the oil level dipstick? It was bad enough that my 2018 Colorado did away with it for the transmission. Good luck, John.
Especially with engines that are known to haver catastrophic failures. Anything that they supercharged from 2010 on has had an abnormal amount of failure.
I dunno JR. That car sounds like a parts car. Sam Crac will buy it. Badly broken exotics are right up his street.
Had an XJ6L .Got rid of it since it cost me $100 every startup
No on the LS swap, slap some voltage in there.
Get Jake over and have him do a vid also! It could be interesting, and everyone would watch yours regardless, so getting two perspectives and two vids could be an awesome concept. Plus, make him do stuff and put that phone of his down.
Maybe get a used replacement motor and change the head gaskets on that before you drop it in? I’m not a Jag expert but I play one on TH-cam
looked like water beading up at the leak to me
What I 2as told years ago, to own a Jag you need to be able to afford three, because one is always in the shop and the third to cover the repair cost.
We have to see now what is inside.
what happens if you put some type of sealant to cover the gaps,space between it,
A little jb-weld should fix it good.....what do you have to lose?
Why not try some Barr's sealer?
See if Ninja can loan you his magic table!! It’ll save you a ton of time.
Seems like a lot of work to make a bong.
I know 6 or 7 guys that had a Ford drive train dropped in it. This was in San Antonio. There was a guy there that did it, fast and dependable. Just a thought. Apparently they pretty much just dropped in.
A ford engine in a jaguar? Who ???
Yep that engine needs a reman. On the other hand why not do something radical with it like a Viper V10 swap? Pretty sure it will still be cheaper than a Jag engine and it will not be a rolling cliché like an LS swap.
JR , you should trade the jag for some rx8s and do some budget builds I miss those, would love too see a rotary rebuild done by yourself on a budget
Probably a engine swap & it's well worth it. Beautiful car 🔥🔥🚘👍
What is the best resale value amount for this after repair? Is it above $30,000