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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2025
- English translation by onigiriico on Tumblr! ( / onigiriico ) Thank you for letting me use it! I changed a few things to flow better here and there.
Yuno's will be coming soon. Currently waiting for the translators to finish with their quality checks.
Voice Actors:
Es: Amami Yurina
Haruka: Horie Shun
![MILGRAM / Haruka - 弱者の蠕動 [The First Trial Voice Drama | English Subs]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9aHNVWmipxc/mqdefault.jpg)
![MILGRAM / Haruka - All-Knowing And All-Agony [The Second Trial Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/UNUzBnUEP2g/mqdefault.jpg)
Haruka’s mentally and emotionally a child. It’s understandable he would take being viewed innocent after killing a person, children take praise or disapproval for everything that they do
The saddest part of this is that no matter how people voted for him before or vote for him after this, Haruka is clearly just very unwell mentally. He clearly was struggling with some form of abuse or neglect that led to him snapping. What he did was wrong but even now he's just completely unravelling over it. If he'd been voted guilty before, he would just continue hating himself and it would reinforce the kind of thinking he already had about himself. But being voted innocent has led to him completely swinging the other way and trying to convince himself that it was okay for him to kill someone. He seems very confused and almost angry at his verdict, like he can't understand why anyone would forgive someone as lowly as him. It's heart-breaking but I don't think Haruka is gonna recover or improve without some proper therapy/emotional support, and they seem to be hinting that Muu is the person he's looking to for that support which is really bad. Her own dysfunctions and trauma just feed into his; he wants to be acknowledged and she wants to be validated. They're both awful for each other and are likely gonna spiral down hard unless someone snaps one of them out of it. Unless an emotionally stable third party intervenes, he's gonna fully derail no matter what his next two verdicts are and there's nothing we as the audience can do to help him.
These r my exact thoughts.. omg thank you. I literally worry abt Haruka so much bc of how unwell he seems.. I personally didn't enjoy how he was captured as a "bad guy" without pin pointing maybe why he's the way he is. You said exactly everything as to why. But it's just nice to know someone else out there is also thinking of his mental state. I feel like just him being neglected and not taught a lot on life; just gave him his own narrative in the real world. So he taught himself the best he could to be a human being. It's really rough and not to get personal, but he reminds me of my past self so much. My child self is still so hurt from their past, seeing how similar me and Haruka r just hits home and makes me wanna literally protect this man with every fiber of my being lmaooo I hope he'll b okay omg. I'm doing okay now tho, and therapy and getting help does work lol. If Haruka were to get help, I feel like he'd understand what he did was wrong and feel horrible. But still have twisted parts to him, sadly. Murder changes u mentally in ways idk how, but he lost parts of himself and soul from that I think : ( Same with his childhood. He has a lot to learn and I really hope we get to see more growth from him! ( obvs not a whole lot, but it's nice to hear him speaking up more! ) sorry this got personal and long 😅
THIS
I have such a hard time finding a verdict for haruka, he both need validation and a way to stop him from being violent towards other and himself, but i don't think milgram, by it's concept, will ever be able to provide him that help, wich is kinda sad.
The problem with the Muu and Haruka thing is that it seems they’re both legitimately friends with each other. And they both have their own problems that get worse when their with each other any Muu might be a little bit manipulative but that’s a problem. Keep two characters that have never had any friends stay friends and be happy, or distance them from each other to stop their problems from getting worse?
Haruka has that BPD vibe
-some one with BPD discovering the show and kinda relating
I want Haruka to be okay. I really just want him to be given therapy, or a safe person to help him, which is most definitely not Muu. I am very attached to Haruka, relating to him as a character and the abuse/neglect he had. I hope he will make it... :,
Epitome of that "upgrade - fuck go back" meme.
BRO'S GONNA GO WILD AT THE THIRD TRIAL 💀💀💀
I can't wait
I think he's gonna be dead y'all
haruka PLS dont die
@@tuxaitythe bells
I don't think there will ever be a third trial😞
I SHOULDVE BEEN PREPARED FOR WHAT WOULDVE HAPPENED. OFC IT WOULDVE HAPPENED HE TOLD IT HIMSELF.
EXACTLY BRO, STILL ITS HEARTBREAKING THO
HE JUST WANTED SOMEONE TO LOVE HIM 😭😭😭
no cuz i was rewatching this, and right as he said 'then ill kill myself instead' i had a minute of silence because i realised what happened. my poor boy
“My mother is Muu-san!”
Muu, somewhere: “NO, I’M NOT”
Muu: is literally a year younger than Haruka
they spend most if not all the time together so he calls her his mom every single chance he gets to do so. like haruka didn't come up with the mom thing only during the voice drama and he wasn't afraid to call es not his mom even though he himself wanted them to be his mom. haruka thought he could be his real self when around es(which includes calling them his mom).
why would he proudly claim that muu is his mom? she must've accepted that title lmao bc if she hadn't he'd say that she isn't his mom either.
muu still sticks around him and isn't weirded out by being called mom. also yknow being called a mom means that you're some kind of authority figure, remember: muu dominates him
@@johnj.j.8159 I know, but like, that was so offhanded…
@@cinnibunbun7389 hmm, well he's in general saying whatever so he probably said that out of nowhere to her too.
it's weird to call someone who isn't your biological mother a "mom" so he could only say it to the two people that he thought it would be safe to do so to, who wouldn't make fun of him. like i really think he'd come off as more closed off if at the very least muu wasn't agreeing with this all.
ig it's all up to interpretation now till muu's voice drama but i don't think that it would be true to her character to idk straight up not play along with someone who's close to her, someone who she tries to support and reassure in any way possible. i think she's amused by haruka being like this towards her like with es talking to jackalope thing.
@@cinnibunbun7389 eh he was a bit unhinged here anyway
Okay we can go on and on about our votes, but can we talk about that voice acting? I automatically went into defense mode when Haruka freaked out like that, props to the VA👏👏
I think he actually won a best voice actor award
I actually ended up here, in this rabbit hole of a project, because I was looking for more work from this VA after his work in a video game, and I'm not disappointed. The meek stutter and later crazed yelling just hits different.
HYUNA PFP SPOTTED
@@thatlovergirl1020 Sua pfp spotted 😄
@@thatlovergirl1020 Sua pfp spotted 😄
That tantrum scared me the fuck up. I also think it doesn't help Haruka that he thinks of Es like an authority/parental figure (like his mum) so it's completely reasonable for him to act cocky. However, positive reinforcement doesn't work on him (like another commenter said) and he needs to see what he did was wrong! I know he's behind developmentally but he knows what killing is and deliberately did it
Quoting a classic, he doesn't have enough brains to use as lube
I don't think so he thinks MUU (younger than him) and fucking ES (who addresses himself with male pronouns) are his moms if he doesn't understand birth he probably doesn't understand death either
i don't think it's gonna work, we tried voting him guilty and he just got frightened
" he thinks of Es like an authority/parental figure" This!! He was throwing a tantrum and acting like he HAD to be right--but the moment he abandoned the idea of Es being his "mother" he started being polite and shy again. He only screamed and acted like himself when he felt he could trust Es! Which gives so much insight into how he has been acting up until this trial
@Haru-sg9vj Holy shit ur so right? Tho I don't think he understands what killing is, nor that he is capable of telling us about his "crime" (I suspect the girl might provoked him or even might abused him similar to Muu or Es)
At 5:08 I imagine Haruka stomping up and down like a little kid throwing a tantrum. He reacts just like a kid being teased - "I'm not stupid! don't call me that!"
yeah, and he really does have more of a childlike mentality due to his mothers neglect…. so it makes me wonder differently this voice drama would be interpreted by people if physically, he was a child
It's pretty interesting. We have Haruka, an older teen/adult who acts younger, and Amane, a little kid who acts older. Two different sides of abuse and the way it can mess with your mentality.
i want to cry
@@honamimochizuki tbh due to his (lack of) intelligence also, I think he might have an ID and his mother's abuse and neglect worsened his mental view and/or age.
edit: research ((AND hyperfocus)) makes wonders. LMAO I think his childish mentality is veeeery far more so due to his trauma,, though his possible ID may exacerbate it a bit because it makes processing feelings harder !! :3
@@bebe_chocowhat’s an id? /genq
These voice actors are genuinely so talented
I’m so heartbroken at the results of this trial HES GOING TO BE SO DIFFERENT
I'm so scared if hes restrained and is going to be alone THATS GONNA FUCK HIM UP SO BAD
@@gifigi600yeh I will vote guilty (remember I do not like vote him guilty but her behaviour say am I innocent for praise to kill someone it just phycopathic stuff sorry hasiru but for your treatment)
OMG hellooo it's a shinya pfp ^_^ !!!
i mean he's different for sure...
Him: You better not vote me or Mu guilty or else...
Me seeing the results: I AM LIVING IN THE FEARRRRR
the way that it was BOTH OF THEM TOO😭😭😭 I am fearing for my life
REAL
Imma remind you of this again after the new video
@jacaresemdente602 im scared
@arudastra4723 see kt for yourself
I can't say I forgive Haruka, but I really pity him. Its obvious he has a learning disability, and by how much his mother neglected him its obvious it was never accommodated, instead the boy was raised without any real support it and it only worsened by the inferiority and victim complex he gained from the failure and neglect he continued to be met with. Now I'm unsure if ANYTHING can be done for him within milgram because of just how traumatized the boy has become. Vote him innocent and he learns nothing and will eventually do it again. Vote him guilty and he'll just continue to hate himself and likely end up doing it again desperate for any attention to help offset his own despair. Haruka needs therapy, I can only hope that voting both him and Mu will lead to some sort of growth for him, if he doesn't succeed at killing himself that is, but shidou should be able to save him if he tries.
If that makes you happy, Milgram is a experimental prison for criminals like Haruka (hence the name)
i also really pity him. his freakout reminds me of my own - i can relate (i'm autistic) so i can only feel bad for him. i hated every time S called him an idiot, because he isn't. what he did was wrong, but i wouldn't say it was entirely his fault. he has a lot of issues, none of which were his fault. i'm probably way too forgiving, but i just feel really bad for him and i want him to get the help he deserves, that's all he really needs in my opinion.
*spoiler*
The only problem with Shidou would be Amane, who said it straight to our face that she's going to kill Shidou sooner or later, so let's just pray that he'll be able to save Haru before Amane will strike :(
5:24 "Don't...make fun of me!" Tbh, it sounds closer to "Don't... call me... AN IDIOT!"
minor pointer, but the implication is huge.
probably implies haruka's idiot complex, and how he doesn't like to be looked down on, but would rather be pitied as a weakling, which REALLY layers his messed up 2nd trial MV clip (the one at the end, iykyk) a lot more...
It literally means "Do not make me an idiot" but things in japanese often have a different meaning from the literal translation, aka rather than "dont call me an idiot" its more like "Dont make me feel like an idiot" or "dont make me look like an idiot"
i think it literally says that in japanese "Do not call me an idiot" or sum
Es' pose here seems to parallel Kotoko's. Kotoko has a baseball bat, while Es has the look of a pitcher.
Milgram baseball club
@@keebollan6040😂
@@keebollan6040I CAN'T-
Rest In Peace little jit 😭🙏
it's scary when he switches to that emotionless, cold tone tbh like if he's gonna use only this one in the third trial it feels like es won't be able to reach him at all
when he's blaming himself or throws a tantrum it's still something, some kind of dynamic, him actively reflecting on what he did
Well at least we know there’s one undeniable fact about Haruka… he’s got mommy issues
He does
Is it bad that I didn’t really feel that sympathetic towards him *until* this voice trial??
The first trial I just saw that he killed a dog and obviously a person, too. He wanted attention but. That’s pretty much all I got. I was shocked when he was voted innocent, he literally says “yes it was me” in his song.
But now, this trial says a lot more about him and how he just never was enough and was neglected etc etc.
I’m still voting him guilty, as voting him innocent just made him worse (I think at this point there’s no saving him, he’s just getting worse for a different reason depending on if he’s innocent or guilty) and I think he is absolutely guilty of murder, but dang now I understand the love for him lol
its not really about figuring out whether they are innocent or guilty. Milgram is about whether or not you forgive them for the crime they committed as seeing their circumstances that led to the murder. Its already known all of the prisoners have committed murder one way or another
I was on the fence second trial, but now I know I'm gonna vote him guilty. In the first trial, I assumed he was on the spectrum and didn't really know what was going on, just killing = attention. (Didn't help he got a banger song lol) but now I'm seeing positive reinforcement doesn't work, there's too many issues with his logic to teach him properly in the timeframe we'll have with Milgram. This shows me he probably won't change in time (get the help he needs to be released into the world again stable enough that he's not gonna go find some more victims), knows and is aware of what he's doing in a sadistic fashion (the acknowledgement of his "attention attracting kills" "I can kill anything smaller than me") and as Es has put it, he's become cocky, and therefore kind of intolerable as a person. I don't really root for him anymore, but appreciate the writing in that he's not just this one note sad tale of someone who can't understand they've done wrong for 3 songs. But he's totally guilty to me as he is now.
Plus, about his threat, if he gets treated as guilty he'll get more restrained so probably won't be able to fulfill it, don't worry.
Thank you for thinking logically.
Didn't know what was going on ?! Even if he was on the Spectrum he should have known !!! This guy is guilty anyways and should atone for the lives he fucking took. I hate his trope so much...
@@pomme2903 He does not understand what a mother is, how tf he's gonna understand death
I would still argue Haruka doesnt fully understand what he’s doing. Haruka has a developmental disability and clearly has a simple understanding of things, this is evident from just his description of what a mother is alone.
Haruka has come to learn that Killing = attention, he doesn’t do it cause he likes it, in his very distorted perception its all he can manage to do to be seen as a person born ‘weak’ in a world of people born ‘strong’. The worst part is that he’s right, had he not done those things what would have become of him? Surely there might have been better answers but how could you expect Haruka to understand that with no outside resources and limited critical thinking.
Its terrible that an innocent life was lost and Haruka certainly killed them, but who is really to blame here? Shouldn’t the parents who abused their disabled child be more culpable? Had Haruka grown up with proper care and supervision he would have never turned out how he is now.
Haruka is a very troubled youth, he’s done bad things, theres no arguing against that. But he is not sadistic, he takes no pleasure in hurting things. All he wants is to be loved, but due to the abuse he no longer thinks thats possible and instead seeks attention. Its really just sad.
That’s why it makes me sad to see people judge Haruka so harshly. I voted him ‘guilty’ this trial as well. its true we should try to stop this type of thinking but he’s not beyond redemption. He needs help more than anything, it hurts that others are quick to say hes gotten too cocky… he’s obviously just trying very hard to become a better version of himself (and is just following Mus influence)… just look at his T2 interrogation answers, “everything is wrong with me” and etc… he still hates himself more than anything.
please dont be quick to write him off as cruel and cocky, that isnt Haruka.
@@X0.xoox.0X I don’t know why but “that isn’t Haruka” in the end hits lowkey hard
This aged interestingly
Indeed... I wonder if Haruka is really gonna go through with his idea in 12:03 once he finds out Mu has gotten the highest guilty votes so far. His trial 3 VD shall be interesting if he's still around that is...
@@kwiilunn6047 how are we feeling
I have an itching feeling that since his mother never paid attention to him his mother might have had another child and that child might have been a girl and he might have killed his little sister to try and get attention from his mom
OH YE I love this theory :3
he said he was gonna do it and he wasn't lying fr😭😭😭😭 if you voted muu guilty you should've been prepared
ngl i'm feeling like people voted her knowing. it's kinda like with amane, i think they all fucked up with voting her guilty and then innocent to try to fix it. but with haruka they're trying to fix it by...well...letting him take himself out i guess 😭
Wow the voice actors impress me again.
I didn't expect him to change THAT much. I feel kind of bad for him, if I understood correctly he's only acting like that because he was brainwashed. Maybe he wouldn't have made those leaps in logic if his ideas hadn't been forcefully reinforced. Or maybe I just took Jackalope's word too literally.
I doubt Haruka will really kill himself, if that was possible Mahiru and Shidou would have done it already.
I wonder how Es managed to understand something from Haruka's first MV. I knew he was suspicious, but I didn't expect him to be that evil. It was very weird how at first it seemed as if they were talking about Sakurai's crime only for they to reveal they were speaking metaphorically about "killing his undesired self". I don't understand how that is a murder. I wonder who he killed. It can't have been his mother, killing her for her own attention makes no sense.
Anyway, thanks for making this video!
they were probably referring to the girl in his first mv
i think milgram brainwashes the prisoners somewhat depending on which way you voted, it either makes them worse or better depending on how you see it. though not everyone is affected by it [as far as we can tell] OR doesnt have major changes we can see yet
he wasn't brainwashed rather id say that he was unsure whether he was right or wrong but he was hoping that the reason for doing it would justify his murders so he was beyond happy to know that that many people agreed what he did was right and voted him innocent. this is the real haruka sakurai he isnt some innocent boy who killed himself and didnt commit any other murder
haruka could kill himself just like that using a knife he'd obtain from dinner, by wrapping restraints around his throat etc then theres the possibility of a double suicide with mu...
it's very obvious that he killed a dog in weakness and then theres the new mv where he killed a bunch of animals. he also killed the girl in pink dress(proof at the end of the second mv lol) only he didnt smash her head with a rock
just rewatch the first mv a few times and you should be able to see it
@@johnj.j.8159 I wrote this before watching that video. It's clear he killed animals even from this video, but that's not why he's in Milgram.
As for the brainwashing, it has to be a thing. Not only Es acts as if he had been brainwashed by some sort of cult (figuratively), there's also the fact that Mikoto is somehow the only one who's immune to Milgram, which means they are definitely trying to mess with his mind. I do want to believe I'm wrong, though, because brainwashing makes the story less interesting.
As for the suicide I guess it has to be possible since murder is possible too, I just wonder why those 2 didn't do it.
And yes, now I know he killed the girl but we don't know who she is.
He definitely didn't kill his mother. He said あの子 (Anoko), which makes it sound like "that girl". He refers to his mum as お母さん (okaasan)
Haruka needs a lot of therapy. He shouldn't be blamed for acting childish or not understanding some things. When a mother neglects a child, that child shouldn't be held responsible I think.
But it's good that people voted to not forgive him this time. Even if Muu wasn't forgiven either, if his ideas are rejected, then he might return to his previous self, and maybe Muu will do something that'll stop Haruka from killing himself
ITS TOO FUNNY I CANNOT HE WENT FERAL
“Muu-san is my mom”
Muu,somewhere in the prison:
*Slaps table* *WHAT THE HAIL*
Oh wow. That was a lot.
Thanks for posting this!
heavily regret voting him innocent in the first trial this is not at all what i was hoping for oh man
ME TOO
Looking back when the voting for Haruka is over, it's dang funny.
wdym?
@@awayiis65 he was voted guilty now by a huge majority
Wdym = smoke
@@mnietuniema8860 not that huge tbh.... it's almost 50/50...
People having fun trying to get 50/50 and give up half way so they just nyoom it to guilty...
I feel really bad for Haruka, honestly. Ever since his first song, I have related very strongly to him and his circumstances and trauma. I really think he needs help, professional help. Whatever happens I don't want him to be decided as guilty in the 3rd trial, he deserves to get the mental help he clearly needs, and does not need to die. Honestly most of them don't need to die.
anyone like rewatching this video just to watch him scream or am i just crazy
I stand by my principles. He may be wrong saying he did nothing bad but how exactly is giving him a guilty verdict going to help? Did you see what happened last time we voted someone guilty "to make them understand what they did was bad?". Do you really think he's going to be able to understand that message?
That was actually my line of reasoning, too. I have been voting him innocent. I really don’t think a guilty verdict would help him to understand what he did was wrong (especially because it’s Haruka), but rather just make him extremely miserable. I’m a bit worried about what actions he might take if he gets an innocent and Muu gets a guilty, but it looks like he’ll be voted guilty anyway.
I'm pretty sure the prisoners aren't gonna learn anything regardless of our vote. The idea for the votes really is to judge whether or not we forgive the crime they commited.
@@flaflu180399 See I agree that they arent going to learn. My point is that people are voting guilty on certain prisoners because they think it will make them learn that what they did was wrong. This was why Amane was voted guilty. Very few people actually saw her as really unforgivable given she was tortured and brainwashed and possibly ordered to commit her murder.
Tbf the bad things that happened to the prisoners (specifically being beaten) were mainly the fault of kotoko
@@angrimelon7551 Jackalope has said the conditions for guilty prisoners will get more severe each time. Also Amane wasnt beaten, which was the comparison i was making.
It's too bad, I feel like if he were perhaps voted guilty first, and then innocent second with at least a few reason why explained to him, it would've helped him better. Having the second judgment come with a worse punishment after all... Then again, Kotoko's violent "justice" really complicates things. In the first place, I doubt many voted Kotoko innocent just to have her on our side. I'm worried most about how to vote Kotoko now that we know how she responds. I mean... Having her beat people may even be useful in some sense though it wasn't this time, but it mostly seems to have detrimental effects. After all... her actions clearly are meant to have a huge impact on our judgment and the life or death of other prisoners. If we vote Mahiru guilty again, Kotoko will kill her, so many of us may not want to vote her guilty now, but what if we feel she deserves it? That being said, if we vote her guilty again, is final fate chose by final verdict or best 2 out of 3 trial results? Our judgment whether we like or not will now be heavily skewed.
5:03 I feel like his breakdown here is similar to a child throwing a tantrum, it sounds like he's kicking on the chair/table/whatever is in front of him... Alongside the fidgeting, the childish behavior is so deeply wired in him I can't see him grow out of it ever.
this gotta be the most severe case of bpd i've ever seen
he does not have BPD, mahiru does. please dont compare ppl with literal psychotic traits to ppl with BPD. that's not what BPD is.
Anyone else think Es sounds like killua in this? I dunno if it's all the "bakaaaaaa"'s or just the voice and energy in general but for some reason they're very similar
It's the kid energy I guess, the insult is childish in itself anyway, as they're both young XD
He does!!
With Muu's new trial vid I honestly think she's manipulating Haruka and exploiting his weaknesses and his developmental disability, it's kind of scary to think that Muu was really this manipulative person.
We're not sure he has a developmental disability, we just know he severely mentally ill and jackalope has said it before : it's an EQUAL relationship. They're both using each other. Muu is not manipulating him she wants to dominate, he wants to be dominated. It's a simple. Also Haruka is using Mu more than she is using him, since she doesn't care about him that much
😂 mu mockingly singing at us like nyeeh, "warukunai mon. warukunai mon" (i aint bad, i didn't do a bad.)
I hate this idea that Muu is solely manipulating poor victim Haruka. She’s entitled and a brat, but she’s a kid and not some evil mastermind. Muu wants an obedient friend who will listen to her, and Haruka projects his mother onto her and desires to be coddled and pitied. It’s a mutually toxic relationship they’re BOTH willingly trapped in, Jackalope says so himself
Unlike us (Es) Muu is trying to teach him how to read rn. Something none of us bothered with.
Not only we can understand Haruka better, Muu is a kid
@@hotaruika5876 !!!!! This!!!! Yes!!!!!!
ムウさんのことお母さんと思ってると言うハルカにエスくんがひいてるのおもろいはるかくんギャップ萌えで最高つまり最高
“because you forgive me, warden-san!”
. he may go federal
couldn't even cry to this!!! I broke down immediately!!! 🔥💯😂
I'm so sad that in the second trial he got guilty :(
He was so happy he got saved
Im really curious what his reaction will be maybe he flies crazy
Bro's gonna go wild
blud is DYING
@@tuxaity DONT DO THIS TO ME I WILL DO ANYTHINF PLEAS PELASE PLEASE ANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNFJENRJEKGP[PJSDIENRJNBQ
I'm laughing and crying at the same time. I pity Haruka so much but his and Es's conversation is so funny help- 💀
How is ableism funny? Haruka is disabled (learning disability) and Es kept calling him an idiot and made fun of him
@@kuroamia not only that, but he's used to being physically abused and called stupid for making mistakes when he genuinely doesn't understand why what he does is wrong. he hasn't been taught morals and now everyone expects him to act like everyone else should. what did people expect fr 💀
- so u wasnt my mother at all
+ wth for sure i wasnt
- then muu is my mother!!
+ shes not
- she is!!1!!1!
+ nope
@@whizkeysh0tTHATS WHAT IM SAYINNGG. like the only way to know morals for him was positive reinforcement in form of attention, and since he got attention for mostly. well not moral things it's kinda really weird to expect him to be like. "normal" or whatever they say.
So the only way for him to stop killing is if he's ignored when he murders someone ;-;@@alexxxxxxis
看守含めこいつら全員狂ってて好き
I see lots of people saying that no matter what we do Haruka can't be saved, but I disagree. I think all 10 of these people have a way in which we can save them, or at least there's probably a "good ending" for each of them. Not sure if it's possible to get all 10 good endings all together, or whether we are already too late for that, but I'm still holding out hope. So yes, I don't think it's too late for Haruka, and I think voting him guilty this time along with Mu was the right decision.
oh after yuno and futa said about hearing us what haruka said at 2:55 might also be us.
hes such a silly little cute guy i love him sm ❤️❤️🫶🫶
Es: '' you cant kill me ''
Haruka: it might seem crazy what im bout to say
Youre right....
yeah, yes definitly...
@@FrenchVFlower i hate you all
LMAO 😭
i’m scared what’s gonna happen after he find so it he’s voted guilty..
Damn i want to give him a hug, yeah hes made some mistakes but its was obviously due to the enviroment he grew up in.
Same!!
Es was SO ableist towards Haruka its not even funny i really feel like some sense got knocked in them when they talked to Fuuta and truly saw the outcome of their voting, Es did change a lot compared to now and back then when they talked with Haruka but the way they acted towards him will forever disgust me
And the fact that Es represents the audience makes it even more disturbing.
es is behaving differently based on the prisoner, they didn't change after fuuta's voice drama like take for example their attitude in muu's voice drama
es has had a dislike for haruka since first trial's voice drama(could possibly attribute to es subconsciously knowing the crime, knowing him before milgram etc or just plain simple disliking him)
also, it could be possible that es is this way because of the audience thinking of haruka as an "idiot"
Yeah it doesn't sit right with me either how Es goes on to use physical violence especially because we know Haruka was abused.
I actually have a bit of a theory about just why Es seems to behave so differently between voice dramas - I think in trial 1, Es is acting as something of a 'proxy' for each prisoner's victim, and in trial 2, they're a proxy for each prisoner's 'witness', so to speak. I think a lot about Amane's, for example - where Es is at their MOST rancid and horrible, like straight up so authoritarian that Amane's provoked into cult-navigating mode - but in trial 2, the infamous 'i'm an adult in haiti and puerto rico so nyah nyah' line makes them a LOT more immature and bratty - it's like Es switched between Amane's victim (some figure of authority, one of the people who abused her) and that fellow cult-member-classmate of hers, who I can easily see her bickering childishly with. And, well, for Haruka here - it's obvious, huh. Es is serving as a proxy for his mother - Haruka even, essentially, says as much, that he was sorta conversing with them /like/ they were his mom. ...As for trial 1, well. Well. WELL I SURE HAVE SOME THEORIES ABOUT WHO HARUKA'S 'VICTIM' WAS but that's for another day (okay i think this is all deep misdirection about closet transness and the victim was his potential future self)
“just looking at you makes me sick. Idiot. Idiot.”
it really was overly cruel especially when its obvious by now that Haruka has a developmental disability. Its very ableist and its hard to watch.
I do wonder if its supposed to be a critic on how Society would treat Haruka considering ES is supposed to be a voice for the public… either way its really sad
ハルカが饒舌になればなるほどエスがひいてるのがなんか絶妙シュールなんだよなw
thank you for posting this!
but god… 😭 haruka bby…,,,,,,, no,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Honestly I cried at this. Ik im getting into milgram long after this vote ended but i honestly just feel really really bad for haruka. He's obviously way to vulnerable to the judgement of others to be in a scenario like this. I want him to be voted innocent if only just so he can get out of milgram and get help. Like i genuinely really feel for him. Idc if he seems insane or if he's being unreasonable, he deserves a life where he was properly nurtured instead of being put in a spiral where he can only get worse and worse. I love haruka he is my favorite and I really hope he somehow gets a happy ending even if he probably won't since it seems most people think, any kind of hostility = bad and needs to be guilty. And im not even gonna mention the severity of his crime since shidou killed multiple people yet he's apparently innocent because he did it for his wife. Why not haruka who killed one person because he was incredibly misguided and mistreated and driven to a place where he would do anything to be seen? Also he said he didn't know how to feel about it in the video so he's obviously still very impressionable. I love haruka i just want to hug him and tell him that things will be okay (i may relate to him a bit)
Shidou haven't killed, in his VD it's said that he harvests organs from braindead people without their consent.
I’m so glad to see others who understand this as well.
While its true Shidou was consumed with grief and that surely had to influence his decision making, he was an adult with all of his faculties intact and still capable of critically thinking. He still chose to prioritize his wife over the lives of multiple innocent people, and yet he was forgiven twice now.
Meanwhile Haruka is a minor with a developmental disability who lacks proper judgement due to the abuse in his upbringing.
Is it really fair to be more lenient with Shidou over Haruka?
SEND HELPPP BRO WAS ADORABLE TILL HE SAID THAT HIS KILLING WAS JUSTIFIED.... BROOO NAAA HKEOP
Maybe it was legit justified though?
Holy shit. Now he have to forgive Mu, at least in this second trial... Imagine the implications of Haruka commiting suicide - it would totally fuck how the other prisioners see Es, and this can have a lot of bad implications...
everyone believes that its impossible for him to kill himself coz restraints yknow as if the prisoners after first trial didn't get their restraints removed having the straps only elongated and well majority hates mu for making haruka this way 🤣🤣 no chance of mu getting innocent even though it would kinda benefit haruka but whatever lets just watch it all burn and have the first prisoner who's dead now fr not on the brink of death
why we HAVE TO forgive Mu?
@@johnj.j.8159 So far there’s no confirmation that the restraints prevent the prisoners from harming themselves though. It’s possible they might stop Haruka, but is that really something to risk his life on? The fact so many people are easily relying on this reasoning makes me fear this trial is going to end in an even bigger train wreck than the first one.
@@johnj.j.8159 Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if the writers decided to have Haruka use his restraints to harm himself (maybe by manually tightening them even further or something) just to give the fandom the middle finger for being so confident in not taking Haruka’s threat seriously.
@@genericyoutubecommentchann7418 the first level of restraints immobilizes the guilty prisoners, dunno what could be the second level but the third one could be some kind of headwear if you can even call it that(i'm using the imagery we see in one of the trailers as basis for this)
the writer on his twitter seemed to be amused by the prisoners' verdicts so far so yeah i'm expecting them to do the exact opposite of what everyone's expecting and it will be like with kotoko she said she'll execute justice in the prison or something like that and everyone ignored that and then were shocked when it turned out she beat up the guilty prisoners.
this trial will be worse they'll use some other punishment since kotoko won't be able to beat anyone up. their doors wouldn't have the text "leave all hope you who enter" written for no reason y'know...
2:46 _Hilarious, funniest shiz I've ever seen_ O-o.... I have NO idea how he's gonna be treated or react after the guilty/unforgiven vote though, all I expect is that its "Worse" (If Kotoko doesn't get set loose again.)
ムウに影響されすぎと思ったが、これが生来の気質なのかもね。
It was literally spelled out for loud in Undercover.
エスくんのばーかばーか可愛くて笑った
それな
GOD DANG IT HARUKA! Now I have to vote Mu innocent just to save your life >:,( I don’t want anyone to die so I guess it’s the only option… Though I’m sure voting Mu innocent a second time will have repercussions of they’re own-
diid you mean repercussions bc muu is a minor and so is haruka thatd be a weird thint to say
@@mizuener whoops- yeah that’s what I meant :,)
It was said that when someone is voted guilty/unforgiven, then they would be physically restrained, so if Haruka was voted guilty, wouldn't that make it harder for him to take his life if Mu were to be voted guilty? Of course, that does not mean it would be impossible but might make it harder for him to try to take his life if the group keeps an eye on him. Also if people try to stop him he could lash out at them, injuring people who are voted innocent, so if he is voted guilty, it could make it safer for them. I could be wrong about this and it might make things worse but it's just what I think right now.
@@zackj6751 Currently me and my friends belief is that everyone should have been voted guilty in the first round to make sure everyone knows they’re place and also receive the least consequences from it and then be voted innocent no matter what during the next two trials to try and secure the best ending for everyone- But that didn’t happen so things are more complicated now- while I do agree with voting Haruka guilty now rather than later I still believe he’s innocent deep down.
@@voidopall548While I do agree that voting everyone guilty would be better for them in the long run, the problem I can see from this would be that Mikoto alter was not affected by the restraint so he would be able to attack and possibly kill the other prisoners and won't be able to defend against him although we would not have known that he was able to do that. The same can also be said if we voted everyone innocent since I can imagine Kotoko believing that there is no way everyone can be innocent and start attacking people who she deems to be guilty, while also just making everyone think they did nothing wrong with their actions. I do hope there is a way to give everyone the best ending possible at this point but I guess we will find out.
We’re NOT getting out of the Milgram prison with this one boys 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
take a shot every time es says idiot
Thanks a lot for the voice drama, this gives me a much better understanding of the characters
Haruka is for me personally guilty in the second trial and this voice drama gave me more reasons to why he should be guilty
I don't like the thought at all that he thinks what he did was okay. He's emotional very manipulative and his entire way of reasoning and thinking is very wrong for me.
This emotional blackmailing by "If I don't get my way I'll kill you / myself" is an insta guilty for me. Huge red flag.
Honestly if anyone does this to you, best thing you can do is leave this person.
I mean... He's blackmailing bc Muu told him to.
Who wants to help me plan the funeral?
THIS COMMENT AGED SO WELL 💀🙏🙏
9:05 naurr like I was actually sad and then this came up
11:37 and 12:03 ❤️❤️hes so real
I regret everything.
Honestly, I'm still voting him innocent. perhaps I have to do that for Mu as well. I kinda just wanna keep him alive. like I understand how he killed for attention from his mother and all but I can't bring myself to not forgive him. His thinking process is a little messed up but that makes sense coming from who he is as a person and comparing to some of the others.
I guess you're neglected as well if you vote him innocent.
@@bubbymustard5547 will the prisoners who don't make it after the third trial get killed off?
If we all vote Kotoko guilty they probably won’t die I think
HARUKA I CRY EVERY DAY FOR YOU ☹️☹️☹️
Yttd , hello Charlotte , milgram and witch's heart fan!?!
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Do you have any socials btw :3@@literaturegirlinsane
@@Spitemaster11YEYSYEYYSEYYS OGKGKG IM SO SORRY I THIUGHT I REPLIED EWRLIER 😭😭😭😭😭😭 IM SO NORMAL ABT HELLO CHARLOTRE AND WITCHS HEART AAAAAAAAAA
If Haruka really IS gonna kill himself, i'm gonna be so sad. I had a dream that i was visiting my Grandma, and then i saw on my phone the latest new about the third trial, and found out that Haruka really DID commit die. And i've felt nothing but regret and disappointment, that we chose THIS path over other ones, and now we can't take it back, because our decision was final... 😢
Well... im sorry
Im gonna hold your hand when I say this but......
So...what do you think about the latest video?...
well.
Bro has mommy issues stage 4
man i feel so bad for him, he needs so much therapy
That’s it. I’m his adoptive mother now. Say hi to Haruka Choco.
Haruka my dear congrats on now the guilty verdict along with your toxic relationship with Muu you have displayed a lack of care in yourself and that you're co dependent it pains me to see you be seen as guilty when infact your a tramatised person who needs therapy but dont let the inncoent verdicts go into your head
Voting guilty. The moment someone feels that they have done **nothing wrong** killing someone, whether it be justified or not, they become a monster. It's unnatural for a human to kill- they should at least feel some sort of guilt. He's unrepentant. Hate it.
Exactly people like Haruka make me physically recoil🤮
He probably doesn't understand what it is based on his understanding of the concept of motherhood alone
I need to hug him
i know this is a big ask, but could you possibly upload amanes, mikotos, and kotokos, as theyre the only ones (other than yunos t2) that isnt on youtube
Sure!
@@ac-gf4zt tysm!
@@ac-gf4zt TYSM aswell! now I'll be able to add all the voice dramas to my playlist and it'll have the voice dramas finally! Really, your a life saver for everyone who don't have Tumblr and Spotify!
Haruka what happened to you 😭
ハルカくんかわいい💞
very cute
彼 が 17歳 😭😭😭😭😭
やれやれ、あの人 今 わ 20歳… 僕 今だ そんな アルト わ あの人www
あ、彼 が まだ 17さい…
hes just like me fr
unfortunately, That's was the funniest trial I've ever seen 😭😭😭 I laughed a lot even if it was giving plenty of feelings 🥲
12:03 haha
Yall are crazy if you think that this guy is forgivable.
Sure he wants attention, but forgiving him means that he will still think that killing anyone for attention is a good thing, which I don't think is right.
True, but voting him guilt is the right thing? Yeah, what he did was terrible, but he's not going to understand what he did wrong. Futa was given a guilty vote in the first trial, but he was deemed innocent in the second one cause he felt bad after he realized what he done. Haruka won't understand that, but in milgram being guilty ≠ re-education
@@Finally_in_reverse The only chance that he will change and grow as a person is if he is voted guilty, and honestly, the people that voted on the first trial should have voted him guilty by then, he may be too far to be saved imo. He was voted innocent and not only did he not change, not realize anything, he let Muu use him as she pleases because she gives him attention.
Voting cocky people and insecure people guilty in the first trial was the move, yet somehow people decided to not go with that.
I don't think he kills for attention
4:47 HAHAHAHAHHSHSHS OH SHIT NO I LAUGJED WAY TOO HARD ON THIS HE SOUNDED LINE HE WAS SHITTING
Tbf he does that most of the time
STOP I CANNOT UNHEAR IT IM NOTSUPPOEED TO LAUGH I FEEL BAD FOR HIMAHAHAHAHAHAJW
4:46 why did bro start pooping 💀
STOP 💀
an ad played right after that moment for me, truly a bathroom break to be remembered.
STOP 😭😭😭😭
STOP IM IN TEARS
i didnt realize just how mentally unstable he was until hearing this jesus christ this poor guy
I know that it's probably not the point but I really wonder if you can change at that extent. Being anxious, insecure, despising yourself...once you have solved all your issues do you become someone else like Haruka did ?
A years late and a lot to say😭 Es looks so done with him. Everything was different form the first voice drama. The funny thing is both Haruka and Mu was voted for guilty. I'm looking forward to T3.
(Haruka needs therapy)
To be honest I feel like we messed up by voting BOTH Haruka and Mu as guilty. While yeah their both in the wrong with their views we basically dug Haruka into a whole. Even if we tell Mu she’s guilty if she sees Haruka’s verdict switched right along with hers who do yall think she’ll target? I feel like she’ll continue to try to take the blame off herself in any way possible, even if means getting rid of her follower. I feel like this will swing him back to where he started.
It's sad. Even now, Muu is actively keeping him alive, as I heard around that Haruka is not eating, and the only person checking up on him is Muu. So, while he meant by the threat, I think Muu is hoping he doesn't go through with it.
@@IzzyD.Anarchy as far as I know Kazui and Shidou also check up on him (they’re the main one’s keeping the peace so they make it a point check up on everyone based on the interrogations/ QnAs) but Haruka only seems to care about Muu since that’s his “mother”. looking at the others interrogations (Especially Yuno’s) it seems like the others avoidance of the two is out of discomfort of how they when they’re together. Also I’m not quite sure if you heard Muu’s interrogation but she doesn’t care that Haruka threatened to kill himself at all. She even says that she’s not gonna try and stop him because “real friends lets their friends do what they want.” She holds no concern for Haruka in the slightest. Infact in her interrogation instead of agreeing that she should talk to Haruka she instead say “Well it simple, just vote me innocent again and he won’t die.” She is using that boi as a hostage to insure her own freedom. Him dying would also work in her favor. Haruka wants to stay in there forever and she wants to leave. Those conflicting plans are gonna rear its head because Haruka isn’t gonna take so likely to being told she doesn’t wanna stay here would him. The only reason I could see her trying to keep Haruka alive atp is to use him as a scapegoat for her actions and try to make a parallel to why she’s in there (something along the lines of “because people always held me in high regard of course I did bad things, it was to much pressure trying to be perfect. Thats why I started acting so weird, because Haruka treated me just like everyone else”)
@@Octavewiththegills maybe, but if shidou and kazui were really watching over haruka, then both would realize that he is trying to starve himself and would have taken immediate action, but so far there is no evidence that they have, as there is no known interaction between the three during the second trial (check the milgram wiki or the app if you have for portal timeline conversations since there may be more there). Throughout the second trial, Haruka has interacted with a total of two people, Muu and Mikoto. Muu is especially important because she went to him during his birthday and addressed the situation that Haruka has not been eating. Hell, she even brought him food, which is completely antithetical to what she said in her second audio file.
@@IzzyD.Anarchy ok I stand corrected about Kazui and Shidou then. However could there be a possibility that Muu is purposely isolating him from everyone else? Thats usually one of the signs of domestic abuse or forced co-dependency. Idk I’m personally feel like Muu was very serious about not going to stop Haruka. Looking at her personality from the video’s she’s the type to use people for her benefit and turn on others who she views as a obstacle. At this point haruka basically leverage against us to her. I mean yeah of course she wants his attention as well but rn her survival is most important to her so haruka making her life more important then his own works in her favor so why try and stop him?
@@Octavewiththegills why would muu blame haruka if all of the prisoners know its es who gives out the verdicts like lets think what the guilty prisoners so far have said and they all condemn es's choice to forgive kotoko and don't exactly put all the blame on kotoko like its in no way haruka's fault muu got guilty lmao haruka tried to get innocent for her but its es who chose guilty for both of them and if the voices in their heads say what yall be saying then they know its es also in first voice drama she says that she won't forgive es because of their choice she knows its on es
muu blames only rei and not everyone else that bullied her i wonder why... because she just likes to put the blame on everyone am i right?
muu wants to stay in the prison - her season 2 5th voice line on the milgram website says so, thats one of the reasons haruka wants to stay in the prison. like i bet in t3 she'll say something about wanting to leave and haruka will echo it
haruka chose to isolate himself to focus on his future course of action but if you want to use the argument that "friends should be able to do what they want" wouldn't it fit that - its harukas choice so muu supposedly can't do anything about it but she legit wants him to come out of the cell like are you reading the translations with closed eyes; read haruka's birthday timeline this instant!!
dw he got too silly..
Milgram should invest in therapy because holy that's a lot to unpack right there
I JUST NEED HIM TO BE HAPPY :(
Everyone needs therapy the end
Haruka sounds like he's on drugs lol
Me-coded
He's so me haha
Therapy
god hes unhinged, praying for muu
Why for Muu? I’m praying for *him*. He’s quite obviously unwell and in a lot of mental pain and confusion, and is super vulnerable to manipulation right now. I feel like Muu might be using him for that.
What I want is to find a way to keep him and the other prisoners safe but also get him to realize that his actions were wrong at the same time.
@@flowerene2630 muu is still a victim in this situation too wtf. u think she isn't all those things as well? ur misogny is showing
@@flowerene2630 haruka killed someone who did absolutely nothing wrong to him all bc he wanted attention, but mu killed someone in self defense and ur gonna pick haruka as the most innocent?
@@omumafu6346 MISOGNY???? wtf??? You’re jumping to conclusions REAL quick.
I don’t think what he did wasn’t fucked up. It was ABSOLUTELY fucked up. I AM voting him guilty this round. He’s not right in the head and doesn’t even realize it.
And obviously Muu was bullied, which is inexcusable in any circumstance. But was Muu’s action REALLY self defense? Killing someone is not correct in her circumstance, I’m sorry to tell you this, as someone who has been bullied. Killing is not right in almost ANY circumstance.
Her music video, just like all of the music videos, is from her perspective. And when I pair that up with her actions in the drama and just generally, I feel like everything gets overdramatized in her head. I don’t think that’s completely her fault, of course, it’s just how she’s truly viewing it. But that doesn’t give her the right to murder another student just because they didn’t accept what she told them.
And about the misogyny comment one last time. Don’t even try that. Having to grow up around actually misogynistic people, being a female, sucks ass. Me not liking a woman character doesn’t make me a misogynist. I simply think she (at least is able to comprehend the world around her and isn’t gonna fall for stuff easily) has a higher ground than Haruka (easily influenced, has a difficulty comprehending some things) at the moment and was trying to state that it worried me. Especially when she made a comment about an unidentified “he” who “never says no”.
And I hope what I said makes sense, I have a mental disability and it messes with my ability to portray my thoughts properly.
@@omumafu6346 also this is unrelated and I know that you’re like. upset w my comment and everything, but I like your pfp.
he is so me