MILGRAM / Haruka - Weakness [The First Trial Music Video]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- “I wanted to be a pitied and loved weakling.”
Vocal: Haruka (CV: Shun Horie)
CD "Weakness" Release date: Jun 24,2020
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Lyrics: DECO*27
Music: DECO*27
Arrangement: DECO*27 & Rockwell
Movie by OTOIRO
Director: Mana Inoue
Animation Director: akka
Character Designer / Main Animator: roduki
Animator: RL,peatmos
Image Illustrator: shakawin
Story / Author: Takuya Yamanaka
"Weakness" Instrumental
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Lyrics:
Tell me, why are you drifting away from me?
Tell me, why do you say it’s my fault?
The word I tried to say was “You’re unfair”,
And those words thought how pitiful I am
Why is it breaking?
Tell me why? Please don’t change
If I tried and couldn’t say it,
You would get angry at me and say “You’re hopeless.”
If only I could do what anyone else could do
The right future unfairly chose the wrong me
I cried, I screamed
I wanted to be a pitied and loved weakling
I was in denial, I was in denial
I just had to make sure
AHahA Please notice me
aHaHA Someone please notice me…
I was wrong
Yes, it was me
It’s fine, it’s all my fault right?
It’s enough, I am a “disappointment”
I am always repeating yesterday,
Though it’s important to know when to give up
It’s fine, though it’s really not
It’s really fine, though I don’t really think so
When I tried to understand it,
You’ll make that disappointed face again
You praised me by saying “You’re crazy.”
Thank you, I’ll do my best
How many more times do I have to do this so I can be human?
I’ve become a victim, I’ve become a victim
My loneliness was desired
I was falling, I was falling down
My life started in a wrong spot
AHahA Please notice me
aHaHA Someone please notice me…
I was wrong
Yes, it was me
Even if I keep trying it, it’s broken right away
The things that aren’t here, and the unneeded things
Is it still living somewhere?
I cried, I screamed
I wanted to be a pitied and loved weakling
I was in denial, I was in denial
I just had to make sure
I’ve become a victim, I’ve become a victim
My loneliness was desired
I was falling, I was falling down
My life started in a wrong spot
AHahA Please notice me
aHaHA Someone please notice me…
I was wrong
Yes, it was me
AHahA Please notice me
aHaHA Someone please notice me…
I was wrong
Yes, it was me
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ハルカくんの誕生花の花言葉、｢私を無視しないで｣｢愛は死より強し｣なんだけど考察班頑張ってください……
よく頑張った、あとはあの方たちに任せよう
@ れい。
いや誰やねーん
@@ミルクトーン 考察班
@ れい。
なるほど、君がどこ目線なんやっていうツッコミのつもりやってんけど、私の説明力がなかったわすまん
コメ欄平和すぎて好き
何度も繰り返し見てて思ったことだけど、ハルカは「夢の中で暴力性を出す」ことでストレスの発散をしていたのかも？
殺すことは悪いことだ、自分は悪いことをしているという自覚はあるけど、夢の中の話だからスッキリするだけで終われる
でも本当に殺人をしてしまったときは、分かっていながらも止められなかったのかな…だから、最後の場面だけ泣いてる？
いつもなら夢が覚めて自分の狂行がなかったことになるのに、光がさしていく場面では夢が覚めなくて、ここでハルカも薄々気づいていた「現実だ」という事実に気づいて、自分のどうしようもなさに笑うしかなかったのかな、と…
なまえ名字
ずっと女の子を殺したのか疑問だったんですが、これを読んですごくしっくり来ました！！
これ第二審でわかったけど、本当は沢山の生き物を殺し繰り返していたんだよね。それと出てきた女の子はお母さんが望んでいた子なんだな。
ボイスドラマ聞いてて思ったけど、発達障害っぽいところとかエスから暴力を受けても笑いだしたりするところとか…
ハルカを「良心を持った人間」だと思って考察してると辻褄が合わないことが多い。
実はミルグラム中でも屈指の狂気性を秘めていて、思考回路も自分達とはかなり外れてるんじゃないかと仮説を立てると辻褄が合うとこが出てくる。
人からの愛情に過剰に反応するあたり、それ欲しさに「自分より愛されているものを全て殺せばまた自分へ愛を向けてもらえるかも…？」→「それを確かめてみたい！」って考えてもおかしくない。「狂ってる！」→「あっ褒められてる？ありがとうがんばるよ！」って解釈するあたりも頭おかしいよね。
Second Edit: Haha, of course second trial's song has a similar, one-kanji-switch play on words. Ha ha ha
EDIT: I won't change what mistake I made below, but I want to add this at the top. The original Japanese phrase is 弱肉強食 (jaku NIKU kyou shoku), which is more brutal than *my* mistaken thinking that it was 弱者共食. The REAL phrase means what I explained, but instead of "weak ones" (弱者）it's supposed to be "weak (one's) meat," (弱肉). This way, the phrase implies that "the weak" are only worthy as MEAT for "the strong." The rest of the explanation below is still valid, and the point of the play on words (in original Japanese) still stands. I just falsely reported what the regular saying is supposed to be. Sorry! I hope I cleared it up. Thank you to @чепушила намба ван below for pointing that out. I really can't believe I missed that...
The song's title in Japanese is 弱者共食 (jaku sha kyou shoku) which is typically translated as "The strong survive," but it's more literally "The strong eat, the weak do not." It's a very "Darwinian" kind of saying. But! Deco27 and everyone has played a trick on us; the ACTUAL phrase is 弱者強食, which is pronounced the exact same but the third character means STRENGTH (強) instead of TOGETHER/PUBLIC (共). So, where the original phrase means "The strong survive (by eating the weak)," this song's title's swap of that one word changes it to mean more like "The weak are eaten by the public/society."
So, that's Haruka.
It's really too bad that there's no simple or quick way to translate that title into English. "Weakness" is probably the best they could have done, honestly. If I had been in that writer's room I would have probably voted for "Weakness" as well. Still, I hope someone found this helpful/interesting!
Good points! I think it's interesting that you interpreted 共 as "the public/society", I was thinking the 共 in the phrase more strongly correlates to "together/each other" --> "the weak eat each other to survive". This would paint Haruka, who "wants to be seen as a pitied and loved weakling", in a less flattering light. He might not be the victim of society that he wants to be seen as, but rather an unintentional contributor or participant to said society (subtle typo, the typical phrase for "the strong eat the weak" is 弱肉強食, and song title is 弱肉共食).
reaally interesting is also that on the track listing for Haruka's single is a cover of DECO*27's old vocaloid song "Two breaths walking", I have so many questions
you're breathtaking, that makes a lot of sense, thank you!
That's literally the most interesting thing I've read all day! Thank you for this!!
But the second kanji is changed too, isn't it? It's 弱肉, not 弱者
1:18でうさぎのぬいぐるみがあるけど、うさぎは「愛されたい」みたいな感情の象徴的な存在だよね…つまりハルカは…
2審の曲を聞いてからだと、なにかころころした後に見える光はお母さんが恐る恐る開けた扉だったのかもって思って鳥肌
Ok, so here is my theory on Haruka. It´s very different from everything I´ve read about him so far but I still think it might be worth giving a thought since I think this theory would possibly fit Haruka very well.
Haruka is very childlike
It´s obvious that Haruka is very childlike, and it seems like he has problems growing up. For example, the Japanese text is written in very basic to nearly no Kanji, which is often associated with children, also no other prisoner has the lyrics being written this way, so it is a thing special to Haruka. We also see other aspects that hint on him being childish. In undercover, he is seen in a room full of toys, we see children’s drawings everywhere, he seemingly still uses a plushie when sleeping, he has problems understanding some idioms/terms (shown in the voice drama), he is scared of fireworks, the most expensive thing he ever bought was cotton candy, he doesn´t see a difference between the feelings like and love, he loves attention and being taken care of (I wanted to be a pitied and loved weakling), he sometimes acts inappropriate in situations (laughing) and so on.
The child in the video shows two different Harukas
Haruka stated that he has no siblings, so the boy in the video must be himself. I concluded that there are two different child-Harukas, one of those two is only seen shortly though. We see the “normal” Haruka floating in the dark, looking at himself holding hands with a little girl. I assume that this shows Harukas past self, probably from when he was an actual child and now, he just thinks back to it.
However, most of the time when we see the child, it resembles the childlike personality of the grown up Haruka. This means, that most of the time we see the child, it actually is the “normal” Haruka but drawn as a child to match his personality.
The girl and the women
I came to the conclusion that the grown-up women is not his mother, but actually the girl past Haruka hold hands with. They seem to be old childhood friends and she is probably very dear to Haruka, maybe even one of his only friends (since he has problems communication at times, I wouldn´t be surprised if it was hard for him to make new friends). However, unlike Haruka, she grew up normally and so did probably everyone else around him. When growing up, it often happens for childhood friends to grow apart but since Haruka wasn´t capable of growing up in the first place, the two of them started drifting apart even more, which Haruka didn´t understand/like (Tell me, why are you drifting away from me? 0:20). The girl probably realized that Haruka was different from normal kids, and I believe that she might be the one saying things like: “You´re crazy” because that´s what he was in her eyes.
Harukas story (video chronologically)
In the beginning, the first thing we see is Haruka sitting in front of the mirror. It then showed the happy child-Haruka and the sad-looking Haruka sitting on the same spot, probably to show that this child is his true nature.
At 0:27, Haruka says: “The word I tried to say was “You´re unfair”. And those words thought how pitiful I am. This shows not only how Haruka has problems expressing himself, but also how he thinks of himself as truly pitiful. At the same time, we see him happily walking through the city with his friend, holding hands with each other.
At 0:32 he says “Why is it breaking? Please don´t change.” He probably talks about the girl and their relationship, since he doesn´t understand why she has changed so much growing up and why their friendship is breaking.
At 0:42, we see Haruka pushing his self to the ground, showing how he understands the problem being his childishness and hating it for existing.
“If only I could do what anyone else could do” (0:43) is probably him referring to all those other kids he grew up with and how they grew up and learned new things but he didn´t. At the same time, we see Haruka thinking back at his childhood, holding his friends’ hand again.
At 1:16, we see something very interesting. It seems like Haruka killed the girl, but he probably didn´t since there is no blood on his hands or on the girl. Of course, there are ways of killing someone without blood (choking for example) but I still don´t think he killed her (yet). I have several ideas what might have happened there, he could have tried to kill her, or it was just his mind trying to kill his memory of the girl she used to be as a child in order to get over her growing up. He then wakes up so he might have been just dreaming.
At 1:26, we see a lot of eyes probably judging him and maybe making fun of him for being the way he is (it might be possible that he got bullied in school since he is so different from the other kids)
1:37 “I am always repeating yesterday” probably hinting on him being like a child, since children also tend to repeat days as they have no duties in life yet and just play all day.
We then see him following the dog into the forest. The dog might actually belong to the girl, so he tries to find the dog in order to make his friend happy and get closer to her again. However, at 2:05 he kills the dog. He might have done it to erase an “enemy” since the dog probably got a lot of attention from the girl. It´s possible he thought of the dog as some sort of rival and was hoping the girl would spend more time with him again if the dog didn´t exist.
2:06: “I´ve become a victim” It´s possible that he refers to mobbing
At 2:28 He shows his hands without blood on them so I really can´t say what is going on here. Might be that the blood was just on the stone but him waking up again confused me. Did he just dream about him killing the dog or did he remember it in his dream and woke up because of it?
2:42 “Even if I keep trying it, it´s broken right away” He tries his best to let this friendship keep going but it just won´t work.
2:47 “The things that aren´t here and the unneeded things. Is it still living somewhere?” I can´t entirely say what he means by this, but we see how the women disappears, probably leaving him/ ending the friendship, which makes Haruka cry.
3:05: He starts choking himself. He probably concluded that his childish side is the reason his life is the way it is and that it is the reason for his friend to leave him. He gets so angry at him self that he, in the end, at 3:26 killed himself, figuratively, not literally of course. I think he tried “killing himself” by suppressing his childish personality as good as he could. Then, finally, after he killed himself, people notice him, and he laughs, before the video ends.
I assume he tried to live suppressing his inner child, but it must have been really hard for him. While he was killing himself, he started to cry, which he didn´t do before. He also cries at the end when he gets attention. It might be out of joy, but I personally think he is not.
I think that after a while living with his true nature suppressed like that, he might have gotten crazy at some point and killed someone, possibly the friend.
This was rather long and I hope it was easy enough to understand. I´d like to know what you think about this theory though. Do you think it makes sense or not?
nice thesis (yes)
@@jenniebun thank you
glad to here it makes sense xD
@@summertimecookie4232 very nice theory btw!
@@rinhoshizora6186 Thank you! :D
I like your username xD
Yo this makes so much sense
この曲にあまり関係ないんだけど、障害をもってる人ってもってない人と違う五感の感じ方があるんだって（嗅覚や味覚、音の聞こえ方など）。
ハルカくんが発達障害もってるとしたら、このMVでカラフルな（というか毒々しい）色合いの場面が多かったり、所々に写真が使われていたりするのは「ハルカくんから見えている世界」なのかなって。
もう出ていたら申し訳ないです
字幕表示させると簡単な漢字（小学生のときに習うやつ？）しか使われてないのぞわってした
ところどころに難しめの漢字("悲鳴" "下降" など)が表示されてる所もあるから、動画に出てくる幼少期のハルカと現在のハルカの境界線が曖昧になってるのかな…
簡単な漢字しか使われてないとこは幼少期から漠然と思ってたこと…みたいな……
That's actually really interesting that the subtitles were all written in simple kanji
@@さくらくら-p6e
普通に小学生で習うと思うけども……その考えもいい！
It's because Haruka has a limited language, Haruka was never taught as a child
こどく とか 間ちがっていた とか
そういうのが沢山あるし
わざわざ平仮名になっているのは
何か意味がありそうですね。
As someone who has a learning disability and lives in a toxic household I relate a lot to Haruka’s pain I honestly think he needs therapy more than jail hope he lives on till the end I have my forgiveness and sympathy for him very much
Edit: This comment is 2 years old…why do all of you still care so much about what people think over a fictional character😭
You’re so valid, don’t let anyone tell you otherwise
@@chubean318 awww thanks🥺
He got voted innocent this time and from what I understand he might be the next few times too! It depends on what other people think
i think mostly everyone in the milgram needs therapy
and i hope you're going good in your house
Yes!He's definitely innocent!! I also relate to this mv so much ..hope other people forgive him as well..
このプロジェクトで怖いのは、こんな考察がはかどる曲を出しておいて、二審目でまた違う曲を出してくるところ
この曲が全てじゃ無いんだもんねハルカ…
どの罪を犯したか、兄弟なのか否か、は今おいておいて、とにかく動画内に出てくる色や物について考えます
まず、多用されている「色」
ハルカのイメージカラーはとにかく青。
今回の動画では香水？の液体、青いスポットライト、青い血液、青くなるシルエット。
3:25
見る限り青い血液が出ているのはハルカと同じ容姿だった幼い彼と犬だったもの？ぐちゃぐちゃで分かりにくいですが
「青の血」とは西洋の歴史の中でも貴族を指していたと言われています。静脈が透き通るほど白い肌は高貴だとされていたのです。
現代ではそれほど白いとなると「病的」な人を表現していると考えられるでしょう。
2:35
青いシルエットがアップになり、左目からは涙が出ています。
左目からの涙は「悲しい時に出るもの」
目は最も感情が現れるイメージですが、瞬きもせず、怖いほど無表情なので もしかすると悲しんでいないように装っている可能性もあります。
次に頻出するのが「緑の目」
先ほどハルカはとにかく青色だと述べたばかりですが、瞳のハイライト(下部)は暗い緑色だったりします。
そのほかにも動画内に「目玉」のような柄や子供が描いたような落書きはたくさん出てきますが
母親と連れ添っているシーンや何かを石で叩き潰した残骸から、ちょくちょくたくさんの瞳がハルカをじろじろと見ています。
実は緑色の瞳は古代から嫉妬の象徴とされていて、
たとえばシェイクスピアの『オセロ』にて
「嫉妬とは緑色の目をした怪物であり、人の心を食い物にして愚弄する」というセリフが出てきます。
しかし 心象風景に大量に現れるのは、ハルカが誰かに嫉妬していたという以外に
他人から嫉妬されている、ひがまれているという認識もあったのではないかと考えています。
次に、他の方も指摘されている
黄色いバラについてですが、これは花言葉である「ジェラシー」、嫉妬と考えて間違いないと思います。
本数や葉の数までは確認していないものの
0:11 〜で出てくる葉はおそらく黄色いバラのもの。しかし、まだ花は咲いていません。
咲く場面は大体 被害が出る前、その後です。
赤い色は愛や憎しみを表現する際に用いられたりしますが
この色とセットになって出てくるのは月です。
0:28〜1:32
までは灰色ですが
1:44〜
辺りから青い月へと変貌します。
見るだけで不気味になりますが、この月こそが唯一ハルカの、ハルカに似た誰かを殺めてしまう罪の、一部始終を見ていたと言えるでしょう。
青い月=ブルームーン
同名の薔薇が存在します。
青い薔薇は品種改良でも再現ができないと思われていました。
なので花言葉は
「夢は叶わない」「消して有り得ない」「不可能」
当時スターリングシルバーという青薔薇を作ろうとしていたのですが、病気になりやすかったり育てるのが難しいので、この品種を元に新たに作られたのがブルームーン。
美しい紫がかった薔薇です。こちらはかなり強いようです。
ちなみに2004年頃から本当に青い薔薇が作られるようになりました。
ここから転じて、今は青い薔薇の花言葉は
「神の祝福」「夢叶う」「不可能なことを成し遂げる」
と言われているようです。
2:08
しかしここで真っ赤に染め上がります。ここらへんは得意な方に考察してもろて…
ツギハギの犬を追いかけて森へ迷うシーン
あの場ではとにかく現実味がない色味と風景が広がっています。
このMVがもしハルカの心象風景を映し出しているならば、心理学で用いられるバウムテストも当てはまるのではないかと考えて(ここらへんはググっていただくとありがたい)
とりあえず調べた範囲で分かることを書き出します。
木の枝を描かない=引きこもり型、変身願望、今の自分に不満がある
葉がない=孤独、仲間がいないと考えている
山=親に依存している、自立心が芽生えていない
と、ここまでがおおよそ私が気になって調べた物事です。
参考文献なんてものはなく、ググって出しただけの代物なので
お門違いだったり勘違いしていたりもたくさんあるかと思いますが
考察する上でなんとなく目を通していただけると嬉しいです！
あと気になるものはツギハギの犬の存在感だったり壁に落書きされた目が実ってる木のようなものとか。
歌詞の
くるってるってほめてくれた
ありがとうがんばるよ
どれくらい続けたらぼくはヒトになれる？
らへんですね
共犯者か、教唆した者がいるのか……？
考察コメント眺めながら赦すか赦さないか決めようと思います！
櫻井 遥の｢櫻｣を調べたら、｢首飾り｣って単語が出てきて、櫻井くん見たら、首飾りがついてて鳥肌たった。
そうなると家族の証はネックレスだけにすぎないってことなのかな......
@米粉パン これ聞いてハルカくんの幼少期か、弟の首をしめてるの鳥肌たった…
自分自身、ADHDと自閉症っていう発達障がいなんですがこの曲共感しまくりなんですよね……。
症状が悪化するとこういう被害妄想に酷く苛まれるので実際にこのキャラにモデルの人がいるんじゃないかと思うくらい。
日本人 が？
わかる
仲間だ
辛いが頑張ってこうぜ
尋問でハルカが『家族は？』って質問に、
【お父さんとお母さんとぼくです】
って回答してるけど、MVにお父さんが出てきてない事とか、【お父さんをがっかりさせた】って別の尋問に答えてる所から察するに、
『自分が一番幸せだった時の家族構成』
なのかなって……。
ハルカに障がいがある事がわかって、しばらくは頑張って夫婦で育ててたけど、成長するにつれてどんどん顕著になる障がいのことで父親と母親が対立するようになって、
父親は家を出て行く
→ お母さんは『お前のせいでお父さんが出ていった』とハルカの世話をしなくなる
→ 弟ばかり構うように……
って流れがあったのかなって……。
最後の場面でスポットライトが当てられるのって
弟殺したらやっと親が自分を見てくれたって事なのかなぁ……( ；꒳； )
もしそうだったとしたら、親が見てくれた理由はハルカ自身じゃなくて弟が殺されたからっていう…
もう悲しすぎる…
じゃあ犬で描かれてるのは弟で、弟が「寂しい」とかの理由で家出したから嫉妬が爆発して殺したってことかな？
障害ってどこで分かるんですか！？
@@N_mirra13 字幕オンにすると小学校漢字しか使われてないあたりとか
おそらく発達障害ですね
あと、障がいって表現した方が良いですよ。
マジで1回聞いた時から好きだったんだよね
俺もやで！
てか、全員！
リピートが止まらない笑
既出かもしれませんが、囚人みんなの名字に植物の漢字が含まれてるのは何か意味があるのかな？
ハルカ:櫻 ユノ:樫 フータ:梶 ムウ:楠
シドウ:桐 マヒル:椎 カズイ:椋
アマネ:桃 ミコト:榧 コトコ:杠
って感じで
花言葉とか…？
別のコメ欄で書いてるのも有ったんでそれも参考に書いていきます。
ハルカ:櫻→桜
フランスの桜の花言葉は
『私を忘れないで』
ユノ :樫(かし)
『勇気』『力』『長寿』
｢貸し｣に掛けてお金を貸すほ
どお金がたまる
という意味も持つ
フータ:梶(かじ)
『過去の思い出』
(別コメ欄から引用)
ムウ :楠(くす/くすのき)
『芳香』
名前の由来の一つとして
楠は春の終わりごろに小さくて
目立たない薄黄色の花を咲かせ
る そして秋になると黒い実を
たくさんつける
シドウ:桐(きり)
『高尚』
名前の由来の一つとして
何度切っても成長するから
別名
｢女帝の木｣
｢狐の手袋の木｣
｢王女の木｣など
マヒル:椎(しい)
椎→『長寿』『勇気』『力』
(椎の実)ドングリ
『永遠の愛』『もてなし』
『愛は永遠に』『勇敢』
カズイ:椋(むく)
『子供らしさ』
名前の由来の一つとして
老木になると樹木の皮が
剥げることから
｢剥く(むく)の木｣とも言う
アマネ:桃(もも)
『チャーミング』『気立ての良
さ』
『私はあなたの虜(とりこ)』など
ミコト:榧(かや)
『努力』
コトコ:楪(ゆずりは)
『若返り』『世代交代』
『譲渡』
もしかしたら木辺の方かもです。
きへん＝ぎへん＝偽欺
自らの意図と能力を秘匿するために相手に誤った情報資料を計画的与える作戦行動なのだそうです
どこかに嘘が隠れているって考えてみても面白いかもですね(誰
i'll try to keep this short: haruka's father likely left when his learning disability came to light with age, and due to this, his mother began abusing/neglecting him. it's not all that uncommon for neurodivergent kids to get abandoned by a parent, or even by both- be it at birth, or later in their life. for those who arent abandoned entirely, neglect, verbal abuse, or physical abuse is not unlikely. such things can destroy people, especially kids. i forgive you, haruka, i forgive you with the entirety of my heart.
いあｇれえ
he's most likely killed a dog and a little child- both complete innoccent bystanders that had nothing to do with his parents possible neglect- forgiving him for a crime as horrible as taking a childs life so easily just cus hes autistic seems ridiculous... while i understand hes not all there he seems to understand right and wrong and knows he did something horrible. I wish fans would think more about how the victim feels in this and how they deserve justice, and not just get swept up in their pity for the killers.
No father figure ☠️ /j
The questionnare for Haruka says that his family consists of him and *both* parents. The more optimistic theory is that he is around but neglects Haruka. The more pessimistic theory is that Haruka still considers him part of the family even though he left.
Yippie! He think his actions of killing things are right! Yippie!
memeを聞いてミルグラムを知って、この弱肉共食を聞いてハルカの沼に見事に落ちました。全員の楽曲・ドラパ聞いてミルグラムの沼にも落ちました。ミルグラム界隈の皆さん、これからよろしくお願いします。
いらっしゃい☺️👐
ハルカ沼いらっしゃい🤗
TRUEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
小さい子は 弟 とも考えられるし 過去の自分 とも
捉えられてこんなに深くまで考察することが出来るの最高です。
I just realized that haruka and mikoto are polar opposites with their votes Haruka having most forgiven votes while Mikoto has the most guilty votes
Yeah interesting....
Maybe it's because we can tell why Haruka killed them and kinda relate to be the last place for the parents so we can easy forgive him
But we don't know why Mikoto killed all the people. We just know he pretends to be innocent (He doesn't have DID I'm sure) which makes us not forgive him
Yeah I think so too but isn't this kinda a huge coincidence for
1 being polar opposites with their votes
And
2 both were in a competition to get to 1 Mil views first
I am not implying anything its just feels a bit weird
Hey I just found milgram today and I keep seeing people talking about votes. Could you pls explain what they are pls
@@meowwoem3031 basically Milgram is an interactive social project in which we analyze the mvs and try to find out the prisoners crimes and motives through the songs and lyrics extracted from their memories. We as the viewers can then vote on whether we forgive or not forgive the prisoners crimes.
I recommend watching one of the very first video on the channel which has a rabbit with horns in the thumbnail and watching the older mvs in order so that you can get the gist of it
i wonder... if haruka is the embodiment of "mentally ill person did a murder as a cry for help."
he keeps referring to himself as a victim and knows he's broken (as opposed to the environment around him?) ("the right future chose the wrong me" among other things) but wishes he wasn't. he wants to feel normal and human and maybe that's why he did his first murder, but it ended up not really helping satiate the void in him. as he grew up he couldn't resist his impulse to kill when he got frustrated i suppose? (my thinking is a little muddy here and would appreciate help in comments lol). idk when his mom called him crazy and he responded with "lol thanks for the praise" it made me think he just wanted someone to "notice him" before it was too late (i.e. before he did it again).
either way idk what i'll be voting him as... as much as i want to think he's not guilty, mental illness is your responsibility even if it isn't your fault. thoughts??
I think this alright since he is technically a 'disappointment' and he knows that himself through out the whole music video. A victim of lack of love due to his own insecurities. A lot of people wrote theories about the video. For me, I think he's guilty, he ended up killing and hurting others due to his frustration of not being loved.
From his whole situation, Haruka probably lacked love due to a disability (since he did dropped out of school, which is kinda presented from the lyrics in Japanese due to the context usage). Haruka's MV is definitely full of child-like doodles that kind of represent fireworks, however each firework kinda drawing seem like a symbol for something. They were blue when it was with Haruka, but they were all colorful with the two kids. Another thing to point out is that one of the drawings looked like a dahlia. A dahlia has different meanings but I like to focus on the one color blue, which is Haruka's main theme color. A blue dahlia does not exist so it means something unattainable. Just like his want for affection does not exist.
Splendiferachie i fully agree with you
0x aca i don’t think so becouse every one have killed Ore Support it the only different is that he probable killd a human and now the inportent part it was not his fault ist was the fault of his mother and Society this is Why he is inocent to me
@@lucydh3758 I do understand what you mean. However, even though if he's not guilty to you, it does not excuse that Haruka committed a crime (which usually gives you a sentence for life for what he has done.) His mother and father are partly to blame for his state since his 'disability' is really presented in the MV and you could see from the official Twitter that most of his word choices are rather similar to a grade-schooler's
@@mizumi_kaori dont ask on her comments
切なくて苦しくて、とても好きな曲だけど これが2審でどうなるか楽しみ。1:56 ここの掠れ声めちゃくちゃ好きすぎて、、堀江さん天才か？となっている。真似出来ん…
1:55？
第一審の8人分のMVを見た上で、一番感情的な部分で共感したのはハルカ君かな...
理想とかこうありたいっていう私の考え方とは違うけれど、でも、共感してしまう。
ミルグラムの囚人達みんな、私の心の中にある罪を具現化した存在なのでは...？
私は実際に罪を犯したわけじゃないけど、心の中にはその罪の原因となった感情とか考えを多かれ少なかれ持ってる気がする。
だから共感したんだと思う。
いちばん楽しかった頃を小さい頃と答えてる当たりやはりmvに出てくるハルカ似の子供はハルカくんの過去の頃の姿なんだろうな……
3:30から歌の裏でセリフ入ってるの鳥肌たったし何回も聴いてしまうありがとうございます
そして始まる前のチャット最高だったみんなありがとう
愛される弱者になりたいのわかるなぁ
苦しそうに言ってるのがホント辛い…ハルカくん報われて…
ほんとに有罪にしたいですよね
2審を聞いてまた戻ってきた。
こんなにも聞こえてかたが変わるなんて思わなかったので震えている。
｢思い出に残っている出来事は？｣っていう尋問で『花火』って答えてたから、1サビでは背景に花火が描かれているのか
この曲がほんとにふとした瞬間も無意識に頭で流れてる…
DECO*27さんの曲はよく聞くけど熱狂ファンってわけじゃなかったのに、もう大ファンになりそう…
多分堀江さんのハルカ似合った歌い方のせいもあって本当に頭から離れない。勝手にリピート再生される
The fact that Mikoto's mv has more likes than Haruka's,,,, scary
Mikoto also has more likes than undercover
Now THATS what I call scary
hes getting all the attention he wanted lmao
@@--28281 yes he would be so happy if he knew
3 words : Hanae. Natsuki. Brainrot
@@angrygoat9099 I know
【長文注意】『弱肉共食』公開前ですが、できる範囲で考察してみました。
（※第一審にも同じものを投稿しています）
【001 ハルカ】『弱肉共食』
まず初めに、このタイトルは『弱肉強食』と『共食い』をかけているのでは？と考え、『弱肉強食』と『共食い』の意味から調べてみました。
すると『弱肉強食』には、私たちが知っている意味の他に、
【弱きものが強きものによって滅される】
『共食い』には、
【互いに利益を求めて、互いに不利益を得る】
という意味がありました。
つまり、『弱肉共食』とは、
【弱きもの同士が、互いに利益を求めて、互いに不利益を得た】
という意味なのではないかと考えられます。
しかし、そうすると『弱きもの』は誰なのか……そして、『利益』とは何なのか……。
まずは『弱きもの』から考えていきます。
『弱肉共食』はハルカの曲であることに加えて、『愛される弱者になりたかった』という歌詞があることからも、『ハルカ＝弱きもの』なのは間違いないと思われます。
しかし、『弱肉共食』の解釈が正しいとするならば『弱きもの』は少なくとももう一人必要です。
そこで、『アンダーカバー』のMVに映された、ハルカの過去の回想シーンに注目してみました。
『アンダーカバー』で描かれたハルカの過去回想は、おもちゃの沢山ある部屋のベッドに腰掛けている様子でした。
それについて、『アンダーカバー』のコメント欄では、『病室なのでは？』などの考察が多く見られた様に思えます。
私も、初めはこの考察と同意見でした。というのもハルカが履いているズボンが、入院着やパジャマを彷彿とさせる質素なものだった事に加えて、『馬鹿でごめんなさい』などの自己否定的な言葉を口にしていることから、精神疾患によって病院に入院していたのではないかと考えていたからです。
しかし、一部疑問を感じていた点がありました。
それは、部屋に置かれている積み木、そしてうさぎのぬいぐるみと、ハルカがつけているネックレスです。
もし仮に、あの部屋が精神病棟だった場合、自傷行為や自〇防止のため積み木やぬいぐるみを置くことはかなりのご法度です。
（積み木で職員を攻撃したり、うさぎの耳などで首を締めるかもしれないため、基本的に危険物になりうるものは徹底的に排除されます）
ネックレスも同様の理由から、精神病棟に入院していた場合、身につけている可能性は低いのではないかと思われます。
（もちろん、患者さんの状態によって多少の違いはあるので絶対ではありませんが……）
これはあくまで可能性ですが……。
私は勝手に、この部屋をハルカのものであると決めつけていました。
しかし、実は『別の誰かの部屋である』という可能性もあるのでは？
そしてその場合、恐らく持ち主はもう一人の『弱きもの』でしょう。
では、『弱きもの』に当てはまる存在、かつ積み木やクレヨンで遊びそうな……部屋の持ち主は誰か。
……ひょっとすると、ハルカには『弟』がいたのではないでしょうか？
（ベットシーツの色などから『妹』でなく『弟』である可能性が高いと思われます）
そう考えると『弱肉共食』における『利益』とは恐らく……
『親の愛』……であったと考えられます。
積み木やクレヨンで遊ぶ年齢の子供は、恐らく『弱きもの（=弱者）』と呼べる存在ですし、『親の愛（=利益）』を求めるのはあたり前です。
そして、ハルカは『親の愛（=利益）』を（返して？）欲しかったのだとすると、『弱肉共食』の訳との辻褄が合います。
残念ながら、現状『弟』の存在を示す物的証拠は見つかりませんでした。
ですので、ここから先はあくまで状況証拠に基づいた仮説になります。
ハルカは、俗に言う『搾取子』だったのではないでしょうか？
『搾取子』とは、自分の親から金銭的や労力的に搾取される子供のことを指します。
そして、搾取子に兄弟がいる場合、兄弟間で、『弟にだけおもちゃを買い与える』『兄のため以外にお金を使わない』など、扱いに不当な差をつけられるケースが多々ありますが、ハルカもその一人だったのではないでしょうか。
そう考えた場合、
〇おもちゃのたくさんある部屋に対して質素なズボンと靴であること
〇『アンダーカバー』の冒頭で【ひとりぼっち 愛をちょうだい】とハルカが歌っていること
〇『馬鹿でごめんなさい』というハルカの発言
〇ミルグラム公式サイトでの『生まれつき人を不幸にするのが得意』という発言
の説明になると思われます。
（弟にはおもちゃなどを買い与えられたが、ハルカには服すら惜しまれた、もしくは病気がちで疎まれた？）
（家族の中に居場所がない=ひとりぼっち と表現した？）
（あまり要領が良くなかったため親に疎まれていたのでは……？）
（母親にとって望まない妊娠だった……もしくは出産と同時に母親が亡くなってしまい、父親から恨まれた？）
もしこの仮定が正しいのだとすれば、『弱肉共食』の解釈……
【互いに利益を求めた結果、互いに不利益を得る】
とは、『ミルグラム』に収容されているのが全員『人〇し』であることも考えると、
【親の愛が（返して？）欲しくて弟を〇した】
ことなのではないでしょうか。
そして、だからこそハルカは『弱肉共食』で
【愛される弱者（弟）になりたかった】
と歌っているのではないかと……。
あくまで状況証拠を元にした仮説なので正しいかは分かりませんが、もしそうだとすればハルカの悲痛な願いがとても悲しいですね……(；-；)
かなりの長文になってしまいましたがお付き合いありがとうございました🙌
あの…もしかして天才ですか？
やばい、涙出てきた、やばい…()
まだ全部聴いて無いのに....
天才ですか？
( ﾟдﾟ)ﾎﾟｶｰﾝ
………あの、脳みそ交換しませんか？
す、すげぇ…
あの、この考察を踏まえた上でなんですが、
ハルカは幼い頃に両親が死んで、新しい親、もしくは親戚に引き取らて、最初は可愛がってもらえた。が、弟(妹)ができたことにより、義両親が弟(妹)ばかりを可愛がり、ハルカは愛して貰えなくなった。というのはどうでしょうか？
……………ハルカとしてのほりえるの魅力が最大限に出てる曲だと思った。サビ前の無気力さとかサビの訴えの力強さとか………最高や…もうやばい……涙が止まらねぇ
rewatching this it's really painful how haruka in his head is aware of his problem but because irl he lacks vocabulary and education he can't solve it himself so he relies on others... but it seems like he chosed a bad influence rn :(
the artstile changed so damn much in 2 years
I liked the old one more...
It was artsy and creative. I liked the more surreal looking symbols in most videos and the sketchy art style.
Okay, heres what I picked up from the music video, Haruka may have a verbal learning disability. This would explain some of his behaviors in the video. The way Haruka views the world seems to be very messy and confusing, hinting that he may have trouble understanding some concepts and questions the why’s and what’s around him. It seems to me Haruku has the mindset and intelligence of someone much younger than he is. I think he killed out of frustration and the need for attention, not being able to differentiate negative attention from positive, he acts out because he has the stability of s young child and wants to be seen. This is just how I saw it though
馬鹿でごめんなさいがささって、弱肉共食って言う題名すらも心にグサッとささって(考察見るだけで全然よく分かってない)けどめっちゃ楽しみにしまくってる
僕に気づいて、誰か気づいてよって心にくる...
3:16 ここからほんとにやばい...涙流してるし...泣きながら笑うのグッとくる...
0:00 母親のネックレスとかなのかな...
2:52 泣きそうに歌うのほんとつら...
もう赦すか赦さないかの投票出来る...どうしようか...
ミルグラムって確か映像にも色々仕掛け(?)が仕組まれとるんよね……？
でもCDだと映像見れんぞ？？
てことは、もしやTH-camでフルで聞ける…………？:(´◦ω◦｀):
四葉
CDはもう一曲入ってますよ〜！
あとはボイスドラマもありました！
I'm a bit late to the party but I wanted to add my thoughts of interpreting this song anyway o/
I’d like to note that I’ll use the voice drama as reference, but the information drawn from there are all from a third party, since I couldn’t find a translation of the drama.
Also it's a very long text, so be aware of this ;;;
it's like,,, 1,7k words jfdkslsw
Based off comments and other theories I read in the comments section I'm pretty sure that the young boy in the video is probably not his brother but indeed his younger self.
My main reasoning is because we actually don't see anyone's actual face in the MV, except for Haruka himself.
So if it really were his brother, his face would also be hidden, in my opinion.
I mean even the dog was portrayed in this abstract way.
I think it's pretty safe to say that Haruka has been abused by his mother, it's especially evident in the second verse, where he says "Its fine, it's my fault. It's enough, I'm a disappointment" and also his behavior in the voice drama points to him getting at the very least verbally abused by her. This also likely lead to Haruka getting a warped perception of love, of how he probably thinks that getting attention being loved.
Cue to him basically begging for attention in the chorus, as well in the 2nd pre-chorus, "You praised me by saying "you're crazy." Thank you, I'll do my best". If saying you're crazy is smth positive in his mind, then I wonder what the fuck Haruka is getting told by his mother normally. Like this is some prime fucked up shit
Now to his suspiciously absent father.
I think it's very likely that he left both him and his mother, most likely due to a divorce.
Now looking in context to Haruka getting blamed for everything, we can conclude that it must've been about Haruka to some extent.
What it exactly was about is hard to tell and there's no hard evidence, but I think that, as noted in another comment, Haruka might have some kind of learning disability.
Everything in the MV points to Haruka in a more childish light. Its abstraction with the doodles, Haruka waking up at 1:17 with the plush rabbit serves to make him more “childish” in a sense plus the low usage of kanji serve as further proof.
In addition he has a hard time understanding Es in the Voice Drama, describes himself as dumb etc.
Considering all this we can then theorize that his father and mother had a fight because of this disability, ending in the father leaving, thus the mother blames Haruka for everything.
Then the only person that’s left is this little girl, that seems to have a significant impact on Haruka’s life, despite the short screen time she actually has in the MV.
With this we can theorize that maybe, while he thinks of her very highly, that the opposite wasn’t actually the case. This doesn’t mean that she secretly hated him or anything, in fact she probably liked him, since we can see her actually laugh, contrasting the mother, whose expression is always hidden.
But maybe to her, he was just another playmate, while Haruka, affection starved he is, sees this in an entirely different light.
The whole scene followed up by the chorus going “Please notice me”can definitely be interpreted as the girl just viewing Haruka as just another playmate.
EIther way, whatever the relationship ended up being, we can safely assume that he probably killed her, but is in heavy denial about it. (1:16)
Now that this is all done with, let’s talk about Haruka himself!
First let’s examine something that caught many people's eyes:
The doodle in the bridge (1:28)
Here we can see Haruka and his mother on the right while on the left is some weird monster.
But what’s below them?
There’s this weird crudely drawn sinister person?
Actually we see this figure earlier in the song at 0:39
It’s behind the older/present Haruka, and maybe this is how he sees himself, or to be me exact, his current self, since the younger him is still drawn happily.
Then what’s up with the monster on the left?
Well this is very unclear, but my guess would be his father, as based of the statements made prior, he left his family, making him a bad person in Haruka’s eyes
Now having all figures in the doodle assigned, we can actually conclude that those drawings then must’ve been drawn by the current Haruka, why else would there be the crudely self portrait there.
Interestingly enough this also means he sees his younger self as a separate person or at least regards his past self as different from his current one.
Then to another matter that might’ve not been noticed by everyone, the use of yellow flowers, presumably roses.
Yellow roses are usually used as a sign of jealousy and in the context of the MV it does fit really well.
The first instance of the flowers showing up is at 1:04, after he sees his past self and the girl running hand in hand.
The second one is at 1:42 is when he follows the dog into the woods.
An interesting note is that the yellow roses were always shown in context with the victims he murdered. So with this information, it’s safe to say that he killed the girl and the dog out of jealousy. Presumably because they were both loved or got attention.
On another note it’s also interesting to see the lack of reaction of others by the girl’s death ,so I think he prolly didn’t get caught for that murder, while the murder of the dog was seen/noticed by the mother, who then in response left him/cut off ties with him.
And lastly:
Haruka’s last victim in the MV.
Since I’ve already established that in my theory that the younger person isn’t his brother but Haruka himself, it’s most likely meant to be a metaphorical death… or is it?
I personally think that there’s a good chance that he committed suicide for several reasons.
First, doesn’t his necklace… kinda look like a noose? The color and how closely it hugs his neck, it makes me really think of a noose. Of course you can now brush it of as coincidence, but the whole motiv of drowning, the verse “I was falling, I was falling down” and the strangling of his younger self at the end combined makes me really think that Haruka tried to commit suicide by hanging himself.
Maybe it was after he remembers the murders he did, as he always woke up at the end of a chorus following a murder, gasping, accompanied by the text “Yes, it was me.”
Other motives that could have motivate his suicide is that he really doesn’t regard himself highly in any way. The way he crudely presents himself in his doodles and the line “How many more times do I have to do this so I can become human” are evidence for his low opinion on himself. Then combined with his mother leaving him after the dog’s murder, I think it’s more than likely he could’ve committed suicide.
Of course he survives, or else he couldn’t be here, but in the end, the younger self “corpse” is still there, so despite surviving, a part of him died.
Maybe this is in reference to his innocence, as him smiling with tears combined w the phrase “Yes, it was me” looks like a realization or at least acceptance that yes, he killed the girl and dog, thus the young him who was so happy died.
So to summarize,
Haruka was born with a learning/development disability that caused distress to the family, leading to the father presumably divorcing his mother and leaving.
His mother now alone proceeds to blame Haruka and verbally abuses him regularly, to a point where Haruka keeps apologizing at everything, while stuttering a lot. Now he confuses attention with love and craves for it, whether negative or positive. It’s also worth to note that Haruka never really blamed his mother
Then at some point in his young life he met a girl with who gave him some positive attention and the closest he felt to love, making him fall in love with her.
But unfortunately he wasn’t nearly as important to her as she was to him and jealousy built up, resulting to Haruka presumably killing her. But Haruka in heavy denial doesn’t realize this really.
Life continues and Haruka gets jealous of their presumably family dog, probably because they got more attention/loved, and proceeds to kill that dog as well.
Still, he doesn’t register said dog’s death as well, but unlike the girl’s death, the mother notices and calls him crazy and abandons him fully as well.
Now left truly left alone he commits suicide out of desperation, survives and now possibly remembering the murders he committed.
Whether Haruka is now guilty or not is tricky, since he did (most likely) kill at least one human person and a dog.
But when you regard his likely disability as well as life of abuse, it’s hard to fully blame him.
So how guilty is really?
Regardless of verdict, I just want my boy to go to therapy already T_T
Other neat stuff i like:
The necklace he constantly wears is most likely from his mother and I really like how close it is to his neck, feels really restraining and just shows so well how much control she really has over him.
The animation of the chorus, especially the laughing part is just so painful and desperate
hug him T_T
His hair bang covering one of his eye is a really neat way to show that he doesn’t have a clear grasp of his reality and how fcking warped his perception is. Even if it is a bit on the nose.
The part where he runs with the girls, the background doodles kinda look like fireworks. I wonder if he was playing with her on a summer festival or similar. Either way looks really cool
The song is really a banger
Everyone is talking about how its about him murdering his mom, but I think its more he murdered a childhood sweetheart who said they didnt like him anymore, and he just didnt want to grow up. The little boy is just him looking back at a younger version of himself. Many serial killers keep tokens of murders, thats what the necklace is.
@Michelle La1 Spotify
I don't know how old you are but your teacher would be proud of you for this accurate and detailed analysis. The way you explained it even I could understand xD Sadly im pretty late to this project too but that doesn't matter
I came so late but thanks for the explanation! I was having trouble figuring this one out.
I definitely agree with this, but i think that he didnt murder the dog but instead he didnt bring back the dog. As you mentioned he was jealous, then as seen in 1:45 he stopped and looked back as if he was planning to go back to his mom without the dog. And while walking back he looked at his hands and probably thought that by not bringing the dog back safely, he felt as if the dog died because of him. Now it switched to his current self, we can see that he is hitting assumingly the dog which i think represents his anger towards the dog because in the previous lines of the song it said that the way his mom compliments him is by saying "you're crazy" which happened after he went back to his mom and now he couldnt forget about it until he got older. I think this is the result of not bringing his dog back.
Im sorry if this was hard to understand english is not my first language
つまり100万回再生行けばエスが歌ってくれる…と。
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あと4,008再生されれば100万…！
〈同日〉
100万達成！！！おめでとう！
エスver.楽しみですね…！
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不意ですよね。出ましたね…あぁ…良かった…(語彙力)
ハルカよりは感情は無いんだけど曲の雰囲気の影響で合ってるんよね…良かった…
これはリピするしかないな(決意)
あとちょっとやね！
出ましたね……！！
間違っていたのは、そう、僕だったんだ。ってフレーズ狂おしいほど好き
概要欄見たら歌詞が大体平仮名で、比較的簡単な字は漢字だったんだけど義務教育はろくに受けてないのかな…
年齢はっきり覚えてないらしいけど、学校にずっと行ってなければそうなってもおかしくないかも
追記
ミルグラムの説明でうさg(((ジャッカロープが、心象が歌と映像になるって言ってて歌詞の表記にもそれが反映されるのかな、って思いました
水は殺害方法とかではなく、自分の涙に溺れている(精神が参っている)状態ということですかね...？
くらい水の中にいるのは必ず今のハルカで、ラスサビで明るい光の中にいるのは幼少期のハルカで...またがっているときには両方に光が差し込んでいたから、過去の自分を認めてハッピーエンド！！と信じたい...
ごめんみんな頑張って考察してる中、
ハルカの笑い方すこすこのすこっていう語彙力の無い感想しか出てこない
この曲の最後のところで歌ってる声と
重なるように同じ言葉のセリフがあるところで
ハルカくんの気づいて欲しいって
気持ちがめっちゃ伝わってきた…
『そう、ぼくだった』のところが
めっちゃゾクってきた…
I am autistic and adhd, but did not get diagnosed until I had almost finished school. I relate to a lot of the lyrics and the way Haruka thinks of himself. Hating how childish you are and wishing you could be normal like everyone else but never being able to, among other things. I think he might possibly be special needs or on the spectrum hence his childish nature and struggles with growing up, and that he resorted to murder from the stress his mental struggles caused him
He IS special needs
最近堀江さんを好きになってキャラソン聴き漁ってたらこれに辿り着いたんだけど外国の方のコメントも多くてびっくりしてる…にしても堀江さんの演技力というか表現力えぐすぎる……
みんな弟説推してる？感じがするけど僕は過去のハルカくんかなぁって思った
理由？みたいなのはお母さんも小さい女の子も顔が塗りつぶされてる？感じがするのにハルカくんと男の子だけなんだよね顔が塗りつぶされてないの。まぁ犬もなんだけど人間でいうと顔が見えるのはハルカくんと小さい男の子だけだから小さい男の子は過去のハルカくんなんじゃないかなって思った。
低めの男性キーなのに一オクターブ上げた瞬間超高音裏声確定ソングになるの歌として難しすぎる
ラストのシーンでハルカが男の子の首を絞める直前に手を出す演出があって、一番のサビの直前でも女の子に向かって手を出す演出があったから女の子もワンチャン殺してるっていう説があるのかなあ…。結局のところ男の子がハルカにとってのなんなのかが気になる。MVで顔が見えてるのがハルカと男の子だけだから過去のハルカっていう可能性もあるし、「不平等にこいをした」とか「スタート位置がちがうまま始まった」とかの比較しているような歌詞から弟とかの可能性もある。「愛される弱者になりたかった」とか「ぼくに気づいて」という歌詞とMVの様子から見て家族絡みで何かあったというのは分かるけど結局のところぜんっぜん分かんないですな…。
[追記] もう少し考えてみたけど、この曲のタイトルもなんか意味ありそう。「弱肉共食」てさ、「弱肉強食」という四字熟語を元にしてるよね。弱肉強食の意味としてはさ、簡単に言えば「強い者が弱い者を食らう」とかそんな感じだよね。だったら弱肉共食は「弱い者を共に食らう」とかそんな感じの意味になるのかな。エスもアンダーカバーでハルカが出てきた時に、「赦すなら共犯者」て言ってたからそんな感じの解釈になりました。それでこの歌詞とMVのハルカの行動を見て個人的に思ったことは過去のハルカ、もしくは弟？である男の子が仲良くしてる者が今のハルカに対してどう思ってるかを確かめてみたかったのではないのかな、と思った。サビの「愛される弱者」というのは多分この男の子のことだよね？「否定をしていた」というのはハルカが他の人はハルカに対して愛を向けていないというのをハルカは否定したかったみたいな感じだと思った。「どうしても確かめてみたかった」はその愛情の確認？その歌詞の直後に手を出すシーンが出てきたということは自分に愛を向けていないというのが確認できたから精神が不安定になって殺してしまったという線がでてくるんですよね。まあこれも全部ただの予想だから全然違うということもあるんですが。笑
後は、「だれでもできること ぼくにもできたらな」という歌詞もちょい引っかかった。誰からも愛されていないから男の子が女の子と仲良くしてる、みたいなことが自分にはできないという理由でこういうこと言ってるのも分かるけど、なんか深い意味が他にもありそう。関係ないけど、この歌詞に限った話じゃないけど平仮名多くない？と思った。やはりそこにも何かしらあるのかなぁ…と考えました。
「くるってるってほめてくれた ありがとうがんばるよ」という歌詞もなんか怖いと思った。これはどういう方向で解釈すればいいんだろ。ハルカの行動に気づいた周りが「狂ってる」と怯えながら言ったけどハルカの中ではそれが「周りが自分の存在をハッキリ認めてくれた」という認識になってハルカにとってはその言葉が嬉しいみたいな感じに変わってしまったとか？それが合ってるなら本当に愛情に飢えてたんだなあ、と思った。
でも人を殺してもなお、「間ちがっていたのはぼくだった そうぼくだったんだ」て言ってる辺り自分のおかしさに気づいて罪悪感を感じてるようにも見えた。でもなぁ…この解釈だと100パーセント赦す方向になってしまうんだよなあ。赦さないという選択肢が見えづらい。だから第二審と第三審でもしっかり考察してハルカを赦せないと思えるような部分もしっかり捉えていこうと思った。
追記と言ったのに追記前の文より長いとはこれいかに() ここまで読んでくださった方には本当に感謝です。長文であるが故に文法めちゃくちゃだと思いますが本当にそこは申し訳ないです…。曲としてはこんな感じの狂気感ある曲なのに中毒性があるのは流石DECOさんというかなんというか。堀江さんの声もめちゃくちゃかっこいいし、MVも凄い綺麗なんですよねぇ…。これからも楽しみです！
i think this is my favourite song in all of milgram so far, the chorus is just so catchy and it’s such a banger
shidou’s second song just came out, and while it is a banger, this still remains my favourite
@@leeshapon same.. or after pain.. both are good, but itll be hard to be better than this.
Ahaha~
神曲ありがとうございます…!!好きです()
涙って、右目から流れるのが嬉し涙、左目から流れるのが悲し涙らしいです。
2:34〜左目から
2:49〜右目から
3:17〜左目から
3:38〜両目
あと流れる量で感情の大きさも違ったと思います…(うろ覚え)
なので最後の両目からのは、悲しさよりも「気づいて」貰えた嬉しさが勝ってるのかなと思いました
皆さんの考察見ながらもう1回聞きます！！リピ確！
このコメ見て考えてみました
2:34 3:17の所は気づいてくれない事に悲しみを感じている(最初は少しでも見てくれてたのにみたいな)、そのあとは夢から覚めたような描写があるので一度やってしまったことをずっと引きずっていてPTSDのような感じでフラッシュバックしていて、間違っていたのは僕だったんだと、自分を責め続けている。間違っている自分が嫌になって悲しくなって左から涙が流れている。
2:49の右目からは、(妄想になるかも)いないものも、いらないものも、生きてるかもしれないとおもって、少し嬉しくなった(そう思わせられるようなことがあった？)。恐らくこの曲ではハルカ君は自分をいらないものと思っている。
3:38の両目からは、認めてもらえた、気づいてもらえた、そして嬉しいが勝っている。でもやっぱり狂っている僕はまだいて、間違っていたのは僕だったとまだ、悲しいのかなと思いました！ハルカ君は人が思っている自分になりたい、自分のなりたい自分とかけ離れていても気づいてもらえるならと思ってたのかな…その自分になれるようにがんばった結果、愛されない弱者になってしまったのかな。そして愛される弱者になりたかったと言っているのかと思います。
まだミルグラム新参者、考察初心者なので、全然違うと思いますが、この考察も見ていただけるとありがたいです。
長文と2年前のコメントに失礼しました。
@@えれさん2525
ただ悲しい、嬉しい、だけではなくこんな経緯でそう感じたのではないかというえれさんの考察に頷きながら読ませていただきました…！過去の私では言語化出来ずにもやもやしていた部分が解消されたので本当にありがとうございます…！
ミルグラム良いですよね👍
@@リア-u3l8r 読んでもらえて嬉しいです！頷きながら読んでもらえるなんて！!！
ほんとミルグラムいいですよね～!
㊗️100万回再生！！👏👏
ハルカくん､君の心象風景が100万回も観てもらえてるよ
もう君は間違いなく愛されてるよ
ここにいる皆はハルカくん推しなんだよ！そして私もその中のハルカくん推しの一人だ！
HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA HARUKA
EY WATARU PFP
HARUKAHARUKAHARUKAHARUKAHARUKAHARUKA
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My thoughts exactly
Me too bro
real
this song is about killing the self. he wants to go back and kill his own younger self out of guilt. when you look back and watch it, the point is that he lives dissociated from everyone except his past self. only when he (metaphorically) kills his past self does he finally realize he doesn't recognize himself, and he feels relief out of it. there never was a younger brother, it's all him. for stuff like the dog, you'll notice the dog escaped, and was bleeding. he, when younger, found his dog wounded and dying and decided to kill him out of mercy in a desperate and brutal but ultimately compassionate death. that's why he cries and is happy at the end, because he wishes someone would kill him as a kid so he would not suffer his entire life through pain and guilt. he wants to suffer a mercy kill. and he does it to himself because he believes no-one else would. no-one else understands the concept of a mercy kill the way he does
milgram rlly do be getting wild ngl
Sorry for being late. I agree with the idea that the kid is Haruka himself, but I think the reason why he smiles at the end is that he was finally found and "noticed".
As for the dog part, I'm still not sure about its meaning (heck, I'm not even sure that's a literal pet and not a metaphor for a person), but the fact that he switches to his grown-up self when he strikes it with the rock tells me that perhaps he was not "the same person" when he did it. Maybe it's suggesting that in that moment he lost his innocence?
@@Zakaker i think the switch to the grown up self is to show that even to this day he blames himself for it and bears the burden even if it was a mercy killing
Yea I agree because it could fit with the part with the first young girl. When he was looking at his past self he saw him with her, so maybe that was a first crush or friend, and she hurt him or left him. And he wanted to free himself for that past pain, especially since he probably also has a learning disability and is still in a very childish state of mind and is still hurt by that.
So I can t be sure but maybe he dislikes his past self , that he wants to be his past self to resolve the mistakes he made . He might just not liking his age because he feels hurt . We never see his grown up self with the mother so. . Maybe he became distant from her at that time. Also his young self didn t kill the dog ?.. he seemed to have blood on his hands and it s like the older self in his annoyance hit continuously something that might be the dog but it might be him that sees himself in his thoughts in the scene and do something he didn t in reality.MAYBE HE cries and laugh each time he sees that he lost something. He might not like dogs now but that might be because he saw a dog die even if it wasn t his dog or something like that or other . From what I saw we don t know who he killed or what he really did.
The key symbolism to understand this video is the spotlight ! So the lyrics are all about how he wants someone to "finally notice him". The spotlight shines on his dog, his mother, and the girl. When he's with him, he has the spotlight shone on him, representing how he has someone in his life that notices and cares for him. One by one they all leave him. The mother first as shown by the blur (blood?) on her face, than the girl with blood on her face again, and finally the dog. (that's what he was hitting with the rock, the dog was bleeding out and he put him out of his misery)
Now that everything that cared for him is gone, he's grownup all by himself in the dark/underwater. Nobody pays attention to him or cares about him anymore. He misses how happy he used to be as a child. He talks about "why did this future pick me!" in the lyrics, feeling he was screwed out by fate from happiness (which he kind of was).
Then he sees a kid that reminds him of him as a child, who has a spotlight. Out of rage and jealousy, he kills the kid. Finally he has the spotlight again because he got attention for being a murderer, so he smiles. All he wanted was for someone to notice him.
omg thank you!! this helped me get it!
also theres a bit where the young boy has the light on him, then wipes his face, notices blood on his hands and then the light has disappeared? i feel like that is somehow important but i cant understand what it exactly is.
あははの声が癖になって毎日聴きにきてしまう
｢あっはっは｣の声とMVが個人的に中毒
I keep coming back for the "aHahA " part 😭❤ Love how they incorporated that.
まって、、考察とか関係なしに胸がきゅってなった、、なんかもう、色々辛かったんだねって思いながら見てた、、考察じゃなくてごめん、、テスト前なのにどうしよ、ハマっちまう、、
ハルカくんを赦すときっと「自分は正しかったんだ」って思っちゃう気がするから今回は赦さない一択だなぁ
改めてすごいなぁ。DECO*27さんすごい。ホリエルすごい。山中さんすごい。スタッフの皆凄すぎて語彙力無くしちゃったわ
Oh my God the amount of theories you guys are capable of thinking of...there's more smart people here than I ever seen in my life
発達障がい説、凄い納得できた…凄いな…。
動画の中で今の？ハルカくんには青い光（スポットライト？）が当たってないんだよね。他の子には当たってるのに。
そして血だと思われる液体に目がたくさん描かれてるんだけど、血を出す（誰かを傷つける、殺す）ことで周りから注目されて｢気づいて｣くれるって事なのかなぁと。
動画の中の花とかも関係あるのかな
あまり関係ないかもだけど最後らへん裏でセリフとしてしっかり言ってる(?)んだね
これ字幕ボタン押したら歌詞がひらがなばっかなんですよ
ここまで作りこまれてるの鳥肌すぎ
@@huwarari9926 漢字は全部小学生漢字ですよ
Congratulations to 1 Million views for Haruka! The first ever prisoner song here in Milgram. Has it really been that long... I'm happy he finally reached 1M. Thanks to everyone who streamed his song to 1M for Haruka.
PVも曲も神すぎるけどこれだけ言わせて欲しい
ホリエルの声域広すぎ
ハルカくん、家から逃げた(？)イッヌと女の子が悪いと決めつけて殺めた説...？(それのせいで愛されなかった？)
殺めた時は自分が悪いなんて思ってなくて、大きくなってからヒトゴロシがどれだけの重罪か気づき｢間違ってたのは僕だった｣って言ってる...？
全然考察は出来なかったけど...
過去の過ちには反省してそうな気がした🤔
神曲、神MV、神声優さんでとっっても鳥肌が経ちました...
One interpretation: Haruka wanted to monopolise his mother’s attention to the point where he viewed any kind of attention from her as affection. He saw his younger brother as the reason for his mother’s “negligence” and, as a result, bullied him. Haruka then fell in love with a girl, possibly named Mirai, but she couldn’t reciprocate those feelings since she loved his brother instead, which drove Haruka to hurt her. Later, with a stone, Haruka killed the family dog his brother loved. His mother left or had to be separated from them after that incident when they were still young. In an attempt to regain his mother, Haruka drowned his brother and was discovered by the police.
This is assuming that the MV is telling his past in chronological order btw. Before dissecting various scenes, there are a few points to bear in mind.
1) The Japanese subtitles use few Kanji. Several Japanese comments have pointed this out already. If this was done intentionally, it implies Haruka stopped schooling/studying fairly early i.e. he committed his ‘sins’ at a young age. Might also explain why one of his phrases is, “I’m sorry for being dumb.”
2) The title can be transliterated as “Weak meat cannibalism”. This alone has various implications, but this is how I’ve interpreted it. Since Haruka views himself as weak, he likely views his brother in the same light. As for the cannibalism part, he doesn’t consume his brother literally but might’ve taken on some of his memories as his own or tries to emulate him.
3) The “blood type = personality theory” debate is for another time, but anything goes when it comes to anime characters. His type is AB, which is associated with being ‘dual-natured’. This aspect highlights how he fluctuates between being weak/reserved and having aggressive outbursts.
0:00 It opens up with him possibly wearing his mother’s necklace. He sits at a dressing table, implied to be hers by the perfume and cosmetics. Another thing to note is that the necklace’s stone has a green centre and purple outer layer. The same colours are used for the eyes seen within the MV. Could symbolise his mother watching over him, and since he wished for her attention, it’d explain why he continues to wear it now.
0:05 The reflection in the mirror flickers between Haruka and a young boy, which could symbolise how Haruka views his little brother as his replacement. The scene transitions to Haruka sinking in a body of water, shown by the splashes and bubbles. This water motif throughout the MV probably highlights how drowning his brother was his main sin.
0:20 We can see a drawing of a lady and a young boy. This could be his mother and his younger brother since the hand of the boy is outstretched and touching Haruka’s hand, implying that they were a family of three. His questions are directed towards his mother, but we can’t forget that these events are told through his eyes. Although Haruka might’ve felt that his mother changed, ignored him, gave his brother more attention, blamed him for those things, this might not be the case. His worldview is likely warped, and later on, there’s more evidence that this might be the case.
0:25 We can see the boy smiling, which is why I doubt that this child represents a Haruka at a younger age. The dissonance between the accusative, resentful lyrics and the cheerful images of the boy makes it unlikely that this is a representation of his past self.
0:36 Haruka pulls back his collar and we can see the frightened expression of his brother as he hesitantly looks up. It’s as if he already knows what the repercussion for clinging to their mother is. To put it plainly, Haruka torments him consistently out of jealousy.
0:39 We see Haruka’s dark expression and a drawing of a monster in the background. This is probably meant to represent Haruka and how either he himself, his brother, or both of them don’t view him as ‘human’, especially when compared to the previous drawing of his younger brother and the mother. Also, the “ダメダメ” his mother yells when she’s angry could be translated as “You’re hopeless”, but that’s probably Haruka’s interpretation. When “ダメ” is yelled and repeated like this, it’s commonly used to tell someone to stop doing something. His mother was likely telling Haruka to stop bullying his brother by grabbing him and pushing him into puddles etc.
0:42 We see the water motif again with the brother and a young girl in the background. 違った筈の未来は不平等に恋をした is how you’d likely write the lyrics in a more ‘standardised’ form. A lot of the meaning is lost when this is translated as “The right future chose the wrong me”. A closer version would be “The future, which was supposed to be different, fell in love unequally.” But, just saying, “未来” can also be used as a girl’s name, so another possible translation could be “Mirai, who was supposed to be different, fell in love unequally.” Even if the girl’s name isn’t Mirai, the gist remains the same. That girl preferred Haruka’s brother. I know some people have suggested that she’s their sister, but 恋をする is used for romance. Never heard it used platonically before. Again, the concept of her “falling in love unequally” might be Haruka’s misunderstanding and if that’s the case, which would parallel what he believes about his mother.
0:56 We can see Haruka’s brother being a mad lad and stealing his girl. Haruka also says that he wanted to be loved and this time he uses 愛する which is a more generic term for love, implying he craves love no matter what kind it is. His ‘denial’ could be that he believed his brother to be the root cause of all his problems. So, later when he says ‘I was wrong. It was me’ shows his realisation that he was responsible for driving others away. Another interpretation of that line will come later.
1:04 We see Haruka shrouded in yellow carnations. This specific flower represents rejection and disappointment, which further implies that he was rejected by the girl. We can see these carnations used later in the MV to represent Haruka himself.
1:07 The chorus tells us the obvious motive for Haruka’s ‘sins’; he wanted attention. But there are no scribbles, which would represent blood or death, during the scene where the girl’s shadow is between his hands. This could hint at how he hurt the girl, possibly by strangulation, but she didn’t die. If he did kill her, it’d be odd for the police to not get involved now, but later when he kills the dog. It’d make sense for his ‘sins’ to worsen over time and the consequences for committing those ‘sins’ to worsen as well.
1:20 Next is a sequence where Haruka is sinking again and we see all the doodles. No idea what Godzilla is meant to represent yet, but we can see the mother, the younger brother, and Haruka lurking at the left-hand corner of the screen.
1:30 When he says that “I’m fine” etc. it seems like an attempt to brush off his mother, who’s trying to find out why he’s behaving this way. She looks at him disagreeably when he claims to have “understood” what was happening. His explanation was likely a distorted view of the whole scenario. The family dog is lured into the woods by Haruka. His brother searches for it. In the scenery, we can see yellow carnations again so having his brother discover the corpse might’ve been his plan. We can also see how desperate Haruka is for affection when he mistakes his mother’s insult as praise. This might be a reason why he continues committing ‘sins’. He’ll take whatever attention he can get, and he doesn’t understand the reality of his actions. Haruka also asks how many times he has to do this to become human, which is linked to the aforementioned monster doodle of him.
2:14 Haruka says that his ‘starting position in life’ was wrong, implying that he might’ve wanted to be the second-born or even just an only child. His “My loneliness was desired” could either entail that he wanted to either have no siblings or he purposely pushes people away so that he can dump the blame on his brother. It’d explain why he was trying to brush off his mother earlier. Blood is spilled and we can see the chain, which the family dog wore. Strong evidence to suggest Haruka was killing it with the stone. He was discovered by a stranger or the police, judging from the look on his eyes and round light source likely coming from a flashlight.
2:26 Haruka continues to wake up with a toy bunny in his bed. It could be his brother’s room, symbolising his attempt to replace him or ‘regain his position’. If that is the case, then it’d make sense why he’s “not interested in his age” and claims to “cause misfortune for others around him” as mentioned in the character introductions. This leads me to the second interpretation of “it was me” since he might be so invested in ‘becoming his younger brother’ that his sense of self is fading. The boy might visually be what Haruka looked like when he was younger, and Haruka replaced his brother’s image with his own as if he wanted to experience childhood from his little brother’s eyes. Then again, this could be false, and the two brothers might just look nearly identical to one another.
2:41 From what he says, how he grips onto the necklace and cries, Haruka is likely referring to his mother at this point in the MV and wonders where she is. If the police were there or informed that Haruka killed the dog, it’d be possible that his mother had to give both of them up, especially if they also knew about the incident with the young girl. His younger brother might’ve been labelled as an accomplice, considering his hands were dirtied in the scene. Even if he was complicit, it was likely under Haruka’s instruction anyway, judging by how terrified of Haruka his younger brother is. On the other hand, if the light wasn’t the police, then the mother might’ve just up and left. I’m doubtful of that tho. Another thing to note, we don’t see any more of those green-purple eyes after she leaves, which could symbolise how she’s no longer there to watch over him.
2:52 In a final attempt to get his mother back or to ‘punish’ his brother, which he thought of as the wrongdoer, Haruka drowns him, shown by the blue background and the bubbles. From Es’s song “Undercover” we can see Haruka pushing his brother (represented by Es) into the water, and his brother gasping for air. Back to this MV, his lifeless body, indicated by the scribbles, is soaked and Haruka cries atop of him, realising that his brother wasn’t the problem.
3:28 At the end of the MV, we see the same light, implying that the police discovered him once again. Judging by his expression, Haruka finally understands that he was the one at fault.
Take this theory with a grain of salt. It can all be disproven since his 2 other trials/songs could be game-changers. Hopefully, it made sense anyway. Also, I haven’t studied for the JLPT in a while, so if any Japanese natives wanna roast me on any mistakes, feel free.
Is Haruka forgivable or unforgivable? He does seem to regret it at the end of the MV. In voice file 2 on his character profile, he apologises for it as well. If he did commit this sin when he was younger, I’d say that he has more of a chance of being redeemable. That’s all I can comment on for now. Who knows what might happen next? But, damn, this song was a banger. Can’t wait for more to be released.
Mai x This is REALLY GOOD.
i love this theory it makes sense,,,, i like how you interpreted the little kid and the girl cuz i didnt see lots of ppl talk abt the girl
aaaahhh didn't know that haruka has sibling!!!! I like this theory! This is really make sense with the mv!! Thanks for the theory! Btw you all vote him as innocent or guilty?
i voted guilty :( i feel bad for him but haruka hurting the dog made me vote guilty that made me really sad
I genuinely can’t believe i thought his younger self was his little brother when i first watched this
2:56の「あいされる」の「あ」の声の揺れ方？すっごい好き
狂った感じとか歌詞の内容もMVも全部が好きすぎる
中毒性やばい
堀江さん歌上手いっ､､､
第二審のMVからまた戻ってきた民なんですが、ずっと不思議に思ってたぐちゃぐちゃに描かれた絵達は発達障害の表れだったのでしょうか…(今更すぎる気づき)
[くるってるってほめてくれた]の部分は第二審のMVでハッキリと破壊行動によって自分を見てくれない親に見てほしい、という感情だと分かりゾワァってしました。弟に続き母までも殺してしまったハルカですが母のペンダントを付けているということはかなりの罪悪感があったのかなぁと1人勝手に思いました。勢いでの行動だったんだろうな…
赦したのが正解だったのかは分かりません。ただ少しでも救いがあれば良いなと思います。
考察班頑張れ‼‼❗
p.o.v: you just watched his 2nd trial mv and come back here to check something
Yes
Si
ja
Да
Oui
私の考察なのですが、もしかしたらハルカのお母さんは女の子が欲しかったのではないでしょうか?名前からの考察なのですが。でもそしたら何故少年は許されたという話なのですが女の子を連れていたのであの子はお母さんに娘のように思われてたのかも…?
ウワ〜〜〜ありそう……
母親の髪色も黒だし……ウワ……
女の子はともかく、お母さんが女の子欲しかったのは確定してますね…第二審ボイスドラマで言ってましたし
・所々に出てくる犬
・犬の足跡と一緒にあった血らしきもの
・お母さん？妹か幼なじみ？の存在
・潰していた死体は？
・僕の孤独は望まれていたんだという歌詞
・花の存在（意味深くらいに大量にある為）
・月と空の色について
・何故か舞台みたいなpv
くらいでしょうか？いくつかの手がかり並べておきました。
0:00母とかのネックレス??
床が子供の落書きみたい
隣にいる子は幼馴染み？？
楽しい暮らしをしてたけど何かをきっかけでハルカ自体が壊れたのか?それとも家族が崩壊したのか??
映像に出てくる少年は最初ハルカの幼少期かと思ったけど多分ハルカの弟なんじゃないかな。「ハズレだから」「僕の孤独は望まれてたんだ」「スタート位置が違うまま始まった」って歌詞もそう考えると納得がいく。母親らしき人と弟を羨ましそうに見つめているのは彼がネグレクトを受けていたからで、母親からの愛に飢えていた彼は弟を羨んでいた。それなのに弟は「不平等にこいをした」それは母親の愛さえ得られない彼にとって許容できるようなものではなかった。だから弟のこいした少女を殺害したがそれを弟が目撃し、母親の愛を得るために弟も殺害したが、そんなことをしても愛される筈もないことを知り、「間違っていたのは僕だった」と泣いたのではないでしょうか。長文失礼しました。
すごくありそうです！
PVで幼い男の子だけがうつっているシーンは、ある意味、叙述トリックぽっいかもしれません！(違ったらごめんなさい……)
It's already set in *stone,* Haruka is at 1 million
The manifestation finally worked
NO he's NOT!
2:14 で「スタート位置がちがうまま始まった」って歌詞にある辺りやっぱり何らかの障がいを抱えてたのかな…
「誰でもできることなのに僕はできなかった」的なことも言ってるし、学習障害や自閉症に…精神障害もあるかもな…
病んでる時に純粋に（考察とかとっぱらって）聞くと
凄く共感できるんだよね
アハハハハって狂うように笑いたくなって
（死にたいけど死ねない）
そして愛を求める
だから病んでる時に聞くと気持ちがスカッとする
（あくまでも考察を考えないで純粋に聞くと、ね）
I just discovered this project and now I'm hooked on it! Can't wait for season 2!
But I'm commenting here because I realized that every time Haruka kills someone or something, the spotlight shines on him. Especially at the end. I'm assuming it represents attention because he was smiling. If so...in a way, he's getting that attention alright 💀
(I'm still trying to figure out and understand every character so I could be wrong. I'm also like 2 years late so🤷🏾♀️)
Welcome! So how's your thoughts about Haruka's second MV?
100万回再生いってくれ〜〜！！一番エスくんカバーが聴きたい😭🙏
再生しまくろ……
ハルカくん100万回再生おめでとーー！！
今のハルカ見てからここに戻ってくるとこんな感じだったな...？？？ってなる
日本語
「ちがってたハズの未来は 不平等にこいをした」
英語
「The right future unfairly chose the wrong me」
(正しい未来は不平等に間ちがっていたぼくを選んだ)
日本語表記と英語表記の両方を見なければならないと実に感じました
英語字幕なんか知らんけど鳥肌立った
最後の光が警察とか(他の誰か)に見つかってやっと気づいてくれた って泣きながら笑ってる、っていうシーンにしか見えなくなってきて悲しくなってきた
長文失礼します。ミルグラムアプリでもコメントしたことなのですが、1:30 ぐらいで気付いたことです。
(以下、MV中の特徴↓)
背景にある樹木の絵はもしかしてバウムテストが元なのでは？、と思います。
・全体的につぶれたような木
・枝が途中で折れてるところがある
・葉っぱがない
・根っこがなく、地面が塗りつぶされている
・蝶々や鳥らしきものがたくさん飛んでいる
・地面に2匹の蛇
・枝は青で描かれているが、その上からなぞるように黒で描いている(塗りつぶしてる？)
・ハルカの弟(？)に当たっているスポットライト内にある枝は青でのみ描かれている
などなど、これらの意味を調べると符合することが多いな、と。
山中さんっぽいちりばめ方だなぁ(感動)
An update for anyone who doesn’t know. The votes are in and Haruka was forgiven.
Where do you go to vote/see voting results and other extra information? I'm very new to this.
Discount Shintaro In the video description there should be a link to the official Milgram website.
@@kokoro7996 Thank you
Discount Shintaro You’re welcome.
i don't see how he got innocent whilst futa got guilty haha
最初の方に香水っぽいの置いてあるんですけどそれはキャラクターそれぞれのイメージフレグランス的な何かが出るって解釈でいいんですねそうですよね
horie shun's voice really suit him so much! i hope haruka would get therapy though lmao he needs it
ハルカの誕生日だから聴きにきた
誕生日おめでとう、ハルカ
Haruka - Weakness (Romanji Lyrics)
Please let me know if there’s mistakes/errors!!☺️
Dōshite hanarete ku no?
Nē dōshite boku no seina no?
Iou to shita kotoba ga `hikyōda ne' tte boku o warau
Dōshite kowa rete ku no?
Nē dōshite kawaranaide yo
Iou to shite yametara `dameda ne' tte okoru kuse ni
Dare demo dekiru koto boku ni mo dekitara na
Chigatteta hazu no mirai wa fubyōdō ni koi o shita
Himei o shite ita himei o shite ita
Aisareru jakusha ni naritakatta
Hitei o shite ita hitei o shite de ita
Dōshitemo tashikamete mitakatta
Ah-Hah-Hah boku ni kidzuite
Ah-Hah-Hah dare ka kidzuite yo
Ma chigatte ita no wa bokudatta
Sō, bokudatta nda
Ī yo boku no seida
Mō ī yo hazuredakara
Kinō o kurikaeshite akirame tte daijidakedo
Ī yo yokunaikedo
Mō ī yo omottenaikedo
Shirou to shita tokoro de mata iya tte kao o surunara
Kurutteru tte homete kureta
Arigatō ganbaru yo
Dorekurai tsudzuketara boku wa hito ni nareru?
Gise i o shite ita gise i o shite ita
Boku no ko doku wa nozoma rete ita nda
Kakō o shite ita kakō o shite ita
Sutāto ichi ga chigau mama hajimatta
Ah-Hah-Hah boku ni kidzuite
Ah-Hah-Hah dare ka kidzuite yo
Ma chigatte ita no wa bokudatta
Sō, bokudatta nda
Hitotsu futatsu kasane tatte mata sugu kuzusa rete
Inai mono iranai mono doko ka de iki teru no?
Himei o shite ita himei o shite ita
Aisareru jakusha ni naritakatta
Hitei o shite ita hitei o shite de ita
Dōshitemo tashikamete mitakatta
Gise i o shite ita gise i o shite ita
Boku no ko doku wa nozoma rete ita nda
Kakō o shite ita kakō o shite ita
Sutāto ichi ga chigau mama hajimatta
Ah-Hah-Hah boku ni kidzuite
Ah-Hah-Hah dare ka kidzuite yo
Ma chigatte ita no wa bokudatta
Sō, bokudatta nda
Ah-Hah-Hah boku ni kidzuite
Ah-Hah-Hah dare ka kidzuite yo
Ma chigatte ita no wa bokudatta
Sō, bokudatta nda
youre a god for posting this thank you so much!!!!!!! im gonna sing the shit out of this
Merri No problem!! I want people to sing this masterpiece!! 💙🌼
thank you!!
thanks
Man they've seriously improved in animation. Of course this still looks absolutely amazing but that improvement and in just two years- wow💖✨
forgiving haruka with the eternity of my heart
Haruka 1mil and Es's MeMe cover is just around the corner now
Stay positive 💞
As someone who’s worked and lived with people with learning disabilities, this *hits hard*
最後の苦しそうな笑顔が大好き
やだこのコメント恥ずかしい
0:00の映像から神＝神曲だね
それ当たり前常識（）
HARUKA 1 MILLION PLS
MVに出てる青い月が気になって調べてみたら、神の祝福、奇跡、「夢叶う」。
考察、解釈にもよりますが、おぞましくてゾッとした。考察班、たのんます。