Ad’s, it’s functional and temporary, just hang a sign up saying “this is a temporary setup” lol😂 Great work team, I’ve binge watched all your series over the last 6 weeks, the first few parts of this single story extension, then the huge garden room, followed by the kitchen extension at Harborne, then onto the dormer loft. I love all the detailed explanations that has taught me loads as a DIY’er, Rich is my fav with his carpentry skills. Looking forward to seeing the end result of this job 👍
You wouldn't believe how many comments we get saying how shit we are for leaving the pipework like that!!! Really appreciate you watching all our videos Derek, that's amazing, thank you!
Hi. Thanks for posting these videos. I was doing renovations and building work in the Uk in the late 90's. I moved to Scandinavia 1999. I cannot believe that you guys are still building stuff like I used to do. I have been employed in..and then owned a building and renovation company here. Hey, you seem like you are doing a good job, this is not a criticism of you personally (in fact I would have wanted to employ you if you were here). But it amazes me that Britain has not moved on. The rest of us have developed and use new techniques. I love your videos but it is because it is a blast from the past. Maybe its the old British "We've done it this way for hundreds of years so that's how we are going to continue doing it" thing.......
Good video. I learnt about taking the push fit rubber fittings apart from Osma....although it seems to work on most other fittings and they are easy to put back together after you take them apart. Insert a screwdriver betweem the slot on the outside and flip the collar off. Then the pipe comes off and you just take the rubber off. The just press the collar back on once you have put the rubber back in place and reuse the fitting. I used to try and pull/waggle the fitting off the pipe...LOL Might be worth doing a video to show people how to do it.
Good evening Glen, that's a great tip, thank you. I'll give it a go and if I get the knack of it without breaking them I'll make a little video like you say...then when it goes viral we'll have to come to some arrangement regarding the profits! Cheers mate, appreciate it.
when i did mine I was actually doing the opposite - out of the loft via the eaves and then into the house. When I cored the hole, I used a piece of short pipe with a bracket on to gauge the stand off from the wall required :)
@@Mr_A_Builders I thought the pipe work looked great. A bit like the roof I was left with from cowboy roofers which resulted in the whole roof coming off and being replaced £9000 wasn't a happy man. If I wasn't an old git I'd do all my own jobs but after 2 resent falls of a hop up I think ill leave the ladder work to others. 😂😂😂😂😂
Just by an accident of the TH-cam algorithm I saw your first external extension video featuring the battle with the hedge/tree before any of these and I did wonder how the pipework became so "interesting".
Haha! We have had sooooo many comments about that with only a couple of people giving us the credit of correctly presuming that it's temporary! Appreciate you watching our videos and commenting mate, thank you.
Understand this is temporary and needs must, but it's worth noting I think that you have to be careful with the fall in horizontal runs of soil pipe. 1 in 40 to 1 in 110 by the book I think. Runs approaching 45 degrees like you have here may feel like they're better for drainage, but what actually happens is that the water from a flush drains too fast and leaves some of the solids behind in the pipe. That's the reason they only sell a few different angle connectors. It's supposed to be laid out with only horizontal runs of that fall going into vertical downpipes. You change the lengths of each section to make the angles work rather than changing the angles to make the lengths work. Again, I appreciate you already know all this but just for the education of anyone who comes to this video who doesn't.
Hello ComeWhatThey, hope you're well. You are right with the 1:40, which is more important when the pipes are in the ground. The main thing to remember is that the bends can't be too severe, things can get clogged up if they are. I've never personally had anything get stuck because a pipe is on too steep of an angle, but you're right in what you say about the "rules".
Respect Young man, now that it is clear to me that the work that I criticised was a temporary step, I'keep my mouth shut. In future, a remark from you during the first stage filming, pointing out " Temporary Works " will prevent unhelpful remarks from old school project managers like me. Regards John
Really useful video, thanks very much. Question for you - what do you do with old redundant drainage exit points from a house? How do you fill the openings (insulation, sealant, finish etc.?). Thanks.
Hello Phil, hope you're well. It's all temporary mate and will be removed in the coming weeks and replaced in different locations so I just used what I had laying around to keep the costs down.
@@Mr_A_Builders cool sounds good. Really informative videos especially the tree issue. Provided me with some insight into the wonderful world of building regulations, which will help when we plan our side extension. Keep up the good work. Great content!
Your near miss with the electric cable was a good example of why I recommended you do an SMSTS course mate... If that had been somebody you were paying and they died, you would 100% be in court and probably be going to prison. You were lucky this time, but it won't last forever. If you think I'm being over the top on safety take some advice from a H&S advisor and see what they say 😉
Richard, please, this is all getting a bit silly now. No one is doing anything intentionally dangerous, no one is going to die, no one is going to prison. We do appreciate you watching our videos though. Thank you
To save boxing in on a vertical drop, is it possible to 'chase out' the exterior wall and set the pipe in the cavity against the inner leaf? (Probably add a short lintel over the top of the chase)
I hope you have vents on both branches (I can see one on the gable end) but there needs to be one on the bathroom soil pipe. Also, the waste pipes should connect to the soil pipe above the soil pipe connection to the WC as there is a likelihood that the WC will drag the traps on the waste appliances unless they have their own air admittance. I appreciate that the systems are temporary but they need severe rationalisation. The designer of the extension should have shown how to arrange the drainage and Building Control should have required those details. I presume that the drainage is a combined system, what measures have been incorporated to separate the soil drains from the storm system? There has been a statutory requirement to separate storm and soil systems for decades but it has never been more important than now with too much storm water being directed down the combined sewers and the separate storm drains surcharging the storm system contributing to floods. There is no excuse not to direct all possible storm drains into soakaways especially when constructing domestic extensions.
Hello Clive, appreciate you taking the time to comment. I'm not sure that I agree with some of your points though although I accept that the theory is there, translating that into the real world doesn't always work. For instance, connecting the shower waste above where the toilet meets the soil pipe is impossible, the shower comes out under the floor and toilets approximately 200mm above floor level. My apologies if I've misunderstood your explanation. Regarding soakaways and your comment "there is no excuse not to direct all possible storm drains into soakaways". That simply isn't correct. Current building regulations state that , paraphrasing, all new builds need to have soakaways unless there's a reason why they can't. And there's lots of reasons why they can't such as heavy clay content in the ground, the fact that no every garden is big enough (I'm sure you know that they need to be 5m away from the structure) or suitable for a soakaway and each job is assessed separately by the building inspector and we do what they say. As it stands we haven't broken ground yet so no new underground drainage has been installed but rest assured that when it is it'll be completed to all current building regulations and inspected by fully qualified personnel. Make sure to subscribe and you can keep up to date with our progress! Have a great evening.
@@Mr_A_Builders Drainage is one area that ought not to be compromised. The principles of drainage have been developed over the last 150+years so experience is on its side. taking you example of the shower and soil pipe connections, the SVP could have simply been a vertical pipe and the waste connected at the levels you show with the soil pipe coming out turning down and then connecting into the SVP below the waste. The danger of the dragging of the shower trap can be resolved using a two pipe system. Having been in construction for 50 years and designing drainage systems for much of that time I have never come across any situation where the ground would not accept any degree of percolation except on rock. Even in heavy clay the soil will allow percolation and the soakaway should be designed for it. As regards the size the original standard was 3m from any building or boundary and I have had BIs accept that old standard that always worked. Modern crate soakaways are much more efficient and easier to accommodate than previous crude rubble filled pits or perforated drainage rings with concrete caps. Of course where the building almost fills the site then a drainage sewer must be utilised. We all have a duty to do our damnedest to design in soakaway systems because the construction industry must take responsibility for making matters worst, we are the cause of the excess water that surcharges the drainage systems into the sewage works and rivers. BTW its a sad fact that most LA BIs have less knowledge about drainage than they used to. Gone are the days when the BI would inspect the drainage and prove its construction by dropping a tennis ball down the system and wait for it to appear at the inspection chamber.!
@@clivewilliams3661 oh goodness... 🤦 That explains all the comments. Every builders nightmare.... The architects... Those who do things on paper, but don't understand that what happens on paper doesn't always translate into the real world. Leave the builders alone Clive. Every comment of yours on every video is bursting with self importance. You are not improving these builders views on Architects buddy.
How lucky were you, going through a cable with a saw. As a spark, I am appalled that the twin and earth has been exposed on the outside of the house, always should be in some form of mechanical protection, IE trucking or conduit. Very very poor, whoever did it. could have killed you man. Anyway, only just found your channel last week, loving your Videos, Keep it up my good man.
Well, to be honest, I noticed it a few weeks before then forgot, then BOOM! So I was a bit silly really but you're obviously totally correct regarding protection. Really appreciate you watching and commenting Allan, nice one! Hope you're well and busy, take care.
By the way, I love what youre doing to your house, I did a similar job to my sons house, didnt get any bricks nicked though, some people honestly. Im looking forward to the next episode on your house.
Why didn’t you just go with the height of the furthest away (lowest) drain from the main and use more vertical drop ins for the other 3? You have no way to rod that run either bro! Tut tut! lol 😝
Haha! Fair play mate! Granted, it's a long video on a not very interesting video. I reckon your comment is going to do a few people a big favour! Take care mate.
Ahh, a lot more informative than simply telling me the waste pipes were temporary, a master class cheers
No worries at all James. Really appreciate your comment. Take care.
I have zero interest in building, phoo pipes, stud walls etc - but I watch all of your videos start to finish, I'm mesmerised by them...
Haha! Really! That's ace! Why though, may I ask...?
@@Mr_A_Builders I don't know, I'm looking for the next one now...
We'll get some out over Christmas for you pal! Hopefully that'll see you through!
As someone who is hoping to start a self build soon, this is great viewing. Thanks for sharing!
Facial expression at 43:47 😂
Hi boys we all love long videos from you and all the guys brilliant to say the least it’s up to you best wishes Lincolnshire vermin clearance
This is my favourite channel. I love how you show and explain everything in detail 😊👍🏻
Thank you Daniel, really appreciate that comment mate, it means a lot
This video has really helped for an upcoming soil pipe installation I have pending. Many thanks...
Nice one, Carl. Hope it goes well mate.
Ad’s, it’s functional and temporary, just hang a sign up saying “this is a temporary setup” lol😂 Great work team, I’ve binge watched all your series over the last 6 weeks, the first few parts of this single story extension, then the huge garden room, followed by the kitchen extension at Harborne, then onto the dormer loft. I love all the detailed explanations that has taught me loads as a DIY’er, Rich is my fav with his carpentry skills. Looking forward to seeing the end result of this job 👍
You wouldn't believe how many comments we get saying how shit we are for leaving the pipework like that!!! Really appreciate you watching all our videos Derek, that's amazing, thank you!
Keep doing what you are doing guys. You will always get haters, but you guys can take it 👍
Hi. Thanks for posting these videos. I was doing renovations and building work in the Uk in the late 90's. I moved to Scandinavia 1999. I cannot believe that you guys are still building stuff like I used to do. I have been employed in..and then owned a building and renovation company here. Hey, you seem like you are doing a good job, this is not a criticism of you personally (in fact I would have wanted to employ you if you were here). But it amazes me that Britain has not moved on. The rest of us have developed and use new techniques. I love your videos but it is because it is a blast from the past. Maybe its the old British "We've done it this way for hundreds of years so that's how we are going to continue doing it" thing.......
Good video. I learnt about taking the push fit rubber fittings apart from Osma....although it seems to work on most other fittings and they are easy to put back together after you take them apart. Insert a screwdriver betweem the slot on the outside and flip the collar off. Then the pipe comes off and you just take the rubber off. The just press the collar back on once you have put the rubber back in place and reuse the fitting. I used to try and pull/waggle the fitting off the pipe...LOL Might be worth doing a video to show people how to do it.
Good evening Glen, that's a great tip, thank you. I'll give it a go and if I get the knack of it without breaking them I'll make a little video like you say...then when it goes viral we'll have to come to some arrangement regarding the profits! Cheers mate, appreciate it.
Outside wiring on a building wall like that here in the U.S.A needs to be installed into conduit pipes.
when i did mine I was actually doing the opposite - out of the loft via the eaves and then into the house. When I cored the hole, I used a piece of short pipe with a bracket on to gauge the stand off from the wall required :)
It's all coming together nicely lads👍
Cheers HI YES, we are very very nearly there, then the extension starts! Have a great weekend.
Change of pants required. 😂 I bet that woke you up!
Haha! Oh it woke me up alright!
Your face at the end. Priceless.. You leaving it like that 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Haha! Horrendous wasn't it...the pipes that is, not my face!!!
@@Mr_A_Builders I thought the pipe work looked great. A bit like the roof I was left with from cowboy roofers which resulted in the whole roof coming off and being replaced £9000 wasn't a happy man. If I wasn't an old git I'd do all my own jobs but after 2 resent falls of a hop up I think ill leave the ladder work to others. 😂😂😂😂😂
Great video mate
Cheers Jess!
Richard did by far the most important job🤣
He certainly did Billy, when I was left alone for 5 minutes I nearly electrocuted myself! Hope you're well mate.
Talking 💩 😂 Love all the details, nice to see a REAL builders blog 👍🏻
Haha! Cheers man!
Just found this channel, riveting stuff
Haha! Do I sense a tinge of sarcasm, Micheal??! We do have more interesting videos I promise!!!
@MR A BUILDERS not at all I watched video 3 then I was hooked good stuff
My apologies! Sorry man! Hope you keep enjoying them, thank you for watching and commenting! Take care.
The British plumbers still don’t know a thing about Sanitary plumbing.
Just by an accident of the TH-cam algorithm I saw your first external extension video featuring the battle with the hedge/tree before any of these and I did wonder how the pipework became so "interesting".
Haha! We have had sooooo many comments about that with only a couple of people giving us the credit of correctly presuming that it's temporary! Appreciate you watching our videos and commenting mate, thank you.
@@Mr_A_Builders As I was unaware of the existence of the loft conversion I assumed you had inherited the pipework.
No, we lashed it all up so it worked so the customer could move back. Now we're changing it and making it permanent as we go along.
Very draining video 😳🤣🤣 well done 👍👍
Haha! I see what you did there!
Understand this is temporary and needs must, but it's worth noting I think that you have to be careful with the fall in horizontal runs of soil pipe. 1 in 40 to 1 in 110 by the book I think.
Runs approaching 45 degrees like you have here may feel like they're better for drainage, but what actually happens is that the water from a flush drains too fast and leaves some of the solids behind in the pipe.
That's the reason they only sell a few different angle connectors. It's supposed to be laid out with only horizontal runs of that fall going into vertical downpipes. You change the lengths of each section to make the angles work rather than changing the angles to make the lengths work.
Again, I appreciate you already know all this but just for the education of anyone who comes to this video who doesn't.
Hello ComeWhatThey, hope you're well. You are right with the 1:40, which is more important when the pipes are in the ground. The main thing to remember is that the bends can't be too severe, things can get clogged up if they are. I've never personally had anything get stuck because a pipe is on too steep of an angle, but you're right in what you say about the "rules".
I have that exact same hammer , awesome bit of kit
It is isn't it! Are you binge watching all our videos?
Really great content, thanks
Great detailed video, well done.
Thank you Barry, glad you found it useful.
Respect Young man, now that it is clear to me that the work that I criticised was a temporary step, I'keep my mouth shut.
In future, a remark from you during the first stage filming, pointing out " Temporary Works " will prevent unhelpful remarks from old school project managers like me. Regards John
Hi good video, hard work. But pipes shouldn't be blocking windows 😂
Hello mate, just to clarify, is this a serious comment or pure comedy gold?
Really useful video, thanks very much.
Question for you - what do you do with old redundant drainage exit points from a house? How do you fill the openings (insulation, sealant, finish etc.?). Thanks.
Is it oK to use underground orange pipe overground if its boxed in and thus protected from UltraViolet light ?
Any reason why you didn’t go with black connectors on outside pipe? Is it getting boxed in?
Hello Phil, hope you're well. It's all temporary mate and will be removed in the coming weeks and replaced in different locations so I just used what I had laying around to keep the costs down.
@@Mr_A_Builders cool sounds good. Really informative videos especially the tree issue. Provided me with some insight into the wonderful world of building regulations, which will help when we plan our side extension. Keep up the good work. Great content!
Your near miss with the electric cable was a good example of why I recommended you do an SMSTS course mate... If that had been somebody you were paying and they died, you would 100% be in court and probably be going to prison. You were lucky this time, but it won't last forever.
If you think I'm being over the top on safety take some advice from a H&S advisor and see what they say 😉
Richard, please, this is all getting a bit silly now. No one is doing anything intentionally dangerous, no one is going to die, no one is going to prison. We do appreciate you watching our videos though. Thank you
To save boxing in on a vertical drop, is it possible to 'chase out' the exterior wall and set the pipe in the cavity against the inner leaf? (Probably add a short lintel over the top of the chase)
That's why twin and earth should not be run outside without additional protection.
Exactly!
Why are you using Brown underground soil pipe instead of the correct above ground pipe?
Continue watching...all will be explained...
why was below ground drainage used above ground?
Need to see alot more work and less waffling
You've got an unfortunate name for someone who doesn't like people shooting the breeze.
Bodgetastic on the electric connection "repair"
You spelt 'fantastic' wrong!
@@Mr_A_Builders eye speak moore better then thet wenn eye wear a children.
I hope you have vents on both branches (I can see one on the gable end) but there needs to be one on the bathroom soil pipe. Also, the waste pipes should connect to the soil pipe above the soil pipe connection to the WC as there is a likelihood that the WC will drag the traps on the waste appliances unless they have their own air admittance. I appreciate that the systems are temporary but they need severe rationalisation. The designer of the extension should have shown how to arrange the drainage and Building Control should have required those details.
I presume that the drainage is a combined system, what measures have been incorporated to separate the soil drains from the storm system? There has been a statutory requirement to separate storm and soil systems for decades but it has never been more important than now with too much storm water being directed down the combined sewers and the separate storm drains surcharging the storm system contributing to floods. There is no excuse not to direct all possible storm drains into soakaways especially when constructing domestic extensions.
Hello Clive, appreciate you taking the time to comment. I'm not sure that I agree with some of your points though although I accept that the theory is there, translating that into the real world doesn't always work. For instance, connecting the shower waste above where the toilet meets the soil pipe is impossible, the shower comes out under the floor and toilets approximately 200mm above floor level. My apologies if I've misunderstood your explanation. Regarding soakaways and your comment "there is no excuse not to direct all possible storm drains into soakaways". That simply isn't correct. Current building regulations state that , paraphrasing, all new builds need to have soakaways unless there's a reason why they can't. And there's lots of reasons why they can't such as heavy clay content in the ground, the fact that no every garden is big enough (I'm sure you know that they need to be 5m away from the structure) or suitable for a soakaway and each job is assessed separately by the building inspector and we do what they say. As it stands we haven't broken ground yet so no new underground drainage has been installed but rest assured that when it is it'll be completed to all current building regulations and inspected by fully qualified personnel. Make sure to subscribe and you can keep up to date with our progress! Have a great evening.
@@Mr_A_Builders Drainage is one area that ought not to be compromised. The principles of drainage have been developed over the last 150+years so experience is on its side. taking you example of the shower and soil pipe connections, the SVP could have simply been a vertical pipe and the waste connected at the levels you show with the soil pipe coming out turning down and then connecting into the SVP below the waste. The danger of the dragging of the shower trap can be resolved using a two pipe system.
Having been in construction for 50 years and designing drainage systems for much of that time I have never come across any situation where the ground would not accept any degree of percolation except on rock. Even in heavy clay the soil will allow percolation and the soakaway should be designed for it. As regards the size the original standard was 3m from any building or boundary and I have had BIs accept that old standard that always worked. Modern crate soakaways are much more efficient and easier to accommodate than previous crude rubble filled pits or perforated drainage rings with concrete caps. Of course where the building almost fills the site then a drainage sewer must be utilised. We all have a duty to do our damnedest to design in soakaway systems because the construction industry must take responsibility for making matters worst, we are the cause of the excess water that surcharges the drainage systems into the sewage works and rivers.
BTW its a sad fact that most LA BIs have less knowledge about drainage than they used to. Gone are the days when the BI would inspect the drainage and prove its construction by dropping a tennis ball down the system and wait for it to appear at the inspection chamber.!
What do you do for a living Clive?
@@Draqoni333 I'm an Architect
@@clivewilliams3661 oh goodness... 🤦 That explains all the comments. Every builders nightmare.... The architects... Those who do things on paper, but don't understand that what happens on paper doesn't always translate into the real world. Leave the builders alone Clive. Every comment of yours on every video is bursting with self importance. You are not improving these builders views on Architects buddy.
Aaaahahaha, your face at the end, that's rough as fuck 😂
TEMPORARY!!!!!!
@@Mr_A_Builders 😂 I think you mentioned that 😉
why do you not deburr the inside of the pipe as well as chamfering the outside. I always deburr the inside as hair especially can catch
Multi coloured pipework
How lucky were you, going through a cable with a saw. As a spark, I am appalled that the twin and earth has been exposed on the outside of the house, always should be in some form of mechanical protection, IE trucking or conduit. Very very poor, whoever did it.
could have killed you man.
Anyway, only just found your channel last week, loving your Videos, Keep it up my good man.
Well, to be honest, I noticed it a few weeks before then forgot, then BOOM! So I was a bit silly really but you're obviously totally correct regarding protection. Really appreciate you watching and commenting Allan, nice one! Hope you're well and busy, take care.
By the way, I love what youre doing to your house, I did a similar job to my sons house, didnt get any bricks nicked though, some people honestly. Im looking forward to the next episode on your house.
How? you block the window . It's not look nice
Haha! Watch the end of the video!
you need a waterprooth jb😂
Why didn’t you just go with the height of the furthest away (lowest) drain from the main and use more vertical drop ins for the other 3? You have no way to rod that run either bro! Tut tut! lol 😝
It's all temporary, Tezzo.
Murphy’s law states that any work on soil pipes is paid at time and a turd.
Excellent!!! You here all week?
It was only 220v,
Still enough to turn your sphincter inside out.
To much talking that’s why nothing getting done 😂
By your timing that’s 1 1/2 days to do one cut 😢
Haha! Soz!
Only joking 👍👍
Great videos
Cheers man, I do go on a bit though!
Omg omg 😂😂😂😂 this is the worst plumbing which I seen. Man do you see difference between colours???
Omg omg, this is the worst comment which I seen. Man do you see the end of the video???
@@Mr_A_Builders no excuse
Hahaha!!! Ok mate. I wish you all the best.
Cowboys
Here we go...go on then...I'll bite...what makes you say that?
You shouldn’t be using below ground drainage pipe and fittings above ground. Building control will fail that.
Appreciate you taking the time to comment mate, but it's all explained in the video why we done what we done and that it's all temporary.
@@Mr_A_Builders my fault should have watched it all 👍 I’ll leave the comment up for other lazy sods like me who don’t watch the whole thing. Thanks
Haha! Fair play mate! Granted, it's a long video on a not very interesting video. I reckon your comment is going to do a few people a big favour! Take care mate.