There is an option for if you want the folders in bowers to stay open or closed in fl studio 21 .You can change that on the left menu for browser. You can also move the browser where you like or keep it hidden .
Great video! I especially like the bit about FL's chaotic workflow...it's totally true ; ) I have used all 3, everytime I use FL I learn something new, Ableton is much easier to understand! I learnt how to make tunes in Ableton without watching any TH-cam videos or help from others...FL Studio is a bit more illogical and it is very confusing at the start when you have patterns and there are tracks, channels and mixer inserts...but when you actually understand it, I find it the most fun to use, and it's great to have the regular free updates with extra sounds and instruments. It's best to avoid the fruity edition of FL as it only lets you use patterns and not samples...and patterns can be a bit annoying sometimes ; ) I don't really agree with people who think that FL is for beginners, it's probably the most confusing and is more complex than Ableton and possibly also Logic. I would recommend Ableton for most people...but if you have mastered FL, there is no going back to Ableton ; )
I actually started off in FL! first time i opened ableton (before i had ever worked in fl studio or any other software) it looked super confusing so i just closed it right back😂. the second time i tried using ableton i already had maybe a year and a half of fl studio experience and also premiere pro experience, which believe it or not is more similar to ableton than fl is to ableton in some aspects, so it was much easier to get the hang of! nowadays i use all 3 but my main DAW still remains FL
For me the pattern system in FL is confusing, when you are copying and pasting...I used to have Ableton and found it easier to learn and make a tune...FL has confused me more ; )@@boomboombaby9140
yeah someone already commented and actually helped me disable it (as i said in the video i hadn’t found the option so i relied on comments and thankfully someone helpful came along)
Long time Logic Pro user, I'm so much happy and satisfied with it but just for the test I recently tried Live but immediately bounced back to Logic due to, I had a demo project going on in Abelton with around 25 or + tracks and Every time I exported, I had drop outs of audio couple of time. I Left !
Ableton has one of THE WORST computing resource implementations. Go on any forum and you'll immediately find several Ableton users crying over the terrible CPU. It's a complete joke considering Ableton Suite costs a whopping $750. The cost of just the Ableton update is equal to the cost of Logic Pro itself, completely ridiculous!
for automation now with 2024 there is a hotkey of last tweaked or next last tweaked. also you could click the knob icon on the toolbar, no menu dive for creating the automation clip.
waitt is there actually a hotkey? i knew about the knob but tbh it didn't make much difference to going into the menu, but if there actually is a keyboard shortcut that would be sick
@@majkoo Just go to the main Menu, 'Mix' and select 'Autoselect Automation Parameter in Read Mode', that's pretty much it. By the way this feature has existed since 2017, not 2024 like the other person said. So many poorly informed Logic users everywhere
I am currently a reaper+ableton user, and before I've used FL studio and Bitwig, Of course there are pro and cons for each of them, but in my opinion I like Ableton's workflow better , it just fits for my workflow, and for performance issues Reaper is much better option- even its drive storage is so small. The work put in this video is great, I even subscribed, Thanks
Loved your video, good, useful and great MEMES. I had to subscribe. I use FL Studio and you can actually link an audio clip or instrument to a track, so its colored differently and automaticly connected to a mixer track. It’s fast and it makes your projects look better.
ayy thanks! i’ve actually got a video that’s been in the works for a few months coming up very soon so stay tuned for that! btw i mainly use fl out of all these and my playlists are probably on the messier side, but i don’t mind it at all😂 embrace the mess! that function kinda defeats the whole fl workflow imho
Again.. as a Logic Pro Pro user.. Logic has a lot of similarities when it comes to the piano roll such as FL Studio .. and certain things are actually easier like strumming.. You dont need to press command click to add notes.. you can select the pencil tool and write notes exactly the same as in FL.. the one thing I do like about FL is the key color coding system .. and it actually is overall easier to use than Logics.. BUT its not no where near difficult as you're making it hahahahahah Ableton on the other hand is far more difficult than all 3 daws combined
idk if you’ve noticed but i hate having to select a tool just to do literally any given thing. if i’m in the piano roll just make me automatically be able to place notes by clicking without having to select a separate tool😂. that’s why i love the fl piano roll so much and also why i didn’t mention the pencil tool in ableton either
@@majkoo You don't have to switch tools in Logic's Piano Roll. With the default Pointer tool I simply Tap with Three Fingers to draw a note, I don't have to switch to the Pencil to draw a note. To delete the note, I tap on the note with Three Fingers again. No need to switch to the Eraser.
I got a question, have you started Logic in Rosetta mode?? 🤔 Because that increases Performance by MANY times! 😅 I watched a video were someone tested it out. I don’t remember exactly what plugin he used, but without rosetta it was i don’t know something between 6-12 tracks, where with rosetta he could open 110-120 lag free!!! That’s around 10 times as much! 💀🤣 So it makes a HUGE difference! 😁
heyy, in this video I was actually using a 15" i9 Mac, so no rosetta was available yet (it's not apple silicon) I have switched to apple silicon recently but I can't seem to run FL without rosetta, since so many of my plugins aren't native that running fl natively makes it slower than just running it through rosetta. Haven't tried logic yet tho.
Hey man! Great video! I have so much trouble trying to decide what daw to use. Can I get ur personal opinion on what would be best for me? I’m trying to make feel good pop music as well as Lofi beats and just pop in general. What would u recommend for me
ayy thanks! i think that ableton or logic would make the most sense since those are the most popular options amongst producers of those particular genres (there’s probably a reason for it idk i make electronic music lol)
depends on how used you are to the software, in the end i decided to give the edge to fl studio because you can link hot keys to certain plugins and that makes for a crazy fast workflow
Hlo bro, i am from indea i am beginner , i work on fl studio crack version . I take beat from youtube and mix with my vocal but when i export the song my vocal are louder then my beat . So plz tell me this problm is in daw or in my mixing. Because i want clean beat and clean voal . I also want to make own clean beat so plz help me Thanks from india If u want which type i want plz lesson ap dhillon any song
hey! for lessons you can check my website which is in the description and from there you can contact me. as for the export problem, your vocals are probably just louder than the beat in the DAW, so you should put them in a mixer track and bring their voulme down. It's always good practice to put all of your sounds into channels so that they don't sit on the master channel as that could affect how they sound based on mixer routing and effects. Hope this was useful!
Using cracked software is so ghetto, cracked software never works properly and you will see issues with it sooner or later. Just do things the honest way and ACTUALLY BUY your software. FL Studio does FREE updates for life so the money you spend is totally worth it
i think that xln audio has a drum plugin, but i'm not sure if you're able to make it play on its own or you have to do everything with midi inputs. For drum grooves i've always made my own if i wanted some specific sounds and placement in time and the stereo space, or used loops if i could do with something more generic, so the drummer track hasn't been a feature that i've used besides testing
This is the best attempt of being objective. I think in FL Studio you have to work out some system so it doesn't feel like cluttered mess. Sometimes no matter how you resize your windows they get in the way and you keep opening and closing windows. But the piano roll for example is good. After using FL piano roll going to another one is frustrating. To put paterns everywhere may look like freedom but in many ways it would be nice if we had the option to have set tracks. At least they put volume faders on the paterns for which I was complaining forever. I don't know if there is perfect DAW out there unless someone took the best of each one and made a new one.
that's true, every DAW definitely has its downsides but also each one has their specific perks. in the end it comes down to personal preference (as I said in the video)
I remember when my producer friends were telling me to switch to Live since they say it's 'better' than FL. Then I tried it and I was maxing out my cpu way quicker than I usually would on FL.
yeah I haven’t encountered many CPU issues tbh, but I’d assume that it’s because live maxes out at 2048 buffer size as opposed to FL, which can have a buffer of 4096, offering more processing power at the cost of higher latency
Nope LIve Performs better since its more optimized than fL. I havent got any crash using heavy waves plugin with ableton but when i work in fl i always keep pressing ctrl+s since it crashes often
no sure if someone pointed this out but you can actually switch to draw mode in ableton which lets you place notes like in fl studio, im real noob so idk about the other daw
In fl studio just 125 .chanal ..and jist 10 effect in one chanel ...so What about logic and ableton live .....howmeny chanels and the number of effect in ine chanel pllz ??????
I’m used to FL & Garageband for beats & recording. I need more advanced vocal settings & pitch control would Logic or Ableton work better? Also how are those compared to Pro Tools?
i'd say for vocal mixing and recording in general pro tools is the industry standard, and when something is the industry standard it's that for a reason. personally i've never used pro tools but i'd say that it's the most adequate for your personal requirements
for sounds, download sample packs from sites like cymatics (they have plenty) or get a sounds subscription on splice for virtually infinite sounds (although that's a paid option). I don't know many people at all who use stock sounds, due to them being generic and not fitted for specific genres of music. For instruments, use VSTs like Vital, u-he's free plugin and some more free option or look into paid stuff. Once again there isn't that many people using stock plugins, although that's mostly for the instruments (and there's still a significant portion of people who use at least some kind of stock plugin, although it's pretty rare to not use any external vsts.) For effects it's a whole different story: third party plugins definitely improved my workflow and sound, but you could do almost everything with stock options.
@@majkoo ofc bro, ill definetly sub to help you out bro, i find a lot of ur videos very helpful considering that im wanting to buy FL, but im a broke so i want to know if im just wasting my money on it or not 😂
Honestly, one of these days I wanna do a cursed arrangement challenge and try to arrange a full song in FL in one Track. I mean, people already do their songwriting phase in one pattern then separate the patterns by channel, so now the next step is to arrange in one track lol Edit: Also, the reason why the right-click to make automation clips thing can't work in third-party plugins is because the third-party will already have a function assigned to the right-click that is different from the drop-down menu Image-Line has across their software.
might actually “borrow” the cursed arrangement idea for a video🌝🗿 that’s interesting about third party plugins and right click! in my experience there’s no function assigned to right click, but i understand that forcing image line’s menu onto every plugin might break stuff
@@majkoo I can give you the example that across all Kilohearts plugins right-clicking a knob will bring up a text box that allows you to type in an exact value.
Great video, been deciding between FL & Logic. I got the free trail for Logic to see if I do well with it as I like the simplicity in pricing and the clean UI design. l hope you're channel get's big, I would add timestamps though.
In my eyes, FL is barely considered a DAW, it's a glorified drum loop program. Its the Apple product of DAWs as in its used by everyone, and locks anyone who's gotten used to the pattern based workflow from using literally any DAW. It does Apple better than Garage Band, a literal Apple App
@@Prod.Johnnyb i was writing this whole paragraph of a reply but then i got booted out of notification comments so i'll just say this FL ok but bad UI also fuck holding alt just snap correctly
@@joegaming8101 I agree, FL Studio has one of the worst UIs I've ever set eyes on, who on earth can work in that cluttered mess of a UI? Ableton and Cubase are close seconds in terms of how terrible their UI is
First of all, great video. I used Logic and FL Studio, Reaper , Cubase and so on... so I think the best Midi editor is the logic one. You can do everything you want with the mouse. With FL Studio I have to change the tool for every little step. This freaks me out every time (same for cubase and reaper). As I like the ultimate flexibility with FL Studio it drives me crazy how it handles audio recording. Putting it into a sampler and then it is just one more channel please come on, why you FL Studio guys do not have managed it till today(Majkoo wich you did not talk about it). Yeah I know there is track mode but it does not apply to audio just midi. With logic I was able to create the fastest workflow. Every other DAW I just.. doooohhh ... why , why is that... regarding rendering times.. who cares about that? Totally not of interest. The most important thing is if you can do a recording without latency so you do not have to edit the samples your own or Midi. Logic is far superior over this. Cubase took ages to manage it, FL Studio magically can do it by it self after some waiting time(do some recording and it magically happens, at least with the latest version I did 3 three songs with it), and logic has a knob for it. For Reaper you have to use 2 extensions that are not maintained. wow. While FL Studio has great Stock plugins , really I love them, as a DAW it is not suitable for me, as it is to complicated to handle the project. you get lost so fast. And that is the advantage of logic, you can do the same stuff and get leaded without having brain cramps all over. (Using the same automation for another track or whatever really does not count in a real recording, why you should copy it an use it for another something) And putting the whole song into one track, meh maybe with a brain chip. And for FL Studio , always remove the stock limiter and use a decent one. For Ableton it was always like this for me: it uses a horizontal workflow but I was used to a vertical one and never got this. So just preference. If it is about the money logic ist the best. Tons of features, samples and you were complaining about vintage or whatever you named it plugins. It is all there. Just look in the deeps of the plugin menus. FL Studio is second. All other DAW manufactures , please rethink. There is one thing about logic and samples , I use the Finder approach, but only because I did not figure out how get my samples into the library. :-( . I would love to use the great FL Studio plugins into logic but the FL Studio as VST does not work for me. To laggy to complicated. So I sample it if I need to. And at the end of the day. Try out what works best for YOU! Logic is my first thing to use. And FL Studio guys. Please , please make audio recordings and editing like in logic. I just do not get why I need a pattern based recording of a vocal of guitar or whatever instrument. Whit all the hassle.. I know great music was made buy people with FL Studio but they must have great patience and be able to endure pain and suffering ;-) and a brain chip :-D
hahah this has to be the longest comment I've got on a video! I'd say that FL has undoubtedly the best MIDI editor IMO, just because you can create and delete notes just with ur mouse without having to activate any pencil tool or that kinda deal (it just happens automatically so long as you had the pencil or paint brush selected last). For automation copying, idk about actual acoustic recording but when it comes to synthesis and layers you oftentimes want to have the same exact curve on multiple parameters (for example, I want the distortion AND bitcrush to go up to 69.696969% at the exact same time with the exact same curve). Might seem like an obscure example but it's actually quite common while sound designing, at least in my experience. I don't get what you mean by recording in patterns tho? While I basically never record anything because I don't work with vocalists (yet) the few times i've had to record anything the clips just appeared in the playlist after being recorded.
that's true but as I said in the video no one really uses it and it could use massive improvements (like having the option to set a specific folder as default for samples and have it open that folder each time you select the browser)
@@majkoo Logic's All Files Browser has a Bookmarks feature. Just add a Bookmark to your favorite folders. If you want it to open that folder every time you open up the Browser just Lock the screen set, then save the project as a Template. On my computer for example I open up the All Files Browser and it always opens up to the exact folder I've set it to
I used logic in school a few years ago. Decided to get back into music a little and tried fl out as logic isnt on windows :( I'm surprised how quickly I picked up fl to logic. Maybe its because its my second daw but I really like it. Speaks to me very well. Its nice to see everything at once. I also like making my project very colourfull and compact 🤣
i had used fl studio mobile for a few years then finally was able to switch to fl. The workflow was so different that i couldnt get used to it even after 3 months of trying to use it. I just dont like the channel rack and would instead like to have separate channels in the playlist itself for each instrument/vst like in fl studio mobile and Ableton. later in the video now. Fl studio's mixer absolutely sucks too compared to Fl studio mobile. just wish flm had external plugins support but its a phone what can you expect BUT it allows you to add infinitely many plugins which are pretty powerful. cant believe fl is lacking this bad here. I really wanna switch to Ableton but the piano roll according to the internet does feel a bit clunky at first especially compared to FL
uhh I think it's really a matter of habits, after working in both FL (no track/instrument linking unless you specifically want to do so in newer versions) and the other 2, I can say I don't really see many benefits other than project organisation in the track/instrument link. On the other hand, that system makes for absolutely huge 140+ track projects in my experience, where it's really easy to miss a detail or actually spend more time searching in the playlist than what you would in FL's "unorganised" playlist
@majkoo I don't remember ever putting this comment and I'm literally an fl user so idk how this got here. Just reply to this comment again so I can confirm you read it and I'll delete it
Logic is great, but it's a CPU nightmare. That's why I'm sticking to FL for the meantime, I also like the playfulness of FL. Logic though is my first love. And Ableton looks like a concrete building. Fuck that.
i haven't experienced super heavy load on the CPU in logic, but the fact that the buffer size only goes up to 1024 means that i probably would if i were to actually try and produce bigger projects inside of it
If you're having CPU issues it's because 1. your internal SSD is too full 2. you used Migration Transfer to install Logic + plugins instead of installing everything from scratch.
appreciate the comment!💙 I've been busy with IRL stuff but hopefully I can come back soon (i've bought a pro camera and a new mac with apple silicon so there should be an even bigger bump in quality hahah)
@7:36 you can actually save your location in the apple browser so you dont have to do that! And the browser is good.. Its not the best.. definitely the weakest out the 3 daws I can tell you that..
not a bad video overall, but you seem pretty uninformed when it comes to Logic tbh. PLUGINS: logic comes with so much epic stuff; Compressors (amazing workflow switching between different versions (digital, opto, fet, vca...) and their vintage EQ collection (incl. a Neve 1073 strip and a Pulteq) - these are all pro grade; Alchemy =🐐, but you get some other good instruments & a huge library of Apple Loops (hotkey O). Tbh, especially adjusted for price, Logic should've won that category, because only Live Suite can compare and that's almost 3x the price. MIXING: No professional engineer will mix on Live or FL, but plenty do on Logic. You didn't even show Logic's epic mixer view, which will give you a nice overview of every channel's FX chain, a miniature view of the channel EQ and a meter for compression. Also there is a Plugin Manager, where you can fav as many go-to VSTs as you want, and then you can always access those from the top layer of the Plugin menu.
didn’t know that about the favourites in the plugin manager, gonna have to try that out myself! as for the mixer I’m aware of the large mixer view but i didn’t show it because (this may sound stupid) i always mix on the go as a lot of other producers too, so i don’t really take advantage of it. definitely useful for mixing enigneers tho! the 70gb sample library is nice but to be completely honest i deleted it after finishing my logic install like 2 years ago because it’s just too much space on my ssd taken up by “general purpose” loops (i personally don’t even use loops except for percussions and ambiance). i’ll explore logic’s other plugins too! they seem great :) this was mostly bias from my personal workflow and therefore perspective, but definitely a bit of misinformation as well! thanks for commenting!
Top tier vid ahahah - Logic’s automation is actually much better than you makes it out to be, you can just click command+c command+v to copy and paste automation.
thanks man! I tried to do cmd c and cmd v as an obvious choice, but for some reason it resulted in pasting the automation to a different parameter than the one i had selected 🗿🗿
@@majkoo yeah that happens to me too, not sure why. i’ve been contemplating switching from logic to ableton for a while but the price difference + the change in workflow is too much ahah
definitely a difficult change to make! i've tried switching to both ableton and logic and i've found myself working best in ableton. The main issue i have with logic (and all apple software lol) is that the most simple of things take an additional step that's there for no reason (an example would be downloading videos on iOS: i have to go into safari downloads, find the video and then go into the share menu and tap save to photos for it to save into the gallery). Just Apple being Apple i guess
logic is better if i have a mac , and im gonna puchase an imac in april, ive used logic in old macbook it was really great and i do have a logic license :D
It will be great, Studio One is a daw that does everithing, and better than most other daws. Check ARA, Audio editing, drag and drop, dolby atmos, piano roll ... etc, the list ia huge. And everything is so well integrated and fits any kind of workflow. I already wrote this comment earlier but didn t posted, donno why 😂.
I use all three of these. I’d have to say the Logic Mixer is better than you described. Having to search for plugins is a pain in the ass, but you can setup favourite folder. The stock plugins and instruments in Logic are probably the best out of the three. I’ve tried doing a mix with the same tracks, but using the equivalent stock plugins in each and Logic sounded the best, FL was second and Ableton was third. I love Glue Compressor, Saturator, and Drum Buss, but Logics Multiple stock vintage compressors, saturator/distortions, and Phat Effects actually sound better. For songwriting, FL or Ableton for me. I love Ableton’s convenience and easy workflow. Mixing, Logic is by far better, especially with how their mixer looks and works.
logic doesn't have free lifetime updates. its has free incremental updates but you will gave to pay if there release say logic 11. All n all loved the video tho.
well, they actually dropped the x from the name. now it's just Logic Pro and you get free updates as far as your device is up to date (meaning you're gonna have to buy a new mac at some point).
Bro you’re automation in logic is so slow and that’s actually your fault. I have never seen anyone do automation the way you do but that’s why it’s so slow. Just click your track and then click “Latch” than record literally anything. Than simply click back to “read”.
well I wasn’t really talking about recording automation. while recording automations is available, I (and countless other producers) prefer to write their automations by adding points and manipulating them as they want. Logic is the slowest of all under this particular aspect (as far as i’m concerned at least)
@@majkoo Like I said, you need to go to the menu, 'Mix' and then select 'Autoselect Automation Parameter in Read Mode'. After that you can just click on any knob or fader or button and that parameter will pop up in the Automation view
as far as i'm aware, there were third party customising options, but image-line deemed them as "illegal" and shut them down a few years ago. so yes but also no
thanks for the comment! should've included for edm producers in the title maybe because that's all that you're ever going to see 99% of the cases with electronic music and most beats too haha
can tell this guy uses ableton lol (edit: huh guess im wrong lol, this seemed biased towards ableton and against logic. ) imo: 1. (A) ableton has the best workflow for production with a super low friction interface and good stock plugins, but is expensive. frictionless workflow with the perfect balance of power and simplicity imo, best option for most people if you can afford it and like the simple UI. logic has more detailed mixing and far better audio control, but this is unnecessary in most cases and the ability to get super granular with your editing can break your flow, focusing on getting a perfect cut vs. finishing your mix. 2. (B+) logic's tougher to get used to, and still has it's workflow limitations, but is much more powerful than the other two, especially for mixing and audio. it's like pro tools without having to jump out the window whenever you lose your project. 3. (B-) fl studio's drum machine gives it the workflow for beatmakers, but is terrible for mixing and audio. logic for beginners or beatmakers who don't use audio or mix. fl (beatmaking) and ableton (audio) are better for beginners and workflow. with some practice, logic is by far the best for mixing and audio and has pretty much the same/better workflow as fl. could be wrong, but i'm pretty sure martin garrix switched from fl to logic for the mixing and audio control. most other edm artists use ableton (illenium, chainsmokers, marshmello, etc)
@@_nik I agree with a lot of things said in this comment, but FL’s workflow is NOT similar to logic in any way. I’ve actually used logic a few times since this video for mixing, and it definitely has the best mixer (A+) if i was to rate it again. That being said, its workflow is definitely the worst out of the 3 and is very different from fl’s workflow (ableton and logic work in similar ways, while fl is just…fl, but a lot faster than logic)
never tried reaper. one thing that i've noticed on FL studio (on mac at least) is that it seems to only use 1 or 2 out of the 8 cpu cores available. haven't found any solutions tho
apple would never do that😂. but as stated at the beginning logic is mac only so if you’re a diehard windows user you’re not even going to consider it. however if it’s really appealing some people might consider switching over. proprietary software is definitely a part of apple’s business model
bro.. to be honest, i love the ability to have separate automation tracks, its great! its awesome! but the track assignment, the whole mixer and chaining,thats way to complicated for essentially an extra steps for something not that many ,even advanced users use! while ableton just do it, and for logic its..idk i dont like apple and by far..my favorite is fl studio mobile, shit is the best of ableton and fl studio desktop, only bad thing is that it doesn't take plugins
Macs are beautiful, but only Win is good for work. I don't use MAc garbage. And I don't understand what Mac fans see in that trash. When working (Ableton) with Serum I have no lag for 10+ tracks. And I've never had a problem.
Windows has inferior audio drivers. There's a reason why Macs are widely used in the industry, from movie studios to recording studios and everywhere in between. When was the last time you watched a live concert and you didn't see a laptop with a glowing Apple on it.
@@majkoo maybe because I used it for 11years but I save most preset used I make and workflow like water 🌊 I can link everything to one mixer track if I wanted I don't know just which daw suits you I guess I use logic and protocols
Yes, it's the best, Ableton is the best in overcharging its user base. With the cost of Ableton Suite you can buy 2 copies of Logic Pro and several third party plugins. Not just that, even the smaller Ableton updates costs THE SAME AS LOGIC ITSELF. Completely ridiculous
I appreciate the huge amount of work you put into making this video. Cheers.
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There is an option for if you want the folders in bowers to stay open or closed in fl studio 21 .You can change that on the left menu for browser. You can also move the browser where you like or keep it hidden .
yeahh someone else has said that too and helped me resolve it, you guys are the best haha🫶🏻
Great video! I especially like the bit about FL's chaotic workflow...it's totally true ; ) I have used all 3, everytime I use FL I learn something new, Ableton is much easier to understand! I learnt how to make tunes in Ableton without watching any TH-cam videos or help from others...FL Studio is a bit more illogical and it is very confusing at the start when you have patterns and there are tracks, channels and mixer inserts...but when you actually understand it, I find it the most fun to use, and it's great to have the regular free updates with extra sounds and instruments. It's best to avoid the fruity edition of FL as it only lets you use patterns and not samples...and patterns can be a bit annoying sometimes ; ) I don't really agree with people who think that FL is for beginners, it's probably the most confusing and is more complex than Ableton and possibly also Logic. I would recommend Ableton for most people...but if you have mastered FL, there is no going back to Ableton ; )
I actually started off in FL! first time i opened ableton (before i had ever worked in fl studio or any other software) it looked super confusing so i just closed it right back😂. the second time i tried using ableton i already had maybe a year and a half of fl studio experience and also premiere pro experience, which believe it or not is more similar to ableton than fl is to ableton in some aspects, so it was much easier to get the hang of! nowadays i use all 3 but my main DAW still remains FL
Ableton is more confusing than fl . On fl if you learn how to use 1 track and you can make a beat and it’s simple .
For me the pattern system in FL is confusing, when you are copying and pasting...I used to have Ableton and found it easier to learn and make a tune...FL has confused me more ; )@@boomboombaby9140
Im using Logic. I’ve been making beats on GarageBand for a year and it was a seamless transition for me.
definitely the right choice to make if you found yourself comfortable with GarageBand!
6:20 There's an option to toggle this. You can read the manual or search the internet before complaining about it 😊😊😊
yeah someone already commented and actually helped me disable it (as i said in the video i hadn’t found the option so i relied on comments and thankfully someone helpful came along)
Every daw is good in his own perspective if we know to use his every key 😌
wym haha
The pricing is a vital decider for what you called "the best"
@@renofumi28 it's taken into account in the final grading, even though i didn't show the calculations
Long time Logic Pro user, I'm so much happy and satisfied with it but just for the test I recently tried Live but immediately bounced back to Logic due to, I had a demo project going on in Abelton with around 25 or + tracks and Every time I exported, I had drop outs of audio couple of time. I Left !
that’s super weird! perhaps it’s a trial version limitation? idk never happened to me
Ableton has one of THE WORST computing resource implementations. Go on any forum and you'll immediately find several Ableton users crying over the terrible CPU. It's a complete joke considering Ableton Suite costs a whopping $750. The cost of just the Ableton update is equal to the cost of Logic Pro itself, completely ridiculous!
I work with the three daws and in my opinion, for me, logic is the best!
1-logic
2-fl studio
3-abelton
yeah as i said at the beginning of the video the rankings are mostly personal preference
This is awesome. Very well done Majkoo
thanks 😊
for automation now with 2024 there is a hotkey of last tweaked or next last tweaked. also you could click the knob icon on the toolbar, no menu dive for creating the automation clip.
waitt is there actually a hotkey? i knew about the knob but tbh it didn't make much difference to going into the menu, but if there actually is a keyboard shortcut that would be sick
@@majkoo Just go to the main Menu, 'Mix' and select 'Autoselect Automation Parameter in Read Mode', that's pretty much it. By the way this feature has existed since 2017, not 2024 like the other person said. So many poorly informed Logic users everywhere
I am currently a reaper+ableton user, and before I've used FL studio and Bitwig, Of course there are pro and cons for each of them, but in my opinion I like Ableton's workflow better , it just fits for my workflow, and for performance issues Reaper is much better option- even its drive storage is so small.
The work put in this video is great, I even subscribed, Thanks
i've never tried reaper. Maybe that's for a future video!
Crazy solid video yo, deserves more views fr.
happy you enjoyed! got more in the works
Loved your video, good, useful and great MEMES. I had to subscribe. I use FL Studio and you can actually link an audio clip or instrument to a track, so its colored differently and automaticly connected to a mixer track. It’s fast and it makes your projects look better.
ayy thanks! i’ve actually got a video that’s been in the works for a few months coming up very soon so stay tuned for that! btw i mainly use fl out of all these and my playlists are probably on the messier side, but i don’t mind it at all😂 embrace the mess! that function kinda defeats the whole fl workflow imho
Again.. as a Logic Pro Pro user.. Logic has a lot of similarities when it comes to the piano roll such as FL Studio .. and certain things are actually easier like strumming.. You dont need to press command click to add notes.. you can select the pencil tool and write notes exactly the same as in FL.. the one thing I do like about FL is the key color coding system .. and it actually is overall easier to use than Logics.. BUT its not no where near difficult as you're making it hahahahahah Ableton on the other hand is far more difficult than all 3 daws combined
idk if you’ve noticed but i hate having to select a tool just to do literally any given thing. if i’m in the piano roll just make me automatically be able to place notes by clicking without having to select a separate tool😂. that’s why i love the fl piano roll so much and also why i didn’t mention the pencil tool in ableton either
@@majkoo I absolutely agree 1000% FL piano is superior I was just stating you can do the same in Logic
Ableton is so much easier and intuitive than both of those daws.
@@majkoo You don't have to switch tools in Logic's Piano Roll. With the default Pointer tool I simply Tap with Three Fingers to draw a note, I don't have to switch to the Pencil to draw a note. To delete the note, I tap on the note with Three Fingers again. No need to switch to the Eraser.
I got a question, have you started Logic in Rosetta mode?? 🤔 Because that increases Performance by MANY times! 😅
I watched a video were someone tested it out. I don’t remember exactly what plugin he used, but without rosetta it was i don’t know something between 6-12 tracks, where with rosetta he could open 110-120 lag free!!! That’s around 10 times as much! 💀🤣 So it makes a HUGE difference! 😁
heyy, in this video I was actually using a 15" i9 Mac, so no rosetta was available yet (it's not apple silicon) I have switched to apple silicon recently but I can't seem to run FL without rosetta, since so many of my plugins aren't native that running fl natively makes it slower than just running it through rosetta. Haven't tried logic yet tho.
Hey man! Great video! I have so much trouble trying to decide what daw to use. Can I get ur personal opinion on what would be best for me? I’m trying to make feel good pop music as well as Lofi beats and just pop in general. What would u recommend for me
ayy thanks! i think that ableton or logic would make the most sense since those are the most popular options amongst producers of those particular genres (there’s probably a reason for it idk i make electronic music lol)
i feel like something often overlooked is stocck plugins and instruments, and how they may benefit that genre
giving workflow to FL over Ableton is crazzzyyy!!!
depends on how used you are to the software, in the end i decided to give the edge to fl studio because you can link hot keys to certain plugins and that makes for a crazy fast workflow
amazing video!! love it
thankss
Great video! Subbed!
glad you liked it!
Really nice video thanks dude
i'm happy to hear that you've found the video useful! more to come soon :)
Hlo bro, i am from indea i am beginner , i work on fl studio crack version . I take beat from youtube and mix with my vocal but when i export the song my vocal are louder then my beat . So plz tell me this problm is in daw or in my mixing. Because i want clean beat and clean voal . I also want to make own clean beat so plz help me
Thanks from india
If u want which type i want plz lesson ap dhillon any song
hey! for lessons you can check my website which is in the description and from there you can contact me. as for the export problem, your vocals are probably just louder than the beat in the DAW, so you should put them in a mixer track and bring their voulme down. It's always good practice to put all of your sounds into channels so that they don't sit on the master channel as that could affect how they sound based on mixer routing and effects. Hope this was useful!
@@majkoo i try this but not working properly
Using cracked software is so ghetto, cracked software never works properly and you will see issues with it sooner or later. Just do things the honest way and ACTUALLY BUY your software. FL Studio does FREE updates for life so the money you spend is totally worth it
Hi. Logic has a Drummer feature that makes really easy to add a rhythm track. What are the third-party alternatives for Ableton?
i think that xln audio has a drum plugin, but i'm not sure if you're able to make it play on its own or you have to do everything with midi inputs. For drum grooves i've always made my own if i wanted some specific sounds and placement in time and the stereo space, or used loops if i could do with something more generic, so the drummer track hasn't been a feature that i've used besides testing
This is the best attempt of being objective. I think in FL Studio you have to work out some system so it doesn't feel like cluttered mess. Sometimes no matter how you resize your windows they get in the way and you keep opening and closing windows. But the piano roll for example is good. After using FL piano roll going to another one is frustrating. To put paterns everywhere may look like freedom but in many ways it would be nice if we had the option to have set tracks. At least they put volume faders on the paterns for which I was complaining forever. I don't know if there is perfect DAW out there unless someone took the best of each one and made a new one.
that's true, every DAW definitely has its downsides but also each one has their specific perks. in the end it comes down to personal preference (as I said in the video)
underrated acc. nice review
💙 💙
I remember when my producer friends were telling me to switch to Live since they say it's 'better' than FL. Then I tried it and I was maxing out my cpu way quicker than I usually would on FL.
yeah I haven’t encountered many CPU issues tbh, but I’d assume that it’s because live maxes out at 2048 buffer size as opposed to FL, which can have a buffer of 4096, offering more processing power at the cost of higher latency
Nope LIve Performs better since its more optimized than fL. I havent got any crash using heavy waves plugin with ableton but when i work in fl i always keep pressing ctrl+s since it crashes often
Great vid big improvement in quality
thanks 🙏 😊
no sure if someone pointed this out but you can actually switch to draw mode in ableton which lets you place notes like in fl studio, im real noob so idk about the other daw
thanks for leaving a comment! although i didn’t mention it, i know about the draw mode. i just find fl’s piano roll to be better
In fl studio just 125 .chanal ..and jist 10 effect in one chanel ...so
What about logic and ableton live .....howmeny chanels and the number of effect in ine chanel pllz ??????
logic and ableton both have unlimited channels and effects per channel
@@majkoo but in logic its just 15 or 16 effect per chanel bro ...its not unlimated ....
I’m used to FL & Garageband for beats & recording. I need more advanced vocal settings & pitch control would Logic or Ableton work better? Also how are those compared to Pro Tools?
i'd say for vocal mixing and recording in general pro tools is the industry standard, and when something is the industry standard it's that for a reason. personally i've never used pro tools but i'd say that it's the most adequate for your personal requirements
recording, mixing, mastering is best done in pro tools
i wiah reaper had at least some stock sounds and samples...what am i gonna do without instruments?
for sounds, download sample packs from sites like cymatics (they have plenty) or get a sounds subscription on splice for virtually infinite sounds (although that's a paid option). I don't know many people at all who use stock sounds, due to them being generic and not fitted for specific genres of music. For instruments, use VSTs like Vital, u-he's free plugin and some more free option or look into paid stuff. Once again there isn't that many people using stock plugins, although that's mostly for the instruments (and there's still a significant portion of people who use at least some kind of stock plugin, although it's pretty rare to not use any external vsts.) For effects it's a whole different story: third party plugins definitely improved my workflow and sound, but you could do almost everything with stock options.
Thanks, that was super funny and informative 😊👍
happy you enjoyed! got more fun content coming up👀
you missed the greatest FL Studio plug-in of all time FLEX
only 500 subs? ur goated tho
@@GlizzyGladiatorOfficialty💙💙 and yehh my upload schedule do be shit hahah but hopefully i can get back to making some videos soon!
@@majkoo ofc bro, ill definetly sub to help you out bro, i find a lot of ur videos very helpful considering that im wanting to buy FL, but im a broke so i want to know if im just wasting my money on it or not 😂
Honestly, one of these days I wanna do a cursed arrangement challenge and try to arrange a full song in FL in one Track. I mean, people already do their songwriting phase in one pattern then separate the patterns by channel, so now the next step is to arrange in one track lol
Edit: Also, the reason why the right-click to make automation clips thing can't work in third-party plugins is because the third-party will already have a function assigned to the right-click that is different from the drop-down menu Image-Line has across their software.
might actually “borrow” the cursed arrangement idea for a video🌝🗿
that’s interesting about third party plugins and right click! in my experience there’s no function assigned to right click, but i understand that forcing image line’s menu onto every plugin might break stuff
@@majkoo I can give you the example that across all Kilohearts plugins right-clicking a knob will bring up a text box that allows you to type in an exact value.
When I started with FL, I used to arrange in one track hahahaha
@@Noldy__ i've been using fl since i started with music and i still put multiple things into one pattern lol
Logic all day of my life!
Why fl studio dnt have ara 2 support do anyone knows? Any inside news? Any secret 😅 information
I have no idea tbh
The devs of those DAWs should look at this video and than they're all perfect
appreciate it hahaha🫶🏻
Great video, been deciding between FL & Logic. I got the free trail for Logic to see if I do well with it as I like the simplicity in pricing and the clean UI design. l hope you're channel get's big, I would add timestamps though.
thanks mate! I added timestamps now because i totally forgot about them 😂
In my eyes, FL is barely considered a DAW, it's a glorified drum loop program. Its the Apple product of DAWs as in its used by everyone, and locks anyone who's gotten used to the pattern based workflow from using literally any DAW. It does Apple better than Garage Band, a literal Apple App
FL is amazing and definitely considered a DAW btw
@@Prod.Johnnyb i was writing this whole paragraph of a reply but then i got booted out of notification comments so i'll just say this
FL ok but bad UI
also fuck holding alt just snap correctly
@@joegaming8101 I agree, FL Studio has one of the worst UIs I've ever set eyes on, who on earth can work in that cluttered mess of a UI? Ableton and Cubase are close seconds in terms of how terrible their UI is
That intro is 🔥🔥🔥
ty haha had a lot of fun making it
First of all, great video. I used Logic and FL Studio, Reaper , Cubase and so on... so I think the best Midi editor is the logic one. You can do everything you want with the mouse. With FL Studio I have to change the tool for every little step. This freaks me out every time (same for cubase and reaper). As I like the ultimate flexibility with FL Studio it drives me crazy how it handles audio recording. Putting it into a sampler and then it is just one more channel please come on, why you FL Studio guys do not have managed it till today(Majkoo wich you did not talk about it). Yeah I know there is track mode but it does not apply to audio just midi. With logic I was able to create the fastest workflow. Every other DAW I just.. doooohhh ... why , why is that... regarding rendering times.. who cares about that? Totally not of interest. The most important thing is if you can do a recording without latency so you do not have to edit the samples your own or Midi. Logic is far superior over this. Cubase took ages to manage it, FL Studio magically can do it by it self after some waiting time(do some recording and it magically happens, at least with the latest version I did 3 three songs with it), and logic has a knob for it. For Reaper you have to use 2 extensions that are not maintained. wow. While FL Studio has great Stock plugins , really I love them, as a DAW it is not suitable for me, as it is to complicated to handle the project. you get lost so fast. And that is the advantage of logic, you can do the same stuff and get leaded without having brain cramps all over. (Using the same automation for another track or whatever really does not count in a real recording, why you should copy it an use it for another something) And putting the whole song into one track, meh maybe with a brain chip. And for FL Studio , always remove the stock limiter and use a decent one. For Ableton it was always like this for me: it uses a horizontal workflow but I was used to a vertical one and never got this. So just preference. If it is about the money logic ist the best. Tons of features, samples and you were complaining about vintage or whatever you named it plugins. It is all there. Just look in the deeps of the plugin menus. FL Studio is second. All other DAW manufactures , please rethink. There is one thing about logic and samples , I use the Finder approach, but only because I did not figure out how get my samples into the library. :-( . I would love to use the great FL Studio plugins into logic but the FL Studio as VST does not work for me. To laggy to complicated. So I sample it if I need to. And at the end of the day. Try out what works best for YOU! Logic is my first thing to use. And FL Studio guys. Please , please make audio recordings and editing like in logic. I just do not get why I need a pattern based recording of a vocal of guitar or whatever instrument. Whit all the hassle.. I know great music was made buy people with FL Studio but they must have great patience and be able to endure pain and suffering ;-) and a brain chip :-D
hahah this has to be the longest comment I've got on a video! I'd say that FL has undoubtedly the best MIDI editor IMO, just because you can create and delete notes just with ur mouse without having to activate any pencil tool or that kinda deal (it just happens automatically so long as you had the pencil or paint brush selected last). For automation copying, idk about actual acoustic recording but when it comes to synthesis and layers you oftentimes want to have the same exact curve on multiple parameters (for example, I want the distortion AND bitcrush to go up to 69.696969% at the exact same time with the exact same curve). Might seem like an obscure example but it's actually quite common while sound designing, at least in my experience. I don't get what you mean by recording in patterns tho? While I basically never record anything because I don't work with vocalists (yet) the few times i've had to record anything the clips just appeared in the playlist after being recorded.
logic does have a browser
that's true but as I said in the video no one really uses it and it could use massive improvements (like having the option to set a specific folder as default for samples and have it open that folder each time you select the browser)
@@majkoo Logic's All Files Browser has a Bookmarks feature. Just add a Bookmark to your favorite folders. If you want it to open that folder every time you open up the Browser just Lock the screen set, then save the project as a Template. On my computer for example I open up the All Files Browser and it always opens up to the exact folder I've set it to
Ableton and Logic take the cake for me
to everyone their own! I personally us FL as main, but sometimes mess around in Ableton too
Logic and FL cause I started on GarageBand and switched to FL
I used logic in school a few years ago. Decided to get back into music a little and tried fl out as logic isnt on windows :( I'm surprised how quickly I picked up fl to logic. Maybe its because its my second daw but I really like it. Speaks to me very well. Its nice to see everything at once. I also like making my project very colourfull and compact 🤣
i had used fl studio mobile for a few years then finally was able to switch to fl. The workflow was so different that i couldnt get used to it even after 3 months of trying to use it. I just dont like the channel rack and would instead like to have separate channels in the playlist itself for each instrument/vst like in fl studio mobile and Ableton.
later in the video now. Fl studio's mixer absolutely sucks too compared to Fl studio mobile. just wish flm had external plugins support but its a phone what can you expect BUT it allows you to add infinitely many plugins which are pretty powerful. cant believe fl is lacking this bad here.
I really wanna switch to Ableton but the piano roll according to the internet does feel a bit clunky at first especially compared to FL
uhh I think it's really a matter of habits, after working in both FL (no track/instrument linking unless you specifically want to do so in newer versions) and the other 2, I can say I don't really see many benefits other than project organisation in the track/instrument link. On the other hand, that system makes for absolutely huge 140+ track projects in my experience, where it's really easy to miss a detail or actually spend more time searching in the playlist than what you would in FL's "unorganised" playlist
@majkoo I don't remember ever putting this comment and I'm literally an fl user so idk how this got here. Just reply to this comment again so I can confirm you read it and I'll delete it
I think logic is best for me since i have used garageband for years
probably a seamless transition then
Logic is great, but it's a CPU nightmare. That's why I'm sticking to FL for the meantime, I also like the playfulness of FL. Logic though is my first love.
And Ableton looks like a concrete building. Fuck that.
i haven't experienced super heavy load on the CPU in logic, but the fact that the buffer size only goes up to 1024 means that i probably would if i were to actually try and produce bigger projects inside of it
If you're having CPU issues it's because 1. your internal SSD is too full 2. you used Migration Transfer to install Logic + plugins instead of installing everything from scratch.
legend
W ABLETON
studio one comparison when?
never used studio one, i've seen RudeLies using it and he's a great producer. i might try it out in a video, don't know yet
Bro only has 600 followers, but the quality of the videos he makes is worth 60,000 followers
appreciate the comment!💙 I've been busy with IRL stuff but hopefully I can come back soon (i've bought a pro camera and a new mac with apple silicon so there should be an even bigger bump in quality hahah)
Hey,
if you are looking for a genuinely more powerful Logic Pro X,
let me introduce to you Cubase (and Studio One)
@7:36 you can actually save your location in the apple browser so you dont have to do that! And the browser is good.. Its not the best.. definitely the weakest out the 3 daws I can tell you that..
i actually didn't know that about the browser! gonna have to try it out. is it some kind of shortcut?
not a bad video overall, but you seem pretty uninformed when it comes to Logic tbh. PLUGINS: logic comes with so much epic stuff; Compressors (amazing workflow switching between different versions (digital, opto, fet, vca...) and their vintage EQ collection (incl. a Neve 1073 strip and a Pulteq) - these are all pro grade; Alchemy =🐐, but you get some other good instruments & a huge library of Apple Loops (hotkey O). Tbh, especially adjusted for price, Logic should've won that category, because only Live Suite can compare and that's almost 3x the price. MIXING: No professional engineer will mix on Live or FL, but plenty do on Logic. You didn't even show Logic's epic mixer view, which will give you a nice overview of every channel's FX chain, a miniature view of the channel EQ and a meter for compression. Also there is a Plugin Manager, where you can fav as many go-to VSTs as you want, and then you can always access those from the top layer of the Plugin menu.
didn’t know that about the favourites in the plugin manager, gonna have to try that out myself! as for the mixer I’m aware of the large mixer view but i didn’t show it because (this may sound stupid) i always mix on the go as a lot of other producers too, so i don’t really take advantage of it. definitely useful for mixing enigneers tho! the 70gb sample library is nice but to be completely honest i deleted it after finishing my logic install like 2 years ago because it’s just too much space on my ssd taken up by “general purpose” loops (i personally don’t even use loops except for percussions and ambiance). i’ll explore logic’s other plugins too! they seem great :) this was mostly bias from my personal workflow and therefore perspective, but definitely a bit of misinformation as well! thanks for commenting!
@@majkoo In the latest version of Logic you can now search for plugins just like every other DAWs
Top tier vid ahahah - Logic’s automation is actually much better than you makes it out to be, you can just click command+c command+v to copy and paste automation.
thanks man! I tried to do cmd c and cmd v as an obvious choice, but for some reason it resulted in pasting the automation to a different parameter than the one i had selected 🗿🗿
@@majkoo yeah that happens to me too, not sure why. i’ve been contemplating switching from logic to ableton for a while but the price difference + the change in workflow is too much ahah
definitely a difficult change to make! i've tried switching to both ableton and logic and i've found myself working best in ableton. The main issue i have with logic (and all apple software lol) is that the most simple of things take an additional step that's there for no reason (an example would be downloading videos on iOS: i have to go into safari downloads, find the video and then go into the share menu and tap save to photos for it to save into the gallery). Just Apple being Apple i guess
@@jjlmusicuk don't change to ableton otherwise me and howard will be like literally the only logic producers left 😭😭
as a windows user i use ableton its the best for recording :D
I was about to mention logic but then I read "as a windows user" hahah
logic is better if i have a mac , and im gonna puchase an imac in april, ive used logic in old macbook it was really great and i do have a logic license :D
Good video
Your voice is good
Fl is not a mess it give you more than one way to get it done I think u miss that part lol but good video
One single answer: Studio One !
never tried it, might make one of those videos where i try it for the first time
It will be great, Studio One is a daw that does everithing, and better than most other daws. Check ARA, Audio editing, drag and drop, dolby atmos, piano roll ... etc, the list ia huge. And everything is so well integrated and fits any kind of workflow. I already wrote this comment earlier but didn t posted, donno why 😂.
Fl Studio makes life easier, best/ easiest midi editor on the planet.
yeah, i'd say that it's the best in terms of midi workflow
REAPER is a monster
never tried it tbh
Reaper looks and feels unfinished and unpolished, even with the Reaper themes it still looks like shit
personally I really dislike the stock look of logic, that's just me though ik some people love it
yeah, I think it looks really cool tbh
I use all three of these. I’d have to say the Logic Mixer is better than you described. Having to search for plugins is a pain in the ass, but you can setup favourite folder. The stock plugins and instruments in Logic are probably the best out of the three. I’ve tried doing a mix with the same tracks, but using the equivalent stock plugins in each and Logic sounded the best, FL was second and Ableton was third. I love Glue Compressor, Saturator, and Drum Buss, but Logics Multiple stock vintage compressors, saturator/distortions, and Phat Effects actually sound better. For songwriting, FL or Ableton for me. I love Ableton’s convenience and easy workflow. Mixing, Logic is by far better, especially with how their mixer looks and works.
you're right! I also use all 3, rn i'm mixing a track in logic haha
@@majkoo by the way, I really enjoyed the vid. Keep it up 👍🏻
@@MaximusWhyman thanks! for some reason yt doesn't update me on replies so just seeing all of them now lol
In the latest version of Logic you can now search for plugins
Where is cubase
Nobody cares about Cubase
Cubase and Logic are the best!
Not him glazing the shit out of FL lol
I work mainly in FL so fair enough although I feel that I've given it enough criticism in its pain points (mixer uhhhhh)
logic doesn't have free lifetime updates. its has free incremental updates but you will gave to pay if there release say logic 11. All n all loved the video tho.
well, they actually dropped the x from the name. now it's just Logic Pro and you get free updates as far as your device is up to date (meaning you're gonna have to buy a new mac at some point).
😂great video tho
logic is garageband plus
I meann it has some pretty nice additions
They can't copy all the same style
Bro you’re automation in logic is so slow and that’s actually your fault. I have never seen anyone do automation the way you do but that’s why it’s so slow. Just click your track and then click “Latch” than record literally anything. Than simply click back to “read”.
well I wasn’t really talking about recording automation. while recording automations is available, I (and countless other producers) prefer to write their automations by adding points and manipulating them as they want. Logic is the slowest of all under this particular aspect (as far as i’m concerned at least)
@@majkoo Like I said, you need to go to the menu, 'Mix' and then select 'Autoselect Automation Parameter in Read Mode'. After that you can just click on any knob or fader or button and that parameter will pop up in the Automation view
fl studio had themes for at least 10 years
as far as i'm aware, there were third party customising options, but image-line deemed them as "illegal" and shut them down a few years ago. so yes but also no
@@majkoo woooow I stopped producing for a few years so i didn't know they did that smh.
Cool video bro but you can't call it ultimate daw showdown and not include pretty much most other daws.
thanks for the comment! should've included for edm producers in the title maybe because that's all that you're ever going to see 99% of the cases with electronic music and most beats too haha
@@majkoo should've included Bitwig, Reason and Reaper then as well.
Bro u are little bit of non-traditionary orientation, but overall the overview is nice
wdym lol
can tell this guy uses ableton lol (edit: huh guess im wrong lol, this seemed biased towards ableton and against logic. )
imo:
1. (A) ableton has the best workflow for production with a super low friction interface and good stock plugins, but is expensive. frictionless workflow with the perfect balance of power and simplicity imo, best option for most people if you can afford it and like the simple UI. logic has more detailed mixing and far better audio control, but this is unnecessary in most cases and the ability to get super granular with your editing can break your flow, focusing on getting a perfect cut vs. finishing your mix.
2. (B+) logic's tougher to get used to, and still has it's workflow limitations, but is much more powerful than the other two, especially for mixing and audio. it's like pro tools without having to jump out the window whenever you lose your project.
3. (B-) fl studio's drum machine gives it the workflow for beatmakers, but is terrible for mixing and audio. logic for beginners or beatmakers who don't use audio or mix.
fl (beatmaking) and ableton (audio) are better for beginners and workflow.
with some practice, logic is by far the best for mixing and audio and has pretty much the same/better workflow as fl.
could be wrong, but i'm pretty sure martin garrix switched from fl to logic for the mixing and audio control.
most other edm artists use ableton (illenium, chainsmokers, marshmello, etc)
@@_nik I agree with a lot of things said in this comment, but FL’s workflow is NOT similar to logic in any way. I’ve actually used logic a few times since this video for mixing, and it definitely has the best mixer (A+) if i was to rate it again. That being said, its workflow is definitely the worst out of the 3 and is very different from fl’s workflow (ableton and logic work in similar ways, while fl is just…fl, but a lot faster than logic)
All 3 has garbage resource allocation. (Reaper is far better with that if you ask for alternative)
never tried reaper. one thing that i've noticed on FL studio (on mac at least) is that it seems to only use 1 or 2 out of the 8 cpu cores available. haven't found any solutions tho
@@majkoo I produce on FL studio for 15 years now, I like the DAW but the performance is just shit on any device,but the other two as well.
Great resource allocation doesn't equal great music
@@drvoodoo3073 that’s true also DAW doesn’t matter when we talk about great music
Hold up.. this argument is for mac users only. Logic is mac only. Let logic be part of windows ios then you have a good argument.
apple would never do that😂. but as stated at the beginning logic is mac only so if you’re a diehard windows user you’re not even going to consider it. however if it’s really appealing some people might consider switching over. proprietary software is definitely a part of apple’s business model
You lile login than fl oo knoo
???
FL best by far, no contest
fl is my personal choice as well, but the other 2 are serious contenders too!
@@majkoo haha cool, i didnt watch da vid but.. FL d best thang ever!
@@majkoo keep it poppin!! haha u look n sound fun fo sho
Ya still dnt have ara 2 😢
bro.. to be honest, i love the ability to have separate automation tracks, its great! its awesome! but the track assignment, the whole mixer and chaining,thats way to complicated for essentially an extra steps for something not that many ,even advanced users use! while ableton just do it, and for logic its..idk i dont like apple
and by far..my favorite is fl studio mobile, shit is the best of ableton and fl studio desktop, only bad thing is that it doesn't take plugins
Macs are beautiful, but only Win is good for work. I don't use MAc garbage. And I don't understand what Mac fans see in that trash. When working (Ableton) with Serum I have no lag for 10+ tracks. And I've never had a problem.
I really believe that it was due to recording my screen, obs can often take upwards of 40% of the cpu
Windows has inferior audio drivers. There's a reason why Macs are widely used in the industry, from movie studios to recording studios and everywhere in between. When was the last time you watched a live concert and you didn't see a laptop with a glowing Apple on it.
FL beats all companies
well i use FL as my main DAW but i still do believe that it's mostly personal preference
Fl mixer is the cleanest and better
as an fl user myself i strongly disagree
@@majkoo maybe because I used it for 11years but I save most preset used I make and workflow like water 🌊 I can link everything to one mixer track if I wanted I don't know just which daw suits you I guess I use logic and protocols
dude great video and explained well but bro if you're looking for advice please stop with the obnoxious memes at every moment, it gets annoying fast
glad you kinda enjoyed! i'll keep the memes in mind but tbh i can't personally stand to watch long videos like that, it gets boring fast
@@majkoono i love the memes😩
TLDR; Ableton is the best.
Yes, it's the best, Ableton is the best in overcharging its user base. With the cost of Ableton Suite you can buy 2 copies of Logic Pro and several third party plugins. Not just that, even the smaller Ableton updates costs THE SAME AS LOGIC ITSELF. Completely ridiculous