Thing is… it does not matter. Even if the 5080 would be just 800 Dollars… it would still be overpriced for what you get. An 50% Cutdown 5090. So like… even if we assume the 4090 Price was fair, it would still be 50% of that… ignoring an 5080 will have to use less Components around it to support it too. It’s Even then, 800 would still be to Expensive. And no Way it will be not 1200 when it’s around an 4090 that costs 1800+ right now. I mean, what’s the Alternative…. AMD? Where we know they won’t have something that’s better than their last Gen Highend? So they will have only at max something around an RTX 4080 (bit weaker) but maybe better in RT… compared to an RTX 5080 that’s around but not weaker than an 4090. I just don’t see ppl buying AMD in this Case. Maybe compared to an RTX 5070 and AMDs Highend. Sure. An RTX 5070 for 700 vs an RX 8700 XT for 600 might favor AMD. Of Course I don’t know those Prices. I doubt AMD will go below 500 though and NVidia could easily go with 600 too. Just some Numbers that could happen.
Whatever nvidia ends up doing, remember that 1) influencers are looking to farm YOUR outrage for clicks. Your outrage costs you inner peace and makes influencers $. and 2) You don't have to buy whatever overpriced toys these companies put out, your happiness is not dependent on fps, ray tracing, vram, or any thing else they try to hook you with.
While some channels definitely try to take advantage of the outrage to farm views, it’s also important to keep in mind that not all strongly negative coverage is rage bait. The folks at HardwareUnboxed have said that they get more viewership whenever new releases are priced well because that generates more interest in people. What I’m trying to get across is don’t let yourselves be taken advantage of for views, but also don’t dismiss the well-intentioned and valid criticisms of reputable outlets as rage bait.
@@kirby21-xz4rx lol but that’s exactly what it means if it wasn’t “affordable” most people wouldn’t be able to buy it and they’d never sell the real issues is people want it to be cheaper and there is nothing wrong with that
@@akilbaptiste6942 Last generation Porsche GT3 was around $200k USD and it was sold out almost immediately. Do you think that was affordable too just by virtue of it selling out?
There will be plenty of good options on the last gen and used market. None of this is a need unless ur a creative which I'm assuming you're not otherwise you'd be eyeing a quadro or 4090/5090.
Exactly, I don't know why some people belive a product should be at the price they have in mind. Any company with a monopoly based on pure competition (being better at it) can price them as high as the market alows.
What I don't get is how people keep buying this stuff and for how long can they possibly get away with it? Surely there's a Gaussian curve where people simply won't be able to afford this stuff for gaming anymore?
I have a pc with rtx4080 and 13700k plus an Series x. I think i dont buy a pc Next time and Play only on console. I Hope Xbox dont give up the console market.
@@kunalshrivastava6398 they can profit more from rich gamers, mid and low are dead meaning pc gaming is more or less rich gamers territory now. Forget low and mid range gpus, overpriced paperweights
Doesn’t help that Nvidia has no competition in the mid/high to high end market and now with AMD essentially bowing out of high end discreet GPUs it’s essentially an Nvidia only segment of the GPU market now.
@@D4C_LoveTrain1 the cheapest rx 7800xt i found is 500€ in our country. And regarding game demanfs going throught the roof i would need to shove out 1000eur for 7900xtx. Value my ass
@@Myke-Myke-Myke Mid range from AMD is poor value? 7800XT and 7900GRE - especially when on flash sales offer fantastic value and come with 16GB of VRAM
People need to stop buying cards from either company but especially nvidia new, just buy used, ebay has excellent buyer protection and if you're in person ask to see it working first. It's not like the card vendors are good about honoring their warranties anyways
The problem with this is that if everybody only bought the old cards, they wouldn't really drop in price. We need people buying new generation cards every time so the price of last gen decreases.
Where are all the used cards gonna come from, when everyone buys new? You ever thought about that? Also 450€ for a used 3080 seems like a rip off not a deal.
They've done this a few times in the past. It gives them potential to release products in between and basically artificially create in-between tiers for something that shouldn't be.
In all seriousness, will there be any direct competition for the RTX 5090 when it comes out and if it was cheap would anyone bother with an AMD or Intel card?
@@sk8ermGsexactly. So many people are in their 'rest of the world is poor like me' bubble. But I know 40 people well enough (netherlands), which is all my friends and family who can easily afford this and none of them are making millions.
I have a 1660 and dont know if I should get the 4080 super or 5080 but if the price of the 5080 isnt reasonable with the same vram as the 4080 super then il go with the 4080 super
This is honestly what turned me from pc gaming to console gaming.. the very best pc hardware is insanely expensive and the want to upgrade of every couple years is real because lack of optimizations .. console even tho they lack same power, most of the games are well optimized and get the most of the power and I don’t know why- but 30 fps on console always feels more consistent then on PC.. same with 60 fps.. if done right on console it just feels much more consistently smooth where as PC I’m always feeling some sort of hiccups and whatnot. I honestly can’t wait to trade in my ps5 for a Pro.
30 fps is bad, and it doesn't feel good on console, it's still bad. Consoles have no hardware to run games properly. PS5 Pro for 800 euro without a disc drive is a great value. as great as Nvidia GPUs, yes.
@@IAmBetterThanIWasYesterday I meant for me.. and also the feeling of needing to because games on pc are rarely optimized and just meant to be brute forced with the best hardware
@@stanislavkimov2779 disc drive is personal preference. I got a ps5 disc but rarely if ever use it. To me, physical discs is clutter and needing to change it every time I want to switch, I prefer digital. But everyone’s different and no one opinion should be held on a pedestal
Alex when Ps5 pro announced, "well that's just the price, no one forcing you to buy it". When 5080 comes out with eye watering prices, "well i don't think that's fair" 😂
Regardless of memes, Nvidia indirectly admitted that 1199$ for 4080 was not a good idea and set 4080 Super's price tag to 999$. Based on the history, I think 5080 could be 999~1099$
Lol 4080 super for 999$?Where man? 😂 Its still 1200$.What do you think?The 5080 will be cheaper?People still buying that overpriced craps for that price..........
@@ultimategohan1551Yep, it's simular story on Newegg with quite a few 4080 Supers around it's $1,000 MSRP. As for the plain 4080's they have been slowly fazed out over the past few months and have been steadily replaced by 4080 Super's, instead. Production of the 4080 has slowed considerably and is very soon to be discontinued altogether alongside the 4090. It's being done in order to make way for the 50 series GPU's. So 4080's have been very thin on the ground for the past few months and have mostly been out of stock. However, you still can often see them listed on some retail sites, at thier old prices.
the 5080 will flop hard above $999. The specs are less than what we normally would get. lucky if we even get a 30% uplift. who is going to buy this ? not enough of an upgrade from the 4080, people that didnt buy the 4080 because of the absurd price increase will steer clear of this again. Will nvidia really be stupid enough to price it that high when the 4080 failed at that price. Seems very unlikely
@@PCgamingbenchmarktimeI get your point, but the price of the 5080 does not matter when the company is at 3.5T , their gaming (Geforce division is bearly 20%). It is a fact of business and they have almost a monopoly.
@@andrei007ps it doesn't mean they should destroyt their general consumer base by pushing themaway. A.I is in a bubble, they still need us to fall back on. i just can't see them pushing the price back up.They're also very competitive, will they risk pushing people towards us AMD. Thats if AMD price aggressively for once with their midrange cards. They could start gaining marketshare if nvidia keep being anti consumer
@@steviewonder0850 if enough people didn’t it would be a problem. That’s what I was implying. Not that my one sale is somehow going to sink Nvidia. You really need to explain literally the most basic subtext on social media.
@@WhiteInk47 people like you aren't even a drop in the ocean for them, selling GPUs to gamers accounts for about 20% of their revenue now, of that probably half is exclusively higher end customers buying their flagship cards (clearly not the market you shop in). They also have 80%+ marketshare for GPUs, they can charge whatever they want and they know it. They are the most valuable company in the world currently, so they'd probably say it was worth it, yes.
@@WhiteInk47 actually correction, it's about 15% now, and their market share for GPUs is now 88% (essentially a monopoly). So yeah, I'm sure they are losing sleep that WhiteInk47 and others like you might not buy a 5070 next year, might even bankrupt them.
I agree with Alex that 1K USD should be the max price. I have a 3080FE and it still performs pretty great in the games I play, so I'm not biting unless I get 4090 or greater performance, 16-20gb of vram, for $999 or less. Sure this is probably a pipe dream, but that's my strike price.
I think the only thing that's certain at this point WRT prices is that Nvidia will try to set them as high as they think they can get away with. I'm not too sure they've "learned their lesson" from the OG 4080's launch and how lackluster sales of that card supposedly were. And even if they did learn - I'm not sure they won't simply try the same thing again with the 5080.
@DF Clips firstly keep up the good reporting! Second I believe it is important gor reviewers like yourselves to keep up with this kind of information, the public needs to let Nvidia know that this crazy pricing has to come down to a reasonable level. If we dont vpice this opinion they will continue on with this behavior unchecked.
Any price over $700 for a GPU is unacceptable no matter how powerful it is. We need good mid range hardware under $400. The GTX 970 was $329 on launch. The 960 was $200. The 750Ti was just $150. The 1660 was under $250. I don't like the 3050 but it's under $250 so that's awesome.
I wonder if a lot of people are going to find that they don't even need to upgrade. I still average over 120 fps on triple A titles in 1440p with my 3080 Ti. I can't really justify buying another GPU.
@@sturmgewehr449AMD was not much better than Nvidia at the start of this generation. The 7900XTX and 7900XT were priced right in line with the overpriced 4080. At least AMD drops prices significantly, so now their cards are at the prices they should’ve been at from the start, but it’s kind of too late. I’m fully expecting AMD to repeat this pattern again.
Months ago I already predicted that 5090 will be going up significantly in price to about 2300 USD and the 5080 releasing with at least a 4080 price despite people saying Nvidia learned from the last release and customer backlash. Why would Nvidia go down with the prices again? There is zero competition and not "wanting to see these prices" won't help. The most annoying part it how they cut down and artificially limit their products to fit certain perfomance tiers. -- The best sign for a broken market.
We live in a era and time period where people are the most vocal and loudest when it comes to speaking their mind on how they don't like the unfair cost of a product, while simultaneously caving in and just throwing their money away with reckless abandon on the product they complained about. Regardless if we're gamers buying games we say we don't want/don't agree with, or buying microtransactions in big budget games that we say we don't want, or buying overpriced, absurdly price inflated hardware that we say costs too much. I've never seen a generation that'll let our necks be stepped on and broken while complaining about it all the while.
Unpopular opinion. What if price was right of 4080 at the beginning to scare off scalpers? I bought 4080 almost at release and I was so mad, but what if.
It's honestly sad that nvidia has successfully managed to brainwash people into thinking that $1,000 is "cheap" for that class of card. Especially this time around when its only going to be a 30% uplift. its closer to what a 5070ti should be. if its over $899 its another easy skip unless the specs are wrong and its closer to a 50% uplift. Still overpriced but less of an insult
People complain but buy anyway. Nvidia's trying to figure out just how much they can charge before demand actually start to go down and they lose revenue.
If it is viable? I mean, are we talking greed or are we talking cost? Sounds a bit like they’re being apologetic. Nvidia would still make a buckload of money if they had kept the 3000 series pricing for the 4000 series. Sony didn’t have to keep the ps5 price as is and they didn’t have to price the ps5 pro at that ridiculous cost without a disc drive and a stand. Nothing is more expensive. That is a lie that has been drilled into consumers minds to make them obedient and complacent. That goes for video game development, that goes for technology development and production and almost every other industry as well. These companies are all having their Apple moments. They are at a place where they have a de facto monopoly or de facto cartel and they have tried and learned that people will pay more. Stop buying overpriced products. But them on sale or used for the price they should have been. I’ve bought a used 3080 10gb for 350$ two years ago. New in 2020 it was worth the 700$ price tag.
@@Aki_LesbrincoXbox sold 2tb Xbox for 600$ US dollars and that's without the 65% more powerful GPU the PS5 pro has + the 2tb. its absolutely not a bad deal in the slightest when You actually know about technology 😅
Yeah I just stopped bs'ing around got me a 4070 ti super, for 1440p it does all I want and by the time the 5080 comes out, ill have been gaming for well over 3 months by then...
I think the 5090 will be my GPU for more than 4 years. The quality of the graphics is already at such a level that it really doesn't need anything else to immerse, maybe except for good textures like in the DLC for space marine 2.
I think the 50 series won't see a massive raw performance uplift, except the 5090. They will showcase DLSS 4 which helps to increase FPS with less power consuming GPU; that's the only way they can keep prices low so consumers can afford. The 5090 on the other hand will see a good uplift in both raw performance and price, so as to establish their market dominance and a way to sell GPUs to China. Remember that chip fabrication has become quite complicated, low yields, high costs. So, they can't simply sell it to you for cheap. This trend will continue till there is a scientific breakthrough in non-silicon space. Till then, only software solutions (like DLSS) will have to do.
Found a 4090, at a really good price, before they sold out. Upgraded from a 2080. Hope the 4090 will keep my PC going, for another 6 years. Remember when we thought the 2080 was expensive? 😅
I just bought a 4060 ti.... Why is this a bad move? I paid $500 Canadian for it...that's like $360 usd. Cheapest 4070 is around $750…and I only game in 1080p.
I was thinking of getting 4070 TI Super for my first PC build but guess I’ll wait to see this 5070 or 5070 TI supposedly dropping February 2025… or I could wait for a 5070 TI Super xD If the performance isn’t large or the pros (probably won’t be) then I’ll just get the 4070 ti super since that’ll be cheaper once 5070 drops
I don't care much about the price of the 5080. I will buy a card if only it brings me 50% more than my current one, for $900 max, whatever the name on the box. And I'll wait till it comes. This makes things a lot less of a concern.
I remember being 15 years old and heading down to pc world armed with 50 quid and with this I was able to buy a card for 45 I think and transform my living room PC into a gaming machine! TF2, Halo 2, runescape those were the days... I'm sorry we ruined PC gaming kids. I guess you got to be rich or working as a child to PC game these days. As a full grown man im at the point where I'm wondering if console is the way with these prices. Im currently rocking a 3080 on a 2k monitor at 144hz and Id like to go 4k 144hz but its going to set me back ( monitor / gfx card / may aswell do CPU and Ram...) about 2k and on top of that my keyboard mouse and headset could use an upgrade! how am I going to sneak 3k past the misses when she is still recovering from the price I paid for a 3080 during the covid price gouging madness.
Well, since AMD isn’t going to be playing in the deep end this gen, it shouldn’t be surprising if the 5080/90 is way more expensive. There is not competition for the to do otherwise.
I mean if it's between the performance of a 4080 and 4090, why wouldn't they charge more? No one seems to get that there's no competition - where's AMD's 80 class competitor? The 8800XT or whatever name they call it (eg 8900XTX for example and be identical to the 7900XTX), will be a 5070/5070ti competitor, so there's nothing there from AMD so Nvidia can charge whatever they want, it's in a league of it's own, just like the 4090 is now and just like the 5090 will be. Demand competition.
you say the 5080 will be in a league of its own like the 4090, i say it will be in no mans land. the 5090 will make it look weak, why would anyone pay so much for a much weaker card? its in an awkward spot. The also have the 4090 on the second hand market to contend with when people started selling them off. If they charge above $999 it will review and sell poorly just like the 4080, and the 4080 at least had a good 50% uplift. The 5080 looks to be only 25-30% uplift at best. Good luck to nvidia if thats what the put out and its priced unreasonably high. those specs are what the 5070ti should have been. It should be priced at $899 imo. I hope people wisen up this time around, i think pricing it too high will open peoples eyes to the reality of what nvidia taking full advantage of people's ignorance
@@PCgamingbenchmarktime Overall I don't disagree with your points, just to be clear, I mean to say that if the 5080 outperforms the 4080 - it will be in a class of it's own (not necessarily at the top of all cards, like the 5090) as there will be no product from AMD to compete with it, that's all I meant. Therefore, Nvidia could charge whatever they see fit, maybe current 4090 prices or just under, there's no reason to assume it'll be 'only' $999. Remember, the 4080 is right next to the 7900XTX, sure it's worth a little more, but it wasn't worth 20% more, identical raster performance that's why it reviewed poorly. 5080 will have uncontested raster performance, if, it's say between a 4080 and 4090.
@conza1989 it will be contested by the 4090 on the second hand market. Lol when they flood the second hand market when the new cards come out I'm fairly sure they'll drop to around $1,000. Similar performance but an extra 8gb of vram. Pretty easy choice, nvidia also has common sense to contend with lol the 4080 sold poorly because it didn't make sense at that price, neither will a 5080. 4090 is already overkill for most people. A lot of people are still gaming at 1080p and 1440p, the demand just isn't as high anymore unless playing at 4k. Its going to be a tough sell if they price it too high, good luck to them. The specs alone have already put me off buying it, it would have to be below $899 to be interesting imo. And I highly doubt they'll go that far back. Better off buying a second hand 4080 when they drop in price and wait for the super refresh when they correct the specs/pricing when they don't sell well enough
They can charge more all they want. 4080 sold poorly and so will the 5080. The performance gap between the 80 and 90 class cards have gotten too big to justify such poor pricing for a gimped card that should actually be a 70 class card. If the leaks are correct AMD will be offering a 8800XT(their top sku for next gen) for around $600 with comparable performance to the 4080 is both raster and raytracing. They should have launched it this year, but there's still too much supply of high end 7000 series.
@@CassetteMelody yuck, If AMD price their 8800 XT above $499 than they've failed once again. Good luck going up again the 5070 at $599. Doesn't matter if the 8800 XT is slightly faster with more Vram, It will be another repeat of what happened this generation. at $499 it stands a small chance if they launch it along side FSR 4. It will be hilarious if they botch another easy win lol
Do people also rage about iPhone prices? iPhone 16 Pro starts at USD999 and 16 Pro Max starts at USD1199. Everything is through the roof these days and people keep buying.
if the 5080 had 20gb vram or more then 16gb id be annoyed but can just justify 1200 bucks but if it has 16gb i just cant pay that much as i game at 4k and some games are already at 15gb vram usage
Nvidia GPUs being overpriced doesn't mean PS5 Pro isn't overpriced. A $1k GPU is probably still a couple of times more powerful than the GPU in the Pro
Anything above $1,000 is absurd for 5080 but I would be keen to know price to performance ratio, until then it’s just a no. I am on 3060ti and I was part of the time where I paid 2x the price to scalpers ( I had to buy something because the bullshit razer blade died on me suddenly with no way to RMA it). 3060ti works well but I feel really robbed of having that 4k experience with RT. Do you guys think I should upgrade GPU or hold on to my card a little longer?
I'll beleve a $3000+ gpu still won't have ShadowPlay on Linux still... I'm still waiting for that, lol.... even with having more gamers than on Mac at this point...
So it seems like the theme between the PlayStation 5 Pro and this is that any concrete form of leap in graphics is going to be expensive AF to the point where it makes the PlayStation 3 look like the budgeted option even after adjusting for inflation. If Nintendo can price something that's as good as it's a leap for $399 or hell even under I think they're going to steal this entire generation outside of potentially the next Valve Steam Deck.
Nvidia is testing the water: they want to see our reaction to decide the final price, so i suggest everyone to be upset so it's gonna be priced way lower than in these rumors.
The prices are outrageous. Will some people buy these gpus? Sure. Will less people buy very expensive gpus? Sure. Does nvidia care? No. So those of us who dont have a 1000 bucks for a new gpu lying around are just screwed.
Gamers don’t matter, they know the AI scum will buy anything Nvidia sells. Some people who work in 3D and similar fields will also have no choice but to pay since it is for work. They always win
it's not even the price in itself. The issue is there is no real perception of value in terms of performance at price point, you can blame developers, publishers, UE5 or whatever else, but the issue is there. i have a 4070ti, and i'm at most ok with it, not happy with it. not happy to have spent around 1100 euro to then use dlss or FG as a crutch because that 1100 euro investment is not giving me an easy time with CURRENT AAA titles.
Problem is are players going to be capable of doing what we're supposed to vote with your wallet , if you gotta pay stupid prices just to get a few extra frames don't accept it let them realise they taking the piss Just remember it will only be a year till 60 series cards you pay now they only gonna think push prices even further again
And yet you pay less than the minimum salary in the us for a fantastc video card. Here in Brazil it costs a motorcycle. The biggest reason reason why people go for video games.
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Nvidia: Of course, those price leaks are fake! You wouldn't expect us to sell our cutting-edge 5000 series cards THAT cheap, would you?
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accurate as fuck
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Thing is… it does not matter. Even if the 5080 would be just 800 Dollars… it would still be overpriced for what you get. An 50% Cutdown 5090. So like… even if we assume the 4090 Price was fair, it would still be 50% of that… ignoring an 5080 will have to use less Components around it to support it too. It’s Even then, 800 would still be to Expensive. And no Way it will be not 1200 when it’s around an 4090 that costs 1800+ right now. I mean, what’s the Alternative…. AMD? Where we know they won’t have something that’s better than their last Gen Highend? So they will have only at max something around an RTX 4080 (bit weaker) but maybe better in RT… compared to an RTX 5080 that’s around but not weaker than an 4090. I just don’t see ppl buying AMD in this Case. Maybe compared to an RTX 5070 and AMDs Highend. Sure. An RTX 5070 for 700 vs an RX 8700 XT for 600 might favor AMD.
Of Course I don’t know those Prices. I doubt AMD will go below 500 though and NVidia could easily go with 600 too. Just some Numbers that could happen.
i had a seizure reading all this thanks@@flimermithrandir
Whatever nvidia ends up doing, remember that 1) influencers are looking to farm YOUR outrage for clicks. Your outrage costs you inner peace and makes influencers $. and 2) You don't have to buy whatever overpriced toys these companies put out, your happiness is not dependent on fps, ray tracing, vram, or any thing else they try to hook you with.
@@Healthy_Toki actually amazing comment good job bro 👍
@@akathenugget Thanks dude, have a great weekend
@@Healthy_Toki you too
But like...
While some channels definitely try to take advantage of the outrage to farm views, it’s also important to keep in mind that not all strongly negative coverage is rage bait. The folks at HardwareUnboxed have said that they get more viewership whenever new releases are priced well because that generates more interest in people.
What I’m trying to get across is don’t let yourselves be taken advantage of for views, but also don’t dismiss the well-intentioned and valid criticisms of reputable outlets as rage bait.
Well it sure as hell isnt gonna be affordable
Nope
They are clearly affordable if people buy them lol
@@akilbaptiste6942that's not what the term means
@@kirby21-xz4rx lol but that’s exactly what it means if it wasn’t “affordable” most people wouldn’t be able to buy it and they’d never sell the real issues is people want it to be cheaper and there is nothing wrong with that
@@akilbaptiste6942 Last generation Porsche GT3 was around $200k USD and it was sold out almost immediately. Do you think that was affordable too just by virtue of it selling out?
They will overprice the 5080 so everyone has to buy the 12gb 5070 and then be forced to upgrade to a 16gb+ card in a year.
Not if people play in 1440p, 12gb will be ok for some time, still a shame that its not more for the scalper like prices they take for every GPU.
Just buy 7900GRE and call it a day lol
@@EvilijoUKsame family running the same monopoly quit buying any of it and watch how quick the market fixes itself
@@EvilijoUK wait till 8800xt
That's why you buy 5090 and keep it for 6 years.
I was planning to buy 5080 but 1399$ with only 16GB!? 16GB is outrageous 😳
At this point it’s so obvious they are just undercutting vram so you need to keep upgrading. 7900 xtx with 24 gb is just awesome.
Yeah if 16gb in 5080 I better buy 7900 or something else on sales 😂
Oh that's rough. I paid 1000$ CAD for my 4080. Won't pay more for a 5080.
I dont think 0:00 its gonna push over 1.2k$ for the 5080 as what i think
I just can't pay 900 USD for 5070 wich uses chips with sizes from XX60 series, it should cost around 350 USD nowadays
There will be plenty of good options on the last gen and used market. None of this is a need unless ur a creative which I'm assuming you're not otherwise you'd be eyeing a quadro or 4090/5090.
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$350 graphic card… that is so last century!
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Nvidia has a monopoly essentially and is 3.5 trillion. They can charge almost whatever they want
Exactly, I don't know why some people belive a product should be at the price they have in mind. Any company with a monopoly based on pure competition (being better at it) can price them as high as the market alows.
Of course.
Nvidia will also overprice:
- 5090
- 5070
- 5060
etc.
I fear that when the 50 series comes out the play5pro will seem like a budget choice
That's exactly what I said when PS5 Pro was revealed
We'll see what it compares to performance wise. Obviously not the high end PC cards, maybe the RTX 5060 Ti and RX 8070 or a bit lower.
The budget choice already exists and its not a mid range pc like console.
Ps5 pro equivalent PC hardware is budget hardware today.
What I don't get is how people keep buying this stuff and for how long can they possibly get away with it? Surely there's a Gaussian curve where people simply won't be able to afford this stuff for gaming anymore?
I have a pc with rtx4080 and 13700k plus an Series x. I think i dont buy a pc Next time and Play only on console. I Hope Xbox dont give up the console market.
@@kunalshrivastava6398 they can profit more from rich gamers, mid and low are dead meaning pc gaming is more or less rich gamers territory now. Forget low and mid range gpus, overpriced paperweights
it's the prebuilts
They'll price people out of owning the hardware and move towards cloud gaming.
$1500 for a graphics card every 2 years really isn't that bad
Unless it comes with 24GB of Vram, I won't be touching it.
Sure has been a rough couple years for the dedicated GPU world.
Doesn’t help that Nvidia has no competition in the mid/high to high end market and now with AMD essentially bowing out of high end discreet GPUs it’s essentially an Nvidia only segment of the GPU market now.
@@Myke-Myke-Myke AMD is the best price/perf for mid range and lower. People just prefer Nvidia.
@@D4C_LoveTrain1 the cheapest rx 7800xt i found is 500€ in our country. And regarding game demanfs going throught the roof i would need to shove out 1000eur for 7900xtx. Value my ass
@@Myke-Myke-Myke Mid range from AMD is poor value? 7800XT and 7900GRE - especially when on flash sales offer fantastic value and come with 16GB of VRAM
People need to stop buying cards from either company but especially nvidia new, just buy used, ebay has excellent buyer protection and if you're in person ask to see it working first. It's not like the card vendors are good about honoring their warranties anyways
The problem with this is that if everybody only bought the old cards, they wouldn't really drop in price. We need people buying new generation cards every time so the price of last gen decreases.
Nothing would change if people did that
If everyone did this then there wouldn't be any used cards in the market, since no one bought them new in the first place.
It doesn't work that way
Where are all the used cards gonna come from, when everyone buys new? You ever thought about that?
Also 450€ for a used 3080 seems like a rip off not a deal.
What is even worse is that giant gap with the 5090 spec. That 5080 spec is what should be called a 5070.
They've done this a few times in the past. It gives them potential to release products in between and basically artificially create in-between tiers for something that shouldn't be.
5090 is titan so don't cry
In all seriousness, will there be any direct competition for the RTX 5090 when it comes out and if it was cheap would anyone bother with an AMD or Intel card?
I expect 999$. The 4080 sold poorly and the 4080S sold out. Economy is slowing down too, I doubt they’ll be so bold.
If AMD wont make any card that can fight against 5080 then i think they can be bold.
PS5Pro copy of PS5 is the most expensive console EVER, and they get away with it 😅
@@RazielDeTam if you adjust for inflation, the PS five pro is not even close to the most expensive console ever
@@MechAdv if you adjust for inflation, PS5Pro is costing a house in LA 20 yers ago
Keep the pricing scheme like this, it won't be long until people really can't afford buying high end gpu 😂
already happened
You’d be surprised how many people have money out there
@@sk8ermGsexactly. So many people are in their 'rest of the world is poor like me' bubble. But I know 40 people well enough (netherlands), which is all my friends and family who can easily afford this and none of them are making millions.
I've already sold my 4090 (for exactly how much I bought it for 2 years ago) in anticipation of the 5090.
I sold my xtx for the same reason. Lets see.
Salam akhi please tell me more 😂 I’d definitely get the 5090 if its that easy to sell and upgrade. Never owned a pc only console
I cancelled my RTX 4080S order and am hoping 5080 won't be a rip off. I hope I didn't make a mistake!
I have a 1660 and dont know if I should get the 4080 super or 5080 but if the price of the 5080 isnt reasonable with the same vram as the 4080 super then il go with the 4080 super
This is honestly what turned me from pc gaming to console gaming.. the very best pc hardware is insanely expensive and the want to upgrade of every couple years is real because lack of optimizations .. console even tho they lack same power, most of the games are well optimized and get the most of the power and I don’t know why- but 30 fps on console always feels more consistent then on PC.. same with 60 fps.. if done right on console it just feels much more consistently smooth where as PC I’m always feeling some sort of hiccups and whatnot. I honestly can’t wait to trade in my ps5 for a Pro.
Why are you lying, I don't know any pc gamer that upgrades every two years.
30 fps is bad, and it doesn't feel good on console, it's still bad. Consoles have no hardware to run games properly.
PS5 Pro for 800 euro without a disc drive is a great value. as great as Nvidia GPUs, yes.
@@IAmBetterThanIWasYesterday I meant for me.. and also the feeling of needing to because games on pc are rarely optimized and just meant to be brute forced with the best hardware
@@stanislavkimov2779 disc drive is personal preference. I got a ps5 disc but rarely if ever use it. To me, physical discs is clutter and needing to change it every time I want to switch, I prefer digital. But everyone’s different and no one opinion should be held on a pedestal
Same, bro
Alex when Ps5 pro announced, "well that's just the price, no one forcing you to buy it".
When 5080 comes out with eye watering prices, "well i don't think that's fair"
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For 4060 Ti, there were probably a lot of people who bought it used. I also saw them in a lot of prebuilds, that might have helped too.
How the fuck in 4 years did we go from $700 80 series, to almost double that
Twice the price, more or less twice the perf. Performance/price ratio does not move anymore.
The majority of popular titles run fine on a 4060i. You don't need to buy a 5080.
Either way next gpu I gets gonna be 16gb
maybe i will be able to afford it if i can eat the box it comes in for the 8 or 9 weeks worth of meals 🤔
Regardless of memes, Nvidia indirectly admitted that 1199$ for 4080 was not a good idea and set 4080 Super's price tag to 999$. Based on the history, I think 5080 could be 999~1099$
The 4080 is actually still being sold at $1199 and they are selling like hot cakes.
Lol 4080 super for 999$?Where man? 😂 Its still 1200$.What do you think?The 5080 will be cheaper?People still buying that overpriced craps for that price..........
@@markterek6232on pc partpicker??? Which just shows current prices on different models and theres like 6 or 7 4080 supers for 989-1029.
@@ultimategohan1551Yep, it's simular story on Newegg with quite a few 4080 Supers around it's $1,000 MSRP. As for the plain 4080's they have been slowly fazed out over the past few months and have been steadily replaced by 4080 Super's, instead. Production of the 4080 has slowed considerably and is very soon to be discontinued altogether alongside the 4090. It's being done in order to make way for the 50 series GPU's.
So 4080's have been very thin on the ground for the past few months and have mostly been out of stock. However, you still can often see them listed on some retail sites, at thier old prices.
@@ultimategohan1551internet trolls look at the price for Asus Strix cards and then just pretend thats the price for all of them.
5090 $1799 MSRP, 5080 $1199 MSRP
I'm not happy about it, but I agree with your assessment.
5090 will be 2K USD minimum
the 5080 will flop hard above $999. The specs are less than what we normally would get. lucky if we even get a 30% uplift. who is going to buy this ? not enough of an upgrade from the 4080, people that didnt buy the 4080 because of the absurd price increase will steer clear of this again. Will nvidia really be stupid enough to price it that high when the 4080 failed at that price. Seems very unlikely
@@PCgamingbenchmarktimeI get your point, but the price of the 5080 does not matter when the company is at 3.5T , their gaming (Geforce division is bearly 20%). It is a fact of business and they have almost a monopoly.
@@andrei007ps it doesn't mean they should destroyt their general consumer base by pushing themaway. A.I is in a bubble, they still need us to fall back on. i just can't see them pushing the price back up.They're also very competitive, will they risk pushing people towards us AMD. Thats if AMD price aggressively for once with their midrange cards. They could start gaining marketshare if nvidia keep being anti consumer
Nvidia is more or less probably going to price me out of continuing to be a customer with them.
Hope it was worth it.
They are worth $3.39 trillion now, so I'd wager they probably aren't too bothered if you can't afford one of their new GPUs tbh
@@steviewonder0850 if enough people didn’t it would be a problem. That’s what I was implying. Not that my one sale is somehow going to sink Nvidia.
You really need to explain literally the most basic subtext on social media.
@@WhiteInk47 people like you aren't even a drop in the ocean for them, selling GPUs to gamers accounts for about 20% of their revenue now, of that probably half is exclusively higher end customers buying their flagship cards (clearly not the market you shop in). They also have 80%+ marketshare for GPUs, they can charge whatever they want and they know it.
They are the most valuable company in the world currently, so they'd probably say it was worth it, yes.
@@steviewonder0850 oh yeah 20% sure sounds like nothing. You can probably barely see one fifth of the company’s profits with a microscope
@@WhiteInk47 actually correction, it's about 15% now, and their market share for GPUs is now 88% (essentially a monopoly).
So yeah, I'm sure they are losing sleep that WhiteInk47 and others like you might not buy a 5070 next year, might even bankrupt them.
I agree with Alex that 1K USD should be the max price. I have a 3080FE and it still performs pretty great in the games I play, so I'm not biting unless I get 4090 or greater performance, 16-20gb of vram, for $999 or less. Sure this is probably a pipe dream, but that's my strike price.
If its the same price without an improvement to performance, then its just slotting into the existing product stack... it's not an upgrade.
I think the only thing that's certain at this point WRT prices is that Nvidia will try to set them as high as they think they can get away with. I'm not too sure they've "learned their lesson" from the OG 4080's launch and how lackluster sales of that card supposedly were. And even if they did learn - I'm not sure they won't simply try the same thing again with the 5080.
It will most likely be priced at $699 to match its performance competitor The PS5 Pro right?
@DF Clips firstly keep up the good reporting! Second I believe it is important gor reviewers like yourselves to keep up with this kind of information, the public needs to let Nvidia know that this crazy pricing has to come down to a reasonable level. If we dont vpice this opinion they will continue on with this behavior unchecked.
Any price over $700 for a GPU is unacceptable no matter how powerful it is. We need good mid range hardware under $400. The GTX 970 was $329 on launch. The 960 was $200. The 750Ti was just $150. The 1660 was under $250. I don't like the 3050 but it's under $250 so that's awesome.
I wonder if a lot of people are going to find that they don't even need to upgrade. I still average over 120 fps on triple A titles in 1440p with my 3080 Ti. I can't really justify buying another GPU.
yes
I have 4060ti. Been fooled, lesson learned.
pay for your sins (buy amd)
I have the normal 4060. Tbf is was my first prebuilt and I still didn't know too much at the time like I do now 😅😭
@@sturmgewehr449AMD was not much better than Nvidia at the start of this generation. The 7900XTX and 7900XT were priced right in line with the overpriced 4080. At least AMD drops prices significantly, so now their cards are at the prices they should’ve been at from the start, but it’s kind of too late. I’m fully expecting AMD to repeat this pattern again.
@@sturmgewehr449 Has this poor man not suffered enough?
I also have a 4060ti. I’m gonna sell it for like 300 and use that to pay off a 5070
Months ago I already predicted that 5090 will be going up significantly in price to about 2300 USD and the 5080 releasing with at least a 4080 price despite people saying Nvidia learned from the last release and customer backlash.
Why would Nvidia go down with the prices again? There is zero competition and not "wanting to see these prices" won't help.
The most annoying part it how they cut down and artificially limit their products to fit certain perfomance tiers. -- The best sign for a broken market.
I'm glad Rich fixed the lighting in his setup. That ring light in his face was a bit distracting.
We live in a era and time period where people are the most vocal and loudest when it comes to speaking their mind on how they don't like the unfair cost of a product, while simultaneously caving in and just throwing their money away with reckless abandon on the product they complained about.
Regardless if we're gamers buying games we say we don't want/don't agree with, or buying microtransactions in big budget games that we say we don't want, or buying overpriced, absurdly price inflated hardware that we say costs too much.
I've never seen a generation that'll let our necks be stepped on and broken while complaining about it all the while.
Unpopular opinion. What if price was right of 4080 at the beginning to scare off scalpers?
I bought 4080 almost at release and I was so mad, but what if.
1k? Holy cope. Not a chance it's going to be that cheap. The rumored prices are way more likely.
It's honestly sad that nvidia has successfully managed to brainwash people into thinking that $1,000 is "cheap" for that class of card. Especially this time around when its only going to be a 30% uplift. its closer to what a 5070ti should be. if its over $899 its another easy skip unless the specs are wrong and its closer to a 50% uplift. Still overpriced but less of an insult
That rumoured prices are 100% wrong. When Nvidia announces the official RTX 5080 price it will be be between $999 USD to $1099 usd.
@@white5866 bro I hope,I have a 1660
Of course the rumors are true, who is their competition? They can charge whatever they want.
Nah it's definitely not true, the RTX 5080 will be officially announced at a price between $999 USD to $1099 USD. Mark my words.
People complain but buy anyway. Nvidia's trying to figure out just how much they can charge before demand actually start to go down and they lose revenue.
If it is viable?
I mean, are we talking greed or are we talking cost?
Sounds a bit like they’re being apologetic.
Nvidia would still make a buckload of money if they had kept the 3000 series pricing for the 4000 series.
Sony didn’t have to keep the ps5 price as is and they didn’t have to price the ps5 pro at that ridiculous cost without a disc drive and a stand.
Nothing is more expensive.
That is a lie that has been drilled into consumers minds to make them obedient and complacent.
That goes for video game development, that goes for technology development and production and almost every other industry as well.
These companies are all having their Apple moments. They are at a place where they have a de facto monopoly or de facto cartel and they have tried and learned that people will pay more.
Stop buying overpriced products.
But them on sale or used for the price they should have been.
I’ve bought a used 3080 10gb for 350$ two years ago. New in 2020 it was worth the 700$ price tag.
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@@Lock2002ful bravo...at least that was a proper price for 3080. Great catch
Im just going to hold out until i can't use my 3070 anymore. The xx70 cards are honestly perfectly adequate
i have a 3070 as well and im doing the exact same until games like wukong become standard im not upgrading. Games sell gpu's for me nothing else
Get comfortable with 1080p
PS5 Pro price tag is going to look really nice after these come out lol
I think the Pro's price will still look pretty bad regardless of Nvidia's 5000 pricing.
@@Aki_Lesbrinco$250 for twice as capable SSD and twice better performance is not a great deal?
@@Aki_LesbrincoXbox sold 2tb Xbox for 600$ US dollars and that's without the 65% more powerful GPU the PS5 pro has + the 2tb.
its absolutely not a bad deal in the slightest when You actually know about technology 😅
@@alexl7265PS5 has no games though, unless you just want to replay PS4 games
they saw how well the 4090 sold so of course they have to sell the higher performance replacement at a near similar price
I think because amd didn't come out the gate with disruptive pricing it added to nvidia cards being attractive cause of their added features
Yeah I just stopped bs'ing around got me a 4070 ti super, for 1440p it does all I want and by the time the 5080 comes out, ill have been gaming for well over 3 months by then...
Hope so, will help 4000 series hold 2nd hand value
Amazing video, thank you Digital Foundry.
I think the 5090 will be my GPU for more than 4 years. The quality of the graphics is already at such a level that it really doesn't need anything else to immerse, maybe except for good textures like in the DLC for space marine 2.
The texture pack that takes more space than the actual game.
@@jose131991 who cares if the effect is great
If the ４０８０ was 50% BETTER THAN the ３０８０ for 70% of the price…
Then the ５０８０ shou!d follow the same suit? Thatd make it a 2K card practically
I think the 50 series won't see a massive raw performance uplift, except the 5090. They will showcase DLSS 4 which helps to increase FPS with less power consuming GPU; that's the only way they can keep prices low so consumers can afford. The 5090 on the other hand will see a good uplift in both raw performance and price, so as to establish their market dominance and a way to sell GPUs to China.
Remember that chip fabrication has become quite complicated, low yields, high costs. So, they can't simply sell it to you for cheap. This trend will continue till there is a scientific breakthrough in non-silicon space. Till then, only software solutions (like DLSS) will have to do.
Found a 4090, at a really good price, before they sold out. Upgraded from a 2080. Hope the 4090 will keep my PC going, for another 6 years. Remember when we thought the 2080 was expensive? 😅
I just bought a 4060 ti.... Why is this a bad move?
I paid $500 Canadian for it...that's like $360 usd. Cheapest 4070 is around $750…and I only game in 1080p.
5070- 12GB GDDR7-$799
5080-16GB GDDR7- $1299
5080ti- 24GB GDDR7- $1799
5090- 32GB GDDR7- $2499
Thats my prediction and I'm praying I'm wrong
If that's true then the 5060 will be $600 MSRP or $800 in stores since MSRP doesn't count for anything for half a decade now.
id really like to upgrade my 1070. bunch of new games id like to try. something decent with 16gb vram.
I was thinking of getting 4070 TI Super for my first PC build but guess I’ll wait to see this 5070 or 5070 TI supposedly dropping February 2025… or I could wait for a 5070 TI Super xD
If the performance isn’t large or the pros (probably won’t be) then I’ll just get the 4070 ti super since that’ll be cheaper once 5070 drops
Gonna just run by 4070ti Super to the ground before I upgrade. Got a huge backlog of older games anyway
I don't care much about the price of the 5080.
I will buy a card if only it brings me 50% more than my current one, for $900 max, whatever the name on the box.
And I'll wait till it comes.
This makes things a lot less of a concern.
I remember being 15 years old and heading down to pc world armed with 50 quid and with this I was able to buy a card for 45 I think and transform my living room PC into a gaming machine! TF2, Halo 2, runescape those were the days... I'm sorry we ruined PC gaming kids. I guess you got to be rich or working as a child to PC game these days. As a full grown man im at the point where I'm wondering if console is the way with these prices. Im currently rocking a 3080 on a 2k monitor at 144hz and Id like to go 4k 144hz but its going to set me back ( monitor / gfx card / may aswell do CPU and Ram...) about 2k and on top of that my keyboard mouse and headset could use an upgrade! how am I going to sneak 3k past the misses when she is still recovering from the price I paid for a 3080 during the covid price gouging madness.
No competition means they have less to fear when it comes to pricing their products.
Well, since AMD isn’t going to be playing in the deep end this gen, it shouldn’t be surprising if the 5080/90 is way more expensive. There is not competition for the to do otherwise.
They spread rumors with insane prices, lower it by 100-200 bucks and are heroes. :)
Yeah... I will ride my 4070 Super till the wheels fall off!
I think 5080 will be 1199 dollars just when 4080 launched. Then later, might get reduced to 999 and 5080 Ti or SUPER comes out
I mean if it's between the performance of a 4080 and 4090, why wouldn't they charge more? No one seems to get that there's no competition - where's AMD's 80 class competitor? The 8800XT or whatever name they call it (eg 8900XTX for example and be identical to the 7900XTX), will be a 5070/5070ti competitor, so there's nothing there from AMD so Nvidia can charge whatever they want, it's in a league of it's own, just like the 4090 is now and just like the 5090 will be. Demand competition.
you say the 5080 will be in a league of its own like the 4090, i say it will be in no mans land. the 5090 will make it look weak, why would anyone pay so much for a much weaker card? its in an awkward spot. The also have the 4090 on the second hand market to contend with when people started selling them off. If they charge above $999 it will review and sell poorly just like the 4080, and the 4080 at least had a good 50% uplift. The 5080 looks to be only 25-30% uplift at best. Good luck to nvidia if thats what the put out and its priced unreasonably high. those specs are what the 5070ti should have been. It should be priced at $899 imo. I hope people wisen up this time around, i think pricing it too high will open peoples eyes to the reality of what nvidia taking full advantage of people's ignorance
@@PCgamingbenchmarktime Overall I don't disagree with your points, just to be clear, I mean to say that if the 5080 outperforms the 4080 - it will be in a class of it's own (not necessarily at the top of all cards, like the 5090) as there will be no product from AMD to compete with it, that's all I meant. Therefore, Nvidia could charge whatever they see fit, maybe current 4090 prices or just under, there's no reason to assume it'll be 'only' $999. Remember, the 4080 is right next to the 7900XTX, sure it's worth a little more, but it wasn't worth 20% more, identical raster performance that's why it reviewed poorly. 5080 will have uncontested raster performance, if, it's say between a 4080 and 4090.
@conza1989 it will be contested by the 4090 on the second hand market. Lol when they flood the second hand market when the new cards come out I'm fairly sure they'll drop to around $1,000. Similar performance but an extra 8gb of vram. Pretty easy choice, nvidia also has common sense to contend with lol the 4080 sold poorly because it didn't make sense at that price, neither will a 5080. 4090 is already overkill for most people. A lot of people are still gaming at 1080p and 1440p, the demand just isn't as high anymore unless playing at 4k. Its going to be a tough sell if they price it too high, good luck to them. The specs alone have already put me off buying it, it would have to be below $899 to be interesting imo. And I highly doubt they'll go that far back. Better off buying a second hand 4080 when they drop in price and wait for the super refresh when they correct the specs/pricing when they don't sell well enough
They can charge more all they want.
4080 sold poorly and so will the 5080. The performance gap between the 80 and 90 class cards have gotten too big to justify such poor pricing for a gimped card that should actually be a 70 class card.
If the leaks are correct AMD will be offering a 8800XT(their top sku for next gen) for around $600 with comparable performance to the 4080 is both raster and raytracing.
They should have launched it this year, but there's still too much supply of high end 7000 series.
@@CassetteMelody yuck, If AMD price their 8800 XT above $499 than they've failed once again. Good luck going up again the 5070 at $599. Doesn't matter if the 8800 XT is slightly faster with more Vram, It will be another repeat of what happened this generation. at $499 it stands a small chance if they launch it along side FSR 4. It will be hilarious if they botch another easy win lol
They should call it RTX 4090 Pro
Pro and it does have 16 GB of VRAM instead of 24? Nah mate.
5080 is 10 percent faster than the 4090, just like the 4080 blew away the 3090
4090 ti
I’ll wait for the Pro Pro
Oh christ, i’m gonna roll in money when my 4090 is gonna be discontinued and 5080/5090 prices will be completely f*cked and I decide to sell my 4090 😍
It's already been done.
I've been hoping for a decent card to replace my cheap fanless one.
Do people also rage about iPhone prices? iPhone 16 Pro starts at USD999 and 16 Pro Max starts at USD1199. Everything is through the roof these days and people keep buying.
Yeah, they "leak" a hideous price tag then launch the card $500 less, and all the sycophants and fanbois be like "aw, that's pretty good value, dude"
I bet it'll be 1400€. Amd has nothing to compete.
if the 5080 had 20gb vram or more then 16gb id be annoyed but can just justify 1200 bucks but if it has 16gb i just cant pay that much as i game at 4k and some games are already at 15gb vram usage
And people clown on the PS5 Pro being $700 when potentially you’ll have to spend $1k+ for just a single component and deal with broken PC ports
Nvidia GPUs being overpriced doesn't mean PS5 Pro isn't overpriced. A $1k GPU is probably still a couple of times more powerful than the GPU in the Pro
@@Aki_LesbrincoPS5 Pro is not overpriced as much 😂
It's still overpriced fam 💀
Fr 😂
@@Aki_Lesbrincothat's one component alone so thats not even a real argument at all like they said that's just one component of the pc
Anything above $1,000 is absurd for 5080 but I would be keen to know price to performance ratio, until then it’s just a no.
I am on 3060ti and I was part of the time where I paid 2x the price to scalpers ( I had to buy something because the bullshit razer blade died on me suddenly with no way to RMA it).
3060ti works well but I feel really robbed of having that 4k experience with RT. Do you guys think I should upgrade GPU or hold on to my card a little longer?
Get a ps5 pro and keep the extra 400$
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I have a 3070 and I’m considering getting a 4080 super for a lower price after 5000 series launches. $1200+ for an 80 class card is ridiculous
@@donaquiles495 already got a ps5 slim few months back for $100. 🤣 so maybe I shouldn’t upgrade it pro
@@GolfWhisky 4080S seems to be acceptable by many but 40 series was doomed from the time (and before) when they unlaunched that 4080 12 GB card.
I'm perfectly happy with my PS5, and I'm getting a PS5 Pro 😊
Nvidia is the reason video games is so expensive.
just PC, consoles still cheap
And looks so good also :}
@@SkeltherBot hahahhahaha they dont games are made for consoles unless you are talking about ray tracing kiddo
@@diegofuentes425yup 😅
on PC.
Im investing in NVIDIA stocks now instead of buying their GPUs..
I'll beleve a $3000+ gpu still won't have ShadowPlay on Linux still... I'm still waiting for that, lol.... even with having more gamers than on Mac at this point...
So it seems like the theme between the PlayStation 5 Pro and this is that any concrete form of leap in graphics is going to be expensive AF to the point where it makes the PlayStation 3 look like the budgeted option even after adjusting for inflation. If Nintendo can price something that's as good as it's a leap for $399 or hell even under I think they're going to steal this entire generation outside of potentially the next Valve Steam Deck.
Current NM process size yehhh errrr we are reaching peak so yeh expect a large bill
RTX 5080 is just a rename RTX 5070, they learned their lesson this time and "Unlaunch" the real RTX 5080.
Nvidia is testing the water: they want to see our reaction to decide the final price, so i suggest everyone to be upset so it's gonna be priced way lower than in these rumors.
The prices are outrageous. Will some people buy these gpus? Sure. Will less people buy very expensive gpus? Sure. Does nvidia care? No. So those of us who dont have a 1000 bucks for a new gpu lying around are just screwed.
I should have bought the 4090 when it was $1600 1 year ago
2:14 Heath Ledger Joker if he was a Nvidia fanboy
Gamers don’t matter, they know the AI scum will buy anything Nvidia sells. Some people who work in 3D and similar fields will also have no choice but to pay since it is for work. They always win
AI scum? Waaaat? 😂
@@alexl7265ai is the new crypto boom
I got a 4060TI cheaper then a 4060 or 3060 so it was a no brainer..
it's not even the price in itself.
The issue is there is no real perception of value in terms of performance at price point, you can blame developers, publishers, UE5 or whatever else, but the issue is there.
i have a 4070ti, and i'm at most ok with it, not happy with it. not happy to have spent around 1100 euro to then use dlss or FG as a crutch because that 1100 euro investment is not giving me an easy time with CURRENT AAA titles.
Problem is are players going to be capable of doing what we're supposed to vote with your wallet , if you gotta pay stupid prices just to get a few extra frames don't accept it let them realise they taking the piss
Just remember it will only be a year till 60 series cards you pay now they only gonna think push prices even further again
They can price the heck out of the 5090 I don't care, but please leave something for those of us that can't afford to spend a grand or two on a GPU.
@@SpookySkeletonGang you will get a 5060 with 4060ti performance with 8gb of vram for $700...take it or leave it
@@roklaca3138sounds exactly like Nvidia 😂
And yet you pay less than the minimum salary in the us for a fantastc video card. Here in Brazil it costs a motorcycle. The biggest reason reason why people go for video games.
Anything below 1400 usd is unacceptable by Nvidia. 😅
One of the many reasons I’ll stick with consoles.
Yes! Yes they will.